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Afghanistan, Huntsman & More * Open Thread

I’m posting videos of Sen. Joe Manchin and Jon Huntsman because their comments on Afghanistan tie in neatly with Larry Johnson’s post below, “Afghanistan Turning Point.” First, some quotes from interviews on Morning Joe, which focused on Afghanistan because of Obama’s address to the nation tonight. We’ll put up an open thread for Obama’s speech, but does anyone think that he won’t take the easy, safe route of a minimalist removal of troops regardless of the enormous drain on the U.S.’s economy and military?

Here’s Joe Scarborough’s amusing but telling remark that criticized McCain’s overly interventionist views in his attack on Sen. Joe Manchin:
        ”John McCain has more staff members working for him in the Senate than there are members of Al Qaeda left in Afghanistan.”

Joe asks guest Jon Huntsman about Sen. Joe Manchin’s statement that his constituents want to know why the U.S. is wasting our resources in Afghanistan so that the Chinese can come in and “mine billions and billions of dollars in minerals.” Huntsman replies:
        ”Joe [Manchin] is speaking sensibly. … Here’s the reality. China loves and hates the fact that we’re in Afghanistan. They love the fact that we’re holding down the peace and stability so they can basically move in and transact business. They hate us because we’re in a neighboring nation-state, which is one of the real sensitivities on the Korean Peninsula. So as soon as that vacuum is created in Afghanistan, which will happen eventually, China’s going to have to stand up and say, ‘We’ve got to play a role in our own backyard that we’ve never had to do in 62 years of nationhood. We’re going to have to figure out how to deal with competing factions in our backyard.’ …”

Here’s more Jon Huntsmann, asked about how we can compete with China (I typed as he talked):
        ”By getting our house in order. I can give you 10 policy prescriptions on how we can forge a better economic and security relationship with China, but it’s all right here. I hate to over-simplify this, but until such time that we get our debt under control, spending under control, get some pathway for economic expansion, we’re not going to have the leverage that we have always had in our relationship with China. I’ve dealt with China for practically 30 years, and many of those years either in business or as a trade negotiator. There were days, there were years when we had vast economic leverage … we’re losing that and they know it and are taking advantage of it. … It starts at home.”

The comments about China taking advantage of the situation and mining precious minerals in Afghanistan are especially intriguing. (The inference I took was that China is relying on the U.S. military to provide it with a safer climate to build up its mining operations in Afghanistan.)

The Manchin/McCain exchange followed by discussion:

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Now it’s your turn.

  • Dorinda

    I was able to see both segments on Morning Joe.  It was interesting to watch Mika’s reaction since she’s been saying for awhile that Huntsman struck her as a candidate who could get elected just as Obama had in 2007.   I imagine she’s feeling a little in awe of the man after that great appearance. 

    Manchin was impressive as well.  I’ve always felt he was a very decent guy.

    • Anonymous

      Well said, Dorinda. 

      Huntsman is a great candidate to take Obama down. Unfortunately, right-wingers want Bachmann. That’s ain’t happening, as they’ll discover in the general election. 

      • tek

        Michele Bachmann is an evangelical Christian and she has that same platform Dubya had of promising to turn the country into a theocracy–totally unConstitutional. We can’t withstand another novice president with a personal idealogical agenda that is illegal or unconstitutional. 

        Jon Huntsman is the man.

        The Republican Committee does not like Bachmann and Independents won’t vote for her but people who voted Obama and regret it will vote for Huntsman.

        • Dorinda

          A strong supporter of Hillary who eventually went over to McCain-Palin rather than vote for Obama was interviewed by Neil Cavuto this afternoon.  Lady Lynn de Rothschild had a fundraiser for Huntsman last night, bringing in over a million dollars.  I’d bet all or near all were once Democrats or current Democrats.  She’s very convinced Huntsman is the one to beat Obama and more importantly, to lead our country.

        • Anonymous

          Dorinda—-Well, I’m very disappointed in Lynn Rothschild.
          I guess money IS deeper than gender.
          And we wonder why we have never had a woman President.
          I don’t wonder anymore.

        • Anonymous

          tek—-the way the moneyed people like Rothschild, and the elite media are cramming Huntsman down our throats, I believe it’s appropriate to refer to him now as “Stimulus 2″……..

        • ~JustMe~

          Interesting?? Lady de Rothschild : Most recently, she has announced her desire to form a “centrist” group that combines what she views as “the sensible policies of both parties.” Although this has not publicly been confirmed, there is speculation that this group is No Labels. On June 22, 2011, she hosted a fundraiser for Jon Huntsman’s presidential campaign.
          Yet, I notice she is not listed on the No Labels website as a Founding Leader?
          http://nolabels.org/about-us/founding-leaders/?page=1

        • ~JustMe~

          Interesting?? Lady de Rothschild : Most recently, she has announced her desire to form a “centrist” group that combines what she views as “the sensible policies of both parties.” Although this has not publicly been confirmed, there is speculation that this group is No Labels. On June 22, 2011, she hosted a fundraiser for Jon Huntsman’s presidential campaign.
          Yet, I notice she is not listed on the No Labels website as a Founding Leader?
          http://nolabels.org/about-us/founding-leaders/?page=1

        • Ferd_Berfle

          Most recently, she has announced her desire to form a “centrist” group
          that combines what she views as “the sensible policies of both parties.”
          ==================
          Sounds good on paper, ~~JustMe~~, although she would first have to define “centrist” and “sensible” before I would jump on that bandwagon. The way words are twisted anymore, I don’t trust someone telling me the sky is blue unless I see it with my own lying eyes.

        • Madame deFarge

          So if all these Democrats like Huntsman so much why doesn’t he run as a Democrat?  I was a life long Democrat but certainly after 5/31/08 do not identify as one.

          If they split the Obama vote fine but this smells of an end run around any Republican candidate.

          BTW, it seems if I don’t post every day, I have to re-register my name with every damned post.  Very irritating. 

        • ~JustMe~

          Agree Ferd, I find it strange that she is connected to No Labels group that has been discussed here before in great detail. Yet there is no mention of her on the leaders’ page. Maybe she is simply a financial backer?

      • Anonymous

        noogan—–China is eating our ( America’s) lunch and taking over the world, while sending us defected, dangerous children’s toys and other products.
        I’m curious: what exactly did Jon Huntsman do during his tenure to change what China is doing to us?
        It seems that China is even MORE powerful now, than when Obama, Jon’s ‘remarkable” boss, took office.  Very troubling to me.

        • Anonymous

          Well China didn’t bomb us or call in all the debt under Huntsman’s ambassadorship.  Could it be because he’s actually already been a trade negotiator with China.

          Stop hyperventilating over the Obama connection.  It probably has been a good thing in the long run to have him in China regardless of who’s president.

        • Guest

          I read somewhere (Wash Post?) that Huntsman was apparently frustrated at his lack of influence after 2 years on the job, which ties into the need to get things together on the home front before any serious progress can be made towards making the US more competitive and building a business alliance with the Chinese.  

          He had planned to wait for a presidential run in 2016 but saw a relatively weak Republican field and jumped at the chance to make a real impact this cycle. Frankly I doubt it is much more complicated than that.   

        • Anonymous

          Guest—Well, since Mormons view women as the “weaker” sex, I can understand why he thought the Republican field ( Michele, Sarah) was weak,
          Very depressing to me, esp. after Michele blew everybody out of the water last week.

        • Guest

          Huntsman witnessed first hand the disaster that is befalling this country internationally and saw the presidency as an opportunity to make a difference. Obama cannot make the hard decisions because he doesn’t fundamentally advocate for America’s interests. 

          Even if he were a glorified messenger, in China, which I’m sure is far from the truth, it is still (obviously) way more relevant experience than being a woman or doing well in one debate, no ??

        • Anonymous

          Guest—-What I’m really afraid of is that Huntsman would serve for three years, then in his “senior” year as president, he’d quit and go join the WHO for one last tour. 
          But, ya know, I’m just a woman and so I guess I don’t fully appreciate what is considered “relevant experience” in our patriarchy. I have so much to learn.

      • Madame deFarge

        Perry and Cristie are the topping the with Republican voters at present.

  • Nancy G Grinall

    I heard nothing about WOMEN

    • Dorinda

      Nancy, This was an interview over perhaps a 10 minute segment.  I didn’t hear any questions asked by Mika the Superwoman or Joe or anyone else around the table.  This wasn’t his platform to announce all his positions.  What was it about women you were hoping to hear?  He’s got a few in his family.

  • BINKY

    This man is presidential.  I wish he would run.  Allen West on youtube:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsjLgSJFENw&feature=player_embedded

    • Anonymous

      You know, that’s the problem with the Republican Party these days as I see it: THEY WISH. 

      Well, as they say, if wishes were horses beggars would ride.

      Jon Huntsman is a super candidate; but the wingnuts need their red meat, and they will gorge on it. Then, they will lose in November 2012. 

      • Anonymous

        Maybe they want, you know, someone who is going to stand up and confront Obama. Huntsman is about as RINO as they come. Haven’t we’ve had enough of milque-toast RINO’s who want to play nicey nicey with Obama?

        • Anonymous

          How is Huntsman a RINO?  Example, please?

      • Anonymous

        Maybe they want, you know, someone who is going to stand up and confront Obama. Huntsman is about as RINO as they come. Haven’t we’ve had enough of milque-toast RINO’s who want to play nicey nicey with Obama?

      • Guest

        Hunstman can’t compete in a closed Republican primary, but he those aren’t the rules in New Hampshire and South Carolina. And he has as good a chance as anyone in a wide-open one.

        Michele Bachmann isn’t going to be the Republican nominee for president.  

      • BINKY

        You may be right about Huntsman, but I’m not feeling it.  When he talked about how nice he would be during the run for the White House, I saw another 4 years of Obama.  Nice will not beat the evil that’s there now.  IMHO

  • Anonymous

    Could this be why Harry Reid supports Huntsman over Romney? (from a comment–no link):
    ********************
    Also, Huntsman gave 25K to Harry Reid in the last campaign. That right
    there should disqualify any conservative from giving him a second looks.

    • Anonymous

      Actually, it was family members. Here’s link. Makes little difference to me.
      http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/ralstons-flash/2011/jun/22/huntsmans-family-gave-nearly-25000-reid-last-cycle/

      • Anonymous

        Sadly, this could cost Huntsman any chance at the nomination.

        • http://twitter.com/ImaLindatoo Im a Linda too

          he’s not running for Republican nomination, he’s running for Obama’s VP running mate.

        • Dorinda

          A tweet from Huntsman in response to this charge of contributing to Reid said he’d never contributed to him and he never would.  You can find this on his website.

