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Senator McCain, Have You No Decency? [Updated] [Update Part Deux]

(bumped up by NoQuarter from noon ET)

John McCain’s continued silence in the face of a campaign of smears against his running mate, Sarah Palin, is troubling on several levels. By his silence, he is endorsing those attacks. Let’s just assume for the sake of argument that the lies about Sarah Palin are true. THEN WHO IN THE HELL SELECTED AN UNQUALIFIED WOMAN TO RUN AS HIS VICE PRESIDENT CANDIDATE? If McCain lets these attacks stand unchallenged he is demonstrating once and for all that he was completely and totally unqualified to be President. He lacked the judgment and intelligence required when it came to selecting people for key positions. So that is one possibility. John McCain is simply incompetent.

There is evidence of McCain’s incompetence. I got this note last night from a friend who was a big fundraiser for McCain.

Hi larry
I was going to call you
I was distraught… I never cry
And I cried on and off for 2 days!!!
I worked so hard and raised so much money
And brought so many in to the fold
And alas I was just tilting at windmills.

But I knew all was not well long ago
The campaign was lacking in every single way
Small and big. Down to the smallest detail
The campaign was frustrating and fell short.
There was no infrastructure or communication
And systemically they were not any match for the flawless and seamless campaign of Obama.
And you are so right about the vile treatment of Gov. Palin.
She was the only bright star in all this menagerie of fools.
She was authentic and maybe not prepared for all that was thrust her way, but whose fault is that?
The only hope I have for BO, is that he is so ambitious that he will run to the center and, hopefully, not alienate 80 percent of Americans who do not regard themselves as liberals.
Of course, the change he touted is a mirage, he surrounded himself with the Clinton people.

My fundraiser friend correctly notes that the McCain campaign failed, completely, to put in place a system to reach out to voters, to contact voters, and to return phone calls. So there is an organizational incompetence to the McCain campaign.

But I think that is the real reason why the attacks are being levied on Sarah Palin. Rather than accept responsibility for their own fuck ups, the Republican consultants who presided over the electoral disaster want to shift the blame to Sarah. But it is more than that. They are scared shitless about the woman’s uncompromising principles when it comes to cracking down on insider dealing and ending the gravy train of favors for Washington lobbyists. As she moved around the country she was able to observe the best and the worst the Republican party had to offer. A woman who fearlessly took on the corrupt Ted Stevens faction of the Republican Party also has the balls to do the same to the national Republican Party.

John McCain’s silence is stunning. He always spoke up quickly and pointedly to bat down comments he felt were smears of Barack Obama. Remember when the one lady at a campaign event started talking about Barack being a Muslim? McCain shut that down and immediately praised Obama as “a good man.”

Now we face the spectacle of seeing the woman who changed the dynamic of the McCain campaign for the good being trashed by anonymous sources as a brainless bimbo. It is sexist and it is a bald-faced lie. If John McCain remains silent then we are learning that his status as a hero and a man of principle are hollow, empty claims. He is demonstrating that he lacks the character and integrity required of someone to be President. Maybe the criticisms of some who were jailed with McCain–who claimed McCain was a self-seeker who sold them out–are true. We will find out in the coming days. Where are you Senator McCain?

McCain may have been a hero in Hanoi, but when it comes to his treatment of Palin, he is looking like a coward.

UPDATE–Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy, true to her name, offers this important point of view:

…One of our readers mentioned that Palin and McCain may very well have discussed this whole post-election attack on her. Their take was that they decided to let Palin handle it instead of having “Daddy” come to her rescue. That she needs to prove she can stand up to these kinds of offensive attacks on her own, especially if she IS going to run for prez in 2012. Just a thought, but it seems plausible enough to me. And I say that because he seemed to GENUINELY like her. I think if she WANTED or NEEDED for him to stand up, he would. But it is more empowering for her, and women, for her to take care of these male sleazeballs herself. Know what I mean?

Let me be clear where I am coming from. I agree with Amy that Sarah is quite capable of defending herself. But in the face of a massive media onslaught, where they are helping spread these lies (e.g., Fox News was helping lead the pack with Carl Cameron as drum major), McCain just needs to come out and make a simple statement–”Unnamed sources lying about my friend and vice-presidential nominee, are hurting our party and unfairly attacking in the most cowardly fashion a proven leader. Governor Palin is quite capable of defending herself. But an ambush from people who supposedly worked for me is wrong and I reject it.”

If McCain does that then I retract every question about his character and integrity. But so far the silence is deafening.

Part Deux Update–This from Politico is heartening. At least some on the McCain campaign get it:

The Republicans who worked most closely with Palin — the ones who were with her from when she first walked into that swooning Ohio basketball arena in August until she walked off the stage after McCain’s concession speech in Phoenix Tuesday — are now having their say in that conversation.

And they want it known that they’re sick of Sarah Palin being dragged through the mud.

“It’s depressing,” said Steve Biegun, a veteran foreign policy hand who tutored and staffed Palin and traveled with her through the fall. “We worked our asses off. It was a tough campaign. Then we have this?”

Biegun emphatically made the case for his much-maligned former boss.

“I think she was fantastic. She just brought a special energy to our ticket. Look, I was there at those rallies.”

Adds another former campaign aide: “You know what she did for us. She certainly solidified a hell of a lot of [previously unenthused Republicans].”

Without question, Palin offered McCain a boost of energy that he’d lacked since winning his party’s nomination. She gave the party’s base something to be excited about, nearly overnight drawing wildly enthusiastic crowds, more grassroots volunteers and a spike in small-dollar fundraising.

  • http://www.deathofthedemocraticparty.com xax

    Whoa. Harsh.

    But you’re right. He needs to come to her defense. If he doesn’t…. well then I guess we’ll know where he stands.

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ Not Your sweetie

    I wonder about all this.
    What do you want of him? (Obama) The first of many…
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/what-do-you-want-from-him/

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    OK…a few thoughts here…

    1. I don’t think it is true that the McCain campaign was as disorganized as charged. I stopped by the office here in West LA, I was on their mailing lists – they were calling people, reaching out, doing what they needed to do.

    I believe it would have taken Jesus Christ on the Republican side to beat a Democrat this year after the financial meltdown. So I wish people would stop trying to blame McCain or his campaign for what was the failure of Bush.

    2. McCain staffers have already come out to debunk the smears and McCain himself may feel if he brings it up, he is only legitimizing them more. I do not feel he needs to say anything when there are already people going to bat for her.

    Let’s get some perspective here. I like McCain and I don’t think we need to try to stop the Palin bashing by turning it into McCain bashing.

  • Jules

    They are scared shitless about the woman’s uncompromising principles when it comes to cracking down on insider dealing and ending the gravy train of favors for Washington lobbyists

    That is the exact reason why I admire her. However I am concerned that she has been smeared so badly that she won’t recover politically. I hope I will be proven wrong.

  • wodiej

    Excuse me Larry, but why are we now dumping on McCain after all the dishonest bullshit Obama did? I have also learned that McCain has spoken with Sarah Palin about these attacks and is upset about it. Why he is not speaking, I don’t know and neither does anyone else except probably those two and close associates. Maybe McCain doesn’t want to keep the fire stoked by drawing more attention to it. If he responds emphatically then that will hit the papers again and Palin will get trashed all over again. Perhaps he just thinks she has been through enough!

    As for McCain’s campaign, none are perfect. One campaign worker wrote to you and complained but she doesn’t denote if she got off her butt and tried to address this with anyone or do anything proactive about it. She is complaining NOW when it doesn’t matter? Obama outraised McCain 8 to 1. Of course Obama’s campaign did better, he had money!! He went back on his word about public financing. He employed Acorn to register voters fraudelenty and took illegal donations. So much for McCain trying to be honest. Now he is getting shit on some more.

  • workingclass artist

    Hmmmm…Interesting turn Larry…Provacative fo sure….

  • Tom657

    Lary likes to vary who he smears and dumps on.

    Semper B.S.is his credo.

  • johninca

    I appreciate what LCJ is trying to do here. But the only thing that will make any difference is if Republicans win a landslide in 2010 to check Obama’s power. That is what matters. I say that as someone who is not even a Republican myself.

  • Tom657

    Larry likes to vary who he smears and dumps on.

    Semper B.S.is his credo.

  • http://NoQuarterUSA.net Larry Johnson

    wodiej,
    We are not giving Obama a pass, but McCain needs to speak up and speak up now. He didn’t keep his mouth shut when Obama was attacked. So if he will have no qualms about publicly–and the key word is PUBLICLY–defending his political opponent he better do the same for the woman he chose to be his VP candidate.

  • csuzeq

    Ok. I don’t want to do the trash McCain game now. BHO is POTUS and deserves potshots against him when he fucks up as he surely will, but we need to end the trashing of good people who were outspent, unsupported by the people they should have been able to count on and couldn’t get his message out. We trust the MSM now? did it ever occur to you that maybe Mccain has put out statements and they will not be reported? I haven’t seen Hillary yet either and I am sure in the hopes of those with CDS, we won’t. It’s all BHO now, all the time and let’s let it reast in trashing good people. John McCain, Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin are true Americans. People should also look at Michelle Bachman, Senator from MN who is being savagely trashed because she thought we should have congressional hearings about the UnAmerican views of Barack Obama and that the congress seems to now be adopting. She still won the election thank God, but of course now everyone is calling her mentally ill, etc., and saying that she had to have cheated. She won by a large margin. Let’s stop attacking the only people who we might need to call on to help us. Seriously, I don’t know what Mccain could have done when the media was one big Obama infomercial.

  • galsforhill

    stop

  • imustprotest

    I know he defended her during the campaign. I saw interviews where he did that. Wondering about the silence now too. Has anyone interviewed him? If not, I guess he could call a press conference.

  • I Will Remember In November!

    you guys have to realized that there are no “good” decent politicans. Sarah is the closest to such an animal ONLY because she has been to far from Washington DC and has not had to bathe in the filthy waters of the potomac. Listen, if Sarah becomes the de facto leader of the republican party it will not be long until she is just another dirty politican.

    Look how we were soooo upset with Obama calling the clintons racist and hillary being smacked down and marginalize and ignored by obama yet she campaigns for him. Hillary knows how to play the game. WE get upset she gets the power she wants and we get NOTHING.

    If John MCcain had put “country first” the whitey video and La times video would have eliminated OBama in the primaries before the KOOLaide took hold of the MSM and everyone else. Mccain would have prefer Hillary over Obama if he felt she was better for the country. Mccain is concerned with Mccain PERIOD. He could care less what is being done to Sarah. If he does defend her, you can bet it will be in HIS best interest not the country or his party.

    Despite the way Obama has win the presidency, I am praying and hoping he does well. If it wasn’t for the fact the MSM and DNC picked the president of the US and not the people, I would actually feel good that Obama win. I feel that is was more important to push back the mSM and DNC initative to pick our president more important than putting a new party in the white house–I guess 62million other americans felt otherwise. Well, I tried.

    I will watch the inagural with some pride and delight. It will be a powerful imagine of Obama and his family getting sworn in by the Chief Justice Roberts. I will make sure my kids watch this historical event.

    You guys need to grow up and realized that the only good guys in politics are the American people. Only thing is we are too ignorant, stupid, and gullible to realize it.

    Dont love any politican-including Hillary, Obama, Sarah and Mccain just love your country.

  • csuzeq

    You have to consider that when McCain was outspent 8 to 1, he did pretty well in the end.

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    Sorry Larry, I disagree. This election was fixed and stolen. McCain should be President and I bet if we did recounts in battleground states we would see something really interesting. I can’t take the McCain bashing. The DEMS cheated, lied, and bought the election for the most DANGEROUS America hating piece of crap in our history. Gird your loins? Yeah, because he doesn’t give a damn about us. He hates us. He’s going to sit on his azz, blame Bush for the four years he will waste doing nothing, and then run in 1

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    sorry “run in ’12.”

  • Hillraiser429

    I have a problem with the entire GOP. How can I justify voting again for a party that throws its own CANDIDATES under the bus? As a voter, they would run over MY prone corpse repeatedly. I’d have enough thread marks to pass for a racetrack.

  • benny

    Larry, I strongly disagree with you. firstly, just because McCain lost, everyone is piling on saying that he didn’t run a good campaign. The fact is that Obama won, due to the anti-bush feelings among the people.

    Secondly, McCain is not running for president anymore. Palin can stand up to whatever accusations by herself. Why should McCain interfere in this? If McCain does make statements regarding this, its like a woman needs a man to stand by and protect her. Thats not a stereotype we want to promote.

  • georgiapeach

    In both the Alaska Bob and Mark radio interview, and the the interview with the Alaska press when she went back to work, she mentioned talking to John McCain about it. And she still spoke admiringly of him in both instances. I’m going to withhold judgement on this until I see what she has to say about it in her interview with Greta tomorrow night.

  • Tuppence411

    I am not looking for John McCain to defend Governor Palin. She can defend herself. She doesn’t need a surrogate “daddy” to stand up for her.

    What I do expect and demand from McCain is some of his vaulted “straight talk”. Stand up and tell it like it is- Sarah is being attacked from within the Republican Party, by a small but vocal fraction that fear her rise in the national stage. Period. The same exact battle that was launched against him. The same exact war he fought against through out his career. WTF John, don’t turn your back and leave a fellow soldier on the field alone.

  • TriciaNC

    WAIT!

    Although I agree Mac should come out for Sarah, Fox and I think it was ABC was reporting it was the Dems attacking Sarah, NOT the Repubs. They said it is a rumor by other networks that it is the staff doing it.

    The Dems are trying to destroy her as they’ve got her down, now they want to crush her. They want to ensure she doesn’t run again.

  • pal3

    McCain is a fraud…just like Obama.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    Hillary recovered from a lot of smears as well in order to win the primary vote. Palin is a lot more “likable” than Hillary and only the most rabid partisans hate her, so I think she will be fine.

  • Andy

    Larry J’s post is perhaps a bit too harsh, I agree.
    McCain bowed to Palin in his concession speech and set her ip as the future of the party. He could have just thank her but he did a bit more.
    On the other hand, I do believe McCain should have put out a statement saying this was complete nonsense and should have harshly reigned in or if not outed whoever is cowardly trashing Palin. His silence is deafening.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    I have a theory that there aren’t real people who have said these things, but that the initial journalist (or journalists) reporting them made them up. My thoughts here:

    http://hillaryorbust.com/2008/11/make-believe-journalism-bashing-sarah-palin/

  • hadenough

    I think along with whatever competence mccian has or not he was abandoned by the gop.

    Mind reading: The gop leadership, whoever that is, threw the towel in early for the 2008 election. They would rather have a giant fuck up like obama take the hits for trying to clean up the mess they made than have a republican be blamed for the extremely hard times to come.

  • workingclass artist

    Maybe he’s just takin a break…and Palin can take care of herself…sheeesh! She doesn’t need a knight on a charger…No sireee! You Betcha!

  • notrees

    There is the possibility that McCain has defended Sarah Palin but it isn’t gettinh any press.

  • workingclass artist

    the democrats did the same thing when WJC was impeached…lol…This is posturing pure and simple with the obvious attendant motives…sheeesh!

  • workingclass artist

    Why would McCain stoop so low as to argue with juveniles…and that is all this is…Juvenile bickering…Gov. Palin can take care of herself…

  • benny

    no, to me, McCain is perfectly honourable. And he should not interfere in whats happening now that hes out of the race. Does a woman need a man to defend her? sorry, I dont buy into that stereotype. Palin can defend herself.

  • Andy

    benny:

    If McCain does make statements regarding this, its like a woman needs a man to stand by and protect her. Thats not a stereotype we want to promote.

    you have a good point here; I agree. But there were ways for him to crush these lies. He could have quickly put out a note discrediting the “anonymous sources” (ie. focus on the anonymous jerk) and let Palin defend herself for example. In that way he says: look whoever is maliciously putting this trash out is a coward, this is BS and out or threaten to that person.
    And then leave the stage to Palin for the details.

    There are ways of doing this without undermining Palin. His silence in itself comes dangerously close to undermining her.

  • hi

    Rather than discussing this issue internally why don’t we all send McCain an email and ask him why he has kept silence on this issue?
    I just don’t see any point of talking about issues but not taking any actions.

  • scorbs

    One thing that might help is having McCain explain why he selected Palin. The critics are suggesting that someone else was better. But who would that be? Pawlenty? Mitt Romney? Wouldn’t each of those also been vulnerable and under seige by the press who wanted to elect Obama?

  • VRWC – Aftermath Dept.

    Larry may be overdoing it but I sympathize with his instincts.

    If McCain swats down the smears, then he swats down the smearers. And the smearers could respond with dirt (genuine and fake) about the campaign. Maybe McCain is walking a tightrope, trying to keep the GOP from conflagration.

    I’m pretty second-rate as a VRWCer. There seems to be some sort of battle in the GOP between an old elite and the “flyover” folks, but I know little if anything about it first-hand. Anyway, maybe this is part of it.

    Maybe presidential campaigns should prepare a “decompression program” for higher-ups in case of election loss, so that such folks don’t just spin out of control.

    On the other hand, if as commenter TriciaNC says, the rumors actually being planted by Dems or the Dem media, then there’s no reason for McCain to hold back.

  • Tuppence411

    The Dems are keeping Palin trashing in the news because they don’t want the “Eye of Mordor” turning it’s attention to Barky- and the voter fraud, his cabinet picks,etc….. Keep the public distracted with shiny objects like we are all Homer Simpson or something.

    The elite-fraction of Republican Party is who Sarah needs to push back hard against. They are undermining her. Turning her into a caricture.

  • http://investigatebarackobama.blogspot.com/ kat in your hat

    Yes, all this media attention is to try to harm Palin’s career and distract the USA.

    Palin is also a huge ratings booster, and she proved it on SNL and ABC and Hannity, etc. Best ratings in years–over a decade. SO, Palin = ratings.

    The other thing is that the media IS Obama-Media, and they are doing what they do best: causing a distraction, not vetting Obama or looking at Obama critically. The Obama camp will be desperate to distract the USA long enough for him to step into the WH, and then that’s that. Their fear of course, is that more shit will come out about him, or that policies and lies will be critically analyzed.

    Also,
    The McCain camp was partially controlled by the Obama camp. When they demanded Palin get more TV time, the media started screaming for more media time as well. The McCain camp fell for it and threw her to two interviews without any protection: practically an unlimited time and full power of editing. Palin should have been out there more, but it was poor planning.

    Then there were probably some demoralizing moles in the McCain camp. Ones who did a very shitty job with oppo research, ones who likely filled McCain’s ears with doubt, and there were a few saboteurs in there. For sure. I can give lots of examples.

    **I wish people would now realize that the Obama camp wants us all angry and talking about Palin. They are terrified of being stopped before January.

  • notrees

    The radicals ahve always tried to take advantage of any national trauma. The only difference this time is they won and EVERYBODY else has lost. I just hope America comes up with a viable third party to beat both the republican and the dem (socialist)parties.

  • scorbs

    The Repub model of governing seems to be head honcho and everyone falls in line. An imperial presidency. Top dog, everyone looks to. The Dem model is more consensus, group oriented, so it’s unlikely — I’m hoping — that a dilettante can emerge or that a leftish obama can force the country that way.

  • pal3

    if he is an ARAB, then we have elected the anti-christ.

  • imustprotest

    Are you serious??? All you are doing is proving the rumors that this is a hit job by scumbags like Romney because she was so good! The good old boys are scared of the CUDA!

  • http://www.TheOtherDemocrats.com Florida Ex-Dem

    If nothing else, he needs to lay into the ‘anonymous’ sources from inside his campaign. That is the worst of it – a bunch of jealous, career campaign organizers with no place to go. These are people who stay behind the scenes, keep a low profile so as not to be blamed for bad choices, then when someone does something RIGHT that they had no hand in, they’re jealous and petty.

    Gosh, our election system needs to be totally revamped. ONLY public financing. NO private funding. Voter rolls checked against national data bases (such as SS, even tho that’s not perfect). I’m even thinking that the presidential election needs to be run by a national entity, not states.

    Of course, you’d have to have a strong group go for that legislation and I can’t imagine one single person in Congress now or upcoming, and certainly not the upcoming POTUS supporting this. The system is corrupt and they feed at this corrupt trough.

  • csam

    The only reason McCain should say something, is not in defense of Gov. Palin, but in defense of the GOP. This back-biting is hurting the party’s image, as if it doesn’t already have a tarnished reputation.

    I’ve heard and seen interviews with Gov. Palin these past few days, and she’s doing a great job in defending herself and calling out the cowards. She also said she has been in contact with John McCain and they are both baffled and at a loss as to how to respond when the sources are anonymous. She said she loves John and has no ill feelings towards him at all.

    So, yes, she can handle this herself. However, I think Mac should tell the party to grow up if they want to have any credibility in the future. And if he doesn’t, than Palin should.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    That’s the sexism right there for you, shown in statistics.

  • pal3

    Why are you still bashing her? Your messiah won. why waste time here…shouldn’t you go pray to him

  • jean breban

    that is absolutely true

    the Obots only want to silence everybody else

  • http://www.TheOtherDemocrats.com Florida Ex-Dem

    I visited our local Republican office and it was pretty weak. The head of the county Dem party was in there at the time, chewing the fat. Ugh.

    I had one phone call from McCain people in all these months. I’d signed up for the website and got very few emails til the past few weeks.

    I was still getting sometimes 3 emails a day from the Oborg organization.

    So, while I know McCain didn’t have the funds, and perhaps that’s the reason for this, I felt they weren’t making the huge attempt to reach their loyal and the uncommitted.

  • Bob

    Larry throws McCain under the bus. :)

  • notrees

    Please don’t insult the ant-christ

  • http://investigatebarackobama.blogspot.com/ kat in your hat

    Ya, maybe we will call it: The American Party.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    Don’t know why my other comment is not being posted, but the short version is, I have a high IQ and could not name you one Supreme Court decision other than Roe v. Wade and Brown v. Education or whatever the hell it was that got blacks out of segregated schools.

