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Hell Hath No Fury Like a Hillary Supporter Scorned (and most of all Hillary herself, left bereft in a corner swept up along with rally detritus)

By SusanUnPC on November 9, 2008 at 4:00 PM in Barack Obama, Health Care, Hillary Clinton, NoQuarter Radio, Obama's Broken Promises, Obama's Priorities, Ted Kennedy

Okay, so it was just a personal fantasy of mine.

But I really thought (yes, I really did) — that day when Hillary and Barack were whispering to each other on that plane — that they’d come to an arrangement. That they had struck THIS deal: Hillary would dutifully campaign for Barack, frequently and with passion, and so would Bill. And, in exchange, she’d get to lead the Congressional effort for universal health care. And her name might even be attached to the health care plan.

(Of note: She had to campaign for Barack no matter what because, if he’d lost, she’d forever have been blamed. And even if he’d won, and she hadn’t performed, she’d have been treated as a turncoat outcast. It was a terrible situation for her to be in, and I ached for her.)

But now this?????? This twisting of the knife stabbed into Hillary and all of her supporters, most of whom came through for you (god knows why but they did), you selfish pr–k, Barack??? This comes from Jennifer Rubin, a guest of Nocturnal Warrior on our No Quarter Radio channel — on both of these must-listen archived shows on October 21, 2008 and September 16, 2008:

And For The Losers

Hillary Clinton didn’t get the VP slot. And she is not getting health care stewardship– at least not in the Senate. Politics is tough stuff. And if you lose, the winners generally ignore or spurn you, unless you have something to offer them or pose some danger to them. It might be wise for the new President to give Hillary, and Bill too, something to do. There will be rockier times ahead and it pays to keep your rivals close. Still, it is not likely she will pose much of a danger to his success. Her bargaining power is gone.

Ms. Rubin links to the New York Post‘s article, “DENIED.” I decided to take a couple screenshots. The New York Post clearly ENJOYS Hillary’s pain. But they did report the story, so here goes:

denied.jpg

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Did you catch that?

“In the end, it’s President Obama
who’s going to lead the effort for us,”
Myers told Inside Health Policy.

ALL HAIL CAESAR!

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You can read the full article here.

P.S. DO listen to Nocturnal Warrior’s archived shows with Jennifer Rubin. For one thing, Nocturnal Warrior will make you laugh yourselves silly because he is SO clever, SO funny, and makes SO much fun of Barack Obama!.

Listen to Jennifer Rubin and Nocturnal Warrior (and his sidekick Puma Pam) by clicking here: October 21, 2008 and September 16, 2008.

You cannot be angry ALL the time. Laughter is our savior!

It is wildly amusing to read articles about comedians who are stuck with how to make fun of Barack Obama. Some are even claiming that his election means the “death” of comedy.

Uh, people. Get a clue! Hire Nocturnal Warrior. He’s totally hilarious. And he mocks Obama all the time, yet is never — not once — below-the-belt cruel. That’s an exceptional talent: To be riotously funny without being nasty. Nocturnal Warrior has it down.

Every Tuesday night at 9:00 p.m. on NoQuarterRadio.

  • AnninCA

    I’m not surprised that she’s being dismissed.

    Tough business, WA, and she’s on the wrong side of Nancy now.

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    To be riotously funny without being nasty.

    True but I enjoy the occasional more colorful metaphor from Larry. :shock:

    • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

      Galt….Uhhh…I’m better today (a little) but kinda hungry??? Hint Hint :smile:

      • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

        I’ll make a deal with you, no more suicide references and you can have a free large pizza with unlimited toppings AND a couple tall frosty ones. :mrgreen:

        • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

          Okay, I’ll try to straighten up. But honestly, I don’t want to live in an Obama world. It’s not worth it. Offing myself being off the table as an option…it really is leave the country. I was praying that the truth would come out about him before January 20th. But now it’s put the houses on the market, I already moved all the cash, and get out like my friends are until 2010 and a GOP Congress.

          Thanks for the grub. I don’t have and desire to even cook anymore. :cry: What would I do without my Galt??? :mrgreen:

          • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

            OK this is a first good step. We don’t need anyone offing themselves because of that POS.

            What would you like on your pizza? :mrgreen:

            And there might be something better than moving you could consider doing.

            • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

              I would like Pepperoni, Mushrooms and Black Olives please. And lots of those little red chili peppers :mrgreen: Thanks!

              I have racked my brain for what to do other than move. I’m telling you…last night when I saw that Home Shopping Network had BO Silver Dollars with KENNEDY’S FACE NEXT TO HIS, well that was it. I almost lost it totally. And I still don’t get how three days later they had these coins made? It made me get out the tin foil hat again and scream conspiracy in my sleep.

              I can fight this from afar. But I can’t watch him destroy us. How can you?????

              • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

                You begin by understanding this election brings out a symptom of a larger illness. You’ve been trying to treat the symptom yet the illness rages on. ;)

                • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

                  PS: Turn off the tube for a while. I’ve only been watching some old movies and science programs. I don’t need to see that POS on my screen.

                  • Jackarooty

                    Excellent advice. I’ve been watching movies and science programs too. The NeoG about the screaming mummy is a good one. The news that I watch is FOX only. I can’t even bear to watch my local (Massachusetts) news…you get the drift.

                    Veggie pizza please, lots of eggplant and onions.

                    • Jackarooty

                      I meant NGEO!

                    • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

                      One veggie special with eggplant and onions coming right up! :mrgreen:

                      I don’t watch any news channels. I guess when they announce the end of the world I will miss it. :shock:

                    • pm317

                      Hey, I just ate a Hawaiin pizza but I am vegetarian, so replaced ham with halopeno peppers. Try it, it is very good!

              • eriezindian

                Please give me a hint where to put my money?? I’d love to get out also.

        • SFIndiePUMA

          Hey, if I promise not to do myself in do I get a free large pizza too??? I’ve been drowning my sorrow in chinese food, buffalo wings, and a fair bit of chocolate (desperate to keep the weight up, you know, just in case the spreading of the wealth doesn’t trickle down to me and I have to live off the fat of my ass the land).

          I like pesto sauce with garlic. Yummmmmmmmy.

          Thanks, Galt!

          • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

            ROFLMAO…At least when we are in our bunkers from the nuclear fallout that BO welcomed upon us, we will have GALT to FEED US :mrgreen:

            • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

              Sure will. I already have my radiation-proof clothing, respirator and ElectroMagnetic-Pulse-proof delivery vehicle.

  • Tricia

    Barack is already impressing us his first press conference he has to call and aplogize! This is on the tip of things to come.

    Hillary will get her last laugh I know she will.

    • lark

      Undoubtedly.

    • Lizzy

      The real joke is who he apologized to-Nancy Regan. A really old white woman. It must have been sooooo painful for him.

      • pm317

        And I bet she didn’t vote for him!

    • DAB

      That crack about Nancy Reagan having a seance was incredibly weird. Yet most of the press were giddy about a potential new dog.

      Just remember that the wheels of justice grind slowly but eventually catch the prey. Keep the faith!

    • OBushMa

      “Hillary will get her last laugh I know she will.”
      Of course she will. Overambitious underqualified people always get their comeuppance. It’s a matter of how long they can avoid doing actual work, cuz when they do, their inadequacy is exposed.

    • Brendy

      He was also twenty minutes LATE for his first press conference. Oh well, his whole career as ‘president’ will be give the usual pass, minor and horrific mistakes as well.

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    Is anyone shocked by this? Hillary committed TREASON against America by pushing people to vote for this TRAITOR who she damned well knows will destroy this country within six months. She lied and conned her voters into voting for him. Now she gets nothing. And the large percentage of her 18 Million supporters get to cry in their coffee because Hillary will NOT be part of his Presidency. To smack her face on the health care issues is DISGUSTING. But I heard WAY back when she lost the nomination that Teddy Kennedy didn’t want her near the health care bill. The Kennedys do not have any legislation with their name on it. None. JFK died BEFORE Civil Rights were passed. So Teddy has been fighting for YEARS to get the Universal Health Care Bill with the KENNEDY name on it. Yet another dirty back room political BS situation that cost Hillary what she is entitled to. But that’s the Obama way. FILTHY dirty politics. I HOPE TO GOD the people who were too dumb to realize that the Obama support was a smoke screen, and voted for him, are sad as hell now that they know the truth. It’s already starting. Disillusionment Centrail aka the White House.

    • Diana

      I still believe the DNC is going to run someone against her to out the Clintons from Washington in 2010. Everything she’s done will have been for nothing.

      • KFaye

        Near the top of the list of peculiar aspects of this election season was the Clintons extensive campaigning for Barack Obama. At first I assumed Obama was holding out a carrot to Hillary – - pay off debt, a future cabinet post, etc. More and more it is beginning to feel like Obama was holding a stick over the Clintons, not a carrot. Any thoughts?

        • Tuppence411

          I agree something doesn’t quite sit right….
          But it is not her Senate seat. Look at the demographic of the entire New York State. She can not be de-throned by anyone. It’s hers for as long as she wants it, no matter what they throw at her.

          • mimi

            They say hindsight is 20-20. I’m going to say something I never would have imagined myself saying a month ago.

            Maybe it would have been better if Hillary had dropped out of the race when the calls came out after South Carolina.

            I say this mainly because the press/msm was so against her, they gave 0bama a pass as they demonized her, their favorite target. I see now, that if 0bama had been ‘crowned’ after South Carolina, the long exposure until the Convention would have tarnished his ‘image.’ with Hillary out of the picture people would have focused on him and only him. Also, Hillary could have receded into the background and not have been put into the position of campaigning for him so vigorously. This would have especially been true if when she bowed out of the campaign she did so with a statement referring to how she and her husband had been labeled racists and that the last thing she wanted was to remembered this way by a community that she had dedicated her life to supporting.

            Then she should have literally disappeared back into the Senate and let 0bama take centerstage.

            I’ve accepted that all the work we tried to do in derailing his candidacy did not come into fruition. We never were able to connect the dots for American voters. We never had the right proof to make them reject him. What was necessary was to let 0bama do that himself. As he will surely do now that he is POTUS.

            I intend to give him enough of that perverbial rope.

            I don’t know how I feel about Hillary at this point. I do know that I’m not going to demonize her. She’s had enough of that. I really think she was a victim of a political sucker punch. If I blame her for anything it’s for not paying attention to the signs, long before 2007/98. Like the 2004 Dem Convention and all the hoopla surrounding 0bama’s Keynote Speech. And the Illinois Senate race and that he was from Chicago. She should have known that he was ‘dirty’. And finally, she should, at her age, be aware of the level of misogyny in this country. She should have known that the ‘good ole boys’ were going to line up against her and do anything to derail the first female contender for the WH.

            But Hillary for some reason did not pay attention to the signs. On top of that, her campaign may have been sabatoged from within.

            I think Hillary was caught up in being so close to realizing such a monumental goal, that once she was up against the ropes and fighting for her life she flailed instead of stepping back and looking at the big picture.

            I’ve come to suspect that Hillary didn’t have the goods on 0bama. If she had, she would have found someway to get it out without it being tied to her. If she did have it, then it must mean that she couldn’t figure out a way to release it and releasing it herself would have also undone her candidacy.

            It’s too bad that Monday-morning quarterbacking doesn’t win games.

            • socalannie

              Very interesting points. I think there’s a lot to the idea that if she had dropped out earlier, there would’ve been more focus on Bark.

            • RebelCarol

              Don’t forget one thing about Hillary and Bill – they are Centrists and the Dems in power are extreme left liberals. Even though The One is claiming bi-partisanship, he will not work across the aisle. He may claim he is with a few liberal Republicans like Lugar and Hagel, but in the end he and the Dems will ignore the Republicans.

              Nancy, Harry and The One threw Hillary under the bus again after resurrecting her to campaign for The One. I said this would happen in one of my earlier posts. There is no such thing as loyalty and honor in this new Administration.