          Cindyindie, I truly don’t need to search for a reason to support him.  If he continues to impress me, I will support him.  We differ in opinion on the best candidate for the country and the most likely one to defeat Obama.  Only time will tell who the nominee is and whether he/she can ultimately win.  I do feel our time to get this right is running very short.

        • Anonymous

          Dorinda—-It was my experience working in politics, that the candidate who is attacked the most ferociously, is the candidate the opponent thinks can beat him/her. That ain’t Huntsman. The Dems love him. Wonder why?

        • Anonymous

          “he’s not running for Republican nomination, he’s running for Obama’s VP running mate”

          Biden will take Hill’s place, and Obama will select Huntsman as An Ode to Harmony.

      • Anonymous

        Sadly, this could cost Huntsman any chance at the nomination.

  • Anonymous

    Oh for an electorate who sought SUBSTANCE instead of SHOW. 

    I see a repeat of the 2008 election. Rolling out before us. There’s a canddate with the substance to actually lead this country; but that candidate doesn’t have a chance, because right wing ideologues will have their day. History doesn’t repeat itself; but it rhymes.

    I so wish the GOP would grasp reality and pick the candidate who is conservative, right on the issues, and has the experience, and accomplishments–not to mention the big Republican money behind him–to actually win. But no, from all indications, wingers want their red meat and they’ll settle for nothing less. They want Bachmann. 

    • Anonymous

      noogan—-Are you talking about Huntsman?
      Well, a major problem with him is that six months after the Stimulus Bill was rammed down our throats, he wrote Obama a letter and said “You’re a remarkable leader”
      I mean, forget that Huntsman happily joined the administartion of this Chicago thug, but he also praised him.
      IMO, and with due respect for your political view, the fact that he would do that makes me think there’s something seriously wrong with him mentally. I cringed when I read that letter, and could never support him.
      But, because he’s a politician, I can say, with alot of confidence, that he wrote that line in the letter to insure independent votes, should he ever run for Prez. That’s how the game is played.

      • Ferd_Berfle

        Agreed, Cindyindie. I just don’t trust Huntsman at all. And I’m tired of politicians, a term which is just another euphemism for liar.

        • Anonymous

          Amen, Bro Berfle!

        • Anonymous

          Huntsman isn’t the run of the mill politican.  Check out his credentials.  He’s got street cred with me since I lived in Utah when he was governor.  He actually got things done and dealt a good ol’ boys theocracy a near fatal blow in the politics/running of the state.  He did it without media circus or an attorney’s loophole phoniness.

          He’s a smooth operator that gets results.

        • Anonymous

          Huntsman isn’t the run of the mill politican.  Check out his credentials.  He’s got street cred with me since I lived in Utah when he was governor.  He actually got things done and dealt a good ol’ boys theocracy a near fatal blow in the politics/running of the state.  He did it without media circus or an attorney’s loophole phoniness.

          He’s a smooth operator that gets results.

        • Ferd_Berfle

          He’s a smooth operator that gets results.
          ==============
          Well, Buzz, I see your point but that’s my problem with him. I would hold my nose and vote for him but I still think he’s Obama-lite.

        • Anonymous

          BuzzLatte—–It pains me to disagree with you, because I’ve always like you, but i just don’t care for Huntsman, for the reasons I’ve listed……Plus, I’m so depressed that the women, once again, are being overlooked….and derided.

        • Anonymous

          Ah there’s a difference between a con man operator like Obama and a competent, get it done CEO type like Huntsman.  He’s not Obama light.  Obama is in his own category of Personality Disordered sociopath.

          • Ferd_Berfle

            Obama is in his own category of Personality Disordered sociopath.
            ================
            Touche. Got me there, Buzz.

        • Anonymous

          Ferd:  Huntsman a professed Progressive Rock fan.  What could be wrong?  :-)

      • Dorinda

        Cindyindie,
        You can’t imagine supporting Huntsman because he was appointed Ambassador to China, 7,000 miles away from Obama.  How do you feel about Bob Gates and his willingness to stay in a very high level cabinet position where he had to speak to Obama almost daily?  Gates is still with him through the first 2 1/2 years, albeit finally retiring now.  I can’t find a reason to question or disrespect either one for serving.  Good Lord, this country needs qualified, credible and competent leadership.  Don’t believe for a second that Petraus wasn’t plopped into the CIA to take him off the playing field.  Should we turn our noses up at him and sneer because he joined a very crucial post in the Obama Administration? 

        • Anonymous

          Dorinda—-have you been paying attention?
          I don’t like Obama. I don’t respect Obama.
          I don’t want Obama to be president. That’s why I come to vent here at No Q.
          So why would I ever endorse someone like Huntsman who found favor with that Chicago thug? and willingly became part of his administration? See?
          Your looking for excuses to support him…and that’s fine.
          We’re just different.

        • Madame deFarge

          Neither Gates or Petraus are running for POTUS.  I don’t trust Huntsman at all.

    • Guest

      How is Bachmann going over in New Hampshire ? Because Republicans there are conservatives of course but not Christian conservatives. And her core of grassroots evangelical supporters are nationwide at most a 15-20% constituency in the party ? They only have as much power as they are given by the majority of floating voters and drifting voters, unfortunately.  

  • Anonymous

    Huntsman: Obama Not A “Remarkable Leader”

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/06/22/huntsman_obama_no_longer_a_remarkable_leader-comments.html

    Well, if you needed more proof at what a loser this guy is, check out his Hannity interview…

    • Anonymous

      …apparently a flip flopper too,

      • Anonymous

        Well, we don;t need another one of those.

  • Ferd_Berfle

    What I see happening here is that the MSM is pushing this guy because Obama-lite would be no real choice at all but would merely be less of the same. This country has compromised itself to near bankruptcy and less than first world status and is in the proverbial handcart to hell. I want Oblahblah and his policies out the door. Another, less leftist version of him simply won’t do.

    If we’re going to go down perdition’s path, we may as well keep Oblahblah and get this over with rather than drag it out.

    • FlBreeze

      MUST READ:

      Barack Obama is a Bad Man American Thinker, by Jay Clarke 6/21/2011 When he first entered the national political arena, I thought Barack Obama was a sincere man, mistaken in his political beliefs, but an honest advocate of them. Today, like millions of Americans, my evaluation of Barack Obama would be quite different. Without attempting to go over every policy, speech, and embarrassment to explain what is wrong with the man, I might just sum it up the way that many parents do when teaching their sons and daughters about right and wrong. “Obama,” I would say, “is a bad man.” http://www.americanthinker.com

      • Anonymous

        -
        Sorry for the post being sort of ‘bunched up’ -
        no edit button is showing up.

        GRRRR…..

    • Dorinda

      The media I’ve seen and read are extremely critical and dismissive of Huntsman.  I feel they are doing the opposite by doing Obama’s bidding for him.   They will plant the seeds that He’s a terrible choice and make sure Obama doesn’t have to run against him.  Obama has done this his entire political life.  He finds ways to knock his challengers out of the race so he slides in slick as snot.  That’s exactly what is going on here.

      • Ferd_Berfle

        Well, we’ll just disagree on this one then. I still smell a rat in some smoke-filled backroom, however, with this push for Huntsman.

      • Dorinda

        Can’t edit, so meant to type he, not He in the post above.

      • Anonymous

        The paranoia about Jon Huntsman is ludicrous. Read his record. He is a CONSERVATIVE. 

    • Madame deFarge

      Exactly, Ferd.  Why do the LMS like him so very much?   He can’t classify as the dreaded Conservative Republican on that alone..

    • Anonymous

      Ferd, that is simply not true. Obama is a leftist; Huntsman is a conservative. His record is clear, and even the CATO Institute rated him one of the top 5 fiscal conservative governors. His stand on climate change may not be preferable to you, but he is clearly pro-life, pro-2nd amendment, and a fiscal conservative. In one of the reddest states in the country, he was re-elected to a 2nd term as governor by over 77%. 

      The lies and misrepresentations about Jon Huntsman are unfathomable to me, particularly when it comes to people like yourself, who should be more worried about Michelle Bachmann and her particularly vile brand of big-government evangelicalism. 

      No candidate is ever perfect. There will be no superman or white knight riding in on the horse to rescue us. We must choose the candidate that best represents our NATION, not ideologues on either end of the spectrum. We have had the leftist end of the spectrum. True conservatives MUST claim the CENTER-RIGHT in this country in order to save it. Swinging from one extreme [Obama] to the other extreme [Bachmann, Santorum, etc] is a futile exercise in destruction.  

      Romney implemented RomneyCare in Massachusetts; Huntsman signed the Climate Change Initiative in Utah. But Huntsman has the foreign policy expertise on China we NEED. 

      He is NOT a leftists or a RINO. He is a very good competitive candidate for President, who has the best chance to beat Obama. 

      If Republicans destroy him, they have a death wish. 

      • Anonymous

        Noogan—-Not to beat a dead dragon horse, but what exactly is it that Huntsman did for us in China that has made a difference? I seriously want to know.
        Just getting gussied-up and hosting alot of State Dinners does not an expert make.
        Ambassadorships are notoriously reserved for the rich and powerful as rewards for political donations. That’s not my definition…it’s just a known fact.
        Now, Noogan, remember I, like you, was born in Shreveport, so be gentle in answering :)

      • Ferd_Berfle

        He’s being pushed by backroom deal makers and I want no part of it. We’ve compromised ourselves into a real pickle here and more compromise won’t fix it.

  • Anonymous

    I was a Bill and Hillary Dem all the way.  The corruption to place Obama in the nomination of 2008 made me run and never look back at the Dems ever.

    Give Huntsman a chance.  So he doesn’t come off cutesy hockey mom like Sarah or Noo Joisey cocky like Chris Christie.  He has the chops…check him out.

    • Anonymous

      I agree with you BuzzLatte, but regretfully, people are so propagandized by wingnut bloggers, they are deluded into believing that moderate positions on some issues make a candidate a leftist. Reading through comments on right wing blogs is an exercise in mindless bot-ism of the Obama kind during 2008! 

      I’m reliving hell. Wingnuts want Bachmann, a prospect I find so disgusting I cannot even bear it. She is EVERYTHING I despise and I mean it. 

      • BINKY

        Michelle Bachmann would not be my first choice for President, but I get sick of the tearing down of anyone conservative (especially women) by use of derogatory terms such as “wingnuts” “wingnut bloggers”.  What the heck is a wingnut anyhow?  Do you mean conservative, Tea Party, Tea Party Conservative, What?  Or is it just anyone who believes that “marriage should be between one man and one woman”?  Bachmann is a decent woman, yet she’s EVERYTHING you despise.  Please enumerate for me because I don’t understand.