    Memorization of facts does not equal smarts.

  • Tuppence411

    Of course she can defend herself. What McCain can and should do is put it all in context- infighting within the Republican Party.

    Weren’t we as equally pissed-off when the DNC failed to acknowledge the division within the Democratic party?

  • http://investigatebarackobama.blogspot.com/ kat in your hat

    Andrew, that is not the point.

    She is gone. That’s over. The media is still obsessing, and there is no point to it except for what I wrote.

  • imustprotest

    Untrue, Palin energized the base. This is cute jerk, but not believable. Your attempt to rewrite history is very “Obamalike”

  • csuzeq

    I doubt we’ll hear or see much about Hillary, John or Sarah soon. They want us to forget they exist. I won’t forget. I plan to email them and write letters begging for their help.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    First off, the interviews were edited mercilessly. Secondly, those interviews did not make me think she is unqualified – you are obviously a mindless partisan who can’t think for yourself and will come up with any reason to bash the opposition. Not to mention you are a sexist hater of women.

  • imustprotest

    Enough misogyny Andrew! We are not taking it anymore, got it punk?

  • benny

    yeah, I expect the anti-christ to be build like arnie, not skinny obama. :)

  • wodiej

    you claim to love your country and you will watch Obama the sleaxe being inaugurated with pride and delight? What in your mind is historical about this-that the first part black person became president by cheating, illegal donations, intimidation, sexism, fraud? And your letting your kids watch it too?

  • Revelation

    Don’t expect competence from John McCain. He threw away on Septemebr 24 any chance of winning he had by his “suspension” stunt that made him look erratic and tied his fate to the bailout.

  • Typewriterstreaming

    This just pisses me off even more. I agree and have been thinking this for days. I appreciate Rev.Amy’s take, but at this point after having been shite on by just about every other one with two legs since the Primaries, its yet another complete outrage. McCain better step up, I don’t care if Sarah thinks she should do this alone – he choose her- he picked these turncoats. He’s not off the hook. If he does nothing this week I am writing him daily. I would really appreciate someone besides Sarah Palin having a bit of integrity. Freaks. This Country is populated by too many Freaks.
    and… does anyone suspect this is the Obama camps handiwork?? The Republican should be doing a heck of a lot work in preparation for what is coming. Nice side track. I smell trolls.

  • hi

    But Obama with zero executive experience, very little legislative experience and radical associations, is qualified to be the next president?
    If the exit polls are correct then I feel sorry for these stupid people who live in this country!!

  • sharonevolving

    Hey ya’ll… Sarah is a big girl, and if we want her to run for POTUS in 2012, then let her stand up and deal with this. HRC certainly did, over and over again. I don’t think McCain is responsible for the trashing, nor do I think he needs to fix it. The press is loving any chance to bury Sarah alive. Nothing like a stereotype breaker to get the press all defensive, and she certainly doesn’t conform to any norms previously established for Republicans. McCain might be thinking, crap, if I do come out and say something, this will keep the darned story alive a few more days, and it will likely twist to ‘the little lady can’t defend herself’…see how we’re getting entrenched into a yucky patriarchal narrative trap here? John and Sarah were a breath of fresh air, and the fact that they pulled 46% of the popular vote against The Messiah impresses me immensely. Let’s put this one to bed. We should be screaming at the press “DROP IT ALREADY” instead of at McCain.

  • imustprotest

    ANDREW!! WE DON’T CARE WHAT YOU THINK!!! I KNOW IT’S HARD FOR A MISOGYNIST PIG LIKE YOU AND YOUR KOOLAID CULT FRIENDS TO GET THIS…..YOU THINK BECAUSE YOU’RE A MAN YOUR STUPID OPINION MATTERS MORE??? WTF! GET LOST SCUMBAG.

  • notrees

    Which is the worse? Palin saying Africa was a nation or Obama wanting to be the president of a nation of which he had no idea of how many states he would be the president of?

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    So Andrew, do you have a girlfriend or do you spend lonely nights at home watching porn and growing your seething hatred of women because a real woman wouldn’t touch you with a 10-foot pole?

  • Grrrr

    I concur w/ Larry. It was a collaborative effort. All who is somebody needs to get up off it and start speaking out in Gov. Palin’s defense.
    The same thing happened to Hillary. She spoke up in her own defense and was chastised for it. But, no one else was doing it for her.
    It wasn’t until the Sunday before the last primary when loser Dean finally spoke out in Hillary’s defense.
    I do, however, remember an interview w/ Gov. Palin where she basically called Hillary a whiner for standing up for herself.

  • imustprotest

    Don’t forget he thought the Great Lakes were in Oregon and that only one bomb dropped on Pearl Harbor, among other things.

  • Tuppence411

    Yes, let’s not confuse our end time prophecies.
    Barky is not the Beast or the Antichrist, he is the “False Prophet”.

  • wodiej

    those polls only prove one thing, ignorance rules the world.

  • John Smith

    I am a democrat and I went down to the Republican office in my town after I could not get anyone on the phone . I walked into the receptionist area and I stood there for about 5 minutes at which point I asked someone if I could talk to anyone. They told me to go into the room where people were making calls. So I did. I stood there for an other 5 minutes but nobody was paying attention that I was even there. Then I got a phone call on my cell and had to go outside. After I was done with the phone call I could still not get anybody to help me to help them and I left. Now if the rest of the offices were run like this then I know why the GOB lost.

    How could a new face walk in and nobody even asks him why he was there.

    However, don’t worry about Sara she will take care of her self. I agree with the fact that she can’t have McCain out there trying to defend her. In matter of days the stories about her will fade away as something new comes up. She will be back in 2012 and then we will see a campaign and vision that will be worth fighting for. This one was just to little to late.

  • csam

    With all due respect, Republicans are not going to take advice from someone who is not a Republican. The fact is, 91% of Republicans felt she was qualified and she was the reason they voted for the ticket.

    Republicans lost because fiscal conservative stayed home; they stayed home because Mac backed the bailout. The final numbers were 39% Dem and 32% Republicans; in 2004, it was 37% Dems and 37% Republicans – dead even.

    Obama only increased Dem turnout by 2%; not huge. If the fiscal conservative Republicans had turned out, the outcome would be different. They didn’t turn out because of Mac, not because of Gov. Palin. In fact, she increased Evangelical turnout from 2004 by 2%. She did her job – Mac didn’t deliver.

    Should she be the nominee in 2012, she will get the social conservatives, the fiscal conservatives and the hawks, because her record proves that she governs in a fiscal conservative manner. She’ll improve on that 32% turnout and she’ll be a more forceful contender for Obama.

    If Obama governs like a centrist or to the right, he’ll most likely win a re-election. If he stumbles in foreign policy and enacts liberal or leftist economic policies, he will be a one-term President.

  • benny

    you’re absolutely right. everyone wants to revert back to the stereotype of the man protecting the woman. Even if it is done covertly, its not right. Gov. Palin will take on her accusers. period.

  • imustprotest

    Obama = US has 57 states.

  • Tuppence411

    Oh look! Andrew is waving a shiny object in a feeble attempt to distract our attention away from his Messiah’s voter fraud and f@ck-up cabinet selections!

  • benny

    an obot is an obot.

  • Texas Playwright

    In Sarah’s interview in the AK Governer’s office on Friday, I think, she said she and McCain talked about the media trash talk. If she asked him to comment on these jackals, he would. I think Sarah can handle this herself. I also think a strong grassroots organizationf for Sarah will help. Adopt the masterful campaign strategies of Axelrod and co WITHOUT the cheating, stealing, lying and bullying and build critical mass for Sarah now.

  • benny

    knowledgeable like obama? grow up, kid. lol

  • pal3

    Palin might not be qualified for VP but at least she isn’t corrupt. With her at least we still a have chance, with Obama we have no chance.
    I rather chose someone who is less qualified but a quick leaner, then someone who is supposely intelligent but corrupt. All he’s going do is used his “intelligent” to manupulate the press and american people and try to institute a socialist agenda.

  • rw

    Do you think that whomever has that tape, or a copy of it, will release it willy nilly? Don’t think so….that is a sword that will keep Barki with his back to the wall, it is a tool that will be used for pretty powerful leveraging. His sugar daddy and the tape holder rule him.

    Imagine, Barki, the first AA president, with throngs that have pinned their hopes on him (his doing)….and then a rant against whitey.

  • HARP

    Alaska may secede from the Union and become a Canadian province. That would be the last laugh on the lower 48

  • pm317

    Larry, you’re on the right track. Palin can take care of herself (like Rev. Amy would say) but this is starting to hurt McCain also. I made the mistake of listening to that fruitcake Campbell on CNN — she thought she was very clever at the way she framed her PoV. This is what she said — at first she gave the impression that she agreed with that these nameless sources were wrong and are spreading falsehoods and that it is also sexist. and then she took a detour into how if everything they are saying is true, then they were the ones who picked her and they were the ones who vetted her. She questioned then that are they saying they didn’t vet her. And then with a very self satisfied attitude she went into how it was a last minute decision to pick her and how the vetting for the most qualified candidate was not done as if that were a known fact. Disgusting and despicable. So McCain should come out and defend his own VP candidate choice and his vetting process to pick the best qualified candidate.

  • SFIndiePUMA

    Yep, everyone will give him a pass because “look at what he inherited from 8 years of Bush, no one could have accomplished anything, he needs another 4 years to really put into place all the hopey changey crap policies that will save the world.”

    He’ll run unopposed by any Democrat, so it’ll be interesting to see who the Repubs start grooming for the 2012 run.

  • notrees

    Any one–woman or man, that can govern Alaska, I am sure is quite capable of defending herself/himself. I lived in Kenai and there wasn’t even a police liveing in the area. Alaska is no place for a candy ass and Palin is no candy ass either, she is the governor of one helluva rough state–bar-none.

  • Ks Girl

    {I will watch the inagural with some pride and delight. It will be a powerful imagine of Obama and his family getting sworn in by the Chief Justice Roberts. I will make sure my kids watch this historical event.}

    YOU must have drank the kool-aide.

    What is prideful and delightful about a selected presidency where as the selection was bought, fraud was rampant and the media was a propaganda agent for the selected candidate?

    I WILL NOT watch this farce and my children and grandchildren will be told the truth about this selection….

    The propaganda swayed American people will know in due time too…

  • imustprotest

    Hahahahahaha!!! Struck a nerve with this fool Hillary or Bust! You little pig go back to Obama land will you, you’re stinking the place up with your filth.

  • Winston

    I agree with Larry. Not too harsh. This silence on McCains part is doing irrevocable damage to Governor Palin. He needs to respond to change the narrative and stop the bleeding.

  • getfitnow

    He also didn’t keep his mouth shut when Hillary was attacked. We don’t know what understanding Palin and McCain have.

  • BernieO

    I heard today that he has told his campaign people to stop the attacks. He should also speak more publicly about it. He is probably trying to get away from all the fuss and has tuned it all out. Still, he needs to speak up. More and more people seem to be, so hopefully it will make a difference.

    As for Obama running to the center, if he is true to form, he will run in whatever direction is politically expedient for him. Let’s not forget he was perfectly willing to water down a bill to please Exelon. I have yet to get a sense that he has any core issues he will stand up for if it hurts him politically. Let’s hope his advisors can keep him on track. And make sure he shows up on time for meetings.

  • rw

    I like plastic Jesus better…more contemporary and jocular.

  • pal3

    why do you hate this country and wan’t to change and destroy it?

  • rw

    Join Nader’s work in DC to help make that happen.

  • wodiej

    The number of ignorant people roaming the world never fails to amaze me…it’s frightening. Your failure to recognize Palin has the highest approval rating of any Govenor, probably any public official, is evidenced of how misinformed and misguided you are.

  • Winston

    Good Tuppence411—Yes straight talk is needed.

  • Grrr

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94N1TkuLWss

    Man arrested for wearing a McCain/Palin t-shirt at an Obama after-party in Philly (city of brotherly love)…

  • imustprotest

    I’m not going to “relax” Andrew until pigs like you are gone. Misogyny is real and is thriving in Obama land. I will not relax and I will not give up this fight no matter what pigs like you say, how long you are here, I will fight pigs like you.

  • benny

    If McCain was still running for office, and someone criticizes his vice-presidential candidate, it is reasonable for him to respond, and defend his VP candidate. Right now, McCain aint running for office. so expecting him to react is ridiculous and counter-productive.

    After all the sexism and misogyny, I want the woman (Gov Palin) to defend herself, and prepare for the future. otherwise, we’ll never see a woman as pres or V.P. no more stereotypes, or knights in shining armor, whether overtly or covertly.

  • J.J. (The PUMA)

    Larry,

    Your comment regarding McCain’s service as a P.O.W. was out of line. The rest was on the mark. An attack that is not refuted is taken by the public as true.

    It is highly cowardly to attack Palin with anonamous quotes. McCain’s failure to at least demand that these people come out of the shadows is VERY troubling. I personally would never hire anybody in McCain’s inner circle for a campaign. Talk about disloyalty.

  • imustprotest

    Are we all forgetting what happened to Hillary? Leaks of emails…..Patti Solis Doyle anyone???

  • Winston

    Does a woman need a man to defend her?

    So you expect Palin to be able to defend herself AGAINST HALF-THE-PLANET?

    This is a global media assault on one woman.

    No one has ever had this kind of non-stop fiction mongering.

  • Lawrence

    Please, please run Sarah Palin in 2012.

    It’s going to take us more than 4 years to clean up this mess you people created, so we’d really appreciate you handing us the election like that.

    Change Is Here.

    ps – feel free to share your vision for America at change.gov

    This is your country too, as much as you might hate your President. We want to hear from everyone

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    The Palin attacks are nothing but fear from BOTH sides that she will run in 12. Romney is a bitter prick who everyone wanted on the McCain ticket this year. So his nuts are behind it. And the OVomit freaks will continue to drive this nonsense about Palin into the ground forever. I saw how completely WIGGED OVomit got over her and how he was spinning himself to death like a two year old who wanted a cookie and got told no. She is the best thing to come out of this election and God Bless McCain for choosing her, against his own party’s wishes. I love McCain. He’s a war hero, a gentleman, and he loves America. I would have been thrilled and honored to call him my President and I have cried every day since this abortion of an election illegally robbed him of the chance. I will not bash McCain ever. He had the fighting spirit all the way until the end. And for the pigs who said things about his age? It’s BO who looks like he’s not up for the job. McCain was doing MIDNIGHT rallies and making BO look like the little girly girl pussy he is. What a shame this all is.

  • raGing

    i’m hoping the old man has something going on behind the scenes. he didn’t survive 5 yrs as a POW & 2 plane crashes just to roll over dead for dimwit fraud like BHO.
    let Palin’s support & the anger build.

  • John Smith

    On a side note. China is spending 4 trillion Yuan (586 billion USD) to prop up its economy. Does anybody know if they will sale US dollars? That would have more bad consequences for out economy. That much additional cash coming on to the world market on top of everything else that has been done is going to have more negative impact on interest rates. BO better start borrowing money soon because there might not be much left by the time he gets into office.

  • hi

    Andrew I ask you agian.
    Do you think BO with NO executive experience, very little legislative experience and many radical associations is qualified to be the next president?

  • Zaggs

    First off McCain deserves some time away from politics. But also some of his top advisers have defended Palin. Steve Biegum has already some out to defend her. Steve Schmidt (McCain’s top advisor) has also done the same. I also believe Rick Davis and Nicola Wallace (who at one point was a suspect) have come to her defense.
    McCain might see the smears as stupid and not possibly believable. He also will be doing Leno on Tuesday which will give him a national audience in which to respond. He might also be more concerned with who the leaker is rather then what they’re saying.
    I also wonder if one/the only leaker is Randy Scheunemann who was fired last week for leaking and at best was suspected of leaking that Palin was a “diva”.

  • Winston

    Is Palin Qualified to be President if Necessary?
    Yes 38%
    No 60%

    Is Biden Obama Qualified to be President if Necessary?
    Yes 6%
    No 94%

  • http://investigatebarackobama.blogspot.com/ kat in your hat

    No Q, did you guys already cover these things?

    DENIED
    HILLARY CLINTON NOT GRANTED HER REQUEST TO CHAIR A SUBCOMMITTEE ON HEALTH COVERAGE. http://www.nypost.com/seven/11082008/news/politics/denied_137757.htm

    –Obama scrubs his brand new (change.gov) website from stating that voluntary service for middle school, high school, and college will be “REQUIRED” to, “a goal”…The Real Barack Obama has an update on it, and Logistics Monster pointed out that forced volunteerism goes against the 13th amendment, which prohibits involuntary servitude.

    -Or why isn’t anyone analyzing how Obama states he will normalize our relations with Cuba, and tell with red countries in South America, and everything else on his new website? He’s ALREADY edited it.

    –What about Obama’s new strange 501 c (7) or whatever kind of new pac he has? Is that to sneak in more secret money?

    –Whatever happened with McCain stating that Obama’s small donor–shady online contributions would be a “scandal,” and what happened to the GOP calling for an investigation?

    –How come no one in the media ever talked about Obama civilian national security force? That shit is scary. We have Obama saying it on video. Yet, total silence in the media.

    –How come no one is really freaking out about our banks getting nationalized and Sharia banking being introduced to our American banks?

    –How come people are flipping out more about this Cloward-Piven manufactured economic crisis and the shocking bailout that continue–now with Pelosi and the auto industry, and then the dems stretching their tentacles in our 401(k)s.

    –WHY won’t more people stop this tidal wave of national socialism that will ONLY lead to all of losing our individual rights.

    –What else can we do to fight this horrible controlled media and their propaganda? Watch dog the Fairness Doctrine? What?

  • rw

    one word reply to you:

    marketing

    Obama’s positive reaction from the throngs: a product of marketing. And how can you plan and execute a marketing campaign, money. And when that campaign has outlived it usefulness and a new product on the market threatens your product, a negative marketing campaign against the threaten.

  • raz

    Show your support for sarah at teamsarah.org

    http://www.teamsarah.org/

  • http://N/A breeze

    Obama = Great Lakes in Oregon

    Obama = Afghanistan needs ARABIC translators

    R O T F L M A O !!!!

  • imustprotest

    Yes, I think we should run Sarah again in 2012! I know you really don’t want that do you little Obama cultist???? Afraid of a CUDA? Of course you are because she really is good, not the fraud that was propped up by the MSM. People really do connect with her and she is a talented politician. She is a threat to your messiah little cultist!!

  • Winston

    There is the possibility that McCain has defended Sarah Palin but it isn’t gettinh any press.

    Possibility? McCain is an expert at face time.

    And we are on the internet. Someone would know if he did. Jeeez.

  • pm317

    But by turning the argument to the vetting process, people like Campbell are trying to reinforce the idea that she was unqualified for the job which is far from the truth and also more hurtful to her future prospects.

  • hi

    Andrew I ask you for the third time.

    Do you think BO with NO executive experience, very little legislative experience and many radical associations is qualified to be the next president?

  • rw

    “Maybe it’s time we all learn to detach politics from our personal emotions a bit,”

    Oh my fXXXCing job, an obot asking for emotional detachment. I just barfed.

  • kgirl1028

    Like i said ealier, mccain is nursing his 2 lost bid for presidents and both time he was more qualified. Even the woman after giving birth spends the first few days thinking about her pregnancy experience and it is only after she does this can she truly bond. Im not saying she is neglectful, but having something the size of watermelon does warrant deep thoughts. I think Hillary and McCain are beat up to badly for not behaving in a certain matter after they have been shell shocked by team obama. And what was even worse was that their “friends” with in their own party didn’t stick up for them. They have had to deal with the press slamming them twenty four seven, and the complete rejection for a man who is without character or conviction. I don’t think mccain’s Chivalry is dead, it’s just taking a nap. If by the end of next week he doesn’t do something I’ll throw him to the wolves but just give the man a chance to reorient.

  • imustprotest

    that site is also being attacked by trolls who are trashing her….what a surprise! NOT! This is a concerted effort folks plain and simple. They are trying to put Sarah down once and for all. Who are they? A.) Axelrod because she threatens him for 2012 B.) Romney because she threatens him for a run in 2012

  • http://investigatebarackobama.blogspot.com/ kat in your hat

    Please everyone wake up and stop following the talking heads and what THEY want everyone to pay attention to. Look at the bigger picture please. WE should set the news.

    The media is controlled propaganda.

    My GOD are you guys still watching CNN and MSNBC?

    Do you still trust ANY media at this point?

  • Winston

    The Weather underground is just a joke to you. Rev Wright is just a peace loving man.

    Obama’s political career was funded by Ayers in Ayers living room. George Soros has bought and paid for Obama.

    Obama is a crypto-marxist. FACT

  • imustprotest

    There you go again Andrew Pig….showing your pig colors again!!!!

  • sheri rogers

    I agree. She said in a radio interview on the radio in alaska. the discussed it like wednesday. About the nastyness that would come her way and to just ignore it.

  • http://noquarter foxyladi14

    yep.and she will win.as bush is fond of saying.this is not her first rodeo..
    or basket ball game.or beauty queen contest.or running for p.t.a. or
    mayor. or governor..

    sara baracuda will be just fine .thank you

  • AF catfish

    O/T but NPR said Obama already talked to Mededev on the phone and set up a meeting with him in January. This while the Russians are setting up missiles all over the place.

    Joe Biden was short by 6 months.

    Will Larry comment on this? Should Obama meet so soon with Mededev? This looks like Kennedy v Kruschev all over again.

  • http://investigatebarackobama.blogspot.com/ kat in your hat

    Let Sarah fall. Let Hillary fall. They (and their party members) need to speak out. We have to take care of ourselves now and help our stupid country that we love before it’s unrecognizable.

  • Winston

    Joe Lieberman would have been a disaster. I can’t think of a worse pick.

    Palin was the perfect pick.