              Party Unity My Ass. I am disgusted. Oh and don’t get me started on McCain. Talk about loyalty and honor, where is he speaking out against the trashing of Sarah.

      • Andy

        Diana:

        HRC is not up until 2012 (thank G’). She was elected in 2000 and reelected in 2006 for another 6 years term.

        • Diana

          Thank you Andy, I don’t know why I thought it was 2010. That gives me some hope.

      • Typewriterstreaming

        I agree. Their not done destroying the Clintons. It’s like freaking Rome et tu Brute?

        • Diana

          I have a question??? I’m not from New York so I have no idea the laws there. I know some states allow you to run for two offices. We saw that with Delaware this year and Biden. What happens if Obama does screw things up and Hillary wants to run again? Can she run for both in New York. Senate and the President or does she have to give up her re-election bid in order to run for president? If not…I’m thinking the DNC is sneakier than I gave them credit for. What better way to get Hillary out of Washington. If she can’t do both she has to do one or the other. If she chose the presidency and didn’t get elected she’d be out. Has anyone ever successfully trying to unseat a sitting candidate of the same party, done so? Ok I had several questions.

    • Margaret

      Hillary did no such thing. She wants to serve Americans so she paid the price that was needed in order to have that opportunity. She’s a warrior and deserves a lot of credit.

      • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

        Serve America? It was HER OWN ATTORNEY that wrote the letters about the Caucus Fraud that cost her the Nomination when OVomit and the DNC STOLE IT. SHE caught him CHEATING and the DNC told her to go to hell. She hates him. Period. And there is NO such thing as “Party First” which is why the Dems are going to hell and belong there for bringing us OVomit. How many people have already left the “party” that betrayed them? It’s COUNTRY FIRST kids. And if people would have voted that way McCain would be sailing to the White House.

      • Winston

        Is anyone shocked by this? Hillary committed TREASON against America by pushing people to vote for this TRAITOR who she damned well knows will destroy this country within six months.

        I asked this once and PUMAs freaked out. I read on this board the Hillary made 79 campaign appearance for Obama and that it was a new record. The loser never does this to such an extent. So not only did she campaign for Obama and Murtha but she did it a record number of times.

    • PamFlorida

      Do you think that Sen. Kennedy will be well enough to return to the Senate anytime soon?

    • Country First

      Too bad Hillary didn’t put Country First, like Lady Lynn. All those excuses–they’ll blame her if he loses–they’ll ruin her career–and on, and on–so what has she gained? I was so disappointed, watching her campaign for him after she told the world he was not qualified. She allowed herself to be a door mat for the DNC and Obama, and for what??? I hate it that most Hillary supporters couldn’t think for themselves and realize that an Obama presidency would more than likely end any hope for a Hillary presidency.

      • McPalin

        hate it that most Hillary supporters couldn’t think for themselves and realize that an Obama presidency would more than likely end any hope for a Hillary presidency.

        Me too. Puma’s punked Hillary.

      • Winston

        Hillary is pure politics. She should never have become Obama pawn. Obama has 99 problems but Hillary ain’t one of them.

  • workingclass artist

    I am not surprised at all…I expect the DNC to do to her what they did to Liberman in CT….I doubt she’ll keep her senate seat…sheeesh!

    • Patti

      I live in Ny. And kept my registration with the Democrats. There are quite a few pissed off or annoyed New Yorkers. First she said he cant do it, then she campaigned for him. Thats one group. Then you have the Obama supporters who still think she didnt do enough.

      She played the game that was required of her, not sure how it will effect her come re election. And then you have to wonder who will the republicans put up against her if she wins the primary. All very interesting things to think about. Plus the added all DEMOCRAT NY. Oh my…

  • ritamary

    Can’t wait to see what happens when Obama is in the national spotlight all the time and has to deliver on his promises. If the first press conference is a sample of what to expect, Hillary is better off keeping her distance.

    • BerlinBerlin

      so true.

    • DAB

      Dull, dull, dull. Was it my imagination or was there also s dark cloud surrounding him. I’m sure that I saw one.

    • TeakWoodKite

      I wonder what BO’s “half-life” is.

  • Typewriterstreaming

    I really have zippo sympathy for Hillary. I don’t respect her choice to back King LIar.

    • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

      I guess it’s like this…I wouldn’t watch my best friend (in her case America) drink poison so that I could save my own butt. Not very noble. As someone else said, she could have taken the hit for telling the truth about OVomit and eventually won the battle when America caught up and FINALLY saw Ovomit for what he is. Very sad. I know people here get their azzes chewed for saying one negative word about Queen Hillary. But, look what happened. The thing she cares the most about, health care, and she (yet again) got kicked to the curb like a dog. And I have to live with the fact that MILLIONS of Obama voters did it because “Hillary told them to” when they would have voted McCain had she been honest.

      • Typewriterstreaming

        I think the Clintons did all this floor mopping to win back the favor of the AA community. It won’t happen. Here in NY in my small circle mention the Clintons and the Obamabot AA I know say -”racist”. They really think the Clintons were racist and it’s really sad.

        • Tuppence411

          The AA community turning on the Clintons was a personal blow, but not a political blow. Hispanics and AA account for about equal numbers in the population of New York. Their support can not sway state wide or even city wide elections, only district races. Charlie Rangle has a lot to fear, but not Hillary Clinton. It was hurtful personally, but not politically to her future in New York.

          • Lauraks

            I’ve alot of family in NY where Hillary is highly respected.

        • http://cinie.wordpress.com Cinie

          Hillary never lost the black vote. She and Bill did whatever they did for their own reasons, which we may never know. But according to AP, it would be a mistake to write HRC off.

          http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081108/ap_on_el_pr/party_vs_ideology;_ylt=At001wrXYo9Q0UfOOsTFHxlsnwcF

          What if it had been Hillary?

          There’s no way to be sure, but she might have won by even more than Obama did.

          Voters in the Obama-McCain race said they would have preferred Hillary Rodham Clinton over McCain by 51 percent to 41 percent, a larger margin than Obama’s 53-46 win.

          Among the differences: Women say they would have backed Clinton over McCain by 18 percentage points, bigger than Obama’s 12-point advantage with them. Whites favored McCain over Obama by 12 points but leaned toward the Republican by a narrower 5 points against Clinton. Eighty-six percent of blacks would have backed Clinton — solid, but shy of the 95 percent who supported Obama. Clinton almost matched the two-thirds of people under age 30 who voted for Obama, but nearly one in 10 of them said they wouldn’t have bothered voting at all.

        • mimi

          “They really think the Clintons were racist and it’s really sad.”

          Read my post above.

          What you said is true. This why I commented the way I did.

      • McPalin

        Her stumping for Obama and getting 80% of her votes makes me feel invisible and abandoned given the fact that we are heading for some rough times with an Obama presidency. Rough times = the end of the constitution and democracy. She betrayed me.

        • /www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo&eurl trixta

          She survived! Stop whining and blaming HRC.

          We PUMAs should have given her more votes by voting for McCain/Palin instead of not voting or voting Green or choosing to write in her name. We had the power and we blew it. The truth hurts, but there it is.

          I converted three people in my Dem family to vote for McCain/Palin. How many did you convert?

      • beachnan

        Just like you get angry when Palin gets hit over the head. Many of us still love Hillary and would back her in an instance if she chose to run again. Many of us are still Dems and except for the fact that we are pissed as hell at the party, we still admire her. I like Palin, although I don’t agree with her politics. Hillary’s understanding of policies is superior to Palin’s.

        • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

          Palin didn’t do the same thing. Sorry. If she did I would have issues with it. You have the right to feel the way you do. Like I said, I put my money where my mouth is and tried to get Obama booted off the Ballot in Denver. I tried. So lay off of me. I don’t like that she pushed Obama on this country. And when your life is shite, which it WILL be, then you might rethink your feelings too. Until then, I respect your feelings, please respect mine and all the other people here who feel violated.

        • Winston

          Hillary = Party First
          Palin = Country First

          Hillary’s understanding of policies politics as usual is superior to Palin’s.

    • Northwest rain

      I’m working really hard to believe that Clinton has/had a plan — but so far I cannot see one.

      She did campaign like NO OTHER MALE would have if he had been stabbed in the back by the party like she was.

      By O-zero’s history we know that he cannot lead.

      The best example was when he was given “leadership” of a meeting during the negotiations for the bail out — the meeting turned into a screaming match between the participants.

      If that dummy could not keep a lid on that meeting — he is NO leader. And it will become very evident as the days go by that he will be an absolute failure — and millions will suffer.

      So in part — she made sure he didn’t lose — so part of the responsibility for his massive failure will be laid at her feet.

      She was too damned enthusiastic and apparently made no bargain at all????????????

      I will continue to hold on to the hope that she has a plan. But I can’t see it.

      Right now all I see is the typical abused women and she is covering for her abuser.

      What a wonderful lesson for all women.

      There will NEVER be a female President in most of our life times. The worship at the alter of the Penis will continue.

      • lark

        Right now all I see is the typical abused women and she is covering for her abuser.

        That’s my take.

        • Typewriterstreaming

          Yeah. and it’s plain awful to watch. Sends a really bad, bad message.

        • OBushMa

          Washington politics is still an old boys’ game, so no surprise. Compound that with the misogyny in the culture encouraged by the media, a woman politician can only hope to survive in such hostile environment.

          Of course, I had hoped Hillary would fight tooth and nail and go third party. But that’s putting a big burden on her 60-yo shoulders. If she were 10 year younger and not saddled with Bill’s legacy, I think she would have gone for it.

        • /www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo&eurl trixta

          When people around you (the contender) are being assassinated or happen to die conveniently at a crucial time in the primaries (the Convention), you would campaign the way she did. There were death threats issued to people who just asked questions about Obama, so perhaps she and her family were threatened as well.

          Also, if she hadn’t campaign for Obama in the way that she did, they would be saying now that this is “proof” that she is a racist.

          There was too much happening behind the scenes for us to make accusation against HRC.

          As I said before, we PUMAs blew it my letting the (October surprise) “economic crisis” scare us into voting for BO.

      • beebop

        Rahm will bite the ankles of anyone who doesn’t stfu during barky’s meetings. And ask you self this … wasn’t the expression “herding cats” created for a group of Democrats? This is what everyone wanted, let’s watch the fun. After four years of Galt’s pizza, we’ll be wearing sweat suits and looking exactly like his green character.

        • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

          I resemble that remark! :shock:

          • Typewriterstreaming

            LOL.

          • Zeke

            Rollin, Rolling, Rolling…

        • mimi

          It’s ‘good cop/bad cop.’

  • http://firefox AnnieCollier

    Didn’t he refer (when he had Bill standing next to him) to his economic plan (asking for Bill’s expertise) the “Obama/Clinton Economic Plan? Or was that for just a day?

    Yeah, he’s such a woman hater. HRC will never get her name on anything and…she did this to herself. I know, it was an impossible situation but that’s how you get a “Profiles in Courage” award…by going for what’s right not what’s politically expedient.

    Of course, Caroline might not give her one until she’s 75 or 80 but….oh, well Caroline is not very supportive of women anyway.

    • Margaret

      And if she had done what was right, the new administration would have welcomed her with open arms?

      • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

        John McCain is close friends with Hillary. He would have done something for her. It must have killed her to HAVE to go out and lie and trash McCain, her friend, for OVomit. That’s the thing that killed me. And all along McCain did nothing but say kind things about her. I hate politics. I’m in the film business and these dirty politicians make us look like the frigging CLERGY.

        • makeji

          Well, he has yet to speak up for Sarah. All of these men pols are jerks.

        • AnninCA

          She really didn’t trash him. She did disagree with his policies, and I think she sincerely disagrees.

          They can be friends and still have different perspectives on how the country should proceed.

          • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

            She did trash him and bad. I heard every word of it. No she didn’t call him a c**ksucker. If that’s what you are looking for. It wasn’t personal. But it was way over the top for two people who are friends. And a bunch of lies. She perpetuated that CRAP about McCain = Bush which is old, tired and just plain a LIE.