  • FlBreeze

    -
     Bronwyn,

    The EDIT button has disappeared, can you do anything about it?
    Also, the posts in the last thread are out of chronological order,
    sort of scrambled, not like ‘last first’ as it usually happens.  I am
    still using it to post the latest news articles, as I usually try not
    to interfere with the conversation on a new open thread…..

    Thank you.

    • ~JustMe~

      I get the feeling you have not logged in breeze, that is why the edit button is not available for you?

      • FlBreeze

        Yes I have, JustMe, I had problems with my
        modem….will try to again and see what happens.

        Thank you!!

      • Madame deFarge

        I am logged in so where do I find “edit button”?

        • Ferd_Berfle

          On the far right next to the “flag” button.

        • ~JustMe~

          If you don’t see an edit button, you are not logged in!

  • Anonymous

    Huntsman signed this :

    Based on conclusive scientific evidence, we recognize
    that global climate change is a grave threat to our people, our
    environment, and our respective ways of life. Therefore, we resolve to
    act quickly to stabilize the atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse
    gases to avoid the resulting catastrophic impacts to the world’s
    ecosystems, oceans, water supplies, infrastructure, food production, and
    human health. The magnitude and urgency of the challenges in
    stabilizing the climate will require an unprecedented level of
    collaboration and cooperation among all levels of government around the
    world.
    We also recognize that the transition to a low carbon society will
    invigorate and strengthen global, national and regional economies by
    enhancing energy security, increasing energy efficiency, and creating
    new jobs and industries that stimulate diverse, de-centralized and
    sustainable economic activity.
    We further recognize that states and provinces from around the world,
    including the undersigned, have embarked on journey to pursue
    innovative actions  and policies to address climate change. This
    declaration is another step that strengthens and advances our shared
    vision for long-term cooperative action. We seek to create a low carbon
    society and enhance energy security by providing ongoing support to our
    national governments as they combat climate change

    .Representing the distinguished list of Authentic Conservatives who
    signed their names to this, along with Huntsman there was of course
    Arnold Schwarzenegger and…Charlie Crist of Florida. That’s it.http://www.verumserum.com/?p=26023

    • Anonymous

      Thanks, Harp!

    • Anonymous

      I dedicate this to Jonny Huntsman

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTnwv2NN-DI

      • Madame deFarge

        NumbersUSA gives Hunstman a D- on immigration.  ‘Nuf said for me.

      • Anonymous

        Oh Cindy–that’s hilarious!  There are so many wonderful versions of this duet standard (Ray Charles & Betty Carter come to mind, and Blossom Dearie singing with someone whom I cannot remember).  And, okay, here’s another humorous version:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHYqKEAehPU

        • Anonymous

          LOL–oowawa—So funny! Thank you….Is that Betty Garrett? 
          When I was a little girl I ADORED Red Skelton, because he made funny faces and I thought his name was “Skel-e-ton”…and that sounded so funny to a four year old!

        • Anonymous

          P.S. oowawa—OMG I forgot Fran’s show tonight!  Oh well they repeat them, I’ve noticed…..

        • Anonymous

          Yes Cindy–it is Betty Garrett.  I always loved Red Skelton also–Clem Cadiddlehopper–Freddy the Freeloader–wonderful characters.  He was funny!

    • Anonymous

      Oh, for god’s sake.

      Reducing carbon emissions isn’t a crime; we should do it. 

      Huntsman has already stated clearly that Cap and Trade is not a realistic policy. 

      I happen to believe that we should nurture and save our environment. That doesn’t mean I’m with either side on climate change, I’m not; what it means is that building one huge parking lot within our borders destroys everything we love. For that reason I bought land and a house in a place where stripping trees is discouraged. It’s a beautiful place to live, cool and natural and filled with mother nature’s wonders, both wild and free. 

      If you’ve got a problem with protecting what God gave us, then you’re the wacko, not Huntsman.

      • Ferd_Berfle

        If you’ve got a problem with protecting what God gave us,
        ==============
        Cap and trade won’t protect anything but will transfer wealth from hard working Americans to yet another group of shysters. The climate and the shysters can wait.

  • candymarl buster4u

    We all have to get past this  issue thing.  Left vs right, conservative vs liberal.

    If WWIII breaks out those nukes and bombs won’t care what your political stripe is.

    Neither women, men, or children will be safe until the warmongering ends.  Where’s Mike Moore now?
    Where’s Code Pink now? Those color revolutions they helped start overseas have, at least in the case of Egypt, ended with a government more oppressive than the tyrant they deposed.

    I said from the start that this was not about democracy but about establishing the Islamic caliphate. 

    Jon Huntsman may not be  the answer.  WE are the answer when we all say enough is enough. I know little about the man. But from this post and comments I know more about him than I do about the current President in the WH.

    BTW do you know some people still do not know that Libya is a country on the continent of Africa?   Technically we  have an African American President actively killing Africans.
     
    Be sure to point that out to Obamabot supporters.  Why aren’t they screaming racism now?

    • Ferd_Berfle

      Technically we  have an African American President actively killing Africans.
       
      Be sure to point that out to Obamabot supporters.  Why aren’t they screaming racism now?
      ==================
      Ding, ding, ding! Thanks, candymarl.

      • Anonymous

        I’ll be happy to point that out to Obots…I just haven’t seen any for awhile.  They’re too busy trying to find a job.

        • candymarl buster4u

          You mean the jobs that are there in the great recovery and everything is fine that Obama said.

          I am amazed!

  • Ferd_Berfle

    God help us all, Obumble is jacking his jaws on TeeVee again.

  • Ferd_Berfle

    Something is amiss here. I’m a man but I am wondering why it is that when strong women run for office, the MSM and sundry partisans literally beat the bushes for someone else to run against them–HRC and a relatively unknown Chicago thug named Barry Soetoro Obama and Bachman and the push for a relative unknown in Huntsman. What’s going on here?

    • Anonymous

      -
      Simple, Ferd:

      “Sisterhood/ Solidarity” do not exist – more like

      the “Green-eyed-Monster” does….

      • Anonymous

        This sister won’t vote for a woman just because she’s a woman. 

    • Anonymous

      Ferd—I’ve been watching the documentary “New York in the Fifties” (a netflix rental) It’s been an amazing and depressing  an eye-opener for me…   seeing how women (writers, artists, etc)  back then, during the bohemian, hip days in the Village…with.the “beat” generation of writers and performers, were completely overlooked and ignored!!!…..except of course for the sexual pleasure of men.  I realized that the “sexual revolution” was, once again, NOT about or FOR us women, but about how much easier it’d be for all of us to please men, if we were “liberated”.
      The consistent, but very ugly theme throughout our history is that whenever women stand on the precipice of REAL change, REAL, liberation, they (we) are always knocked out of the way to make room for another “qualified” hip, cool, “serious”  ‘accomplished, experienced man. And women do it do other women as well!
      Michele Bachmann, U.S Representative, a former Federal Tax Attorney, mother of five, foster mother to 20, self-made, accomplished small business owner, who didn’t drop out of school to join a rock band…..is now presented to us as some kind of a silly, uneducated punchline? Really?
      When will this madness end? I’m sure I won’t be around to enjoy it in my lifetime.

      • Anonymous

         I realized that the “sexual revolution” was, once again, NOT about or
        FOR us women, but about how much easier it’d be for all of us to please
        men, if we were “liberated”.

        Great statement, Cindy.  The “Summer of Love” sure proved that one!

        • Anonymous

          oowawa—what is amazing in this docu,, is how “cool’ and intellectual is was to argue race relations into the wee hours of the morning!  They were very sensitive to that issue, which of course they should have been. But the womenfolk? Totally ignored…..even Gay Talese’s wife, Nina  said that…
          It was a revelation to me…I actually rented the film just to see the clothes and all of the great ‘haunts” back in the day!! LOL… Little did I expect to discover, actually, what I guess I  really knew all along.

        • Anonymous

          oowawa——-OMG–I didn’t know this story about Donna Ron’s rape!  SO disgusting that Ayers walks around today a free, rich. “revered” darling of the Left.
          Thank you for that link! 

      • Madame deFarge

        Oh, Cindyindie, you hit the nail on the head with that comment.  I want to weep at how liberal women were duped by the “revolution”.  It was no such thing.  We wanted to please the Democrat men and the Republican men simply sat back and enjoyed the dubious rewards.  We gave away all of our power but the joke was on us.  We threw out all the standards then found out that Mom was right after all.

        • Anonymous

          Madame—I want to weep, too! 
          It’s like finding out you were adopted, or something. And socially I guess we were adopted, or abducted, by the Left.
          Just an incredibly profound discovery….. And very sad.

    • Anonymous

      Bachmann is a wacko. I will never vote for her, not even against Obama. 

      • Ferd_Berfle

        Well, then another example-Sarah Palin. I’m sick of the women-in-the-kitchen attitude of both parties.

  • Anonymous

    The Picture Darkens

    Investor’s Business Daily, by Staff   

    6/22/2011 

    Budget: For some Democrats, it’s become an article of
    faith that our budget crisis isn’t serious enough to require major entitlement
    reforms. A new report from Congress’ nonpartisan budget think-tank shatters that
    delusion. The Congressional Budget Office’s Long-Term Budget Outlook has new,
    alarming projections that should be a warning to all. The ratio of debt to GDP
    has reached 69%, up from 62% last year. In 2010, the CBO’s worst-case scenario
    said the debt-to-GDP ratio would rise to 87% by 2020. Now, with the economy
    failing to revive and the ongoing surge in stimulus spending, the total level
    of

  • Anonymous

    Private emails detail Obamaadmin involvement incutting
    non-union workerpensions post-GM bailout

    Daily Caller, by Matthew Boyle   

    6/22/2011

    New emails obtained by The Daily Caller contradict
    claims by the Obama administration that the Treasury Department would avoid
    “intervening in the day-to-day management” of General Motors post-auto bailout.
    These messages reveal that Treasury officials were involved in decision-making
    that led to more than 20,000 non-union workers losing their pensions. (General
    Motors not eager to be political talking point in 2012) Republican Reps. Dan
    Burton and Mike Turner say that during the GM bailout, Treasury Secretary
    Timothy Geithner decided to cut pensions for salaried non-union employees at
    Delphi, a GM spinoff, to expedite GM’s emergence from bankruptcy.

  • Anonymous

    Ruh roh…I just heard on Fox that Romney and Huntsman are distant relatives. LOL.