    Ninety-one percent (91%) of Republicans have a favorable view of Palin, including 65% who say their view is Very Favorable. Only eight percent (8%) have an unfavorable view of her, including three percent (3%) Very Unfavorable.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2012/69_of_gop_voters_say_palin_helped_mccain

  • Tuppence411

    I don’t think so, because the smears are kernals of reality wrapped in vicious attacks. The coward back-stabbers heard snippets and fictionalized them. For example after a long conversation on trade, she asked for a run down on all the countries involved in all the US Trade Agreements in the Americas- that turned into “She didn’t know who was in NAFTA.” She asks a clarifying question about the region of South Africa and that gets turned into she didn’t know South Africa was it’s own country or that Africa is a continent. Two aides were waiting for her in her suite. She didn’t know they were there, she was in the shower. She walked into the living area of her suite in a bathrobe and towel around her hair, that morphs into “answering the door in wrapped in a towel” like a scene from a porno flick. This is vicious and it’s coming from inside.

  • Nexus

    McCain has not to defend Palin but he must make a statement saying what he thinks and denouncing this dirty attack. Simply cause is rubbish. If she was a man he would have to do the same.

  • http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312 VinceP1974

    If you watch the 2nd video at this Hot Air article, Palin says that she has recently spoke with McCain on the phone since the attacks started.

    McCain should speak out against the staff spreading rumors… not because Palin needs someone to rescue her from this badmouthing, but because it’s the right thing to do to condemn this gossip.

    These people have violated all trust and they need to be shamed and and publicly repudiated for what they have done.

    She does express a sad truth… that women are going to be faced with sexism from the media, no matter what.. and that women have to work that much harder to rise above it but she wasn’t going to let it hold her down.

  • rw

    anti-Christ is above his intellectual capacity, he’s more the plastic Jesus that comes in cardboard cuts outs that his minions can place above the alter of their new to be formed places of worship.

    The Yes We Can Church, of the Barry Berry Kool-Aid Drinkers.

  • Winston

    Air in tires = drilling for Oil!

    L O L

    His uncle had helped liberate concentration camps, and was among the “first American troops” at Auschwitz.

    R O T F L M A O !!!!

  • bemused

    When the supporters all were knocked down for a few days by the election, I wonder how McCain feels?
    I think RRRA has a clue–to impress the men, a women has to demonstrate she can do her own kicking. Maybe chivalrous men are more impressed by men who stick up for women, than by men who leave the women to duke it out, but in the competitive world there aren’t so many white knights.
    Now, impressing women is another story. Sadly, I think women are impressed by a woman who has men sticking up for her, than by a woman who has women sticking up for her.

  • http://N/A breeze

    THANKS, KGIRL!!!

  • artistmate

    Hey Larry…is this the start of the purge?

  • bell’artista

    I’m with you Kat!

  • jbjd

    This was my first thought. Because JMc has demonstrated through his conduct that he deplores such base public discourse. So, either he and Governor Palin have discussed what response would be appropriate under the circumstances and decided she should determine how to proceed; or else the press is ignoring his objections to these attacks against his former running mate.

  • Lawrence

    Clearly you haven’t had much voter contact.

    The majority voters I talked to from working-class towns in Ohio and Pennsylvania were leaning McCain until he chose Sarah Palin.

    60% of the country didn’t think she was ready to be President.

    You don’t decide what the American people think. They do.

    And they just did.

    I swore to myself I wouldn’t come back here and gloat after the horrible attacks you people made on me and other Obama supporters simply trying to reach out after the primaries, but I’m not that good of a person.

    You were wrong. About the number of PUMA’s. About the electorate’s views on Palin. About the polls being fixed.

    You were wrong.

    We won.

    But it’s not too late for you to join with us to fix our government.

    But it’s gonna take more than sitting here and complaining.

    It’s time to get our hands dirty.

    Are you going to continue to be part of the problem, or are you going to be part of the solution?

    We want to hear your voices. No one can hear you from this echo-chamber website.

    We desperately want to unite this country.

    Why don’t you?

  • http://N/A breeze

    Vince:

    “She does express a sad truth… that women are going to be faced with sexism from the media, no matter what.. and that women have to work that much harder to rise above it but she wasn’t going to let it hold her down.”

    So, how come C. Rice got away with the royal
    treatment all these past years?

  • jean breban

    That is the marxist way. Repeat your lie until it becomes the truth.

    They will not stop. You will hate Sarah too one day or another.

  • sheri rogers

    go to
    http://www.bobandmark.com

    Sarah has an interview with the radio host and she in one segment explain she has already talked to McCAIN.
    Plus they have piper on there.

  • Nexus

    Hillary recovered but not completely, smears are very destructives and they know it. B*stards!

  • rw

    Reading your posts before the general on the 4th I could tell you were a fake…and I also determined you neither have the intellectual capacity, curiosity or maturity to warrant an intelligent reply.

    Kudos to those who answered you and continue to answer with mockery.

  • he whose middle name must NOT be named

    exactly – enuff about palin and hypo-allergenic puppies.

    we are being screwed people! and these damn distractions are just that…

  • hi

    Andrew I ask you agian for the forth time.
    Do you think BO with NO executive experience, very little legislative experience and many radical associations is qualified to be the next president?

  • jessecat

    I don’t normally post here, but read almost everyday. Why are we suddenly bashing McCain? I don’t think for a minute that he ran a bad campaign. Who could fight the Obama machine? Look what happened to Hillary and Bill, they were called racists at every turn and smeared mercilessly by Obama and his minions. Instead of concentrating on McCain at this point we need to focus on the corrupt Democrats that will be running this country. We also need to have faith McCain will do what is right, he has before and will continue to do so.

  • http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312 VinceP1974

    “Please dont insult the Antichrist”

    That has to be the funniest quip i’ve read all year. Thanks!

  • SantaFeK

    Larry, This is tough and needs to be said, but if a journalist can’t say it directly, it’s an even sadder state than the MSM, where only koolaid, tingly leg admiration is permitted.

    It is not a question of Palin needing “defense,” but rather it was McCain’s campaign, his running mate, his employees, his ethos. He should take a tough public stance on this and name names too. Why–it’s just the right thing to do.

  • jbjd

    BHO is not POTUS. Not even POTUS-elect. And all the headlines and celebrations, and all the faux seals in the world cannot cure his unlawful status.

  • zsa

    She wont recover, just a jerry the vp from the dems couldnt, Palin, even as she speaks now to the media comes across as someone who is unknowlegable to be president, this turns alot of people off..alot
    The media is to blame for this, they continue to report it , as they have nothing to report right now..so lets run with bashing palin some more train. No morals no dignity, the media including fox and the bloggers, should shut up, leave palin and her family alone, let them go back to their lives..I for one believe McCain wanted to lose, this is why he campained the way he did..McCain is not a true republican

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    LMFAO about Hillary. Sorry, but she was the one that sold America out and campaigned for OVomit. Now she gets nothing. Oh well. I am wondering how the dumbazz Hillary dems feel who voted for him.

  • Betty Lou

    Did H Clinton ever ban Fox news?

    She took it, took it on, and won, holding her own.

    Really good point, btw.

  • jbjd

    It’s like BO said to Jeff Zeleny back in 2005, when Mr. Z wrote for the Chicago Tribune: ‘If I wasn’t black, I would be just one of “9 freshman senators…”‘ So, I Will Remember in November!, would you revel in pride to show your children – do you have girls? – a white man who, to paraphrase your words, had cheated his way to the White House?

  • hi

    “I’m outta here kids, just wanted to see how the “PUMAs” were doing post-election.”
    Andrew left without answering my question:

    Andrew I ask you agian for the fifth time.
    Do you think BO with NO executive experience, very little legislative experience and many radical associations is qualified to be the next president?

  • jbjd

    I do not find him to be intelligent; and nothing in the record indicates he is smart, either.

  • benny

    problem or solution? you’re with us or against us? sounds more like GWB. Obama is the problem. If you cant see that, we cant help you. Obama uniting the country? you sure you not delusional? never have divisions been so bad.

    4 years for the mess WE created? we are hillary dems, lawrence. we created no mess. GWB did. and following in his footsteps, is obama. I admit we are not obamacrats, like you.

  • Go Sarah, Go !

    I agree with Rev Amy.

    I think this is a plan to show how tough she can be. If it were a man I don’t think McCain would need to get involved. I think this is showing how she can handle the pressure herself, since everyone seems to think McCain will die and how will she handle things. Let’s see how she does. She will be on Greta, I think tonight, let’s see what she says. I do believe McCain thinks the world of Sarah.

    I am a registered Dem who voted for “The Party” that had the gutts to put a woman on the ticket.

  • jbjd

    Can you “see” BO’s birth certificate? Is this “obvious” to you?

  • dobarah

    No, I don’t trust any MSM…which means if there is a national disaster…please make sure to let us know here. I do watch Canadian news but even there I need to use the mute button.

  • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    I agree he should speak out and call it bullshit. The only reason I thought he hasn’t is either he doesn’t want to elevate it, or he wants to wait until he does an interview…

    Maybe he doesn’t want the first comments he makes after his loss, and all the *glowing obama media* to be about internal back stabbing and petty anonymous comments? b’oh?

  • benny

    andrew aint intelligent enough. lol

  • http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312 VinceP1974

    I’m not so sure C Rice has gotten away with anything.

    SHe’s been viciously attacked by the Press. and by folks like Barbra Boxer who told her one day.. ‘As a woman, how does it feel to know you might be responsible for the death of my g-childern”..

    oh that’s not right.. Boxer said something like “Since you dont have kids,then you have no idea how important it is to defend the country ” or something stupid like that.

    Also, Rice isn’t running for office. the attention on her is going to be sporadic. theres nothing the press could do to change the fact she’s in office.

  • New Party

    I certainly don’t think Obama is THE most qualified out there, but he has other qualities that offset that. He’s obviously very intelligent

    That’s funny. He’s a Chicago thug, numbnut, that’s how he was selected. He had help from the corrupt media, DNC, dirty caucuses, and “donations.”

  • Go Sarah, Go !

    The attacks against Sarah are based on fear …

    FEAR = 2012!

    Boy they sure are getting an early start. Must be really scared!

  • Ginger

    Sarah is busy up here in Alaska getting back to the job of Governor. She is enjoying being back and isn’t in a corner somewhere crying about it. You guys need to do just what she suggested and develop thicker skin, she knows enough about politics to know they always play the blame game, and she is not interested in playing that game. She made her statement and is moving on,

    The ‘old boys’ gotta be backed down for now because while the Sarah was away, they tried to play their old games, and she doesn’t have time to worry about yesterdays right now. If anything major turns up I’m sure she will address it, until then she will Govern and the lower 48 will have to do the same.

    As an Alaskan I’m really proud of her and am glad she is still the Governor and had this job to come back to after all that mess. We will show her the proper respect as her voters, she will be fine.
    McCain is probably busy trying to do something about harry Reid and his plan to wipe the republicans from every major committee and has his hands full.

    Ears and eyes open and moving straight ahead is the best course for now….vigilance, everyone, vigilance. Watch them like a hawk and stay our course. They will screw up, dems love to do just that, and as usual the republicans will be there to find the solutions, it’s what we do.

    I, myself, have decided to become a total republican now, no more PUMA, no more feeling pushed around, I am joining full throttle and I plan to work hard. Other PUMA-types and rejected dems should do the same. There is work to be done, and Lord knows the dems won’t help it get done, so roll up some sleeves out the boys and girls, it’s gonna be a bumpy four years.

  • pumaforever

    He should not make it about “defending” her (she doesn’t need it), but he definitely needs to say something about the bad behavior of his staff. He was supposed to be a maverick and the defender of truth, so why is he OK with the garbage brigade now running amok? That’s more the angle….

  • Val in Ohio

    Does anyone here believe the API story or does anyone here believe the Phil Berg case will make a difference?

    If it is proven that BHO isn’t eligable to be POTUS, what happens? I read somewhere that the election will go to McCain?

    What say you?

  • New Party

    OMG, you’re one of those lost obots from that video! You can’t stop campaigning for him even though it’s over.

    Wow, we have our very own Lost Obot on the NQ blog.

  • benny

    the story is nonsense. and if by some miracle, obama is found to be ineligible, Biden will be pres.

  • Ginger

    take the word “out” from that last sentence, I have trouble with rewriting my ideas it seems. senior moment.

  • csam

    Again, Andrew, you don’t know squat about how Republicans win.

    Your identify politics works for your side; it doesn’t and never has worked for Republicans. Republicans win when their base comes out. They do NOT win when they try to appeal to groups: blacks, Hispanics, women, moderates,etc…. Republicans lose when they run moderates (Dole and McCain) and win when they run conservatives (Reagan, Bush I and Bush II). I tend to think both Bushs’ are moderate, but they campaigned as conservatives and the base bought it. Bush I only lost because Perot took 18% of the vote; don’t forget, Clinton only won with 43% of the vote in 1992. Both times Clinton won, he had Perot to thank, although, I still think he would have beaten Dole because Dole was a moderate Republican.

    McCain was leading in the polls until the market crashed; then, he caved and voted for the bailout. He never recovered after that because the fiscals saw him siding with the Democrats. What’s the point of voting for a Republican if there isn’t much of a difference between him and the Democratic candidate? They stayed home.

    If the GOP puts up a true-blue conservative (social and fiscal) the base will come out in droves to vote for that candidate. If that candidate can articulate why her/his conservative principles work for the good of the country, as Reagan successfully did, then that candidate will naturally attract more of the conservative Democrats and Independents. It doesn’t matter one whit if they’re black, Hispanic, women, Jews, Catholics, etc…. it’s all about the principle of the message.

  • Mandelay

    I agree. No reason to bash McCain. He could have easily bashed the Evangelicals (the 5 million votes GWB received in 2004 that went awol this past Tuesday … Palin’s constituency), but instead he said “the failure is mine.” It would be nice to hear every politician say those words once in awhile. In my 57 years, only McCain has taken ownership of his own failure. I suspect this is all about “the woman.” Palin causes a sensation with her followers and an enthusiasm that we’ve only seen with Obama’s supporters. There are people in the Republican Party who must be threatened by that. And the bureaucracies in both parties have gone out of their respective ways to make sure their powerful women candidates have been derailed. I am keeping my eyes on that … not John McCain. Larry, I respect you and this blog, but I feel you’ve gone over the top here. Let’s wait for the Greta interview tomorrow because if Greta does not ask Sarah Palin “Are you angry that John McCain is perceived as not defending you?” then I will toss Fox on my media trash heap. I believe it’s all about keeping women out of national power. Let’s wait and see how the Greta interview pans out.

  • benny

    thats the MSM. well, thats too bad. Campbell can try and reinforce whatever she wants.

  • http://www.latinorepublican.com DD

    Good point, Larry. I will write to my Senator.

    Several are acting like the disciples who ran like hell from Jesus denying everything.

    We will heal and we will regroup. I will do what I can to get everyone to write my senator as well. Thank you.

  • Betty Lou

    Beyond knee jerk party loyalty is truth.

    Without it, you fail, and you fail big.

    Larry was, is, an analyst.

    For him not to question his own bias would be indicative of poor training; in his job at the CIA, biased analysis would be fatal to the US.

    Decision makers have to be told the truth, not some stupid fairy tale that reaffirms their insanity.
    A guy like Cheney, says, makes decisions for the army, the US, in part, men and women lose their lives because others may not be telling him the truth. So, it is the responsibility of those around him to fight for those who are being victimized by those with too much power, fighting for those without voice as if they were fighting for their own families. Gen Hugh Shelton,(a successful general), has said as much.

    Cheney doesn’t have the right to use the army for his personal excursions, our government was set up the way it was to weed out the bad ideas, the unilateral decisions that result in failure. The responsibility is to the welfare of the American people, first. We ARE equal, remember, the American government really isn’t the daisy chain of corporate mediocrity so many seem to think.

    Well, it shouldn’t be anyway.

    There are somethings I disagree with politically, on this blog, but when I want an analysis, I head here.

    BTW, NQ really doesn’t censor for political disagreement.

    Have you noticed?

  • Val in Ohio

    Benny,
    I heard that is the proof comes out before either Dec ? something ( when the delegates cast their votes)or Jan 20 – it goes to McCain. Because Biden was never on the ticket as the POTUS. If something were to happen after Jan 20 – then Biden. before – McCain.

    Just wondering.

  • babinuta48

    Amy!!!! is fool of, and just a sence less idea make me laugh.
    McCain show the lowest of His character, and I am just another angry person.Blaming Sarah for 150000 Republican Party spending spree on close for Her and not telling or discusing this with Her, is just pure absurd. The whole mess in Republican Party and McCain campain stuff is just dispicable. They didnt even support their own candidate. McCan lost my respect. He is not that McCain from Hanoi , as He claim.
    Suggestion by Amy is just try to spread rumor and undermine Sarah quality , great personality and honesty. She dont need to pretend, She is for real. She didnt cover up real situation about har youngets child, She is openly great hunter(animals rights hate Her), that some people see barbaric, but people just dont undertand that hunting is part of life in Alaska as fishing is, as their-Alaskan culture. Igo hunting, I fish, I write snowmachine,play basketball and coach, and I am not Alaskan. This woman is proof for not just woman, but especjaly ,that She is for real and honest as can be. McCain didnt deserve Her as VP and maybe He is jelous, because She got more attention then He did, and the blame is on HIS STUFF and HIM. If was not Sarah Palin, McCain would never get that far. Maybe after all, we dont know the real McCain. It is hard to beliewe, that Man like McCain , who”put AMERICA FIRST” is disrespecting Sarah Palin in a such ugly way.WE were questioning Obama, now we have McCain to answer OUR questions!!!!

  • nobonomo

    I think what’s happening is exactly what it looks like. McCain’s huge ego could not handle that Sarah was more popular than he was and he wants to knock her down a few pegs. Sure she made some mistakes but what did they expect from her? She was plucked from obscurity and put on the world stage and, Couric interview aside, she did a great job.

    All of the claims of diva, rouge, spendthrift, etc. amount to nada. Show me any candidate behind the scenes who is perfect. And why do those things matter?

    Mac’s silence is helping Obama because he is making people regret voting for him knowing he is not the man of honor he was selling us.

    I can’t buy this being planned to make Sarah look stronger. Rather it makes her look adrift with no rescue team.

  • sowsear

    I am the livelong Dem (former, now) in my family. My husband, the lifelong Republican, was not solicited for contributions at all and I finally had to ask the campaign to send him requests for money also. I received requests almost daily at the end, some of which had my husband’s name listed under mine???.
    I have read on the blogs reports from people all over the country who went to McCain headquarters and found them without materials, lists, volunteers, etc.
    I feel McCain’s refusal to use the huge amount of evidence he had on Obama’s lack of character, his secretiveness, his corrupt and radical friends, etc. indicate that McCain and/or the Republican Party didn’t really want to win this election. It is dishonorable, in my estimation, to have let Obama steal this election (like he stole the nomination). Then for the campaign to try to trash Gov. Palin is beyond the pale.

  • imustprotest

    So they stayed home and let the socialist win b/c they thought mac wasn’t “conservative” enough???? You make Republicans sound pretty dumb.

  • http://www.latinorepublican.com DD

    I agree. McCain is busy, and we need to bring this to his attention. The women who supported Obama turned a blind eye to Obama’s misogynist tactics. Let’s work on bringing this issue to McCain’s attention.

    Have a nice Sunday afternoon, folks.

  • oowawa

    How difficult would it be for some skilled person to forge a really good counterfeit birth certificate? Does anyone have an idea on this?

    Question 2: If a birth certificate is in fact presented to SCOTUS on Dec. 1 or whenever, do you suppose it will be examined by experts?

    I feel really clueless about this stuff.

  • imustprotest

    I agree. They are already setting up for 2012.

  • chris

    Yo, imustprotest… how’s the weather over there on the Wrong Side Of History?

    Let Andrew speak his peace. (Or is it piece?) Time to come together and look forward and demand the best from our new prez.

  • Baba Rum Raisin

    >>> They would rather have a giant fuck up like obama take the hits for trying to clean up the mess they made than have a republican be blamed for the extremely hard times to come.

    Ding! Ding! Ding! WE HAVE A WINNER!!!

    If Obama fails, they WON’T have a “new Hoover” named Shrubbie to be a laughingstock for the next 50 years.

  • http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312 VinceP1974

    Speaking of decency…

    Reagan Insider Refutes Obama Claim of ‘Warm Conversation’ After Press Conf. Insult

    Veteran reporter and talk radio host Andrea Shea King reported this weekend at her blog, The Radio Patriot that a close friend of the Reagan family has contradicted the claim by the Obama administration-in-waiting that President-elect Obama had a “warm conversation” with former First Lady Nancy Reagan when he called her to apologize for insulting her at a press conference Friday afternoon.

    Responding to a question by Lynn Sweet of the Chicago Sun-Times about whether he had consulted with “any living ex-presidents”, Obama replied:

    “In terms of speaking to former presidents, I’ve spoken to all of them that are living. Obviously, President Clinton — I didn’t want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about, you know, doing any seances.

    “I have reread some of Lincoln’s writings, who’s always an extraordinary inspiration.

    “And, by the way, President Carter, President Bush, Sr., as well as the current president have all been very gracious and offered to provide any help that they can in this transition process.”

    Obama spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter issued a statement several hours after the press conference about Obama’s call to Mrs. Reagan:

    “President-elect Barack Obama called Nancy Reagan today to apologize for the careless and off-handed remark he made during today’s press conference. The president-elect expressed his admiration and affection for Mrs. Reagan that so many Americans share and they had a warm conversation.”

    Yesterday, a Reagan insider gave a differing account of the phone call:

    “Nancy is at home, comfortable, giving her pelvic bone a chance to heal from what was in fact a minor break. I know that he called Nancy to apologize and she was not warm to him.”

    The Reagan insider also expressed their own opinion on Obama’s remarks:

    “I was not thrilled by President-Elect Obama’s gaffe in his press conference when he said that he had consulted all the living presidents but couldn’t talk to Ronald Reagan because he wasn’t going to do a Nancy Reagan thing and have a seance. His wide grin after saying that, like “Am I clever, or what?” was, in my opinion, a very poor example of what he’ll be like when he is on his own, without a script and a teleprompter, speaking with the tough leaders of Russia, Iran and North Korea.”