        • Andy

          HRC never trashed McCain nor Palin. She was very careful and always talked about “Democratic policies” and having a democrat as POTUS to enact them. Only towrds the end she even mention BO’s name. No more.
          So let’s not start some sort of snow ball size meme about HRC trashing anyone that completely false; and only serves to feed the HRC bashing.

          BO, the DNC and his voters are the ones responsible for this.

          NOT HRC. STOP IT.

          • Typewriterstreaming

            I believe you are right HRC never bashed Palin or McCain once. I thought she handled that incredibly well.

            • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

              CNN just showed detailed Clip of Hillary in FLA trashing McCain/Palin…

              —————————————-

              See above. It’s the start of a thread but the CNN video seems to be not available anymore. I will find it. I just came from an Obama site with this as an entire thread and the whole thread they are talking about what a “great job she did of trashing McCain.” I HEARD IT.

        • Five Thirty

          Comment by OBAMA IS A FRAUD | 2008-11-09 16:51:22
          John McCain is close friends with Hillary. He would have done something for her. It must have killed her to HAVE to go out and lie and trash McCain, her friend, for OVomit.

          OIAF: it is very important to remember what the GOP did to the Clintons in the ’90s. HRC was hauled in front of a grand jury. All her records and everything in her life was scrutinized in a fishing expedition. Her friends were hauled in front of grand juries and some of them were imprisoned. And that was the GOP trying to get rid of a popular and effective Democratic Executive. If HRC doesn’t help the GOP then tough on the GOP.

          • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

            I’m confused. Why is it when you talk about THIS election people go back to talking about the GOP and Bush? I was under the impression that two wrongs never made a right? No? I stick by this…

            Never in our history has there been a bigger threat to our country than OVomit. Never. And Hillary promoted it. No excuse. Country FIRST. Look where we are now. The Dems, the Clintons, and the DNC brought us this anti-America THUG and the destruction of America. I don’t see how the GOP is responsible. If this were Gore, Kerry, etc. none of us would feel this way. It would be, okay the Dems won this one. Not this time. America is gone, and the left wing liberals WANTED socialism and the destruction of America’s liberties. I don’t have to like it, accept it, or accept the blame because yet again it’s Bush’s fault that the DNC cheated, stole the election, and now America is NO LONGER. WTF? We already HAD a thread about it being MCCAIN’S FAULT that OVomit got elected. WHY DON’T THE DEMS EVER TAKE RESPONSIBILITY TO FANNIE AND FREDDIE, OVOMIT, CONGRESS, ETC.? Every single time you ask one Dem to take responsibility for and own their mess they say one word – BUSH. What in the world are you guys going to do when you can’t blame him anymore? Just curious. Or when OVomit FAILS MISERABLY with his lunatic fringe, left wing, COMMIE plans to turn America into CUBA, is that BUSH’S FAULT TOO?

            • Five Thirty

              What I said about the GOP and HRC does not involve GW Bush. You might not know the history of the Clinton years in office and what the GOP did to destroy him. This information is pertinent in understanding why HRC might not consider a GOP administration, even with John McCain, a good thing and that even a DNC that stabbed her in the back might be preferable. When you bash Sen Clinton remember – the GOP acted in a vile and despicable manner towards the Clintons and the Democratic Party when WJC was in office.

              • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

                I’m still WTF about all of that. We’re in a massive CRISIS now. Hillary made her voters vote for him. Right now, that’s all I care about. I didn’t vote for Bush and wasn’t a registered Republican until exactly three months ago. I don’t give a F**K anymore about Bush and the GOP. I care about my country. And the fact that Hillary promoted this prick who will destroy it.

                And she WOULD have done WAY better with MCCAIN in office. Uh…you know… THE GUY WHO PICKED A WOMAN.

                • mimi

                  OBIAF,

                  You need to get a life!

                  Seriously, you are as bad as the right wing wackos who obsessively hate Hillary and Bill Clinton.

                  What exactly haven’t you processed about the percentages of Tuesday’s election results?

                  The Republicans stayed home!

                  Got it?

                  That’s what turned the tide on the election. McCain got 2.5 million democratic votes. If the Repubs had voted, 0bama would have been slaughtered. Women voted for 0bama in LARGE NUMBERS and he won the Jewish vote. Hillary didn’t win all these groups for him. You are spinning bullshit.

                  The msm selected 0bama. Hillary never had a chance with them on his side. If anything her staying as long as she did, kept the heat off of him and helped him more than any campaigning.

                  Hillary backed herself into a corner and the only way for her to get out was to do the campaign thing.

                  I am angry too about him winnning. But once I saw that Republicans stayed home in such large numbers, then I realized that it was they who really turned the tide.

                  What?

                  You think Democrats were going to elect John McCain?

                  Not in this Universe. And he did in fact turn a few states blue.

                  The economy is what turned the tide, not Hillary.

                  Geez, stop with the Hillary-bashing! She did not win this election for him. The Republicans were the difference. Not her!

                  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

                    LMFAO Mimi. Typical liberal response. “It’s not our fault.” I guess BUSH nominated Obama. When this country is finally burned to the ground it will be ONE party and ONE party only’s blame. The DEMS. We did everything we could to tell the truth about him, but HILLARY who knew the truth didn’t help. Sorry, I have a right to think what I think and many other people feel the same way, as you can read. The bottom line is that Obama is where he is because of the Dems. NO OTHER REASON. How about the voter fraud by the Dems? The purchasing of the MEDIA, the lies, the cheating? Guess Bush did all that too. What a joke. And please don’t even insult me again. I don’t do that to you people. And I have a right to my opinion.

                  • /www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo&eurl trixta

                    MIMI, I am so with you on this one. The HRC bashing has got to stop in the face of the realities of the election and low Repub turn out.

                    Also, I think those women who originally supported HRC, but then decided to support Obama also are to blame. They chickened out and now the Left has its very own GWB.

            • McPalin

              Never in our history has there been a bigger threat to our country than OVomit. Never. And Hillary promoted it.

              I feel so betrayed by her and the PUMAS.
              I wonder if anyone really realizes the danger we are in? The (un)fairness doctrine is on the march and will be enacted sooner than you think. (any day now) THAT WILL BE THE DEMISE OF ALL OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. The domino effect goes into play..
              Maybe I’ll move to Alaska and wait until they sede from US..

              • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

                I can’t believe there even EXISTS something like the BS Fairness Doctrine. But I will NOT honor it, will protest against it, fight it, and I will move to another country until it is reversed.

              • http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com InsightAnalytical-GRL

                Don’t blame THIS Puma! We’re still fighting, us DAMES at Insight….,

                Tomorrow: the Wallace-Couric connection…vs Palin

              • NoBamaNoWay

                i was thinking the same thing. i’m already in western south dakota (which i’m thankful for, giving the coming obamization of america), but we south dakotans are too mild mannered to try seceding. seems like alaska would have the best chance.

            • TeakWoodKite

              OIAF, Harry Ried on the floor of the Senate ring a bell?

              The dems will leave grandma out on an icepack for the polar bears before they would “man up”.

              Both of these groups comprise “The Freak Show”. Except for a few elected moral conscripts, we will not see the “justice we knew” ever again.

              • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

                TeakWoodKite,

                I understand. Like I said, if this were Gore, Kerry, etc. No PROBLEM. It would be lame I think if Kerry won. But the RAGE I feel at these people for creating this Frankenstein and not vetting him properly. Ughhh….the first thing to go? Our First Amendment Rights. And a bunch of fools will sit by and one by one watch our liberties stripped?

                I couldn’t BELIEVE what I saw on OVomit’s website. That nonsense about REQUIRED COMMUNITY SERVICE. Wow….just….WOW. My parents would have flipped him the finger and said “come get me” if he tried to pull that crap on me in HIGH SCHOOL. Who the HELL does he think he is? HE WORKS FOR ME. I PAY HIS FRIGGING SALARY. So where does he get off taking away my CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS?

                Guess he realized that his indentured servitude “REQUIRED COMMUNITY SERVICE” wasn’t cool with the Constitution, so it got scrubbed of the site. Until he and Ayers stand on the WH front lawn and burn the Constitution for fun.

                • csuzeq

                  My kids are not doing it and neither am I. I attend college and my son will start next year and we’ll pass on the $4000 per year before we give up our freedom to choose. Wasn’t that the RvW argument?

                  They will need to pry my American freedoms from my cold, dead hands and I will do jail time or a concetration camp before I serve this guy who is not even eligible to hold the title!

                  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

                    HEAR HEAR! I will go to jail long before I accept ANY of his BULLSHITE policies. HE’S NOT MY PRESIDENT. He’ll have to pry my freedoms out of my dead hands too. And I would imagine that the concentration camp is a reality. Apparently they are already built. I’m ready.

                    • TeakWoodKite

                      “He’ll have to pry my freedoms out of my dead hands…”
                      Welcome to the MidEast?
                      I am not trying to snark here but with Bush it was fight ‘em over there, with BO? Looks more like over here.

                      No arguement here with any of it. Csuzeq or OIAF.

                • /www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo&eurl trixta

                  This “volunteer” work is all a front to brainwash and create his own Obama Army.

          • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

            PS She DID help the GOP. She and Bill helped McCain strategize his campaign. Guess who probably helped him pick Palin? Maybe another woman who got dissed by the sexist pigs.

            • TeakWoodKite

              PS. What is the standard of Behavior for the office of POTUS?

              At the moment it is “Sex,Lies and Video Tapes. We have seen the first two. It won’t be long for the other shoe to drop.

        • Winston

          It must have killed her to HAVE to go out and lie and trash McCain, her friend, for OVomit.

          Politicians don’t have the normal accompaniment of such emotions. I don’t think she lost a moment sleep over backing Obama. She did for her own self-preservation. While the rest of us would gives our lives not to have Obama as presendent, she didn’t want to have to get a new job.

      • Typewriterstreaming

        “And if she had done what was right, the new administration would have welcomed her with open arms?”

        They would have given her the boot just as they are now. But women in this country would have had one heck of a powerful example. I would have worked my heart out for that Hillary. That’s who I thought I was fighting for during the Primaries. Not any more. I thought the point was to do what was right. Not making a choice based on what would please some new administration. I thought choosing what was right was what America stood for. Silly me.

        • Margaret

          I can see what you mean. I respect her right to make her own choices. But still, we women are now left so bereft.

  • Chicago Joe

    Everybody get used to it. The Chicago way. Here is a link from today regarding Rezko, Daley, Blago.
    http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/rezko/1255204,tony-rezko-mayor-daley-home-depot-deal-110208.stng

    • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

      Ughhhh…It just gets worse every day.

      • Betty Lou

        Weird they closed that deal the day after 9.11.

        Doesn’t mean anything, just weird.

    • jbjd

      This came out before the election. Actually, even despite the misfeasance of the MSM, any one of a million facts I discovered about BO’s incestuousness relations with gangsters, hoodlums, and thugs, by searching out information on the internet, would have been enough to convince me not to vote for him.

      • NoBamaNoWay

        correct; corruption and partisanship are the biggest problems in washington, and america just elected the king of chicago thugs to run it. i can hardly wait.

    • TeakWoodKite

      Interesting chronology of land deals.

      Also, I wonder what the inside baseball was on the re-districting in 2001. We know that Obama had a change for the rich streets. What a Scam.

  • Jackarooty

    I had heard that her name was being bandied about for Secretary of State and after emailing my sister about it this is what she wrote back to me…

    NO…HE’S DONE. HE DOESN’T NEED HER ANYMORE AND HE WILL DO EVERYTHING HE CAN TO MARGINALIZE THEM UNTIL HE MAY NEED THEM AGAIN.

    • Andy

      jackarooty:

      I have the painful feeling your sister is correct….As Jennifer Rubin says (see post above) her bargaining power is gone….