    I’m sure that’s not exactly the news Huntsman wanted…

    • Anonymous

      In Utah everyone is a distant relative…lol!

  • Anonymous

    This is an open thread so I am going to lighten the mood.  I love salsa music and dancing and this shows that the love of salsa crosses all boundaries.

    http://youtu.be/rRaPVTetseI

    “Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”
    http://www.saywhatyouwill.proboards.com

    • Anonymous

      Psstt–I love Salsa music too.  Don’t agree with his politics, but Ruben Blades was IMHO the Salsa God.  Also loved Grupo Niche!

      • Anonymous

        I knew I liked you….lol  Salsa music is just plain feel good music.  I am not a big fan of Ruben….more into El Gran Combo De Puerto Rico, Marc Anthony and Oscar de Leon.  And I, too, love Grupo Niche!!!

        So, do you dance as well as the two in that video… :)

        “Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”

        • Anonymous

          LOL Psstt–wish I could dance salsa–I can’t.  Don’t get around much anymore!  But I can still dance in my imagination!

        • Anonymous

          Years ago, a friend who taught dancing parttime at Arthur Murray Studio met with a group of us once a week to teach us different dances…At the end of many months, I still couldn’t do any of the dances.  I said it was because my husband is left footed..
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcSC20T21rI

        • Anonymous

          Surely oowawa does the Bunny Hop :)

      • Anonymous

        Cindyindie thinks you can do the bunny hop.  What about the Hokey Pokey?  lol

        “Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”

        • Anonymous

          Can’t bunny-hop so good nowadays.  Can “hokey-pokey” up to the point where I have to “turn myself around,” and that takes a while.

    • Anonymous

      Here’s one of our daughter’s favorites in this genre…It’s gorgeous IMO (she’s a professional flamenco dancer)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhHWhRTkVBE&feature=related

      • Anonymous

        WOW!!  Never knew anyone who had a daughter who danced Flamenco professionally….what talent it takes.  I had an aunt who dabbled in it years ago.

        Thanks for sharing the song…it is beautiful!!

        “Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”

        • Anonymous

          Thanks Psstcmere!

  • Anonymous

    Does it not matter that Huntsman (and Romney) are Mormons?  All of you people who are advocating for these people can speak up and tell me it just doesn’t matter.  This new Gallup Poll indicates that it will be a significant consideration with the electorate:

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/148100/Hesitant-Support-Mormon-2012.aspx

    • Anonymous

      Holy Poly(gamy), Batman! That’s a significant percentage!

    • Anonymous

      With Romney it could really matter as he comes from the separatist values of the religion.

      Huntsman is younger and has distanced himself for years from the fundy mormon thinking. Actually he lets his adopted kids practice the religion from their native countries.

      Romney, IMHO, is a lost cause.  Huntsman is still viable as a candidate.

      • Anonymous

        “Huntsman served as a Mormon missionary in Taiwan for two years.”

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Huntsman,_Jr.

        • Anonymous

          It doesn’t mean he’s swallowed the True Believer litany 100%.  Many missionaries come back from missions and dump the religion completely.  Something about getting out of the Kingdom of Joe Smith and seeing the real world…

          Many mormon guys and now gals do a mission to keep the family peace or to keep grandpa writing the checks…if you get my drift.

    • Anonymous

      Article Six of the Constitution of the United States states that there shall be no religious test for public office in the United States, and that all office holders shall be bound only by their oath to the Constitution of the United States. JFK addressed this issue during HIS campaign in 1960, which at the time was a huge event because he was the FIRST CATHOLIC PRESIDENT of the United States, and people worried about the Pope running the WH. 

      Again, for those who SAY they support the Constitution, they are bound to support that Constitution, whether or not they like a particular Constitutional issue. Ignorance and hypocrisy and fear of “the other” are nothing new. But a Constitutionalist is a Constitutionalist, or they are a hypocrite. 

      • Anonymous

        It’s not a matter of a “religious test”–it’s a matter of how people will vote for the office of president.  Would people knowingly elect a Muslim as President?  I doubt it.  “Catholic” was an issue for Kennedy.  Percentage of Catholics in the population: over 25%; percentage of Mormons: 1.4%.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_United_States

    • Guest

      I think most of that percentage are voters that wouldn’t have supported him anyway, based on the issues. Unfortunately, some people regard a reactive leader as ‘strong’ and ‘decisive’ and a mild-mannered, reflective but more substantive one as ‘weak’ and a ‘flip-flopper’. 

    • Tricia

      oowawa–Romney and Huntsman are as different as an Orthodox Jew and a Reformed Jew.  We all know poeple who are X religion and different as night and day.  These two are an example.
      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/21/understanding-jon-huntsmans-distinct-brand-of-mormonism/comment-page-2/

  • Anonymous

    Hillary Asks Congress Whose Side Are You On?

    http://beta.news.yahoo.com/clinton-asks-congress-whose-side-021649098.html

    I am not sure what to think about this….

    “Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”

  • Anonymous

    CBO releases ‘daunting’ long-term budget outlook

    Daily Caller,
    by Amanda Carey   
    6/22/2011

    The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) released its Long-Term 2011 Budget Outlook Report, Wednesday, with dire projections for the nation’s fiscal future if the current path is not changed. The CBO called its budget outlook “daunting.”

    (Snip) One of the more dire figures in Wednesday’s report is the CBO’s projection that by the end of 2011, federal debt will reach
    approximately 70 percent of gross domestic product – the highest level it has been since the end of World War II. The report also says that under current law, the aging population combined with rising health care costs will cause…..

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/22/cbo-releases-daunting-long-term-budget-outlook/

  • Anonymous

    6.7 earthquake rattles Japan

    The Scotsman [Edinburgh], by Staff   

    6/22/2011

    A magnitude-6.7 earthquake rattled north-east Japan
    this morning. It was the same area of the Pacific where a massive magnitude 9
    quake hit on 11 March, triggering a deadly tsunami. At least 23,000 people were
    killed or disappeared in those disasters, which destroyed hundreds of homes,
    offices and factories in north-eastern Japan. Local media reported a tsunami
    warning had been issued, though there were no immediate reports of damage or
    injuries in the quake, which hit at 6:50am local time.

  • Anonymous

    6.7 earthquake rattles Japan

    The Scotsman [Edinburgh], by Staff   

    6/22/2011

    A magnitude-6.7 earthquake rattled north-east Japan
    this morning. It was the same area of the Pacific where a massive magnitude 9
    quake hit on 11 March, triggering a deadly tsunami. At least 23,000 people were
    killed or disappeared in those disasters, which destroyed hundreds of homes,
    offices and factories in north-eastern Japan. Local media reported a tsunami
    warning had been issued, though there were no immediate reports of damage or
    injuries in the quake, which hit at 6:50am local time.

  • Anonymous

    President
    Obama is warning of “looming disagreements” between the
    United States
    and Israel.  The
    situation in the Middle East
    is
    truly explosive, in large part because America is perceived as
    having
    abandoned our friendship with Israel.

    Right now, Liberty Counsel’s Mat
    Staver is in Israel and will
    have the opportunity to meet with Prime Minister Benjamin

    Netanyahu to personally discuss their powerful “Stand with

    Israel!” statement of support – along with the fact that it
    has been
    signed by well over 60,000 “pro-Israel” American
    citizens in a very short
    period of time.

    Liberty Counsel
    is calling for a major shift in America’s
    policies toward Israel. This will
    take a strong grassroots movement!

    See Mat’s message
    below…
    –Grassroots Action

    http://www.grassfire.net/r.asp?u=43543&RID=23024220

     

  • Anonymous

    President
    Obama is warning of “looming disagreements” between the
    United States
    and Israel.  The
    situation in the Middle East
    is
    truly explosive, in large part because America is perceived as
    having
    abandoned our friendship with Israel.

    Right now, Liberty Counsel’s Mat
    Staver is in Israel and will
    have the opportunity to meet with Prime Minister Benjamin

    Netanyahu to personally discuss their powerful “Stand with

    Israel!” statement of support – along with the fact that it
    has been
    signed by well over 60,000 “pro-Israel” American
    citizens in a very short
    period of time.

    Liberty Counsel
    is calling for a major shift in America’s
    policies toward Israel. This will
    take a strong grassroots movement!

    See Mat’s message
    below…
    –Grassroots Action

    http://www.grassfire.net/r.asp?u=43543&RID=23024220

     

  • Anonymous

    Reverend Wright brings hisanti-American crusade to
    Baltimore

    Baltimore Sun, by Marta H. Mossburg   

    6/22/2011

    Forget hope and change; victimization is in. Dropped
    by the president and dismissed as a racist by many Americans, the Rev. Jeremiah
    Wright still draws crowds with his sometimes crotch-grabbing, always riveting
    soliloquies about black oppression. The former pastor of Barack Obama drew
    thousands last week to the 8,000-member Empowerment Temple in Baltimore City.
    Overflow lots at the church were filled, and five blocks on either side of the
    massive stadium-like stucco building in Park Heights — a part of town where
    Orthodox Jews mix sometimes…..

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/23/us-dutch-wilders-idUSTRE75M10P20110623

    About time.  Note that the NYT and CNN precede his name with Right-Wing.  I guess not loving radicals who want to kill us is a “wing” thing.

  • Anonymous

    For God’s Sake. 

    This is ridiculous.

    Those new graphic images on cigarette packs? They’re Fakes.

    Yep. 

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/21/hurt-no-ifs-ands-or-butts-fda-warning-photos-faked/?page=1

  • Anonymous

    Article Six of the United States Constitution:
    “The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”During the 1960 presidential campaign, the issue of whether the nation would for the first time elect a Catholic to the highest office in the land raised the specter of an implicit, but no less effective, religious test. John F. Kennedy, in his Address to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association on 12 September 1960, addressed the question directly, saying,[N]either do I look with favor upon those who would work to subvert Article VI of the Constitution by requiring a religious test, even by indirection. For if they disagree with that safeguard, they should be openly working to repeal it.. . . [C]ontrary to common newspaper usage, I am not the Catholic candidate for President.
    I am the Democratic Party’s candidate for President who happens also to be a Catholic.
    I do not speak for my church on public matters; and the church does not speak for me. Whatever issue may come before me as President, if I should be elected, on birth control, divorce, censorship, gambling or any other subject, I will make my decision in accordance with these views — in accordance with what my conscience tells me to be in the national interest, and without regard to outside religious pressure or dictates. And no power or threat of punishment could cause me to decide otherwise.
    But if the time should ever come — and I do not concede any conflict to be remotely possible — when my office would require me to either violate my conscience or violate the national interest, then I would resign the office; and I hope any conscientious public servant would do likewise.
    But I do not intend to apologize for these views to my critics of either Catholic or Protestant faith; nor do I intend to disavow either my views or my church in order to win this election.
    If I should lose on the real issues, I shall return to my seat in the Senate, satisfied that I’d tried my best and was fairly judged.
    But if this election is decided on the basis that 40 million Americans lost their chance of being President on the day they were baptized, then it is the whole nation that will be the loser, in the eyes of Catholics and non-Catholics around the world, in the eyes of history, and in the eyes of our own people.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Six_of_the_United_States_Constitution

    • Anonymous

      Yes, of course it’s constitutional, but, as a practical matter, is a Mormon electable as president on the national stage?  That’s very uncertain.  Would a Muslim be electable as president?  Of course, everybody is free to run, regardless of religion.  So Kennedy’s Catholicism was an issue.  Consider, Catholics comprise over 25% of the U.S.  population.  Mormons, just 1.4%.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_United_States

  • Anonymous

    During the GM bailout, the Obama administration said that the Treasury Department would avoid “intervening in the day-to-day management” of General Motors post-auto bailout.