    King said in her report the Reagan insider wishes to remain anonymous.

    Obama’s remark was not only insulting, it was factually inaccurate, as ABC News’ Jake Tapper reported Friday:

    Incidentally, Nancy Reagan never held a séance at the White House, though she was reported to have consulted with an astrologer when planning her husband’s schedules. It was Mary Todd Lincoln who regularly held séances.

    When she was first lady, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., worked with spiritual adviser Jean Houston to access an “Eleanor Roosevelt-like consciousness” from within her own psyche. Clinton wrote in a column that Roosevelt “usually responds by telling me to buck up, or at least to grow skin as thick as a rhinoceros.”

    Based in central Florida, Andrea Shea King hosts a talk show on BlogTalk Radio weeknights at 9 Eastern. She previously hosted shows at WDBO-AM, WMMB-AM, and WMEL-AM, was an anchor and reporter at at WESH-TV and a columnist for Florida Today newspaper.

  • Tuppence411

    ^^ whats with the ‘bot inflitration? First Andrew , now Lawrence. Is Sarah still rattling around inside Barky’s head? Did he start his 2012 re-election campaign already?

  • ritamary

    There were was an excellent interview of Sarah posted on this site when McCain first chose her. I think the interview was from a governors’ conference. This interview convinced me she is very intelligent and well-spoken. I did not watch the Couric interview because I don’t watch television.

    I am a life-long pro-choice anti-war Democrat who never voted for a Republican before 2008. My research indicates that Sarah never tried to force her conservative religious views on her constituents. Sarah has my respect and support for the future. And I do not need the media to tell me what to think about her.

  • babinuta48

    remember McCan good bye speach??? after He was done, I saw that moment of McCain not want to say anything to Palins, like it was Sarah foult that He lost, I can feel this. He was hurt and angry and I dint feel that this great realtionship beetween them two was good. McCain shows His anger on stage and was very obvious!!!

  • chris

    hi, do you think Abraham Lincoln with NO executive experience and very little legislative experience was qualified to be president?

  • TriciaNC

    The problem I have with Mac coming out to defend Sarah is the MSM will just twist it anyway or nto report it at all.

    Will Sarah really be better off?

  • http://yahoo.com WasalforhillbutnowMACPALIN

    Wasn’t “Andrew” the scared little college kid before the election who got called out for being a troll several times to which he denied. Cry babied throughout posting shit to place doubt, always referring to greta.wire. Same asshole Andrew. Now they crawl from their rocks.

  • csam

    Yes, they stayed home, just like Democrats stay home for many elections for various reasons. Many do it for what they deem as principled reasons; I don’t understand ANY voter staying home on election day, but many people do – even Democrats. Dumb? You betcha! ;)

    Those conservatives who stayed home due to principles will rue that day when they see what it’s store in for them these next 4 years – IMHO.

  • bystander

    I think when your Harvard professor says you are the most brilliant student he has ever taught, you can be assumed to be intelligent. How did you do at Harvard?

  • Baba Rum Raisin

    “The last time I fought for a lady’s honor, I was 18…and she told me to mind my own business.” – James Garner

  • chris

    Repeat your lie until it becomes the truth.

    I thought that was the Hannity way.

    :-)

  • tek

    What!! ARe these people still bashing Sarah? As I said last week, they must be REALLY worried about her. I’m not surprised. She’s going to be president someday (right after Hillary Rodham Clinton).

    Seriously, we have to get a grassroots movement to get a woman in the WH. We’ve had black and white men, Catholics, protestants, Unitarians, what have you. We have to have a woman next. Women should withhold their votes until a woman is elected.

  • http://mybluecountry.googlepages.com/whattheobamademocratsaresayingposter Linda

    I am of the mind of Amy. Especially after John McCain’s heartfelt speech and statement, no one is to blame but myself. Even though we know that is not correctt, he had an inadequate staff, as we see by Governor Palin’s chief of staff that has no integrity, but looking for her next buck, not realizing, like Gov Richardson, one will take the aid, but will never hire them on because they know they have no integrity as displayed by their turncoat actions.

    Besides, Senator McCain emphasized also that Gov Palin is the Republicans new star.

    Which is also why the media is doing this. They saw their biased personal agenda and efforts to trash McCain / Palin and promote and cover up for Obama that they affected the race. THEY’RE STILL TRYING, BECAUSE THEY KNOW SHE WILL BE A FORMIDABLE OPPONENT TO VERY WARY BARRY in 2012. Can you imagine with her direction and getting a good and LOYAL staff how she will cream the O-shit? All’s he has to do is continue the way he has and how we believe he will and she’ll have her true to self platform to run on and win.

    The media actually is burning their bridges. They are going full force now, to be debunked and they will have nothing more they can do. All their only demeaning and sexist “dumb blonde” jokes will have run out and won’t be able to do it again. All while she is gathering more experience as Governor.

    I love wathcing the media kill themself.

  • George Smathers

    McCain will be making his first post election public appearance Tuesday night on Jay Leno. There is sure to be a discussion of Palin. Before condemning the man before he speaks, or speaks on your terms, why not wait to listen to what he has to say? You are all acting like a lynch mob before you give the man his day in court.

    In past interviews during the campaign, McCain had been presented with questions about Palin being a drag on the ticket, not qualified or whatever. His answer he gave was always that he had the highest faith and confidence in Palin. His tone of voice and his demeanor when talking about Palin gave the distinct impression that he was not just speaking for political expediency but conveyed genuine warmth and admiration for Palin.

    The election was only five days ago, the attacks on Palin are younger than that. Let the steam blow off. THe attacks aren’t really gaining traction anyway since they are so easily debunked if not totally illogical. then gradually, the McCain staffers come out and express their support. Then McCain speaks. In the grand scheme, these past few days are nothing compared to the building of Sarah Palin for the next four yewars. If there is to be a long term, we will know on Tuesday night.

  • Artemis

    McCain is no coward, so his lack of response must be deliberate and I think it reflects Palin’s wishes. Let her speak in her defense first, and then I bet (I hope) McCain follows suit. That way she appears capable of handling the situation; no need for a defender. At some future point, I look for McCain to condemn the “anonymous sources” – and hopefully, name names. These cowards need to be exposed.

  • George Smathers

    yewars?? years

  • sowsear

    And why does Obama think there are 57 states and that there is a Great Lake in Oregon?

  • chris

    Maybe the criticisms of some who were jailed with McCain–who claimed McCain was a self-seeker who sold them out–are true.

    Why is this the first I’m hearing of questions about McCain’s character? Was the MSM not doing its job? Covering for McCain?

  • Artemis

    Maybe Governor Palin should become Senator Palin if Ted Stevens steps down. I would love to see Mr. Smith Comes to Washington in the form of Sarah Palin. It would be interesting to see how she might stir things in that stagnant pool.

  • voterinexile

    i thought i heard that McCain made a statement condemning the attacks on Palin. It was on Fox – only heard it once.
    this may be a case where the media chooses to continue the story, thus create the news rather than report on it.
    even if mccain held a presser, i don’t think it would help in this atmosphere.
    but the previously loyal to a fault republicans are showing signs of wear and tear.
    upshot: no quarter for women anywhere in either political party.

  • AF catfish

    Is it a different Andrew?

  • SJ

    Hey McCain is going on Jay Leno maybe he will defend her there after he is done with the old grandpa routine. Honestly McCain always says he is a man of principle, he sure as hell never hesitated in coming to Obama’s defense when anyone dared uttered a word about Obama.

    Remember the lady in the audience that he told Obama was a good decent man and that he would make a fine President, well maybe McCain lost that vote instantly, so what the hell is taking him so long in coming out and saying what they are saying about Sarah his pick is just not true?

  • imustprotest

    Yes, he’s the new troll sent in to trash Palin.

  • Ghostwolf

    This blog is really unique. I mean ok I wanted Hillary to be President. I “got it” up until McCain picked Palin. Then all of a sudden this blog became a McCain/Palin fan club. Palin in no way is as smart, classy or have anything to do with Hillary’s politics.

    Yes McCain made a huge and desperate mistake by picking Palin. He realizes that, and his staff had to put up with her BS for 3 months.

    This blog is just “support any person with vagina” blog. I guess? I mean.. Obama is bad because he screwed Hillary and now McCain is bad because he screwed Palin.

    I was and still am a Hillary fan. But you know what? I supported her because of her politics and her character. Not because of her gender.

    Before McCain picked Palin.. I was pretty much open to either McCain or Obama winning. Hillary was out. So I was out. Then McCain picked Palin and suddenly I cared again. After 8 years of Bush.. how can we put someone in like Palin whos politics make Bush look like a member of MENSA? I had to support Obama because I was literally scared to death of Palin.

    I would love to have some thoughtful replies to what I am saying because I just don’t understand how you guys support a smart moderate like Hillary then all of a sudden just love Palin’s dumb neocon bullcrap?

  • John Smith

    Brian Wesbury said that the economy will back on its feet by September. This guy has been wrong about everything he has said in the last year. So you can expect the economy not to rebound anytime soon. The government will run out of money or we will have massive inflation if they keep printing money. BO will not be able to implement anything. He will sit in the oval office and wonder why he wanted this job to begin with.

  • tek

    Isn’t it ironic that after 200 years of blacks angsting over not having the vote, the first black president got on the ballot by robbing millions of Democrats of their vote! History will not overlook this.

  • oowawa

    The “Andrew” who is posting in this thread does not appear to be the same person. But who knows . . . I’m easily fooled. We’re all just bodiless voices drifting through cyberspace.

  • elizabeth

    way too harsh on sen. mccain. why beat a beaten underdog? that is unfair.

  • SJ

    Well if you gave your vote to Obama why are you here asking such a silly question, did you not support a smart moderate like Hillary and when she lost you turned around and voted for a man that you know absolutely nothing about.

    A man that has radical friends, a man with a pass that you cant explain and you are not sure or can you prove his allegiance to this country. A man with ideas that you cant say how he is going to get anything going you are waiting to see what will happen, but you gave him a chance did you not?

    Well don’t ask for answers from any of us now why we wanted Palin and don’t complain if thing don’t go as expected with Obama, just tell yourself you did not want Bush and was scared of Palin, and thought that was best for our country.

  • sowsear

    DO NOT GO TO API. THAT SITE WILL CAUSE YOUR COMPUTER TO CRASH. SEVERAL ON PUMAPAC DID WHEN API WAS STATING THAT THEY HAD A CALL FROM MO AND WOULD PUT OUT THE TAPE SOON OR WERE GOING TO GIVE IT TO FOX. ALL A LIE AND PEOPLE WHO DIDN’T IMMEDIATELY CLEAN THEIR COMPUTERS LOST THEM. IF YOU HAVE GONE THERE RUN WHATEVER SPYWARE AND ANTI-VIRUS SYSTEMS YOU HAVE OR CAN DOWNLOAD NOW.

  • tek

    And Gore should have been president in 2000, but Republicans were more than happy to see him the WH despite cheating. Now he’s set the bar for future elections. The Democrats have learned the Bush lessons too well. As for Obama blaming Bush, I can’t stand Obama but remember when Bush spent 8 years blaming Clinton for absolutely everything? That stuff cuts both ways.

    Until Americans across the board can get integrity and denounce cheating, whether it’s their party or not, we will have this stuff from now on. If you think it’s hard to see your party get cheated, it’s harder to see your party cheating.

  • workingclass artist

    Hmmmm…Val Barky has to produce an answer to the SCOTUS by Dec. 1st. If he ignores it…it could be bad as it is Souter who is issuing. Now the conservatives in the court will have a field day with that being strict construcionists and all…
    Now if Barky refuses to comply then we shall see how the responds. Berg’s case is being fought on two fronts.
    #1. Discovery is a bitch and Berg is trying to get the court to compel discovery.
    #2. Based on Discovery…If Barky is legit there is no case and Berg has acknowledged such. If however there is merit to Berg’s claim that Barky is ineligible then the Court will have to decide on the merit of Berg’s case in it’s entirety as to allow it to proceed and overturn the lower courts decision on stadning. So far it seems to be that the court has decided that Barky must at least produce a
    preliminary answer ( show the justices the vault BC )
    #4 If Berg is correct he wins on two things. a. He forces legislation on standing of voters and could force reform or at least clarity on the issue. b. If the case goes forward it could invalidate the election and we start over. It would not automatically go to McCain but there will have to be another precedent and this will be unique..
    Either way it is interesting on many levels and whether one agrees with the merits or not Berg is admirable for taking up the cause…imho

  • tek

    Sorry, I meant Americans were more than more happy to see Bush in the WH despite cheating.

    Also, Bush pandered to the evangelicals, Obama pandered to the blacks and illegals, it’s not an appropriate means of getting in the WH.

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    It’s amazing. What hypocrites. Sort of like all the AAs who gripe about their civil rights 24/7 and then decided that gays shouldn’t have theirs. Boy will their be some serious backlash against the AA community for this one and it will take 25 more years for another AA candidate to get this far.

  • Liberty Belle not for Obama

    I don’t know what “power” Hillary got out of supporting Obama except survival as a politician. Have you seen any deals yet? Her debt paid down/off by him yet?

  • tek

    Exactly what they did to Hillary.This country is getting truly disgusting. I hope all the sex object women who voted for Obama will enjoy living in a country where women aren’t even people.

  • Betty Lou

    I see the train of thought that leads people to support McCain, even those who supported Hillary.

    I didn’t support McCain, I chose not to vote, as I didn’t feel either candidate was worthy of command.

    But I certainly can see why others went with McCain.

    Wow, you can’t?

    BTW, Obama IS Bush.

  • vee

    This is one of the very few times that I have been disappointed in Larry Johnson’s opinion pieces. I think that Mr. Johnson has only added more fuel to the propaganda machine against McCain with this speculation.

  • tek

    The real reason for Obama winning is that the Democrats cheated their own voters and Obama was the corporate candidate. The corporations told the Democrats if they ran Hillary, the corps would tear her down. They wanted Barky–he’s just a puppet.

  • Betty Lou

    Superficially similar, you should know that, a specious comparison.

    Lookng kinda dumb, there, heh, Chris?

  • TeakWoodKite

    Obama is crude not shrewd.
    You may take wait and see attitude but that will have deathramental consequenses.

    The concentric circles of power around BO are not his. They are as he himself has said, “a blank slate of projected hopes and agenda’s”…

    BO can not control much of anything because he is not a moral human being and will take a liking to the way his immediate predessor “ruled” by fiat and executive order.
    ——
    Mr. Johnson, I personally would have liked to see Gov. Palin with her own program, so to speak. It is instructive to see a convicted Senator from Alaska still in the running. That is what Gov. Palin had to deal with.
    I will always respect that of her. If Stevens wins, he will resign and Gov. Palin will appoint some one to take his place. I will see how she chooses.
    I believe this whole Palin blame ggame is a corwards mission.

    And as you have said more than once recently…”stay tuned”.

  • tek

    When Bush won by cheating, I didn’t hear he far left calling that the American Party. Bwhahaha!

  • Kathleen Wynne

    Andrew,

    You’re giving obama credit for running the marketing campaign. He didn’t run it, he just did as he was told and used a teleprompter every step of the way.

    Not to mention, had the help of the DNC which changed the rules to make certain the outcome favored BO, not to mention the fraudulent caucuses which incredulously gave him more delegates for getting 3000 votes during the caucus process than Hillary got in the primary for receiving 300,000 votes! obama also was carried by the MSM (except for Fox) and spent over 1/2 billion dollars from donations that cannot be traced.

    Imagine if Hillary had gotten the nomination and the presidency the way BO did, what would you be saying now?

  • Ai1een

    As much as I love Reverend Amy,(and I definitely do) I respectfully have to DISAGREE with her on the stance that it looks stronger/better for PALIN, as a woman, to be the only one who responds to these smears, with John McCain staying in the background and saying nothing. While I see on the surface that one might think that, one must consider the environment – POLITICS. Saying nothing in the world of POLITICS IS an endictment…period.

    Politics is not a solo sport, it’s a TEAM sport. It is all about picking a good selection for your team, supporting your team (endorsements), attacking the other team, etc.

    Saying Palin should “stand alone” to prove the strength of her womanhood is like saying HILLARY CLINTON should not have had ANYONE to endorse or campaign for her because to do so would show weakness. Frankly, it just doesn’t work that way and everyone knows it; that is why John McCain’s silence is deafening.

    This was JOHN MCCAIN’S campaign. He was the leader. Palin was chosen as “star quarterback” to SUPPORT the losing team, and she gave 100%, yet now she’s supposed to stand alone? Of course the onus falls on JOHN MCCAIN, as leader, to support his teammate.

    While Palin is going to do the Greta VS interview this Monday evening and speak for herself, it is incumbent on JOHN MCCAIN to ALSO speak up for his VP selection, his teammate, his fellow Republican that probably no longer stands a chance in future races due to these cowardly, malicious smears going unanswered by a leader who ironically sold himself as a fighter for the underdog.

    Considering the amount of abuse and slander that this teammate has suffered on behalf of TEAM MCCAIN, I would say it’s past time the “HEAD COACH” took a place at the microphone.

    (I will say in all fairness to MCCAIN, that possibly McCain & Palin discussed it and they might have thought the negative talk would die down & to answer such charges and draw more attention to it might keep it going.)

  • NCgirl

    You’ve got a point sarainitaly. McCain is probably just biding his time. He is dealing with a lot of emotions now. I mean, losing twice to two unqualified candidates has got to be awful to deal with. He has got to be angry as hell. I think he is waiting until he has dealt with this himself before he speaks out. After all, revenge is a dish best served cold. What Mac says later instead of sooner will be more effective…not laced with hurt and anger.

  • tek

    This is a PUMA website. What are you doing here? It’s not a personal blog, it’s a political blog. If you’re looking for a date, go on over to Match.com

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    This is a silly argument. You can’t even beging to compare the ridiculous purchase of the White House for Obama and the Bush win. There is NO proof in the Gore thing. Many people (me) don’t believe it. ALSO, I thank GOD that Gore wasn’t in the White House for 9/11. I guess the ingrates can’t thank Bush for keeping us safe. They will when we are nuked soon like Biden warned. Maybe then Bush will get some credit for our safety. I am tired of the liberal whining about Bush. He had 550 Metric Tons of URANIUM taken out of Iraq. Do you think Saddam would have used that URANIUM for anything other than nuclear bombs? Bush will be credited as being a way better CIC than people think now. If not just because OVomit will destroy this country so badly, sell us out to his terrorist commie idols and friends like Castro, Chavez, etc. BO will be the one who goes down in history as a bad Affirmative Action move that went REALLY BAD. ROFLMAO. Please people. Stop justifying what BO did to steal this election by blaming, yet again, Bush. That’s old. Oops I broke a fingernail…it’s Bush’s fault.

  • tek

    Please, you’re reminding me how really unqualified he is to be president. Don’t worry though, he’s going to have a whole slate of failed presidential candidates (Democrats) to run the country for him.

  • Ai1een

    Because the “beaten underdog” is allowing more beatings to be thrown at the even more bloodied underdog…PALIN.

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    OVomit is a

    B-U-F-F-O-O-N

    and a pompous azzhole who IS going to get us blown off the planet. Like Biden says.

  • tek

    If anyone didn’t know after the RBC meeting that Hillary would never have any important role in the government again then they deserve to be disappointed. Bill either. It is sad to read news about a Democratic administration and the most successful Dem in 60 years isn’t part of it.

    The New Democrats think Obama is going to replace Bill. We’ll see.

  • TeakWoodKite

    intelligence and Harvard…that is funny. Tribe prasing Obama is only because Obama will nominate him for SCOTUS.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    If you are truly scared to death of her then look into your own heart and ask yourself if you are truly being objective here or if sexism is what’s actually inside of you.

    I know liberal men who condescend to Palin and refuse to acknowledge her impressive accomplishments in Alaska. They like to consider themselves enlightened but can’t see their own obvious sexism.

    Anyone who objectively looks at Palin’s record would be impressed. Anyone who is scared to death of her being “incompetent” is either a religious anti-Christian bigot at heart, or is a sexist who simply can’t believe a former beauty queen might actually have something to bring to the political table.

  • workingclass artist

    Look as far as I can see to be successful in the Republican you gotta be Tough as nails…Palin is a savvy politician and don’t we already give the MSM Juveniles way too much power anyway?

  • tek

    Breeze: Condi Rice is George W. Bush’s significant other. Laura lives in an apartment on 5th Avenue in NY.

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    I find both men distasteful. Can’t we do better? That is a rhetorical question. I don’t even want to read the moral equivalency arguments you seem to be answering to. There is no justification for turning two of my votes into meaningless exercises of futility.

  • workingclass artist

    No I think Larry is arguing the loyalty principal but then again…That was how I interpreted it…An ethical argument of consistency…Aaaand since it is still a free america and Larry’s site being a vocal social critic is something he does well…Larry is adept at provocative op-eds…that is why this site is such an interesting one to me…makes me consider the argument…Hmmmm…

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    Dissent? How dare Larry do that! :shock:

  • workingclass artist

    lol…Yeah…How dare he?

  • workingclass artist

    Obviously Tek…that is the most highly entertaining crap I have heard all day…chuckle…

  • http://investigatebarackobama.blogspot.com/ kat in your hat

    Nah, Chris, you are thinking that way because Obama blamed Fox and spoke out against Hannity so much. You were conditioned to hate him (and probably already did), so when he showed actual videos, photos, books, bills, etc…you people were too brainwashed to believe it.

    You were too busy “BELIEVING” Obama.

  • IndieDogg

    Something on both sides of this debate.

    First, yes, I have communicated directly to the man’s reps that if he is, indeed, a man (person) of honor, he will stand up, once more, and say Enough!

    At the same time, there is some validity to the notion that she’s actually asked him (or that they have agreed) to let her handle this.