  • http://www.anvp.typepad.com/soldier4hillary soldier4hillary

    She got screwed all the way around. I understood and know that if she would not have campaigned for him and he lost it would be her fault. She could of thrown the kitchen sink at him and bought up those associations of his and it would only backlash against her. They wanted him. period. The Dem elite made there choice.She still fought to the end while knowing they were for BO.

    What pisses me off is the ones who jumped on ship with him because he was being “nice” to Hillary and they all had stars in there eyes thinking she would get something for her hard work.

    How ironic. BO got some of her supporters votes and off to the curb she goes.

    • Andy

      soldier4hillary:

      But thos suupporters should have asked themselves: is BO paying off he rdebt in exchange for example? No, he wasn’t… So these supporters should have see this coming… I knew it, that as soon as he won he would kick HRC hard under the bus.

      Very sad…

      I agree with Northwest rain that I pray she has a plan…

      • McHope

        Well, she got what she asked for, didn’t she?
        And so will the rest of us.
        She is the only one who could have stopped him.And guess what? Her political future wouldn’t be anymore in shambles than it is right now. She, like the media, and all those who dumped all their principles to support a fraud have negated their own usefulness.

      • TeakWoodKite

        No Plan at the moment, she does not. I would have loved being a fly on the wall when they meet at Sen Fienstiens cabin in DC…

    • Newly Independent

      The writing was on the wall when Obama didn’t pick Hillary as VP.

      How many more clues did those Hillary/Obama voters need to realize that they were going to be used and thrown away by the Obamabrats?

    • NoBamaNoWay

      the best revenge will be when america turns on its new chimperor, just like it turn on bush. the parallels with bush are uncanny, except obama is 10X as crooked.

  • http://ahillarybmccainamericafirst.com Gerard McNedich

    more obscene hilarity from Dear Leader:

    http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/07/what-the-hell-is-the-office-of-the-president-elect/

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

    • Andy

      Gerard: was that extremely bizarre??? Exactly WTH is “The office of the President Elect” and how creepy was to see the Emperor in his lectern with that sign on during his press conf. ??

      Are we surprised noone in the MSM ask: wait a minute: WTH is that?? That sign was the seal all over again. Bo has a serious ego problem…

    • Andy

      Gerard:

      Wasn’t that extremely bizarre??? Exactly WTH is “The office of the President Elect” and how creepy was to see the Emperor in his lectern with that sign on during his press conf. ??

      Are we surprised noone in the MSM ask: wait a minute: WTH is that?? That sign was the seal all over again.

      BO has a serious ego problem…

    • http://www.deathofthedemocraticparty.com xax

      I can’t help but laugh.

      He’s laughable.

      • http://www.deathofthedemocraticparty.com xax

        The phrase exists, but it’s not a title. It’s just a phrase used to refer to the next person taking over.

        Did Bush refer to himself as President Elect? I can’t remember.

        If not, maybe Bush isn’t as self absorbed as Obama like I thought.

        This was a comment from the site:

        “This make-believe-office-creation is a half step away from Obama pinning fake military ribbons on himself.”

        Official name change

        From:
        Barack “I got a bracelet too” Obama

        To:
        Barack “I was tortured for five years and recieved the purple heart too” Obama

        See everyone. You too can be a war hero if you just say you are.

      • DAB

        All those comedians who are having such a hard time making jokes about Obama should just follow their noses. All those faux seals and signs would provide them with a good start. Plenty of Obama Ha Ha’s out there guys!

        I recall a recent SNL skit that had BO whining to a world dictator that disagreeing with him was racist — going on and one about how he doesn’t look like your usual President etc. It was pretty funny but all the MSM could replay are Tina Fey doing Ms. Sarah.

    • AnninCA

      I read where he’s hawking for money for the move to the White House. ?????????????

      He’s just a bit of an odd duck.

      • Mr. Natural

        He works the rubes like a preacherman.

      • Elizabeth

        I wouldn’t be shocked if the medical records are being suppressed for episodes of mental counseling or drug treatment.

  • bert

    Don’t desert Hillary now. I wish she could have done something to defeat Obama. But she could not. That is the fact of the matter. As NQ said in paragraph three of this post – I ache for Hillary. She did what she had to do if she was going to have any career at all. I will continue to support her in her time of need. And maybe, just maybe she will have a chance to shine again. Politics is strange that way. And if she does, I will be there in line to help in any way I can.

    • Mira

      I think Hillary Clinton could have done plenty if she’d put country first. Apparently, 84% of HRC supporters voted for Obama. I believe he couldn’t have got elected without her support and the endorsement of President Clinton.

      Obama attempted repeatedly to humilate Hillary Clinton. She was knocked out of the race unethically and then she turns around and asks her supporters, probably a great % women, to support Obama. What kind of example is that to women or to anyone for that matter?

      • Northwest rain

        This is the reality —

        She was never given her due and given a full roll call vote.

        Obama is a very dangerous person — and he is now in a position to do unlimited harm.

        I can’t see a silver lining in any of this.

        Hopefully the Republicans will get their act together and mount a strong offense. But they are turning out to be wimps as well.

        Obama is mentally ILL — everything about him is an illusion.

        • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

          Obama is mentally ILL — everything about him is an illusion.

          He scares the crap out of any normal, decent person. I still don’t buy that he “won.” I knew too many people freaked out by him. I call BS and Voter Fraud.

          • Rocky Mountain High

            Don’t you find it odd, that Obama won each and every battleground state????

            Something doesn’t smell right here…ok I’ll give him one or two, but all of them????

            I too doubt that he really won…I think they hacked the vote, or there was massive voter fraud. One black guy got on the news after the election in PA and bragged about voting for Obama 100 times! How many people did that?

            I do not believe he legally won each and every battleground state.

            Me thinks – voter fraud may be his achillees heel.

        • csuzeq
          • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

            I donated to that cause and hope everyone will do so too. Thanks.

      • wodiej

        good point…I have conflicted feelings. All I can say is I would not make a good politician because I am too honest and hold ethics and values in high esteem. There is no way I could have went out there and supported that son of a bitch Obama. After the way he treated Hillary, if I was her, nope couldn’t do it.. In addition to that he is just plain despicable. Sure bet she thought they would let her work on healthcare. They do not give a shit about her.

        • beebop

          It was up to her to get the deal before she took to campaigning. It was up to her and to Bill to make sure they got their goodies the same way that Kerry is going to get … gag … sec of state for doing f’ing nothing. So. I think that if she went out on a limb for him and got nothing, then she’s not nearly as smart as we all gave her credit for.

          • beachnan

            Or Beebop could it be, that people trusted him, when no one should trust him. There doesn’t seem to be, one ounce of loyalty in his bony body. (my wish is that Bill and Hillary have some way of getting back at “the One”.

      • FranSC

        I agree, Mira. After June the 7th, most of us understood Hillary basically had a gun to her head in terms of not only “appearing to support Obama”, but with demands of as much enthusiasm as she and Bill had for her own candidacy or else be blamed for a loss – a tall order that they basically delivered.

        It left those of us who refused to get onboard the Obama train for very principled, factual reasons feeling that somehow something was wrong with “us”. I do think we are owed some explanation here. Had BO lost, we would have probably gotten that, but with him headed to the White House, I’m afraid we have a long wait for any explanation from the Clintons. There will be others who will speak out that will have to suffice.

    • Winston

      Don’t desert Hillary now. I wish she could have done something to defeat Obama.

      YOU MEAN LIKE NOT HELPING HIM WIN BY CAMPAIGNING FOR HIM. She set a new world record in that respect.

      Our country suffers because she didn’t want to have to get a new job. How sick is that.

  • http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312 VinceP1974

    “In the end, it’s President Obama
    who’s going to lead the effort for us,”
    Myers told Inside Health Policy.

    Michael Myers kills me (and Laurie Strode).

    • beachnan

      I hope BO and his cohorts fall on their collective asses when it comes to health insurance.

    • /www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo&eurl trixta

      This means that we won’t get any meaningful health care reform—just as his backers wanted.

  • http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312 VinceP1974

    I’m sure both Clinton’s are Persona Non Grata for Bill’s subtle Double-Agent type comments during the campaign.

    • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

      I am not a Bill Clinton lover…But I will say this…I am glad that he had the BALLZ to give the secret code words that told the intelligent people in America what he really thought about OVomit – and it was HIGHLARIOUS to watch. Go Bill. I thank him for that. The PROBLEM was America has been so dumbed down that they missed it.

      • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

        Been dumbed down all along. That’s what I’ve been trying to tell you! Until someone takes the generations to fix that (if it is indeed fixable) humanity will go from one disastrous “empire” to the next. Most people on this blog are pretty cluefull but this is the exception to the rule of the human condition. Until clufulness reaches a quorum we are FUBAR. And people with PhDs and JDs can be just as clueless as anyone else and are the most dangerous, like Emperor OBonaparte himself.

        • TeakWoodKite

          well cooked Galt…I smell the cheese and toppings wafting from out of the kithen..

          PS. I really like that fact that all your employees seem so happy.

  • Doc99

    And now Mrs. Clinton is truly NY’s junior senator, reduced to carrying Chuck You Schumer’s bags.

    • DAB

      Speaking of Chucky boy, did you hear that he is calling Conservative programming pornographic? The Republicans are having hissy fits that the Dem’s intended passage of the Fairness Doctrine will silence Hannity and Limbaugh for good. Obama disdainfully mentioned Hannity during the campaign on a number of occasions and I’m sure that he has put a big target on him.

      • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

        This is when we all revolt. Like I said, I was born AMERICAN and I will DIE AMERICAN. The First Amendment is MY RIGHT. And I will HAVE THAT RIGHT. And Oscumbag will NEVER take it away. Never. If they try we will find an underground way to keep doing what we do. And if the lemmings who voted for him tolerate it we will just keep fighting. This is an ABSOLUTE. Chuck Schumer will NOT be wiping his fat azz with MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

  • jean breban

    Hillary should have read Machiavel.

    She had a lot to win helping MacCain destroy Obama, including getting the credit for Health Care.

    She had nothing to win helping Obama.

    The first was a dare shot, with high reward.

    The other was a dare shot, with no reward.

    American politicians maybe are clever in day to day Washington politics. They are nuts on the long run.

    • wodiej

      if Hillary had helped McCain and denounced Obama alot of her supporters would have followed her. But I think they felt because Obama is part black, people would have been rioting and they probably would have. Nice way to win eh? Just threaten violence if you don’t get your way. I would hate to have to be in her shoes. They screwed her out of the nomination and now screwing her again. If I was her and Bill, I’d not run again after this term and I’d just disappear for awhile. What slimy fuck Obama is. They simply do not want the Clintons to have any input in Obama’s agenda AT ALL. That’s fine. let that stupid arrogant ass go it alone.

    • FranSC

      We see what is happening to Joe Lieberman and he is an democrat turned independent, but caucuses with the democrats. He stands to lose his committee assignments or be ‘demoted’. Harry Reid was saying yesterday how angry they all are at Lieberman.

      Had Hillary supported McCain, they would probably vote her out of the senate. You really cannot cross party lines in politics other than sponsoning some legislation with the other side. In the end, if you cross that line, neither side claims you.

  • wodiej

    Perhaps Hillary was stuck in that if dickhead Obama had lost, she would have been blamed. But what she and Bill need to do is offer as little help as possible and when Hillary’s term is up, they should just both go find a nice vacation spot in the Bahamas or Carribean and let this asshole fend for himself. He’ll think he doesn’t need them. I’m sorry but he’s an arrogant son of a bitch. He doesn’t want either of them stealing his limelight because you know…it’s all about him and blacks not getting a fair shake. He can go straight to hell for all I care.

  • fiscalliberal

    As a financial supporter of Hillary I was dismayed that she supported Obama the way she did. I guess that is what politics is in the Democratic party which is why I discontinued my membership.

    I have some hope that the NQ blog will serve to keep tabs on Obama promises and the record on all fronts. While the Obamaphiles attempt to compare Obama to FDR and Kennedy we need to recognize that Obama does not have the experience these people had.