    Their emails show they lied: These messages reveal that Treasury officials were involved in decision-making that led to more than 20,000 non-union workers losing their pensions. 

    Republican Reps. Dan Burton and Mike Turner say that during the GM bailout, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner decided to cut pensions for salaried non-union employees at Delphi, a GM spinoff, to expedite GM’s emergence from bankruptcy.

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/22/private-emails-detail-obama-admin-involvement-in-cutting-non-union-worker-pensions-post-gm-bailout/#ixzz1Q62gY3e1

  • Anonymous

    Wilders acquittedRadio Netherlands Africa,
    by Staff

    6/23/2011

    The trial of Geert Wilders is over. On Thursday, the three
    Amsterdam district court judges conducting the trial acquitted Mr Wilders on all
    the charges facing him. The 29-month legal struggle which saw one of the
    country’s most popular and influential politicians accused of hate-mongering has
    come to an end. It started back in January 2009 when justices of the Amsterdam
    court ordered the public prosecutor to bring charges against Mr Wilders of
    inciting hatred and discrimination, based on a number of his anti-Islamic
    statements published in the national media, as well as Mr Wilders’ film, Fitna.

    • Anonymous

      -
      JUSTICE IS DONE!!!

  • Anonymous

    Ayn Rand Was Right: WealthyAre on Strike Against
    Obama

    Big Government, by Wayne Allyn Root   

    6/23/2011

    The U.S. economy is crumbling. Businesses are
    collapsing in record numbers. Jobs have disappeared. Tax revenues are down
    dramatically. Coincidence? Everything happening today under Obama resembles the
    storyline of Ayn Rand’s famous book, Atlas Shrugged, one of the most popular
    books of all time, selling over 7 million copies. Now, under President Obama,
    Atlas Shrugged has come to life. Rand prophesized a country dominated by
    socialists, Marxists and statists, where looters, free loaders and poverty
    promoters live off the productive class.

  • Anonymous

    Rise of the silver surfer:
    77% of over 65s are now online

    Daily Mail [UK],
    by Liz Thomas   
    6/23/2011 

    Not so long ago, it was a world thought to be the preserve of the younger generation. But the image of grandma puzzling over
    search engine tools, avatars and right-click menus is fast becoming a false stereotype. Not only are the over-65s no longer daunted by the internet, they say using it is ‘like an anti-ageing cream’ which keeps them feeling young, a study has found. Research into the technology habits of the older generation has
    revealed a rise of the web-savvy ‘silver-surfer’. It found more pensioners than ever are turning to the internet to keep in contact with friends…..

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2007126/77-cent-65s-online.html

  • Anonymous

    The Flotilla of Fools off to Gaza

    FrontPage Magazine, by Phyllis Chesler

    6/23/2011

    The flotilla is coming, the flotilla is coming.
    European and North American activists, journalists, and mercenaries have set
    sail—or are about to do so—on fifteen boats with passengers from twenty-two
    mainly Western countries to ”break the Israeli blockade of Gaza.” Spurred on
    by the anti-Potemkin Village images of Palestinian Arabs living in wretched
    refugee hovels, fenced in by an allegedly ”apartheid” Israeli wall, oppressed
    by ”Nazi” Israeli soldiers for ”racist” reasons (and not because the
    Palestinian leadership practices both Islamic gender and religious apartheid as
    well as terrorism)–the Good People are sailing to the rescue.

    • Anonymous

      Starving people inside a prison is called collective punishment. It was the same thing the Germans did to the Jews in Warsaw. Was it fair and humane then? No. And, it isn’t fair and humane now, just because it’s being done in Gaza. Israel’s policy of blockade of Gaza is only further antagonizing its neighbors; given the times, that’s a very dangerous strategy with regard to Egypt. 
      Two and a Half Years Later: Israel Finally Okays Building Materials for UN Gaza ProjectsPosted: 21 Jun 2011 06:11 PM PDTThe January 2009 invasion of the Gaza Strip left much of the tiny enclave in ruins. Nearly two and a half years later much of the damage remains, with Israeli officials continuing to strictly limit building material allowed in for repairs.But today, the Israeli Defense Ministry approved a pair of large United Nations projects in the strip, allowing the importation of supplies to build 1,200 houses and 18 schools. The supplies will be sent to the UN directly and can only be used on projects previously approved by the Israeli government.The approval signals the first large scale importation of cement and steel into the Gaza Strip since the invasion, and while UN officials say it will make a big difference there remains an extreme shortage of both liveable housing and schools.The shortage, of course, is purely a function of the blockade, as a number of nations have offered significant funding to rebuild the strip since the war, and the UN program is only a small fraction of those.In the meantime those who aren’t the United Nations have few options, but a number of Gazans have reverted to constructing simple dwellings out of mud since the war. With Egypt opening their border to Gaza on what appears to be a permanent basis, however, the Israeli restrictions could soon be practically meaningless.

  • Anonymous

    Liberal Salon.com Writer to Jon Stewart:Drop Your ‘Trite’
    ‘Comedian First’ BS,You’re an ‘Activist’

    Newsbusters, by Ken Shepherd   

    6/23/2011

    It’s not just conservatives who are sick and tired of
    Jon Stewart hiding behind his ”I’m a comedian” excuse when called out for his
    dead-serious liberal pontifications. Even liberals like Salon.com’s Will Bunch
    are tired of the ”Daily Show” host’s faux sanctimony, even as he cheers
    Stewart’s liberalism and calls on the comedian to embrace it. (snip) But the
    lamest thing of all, frankly, is Stewart trying to absolve responsibility from
    the gravitas of what he does – and make no mistake, the gravitas is there – by
    claiming that merely, ”I am a comedian.”

    • Anonymous

      Stewart is an ideologue and a partisan for the Democratic Party and their president, Obama. Worse, he’s disingenuous; he goes on Chris Wallace’s show, insults Republicans, and then pretends he’s “just a comedian,” and he can’t understand why people give him so much credibility! Well, HE’S the one who thought he deserved time on Chris Wallace’s show–it’s not a comedy venue. What a hypocrite. 

  • Anonymous

    Our nation is frickin’ doomed. These dishonest and unethical bastards will do anything to keep the illusion alive.This is nothing but government sanctioned theft of senior citizen Social Security benefits.

    Change To Inflation Measurement On Table As Part Of Budget Talks –Aides

    WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)-

    Lawmakers are considering changing how the Consumer Price Index is calculated, a move that could save perhaps $220 billion and represent significant progress in the ongoing federal debt ceiling and deficit reduction talks.According to congressional aides familiar with the discussions, the proposal would shift how the Consumer Price Index is calculated to reflect how people tend to change spending patterns when prices increase. For example, consumers tend to drive less when gas prices increase dramatically.Such a move is widely seen by economists as resulting in a slower rise in inflation. That would impact an array of federal programs that are linked to CPI including the Social Security program and income tax brackets set by the federal government.The proposal could lower federal spending by around $220 billion over the next decade, based on calculations by last year’s White House deficit commission, which recommended the change as part of its final report.According to two congressional aides familiar with the budget negotiations, the shift is being “seriously discussed” as part of the ongoing talks to strike a budget deal, that would be used to ease the passage of a required increase in the country’s debt limit.More…

    http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-market-news-story.aspx?storyid=201106211841dowjonesdjonline000414&title=change-to-inflation-measurement-on-table-as-part-of-budget-talksaides

  • Anonymous

    Jobless claims rise more than expected

    Reuters,
    by Lucia Mutikani   
    6/23/2011
    WASHINGTON

    - New claims for unemployment benefits rose more than expected last week, a government report showed on Thursday, suggesting little improvement in the labor market this month after employment
    stumbled in May. Initial claims for state unemployment benefits climbed 9,000 to a seasonally adjusted 429,000, the Labor Department said. The prior week’s figure was revised up to 420,000. Economists polled by Reuters had forecast claims to edge up to 415,000 from a previously reported count of 414,000.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/23/us-usa-economy-idUSTRE75K3E820110623

  • Anonymous

    ‘Take comfort in knowing that the tide of war is receding’:
    Barack Obama’s Mission Accomplished?

    Telegraph [UK],
    by Toby Harnden   
    6/23/2011

    Racing through his speech, President Barack Obama
    told us what had been comprehensively leaked over the preceding 24 hours: by next summer 33,000 troops–a third of the American force–will be withdrawn from Afghanistan. The words were soothing–“take comfort in knowing that the tide of war is receding”, rest assured that “the light of secure peace can be seen in the distance”–but what was entirely lacking was an explanation of American strategy in Afghanistan from now on.

    [Snip]Facts on the ground have a nasty habit of intervening and, as the old military saying goes, it is usually wise to remember that…..

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/100093468/take-comfort-in-knowing-that-the-tide-of-war-is-receding-barack-obamas-mission-accomplished/

  • Anonymous

    Farrakhan:
    The White Man
    Made Obama Bomb Libya

    Townhall,
    by Larry Elder    
    6/23/2011 

    The White Man made him do it. Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan recently unmasked the reason for President Barack
    Obama’s unpopular, non-congressionally authorized, War Powers
    Resolution-violating decision to bomb Libya, a country that poses no imminent threat to the United States. “We voted for our brother, Barack,” said Farrakhan, “a beautiful human being with a sweet heart, and now he’s an assassin. They’ve turned him into them.”