    In the very telling (best campaign ad for Governor Palin I’ve seen — if she wants one) video impromptu press conference in the outer office of the Alaska Governor’s Office, she mentions, responding to a question about the press, that she and John McCain had just discussed that very thing two hours ago.

    So, they are in contact. And, in the same video, when she speaks of McCain, it is with such obvious admiration and affection, that it is, no doubt, genuine.

    So, on balance, I think they’ve decided to let her stick up for herself. Listen to her narrative about a double standard and how Alaska women are raised. And, if you think about it, who was the one with the fire in their belly in this campaign? She was.

    Also, look at Rasmussen’s poll. More R’s were pleased with their VP nominee than they were with their nominee for President.

    I think it is her time and this is merely her first test.

    But, even so, from my personal point of view, I’d not look at it as Daddy coming to the defense of the little girl, if he did that. I’d look at it as a fellow warrior, someone with whom you shared a national foxhole for weeks, coming our and saying, ENOUGH — my partner in this fight is right and the “anonymous” cowards who will fire from the bushes but not come out into the light and stand behind their words — are lying.

    That’s what I would do. Agreement or no agreement.

    So, in the final analysis, John McCain’s silence in this case, speaks volumes about him.

    But, can she handle it?

    She can handle it.

  • AnninCA

    I agree, Larry. His silence is not appropriate. It makes his support during the campaign look fishy.

    He needs to make a statement. I certainly know that this is nothing more than a tempest in a teapot from low-level jerky staffers, but the media made it into a big story.

    Therefore, he should comment.

  • ritamary

    API is a scam.

  • McPalin

    That’s only the beginning. This talk about Governor Plain is a huge distaction from what Barky is up to, namely the “fairness doctrine” which will be activated in 100 days and bar Republicans from reproting on Barky.
    Don’t let this happen.

    We must act now! Liberals in Congress may try to sneak the Fairness Doctrine into legislation any day now. Liberal pundits inside the Beltway and members of the elite media are already attempting to sell conservative Senators on the notion that their only chance for political survival is to display comity. Unless they hear from you now, they WILL believe it, as they have in the past.

    We can win this fight. It only takes 40 Senators to stand firm . But if patriotic Americans do not speak up, we will lose this fight for our liberties.

    http://www.cfiflistmanager.org/unfairnessdoctrinebe.html

  • McPalin

    It’s a distraction from Barky’s communist takeover and the financial sharia law bill.

  • Hank

    Shouldn’t we be talking about the cowards not willing to come out? The other thing is that it could be Mitt Romney’s people doing this to her? Don’t forget there is a battle on who will be the GOP Leader. And Romney did have key people inside the McCain campaign after he lost the GOP Nomination.

  • workingclass artist

    I think her SUV and the tires are safe…chuckle…

  • chris

    I never said I was a genius, Betty Lou. But at least I’m not still trying to argue that Obama is unqualified for the position to which he was decisively elected by the American people.

  • McPalin

    Are liberals so threatened that they’re plotting and planning right now, at this very minute, to silence conservative thoughts and opinions from the public airwaves?

    You be the judge.
    FOX News asked Senator Chuck Schumer if liberals in Congress will try to implement the so-called Fairness Doctrine – a measure specifically designed to shut down Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham and conservative talk radio.
    Schumer replied indignantly:
    “Do you think we should allow people to put pornography on the air? Absolutely not. Particularly on television or radio.”

    Huh? No, it’s NOT a joke! And he didn’t stop there.

    With control of the White House, the Senate and the House of Representatives, Schumer and his liberal colleagues are twisting the First Amendment’s guarantees of Freedom of Speech and of the Press — ALL TO SET THE STAGE TO SILENCE RUSH, HANNITY AND OTHERS.

    If you’re a liberal, you can burn the flag, put four-letter-word bumper stickers on your car, commit lewd acts on-stage, play profane rap music loudly on your car radio, produce, rent and distribute the most disgusting filth in broad daylight and on the Internet in plain view of minors and even use taxpayer dollars to depict Jesus suspended in bodily waste.

    But when it comes to shutting down conservative thoughts and opinions, now that they have grabbed the reins of power, liberals are making control over the content of speech a top priority!
    They’re plotting and maneuvering behind the scenes to make it happen RIGHT NOW! Peter Kirsanow writing in National Review Online tells us why this fight is URGENT:

    “Imposition of some form of the Fairness Doctrine likely will be one of the Democrats’ agenda items for the first 100 days of the new administration. It’s important that conservatives begin working now to stop it.”

    Kirsanow went on:
    “Waiting until Inauguration Day to get geared up is too late. By that time the Fairness Doctrine Express will be at full steam, wavering Democrats will be pressed to support the new Democratic president, weak-kneed Republicans will want to display comity, the mainstream media will not be saddened to see talk radio annihilated and much of the public will be too enraptured by Obama’s Camelot inauguration to notice or care.”
    Kirsanow is right.
    There is not a moment to lose. If we take a stand now, we can defeat this threat to our civil liberties.

    If we wait, it will be too late.
    Use the hyperlink below and bombard President George W. Bush and the Republican Members of the Senate with your Blast Faxes. Demand that they stand firm against any attempt by liberals in Congress to effectively outlaw the First Amendment.

    We must act now! Liberals in Congress may try to sneak the Fairness Doctrine into legislation any day now. Liberal pundits inside the Beltway and members of the elite media are already attempting to sell conservative Senators on the notion that their only chance for political survival is to display comity. Unless they hear from you now, they WILL believe it, as they have in the past.

    We can win this fight. It only takes 40 Senators to stand firm . But if patriotic Americans do not speak up, we will lose this fight for our liberties.

    http://www.cfiflistmanager.org/unfairnessdoctrinebe.html

    The danger is real:
    1st amenedment.
    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech….”

    It was not a fluke that the above words came first in the first amendment.
    Our Founding Fathers knew that all of our rights flow directly from those fundamental liberties.
    And they knew that once the government began eliminating our First Amendment freedoms, all of our other rights would fall like dominoes.

  • Bellevue_NW_Voter The Renter

    My fundraiser friend correctly notes that the McCain campaign failed, completely, to put in place a system to reach out to voters, to contact voters, and to return phone calls. So there is an organizational incompetence to the McCain campaign.

    A friend and I were puzzling about this once Obama was selected in the primary and I moved from being a Hillary supporter to being a McCain supporter. He was fairly close to the campaign, and was frustrated at the poor implementation of the ground game this year; even HE found it difficult to get involved in ways that seemed organized and planned enough to make a difference. He found it difficult to get his emails returned, etc. Interestingly: he was an early Palin supporter, so maybe there is something to this idea of the party not wanting Palin to succeed.

    We were both surpirsed that in my case, they’d rather let a volunteer go unused than find some way for her to work for McCain without working for the candidacy of another local Republican with whom she disagreed.

    I can understand if McCain wants to be patriotic and let the selected One govern, and not fan the flames of partisanship, because the people have spoken. But, c’mon, one of his own allies is under attack. It sure would be nice if he at least released a statement asking people to cut it out already. If people don’t stand up to this, is this bi-partisan open season on women the kind of thing women have to look forward to for the next 4 years?

  • McPalin

    We definitely need recounts in swing states. Votes counted and cast are too close to let it go.

  • http://Godhelpusall lee M

    One thing that has been bothering me, Larry, is the fact that McCain wouldn’t let Governor Palin give her own concession speech. I understand that she had it all prepared, with the text in her hand and the campaign said NO.

  • McPalin

    Barky has the same mantra for hiding his vote theft.
    They ran a bad campaign.
    For the state senate race…he says they ran a bad campaign.For the US senat race Barky says: they ran a bad campaign.For the primaries, Barky says: They ran a bad campaign.For the GE Barky says: They ran a bad camapaign..all designed to distract from vote theft and to justify his so-called victory.

  • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    The other piece of that, besides being massively outspent, was the clear media bias. And with ALL of the advantages Obama had, including people voting more than ONCE (over 100,000 in GA alone, never mind OH, FL, PA…), and 8 yrs of BUSH, he only lost by 6%. (IN, btw, is still in the McCain column right now, to go along with the other commenter who suggested recounts would put this in McCain’s column).

    That is all to say, regardless of how the campaign was run, all things considered, McCain did pretty well. He surely would have won had the Reps who stayed home voted (and I still cannot believe they would rather have Voldebama rather than McCain- YIKES).

    Add to that the blatant smears against Palin, the flat out LIES by the Obama PR firm that spread far and wide, and it is amazing the difference wasn’t greater.

    But I hear ya, Larry. McCain should say something abt his friend/running mate.

  • McPalin

    scorbs— are you deluded much? yes you are..pull your head out of your butt..

    Gaining control of the media is typically the first act of a leftist usurper.

    When Castro took power in Cuba, he imprisoned journalists en masse and continued to do so throughout his regime, holding those who opposed him indefinitely without charges.

    When Josef Stalin returned from exile in March of 1917 he immediately assumed control of an underground publication founded by Leon Trotsky called Pravda (which, ironically, translates as “Truth”) and made it an official arm of the Soviet Communist Party. Pravda became and remained the chief propaganda arm of the Soviet Communist Party until it was shut down in 1991 by Boris Yeltsin. Subscription to Pravda was MANDATORY.

    Immediately after assuming power in 1933, Adolf Hitler placed Joseph Goebbels in charge of the Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda. All journalists, writers, and artists were required to register with the ministry.

    But this is the United States where, unfortunately, such strong-arm tactics are not necessary because liberals already control the media, EXCEPT for conservative talk radio.

    No conservative talk radio means there is no voice of dissent. No voice of dissent means no free speech and no free speech means that nothing stands in the way of those in government who wish to oppress the governed. The fairness doctrine looms and DEMS will rule.

    The Dem model is more consensus, group oriented

    so scorbs….you are mistaken. There is no consensus and the consitution will be gone becaue of the Dems and Barky.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte

    124 is not a substantially high IQ.

  • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    Andrew – The whole NAFTA thing has already been debunked – by the man who did Palin’s briefings. SO, yes, it IS a stretch that someone who is the gov. of Alaska, right next door to Canada, doesn’t know abt NAFTA. She knows abt it. The article is referenced in this post: http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/09/overnight-open-tread-bang-your-drums-loudly-for-our-sarah/

    Do your homework, please, and stop the fallacious insinuations abt her words being taken out of context. Thanks.

  • Jen

    Yes, McCain is very strange. How can he stay silence for so long? You are right. If he can’t
    even stand up for Sarah Palin, he is not qualified to be a president. I have sent comment to johnmccain’s campaign
    website, asking him to speak out for Sarah
    Palin. I will contact his senate office on
    Monday. Pls join me, let’s send emails and
    make calls to get McCain stand up as a man!

  • McPalin

    Without Governor Palin, McCain would have bombed as he was at 37% before the Gov. came onto the scene. I think Romney is pissed. He and Mac don’t like each other and he is mad he didn’t get the VP pick. Romney can’t get the votes and if he thinks he can he is deluded. He’s just another BIDEN only with a (R) after his name.

  • McPalin

    Obama camp wants us all angry and talking about Palin. They are terrified of being stopped before January.

    Exactly! It’s a distraction. Nothing to see here. Let’s move on and quit arguing. Let them foam at the mouth all that they want. Let’s focus on the terrble stuff approaching fast, like the fairness doctrine which is the 1st amendment and will lead to a domino affect of our rights.

  • Country First

    Well said and thank you for these comments.

  • McPalin

    FU andrew..you are full of it. Palin knows more and is more capable than Barky, Biden, & Mac put together. Stop spreading rumors..do yur research.
    This is a huge distraction to what Barky is up to…change the channel..Mac would have failed miserably without The Gov of Ak.

  • McPalin

    Is this the same Andrew who was always here inciting fear and acting all pansy-assed?

  • aere

    McCain is not a hero, McCain is not a MAN. He is so coward.

  • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    Type, I was referencing a comment at my earlier post by someone – sorry can’t remember now. And it DOES sound plausible that Palin would want to handle this herself. Just to be clear.

    It’s a slippery slope, though – how does McCain do this in a way that doesn’t give the appearance of the man “rescuing” the woman from the mean people? He may say something, and yes, it would be NICE if he told these cowards to show themselves. FOr all we know, he is waiting until AFTER Palin is on the Greta Show tomorrow night (10PM ET) to let her say what SHE wants to say first before he says something. I reckon we’ll see.

  • http://noquarter MAYA

    She needs to go on O’Reilly show and demonstrate her knoledge.

  • http://noquarter MAYA

    She needs to go on O’Reilly show and demonstrate her knowledge.

  • McPalin

    Palin might not be qualified for VP

    Palin is more than qualified! Look up all her accomplishments. I bet there are many you never knew about!

    IT’S BARKY WHO ISN’T QUALIFIED and is an empty suit! BITE IT!

  • McPalin

    Women’s right to choose..exactly..and Gov. Palin supports choice as her choice is for life…she’s not a baby killer but if you chosse to be, then go ahead now…..killing babies has been a Dem thing since 1970..bite me.

  • DanNY

    I just have to say that if I’m not voting for Palin in 2012 I might just sit the next one out. Because I’m not voting for BHO and I’m damn sure not voting for Romney or Newt either.

    I really don’t see why anyone should give any power to these fuckers attacking Governor Palin. They don’t deserve the energy. Send Gov. Palin your best wishes and hope for her future and promise to support her and stop fighting with her detractors and giving them the attention they crave.

  • McPalin

    Everyone refers to Africa as a nation. That’s semantics. We all know it’s a continenet of nations but no one cares to say it that way. Even Hillary refers to it as a nation.

  • McPalin

    Andrew the Obama Obot and Obama himself as well as the OBOT camp are experts at hurling lying insults to anyone who is better than them..

  • DanNY

    I decided that Larry was attacking McCain because he has a pick in 2012 – he already has someone in mind and that he would like to think he has some control. He doesn’t and neither does any of the others (I hope). That is the great thing about the internet and the sooner they figure that out, the better for all of us.

  • McPalin

    Gov Palin will unseat Barky. That’s why they are running scared and hurling insults and lies. She is more competent than barky and has been in Government making sound decisions for over 20 years!!!!!!!!
    ALSO, this is a big distraction from Barky’s inadequacy and impending take down of the constitution!!!!!!!!!!!

  • McPalin

    Because..if they can keep the focus on Gov. Palin and all their swill throwing at her, they can distract from what really is going on right now! We are in trouble..FOCUS PLEASE.

  • Jillie

    first of all, some months ago, palin had been interviewed about the supreme court decision affecting alaska, the one about the exxon valdez. and you believe she doesn’t read newspapers or magazines? what about all the moronic comments coming from biden? or bo, for that matter?
    they didn’t get the same coverage and attention.

    the media was in the tank. the media hates women in power positions.

    substitute the word ‘women’ for the comments made about ‘blacks’ 50 years ago..you’ll get the picture.

  • McPalin

    GOOD! We told you so. Hillary gets punked. We warned you. Next prediction is they steal her senate seat…she should have fought for Mac so she wouldn’t be in this predicament. This comes back to bite her and yes, she brought 80% of 18 million voters for Barky so payback is biting her swiftly. I was in love with her as a leader but no more…we warned her.

  • McHope

    Let’s get some perspective here. I like McCain and I don’t think we need to try to stop the Palin bashing by turning it into McCain bashing.

    Absolutely agree. This is all a continuation of the media campaigning for Obama some more.
    McCain’s campaign manager has already said all of these rumors are false.
    The one sided press will spin any action by McCain or Palin into disaster.
    If McCain speaks out, as I suspect he will, they’ll simply say she is too weak on her own.
    As we saw through the whole campaign, there was no move an Obama opponent could make that the press would not spin into a negative.

    Both Palin and McCain were immensely qualified and ready to serve this country.
    Just because we got the worst possible candidate,
    that’s no reason to blame the only people who stood up to him.
    Remember he was brought to you courtesy of the DNC.

    Besides, if you want the issue to rest, stop fueling it. Obama supporters already hate both of them. Why would a McCain /Palin supporter allow the media to persuade them now?
    If she runs in four years, unless Obama stops just short of causing the end of the world, they will continue to treat her this way. Will it be McCain’s fault then, too?
    If we are going to fight someone or demand action from someone, it should be the greedy, corrupt media,lawmakers, and judicial officials that we stand up to …not McCain.

  • McPalin

    because she is black..affirmative action?

  • McPalin

    I’m going to change from Dem to Repub..I can’t stand the thugs and hippies and baby killers.

  • Margaret

    Women need to stand up, en masse, in defense of Sarah Palin.

  • Goblintrain

    Larry, i just don’t perceive this the same way. Senator McCain has been very very outspokenly supportive of Governor Palin. I don’t think it’s fair to blame him for what a few “anonymous” gossip mongers start & then FNC perpetuates. JMO, but i deeply respect both Senator McCain & Governor Palin. They have both made me proud to be an American, & i only hope that i will have the opportunity in the future to vote for equals of these two great Americans.

  • http://investigatebarackobama.blogspot.com/ kat in your hat

    Good, glad to see you stopped the ADDICTION.

    ….sarcstic….

  • McPalin

    That’s right-It’ll be MAC

  • beebop

    John McCain came to Hillary Clintons defense without hesitation. If he is not defending Palin, there is a reason for it. However, there is nothing to stop him from stopping it if it is his campaign and an announcement from the campaign that started, “while Governor Palin is certainly handling her defense admirably, I feel that I must …..” To not say anything allows columns like this one to grow legs.

  • McPalin

    He didn’t allow her to say anything during his concession speech. He conceded before the votes were done being counted. They are still being counted. I wonder if Mac was threatened like Hill was?

  • mountaingirl

    Actually, you could be right. How do we know there is an anonymous source?

  • McPalin

    Palin is very effective. If she runs her own campaign she will beat the pants off of anyone!
    Check her backgorund..She knows how to gain control.
    Her resume is thick!

  • JustMe

    How do we know this anonymous person saying all this trash about Sarah is actually from the McCain Camp?
    How do we not know the person on Fox is an Obama supporter and just decided to throw out some talking points to take the heat from Obama so he sails into the Whitehouse in Jan with nothing coming out or being discussed these next few weeks?

  • McPalin

    She submitted to become senator when Mulkowski stepped down but he chose his daughter for the Senate instead…Palin has more of a resume than most people realize! She’s won and lost before..no problem..This isn’t her first contest.

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    Right On Larry! I feel the exact same thing. Where the hell is John McCain? He has a lot of nerve letting them get away with handing her the rap for his HORRIBLY run campaign and his INEPT campaign staffers who are not looking for somebody to blame so they can be employed again.

    I wouldn’t hire any of them to wash my car.

  • mountaingirl

    Why would you consider Obama intelligent? He has no school records to prove he was successful in college. He can not debate and normally if someone is smart they are a good debater. He does the duh-duh thing ceaselessly. On what basis are you calling him intelligent?

  • McPalin

    You are full of shet OBOT and you have your head up your…. well you are in the dark..

  • McPalin

    All OBOTS slam Larry. That’s how we know you are an OBOT.

  • McPalin

    Shouldn’t we be talking about NOBAMA and his impending doom? I mean his plan to install the (un)’fairness doctrine” which will wipe out our constitution??????????

  • McPalin

    Mac made the mistake of hiring Romney supporters. Romney and Mac do not like each other..so goes the supporters too…

  • McPalin

    Most of the swing states had Barky winning by a mere 150,000 votes. That’s enough ACORN serial voters to skew this..recount. some states were only by double digits..it was close.

  • AnninCA

    I agree, Larry. It’s time for him to make a statement.

  • I Will Remember In November!

    I have posted here for months through the primaries about Obama’s associations and antics including cheating, sexism and fraud. However, looking at the behavior of Hillary, Bill, and McCain, I realized what is the differences. We are all upset about one POLITICAN SHI@@ING on another politican but the person who suffers is the american people. Are you going to tell me Hillary and Bill, Mccain and whoever has never done underhanded dirty and even fraudulent stuff to get where they are? GROW UP! As long as we the american people are crying and weeping that one politicans is better than the other WE LOSE.

    Obama took fraud and stealing an election to NEW heights but it is still politics as usual just more intense.

    What this election should have taught you is that politicans are looking out for their own best interest i.e. power and influence and if the american people are helped along the way…okay.

  • I Will Remember In November!

    I don’t run in Hillary’s circles. Do you?

  • AnninCA

    I agree. We’ll see. She has to first decide she wants it. Then, she has to figure out a strategy for expanding her attraction to others.

    She goes too far, she’ll upset the fundamentalists who loved her. She doesn’t go far enough, she’ll not attract independents/moderates.

    She’ll continue to not win support from the conservative men, because they are, in fact, more sexist and more prone to be like Ted Stevens in power-brokering moves.

    So it’ll be interesting to see what path she takes.

  • stodgie

    andrew please remove your head from your arse! thanks, now i can speak. first of all obama is a suit and is told what say and do. shrewd? naw, his handlers are shrewd, rude, and crooked. obama is a corporate entity. he is going to do what he is told like bush. next! and please don’t waste our time with anymore crap.

  • stodgie

    i believe that conde’s signficant other just might be of the same sex. i don’t want to spread false rumors but it is out there. it may not be printed by the media.

  • stodgie

    actually i think the repub politicans need to respond to palin insults not just mccain. let them make an issue of barky and gang’s bad manners.

  • McPalin

    I also believe these stories are made up from the Barky journalists. Gov. Palin thinks this also. She said unless they come up with names of who said it then it’s a mute point. It doesn’t exist.

  • cynic

    I believe John McCain’s strategists saddled him with negative campaign tactics that were fundamentally contrary to his true nature. I suspect the inconsistancies we witnessed with that tactic over the course of the campaign reflected a behind-the-scenes battle between the candidate and his own strategists, which he was increasinly at odds with.

    Palin, I believe, was far more willing to go along with the negative tactics than John. This was probably a source of growing tension between them, particularly when questions about Palin’s own qualification became an increasingly high-profile issue.

    This is possibly one reason John McCain is disinclined to be outspoken in Palin’s defense.