    Obama is clearly a Dan Quayle type person. Quayle had a smart wife – not even certain Obama has that

    • Betty Lou

      I gave her money, too, but I never received any solicitations from Obama’s campaign through her, after she withdrew.

      I thought that was classy, so I stayed on her list.

      Kerry’s campaign, (and Edwards as well) gave my email to Obama, I unsubscribed from every PAC, with the exception of Clinton, and a few others.

      • RebelCarol

        Hey everybody, I think it is time to put the old “What could have been” cliche to bed. The facts are: Hillary should have won the nomination – she didn’t. Hillary should have been picked as VP – she wasn’t. Hillary campaigned for Obama with the hope of being chosen for some prime committee – she wasn’t. Hillary asked for the Health Care Committee -she got screwed again.

        It is now time for us to stand together and fight to get our Country back. How? Start writing to all your state’s Senators and Representatives, both Democrat and Republican. Let your feelings be known to them (respectfully of course). Start working for your city, county and state candidates that have the same ideologies as you and get them elected.

        Remember, the name of this blog is No Quarter! You all know that means “Take No Prisoners”. Fight on!

  • Pat Racimora

    I ache for Hillary also–and have my own conflicted feelings. I know she didn’t believe anything positive she said about Obama, and it was irritaing to hear her do it.

  • AnninCA

    I doubt seriously she would have wanted that role. I can imagine the comments made when they hit bumps in the road….

  • Goblintrain

    I am still scratching my head as to what merit this empty suit has to be dismissing a Clinton so easily. Big mistake!

  • lark

    I knew it. Anyways she’ll get it once Kennedy goes kaput. But the health care issue a la Hillary is dead anyways. Her proposal cannot compete with McCain’s. Not that the Dems will take up McCain’s but now after McCain voiced his excellent proposal, Hillary’s, would be out of the question.

    Kennedy will have to redraw something new.

    • Betty Lou

      I dont expect any significant imrovement, I think it will be a sham, another band aid in the form of Bush’s tax cuts, they’ll appear to write policy helpful to the consumer, but will aid their donors through the back door, simply a carrot to the public to keep Americans quiet for awhile.

      Clinton, on the other hand, takes no crap, isn’t a lackey, maybe she would prove too difficult for their schemes, remember, it was Tony Rezko who ran the IL hospital planning board — promptly stealing money, stacking the board, demanding bribes, and kickbacks, crimes for which he was convicted.

      I was watching an episode of I Love Lucy the other night, Lucy and the gang were in Monte Carlo, Lucy walking into a casino, (after Ricky told her not to) and finding a chip on the floor, picks it up as to be gracious. Distractedly placing it back on the table, she promptly beat the house.

      So, the dealer would push the chips back to Lucy, her winnings, and Lucy would protest, pushing the pot back, the chips always landing on the right number.

      After about seven round of this, she won, what, something like 100, 000 francs.

      I wonder if this is how they do it with Obama?

      Il-Chicago, don’t forget.

      It’s corrupt.

  • Betty Lou

    The IL situation, which is also connected to Washington, and elsewhere, — can it be considered RICO?

    Everything Fitzgerald investigates is connected, from Blago, to White House fundraiser Bill Cellini, to Conrad Black, Scooter, Plame, Rezko to Obama…

    The same people seem to show up, over and over.

    I remember reading a book on Robert Hanssen, (FBI special agent, traitor); Louis Freeh, then director, was quoted as initiating an investigation against world wide organized crime in conjunction with Russia, sometime late in Clinton’s second term.

    I wonder if this is somehow connected, given Obama’s international support through Chicago, and guys like Rezko?

  • Lyn

    ARRESTED IN PHILLY FOR WEARING A mc cain t shirt after the election Obama mess http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94N1TkuLWss&eurl=http://ace.mu.nu/

    • Andy

      OMG… Is this for real?? That video is scary…

    • McPalin

      Whoa. Did you see all the (R)Obots?

  • linad

    Third party anyone, for people in the center, I’m ready. Hillary and McCain have more in common than their parties do because they’re more centrist. It’s funny how Obama and Bush have alot in common on the deceit aspect. Why not stranger things have happen like one Bozo after another getting elected president. They would be the moderates the balance between the extremes, the center party,not a bad name? Mabe it’s just a dream but not an impossible one, I know it won’t happen but it would be nice.

  • http://moniquemonicat.wordpress.com/2008/11/01/%E2%80%A2-obama-antichrist-antimessiah-anti-israel-anti-you-%E2%80%A2-the-blood-of-jesus-stands-against-you-obama/ MoniQue

    Personally, I think McCain supports Palin, but the ObamAntiChrist and his Chicago Machine, lying press, et al, may have caused McCain extreme exhaustion. He is 72 years old and the fight with ObamaChrist (antichrist) and the media may just prove to be a losing battle.

    Obama is a very evil man and the spiritual aspect of even doing research on this MONSTER is immense.

    HE’S NOT EVEN A US CITIZEN:

    SIGN THE PETITION TO FORCE OBAMA TO PROVIDE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE: IT TAKES ABOUT 30 SECONDS AND EVEN LINKS TO AUTOMATICALLY WRITE TO YOUR CONGRESS IN YOUR AREA. ALL IN ABOUT 30 SECONDS:

    SIGN ANTI-OBAMA PETITION
    http://moniquemonicat.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/%E2%80%A2-sign-obama-petition/

  • http://mybluecountry.googlepages.com/whattheobamademocratsaresayingposter Linda

    Really Teddy, is it really going to be the Empty One leading the Health Care charge? I thought it was YOU, Senator Kennedy who is writing the Health Care from his home in MA? Silly us.

    Yep, Obama needed Hillary and Bill to close the deal for him and he’s not going to even mention Hillary should get the subcommittee after all the Clintons did for the party and for him, his Wholey Vesselship….you’ve got some many wholes, we can SEE THROUGH YOU!

    • DAB

      Pretty scary — a man recovering from a brain tumor developing a detailed plan to change America forever. Now I’ve heard it all!

  • linad

    I don’t think Obama would have won Florida PA and Ohio if it weren’t for Hillary. He was hugging her in front of everyone in Florida that was a I nned you Hillary moment. Ya she carried his butt over the finish line and not even one thank you evenless a chair on healthcare,what a looser Obama really is!

    • Five Thirty

      If Obama started rewarding Hillary now, Maureen Dowd would start hassling him in the NY Times. Hillary should do legislative things so dry (though important) that it will bore the yo yos in the msm to the degree that they won’t pay attention and leave her alone to do her work.

  • William l Donlon

    I’m a New Yorker and New York is not Connedicut.

    We kicked Jessie’s ass back in 1988 when the Left wing Nazi refered to NYC with his typical black antisemitic smear.

    New York is a “Blue State”, It Loves Hillary but it hates the Left wing Klan and all that it stands for.

    If Obama sides with the Jackson Left Wing KU Kluxers and tries to go Lieberman on Hillary’s ass in 2010 she will win and he will loose New York and his bid for a second term in 2012.

    New York invented “Ball Bat Politics”.

    Take it to the Bank!

    • Andy

      HRC is not up for re-election in 2010… Didn’t she get re-elected in 2006? Then she shouldn’t be up for reelection again until 2012.

  • http://www.deathofthedemocraticparty.com xax

    Just sit back while Rome burns

  • AnninCA

    I doubt Hillary would want that job.

  • ownaa

    If it was beated out of her, blackmailed out of her or paid out of her the fact remained she helped him more than neccessary. I personally think they have something on the Clintons, giving in to a hatefull blackmailer is always a no win. It is sad for every one.

  • IndieDogg

    What bothers me the most about Hillary is how fast she flipped and told what, according to her own voice, were repeated falsehoods.

    Her first, most unguarded, statement about this neophyte guy trying to become POTUS was in Iowa. To paraphrase, it was something like, “Get Serious” — and she took a lot of flack for it. But, it was the truth. Bill’s private notions were, no doubt, even more graphic. And both true.

    Her speech about the heavens opening and all that.

    Her statement about what she, John McCain and Barack Obama brought to the campaign. A lifetime of experience, another lifetime of experience and, for Obama, a speech he gave in 2002.

    If it had been me, as the RNC, I’d have run her statements and Joe Biden’s statements over and over, the only ad I needed. They did it at first but, when Hillary objected, they pulled them.

    What’s the point?

    The quote she could have, but didn’t utter, after the primary was over and she’d been tossed from the DNC train:

    “If my opponent was a scoundrel yesterday, the only intervening factor having been the passage of another night into day, what would you imagine he is this morning?”

    Or to be more kind, you wish him luck and you will do what you can but you will be working, most diligently, for down-ticket Democrats, to forge the leadership team needed for the U.S. Congress and the nation. Then you compliment your supporters and the 18 million people who voted for you, that they are obviously smart people, or they wouldn’t have voted for you in the first place and, in closing, “They certainly don’t need me to tell them what to do; they have minds of their own and I expect they will continue to use them, no matter what I say; I was their candidate, I am not their pied piper.”

    To spend weeks telling what she knew and we knew were (sorry for the term, but true) lies about both Obama and McCain [example, from one piece she wrote: "Obama is for equal pay for women, McCain is against it" -- sorry, but total bullshit and she knows it -- incredible she could force those words from her mouth and live with herself] is not what I expect from a leader.

    No, I do not give you a free pass to contradict everything you’ve said because you have a good reason. A reason to lie does not excuse the liar. If you’re a kidnap victim and you have to lie to the bad guy to get out of the trunk, fine. But, not to bargain your credibility in furtherance of your own political ambition. Not acceptable.

    I don’t respect her at this point. How or when that will return, I can’t say. Might not.

    Some people gave her hell for not having left Bill. For having enabled his behavior (again, for me, his behavior was dumb but what turned me against him was lying to his staff, at their personal financial expense, when asked directly if there was anything to the Lewinsky allegations). That one is debatable. But, now she’s doing it again. Enabling an abuser. And, he’s not married to her. He’s not going to help her. He doesn’t even like her.

    Anybody who dusts me off with their middle finger is not getting my support. They’re lucky if they don’t get a fist to the face.

    People don’t always have to see you win (look at the support Palin’s garnering, despite being attacked by hyenas, for refusing to blink or back down). But, they always have to see you fight for your convictions. Lying to protect your ambitions does not fall into the same category. At least, not for me.

    • Betty Lou

      I think the fix was in for Obama from the start, Clinton giving it a go for whatever reason.

      She didn’t have a CHOICE, IMO.

      As for health care, think Obama, and IL.

      Rezko was convicted for stacking the IL hospital board, soliciting bribes, and arranging kickbacks to politicians, and we dont know even a tenth of it. And the IL pension funds? Rezko demanded a bribes from investment firms, (it was his form of a bid on contract)and, if a remember, a donation was required to a certain political candidate.

      So , now Obama has access to Social Security, right?

      If it were me, I’d stay far away from it, for any number of reasons.

      Obama was a part of this, and now he’s President.

      The democrats lined up behind Obama, well, that group, anyway, the rest didn’t.

      • Winston

        She didn’t have a CHOICE, IMO.

        So she was under some kind of mind control where she had no willful volition of her own? She is the last person to dive on a grenade to save the country.

    • beachnan

      You are comparing apples to oranges. Palin was just doing what she had to, to get elected. Hillary fought the good fight for as long as she could, but then had to take another path, when the party turned against her. They are totally different scenarios.

  • dobarah

    All of this talk of health care reminds me, is there any mention of if there will be a release of medical records for either the fraudulent one and/or his vp? Who am I kidding, the sharing of this information is just for the common folk.

    • wodiej

      all I can say is there are things in the works to try to get these things exposed in the next month.

      • TeakWoodKite

        Catagory “Things” on the political Wheel of Fortune.

        I would like to buy a bowel…

  • lorac

    I am also angry at Hillary, but I can feel that emotion, and still care for her, still believe in her. I am confused about what she did, but I must remember that I DON’T KNOW what she knew, what was going on.