    (Snip) The White Man, says Farrakhan, forced Obama to bomb Libya for the oil. Obama’s alleged humanitarian intent, he said, is merely a “noble motive to hide (America’s) wicked agenda!” Farrakhan’s analysis…..

    http://townhall.com/columnists/larryelder/2011/06/23/farrakhan_the_white_man_made_obama_bomb_libya/page/full/

    • Ferd_Berfle

      The White Man, says Farrakhan, forced Obama to bomb Libya for the oil.
      Obama’s alleged humanitarian intent, he said, is merely a “noble motive
      to hide (America’s) wicked agenda!”
      ==============
      Where are my hip-waders? Farrakhan is so miserable a man, he would turn on himself if it would get him attention.

    • Anonymous

      He use to use the term “White Devil”
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SLifea3NHQ

  • Anonymous

    Fed Leaves Door Open to Further Easing

    Get ready; QE3 is on the way to further destroy your dollar’s value.

    It’s criminal, really. This man should be arrested for treason.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-23/bernanke-leaves-door-open-to-easing-if-economy-weakens-further.html

  • Anonymous

    GOP rips plan for climate office

    Washington Times, by Ben Wolfgang   

    6/23/2011

    House Republicans charged Wednesday that the Obama
    administration is aiming to establish a “propaganda office” for Democratic
    initiatives on global warming through a proposal to consolidate operations in a
    new “climate service” office within the Commerce DepartmentTensions boiled over
    at a congressional hearing as officials of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
    Administration (NOAA) defended the consolidation plan contained in President
    Obama’s fiscal 2012 budget and denied having any ulterior motive. NOAA hopes to
    move more than 50 percent of its resources into the new climate service
    department, which it says will serve as the central clearinghouse for farmers,
    local governments,

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Israel served as ‘main course’at EU dinner, official
    says

    Jerusalem Post [Israel], by Herb Keinon

    6/23/2011

    Quartet envoys are expected to meet in Brussels at
    the end of the week amid increasing concern in Jerusalem that the EU hopes to
    avert a Palestinian statehood bid at the UN in September by, as one senior
    Israeli official said on Wednesday, “giving something” significant to the
    Palestinians. According to the official, the concern was that the EU is pushing
    for the adoption of US President Barack Obama’s formula of restarting
    negotiations using the pre-1967 lines with mutually agreed land swaps as a
    baseline, but without pressing the Palestinians to elaborate on security
    arrangements of any future accord with

  • Anonymous

    Israel served as ‘main course’at EU dinner,
    official says

    Jerusalem Post
    [Israel],
    by Herb Keinon
    6/23/2011

    Quartet envoys are expected to meet in Brussels at the end of the week amid increasing concern in Jerusalem that the EU hopes to
    avert a Palestinian statehood bid at the UN in September by, as one senior Israeli official said on Wednesday, “giving something” significant to the Palestinians. According to the official, the concern was that the EU is pushing for the adoption of US President Barack Obama’s formula of restarting negotiations using the pre-1967 lines with mutually agreed land swaps as a
    baseline, but without pressing the Palestinians to elaborate on security arrangements of any future accord with…..

    http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=226157

  • Anonymous

    House sets up Friday vote on
    limiting funding for Libya mission

    The Hill
    [Washington, DC],
    by Russell Berman   
    6/23/2011

    The House is expected to vote Friday on legislation to limit funding for the U.S. military mission in Libya after Republican leaders scrambled to re-write an initial proposal by Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio). Boehner on Tuesday night introduced two proposals that would allow lawmakers to vote to either authorize or end the U.S. combat mission. The original plan was to vote on both Thursday, but after a closed-door conference meeting on
    Wednesday GOP leaders set out to revise the second measure so that it restricts funding for the mission in the current fiscal year without “undercutting our NATO allies”

    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/167997-house-to-vote-friday-on-limiting-funding-for-libya-mission

  • Anonymous

    Pelosi Prediction Backfires? GlitchesArise in Health
    Law

    Fox News, by Shannon Bream   

    6/23/2011 

    Back in March 2010, then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi,
    D-Calif,, uttered the now-famous words, “We have to pass the bill so that you
    can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.” Pelosi was
    talking about the health care law, and it appears she was right about the fact
    that it was full of unknowns. (Snip) “It’s gonna cost about $450 billion over 10
    years,” Senator John Barrasso. R-Wyo., who is also a surgeon, warns. Barrasso
    says it’s yet another burden for average Americans. “Who’s gonna pay for that –
    the taxpayers, people who are paying

  • Anonymous

    Israeli human rights group B’Tselem has issued a new report detailing the government’s dramatic escalation in the number of Palestinian home demolitions in the Jordan Valley, part of the eastern West Bank.

    According to the report, the Israeli government has demolished 103 homes there so far this year, after 86 were demolished in all of 2010 and only 28 in 2009. The moves in the first six months of this year have left more than 700 Palestinians homeless.The area, as with the rest of the West Bank, was occupied by Israel in 1967. Since then, the Israeli government has been repeatedly criticized for forced evictions and harsh military restrictions over Palestinian movement.

    B’Tselem warned that the current policy of escalating demolitions amounted to a “de facto annexation of the Jordan Valley.” The Netanyahu government has ruled out allowing the Jordan Valley to be part of an independent Palestinian state, and insists rather that it is part of Israel’s “border with Jordan.”

    http://www.btselem.org/press-release/sharp-increase-west-bank-home-demolition

  • Anonymous

    Oil Drilling Approvals by EPAExpedited Under House-Passed
    Bill

    Bloomberg, by Katarzyna Klimasinska   

    6/23/2011

    The Environmental Protection Agency would have to
    issue or deny air permits for offshore oil drilling within six months under
    legislation passed by the U.S. House. (snip)In addition to imposing deadlines
    for EPA action, the House measure would take away the authority of the agency’s
    Environmental Appeals Board over air permits for drilling.

  • Anonymous

    Texas anti-groping bill movingahead despite TSA
    changes

    Express News (San Antonio TX), by Peggy
    Fikac   

    6/23/2011

    Lawmakers pushing a bill to ban invasive searches of
    airline passengers without a reason to think they have committed an offense said
    Wednesday they were steaming ahead despite a decision by the federal
    Transportation Security Administration to reduce pat-downs of children.(snip)The
    Texas legislation, as drafted, would make it a crime of official oppression if
    federal employees perform a search that involves touching a person’s private
    parts without probable cause to believe the person has committed an
    offense.

  • Anonymous

    Obama ready to release oilfrom petroleum reserve

    Associated Press, by Staff   

    6/23/2011

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration has
    decided to release 30 million barrels of oil from the U.S. Strategic Petroleum
    Reserve as part of a broader international effort to pump more 60 million
    barrels onto the world market over the next month. U.S. Energy Secretary Steven
    Chu said the release of oil is a response to oil supply disruptions caused by
    turmoil in the Middle East and North Africa, including Libya. The administration
    said the uprising in Libya has resulted in a loss of about 1.5 million barrels
    of oil a day.

  • Anonymous

    June 23, 2011

    America Faces Critical “Colonel Jessup” Moment

    By Joseph Calhoun

    Jessup: You want answers?
    Kaffee: I think I’m entitled to them.

    Jessup: You want answers?
    Kaffee: I want the truth!

    Jessup: You can’t handle the truth!

    Scene from A Few Good Men, written by Aaron Sorkin

    http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2011/06/23/you_cant_handle_the_truth_99089.html

  • Anonymous

    Obama’s America in Black & White

    National Review Online,
    by Seth A. Forman    
    6/23/2011

    Platitudes about the civic utopia that would spring forth from the election of Barack Obama have vanished. Thomas Friedman’s claim that “the American Civil War ended, as a black man . . . became president of the United States,” has now been replaced by PBS host Tavis Smiley’s prediction that the 2012 presidential election is “going to be the ugliest, the nastiest, the most divisive, and the most racist in the history of this Republic.” E. J. Dionne’s trope that “it is time to hope again. Time to hope that the era of
    racial backlash and wedge…..”

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/270291/obama-s-america-black-and-white-seth-forman?page=1

    • Anonymous

      FROM THE COMMENTS:

      Thanks Mr. Forman.

      White racism is so deep BHO has been called a,

      “buck-dancing Tom”…a “terrorist” and the “n***** police chief.”

      The evil white racists have tagged BHO the,

      “Black mascot of Wall Street Oligarchs and a black puppet of corporate plutocrats. And now he has become head of the American killing machine and is proud of it”.

      The first quote from the supreme racist and hater of Black men the New Black Panther leader, Malik Zulu Shabazz.
      The second from another racist hater of Black men Cornel West of Princeton University.

      What tremendous fun!!!

  • Anonymous

    CAIR Loses IRS Status

    Jewish World Review, by Steven Emerson

    6/23/2011

    Donations to the Council on American-Islamic
    Relations (CAIR) no longer are tax deductible after the organization was among
    275,000 tax-exempt organizations purged earlier this month by the Internal
    Revenue Service. The groups failed to file required annual reports, known as
    form 990s, detailing their revenues and expenses, for three consecutive years.
    CAIR had been a non-profit on its own, but in 2007, the IRS approved a separate
    tax-exempt CAIR Foundation. The foundation never filed any subsequent reports.
    Both the foundation and CAIR national are on the purge list. CAIR has 30 state
    chapters throughout the

  • HELENK

    will meeechele allow Americans to eat this?

    http://www.maniacworld.com/Fried-Kool-Aid.html

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • Anonymous

    BO releases 30M brls of oil from our reserves : another 30 to come from 27 other member states. Who will get this oil? Why now?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/24/business/24oil.html?_r=2&smid=tw-nytimes&seid=auto

    • Anonymous

      Good question….the price of gas is decreasing so lets tap into the reserves.  Why not when prices were sky high.  I think we all know the answer…..barry must make himself look like the savior, no matter what the cost or reasoning.

      I used to think gwb was the anti-christ.  I have changed my mind…..barack hussein obama gets the title.

      “Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”
      http://www.saywhatyouwill.proboards.com

      • Anonymous

        It’s like the recession had bottomed out ,by most accounts, months before the stimulus $$ started down the pike, but he just had to that Obama Stash to “meddle” where he/dems weren’t needed.  

  • Anonymous

    -
    MUST READ:

    A Shrink Asks: What’s Wrong with Obama?

    By Robin of Berkeley
    AmericanThinker

    So what is the matter with Obama? Conservatives have been asking this question for some time. I’ve written a number of articles trying to solve the mystery. Even some liberals are starting to wonder. James Carville railed about Obama’s blasé attitude after the catastrophic oil spill. The New York Times’ Maureen Dowd revamped Obama’s “Yes We Can” motto into “Will We Ever?” The liberal women of the TV show “The View” have expressed sympathy for Michelle Obama’s living with a man so out of touch. Peggy Noonan, hardly a vehement Obama foe, …

    (Read Full Article) http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/06/a_shrink_asks_whats_wrong_with.html

    • Anonymous

      Interesting comments too. I have to go back and finish reading them.