  • McPalin

    Polls are skwed…dems have control of the polls..is Biden capable of being president..no! and he is a 3 time loser. No one wants him.

  • Soldier of Christ

    If the Supreme Court denieds the Writ concerning Berg vs Obama- we can then say Goodbye to The Blind Lady that holds the scales. The next one will be The Statue of Liberty being given back to France because it will stand for “crap”. This is what is happening to our country- White guilt at every state level and fear of offending african americans. If OBama is not qualified to be our President legally- the Supreme Court should do their jobs- Mccain should have brought these suits in the front of his talking points. He screw up- not Palin. I have respect for him, but, he had a lousy campaign. If they would have let the “talking straight” girl lose, I think she would have brought it up. Anyway,.I wish the man Obama lots of luck in trying to clean up this mess because it is going to be a big job. And, if in fact he was born in Kenya- he should take the teleprompt and speak in front of the american people and tell them he was born in Kenya and he has to dismiss himself-I doubt if this will happen soon.

  • McPalin

    When you get drafted don’t come crying to us Barky butt lover Andrew the pansy-butt.

  • AnninCA

    Well, I think she remained on-message. The role of the VP candidate is to attack.

    What was fun was that she did it with good spirit.

  • McPalin

    I think the fools OBOTS are here to distract and bash McCain and Palin…They are taking Larry’s concern and running with it.

  • AnninCA

    Agree with you on Harry Reid’s plan to eliminate all Republican positions.

    LOL*

    Lordy, annihilation anyone?

  • AnninCA

    Anyone else done with anonymous sources for stories?

    The press has overused this.

  • McPalin

    Yup. Everyone is falling for the ‘Bad campaign’ narrative that’s Barky’s obots mantra..when will you all ever learn? He pulled this on Hillary and the other opponents..Barky’s the one who ran a bad campaign. Hiring kids to steal votes and them not paying them is bad..bad camapaign.

  • Wisewoman

    Jay Leno is not the appropriate forum for this serious issue. McCain needs to speak out concerning the negative attacks on Palin on every net work.

  • Wisewoman

    It’s my understanding that the evenglicals Repubs voted the economic conservatives stayed at home.

  • baby_puppy

    I agree Ai1een. You said it best.

    I only hope Palin does not talk too critically about the McCain campaign, since this could be seen as a swap at Mac. After all these anonymous sources should not even get the time of day. She needs to be very careful and not fall into the trap that is set for her. Not so much from Greta, but just saying something that might come back and bite Mac.

    She has already criticized the campaign for not letting her make a concession speech intro. She should probably not even give an interview, since it’s unusual for a VP to do so and not the candidate. I smell a rat.

  • ted

    the “mainstream” GOP is attacking palin not b/c they are sexist(although they clearly are), but b/c they know that she has no chance of winning a national election in 2012. no candidate will ever win if all s/he ever inspires is their base. palin was a base pick, nothing more nothing less. did she probably lessen the margins by which mccain lost? absolutely. but elsewhere she was a bust. if she is the gop nominee in 2012, which is possible considering the evangelical base essentially controls the GOP, they will lose very badly and the GOP will be relegated to a party of the south.

  • Baba Rum Raisin

    >>> Condi Rice is George W. Bush’s significant other.

    Has this Changed His Luck at all?

  • Baba Rum Raisin

    I thoroughly dislike Nancy Reagan, and I wouldn’t have made the remark he did. Even tackier than Babs Bush’s, “We were raised to HATE Eleanor Roosevelt,” remark.

    What a way to start off an historic administration…by verbally pissing on your own shoes and showing 330 million people what a juvenile you are.

    Who’s gonna shovel the shit from The Unity Pony?

  • AnninCA

    Her record in Alaska was quite moderate. The press buried that, of course.

  • texaslatina

    several times during mccain’s campaign, i felt like he was trying to lose on purpose. i just kept getting that gut feeling. thank you larry for the article it just confirmed what i had been feeling and thinking. i only supported the mccain/palin ticket because i so loathe obama. but, i do think washington is very scared of sarah and how she will expose things to the light and kick butt. but, i don’t think this trashing of her is affecting the american people. they tried to destroy the clintons and still try but, there are millions of us who still adore them and hillary would have won this election had this nominations not been stolen from her. so i think this is going to backfire,

  • ohio

    Andrew, I worked on the McCain campaign this year at our local level and I can assure you that Republicans loved Sarah Palin.I also attended many rallies with her hear and she was the reason people came out. They loved her and didn’t waiver from that. McCain wouldn’t have had the support he had if it hadn’t been for Palin.She was more than ready. More so than Biden or Obama. As an ex-dem this year, I can tell you that they are going to get Palin groomed for 2012 and should we be even able to have elections in 2012, she will be in the mix for sure.

    I question whether the slams are even truly coming from the GOP, but instead, Obama’s minions, as she is and will be a thorn in his side. He has 4 years to try to destroy her as he didn’t do it this year.

    I thought you said you were a kid in earlier posts? It doesn’t sound like it. YOu sound like an obot that infiltrated here to sow discourse

  • fif

    I called his campaign office, and sent an email as soon as the Palin smears started. My phone message was very firm and angry. I can’t believe he still hasn’t responded.

    It’s not an excuse to wait this long, but he is scheduled to be on Jay Leno tomorrow night. Let’s look for a renunciation of these attacks then. I’m sure Leno will bring it up.

    Greta interviews Sarah this week too – Wed?

  • ohio

    Lawrence, you are wrong. I live in Ohio and I can tell you from working on the campaign that Palin excited people here. I went to as many rallies as I could and all you had to do was stand in line and hear how people were excited for her. You can say what you want, but I know better. I worked it and lived it.

    There will be no unity. Period. Obama is a fake and a fruad and I can’t wait until he’s out of office. This is the first time in my life that I can’t get behind a president and give him a chance. Not ever with this one.

  • nancysabet

    Larry , this is all really from obama campaign. They still need to trash her to make sure she has no future to confront obama, This bastard is thinking already about 2012 and he is not even in the WH. Look at their site , they are stll raising money. And remember hussien obama has to continue to trash Sara so that people forget the one in the WH has still “0″ qualifcatn to be there.

  • ddd342

    It’s not a smear if it is true. Sarah Palin is a frigging disaster and a joke. McCain found that out pretty quickly. There is no record for him to set straight.

  • Brendy

    Greta interviews Sarah Palin TONIGHT (Sunday) – I think. Watch to make sure…

  • Becker

    That’s depends. If the Obama recession has unemployment at +10%, an Iran backed civil war breaks out in Iraq after Obama withdraws (and oil is back to $140/barrel), and Russia is aiding the Taliban in Afghanistan (Obama’s last stand), Palin (or any Republican) will be president in 2012. Obama just taught us that culture stuff does not matter if the country is in turmoil.

  • Becker

    Even in victory, the obots remain sexist and mean.

  • Brendy

    The whole REASON for the smears of Palin is to MAKE SURE that we – as voters – don’t forget how ‘awful’ (sarcasim) is when and IF she runs again. Whomever is behind all these smears AND the CONTINUATION of them want to make sure that this woman is NEVER elected to any other political position. Do these people hate her or FEAR her THAT much? Makes you wonder…

    In my opinion, Sarah will come out even BETTER than before and these lies and smears will help her become stronger.

  • Tyrione

    Email from McCain/Palin Campaign:

    Nov 7th:

    Cindy and I would like to take a moment to thank you for your loyal and steadfast support during the course of this campaign. Governor Palin, her husband Todd, our families, friends and campaign staff extend our deep appreciation for your tireless dedication, support and friendship.

    It is the end of a long journey and your support through the ups and downs has meant more to us than you may ever know.

    Although we were disappointed with the results, we must move beyond this campaign and work together to get our country moving again.

    It is our sincere hope that you will join us in putting our country first and continue to work to keep our nation safe, free and prosperous.

    We urge you to join us in not just congratulating Senator Obama, but offering our next president our good will and earnest effort to find ways to come together as a nation. Whatever our differences may be, we are all fellow Americans.

    We are truly blessed to live in this great country and call ourselves Americans, and we will forever be her loyal servants.

    Today, let there be no reason now for any American to fail to cherish their citizenship in this, the greatest nation on Earth.

    With warm gratitude,

    Cindy McCain John McCain

  • Angel

    And don’t forget he said he was conceived because of the Selma march that occurred 4 years AFTER he was born.

    If the media had done 1/10th of the vetting on Obama that was done on Governor Palin or Joe the Plumber, I can guarantee he wouldn’t have won the election.

  • Angel

    You believe she’s a joke because you haven’t the ability to discern fact from fiction. You’re nothing but a lemming who eagerly swallows whatever is fed to you without questioning whether it’s poison or not. How sad for you.

  • jrterrier

    I assume that he is thinking that if he comes out and speaks about it, the garbage will just be given another lease on life because he is talking about it. i think the garbage is coming from people who have loyalties to other republicans and are trying to derail her future candidacy right now to her help whomever they prefer.

    it’s sick though.

  • DD

    For goodness sakes! Let McCain finish his cabin sabbatical!

    Can’t anyone see that McCain’s TOP advisors helped make the choice for Palin? SInce when do people believe the media these days. The media is ensuring that Palin is destroyed that goes beyond 2012.

    McCain made the Palin choice. He stands by it. We lost. It was in the stars so to speak. McCain was honorable in his campaign and didn’t remind the Americans where Obama came from (A black liberation theological church and so on). Hell my own mother thought Obama was a Catholic! The sheeple have been bamboozled and this was punishment to Bush and GOpers.

    If y’all want to help Obama with a second term, then by all means go on right ahead and parrot the media.

  • ddd342

    I know I am a self hating sexist woman. So is Hillary and the millions more who voted for Obama over McCain. Sarah Palin is not a joke because she is a woman, she is a joke because she is ignorant and simply not qualified to be VP. By the way putting her on the ticket was sexist thinking that woman would vote for her simply because she is a woman. In truth, she could only count on the fundy base who celebrates ignorance and the very few anti-Obama holdouts from the primary. Of course you thought there were more because your minority view has been magnified on this site by Rwingers who come over to try to stir up distention. In reality you are a tiny tiny minority.

  • imustprotest

    She is a Governor and a former mayor and is 100 times more qualified than Obama. But, you just keep pushing your sexist pig propaganda….just keep being the pig that you are…..you’re showing the country how misogynistic the Obama campaign was and is….so keep it up pig.

  • AnninCA

    Well, the press certainly painted her to be an airhead, even though she more than held her own in the VP debates, had far fewer gaffes than Biden, could talk circles around any of them about energy, was highly disciplined on the campaign trail, and kept her cool alot better than Obama did in his first year/interviews and better than Biden did in his latest interviews.

    But….other than that….:)

  • Brendy

    I honestly believe that Obama could produce a fake – and a VERY obvious fake birth certificate and it would be accepted. Can’t you people see? If Wright, that racist white priest, Ayres, Rezko, Khalididi (sp?), ACORN, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, using the race card, the sexism card, the old-age card, the lying, cheating, deceiving and stealing and smearing the Obama campaign did – if ALL of these things DID NOT, COULD NOT prevent Obama from being elected, what makes you think a little ‘ole piece of paper stating where he was born will matter?

    This jerk was GROOMED and MEANT to win this election. Whatever corrupt, evil people/powers that are behind him – they WILL prevail.

  • NYC

    I read a couple of days ago that Senator McCain was in Iraq but when I went back to the site and tried to open the link to the story, it was gone. I got a ’404 error’ message.

    As per the following letter I received today, he will be on the Late Show with Jay Leno this coming week:

    While the President-elect Barack Obama figures out what his game plan is for the course of the nation, John McCain’s got some time to unwind, decompress and of course, appear on late night talk shows. This coming week, McCain is set to appear on NBC’s Tonight Show with Jay Leno.

    According to the Hollywood Reporter, McCain who is a former Naval officer and prisoner of war in Vietnam is set to join Leno this week in honor of Veteran’s Day. The Reporter went on to say, “That McCain chose Tonight instead of David Letterman’s Late Show on CBS may have its roots in the campaign. Letterman repeatedly roasted McCain for canceling a September guest shot because of the economic crisis, finally relenting when McCain came on and said he had ‘screwed up.’”

    Regardless of his reasoning behind choosing Leno over Letterman (if there is really anything behind the choice – maybe he was just on or planning to be on the west coast this week), it’s nice that McCain is going with a more lighthearted venue for his first TV appearance since the election as opposed to a more serious type of talk show or TV program. People who supported him are likely to want to see him in good spirits.

  • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    Just a reminder that I was relating a comment made at another post, and that I thought it was a reasonable concept that McCain /Palin might have a plan in place to address these issues, including giving Palin the space to deal with it as she sees fit. She seems to be doing pretty well so far.

    But I DO think McCain should say something as her friend, and having chosen her to be on the national stage. I thought I said that above, but if I didn’t, it was my oversight.

    Good that people from the McCain camp, who will let their NAMES be used, are speaking up. Abt damn time!

  • Athena the Warrior

    Conservatives blogs like Malkins’ are furious with the false stories. More than one comment suggested that the trouble was coming from the Romney aides that McCain added to his campaign as a way to bring the camps together.

    The feeling is also that Romney is Bush and Rove’s choice and trashing Palin is a way to take her out and leave it smooth sailing for Romney. Gee, where have we seen this before?

  • http://www.diamor.org ophelia

    Talking about geography…Here in Europe, when we say America, we generally mean the USA, which makes Canadians, Venezuelans, Mexicans, Brasilians, etc…jump and protest:”America is a continent, not a country.We also are americans!”And they are right.The same bias newspapers and TV-channels that have tried to ridicule Sarah Palin give us, every four years, the same headlines:”America votes-America decides”, even if the elections only concern the citizens of the USA. Idem, with South Africa, which monopolised the name of an entire region, and made a lot of people around the world forget that Zimbabwe and Namibia are as southern as it is. Finally, Europe is now a country, made of 27 members of the UE. In Africa, according to the wishes of leaders like Abdoulaye Wade, Khadafi, Bouteflika and others,the United States of Africa will soon replace the African Union. Then another continent will become a country. So what?Sarah Palin and John Mac Cain have made the fatal error of refusing to be as agressive as their competitors.They would have won. Anyway, four years are nothing. Some presidents did not even make it until their electoral term!

  • Dutchie

    I still think Axelrod is behind this. Who has the most to gain if Palin never gets on the ballot in 2012? It’s Obama modus operandi. Get the opposition to drop out…or in this case never show up again. Dem infiltraitor in McCain’s camp or a repub bought for a nice chunk of change does the hatchet job and blame it on McCain’s Campaign people. They will always be a bunch of bottom feeders. Even if you put lipstick on a pig….

  • sheri rogers

    Monday night is when it will be on
    BUT greta wire has pics on now..Of piper

  • shannon

    WOW!

    You really feel OK with all those assumptions and calling McCain and incompetent coward?

    Perhaps I have misjudged you, Mr. Johnson.

    I am nothing if I am not loyal. McCain ran an honorable campaign and fought his hardest. He gave Obama a run, all without the full backing from the GOP.

    I received at least 3 e-mails a week, asking for donations and keeping me up to date on campaign events. I also received about a hundred letters in the mail. So, if you thought he was lacking in some way, maybe you should have helped out, instead of criticising after the fact.

    Hey, maybe that “whitey tape” would have helped? (Echo, echo)

    Perhaps you should look into who those unnamed sources were. HINT: start with former Romney staffers. Duh….

  • sheri rogers

    VP candidates don’t give concession speeches.
    Ever. She wanted to though I think because she was sad

  • sheri rogers

    You are correct..
    She can handle more than they can dish out..

  • shannon

    I not an OBOT. But calling McCain incompetend and cowardly went too far. He makes many assumptions in this article and does not give the benefit of the doubt.

  • Winston

    Before condemning the man before he speaks, or speaks on your terms, why not wait to listen to what he has to say?

    Why not wait? When the enemy is attacking you don’t wait to defend yourself. Millions of people find his SILENCE strange.

    Gee I can’t wait to Watch Leno? I really hope he says some funny jokes. NOT!

    Why not wait until McCain appears on SNL? He could do a skit about it. Wouldn’t that be nice.

    If this was an attack on a democrat McCain would have already responded by now. Everybody knows that.

  • Winston

    Let’s get some perspective here. I like McCain and I don’t think we need to try to stop the Palin bashing by turning it into McCain bashing.

    In what conceivable way is this full-scale, non-stop, global media assault on Palin, let’s call it bashing, quantitatively equivalent to some minuscule crticism about McCain’s silence.

    The entire written record of McCain Bashing is astronomically insignificant compared to what Palin has experienced in one week.

    People can’t seem to fathom magnitudes and the words they use serve to confound their powers of reasons.

    McCain’s silence is just deafening.

    I wonder if people were saying this about his wife, what would he do.

  • Patience

    Ditto.

  • Patience

    I missed Greta’s show tonight — can anyone chime in and let me know how it went?

  • JustMe

    I think Greta’s show is tomorrow…10pm est

  • barry bums a ciggie

    I thought it was tomorrow, I’m pretty sure I read it was on Monday night.

  • Winston

    What cheating? Are you one of these BUSH-STOLE the-ELECTION people.

    How did he cheat? Did Gore not cheat? You must have some kind of theory. Tell us.

  • barry bums a ciggie

    Obama walked the streets and taught his minions how to cheat via ACORN. She manages a state with real money, real budgets and real employees. Barry is the joke that is about to be played on the American people. When unemployment hits 9%, and you’re on unemployment, you come back and tell us how that change is working for ya.

  • Hot Librarian

    Obama won because he romised tax cuts PLUS increased govt services.

    USA is currently broke & needs to borrow PLUS cut back consumption Plus grow the economy (to what?) PLUS make America a social democracy PLUS go green.

    OUCH.Not gonna happen if the piggy bank is empty.

  • TeakWoodKite

    winston; are you one of those Pajama people?

  • Patience

    Oops, yeah, it’s tomorrow. Good then, I’ll be sure to tune in.

  • AnninCA

    Good point. Ditto for women who think that way, too.

    Why are they so unwilling to give credit where credit is due?

    It baffles me.

    Other than I’ve received some of that type of treatment in my lifetime when I was successful in an endeavor.

  • AnninCA

    Frankly, 6 out of 10 registered Democrats TOLD exit pollsters that they would likely vote McCain if Hillary were not the candidate. Why? Because McCain’s politics are closer to Hillary’s than are Obama’s.

    That’s the truth.

  • athena

    Yep – your understanding is correct.

  • Mike

    VPs don’t give concession speeches. However, an aide to Gov. Palin said a RNC speechwriter was brought in and drafted what was to be a laudatory introduction for McCain to be delivered by Gov. Palin. The powers that be changed there mind and that’s that. Palin’s aide said the Gov. still has that sheet of paper with the speech, because she thought it was quite moving and true of John McCain.

  • Common Sense

    Sad right? Newsweek made it look like she was trying to advance herself.

    It’s not fair what has been done to this women to be honest with you.

  • AnninCA

    I’m probably the only person in America who really couldn’t stand all the “grassroots” involvement.

    LOL*

    First of all, I don’t need a million calls. I always vote. I’ll make up my mind, and no phone call is going to make a difference.

    Second, I sure don’t want someone knocking on my door about politics.

    Third, I thought it aroused people’s passions on both sides to an unprecedented and dangerous level.

    The hoopla over Obama’s fabulous campaign still didn’t get any larger percentage of the youth vote out than in 1964.

    So other than it created a ton of chatter about stupid issues and controlled the dialogue, what did it do? Not much.

    BTW, I feel that any election that spends beyond 300 million is, frankly, wasting doner money. That’s overkill.

  • AnninCA

    That can’t be, zsa. If she’s turning people off, then it’s her.

  • KathyNeocon

    I agree AnninCA. The whole hit the pavement and harass people, a.k.a. Grassroots onslaught was creepy. The birth of the Civilian Force.

  • Puma-SF

    I think Amy may be onto something. Palin said early on that she had to stand up and fight. She emphasized that you cannot back down or expect anyone else to fight your battles. I truly believe that Mac appreciates her and supports her. It could be a way to solidify her base.

  • athena

    I think you are right. It wouldn’t hurt if we continued to stand up and support her as well.

  • Annie

    Greta flew to Alaska Saturday and will be on her show on Monday with Palin in Alaska – should be good. I agree re john mccain – he must know where these rumors are coming from and he should shut then down once and for all. I am surprised as he always seemed to be a real gent and in “like” with Sarah and Hillary. Even if his wife spoke up…. just a sec, she did but that was before the loss.

    I don’t believe he lost actually I think that ACORN won.

  • Mike

    Comment by ritamary | 2008-11-09 14:27:44

    I am a life-long pro-choice anti-war Democrat who never voted for a Republican before 2008. My research indicates that Sarah never tried to force her conservative religious views on her constituents. Sarah has my respect and support for the future. And I do not need the media to tell me what to think about her.

    I think it’s been said she governs from the center despite her conservative views. As you said she doesn’t force her personal views on her constituents. I find that a big plus for her and for her political future. I think all the talk about whether Gov. Palin plans to run and whether she wants to run in 2012 is far too premature. Listening to her radio interview on bobandmark.com, she talked about it and said if she did such a thing, it would be so unconventional in the manner in which it would be waged…. she said she’s not sure if the American people are ready for something different. (IMO, probably do a heckuva better job than McCain in running a campaign)

    A lot depends on how BO does. If BO doesn’t do a good job, Palin will probably get drafted into running whether she likes it or not in 2012. If BO does good, then I think a run in 8 years is more realistic for her.

  • AnninCA

    I read him say the obvious. This crud is coming from low-level staffers. It always happens to the losing campaign. As he said, “I’ve never seen the winning campaign not be called brilliant and the losing campaign not be called in disarray.” :)

    True.

    It’s just flack.

  • AAA+

    do you even know what the goddamn fairness doctrine IS?

    it gives equal time to multiple political viewpoints.

    something any decent American can get behind

    unless you benefit from rightwing domination of talk radio.