    Perhaps she knew “they” had a way to have That One win, just as they did in the primaries, and she was trying to keep a place open for herself in the Senate, without him totally shutting her down. Maybe she knew he was going to win, and bit it so that she’d be able to stay around to be there for US, to try to protect us from him as best she could.

    I DON’T know how to explain what she did. So I’m not going to assume it was nothing more than self-interest. I DO know that Hillary cares about us.

    • Andy

      lorac:

      I am 100% with you here. I pretty much am where you are and feel what you describe regarding this issue.

    • Winston

      I am confused about what she did … So I’m not going to assume it was nothing more than self-interest. I DO know that Hillary cares about us.

      My God you are hopeless. She cares about us SO MUCH that she handed us an Obamunist.

  • lorac

    I didn’t want Obama, so I could have just stayed home, but I voted for Sarah, because it doesn’t make sense that only the “right kind” of women can be allowed to be in politics (in terms of “feminism”).

    Having said that, I was making the best of a not so great situation. I could never choose Sarah over Hillary. While I don’t really feel I have a party right now – and I don’t need to have one – I do lean more towards dems on social issues.

    Other than those who are deciding to become republicans, I think the rest of us can be there for Hillary. Everyone is wondering, what will happen to her? Even though she isn’t up for reelection for two years, we can talk with her people, maybe with Lady Lynn, etc, and find out what we can do.

    I think we need to be there to welcome back the Hillary people who voted for That One, as they quickly become disenchanted. Even though most of us don’t live in NY, I think there must be things we can do to help, because I really do think That One will try to destroy her.

    I think she needs us, and I think we can help her. So anyone who still loves Hillary, let’s try to find out what we can do, and be there for her. This has been really rough on us. And Hillary is STILL going through it.

    She loves healthcare – and they’re twisting the knife on her. I’m so furious that a guy on his deathbed, whose current importance is mainly in his own head, is trying to keep it from her. Maybe Heidi has some ideas – maybe we can mount pressure on Kennedy or something.

    But I think Hillary needs us right now. IMO, Palin has a lot to recommend her, but she IS very conservative, so any Hillary lovers who aren’t going republican, I invite you to reach out to Hillary as I am going to. She’s my hero, and I’m not going to forget her. And I think it will help me in these dark times to reach out to her.

  • Amazonia

    1. The DNC will very likely run somebody against Hillary in the Senate primary race in 2010. There is nothing I have seen or heard to confirm that BO will keep any promises made to his opponents in exchange for their support. Hillary should, and I’m sure she does, know this. So, if I were Hillary, I’d start working on PLAN B, regarding my career in service to the country, such as becoming an Independent
    and run as such in 2010. She must avoid being distracted and made waste her time with promises of “getting something, sometime” from a Democratic administration.
    2.- She also needs to stop worrying about Bill Clinton’s “legacy”. He has already been a successful President, and has a Foundation to keep him busy and influential outside the Democratic Party. He can and will take care of himself.

    3.- So, I say to Senator Hillary Clinton: The General Election campaigning is over, you’ve done what you had to do for the Party that stabbed you in the back and dismissed the votes of many Americans; YOU DON’T OWE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY ANYTHING NOW. Concentrate on finishing your current Senate term, plan on becoming an Independent to run again in 2010, you’ll have better chances of winning the seat as Independent as opposed to not even being the democratic nominee in the primary senate race.
    Better yet, as an Independent you’ll be free to support a moderate Republican tickett and work for health care with them
    (Gov. Sarah Palin ang Gov. Jindal?)

    I am mad that you campaigned so hard for BO’Fraud, but the GE is over (although I still have hopes that BO will be found to be Constitutionally Ineligible, which he is). I still love you Senator Clinton and want you to be a successful leader. Please open your eyes, and now YOU COME AND JOIN OUR CAUSE for true Democracy for a truly free America.

    God Bless America
    Country First

    Amazonia

    • wodiej

      well said, I second that. We need an Independent 3rd party.

  • http://www.anvp.typepad.com/soldier4hillary soldier4hillary

    I will always be behind Senator Clinton. Party affiliation is a title, a organization. Neither one is a reason to vote for someone without looking at who they are.

    • Arabella Trefoil

      So will I be, Patsy.

    • jbjd

      I am still trying to get in touch with you, s4h, at twice my initials at gm.

    • McHope

      Soldier4Hillary,
      You are one of the best posters here. Your work and insights are wonderful. With all due respect, didn’t Hillary do exactly that? Put party affiliation above all else?

  • Tuppence411

    Everybody calm down. New York has demographics custom made for Hillary, why do you think they picked NY? No one can seriously challange her coalition there. Now if I was Chuckie S. I would be very nervous that Hillary voters will turn on him when things go bad for Barky; the AA and Jewish vote alone can’t get you over the finish line state-wide. He is up first, in 2010.

  • Betty Lou

    Blago, he’s just another Blago, expect Washington to be run even more like Chicago, more patronage, more failure.

    I just dont know what’s left for them to steal out of the treasury, though.

    Gov Blago was elected on the coattails of the corrupt and convicted R- George Ryan, whose administration in some ways resembles this travesty of Bush, and Cheney.

    And he was elected on a reform ticket, (ahem) hope and change and reform Blago.

    (Tony Rezko, who was instrumental in his election, along with Mayor Daley, was questioned about IL ethics reforms by one of those who testified at his trial, and he was to have said ” It meant nothing, it was for the public, business as usual.” )

    I mean, all of those who jumped up on Obama’s bandwagon,(press, I mean) good times, good times — it’s YOUR money they steal, too, they can’t administer the war, the budget, health care, social security — but bribes, kickbacks and cuts — now with access to the President, and the treasury, but like never before! And they’re staffing with really stupid people! Two lost wars, and a broken economy, can’t find a better man, no, nowhere!

    Blago, Rezko, and Obama are a part of this IL skank, really, its’ my impression guys like Rezko purposely groom guys like Obama for political positions, just so they can get their hands on federal monies, and such…

    Damn.

    • NoBamaNoWay

      yep; just when you thought washington couldn’t get any worse. obama’s going to turn it and the rest of america into chicago. woohoooo!!!

  • Annie Sweetie-Oakley

    Obama’s karma is going to bite him big time…sooner or later..

    Brace yourselves for more egotistical, cold, unabashed game playing!

  • ownaa

    way back during the primaries so many times I said the launching of a 3rd party or at least a serious talk about would have made a differance. If nothing else the Clintons would have thought twice about campaing so hard for BO. people thought a 3rd party has to be born and the same day it came out in the same shape and structure as an old party. In election year that is not important. if enough people took it seriously back in April or May, it would have absorbed all the 18 millions of Hillary’s supporters one way or the other. Thinking out side the box is what needed. Now after all what happened are we going to just talk about it or start doing something.

    • wodiej

      I think it is in the works and we will see more effort on this going forward. just stay in touch w the blogs so you know what is going on.

    • Betty Lou

      The problem isn’t necessarily, though, the political parties, it’s the corrupt people in those parties, the system of fundraisers, and donors and self deluded, untalented elitists.

      The same AIDS, or cancer, that infects people like Obama, or Cheney, the DNC, the RNC, also would affect any new party, too — they’re coming for you, one way or another.

      Meaning guys like Rezko want access for the money, their egos, the usual, and it’s very dirty, brutal, really, maybe even dangerous.

      Like the mob, (or Micorsoft — sorry), they don’t tolerate competition.

      They need to clean it up, get rid of that small group corrupting the political process.

      • NoBamaNoWay

        yes, corruption is absolutely the root of the problem. i don’t know if it is possible to eradicate it from the federal government. i think that the only way to get it under control is to drastically shrink the size and authority of the federal government, and move its functions back to the states. at least then the citizens would have a little better opportunity to exercise some oversight of their government.

  • Betty Lou

    George Ryan, in a final gesture before leaving office, for prison, suspended the death penalty in IL, (humor me, here, no matter your opinion on his decision) it was a brave gesture, one that took personal courage.

    It was thought, at that time, no one could make the corrupt Gov Ryan look good.

    Gov Blago, also of the combine, proved them wrong.

    I’m thinking it MIGHT work out the same way for Bush-Obama, somehow, dont know how, but it might.

  • Five Thirty

    WJC and HRC are two of the most accomplished thinkers in the contemporary usa. I think they should create their own independent policy-oriented think tank where they and selected members develop solutions for problems and everyone else can use them, and then probably not give them credit for it, but the Clintons are not petty and wouldn’t care.

    • AnninCA

      That’s a fun notion.

  • Joe The Citizen

    Do not worry Hillary supporters.

    Americans are fickle and the giddiness of new-found power by Barack and his team will be their downfall.

    See, the expectations are too great. And Barack Obama is NOT ready. He angers people as he plays his games. It will unravel.

    And Hillary? Solid and steady. I am not worried.

    Barack is like people with new money. They spend it all in haste.

    Barack’s MO is consistent. Small rumbles are starting. Small, but real.

    Now that the election races are complete, he has to govern. Remember that he has no real executive experience. He is cocky and arrogant. Selfish and mean.

    And Hillary? Solid and steady. I am not worried.
    She is older and wiser.
    Experience matters.

  • Joe The Citizen

    One more thing.

    Ted Kennedy only cares about the Kennedy legacy. He passed the torch from JFK to Obama without any regard to Carter or Clinton.

    When Hillary mentioned that Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Bill (JFK had said no several times) Ted was furious.

    He does not want the truth to get out. So, perhaps we can help out. We should post JFK truth stories all over the place.

    JFK was a drug and sex addict. There is a LOT of truth about him that gets overlooked by his pretty words.

    I’ll start…
    In his riveting volume In Sickness and In Power, former Foreign Secretary and medic David Owen reviews the health and medication of leaders over the last century. The chapter on Kennedy is jaw-dropping.
    http://timesonline.typepad.com/comment/2008/04/the-drug...

  • jdona

    I think the report of Hillary’s death in politics is a wee bit premature. She is a tough lady, she proved that in the primaries. And I really don’t think Obama wants to piss off her and Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton is a loose cannon. He is a two term President, and he will tear Obama into pieces if Obama takes his snubs too far. The absolute worst thing Obama can do is insult a former President and First Lady from his own party, especially given how wildly popular Bill Clinton still is.

    • AnninCA

      You got that right. When Bill said, “Obama will win,” the DNC breathed a sigh of relief.

      If he says something is good, most of the Democratic Party voters will just say, “OK.”

      He could make things quite awkward.

    • Betty Lou

      I’m thinking Obama is a criminal advocate of pay to play in American government, and perhaps Clinton wanted to avoid that mess, I mean, who takes a ticket on the Titanic knowing it will go down?

      Watch to see WHO gets the contracts, and WHO the advisers are, after Rezko, I can’t believe those people aren’t up in arms about Obama, and their social security money.

      Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt…

      And he will hide it all behind those insipid press people, as he helps to steal their money, too.

  • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    My sister just sent me two youtube videos of Clinton having to carry the water for Obama – she is still trying to convince me I am wrong abt Voldebama. Thanks to NQ, I was able to turn right back around and send her THIS post!

  • Alice Paul WPB

    It’s funny I was just talking to my husband about this today.

    I was saying that we might still win a small victory after all. I think that after a suitable time period after the election Hillary will get something.

    I don’t believe that Hillary and Bill sold themselves to the devil for nothing.

    I know they had to support him to some degree, but she had leverage and I still believe she did so much more for some beneficial reason.

    At least I hope so. I know she is a smart lady.

  • MG

    No evil ever last a hundred years because no mortal will tolerated it.
    It’s very disappointing to see the AA community turn on the Clinton’s after all their work and friendships.
    I wonder what loyalty really means… Look at Bill Richards.
    I wonder how God will see us, and in the long run how Justice be delivered.
    Clinton’s racist!? Only when it is conveniet, when you intend to make a person an non person, to demonize and destroy!