      Thanks, Breeze!

  • Anonymous

    -
    Biden debt talks hit impasse,
    Republicans walk out

    By Richard Cowan and
    Andy Sullivan
    WASHINGTON
    (Reuters)

    – U.S. budget talks hit an impasse on Thursday after a both Republicans walked out, throwing doubt on Washington’s ability to reach a deal that would allow America to continue borrowing and avoid a debt default.Representative Eric Cantor, the No. 2 Republican in the House of Representatives, said participants had identified trillions of dollars in potential spending cuts but were deadlocked over tax increases that Democrats want.”Regardless of the progress that has been made, the tax issue must be resolved before discussions can continue,” he said in a statement.Republican Senator Jon Kyl also left the talks, an aide said.House Speaker John Boehner said Democrats must abandon any tax increases for negotiations to continue.

  • Anonymous

    Obama Blunders on Batteries Badly

    Townhall, by Bob Beauprez    

    6/23/2011

    One of Barack Obama’s favorite fantasies is that
    Americans will soon abandon their SUVs and pick-ups in favor of battery operated
    cars. Implementing energy policies to “boost the price of gasoline to the levels
    in Europe” is part of his overall plan to force us to go green.(snip)But, like
    so much of the hope-and-change agenda, the electric car idea isn’t off to a very
    good start, and new research finds it may not be so green after all
    either.

  • Anonymous

    Electric car maker filesfor bankruptcy protection

    WSBT-TV, by Staff    

    6/23/2011

    The Indiana Business Journal is reporting electric
    car maker THINK, which has a factory in Elkhart, has filed for bankruptcy
    protection. The Journal reports the filing was made in Norway where the company
    is based. THINK opened its factory in Elkhart last year and had hoped to produce
    2,500 cars a year. The first 300 rolled off the assembly line at the end of
    2010.

  • Anonymous

    Business group slamsObama over oil release

    CNN Money, by Charles Riley   

    6/23/2011

    New York – Washington’s most powerful business lobby
    panned the Obama administration’s decision to tap the nation’s strategic oil
    reserve Thursday, calling the move “ill-advised.” “Our reserve is intended to
    address true emergencies, not politically inconvenient high prices,” Karen
    Harbert, CEO of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce Energy Institute, said in a
    statement. (Snip) “Unrest in the Middle East is likely to continue for quite
    some time, so a temporary increase in supply is not a substitute for a long-term
    fix,” she said.

  • Anonymous

    Huntsman Expected toTap Hollywood Support

    Variety,
    by Ted Johnson   
    6/23/2011 

    Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman announced his pursuit
    of the Republican presidential nomination today with the same type of stagecraft used by Ronald Reagan more than 30 years ago: The Statue of Liberty as the backdrop. In the crowd was one of his early supporters from Hollywood, producer Craig Haffner.

    (Snip) But Haffner said that he expected to Huntsman to draw
    support from Hollywood because of his business experience, as well as his grasp of intellectual property issues and the understanding of challenges facing the industry as it tries to find new income streams.

    http://www.wilshireandwashington.com/2011/06/huntsman-expected-to-tap-hollywood-support.html

  • Anonymous

    Michelle Obama Sees PersonalStake in 2012 Election,
    WantsSecond Obama Term

    ABC News, by Devin Dwyer   

    6/23/2011

    First lady Michelle Obama today said her global
    advocacy on behalf of women and young people gives her a personal stake in her
    husband’s re-election, and that she eagerly awaits the coming campaign. “I think
    there’s so much more work to do. We’ve really just begun to lay the foundation,”
    Obama told ABC News’ David Muir in a wide-ranging interview in Cape Town, South
    Africa, where she’s on a weeklong trip to promote youth leadership, education
    and political and cultural exchanges. “I’m passionate about these issues. (Snip)
    So, more time would be helpful.”

    • Anonymous

      FROM THE COMMENTS:

      Posted by: HistoryBuff

      Michelle Obama Sees Personal Stake in 2012 Election,

      You to Continue Picking Up the Tab .Fixed it…

    • Ferd_Berfle

      Mo is so full of herself. I say lock Bo and Mo in a room together and let them yap at each other. Their infernal din is making me deaf.

  • Anonymous

    ABC, NBC Starstruck by
    ‘Patented Michelle (Obama) Power’

    NewsBusters,
    by Alex Fitzsimmons   
    6/23/2011 

    ABC and NBC have delivered fawning coverage of First Lady Michelle Obama’s visit this week to South Africa and Botswana, oozing over the “celebrity” and “excitement” of the “patented Michelle power” on display.

    (Snip) On the June 20 edition of ABC’s “World News,” anchor Diane Sawyer raved:

    “Wherever she travels, she travels with a signature message, hope, health, and laughter for the young…She’s already proven she’s the one person who can modernize any ancient protocol…Seven days, three generations of American women, signaling they’re ready to dance to any song.”

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/alex-fitzsimmons/2011/06/22/abc-nbc-starstruck-patented-michelle-obama-power?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nb+%28NewsBusters.org+-+Exposing+Liberal+Media+Bias%29

    • Anonymous

      FROM THE COMMENTS:

      Posted by: lala
      Modernize any protocol, like patting Queen Elizabeth on
      her booty? She’s nothing more than a wolf in oftentimes bizarre sheep’s
      clothing. ——————————————————————————–

      Posted by: Hobbitmom
      There’s that nod to this creature’s “dancing,” once more.
      While reading the state-run media’s fawning articles over the last few days,
      always lauding the Mooch for her “dancing,” couldn’t help but remember a
      conversation in “Pride and Prejudice” between Sir William Lucas and Mr. Darcy,
      who knows whereof he speaks. From Chapter 6 -” ‘What a charming
      amusement for young people this is, Mr. Darcy! There is nothing like dancing,
      after all. I consider it as one of the first refinements of polished
      societies.’‘Certainly, sir; and it has the advantage also of being in vogue
      amongst the less polished societies of the world; every savage can dance.’ ”

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    The General Motors Management Lie

    Human Events,
    by John Hayward   
    6/23/2011 

    Back in June of 2009, when General Motors went bankrupt – even though billions of tax dollars had been spent to avoid bankruptcy – President Obama declared, “What we are not doing – what I have no interest in doing – is running GM. When a difficult decision has to be made on matters like where to open a new plant, or what type of new car to make, the new GM – not the United States government – will make that decision.”

    (Snip)
    According to Boyle, these emails “show high-ranking Treasury Department officials, including Matthew Feldman of Treasury’s Auto…..

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=44400

    • Anonymous

      Picked up this tidbit:
      ***************
      A federal judge has ruled that Delphi retirees can proceed toward
      trial. The white-collar workers filed a class action suit against the
      Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp., claiming the government insurer violated
      the workers’ constitutional rights by terminating their pension plan.
      The judge in the case refused to dismiss the lawsuit, allowing the case
      to go to trial. Bruce Gump, a retiree from Warren, Ohio, traveled to the
      hearing with roughly 50 other retirees. He said it “was a very good
      day.

      The retirees filed a lawsuit claiming they were denied equal
      protection when the white-collar workers’ pension was taken over by the
      government insurer. Delphi is a former subsidiary of General Motors.
      General Motors struggled through bankruptcy for four years. Delphi was
      seeking to liquidate its assets during the bankruptcy proceedings and
      could not meet its pension obligations. Pension Guaranty agreed to take
      over the pension plan for Delphi’s white-collar workers in April 2009.

      The lawsuit alleges that the Delphi pension plan was 85 percent
      funded and was therefore solvent. The retirees contend that audits
      conducted by 2 independent financial companies show the pension plan was
      not underfunded when it was taken over by Pension Guaranty. The
      non-union retirees are to receive reduced benefits through Pension
      Guaranty.

      During General Motors’ bankruptcy proceedings President Obama’s auto
      task force authorized $4.3 billion to supplement the pensions for
      retired union workers. The union workers therefore would receive their
      full pension. There was no similar supplement offered for the
      white-collar retiree pension plan.

      The salaried, non-union retirees claim that they have a
      constitutional right to equal protection. United States District Court
      Judge Arthur Tarnow refused to dismiss the case. The trial will
      determine whether the white-collar retirees have the right to be treated
      equally to the union retirees in the government’s rescue of General
      Motors.

      Now that the plaintiffs’ case has survived a motion to dismiss, let’s proceed to discovery.

      Subpoenas to GM, anyone?

  • Anonymous

    How European Elites Lost a Generation 

    Speigel Online,
    by Staff    
    6/23/2011

    The European Union is in bad shape. Not only is the common currency in a shambles and the economies of many member states moribund, but young Europeans no longer see how the EU helps them. Millions of them are taking to the streets to demand a future.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,769831,00.html#ref=nlint

  • Anonymous

    Afghanistan drawdown ‘risky’,US joint chiefs head
    says

    BBC News, by Staff

    6/23/2011

    The top US military officer has said President Barack
    Obama’s plan to withdraw troops from Afghanistan is “more aggressive” than he
    had advised. Adm Mike Mullen said leaving troops in place was “the safer
    course”, but said he supported the president’s decision. Secretary of State
    Hillary Clinton said Mr Obama had kept a pledge to begin withdrawals by July
    2011. (Snip) At a House of Representatives committee hearing, Adm Mullen, the
    chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, said Mr Obama’s decisions were “more
    aggressive and incur more risk than I was

  • Anonymous

    JUNE 23, 2011 4:00 A.M.Obama’s America in Black & White Black political segregation, nurtured by the policies of the 1960s, has only hardened in the Obama years.