  • Winston

    A woman who is being gang raped 24/7 by the global-media should defend herself. If any one comes to her rescue to even mention the names of the rapists that would be like promoting a stereo-type that women can’t defend themselves from gang-rape.

    I think McCain should go on a vacation and pretend it is not happening. It is for the better good of all women.

  • AnninCA

    I think you’re right. I’m reading a fascinating book on the Supreme Court right now. A small faction of highly powerful Republicans absolutely trashed a wonderfully conservative nominee to the court. The word went out that he wasn’t “conservative” enough, in spite of a solid record. They did the same to Mier.

    There is, indeed, a core group of influential Republicans who are pretty darn nasty, very powerful, and Sarah isn’t their man. Romney was, though.

    I’m sure that’s where the rumors are coming from that this is coming from Romney people.

    She gets it, no doubt. After all, she had to defeat her Republican party incumbants in Alaska. She knows all about Republican good ole- boys.

  • Annie

    BO isn’t even officially POTUS ELECT until December 15th. And there are several states with law suits outstanding against him requiring proof positive of his right to take the President’s office. There is supposedly a full page in one of the Monday papers giving all the information. Perhaps someone here has the full details… I just read it quickly on Friday last.

  • Patience

    I’ve tried SEVERAL times to post a link here to a new AOL poll asking who should run against Obama in 2012 (they don’t waste any time do they?) but it repeatedly fails to go through.

    So I’ve given up and will just alert everyone. It’s a small way to show support for Sarah — check it out and vote!

  • Mike

    Well if they want Palin off the ballot in 2012. They should think of the alternative….. LA Gov Bobby Jindal (Rhodes scholar?) I think is contemplating a run.

  • Winston

    I have rarely ever head McCain explain anything very clearly.

    For example Obama repeated “McCain voted with Bush 90% of the Time”. In fact when Obama bothered to vote he voted for Pelosi 97% of the time.

    Pelosi has lower approvals than Bush.

    Or McCain = Bush.
    Why didn’t McCain say Obama = Carter?

    No one knows why he said the things he did. The best line from McCain was an accident.

    Senator Government.

    An accident was better than anything he said on purpose.

  • athena

    NO – you are a troll…..

  • Annie

    Kat in your Hat – Excellent points you made.

    Maybe Palin should bring all these subjects/points up in her meet with Greta Monday and other interviews through the next days/weeks… would make discourse more immediate to the media on those points, as opposed to the lies and innuendos about Gov. Palin.

    For some reason the media listen to Gove Palin – when will they tell the truth?

    America is on the balance.

  • athena

    I received weekly e-mails form the campaign and personal calls from staff to volunteer in my state because I has “checked that box” at McCains website.

    My neighbors and I found plenty of opportunities to vvolunteer and make calls for McCain. Oh and they fed us too. It was all very organized in fact much mmore organized than the group I worked with on HHillary’s campaign. I felt alone and had to go search and dig for what I needed.

  • BerlinBerlin

    please ignore the trolls everybody

  • Just_Saying

    Larry, you have put it perfectly: “McCain just needs to come out and make a simple statement.” If McCain has a backbone, he will, at the very least, do what you suggest.

    If McCain remains quiet in this unfair smearing of Palin, he is no hero, but a coward, no matter what he may have been called in Vietnam.

    I donated to his campaign, but only because of Sarah. I voted for him, but only because of Sarah. It’s up to him to prove he isn’t a cowardly, weak old man.

    Start talking, McCain!
    .

  • candy

    What, pray tell, is so scary about Palin? And Palin is NOT a neocon. She has nothing to do with the neocons. What the hell are you talking about?

  • Annie

    hard to say but it could be nancy Pelosi as pres and Joe Biden or Sarah Palin as VP…. Or Joe Biden as Pres and Nancy Pelosi as vp or John McCain as vp……

    The list goes on and on and on and I bet Huckeby would be happy to step in…Suspect he is planning another run in 2012 along with Romney….. Neither of them stand a chance in you know… But Sarah Palin just could and I suspect that would be a very good thing for America. A strong, clever woman taking charge of the country… A modern day Amazon!

  • Annie

    I am looking forward to seeing sarah with greta Monday but I am hoping that it is only Sarah we are seeing with Greta. Enough with the children tagging along! Sorry but Piper is just a kid and should be in school or playing with her friends not tagging along with her Mom. It is a distraction, big time. Was cute at the beginning as an introduction – but that was enough.

    Sorry if I offended anyone and their little kids. But executives don’t take their children to board meetings.

  • Yo

    I sent an e-mail to him last week asking him to lay into these rumor mongering aides and to stop the outrageous, humiliating things that are being said about Sarah.

    The Democrats and Romney aides are really truly scared of her comeback. She’s an honest, decent woman that people connected with and she scares the bejesus out of them.

  • Winston

    That would be the dumbest move imaginable. O’Reilly is going around saying and I quote

    “Palin doesn’t know where Africa is.”

    I am not kidding. He said that. Never mention country or continent either, just that she doesn’t even know where is it.

    So I think your advice is, to put it mildly, not wise.

  • Winston

    The majority voters I talked to from working-class towns in Ohio and Pennsylvania were leaning McCain until he chose Sarah Palin.

    This is absurd on its face. You are lying. No one believes this for a minute. Sorry I am not buying your anecdotal evidence.

    Governor Palin has the highest approval rating of any sitting Governor in the US. This was before she was chosen.

    It is even higher now.

    Read this

    Ninety-one percent (91%) of Republicans have a favorable view of Palin, including 65% who say their view is Very Favorable. Only eight percent (8%) have an unfavorable view of her, including three percent (3%) Very Unfavorable.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2012/69_of_gop_voters_say_palin_helped_mccain

  • Snickers

    I don’t think it’s productive to continually blame McCain and get angry with him. I don’t know why he hasn’t defended Governor Palin, but I’m going to assume that he is the same decent man and war hero for whom I voted. There is enough blame to go around several times. Let’s face it, this election was another coup d’etat staged by the Democrats. Both parties have now demonstrated corruption, lack of respect for our Constitution, our laws, the in-place election procedures, etc., etc. as well as their lack of moral compass and a total contempt for the electorate. Pointing fingers at McCain and whoever else, and getting angry with them might feel good in the immediacy of the moment, but in the long term it is unproductive. If we really don’t like the behavior of the media, then do what so many others here at NQ have suggested: Turn off the TV and the radio. Read a book, call a friend, go for a walk, go to the gym, etc., etc. We’re in for a very rough ride with an inexperienced and potentially corrupt politician at the helm. We need to help each other and try to take this country back. It will not be done overnight, but will require commitment and perseverence. People of courage and character will have to run for office, and we, the electorate, will have to vote those in Washington out. I had (falsely) assumed that Barney Frank and John Kerry might have a tough time this election, but their constituency decided to return them again so that the rest of us will have to put up with them, sigh. Still as we work to get rid of these demagogues, we need to walk our talk, continue to have integrity in our daily lives and interactions and temper all of our actions with compassion and kindness.

  • noproblama

    What’s the saying? “Republicans may not know how to govern but they know how to win elections.”

    OK, maybe that’s a Democrat saying but it begs the question; how was it that McCain’s campaign was such a complete dud?

    I remember asking where the heck is McCain after the Dem primary and others assured me that it was just a matter of time before a brilliant strategy emerged.

    Well, you know what? I don’t think the Republicans wanted to win this time for some reason. So McCain didn’t want to get his hands dirty, yeah but even the 527′s were ineffectual.

    Or maybe it’s what we all know down deep inside. That there’s a level of power that transcends party identity. That fascist power that lurks in the darkness but controls everything – even more effectively now with media and das Internet.

    “And they bestowed upon us a puppet savior and told us it was tough sh*t if we didn’t like it good.”

    As Butthead once said to Beavis while watching a bad music video, “Change it or kill me.”

  • AnninCA

    I think there’s a logic to that. It really wasn’t the year for Republicans.

  • AnninCA

    You know, there’s also nothing wrong with just relaxing and letting the country get over campaign politics.

    There are going to be tons of subjects to debate coming up soon.

  • FenelonSpoke

    I consider it unhelpful to blame the McCain campaign for what they did or didn’t do, although. Finger pointing is always de rigeur after an election. The Obama camapign gamed the caucuses, engaged in massive voter fraud, had millions in illegal donnations, had a complicit media kissing up to the one and had to deal with 8 years of loathing for Bush and an economy that tanked. I’m not sure how they could have won against that. It appears to me that McCain admired and respected Palin. He might not be saying anything because they agreed that she has to fight her won battles and/or the media as usual would report nothing even iuf he did say something. Article like this are like a knife in the heart as far as I’m concerned.

  • KFaye

    The anonymous attacks definitely originated from supporters of Palin’s future competitors. But there is another factor motivating the press — they want her attention. Pick me, pick me, or I’ll talk bad about you. It’s like the paparazzi yelling insults to get a reaction from a celebrity. I read a few days ago that the requests for Palin interviews began stacking up immediately after the election. Even OPRAH wants her now!

    Palin Lays Low As Interview Requests Pile Up
    http://newsmax.com/politics/palin/2008/11/06/148682.html

  • Winston

    How did Bush cheat? Did Gore not cheat? You must have some kind of theory. Tell us.

    How did Bush cheat? Where is the evidence? No one in 8 years has ever answered this question.

  • Vicki

    I agree with Larry. Well said. You are a true gentleman. Not that Sarah needs a man to stand up for her, but her running mate should say something, no??

  • O is NOT my president

    The Dems and NObama were NOT AT ALL worried about the “Fairness Doctrine” during this campaign. Besides conservative talk radio, at least 90% of the media gave Obama a lot of free advertisement, all the praises and either didn’t show McCain or trashed him. Where was the fairness there?

  • Kay

    I think Palin can fight this on her own or at the very least needs to LEARN to fight these things on her own. She is in the big league now and has to earn big league respect.

    I do believe that there are groups that want to stomp out the conservative and/or Christian voice in the party as well. They would like both to die and Palin does represent both voices so they are killing two birds with one stone.

    Personally I think they whole Palin focus is petty and we need to look at much deeper issues. Just more distractions from looking at what is really going on in America! Soon we all will be back to obsessing about Paris Hilton again. Sad but true.

  • Snickers

    I’m with you Ks Girl. I’m not watching it. I’m not going to be watching much of anything except my Netflix and maybe HGTV. I love House Hunting.

  • noproblama

    And maybe for good reason.

    My neighbors, a 40-something Republican lawyer and his wife, voted for Bush last time and Obama this time.

    Talk about not having a clue.

  • AnninCA

    I just think it has to do with how this ridiculous story has grown legs.

    It’s quite possible that Sarah’s own defense and the fact that his top aides corroborated her story will kill it.

    It sure smells like yet another smear story. Heaven knows, the independent personnel report that she wasn’t guilty of unethical behavior couldn’t have pleased the editorial staffs of major networks/news groups.

    It rather proved that they were, indeed, so in the tank for Obama that they skewered the woman.

    It proves they are sexist.

    It proves they are not objective.

    It proves that they sold their 4th estate medal for a win.

    They MUST be rather nervous having done that now.

    It puts the entire field of journalism into play.

    Advertising will be the favorite course of future journalists.

    This bashing looks more like a hail mary for journalists to me.

    See, see……she bought nice clothes!

    Wall-Mart Mom lies. She shops at Macy’s.

    LOL*

    Frankly, the media just dug their hole deeper, in my opinion.

  • Ai1een

    Yes Rev. Amy,further down in the responses you did indicate that, in your opinion, McCain should step forward. My take on that quote was that you supported that the theory of letting her do it alone in order to not look weak might be something to consider.

  • noproblama

    You’re right about everything, and yes the conventional wisdom this time was that you could run a poodle against the Republicans and win.

    But that doesn’t explain why the wealth of information that should have defined Obama wasn’t used effectively. And I don’t mean Swift-boating either. Just the truth. I mean, Hillary couldn’t use it but even she expected a blood bath in the general.

    I think Obama won because the uninformed thought he would probably be OK, or at least not as bad as Bush. It was the McCain campaign’s job to raise the doubt.

    They might have still gone down in the end but at least they would have gone down swinging.

  • AnninCA

    I’ve been mulling this over all day.

    I really think McCain should say something specific about his staff leaks. And that’s about it.

    He couldn’t have been more supportive of her without truly crossing the line into paternalism.

    I loved it when he said on the last debate, “I’m not going to stand by and let people bash my supporters as stupid.”

    That spoke volumes to me. I think it’s because I was raised in the deep South. I know people without formal education who are decent, smart, and a lot more reliable than those without. I have a deep, abiding suspicion of those who lean on educational credentials.

    And I feel that’s OK, since I come from a family of very high educational credentials. I had 3 grandparents who were college graduates. Two were in the first classes of the college. So maybe that gives me a bit of oopmph on this topic.

    NOBODY in my family ever put down businesspeople who were successful, smart tradesmen, etc.

    We were pretty wicked on those who never “amounted to much.”

    LOL*

    But hey, every family has their limits.

    But elitism?

    Such baloney.

    I warrant that my family’s credentials beat 90% of all those in government.

    What we learned?

    If you’re smart, you’ll notice other smart people.

    You won’t need to see the pedigree.

    You’ll just get it.

  • SeanceintheWestwing

    I have read and enjoyed many of your intelligent postings, Amy but I disagree with you about this. This is an organized, propaganda campaign to discredit Palin. A campaign that is scurrilous, dishonest and demeaning in gender specific ways.

    John McCain defended Obama at one point suggesting he was a “good family man” which is a blatant mistruth. Men always stick together and this isn’t just about Sarah or Hillary; it’s about the future role of American women in high political offices.

    Sarah stood by McCain and he would apparently rather hang with guys on sitcoms than defend his political choice of her as a competent woman. Maybe, she was a little too competent for his liking. The longer John McCain deserts her the more he shows he is a loser in more ways than one. John McCain lost because he is old and out of touch with the suffering of the American people. He didn’t promise one concrete thing to people hovering on the edge of economic ruin, despair and destitution other than more tax cuts for the rich. Thus, most Dems decided to “hope” that Obama might possibly do something/anything for them. This situation caused a perfect storm and the rise of an aspiring dictator.

    Politics is a social process and why when a woman has a hit job directed towards them are they expected to go it alone? I’ll tell you why because they don’t belong to the “club.” Name one moment for me when Obamessiah was left on his own to face national level attacks.

  • donJohn

    Time is running out to get the Electors names, etc. Many of you have volunteered to help in your states. I thank you VERY much for this.

    We, however have some states without any volunteers.
    I need some of you to vounteer to help in the following states:

    Alaska,
    Arkansas,
    Delaware,
    Hawaii,
    Idaho,
    Kansas,
    MASS,
    Michigan,
    Minnesota,
    NH,
    NJ,
    NY,
    ND,
    Oklahoma,
    RI,
    SD,
    Tennessee,
    Vermont,
    Washington,
    West Virginia,
    Wyoming

    http://www.democratic-disaster.com//index.php?topic=90.0

    http://www.democratic-disaster.com//index.php?PHPSESSID=09ljd51ie2utdsr7971lke5m33&board=1.0

  • SeanceintheWestwing

    Excuse me, but half of the country’s population being excluded from participating in high political office, isn’t in the same category as puppies.

    And the questions put forth above are excellent and require answering; agree with you on that.

  • SeanceintheWestwing

    Good question why McCain didn’t put forth the hard truth.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    correct; witness that anti-gay marriage thing passing in california, by (many of) the same people who elected obama; and quite likely, minority support of the anti-gay measure was higher than white support. as a gay person, let me say that i can feel the love from those non-white democrats who want everybody to treat them equally.

  • Winston

    I have no idea why he is going on Leno. You can’t have any serious commentary on a talk show like that. McCain should go on Rush and Levine if he wants to repair the damage. The MSM will pick up the stories.

    McCain loves the left MSM. His staffers screwed the pooch on Palin’s roll-out by feeding her to the wolves at CBS and ABC.

    THAT DEMONSTRATED THEIR COLOSSAL INCOMPETENCE. They have not a brain between them.
    MORONS.

  • noproblama

    You’ll love this explanation: http://tinyurl.com/6j93c2

  • donJohn

    Rosary Films offers a 1 Million Dollar Reward for Obama’s Certified Obama Long-Form Birth Certificate

    http://obambi.wordpress.com/2008/11/10/1million/

  • NoBamaNoWay

    are you nuts? anybody who stands by and watches while someone is being “gang-raped,” either literal or figuratively, damn well better step in and do something. you don’t just sit there and say “hey, it’s not my problem. let her defend herself.” jeezus f-ing christ. of course she should defend herself, but anybody else who thinks that false, malicious attacks are being made should speak up as well. there is nothing truer than the old saying: silence gives consent.

  • Winston

    Dear Triple A plus A-Hole

    So Obama will decide if it is fair and balanced. How can anyone possibly determine this; other than the Thought Police.

    You are a fool who obviously has not read Orwell. You are a danger to free speech and a danger to our country.

  • Winston

    I WAS BEING SARCASTIC. GOOD GOD.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    it’s not a matter of anybody “taking care of herself.” if you hear somebody lying about a friend, colleague, or anybody you care about, you damn well better call them on it. YOUR OWN personal integrity is on the line if you let that stuff go by.

  • noproblama

    “look at what he inherited from 8 years of Bush, no one could have accomplished anything, he needs another 4 years to really put into place all the hopey changey crap policies that will save the world.”

    Yeah, I’ve heard that qualification from a lot of BO supporters since the election.

    Funny how only a week ago he was going to perform miracles.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    men stand up for other men all the time. why *wouldn’t* mccain stand up for his own VP nominee, just because she happens to be woman????

  • wodiej

    Ok, I’m wondering why we are still trashing McCain. He is not the one making the stupid ass remarks. Here’s a clue to men, women do not need a knight on a white horse to rescue them. Palin and McCain have discussed this. Perhaps she told him to leave it be and she could handle it. It wouldn’t hurt for McCain to speak up but maybe she told him not to! Maybe she wants people to know she can take the heat if she decides to run in 2012 for President. If she does, do we want her to be a whiny ass baby like Oshithead?? I sure as hell don’t. By addressing this she is giving the press more stories.

    If these people spreading the lies had any decency they wouldn’t be spreading them to begin with. You can’t make people do something they don’t want to do. This story is based on ONE person who saw some problems with the campaign. Well maybe she should have went over and worked for Obama. Perhaps voter fraud would have suited her better. Did she do anything to address the problems or bring them to the attention of anyone? She doesn’t say, I guess she just wants to bitch and complain. McCain didn’t have limitless millions of dollars of funding at his back like Obama did either.

    In the end people didn’t vote for Obama because McCain had some problems running his campaign. They voted for him because they think life is like American Idol and they’re a bunch of friggin’ morons.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    i think you guys are getting too smart by half. morality and decency dictates that a person come to the aid of their friend, colleague, VP nominee, or whatever, when that person is being maliciously and falsely attacked. men stand up for other men all the time; why the hell shouldn’t they stand up for a woman, and vice versa?

  • noproblama

    Whatever you believe, a lot of Democrats felt no guilt in regards to claims of malfeasance by the Obama campaign for precisely that reason.

    Everyone wants to cheat on their taxes. If you give them the opportunity, let alone a little justification, they will.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    Palin “standing up for herself” certainly does not preclude other people, who believe that she is being falsely attacked, from speaking out as well. in fact, why *wouldn’t* they? would you stand by and let a friend be smeared in the nastiest, most malicious ways imaginable, and say and do nothing? if so, i’d say you’re not much of a friend.

  • wodiej

    Alaska Electors:

    ALASKA DEMOCRATIC PARTY ELECTORS
    For President: Barack Obama Victor Fischer
    For Vice President: Joe Biden Katherine T. “Katie” Hurley
    Virgie King
    ALASKA LIBERTARIAN PARTY ELECTORS
    For President: Bob Barr Robert Clift
    For Vice President: Wayne A. Root Frederick “David” Haase
    Edward A. Hoch Sr.
    ALASKA REPUBLICAN PARTY ELECTORS
    For President: John McCain Roy Burkhart
    For Vice President: Sarah Palin Hope Nelson
    Robert Brodie
    ALASKAN INDEPENDENCE PARTY ELECTORS
    For President: Chuck Baldwin Dee Roberts
    For Vice President: Darrell Castle James Souza
    Dexter Clark
    INDEPENDENT CANDIDATE ELECTORS ELECTORS
    For President: Ralph Nader Gershon E. Cohen
    For Vice President: Matt Gonzalez Irene Alexakos
    Samuel Dunham

  • NoBamaNoWay

    look, i’m a woman, and i’ll damn sure defend myself against whatever attacks come my way. however, if i’m being ganged up on, and my male “friends” are standing by twidling their thumbs, i’m going to be a little bit upset by that. you people are practicing some kind of bizzaro world/reverse morality where in order to prove how equal women are, they must not get any help from men, even though men get help from other men (and women) all the time.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    hear, hear.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    exactly.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    you have absolutely no evidence that the story is “nonsense;” i know that, because obama has not released his original birth records; for all you know he could have been born in the Kremlin. in any case, it probably won’t amount to anything, because the constitution no longer applies to presidents.