  • Texas Playwright

    Hillary has said all along we must have a Dem in the WH and that she would “work her heart out” for the Dem nominee. She has kept her word. She knows all the dirt on BO–all of it–and when she tried to bring some of it out in the early debates–Rezko, Farrakhan, Wright–the press did nothing. Only after Super Tuesday did the Wright nonsense hit the airwaves. By then, more people knew the fix was in, the immoral MSM refused to play fair, Dean,Pelosi, Reid and Brazille said nothing and the DNC continued its years long corrupt agenda to put a corrupt, amoral person in power.

    So, while I too am a little upset with Hillary, she did tell us early on she’d push a Dem for the WH. I think it is absolutely horrendous the way all factions have treated her. The media long ago pegged her as unlikable, mean, calculating, which I think describes Obama to a T. Once Hillary started campaigning, We the People saw her and judged her with our own eyes and ears. I will be forever grateful that Hillary fought all the way through the primaries. She educated me about the process, the media, the money, the corruption by doing so.

    Hillary will have the last laugh. Count on it.

  • pdgrey

    I am taking a break from reading the comments at No Quater for awhile , not because of Larry or the other posters, you are great, but the recent commenters. I am ashamed of the people posting comments here who claim to have supported Hillary and now are angry with her or will now not fight for her. She fought for us and only stopped when the DNC let HER down. ANY woman commenting here about her “letting us down” has not read about her fight for us. Women’s right’s are Human right’s. She also was the only person for “true” gay rights. Hillary needs US now to fight for her. The same people who stopped her in the primary are still trying to kill her. She put herself on the line for us. And if you are to naive about politics to understand Hillary did what any pol HAS to do to survive to fight another day. The media and Obama and his people are trying to bury her. Remember she didn’t “die well” in the primary. They are not thru “killing her” and we need to stand with her. I am not mad at her because she lost the primay. Why are you? They took it away from her. If you really think she should have gone nuclear and blown up the Dem Party explain how that would help her to help us. You haven’t been doing this politic thing very long and just don’t get it if you believe it was going to work out any other way. Hillary is Superwoman not super human.

    • AnninCA

      There are quite a few naive comments about this and other topics.

    • Strawberrybitch

      Hillary and Palin are still being politically raped by Barky and his minions. The question is why? Well, because they still pose a threat for his 2012 run. Palin in four years after she gets more time under her belt and Hillary waiting in the wings when barky fucks up beyond all reason, she could challenge him like Teddy did Carter. If karma is a female, she will be swift and just when dealing out the cosmic taint slap to the one.

      • Seattle Moss

        Exactly right Strawberry.

        Not much has changed in the past hundred years. In fact we’re seeing a resurgence of the male dominated world. Most of our emigrants are from societies that put women in their place. The democrats decided early though sexist pigs like Dean to extinguish the attempts by women to make that final leap to power. Now some republicans are doing the same. Women are a threat to these power hungry misogynists. Best to keep it an old boys club because if a woman were to become president many of them would be thrown out and rightfully so.

      • AnninCA

        Palin won over the Republican party. 91% saw her favorably according to Rasmussen.

        She drew in huge crowds at the drop of an email.

        You betcha, they want her skewered.

        Plus, now she’ll have the Bush conservatives after her, too, because she’s entirely too moderate for their taste.

        • McPalin

          Gov Palin is NO moderate. She’s a fiscal, social and constitutional conservative who believes in live and let live as well as THAT doing what’s right leads to success while built on a firm foundation rather than building a career/life on a sand foundation and lies. Please do not assume. There are lots that people have yet to discover about her and it’s aaalllll good.

          • Joe The Citizen

            I agree. The more TRUTH you know about Gov. Palin, the better. She is one impressive public servant. And I am a liberal. :) But, I like her reults for her constituents, and her positive hard working attitude. She has the right philosophy about the role of Government. They work FOR us.

      • TeakWoodKite

        I bear no ill will towards Senator Clinton, anyone who was down at ground zero on sept 12 doing anything they could to help, gets it. The Senator gets it and has been there. BO has a speech that no one can find, other than the Frontline piece that ran recently “election 08″, in which I saw a clip of it, real or not, I would rather keep senator Clinton involved and not made to wander the wilderness of the Senate. She may end up there, who knows? I sort of expect it to happen anyway inspite of herself.

        Or have most here forgotten the letters/posts from Dr. Carol, the Canadian doctor, who’s team suffered? Hillary was there when it mattered.

        This situation is different in that Hillary was literaly asked to LEAVE. when she refused, she was savaged.

        She choose to remain and fight as long as she could. Or do you forget that on the day she conceded, BO went golfing? I guess that beats cutting Brush with a rusty chainsaw.

        Si it comes down to why she would work to see BO elected. For that I would enter into evidence Exhibit 1 ; Joe Lieberman.

        when Ned Lamont was left twisting in the wind, Hillary knew then what was a foot.
        Do you recall the caution expressed by President Clinton when asked if his wife would run? It was not the Rebuplicans he was worried about. Both Clintons were aware of the frontal assault by Howard Dean and and Nancy Pelosi on the DLC. I remember Charlie Rose interviewing Rohm about his involvement in the DLC and the “challenges” they faced. He made reference to the struggle. So did Harold Ford Jr. (This just after it was reported that Rohm and Dean had an arguement over “strategy”.

        So much of me agrees with IndieDogg, but when it comes to who will be there when it counts, it will be Senator Clinton and not BO. 3:00am not withstanding.

        All I can say is that it must have been more distastful to campaign for BO, than it was to have Bill cheat on her on National TV.

    • Ani

      Hillary will live to fight another day. She fought harder than I have seen anyone fight and was backed into a corner — I agree it is unfair to put the blame on her.

      The workings of politics are ugly. She is still fighting for us and I will always fight for her.

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    I thought it was still a free country. Not all of us worship someone who sold us out. Period.

    • McPalin

      exactly. She had 79 rallies all over USA for a dangerous and incompetent man. She knew we woukd lose alot with him in there, but she rallied anyway.

      • Strawberrybitch

        And the little fuck is hiring ex-Clinton advisors as we speak. He knows what side his bread is buttered. He’s LEAPING toward the middle and I’m rolling on the floor…laughing. Hopey/changey my ass.

        • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

          Even the most liberal wing nut friends I have in Hollywood are a little WTF about the Rahm thing and who he’s hiring.

  • pdgrey

    I agree AnninCA.

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    Guess until Comrade OVomit is in office we can all have different opinions. But it’s good to know that you don’t respect the opinions of others.

    OVomit is dangerous

    Hillary pushed her voters to vote for him

    ‘Nuff said.

    Truth is truth

    • AnninCA

      Hillary is a Democrat. She supported the Democratic candidate.

      I can’t fathom what you expected from her? She told you directly and repeatedly that she would work to unify the Democratic party.

      Hillary was never a PUMA. She certainly isn’t a Republican.

      So where’s the beef?

      • McPalin

        She joined Barky in lying to the American people. There’s the beef.

        • imustprotest

          I agree. I didn’t expect her to become a PUMA but I didn’t expect her to completely bend over and campaign for him almost more than he did for himself. She even campaigned for him when he was on vacation…come on now.

          • Joe The Citizen

            Perhaps there is another reason? Perhaps the plan required appearances of support while real investigations go on behind the scenes? Drug deals have to go down before the Feds rush in. To catch the bigger fish in any operation, they often wait.

      • McHope

        You are right.
        She said she would support Obama.
        She DID support Obama.
        The beef is that people disappointed in Obama’s winning want desperately to believe Hillary didn’t really mean to give her support to him. She gave no indication she did not believe in what she was doing.
        Ascribing false values or motives to her is no different than ascribing them to Obama without his earning them.
        Hillary wanted Obama to win, she got what wanted.
        Everyone is free to support her in that, in spite of that, or not; but people should at least acknowledge she knew what she was doing.

        • McPalin

          Oh Hillary was elated that the thug won because he has a (d) after his name, albeit a phoney (d) that she may or may not be aware of.

          • McHope

            She’s aware. The Clintons cannot simultaneously be two of the most intelligent people on the planet and then be unaware of the qualities of someone they both ran against and fought to elect.
            Their endorsement implied overwhelmingly that even though questions were beginning to be raised about Obama during the primaries, those issues must not be too bad because the Clintons knew them and supported him anyway.

            • Five Thirty

              The Clintons cannot simultaneously be two of the most intelligent people on the planet and then be unaware of the qualities of someone they both ran against and fought to elect.

              It’s all relative. They know what Barack has done and they know what the GOP has done. They judge the GOP worse and I don’t blame them.

              • McHope

                Apparently.

              • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

                Where do you get what you keep saying about the Clintons? No offense but you’re sort of off base.

                • Five Thirty

                  That’s your opinion and you’re welcome to it. For myself, I believe in the logic of what I am saying and am comfortable with it.

  • pdgrey

    Yes it’s a free country, I agree, but I will not throw Hillary under the bus because this election did not turn out the way she or I wanted. If you believed in her fight then we still have a fight to help her. This is the most important time before the next congress comes in. If you have not been thru this process before, this is when people are “jocking for power in congress”. Hillary needs her supporters to make noise for her NOW! Not replaying the election.

    • McPalin

      Maybe Barky can do some hollering and persuading for her now, ‘ya think? :oops:

    • LogicallySpeaking

      Remember this a republican website.
      Don’t expect support for Hillary except for the few Hillary supporters that post here.

      • beachnan

        This is not a Republican website. This website gained in popularity when is backed Hillary. It was only after Hillary stepped down, that we went McCain, because of our intense dislike of BO.

      • beachnan

        This is not a Republican website. This website gained in popularity when it backed Hillary. It was only after Hillary stepped down, that we went McCain, because of our intense dislike of BO.

  • pdgrey

    You can say I don’t respect other people, I know I do. I just feel your expections for a Democrat not to support another Democrat is unreasonable. I can’t read Hillary’s mind but I feel that she and Bill are not to happy about the result or the way BO got there. I just know enough about politics to know what to expect next. And I for one will fight for the person who tried to help me. Hillary.

    • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

      Go ahead and fight – that’s your right. I am appalled. This is a critical time in our lives and Hillary advocating handing over the keys to the Kingdom to THIS LUNATIC is insane. COUNTRY FIRST. I know most of you don’t understand the love of America. You should try it some time. Yes, I expected better of Hillary. What you people aren’t getting is that this is 100% about the fact that they paid off her campaign debt. SHE WAS BOUGHT. Period. If anyone can prove that isn’t true…go for it. But we’re not getting the begging for money anymore are we? I know that’s what happened. So, my country was worth a few lousy bucks? HELL NO. John McCain would have done the right thing. My FATHER would have done the right thing. THIS IS AMERICA. Where’s our honor? Keep defending what she did. I respect your right to that, despite thinking WTF? Maybe you can respect those of us who put COUNTRY FIRST and would like to see our families live through this mess that the Dems created.

      • Ks Girl

        OBAMA IS A FRAUD..I’m with you… This party first crap has to go…

        I have no respect for a politian that puts their party before the people.

        Americans, all of us, deserve better…

        • Ks Girl

          meant politican.. sorry…

          • Ks Girl

            politician… Geez, I can’t spell today…

        • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

          Thank you. It’s like the Twilight Zone here to see the liberals blaming McCain that OVomit got elected and protecting precious Queen Hillary the traitor. By the way, for the liberal wing nuts who keep beating me up about Hillary…REMEMBER that I was the one that paid my own money, took my own time, to try to expose OVomit in a documentary about Voter Fraud and how he stole her nomination. It’s a little hard to stomach that back then she felt the same way we did, and we TRIED to help her, and then she SOLD US OUT. I have the same knife in my back that she does and it hurts.

          • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

            Thanks for standing up for the VOTERS who got screwed. Both extreme wings of the spectrum are scared shitless of the middle/moderates/centrists which is why no one lifted a finger to stop the fraud.

          • AnninCA

            No, it’s just too predictable. A lot of us said, No win situation.