    Obama is and always has been a hardened, bare-knuckled veteran of the culture wars, who not only pursues racial divisions among Americans for political gain but personifies the stark differences in political attitudes between whites and blacks. It was as obvious in 2008 as it is now that electing a man who describes a sermon containing the passage “white people’s greed runs a world in need” as the formative moment in his spiritual life would guarantee a period of unusual social bitterness and resentment.
    [...]In other words, even though the 2010 census reveals that residential segregation for blacks is at its lowest level ever (the average black lives in a community that is 54 percent nonblack), blacks remain the most politically segregated group. There is indeed no greater predictor of voting patterns than being black — not income, not education level, not marriage status, not age, not religious affiliation, not party affiliation, not profession. Once the voter is known to be black, it can be estimated with roughly 90 percent confidence that he will pull the lever for a Democrat.This is scandalously dehumanizing. Billions of dollars have been spent examining black isolation in residential housing, but almost nothing is said about the equally insidious clustering of blacks on the political left, or the origins of this tendency in degrading public-policy assumptions. America’s political elites surrendered to the notion that racism was so determinative of black success that only a full cadre of special programs, legal exceptions, governmental assistance, and racial preferences could even partially compensate for it. Thus, a new social compact, crafted specifically for blacks and based on government benevolence, was born. “Told repeatedly that they have little chance to succeed in a racist world,” John McWhorter explains in his book Losing the Race, “blacks were and are ripe for collectivist ideas that promise them a better future.”A greater violation of the principles of free will and individual conscience could hardly be imagined. What other group of people is officially assumed by government to have had identical experiences or suffered the same debilitating social rejection? What other group must suffer leaders like Jesse Jackson, who told a Congressional Black Caucus reception in 2009, “You can’t vote against health care and call yourself a black man”?http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/270291/obama-s-america-black-white-seth-forman?page=1

    • Ferd_Berfle

      Spot on. Relations are getting worse primarily because of the left’s myopic focus on race. Who spoke about race in the 2008 GE? The democrats and their black candidate. There wasn’t a peep about it from the right. All I care about is competence and honesty.

  • Anonymous

    Climate of Fear:
    Jim Risenv. the Obama administration

    Salon Magazine,
    by Glenn Greenwald   
    6/23/2011

    The Obama DOJ’s effort to force New York Times investigative journalist Jim Risen to testify in a whistleblower prosecution and
    reveal his source is really remarkable and revealing in several ways; it should be receiving much more attention than it is. On its own, the whistleblower prosecution and accompanying targeting of Risen are pernicious, but more importantly, it underscores the menacing attempt by the Obama administration — as Risen yesterday pointed out — to threaten and intimidate whistleblowers,
    journalists and activists who meaningfully challenge what the government does in secret.

    http://www.salon.com/news/politics/barack_obama/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2011/06/23/risen

  • Anonymous

    Big Media Suicide Compact

    Tribune Media Services, by Cal Thomas

    6/23/2011

    Is there a profit-making business – other than TV
    networks and The New York Times – that so disrespects its audience it works
    overtime to offend them? What other business metaphorically flips the bird to
    those who don’t subscribe to their social, cultural and political worldview?
    That is precisely what big media does to a large number of potential viewers and
    subscribers. Three recent examples: 1) The inexplicable editing of the Pledge of
    Allegiance during the opening of last Sunday’s U.S. Open on NBC; 2) the naming
    of ultra-liberal Norah O’Donnell of MSNBC

  • Anonymous

    NYT’s Friedman Goes Sarcastic on Rush’sClimate Skepticism,
    Confesses to ObamaVote; Anti-Obama Jews Full of ‘Crap’

    NewsBusters, by Clay Waters   

    6/23/2011

    Obama’s pro-Israel critics are talking “pure crap,”
    said New York Times columnist Tom Friedman on PBS host Charlie Rose’s show
    Tuesday night. Rose was hosting a roundtable of Times columnists. Along with
    Friedman there was David Brooks, neo-liberal economics columnist David
    Leonhardt, and Roger Cohen, foreign policy columnist and once a stout defender
    of the authoritarian regime in Iran. As the “conservative,” Brooks mostly agreed
    with the three liberals, calling himself “an admirer of Barack Obama” while
    offering mild criticism

  • Anonymous

    Time magazine cover features shreddedU.S. Constitution, asks
    if it still matters

    Daily Caller [Washington DC], by Jeff
    Poor    

    6/23/2011

    Provocative? Perhaps, but that’s nothing new for Time
    magazine with a history of taking iconic American symbols and using them to make
    political statements. On Thursday on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” Time magazine editor
    Richard Stengel presented the cover of his new July 4 issue, which features the
    U.S. Constitution going through a paper shredder and asks does the document
    still matter.

  • Ferd_Berfle

    Just to be clear–I don’t like Huntsman but if he is nominated I will vote for him. Hell, I would vote for an empty hat thrown in the ring if it ran against That One.

    • Tricia

      Ferd–I am a left-of-center Democrat and I am very interested in him.  Why? Because he is entering for all of the right reasons.  He “gets it” and even though I don’t agree with him on a number of issues, I am looking for an honest person.  So far, he is the only one in that room. 

  • Anonymous

    Picked up this tid bit:
    ************
    A federal judge has ruled that Delphi retirees can proceed toward
    trial. The white-collar workers filed a class action suit against the
    Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp., claiming the government insurer violated
    the workers’ constitutional rights by terminating their pension plan.
    The judge in the case refused to dismiss the lawsuit, allowing the case
    to go to trial. Bruce Gump, a retiree from Warren, Ohio, traveled to the
    hearing with roughly 50 other retirees. He said it “was a very good
    day.

    The retirees filed a lawsuit claiming they were denied equal
    protection when the white-collar workers’ pension was taken over by the
    government insurer. Delphi is a former subsidiary of General Motors.
    General Motors struggled through bankruptcy for four years. Delphi was
    seeking to liquidate its assets during the bankruptcy proceedings and
    could not meet its pension obligations. Pension Guaranty agreed to take
    over the pension plan for Delphi’s white-collar workers in April 2009.

    The lawsuit alleges that the Delphi pension plan was 85 percent
    funded and was therefore solvent. The retirees contend that audits
    conducted by 2 independent financial companies show the pension plan was
    not underfunded when it was taken over by Pension Guaranty. The
    non-union retirees are to receive reduced benefits through Pension
    Guaranty.

    During General Motors’ bankruptcy proceedings President Obama’s auto
    task force authorized $4.3 billion to supplement the pensions for
    retired union workers. The union workers therefore would receive their
    full pension. There was no similar supplement offered for the
    white-collar retiree pension plan.

    The salaried, non-union retirees claim that they have a
    constitutional right to equal protection. United States District Court
    Judge Arthur Tarnow refused to dismiss the case. The trial will
    determine whether the white-collar retirees have the right to be treated
    equally to the union retirees in the government’s rescue of General
    Motors.

    Now that the plaintiffs’ case has survived a motion to dismiss, let’s proceed to discovery.

    Subpoenas to GM, anyone?

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Delta adopts no fly of Jews to Saudi Arabia…
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=314309

  • Anonymous

    Delta adopts no fly of Jews to Saudi Arabia…
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=314309

    • Ferd_Berfle

      Delta seems to be hell bent for leather to go directly into the crapper.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    I don’t get the “cute part.

    Such grace, elegance and poise –NOT!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYHQxrJsZ0w&feature=player_embedded

  • HELENK

    Do I understand this correctly? backtrack restricted and stopped the drilling for oil in this country, but released oil today from the emergency reserve. Is that the same as quitting your job and living off you savings? Does not sound like a good fiscal  policy to me.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE , MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • Anonymous

    Someone referred to this as her “Jack Palance” moment.  Unbecoming a FLOTUS–really.
     http://www.politico.com/blogs/click/0611/In_Africa_first_lady_does_pushups.html

  • Anonymous

    He’s still seeing dead people. What an embarrassment.
    http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/23/obama-flubs-on-medal-of-honor-recipient/

  • Anonymous

    He’s still seeing dead people. What an embarrassment.
    http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/23/obama-flubs-on-medal-of-honor-recipient/

  • Anonymous

    CAIR Appealing to IRS After
    Tax-Exempt Status Revoked

    Fox News,
    by Judson Berger   
    6/23/2011

    The largest Muslim advocacy group in the country plans to appeal to the IRS to regain its tax-exempt status after that status was
    revoked over an apparent problem with its paperwork. The Council on American-Islamic Relations, as well as the offshoot CAIR Foundation, was included earlier this month on a massive list of 275,000 organizations that the IRS said were losing their tax-exempt status because they did not file required annual reports. Most of the groups on that list are presumed to be defunct, but CAIR is not — its website continues to solicit “tax-deductible” donations.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/23/cair-stripped-tax-exempt-status-by-irs/?test=latestnews

  • Anonymous

    Geithner: Taxes on ‘Small Business’ MustRise So Government
    Doesn’t ‘Shrink’

    Cybercast News Service, by Terence P.
    Jeffrey    

    6/23/2011

    Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner told the House
    Small Business Committee on Wednesday that the Obama administration believes
    taxes on small business must increase so the administration does not have to
    “shrink the overall size of government programs.” The administration’s plan to
    raise the tax rate on small businesses is part of its plan to raise taxes on all
    Americans who make more than $250,000 per year—including businesses that file
    taxes the same way individuals and families do. Geithner’s explanation of the
    administration’s small-business tax plan came in an exchange with first-term
    Rep. Renee Ellmers (R.-N.C.).

  • Anonymous

    House Dems Applaud Obama for TappingStrategic Petroleum
    Reserve, BoehnerSays Move Threatens National Security

    ABC News, by John R. Parkinson   

    6/23/2011

    As the White House announced today that it will
    release 30 million barrels of oil from the nation’s strategic petroleum reserve,
    House Democrats applauded the president’s decision as one that will bring down
    the price of gasoline, while nation’s top Republican said the move “threatens
    our ability to respond to a genuine national security crisis” and puts a new
    burden on the American taxpayer to refill the reserve. “I am pleased that the
    Obama administration has answered our call today by making an historic
    announcement,” Rep. Edward Markey, D-Mass., said.

  • Anonymous

    I was duped by Jose Vargas,illegal immigrant

    San Francisco Chronicle, by Phil
    Bronstein   

    6/23/2011

    I was duped. I once hired an illegal immigrant to be
    a reporter for the Chronicle. “I don’t think I’m a criminal,” Jose Antonio
    Vargas told me when we met last week, right before he announced his status to
    the world. “Don’t make me seem guiltier than I am.” Jose lied to me and everyone
    else he worked for, and that’s not kosher, especially in a profession where
    facts and, more elusively, the truth are considered valuable commodities.

  • Anonymous

    Yo, Cenk:
    If Ryan’s 26%Unfavorable Rating
    ‘Disastrous’ What’s Pelosi’s 63%?

    Newsbusters,
    by Mark Finkelstein   
    6/23/2011

    And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? — Matthew
    7:4- On a somewhat slow Thursday night, let’s have a good chuckle. On his MSNBC show this evening, Cenk Uygur jumped on a poll showing Paul Ryan with a 26% unfavorability rating to declare that America “can’t stand” the Wisconsin congressman and that the 26% unfavorable rating is “disastrous.” Question for
    Cenk: if a 26% unfavorable rating is that bad, how would you describe Nancy Pelosi’s unfavorable rating of . . . 63%?

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2011/06/23/yo-cenk-if-ryans-26-unfavorable-rating-disastrous-whats-pelosis-63