  • wodiej

    Hawaii Electors:

    2008 Presidential Electors

    PARTY
    ELECTORS
    FIRST ALTERNATES
    SECOND ALTERNATES

    Constitution
    David W. Porter
    Kenneth M. Newman
    Sacia Webster

    Constitution
    T.Stuart Murray
    Alice F. Newman
    Conrad Chang

    Constitution
    Norman G. Dale
    Justin Thain
    Calvin Griffin

    Constitution
    Patricia N. Dale
    Lauren Porter
    David Wethington

    Democrat
    Joy Kobashigawa Lewis
    Michael J. Golojuch
    Beverly Jean Withington

    Democrat
    Marie Dolores Strazar
    Harriet N. Kam
    Albert Lewis

    Democrat
    Amefil Agbayani
    Helen Nielson
    Douglas N.B. Pyle

    Democrat
    Frances K. Kagawa
    John P. Sucich
    John W. Bickel

    Green
    Michele Harmon
    Robert Jacobson
    Jonathan Sifuentes

    Green
    William R. Bailey
    John Silvestrone
    Judith Hilke Lundborg

    Green
    Robert H. Stiver
    Renee Ing
    Robert R. Bailey

    Green
    Ira Rohter
    Jill Kimie Sadoyama
    Ramsis G. Lutfy

    2008 Presidential Electors

    PARTY
    ELECTORS
    FIRST ALTERNATES
    SECOND ALTERNATES

    Independent
    Shaun Stenshol
    Howard Saiki
    Catherine Wong

    Independent
    Jilda Voeks
    Arthur F. Stockwell
    Brian J. Daniel

    Independent
    Erik Kvam
    Pamela Miedtke-Wolf
    Rena Blumberg

    Independent
    Marsha Mayer
    Eden Peart
    John Blumer-Buell

    Libertarian
    Tracy Ryan
    Kenneth Schoolland
    Lloyd Jeffrey Mallan

    Libertarian
    John Spangler
    Li Zhao
    David Hudson

    Libertarian
    Larry Bertley
    Guy Monahan
    James Keefe

    Libertarian
    Roger Taylor
    Donald Johnston
    Michael Powell

    Republican
    Linda Lingle
    James R. Aiona
    Marie Laderta

    Republican
    Gerald Coffee
    Sam Aiona
    Gae Bergquist Trommald

    Republican
    Gene Ward
    Janice M. Hellreich
    Steven L. Bretschneider

    Republican
    Willes K. Lee
    BrennanMorioka
    Julie F. Lee

    http://hawaii.gov/elections/factsheets/html/fsbo125.htm

  • NoBamaNoWay

    correct; quite simply, the rule of law no longer applies to presidents and most of congress, or anybody else with significant power/wealth. the law is only to keep us little people in line and doing the will of the aristocracy.

  • katy

    I think that all yiur energy should be aimed at all the news outlets who would even air anything that is rumour and anonymous sources. That is unheared of and frankly unbelievable in a modern society as it is a sign of provincialism and you would not get this kind of journalism in tabloid press here in UK. It is forbiden to say anything without proof and check the source legitimavy.

    Please change your attacks at the news that brought the story and not the story itself. We al know what they wanted to achieve here and anyone can say what they want but to air as the news in my eyes makes those who spread the gosip nothing but cheap and you all should let Fox know that with this kind of reporting journalism has reached bottom. You cannot sink any lower that that.

    Concentrate on attacking those who are spreading rumours and now is chance to go after all those who astroturfed the lies about Sarah.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    okay, explain to us how obama is qualified to president but palin isn’t; then maybe somebody will care about the rest of the garbage you wrote.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    hey, AAs went 90+% for obama (are they a bunch of stupid racists?); if only women had voted 90+% for palin, we’d have a woman VP right now. if it’s good for AAs, it’s good for women, right……?

  • NoBamaNoWay

    look at it this way; america elected Dumya twice, now they elected obama. i think this is pretty clear evidence that mccain was actually the better of the two candidates.

  • wodiej

    Wyoming electors link:

    http://soswy.state.wy.us/Elections/WyoPresElectorInfo.aspx

    Wyoming’s Presidential Electors
    Democratic Party
    Harriett Elizabeth “Liz” Byrd, Cheyenne
    Matilda A. Hansen, Laramie
    Robert J. “Bob” Penney, Casper

    ——————————————————————————–

    Libertarian Party
    Richard Brubaker, Riverton
    Mike Gonsior, Cody
    Dave Herbert, Riverton

    ——————————————————————————–

    Republican Party
    Rosa Goolsby, Casper
    Ron Micheli, Ft. Bridger
    Susan Thomas, Casper

    ——————————————————————————–

    Chuck Baldwin, Independent Candidate
    Nanette Hinck, Afton
    James Paul Jensen, Thayne
    Stephen Mavy, Bedford

    ——————————————————————————–

    Ralph Nader, Independent Candidate
    Peter Bauman, Laramie
    Margaret Leanne Harper, Wheatland
    Lamont R. Hettich, Lander

  • wodiej
  • jbjd

    Why is everyone so focused on whether John McCain should ramp up his public support for Sarah Palin; or the real identities of her critics; instead of the fact that Barack Obama stole the U.S. Presidency and, adding insult to injury, might be ineligible to take the oath of office on January 20 because he is not a natural born citizen, as required under Article II of the U.S. Constitution!

  • Goblintrain

    I agree Katy, Americans have been shamelessly stomped on by the media in this whole election cycle & now are resorting to tabloid tactics to foster more division among the public! It is a disgrace! Frankly i feel filthy even responding to a topic like this, it is disgusting!

  • baby_puppy

    Wow, Jindal would have been perfect. My first look at him was the presser he gave during the hurricane in Louisianna. Impressive.

  • Goblintrain

    Dutchie, i fear you are probably right, & unfortunately Obama has plenty of chump change to buy people with. IMO, his campaign finance policy is going to #1, set a playing field in presidential politics where only the most unscrupulous dare to enter, & #2, be remembered as the trademark of our first colored president. That is not the way to heal race relations within our country!

  • getfitnow

    We don’t know what we don’t know! If McCain and Palin have talked, they may have very well decided that him coming out at this time would NOT be helpful. It would just feed the press more red meat.

  • Goblintrain

    Patience, i certainly hope you are not as drunk as i have been lately, but that would explain you losing track of when Greta’s show airs! Lol! :-)

  • Crack-O-Dawn

    Thank you jbjd

    I turned off my TV election night and have not turned it back on since.

    I am truly sorry to come here and read this sort of trash which is incredibly ignorant considering that rumors these days are started by sneaky brown nosers with hidden agendas.

    John McCain ran a good fight and gave a thief a run for his money, literally. I doubt any other Republican would have done as well.

    Palin certainly made her mistakes but nothing that rises to the level of criticism she has received.

    In the old days, you know when people actually used fucking logic? The rule was if you want a rumor to die, you don’t keep talking about it.

    Because, hello McFlies! No matter what McCain says, they will twist it and turn it.

    I will wait until the pain of the loss subsides before I come and read again.

    Rather than fighters, we got whiners. We sure as heck needed McCain.

  • Andy

    BO has no class; really.

  • Dee

    I received standard emails from the McCain camp several times over the course of the campaign. When I responded to one email with a personal note, I received a personal response back from a campaign staff member within 48 hours. I wouldn’t say that they didn’t reach out to people. I still stand by the fact that the media is to blame 100%. Gov. Palin gave the campaign some publicity – negative and positive. Any other pick would have been ignored just as McCain was for much of the campaign. You can run a campaign but if the press chooses to not cover it, you’re dead in the water. It’s time to take the press and the private funds out of elections.

    In any case, McCain will be on Leno on Tuesday night and it should get decent coverage because it’s entertainment — the stuff that America appears to be more interested in. Isn’t that why Obama really won?

  • Lynn

    I think McCain will step up to the plate and defend Gov. Palin. He’s beginning his first set of interviews this week and I bet he says something. Hopefully, I’m not wrong.

  • hootnannie

    jbid, that IS the bottom line. The media needs to get on this and not let up. If we have to suffer riots in the cities, so be it. Are we to later admit that we elected a Constitutionally unqualified candidate? What are people to believe when this man won’t present a hard-copy birth certificate and his Kenyan grandmother says he was born in Kenya? He hides his American grandmother from the press, and so many different stories have emerged about his visits to her and her illnesses and/or injuries that I don’t even know whether the woman is really dead! I’m beginning to feel like the Elvis-isn’t-really-dead folks, but I can’t help it! Is anyone even seriously asking when her funeral is? It’s like some in the media don’t even think she’s been around the last few years! I read something about Bobo and his sister needing to plan a funeral and nothing else. I can’t help thinking that Mrs. Dunham was never publicly presented because of the fear some honest reporter would ask, “Where was Barack born?”

  • Bob

    George Will has a column today that should be required reading for noquarterbots:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/07/AR2008110703142.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

    Those who would blame her failure on the media, he says, have to portray Americans as “inert clay in the hands of wily media, which only Palin’s conservative celebrators can decipher and resist.” What they don’t get, he says, is that “The more Plain campaigned, the less Americans thought of her qualifications.”

  • EyesOpen

    I think she first and foremost needs to prove to be her own best advocate so that she is seen as strong and capable without being at the side of McCain. McCain is not the future of the party nor in a commanding position. Getting some distance from him is probably good. The best thing for McCain to do would be to say that Sarah is the future of the GOP and let her fight the battles on her terms going forward.

  • NYC

    Ok, I’m wondering why we are still trashing McCain. He is not the one making the stupid ass remarks. Here’s a clue to men, women do not need a knight on a white horse to rescue them. Palin and McCain have discussed this. Perhaps she told him to leave it be and she could handle it. It wouldn’t hurt for McCain to speak up but maybe she told him not to! Maybe she wants people to know she can take the heat if she decides to run in 2012 for President. If she does, do we want her to be a whiny ass baby like Oshithead?? I sure as hell don’t. By addressing this she is giving the press more stories.

    I totally agree with this comment. If I were Sarah, I would do the same. Why let Mr. McCain to get involved in this garbage…? But, since he is a gentleman, he might say something tomorrow if Leno brings this ridiculous subject up.

  • rjj

    Sarah Palin is Fair Game.

    Who calls Fair Game?

  • SJ

    I cant say Obama stole the election, am not going to let some off so easily. The fact of the matter is even with all the questions over Obama that was brought to light some people still voted for him.

    Some supported him because of party, some turned around and supported him because Hillary asked them to, some supported him because of white guilt, and some of his support was from the young group the first timers, that just could not give a hoot and felt they were being cool to vote for Obama, the list is long with all sorts of reasons weather they are good ones or not time will tell.

    Americans need to take elections seriously, maybe it will take some drastic changes in how their lives are to make them understand that elections are something not to play fast and lose with, there are many countries that yearn for the chance to vote, there are many countries that have paid the price and know the value and importance of voting and looking at the candidate and issues.

    Some of us think election time is a fun time, to argue, party, blog and so on who knows maybe a good difficult 4 years may make Americans understand that elections are important and its also very important as to who you make the most powerful person in the world.

  • NYC

    OT – I don’t know where to post this, but since is related to another woman, I think you would like to read the comments of another of the first ladies of today:

    http://tinyurl.com/6rrvrt

    Don’t these women think before opening their big mouths? I bet they are also dead jealous of Sarah!

  • Doc99

    Hitchens just thinks McCain’s senile. He could be right.

  • http://none donnal

    McCain-Palin failed because of the message, or lack of.

    O’Riley just asked Diane Sawyer, who is the RNC chairman?

    She could not say until the end of the interview…this is why we failed. Our side was not organized and we failed because of it.

    His message “change” is why we failed.

    How can win if we do not which way we are going.

  • RJ

    In a post election clip that was shown fairly recently, Gov Palin said the rumors were completely false and the if there are “unamed sources” they should reveal themselves. She also said that she and Senator McCain are in contact on a regular basis. I’m drawing my own conclusions here, but I believe they are planning ahead. This election is over, so the logical thing to do would be to take the neccessary steps for the future. They know what happened, what went wrong and how relentless the media can be and hopefully they’ve learned from that and will use what they have learned and what they already know to their advantage going forward.

    Palin 2012 The Real Deal!

  • NYC

    I don’t understand why Mr. McCain has been attacked now. We all knew that we were voting against the odds. The other one won because it was all planned and meant to be. Why always someone has to take the blame when things don’t go the way we want? This is making me sad. So what if Mr. McCain is senile? I am surprised that after all he has been through he still keeps his sense of humor and that twinkle in his eyes. Being 70 years old doesn’t mean that he should be thrown to the trash can.

  • Andrew P

    For the time being I will side with Nick Carraway in The Great Gatsby and maintain my belief that “reserving judgment is a matter of infinite hope.” I expect that Senator McCain will address the issue in the near future, and suspect that he is allowing Governor Palin to have the first word tonight to Greta on Fox.

    I hope so.

  • Andrew P

    More like George W. Bush is why we failed.

  • Patience

    In response to Bob and the WaPo story linked:

    George Will detests McCain — to him McCain-
    Feingold curtails freedom of speech.

    The fact that Will reduces the choice of Palin to only “chromosomes” is telling (and sexist IMHO) — he refuses to acknowledge that her reform credentials, age, cultural leanings, etc., were factors. What’s more, I don’t agree that the destiny of gender is any less deserving a consideration for VP than something like the destiny of geography — thoughout the history of presidential politics, VP choices have been made based on attracting complementary geographic demographics (JFK picking LBJ is one example).

    (BTW I suspect Romney would’ve been Will’s choice for the top spot or VP. If anyone can enlighten me on this point I’d appreciate it.)

    Another disingenuous point Will makes is to suggest that many among the voting public aren’t subject to the power and bias of the media. This fatuous POV is blind to the entire rationale of advertizing.

    In the end too many GOP voters stayed home, some no doubt because of lukewarm feelings for McCain as well as his bailout vote. But whether or not George Will admits to it, we knew the Obama campaign — along with the media — were doing everything they could to suppress opposition turnout. They succeeded sufficiently and won.

  • Tristan

    It’s a good column, until it gets to Palin. The MSM obviously created a narrative that she was dumb and not up to the job, and some people bought it, and other people didn’t. No, Palin didn’t go to Yale or Harvard like half of our Presidents or Vice President and isn’t a foreign policy expert. What she’s good at is rallying the base and getting to the heart of an issue – like she was the one in her RNC speech who made it crystal clear that “community organizer” is a BS job, that we should leave Iraq in victory not defeat, etc. Don’t underestimate her strengths.

  • Tversky

    Eh, I think this is overkill Larry. This “have you no decency?” stuff reminds me of the over the top hyperbole of Bambi’s campaign – e.g., “McCain is running the sleaziest campaign ever!!!” It also reminds me of the deranged rightwingers that despise McCain and alway see the worst in him. In thier view McCain is a traitor t because he’s had the guts to take on his own party when he disagreed with them.

    We don’t know why McCain hasn’t said anything yet. I wish he would because this issue has blown up. But maybe Palin doesn’t want him to? Maybe he doesn’t want to bring more attention to this crap and is just happy that a few of his other staffers are vouching for Palin? What we DO know is that Palin and McCain have communicated since the election and she still adores him.
    I’m not going to assume McCain is bastard if he never says anything publicly about this garbage. Sara is tough chick . She can handle herself.

    RE: Who is responsible.
    I know the leakers aren’t McCainiacs because they wouldn’t embarrase McCain the way these leakers did. I think it’s coming from former Bush staffers (Tucker Eskew, Nicole Wallace)in McCain’s campaign.
    I bet the “elitists in the party are scared that Palin’s popularity with the base will secure her the 2012 nomination but she’ll go down in flames in the general election thanks to the media smearjob.

  • SeanceintheWestwing

    No, it’s about Palin’s party standing up for her and Mac was at the head of her ticket. if there was any gender equity in American politics we wouldn’t be discussing men vs women. Suggesting that one individual stand up against a global media smear machine is absurd.

  • SeanceintheWestwing

    No, she won’t be okay. Low information voters (most Americans) who get their information from TV have been convinced she is a cretin.I don’t like Sarah Palin’s religiosity and he positions on women’s issues but I will defend her right to participate in a dignified and fair way in the American electoral process.

  • SeanceintheWestwing

    Well said, NoBamaNoWay.

  • SeanceintheWestwing

    You are right, we did warn her and I have been speculating on why she capitulated.

  • SeanceintheWestwing

    No Kat, I turned the GD TV set off altogether and it stay’s off. In Korea people have TVs in their house that can’t be turned off and they have to listen to government propaganda while they eat dinner.

  • SeanceintheWestwing

    Okay, so now women with concerns about sexism in this election are Obots. Just shut the women down….

  • SeanceintheWestwing

    It makes her look like her being set outside the team because she is a woman.

  • McCain called Palin today

    Here’s another update:

    Greta (Fox News) is in AK with Palin. While she was talking with Palin, McCain called and Palin stopped their interview to talk with McCain.

    I don’t agree with all of the criticisms to apply to the campaign…. they did get contact going, just not soon enough. I found McCain to be weak and inconsistent in his campaign. I think McCain assigned traits to Palin she didn’t have or weren’t developed enough to be convincing so I think she was a poor choice. I would never vote for her (too far right for me and very nearly forced me to leave the top of the ballot blank) but she is going to have to do some of what it is claimed she can do if she wants to run for higher office. If Palin and Obama are my choice in the future, I will leave the top blank and look for moderate Repubs.

  • NYC

    RE: Who is responsible.
    I know the leakers aren’t McCainiacs because they wouldn’t embarrase McCain the way these leakers did. I think it’s coming from former Bush staffers (Tucker Eskew, Nicole Wallace)in McCain’s campaign.

    One of these individuals is even giving interviews to foreign news media:

    http://www.affaritaliani.it/politica/usa-john-weaver-mccain-palin101108.html

    This is the translation by Google:

    http://tinyurl.com/6c7j25

    These people are going around the world spewing their venom.

  • BJ

    I saw McC on CNN yesterday and what I saw was a guy totally defending her and being quite flattering to her and saying he does not regret his choice of her at all.

    I also agree with the idea that he should not play the “man” who comes to the defense of the “woman”. I think she’s handling the whole thing quite well and enjoying it.

  • BJ

    he did, he was on cnn yesterday (2 days ago) and thoroughly answered to the debate about her imo. He answered the interviewers ques and was quite flattering to palin. I don’t know where all this sudden blaming of him is coming from.

  • Ghostwolf

    SJ
    I still think Hillary has the better health care plan. I love Hillary. Look at all the replies to what I said. Hell they even called me an OBOT. Before Hillary lost the primary I was welcome here and I understood what the blog stood for. I don’t see how Palin comes close to being Hillary. I thoght this blog was Pro-Hillary. Not Pro-Palin. Despite everyone bashing the hell out of me no on explained to me how this place became a Palin blog.

    I was hoping for a civil discussion and instead got hate. I voted Obama because I see Palin for sure as a continuation of Bush. I don’t like her politics. I don’t like her religion. I don’t think she is qualified to be President.

    Obama has surrounded himelf with ex-Clinton staffers. He is not trying to destroy the seperation of church and state. Obama will hopefully continue to surround himself with Clinton people. I hope he picks RFJ Jr. to be on his staff.
    Well since I don’t like Palin I guess I’m not welcome here anymore. Maybe I can find a place that still loves Hillary for Hillary. Not because she was a woman. I love women but just because I don’t like one women because of her politics does not mean I hate women. I am going to support the new President. Had McCain won I’d be supporting him too.. hoping like hell he didn’t die.
    Hillary Supporter. Not an OBOT. Not a Palin loving Republican.
    Palin’s politics have nothing to do with Hillary. You guys love Palin so much. Do you think if Hillary were reading this blog she’d appreciate you guys thinking that her and Palin are the same? Hillary is my favorite politician. I don’t disrespect her by supporting Palin. I don’t disrespct her by saying Obama is the same as her. I will always love Hillary.

    The election is over. Why has this blog changed from pro Hillary to pro Palin? If anyone knows of a blog where people like me who voted for Hillary in the Primary are welcome even if they voted Obama in the General.. please let me know.

    I’m glad you all love Palin. She isn’t for me but I won’t bash you guys for who you like.

  • Ghostwolf

    Hillary or Bust
    Thanks for your reply. I am not sexist. I am a white male who votes for who he thinks is the best candidate. I guess I’m just too liberal to vote for Palin. I admit that I don’t vote for a candidate just because they are a woman. But I don’t vote against a candidate because they are a woman either. I voted for a woman alderman in my city. I voted for Hillary in the Primary. My opposition to Palin has nothing to do with her gender.

    Take care Hillary or Bust. I am just looking for a place where I can support Hillary without being hated for not voting for Palin.

    I appreciate your reply and not being hateful like some of the other replies.

  • beebop

    I don’t confuse the two. I worked for HRC and donated money …. But one made it to the dance and one didn’t. One is standing up for herself and the other isn’t. Which one is a better example to a young woman today? The one kowtowing to a less qualified man or the one looking for a place for herself? Just askin’ ….. :)

  • imustprotest

    Exactly!!! They REFUSE to look at Palin’s record and what she has accomplished as a GOVERNOR among other things. I am so f@#K@NG sick of it!!!

  • http://democratsforrealchange.info Dr. bobbi Anne white

    the republicans made a huge blunder when they announced their nominee too early. If they had waited, they could have easily run Michael Steele at the top of the ticket and we wouldn’t be in this constitutional crisis right now.

  • Mary

    Agreed.

    McCain should do the HONORABLE thing and “come out clean” on where he stands with Palin’s latest media holocaust–without appearing to be disrespectful to her own ability to weather the storm!

    Larry’s post is strong enough to, hopefully, force McCain to take ACTION. To do otherwise would also darken his legacy as the First presidential candidate from the Republican side of the fence to enlist a Female V-P–to his immense credit. However, to refuse to speak up on behalf of his former Presidential ticket partner is….misogynist!And I don’t think Sen. McCain would want to have his legacy tarnished.
    He showed grace and wisdom and respect toward HIllary Clinton. I am sure he can offer Sarah some badly needed support to fight off the sexist media ‘leg thrillers’ who’d like nothing better than to bloody yet another woman of distinction.

  • mary

    McCain must take Larry’s advice here and speak up on behalf of his former presidential mate to avoid having his legacy tarnished.
    Surely Gov. Palin deserves respect (not protection; she can do that herself) from the man who leads her Party. To keep silent is to be seen as petty–and petty McCain has never been. He’s been respectful and supportive of Hillary and he did choose a Woman as his running mate, to his credit. Now, let’s see McCain fight for Sarah, too! She deserves nothing less–whether you agree with her conservative ideology or stands or not. This is about principles in Media War Time! And she needs her buddies to stand up for her! Especially the man who had the foresight to choose HER!

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