            He wins, people will be mad. He loses, people will be mad.

            You just are into blaming Hillary, which is what America loves to do. LOL*

      • Wisewoman

        OBIAF. Why don’t you give it a rest. You bitch about Hillary all the time. Do you get the following?
        1. No one is happy that Hillary campaigned for Obama, NO ONE.
        2. We can’t read her mind but we can look at McCain’s example. He campaigned for Bush in 2000 after Bush folks lied on him in a vulgar way. He did not challenge Bush in 2004 and got the nomination in 2008.
        3. WE CAN’T READ HILLARY’S MIND AS TO HER MOTIVES, WE CAN ONLY SPECULATE.
        4. Your speculation is no better than anyone else so give it a rest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

          Wow…ease up. You people feel free insulting people a lot. Like I said, I don’t do that to you guys.

          1) Plenty of people are FINE with Hillary campaigning for Obama.

          2) Bringing up Bush again. Sigh.

          3) Why do her motives matter?

          4) It’s my business what I think. Or, are you the only people allowed to voice your opinions?

          I don’t bitch about Hillary. I have NEVER not once talked about her in other threads other to address what others have said so back off. And you’re picking on me although SO many other people have said EXACTLY what I have. Do you read? This is a thread about Hillary getting screwed by Obama after she campaigned for him? Do you like abuse? Man you people are ready to just roll over and let all this stuff happen. Kind of sad.

  • hmmm

    Obama wants to crush the Clintons-he is not going to give her a chance to prove herself.

    Give Hillary time-hell regret it.

  • McPalin

    Well, I guess it is as simple as her wanting to pay off the 25mm. I’d have done it too. That’s alot of money..

    • McHope

      Luckily, Bill’s earning power is unlimited.

  • Silver

    Instead of all this second guessing about Hillary’s actions, wouldn’t you love to be a fly on the wall in the Clinton household and hear what they REALLY think? I hate all this “outward friendliness” that politicians show each other, when inside they must be seething and muttering, “What an SOB!” (not unlike what a lot of people probably feel towards some of their relatives).

    Well, in this election, I’ve been disappointed in more people than I even care to count. (And yes, I still GREATLY admire the Clintons). Obviously Ted Kennedy doesn’t give a rat’s ass about the American people, or he would welcome Hillary’s sub-committee and the valuable information it could bring to the table. It’s all about ego and political points for both Kennedy and Obama. There is such a thing as karma, and they will get theirs one day.

    I know that a lot of people are very upset about Obama’s election, and I completely understand your emotion. But PLEASE take extra care of yourselves. Don’t allow yourselves to get too dark or depressed over this—you can actually make yourself physically sick after awhile. Been there, done that.

    • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

      How do we not get “dark and depressed?” America is gone. It’s done. This process has been debilitating for anyone with a sense of decency. Yeah, yeah, liberals. Bring up Bush again. At least Bush protected us from getting nuked. I won’t sleep ONE NIGHT with OVomit and his terrorist pals in the White House. I’m just dreading leaving the country I love so much. And having to tell future generations about what America “used to be” since we know OVomit will burn all the American History books. OVomit will make it like America never happened.

      • McHope

        It was Ronald Reagan who said that freedom is always just one generation away from extinction. We don’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream; we have to fight for it and protect it, and then hand it to them so that they shall do the same, or we’re going to find ourselves spending our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children about a time in America, back in the day, when men and women were free. ~Governor Sarah Palin

        • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

          Thanks McHope…What people are ignoring is that:

          OVomit commited VOTER FRAUD – A direct VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION

          OVomit wants to havge “required community service” – another DIRECT VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION.

          OVomit wants to stop our Free Speech – another DIRECT VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION

          OVomit refuses to prove he is eligible: if he’s not – another DIRECT VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION

          It’s just going to go on and on and on and on until our freedoms are gone. I pray to God all of you have the balls and sense to stand up and fight every time these liberties are taken away from us. Please fight for America.

          • McHope

            I am with you.
            There will come a time when John McCain and Sarah Palin’s words will make more sense than ever.
            There is a reason they have asked us to fight for America.
            There is a reason they have asked us to fight for our Freedoms.
            It’s a shame so few were listening.

            What we need is someone to take charge and create a coherent, cohesive movement that fights to defend our country and it’s constitution.

            You have been so passionate and so inspiring. Your work on the caucus fraud is fantastic.
            Perhaps we have found a voice and leader in you?

            • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

              Yeah and I love the attacks I get here. Nice. I guess that “no more freedom of speech” thing is happening here too? Thank you McHope. If there is a way to form something I am all for it. We have a REALLY bumpy ride in front of us and every single freedom we have is threatened. I forgot that the gun ban is already starting too. Another violation of the Constitution. What’s odd is that the President is sworn in to “uphold the Constitution” not destroy it. Very sad what the left of the country is doing. Yes, I will fight no matter what.

              • AnninCA

                You’re obviously free to express yourself.

                You may be experiencing surprise that the entire world doesn’t agree with you.

                But, that’s your problem.

        • Joe The Citizen

          This is why the Obama campaign is still paying staff to bash Gov. Palin. She “gets it”. She knows what is going on. She is too close to the truth. She is the voice of the resistance.

          • Goblintrain

            Agree with your insight, & btw, Beautiful name! Lol! I’m jealous!

  • BerlinBerlin

    Biden doesn’t look so happy lately.

    So he’s going to be president, if something happens to Obama?

    hat might, after all, not be the worse to come.

  • Amazonia

    OIAF, you need to let up a bit on your criticism of Hillary.

    Remember about 10 million Republicans did not show up to vote? Those votes would have made a difference in the outcome of the General Election.

    More than anything, I think the traitorous Media had much more to do with selling BO non stop to the public and maligning Hillary first and Sarah
    later.

    Let’s stop beating on Hillary now.
    Let’s start helping Sarah now.

    • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

      LMFAO…Do you read? There are like 100 comments just like mine about Hillary above. Should I quote them for you? I don’t need to “lay off” anyone and the attacks are really not cool. I need to help heal this country that Obama is already setting off to destroy. Where do you guys get off telling people how to feel? Really, please tell me. My feelings for Sarah have nothing to do with Hillary and I support Sarah 100%. They are two different people. And I have a hard time thinking that I will EVER be discussing Sarah selling America out. That’s the difference. The fact that Hillary KNOWS that Obama committed the fraud to steal the election, she sucked it up and shoved him down unknowing people’s throats, and then GOT NOTHING to show for it…uhhh…that’s WHAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT. Look up top. What’s with all the hate? And, really, for the LAST TIME….whether the GOP showed in full force to vote or not…OBAMA WASNT OUR NOMINEE.

    • Elizabeth

      Thank you.

      Maybe I’m dense, but I still don’t understand how Hillary was ultimately responsible for not vetting her primary opponant.

      The job of the primary ‘loser’ is to work for party unity.

      The job of the media is to vet each candidate, evan handedly.

      The job of the general election loser was to run a competent campaign and get their voters out.

      Hillary will never be blamed by the American people
      for an Obama win. If he fails, her popularity rises. And if the story of another stolen election gets its due, there will be clamoring for another run (a la Al Gore in 2004).

    • Joe The Citizen

      This “base stayed home in such high numbers” is questionable. How convenient. Those likely most opposed to voting for Obama just did not vote???

      Swing states with fewer people voting than 4 years ago?

      Sounds like massive voter fraud to me. Machines set to delete a % of Republican votes.

      Keep in mind that Obama and his group pushed each and every vulnerability in our election process. Masterfully.

      Millions of hard-core conservatives did not stay home.

  • DaddysDarlin

    I knew that rat B**tard would take credit for Hillary’s health care plan. He has taken credit for everything he has ever signed his name to. He has never done the work, only taken the credit.
    I am sick to death of this ass, and wish it were already 2012. He lied, cheated and stole this election yet none of the MSM wanted to talk about that, that would either be racist, or might get in the way of The One becoming president. No kidding!
    The American people deserved the truth from the MSM and the DNC, yet all they did was cover up the truth, even if it meant allowing a Kenyan citizen run for the highest office in our land.
    I am so damn disgusted with this entire fake process, they call the peoples president, how long has it really been since the people have actually elected the president?
    It’s time for us to take our country back, to make those people who cheat our voters out of the right to choose the president accountable.
    I believe Obama is the anti-Christ, call me crazy but I do know a few others who feel the same way.
    We did all we could with what little power the common citizen has, to prevent the election of a man who is out to do harm to our country and its citizens. I believe Obama wishes to destroy our country. IMHO

    • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

      You GO!!!!

  • marcos

    I can;t wait till december 1st in the case berg VS obama lets see if Obummer can bring his burden of proof to the supreme court like his real BC I heard that he has to by DEC 1st I hope it is true can we amagine what would happen if he ain;t able

    • Elizabeth

      Huh ? How could there be an ultimatium ? This is a case the SCOTUS hasn’t even agreed to hear, yet.

      What Obama will respond to by Dec 1 is a venue matter asking the justices simply to not dismiss the Berg appeal.

  • marcos

    I,m ready for a new revolution

  • Beal

    From Politico:
    “Obama also won 84 percent of those Democrats who backed New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton in the hard-fought presidential primaries.”

    I’d prefer that it be said “16% of Hillary supporters were not fooled by Obama.”

  • Beal

    As long as the Democrats refuse to overhaul the caucus/primary process, there will never be an “elected not selected” Dem nominee in the future, especially after the way Obama perverted the system this election.

    The whole IA caucus was bought and paid for with favors, promises, and campaign contributions to IA politicians and the IA Dem Party by Obama and Howard Dean, and that is why the IA Dem Party looked the other way and, I believe, in many ways enabled the fraud. Hillary was the only one who displayed integrity in the campaign process.

    Remember the fight between the states for placement – the fight to dislodge IA? Obama and Howard Dean promised to support IA’s 1st in the nation status; Obama even took his name off the Michigan and Floriday ballots to prove it, knowing it would screw up the delegate counting. Look at the money Obama gave the other political campaigns. Review the reasons politicians gave for endorsing Obama – nonsensical statements like “he’s inspiring,” “he draws all these young people,” … never anything intelligent about his qualifications or ability to be President over Hillary and done when Obama was not winning the votes.

    Remember all the reports of bussing people in to vote in the caucuses from out of state (no doubt Acorn people who were paid with the $800,000 from Obama for “get out the vote” efforts)? That bussing in of votes won him IA.

    Then there were the other caucus incidents – maybe not as apparent in IA, but just as effective. Why else would the Dem Party wait until a couple hours before the caucus starts to call people to act as caucus leader…People who had never done it before, but agreed to do it/fumble their way through it out of kindness…People who might not know if the process was tainted.

    IA is big in the ethanol business. Obama pledged heavy support to continue subsidies, another reason the Dem governor and Dem Party threw their support his way. By the way, McCain has long been vocal about his nonsupport of ethanol subsidies. That is why he lost IA by so much. Obama winning IA is not the logical conclusion to his winning the caucus there. Obama won IA because people were against McCain.

    And, Hillary’s ignorant campaign staff made it easier for Obama to win in IA. They kept her from developing the relationship with voters that is expected in the early states during the many months of the early campaining.

    Obama won the IA caucus by far more than the average of the polls. He won by a +7.8 spread. The RCP Polling Average from 12/26/07-1/02/08 was only +1.6.
    (www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ia/iowa_democratic_caucus-208.html)

    Obama would never have made it past New Hampshire except that he was able to throw the IA caucus. It ended up being simple until he found out that Hillary was not a quitter even though she was constantly harassed to quit. And the longer she fought on the more vicious and nasty the Obama supporters got.

    The only way to prevent it from happening again is to get rid of the caucus system and go only to a primary voting process. At the same time, the scheduling must be changed. The early states make a huge amount of money from the campaigning that goes on. And, since the caucus system of voting is very cheap compared to the primary system, IA especially makes a ton of money. That money promotes corruption of the process… Good luck to anyone who wants to take this on…..