Smartest President Ever?

Obama is the smartest candidate to ever win the American Idol celebrity Presidency game.

Now for the hard part!!!

I don’t think he’s so smart as slick and devious. He gets part of Big Bill’s old nickname. Slick Bama is the way I’ll remember him.

Why does he always need his TelePrompter? Even Bush can read a speech off of notes, and he’s not bad at it either.

He was the smartest to realize that all he had to do for the young vote was offer free rock concerts and they wouldn’t even ask why they should vote for him.

How about a better pic of yourself up there Larry?

He was smart enough to know how to effectively use people and then dispose of them when they became liabilities, as you remarked, Larry. That is being smart like a fox. That doesn’t mean that he has the smarts to effectively lead the nation. But that’s o.k for Obama; He’ll give stirring speeches-not his own- and be great for photo opps. What’s worrisome is considering who will be the smart ones behind the scenes.

A clever politician, an opportunist, yes. Arrogant? Absolutely. Charismatic? Based on the gushing adoration of the masses, he must be, although I personally don’t find him so. But brilliant? No. I agree with Larry. If his Harvard or Columbia grades had been remarkable, we definitely would have heard about them.

Oh, he’s smart, only not in the ways an IQ test might rank a person. He was smart enough to use the Chicago connection for all it was worth. He was smart enough to realize that the American public would swoon to empty promises and the image of “cool.” He is a product and user of our times, our popular culture. He’s smart like a wolf. He’s smart like every con man in history. Only now he’s POTUS-elect.

The real question is: how smart are we?

Bill Clinton, a Rhodes scholar, has an IQ in the 180s. It isn’t that Obama is smart, he’s vicious.

He’s smart enough to fool the American people…well . almost all of them

bechloss: obama’s IQ is off the charts

imus: What is obama’s IQ

bechloss: I don’t know

For all bechloss knows obama’s IQ could be off the bottom of the charts. You can’t those people up.

Marxists devour each others. I wonder who will eat Obama.

I dont know much about his associates. If you can detect the worst marxist in his presidential team, you know the winner. Emmanuel seems a good guess ?

I’d agree that Obama’s IQ (Insufferable Quotient) is off-the-charts.

Am I the only person who – as a business person – knows how easy it is to run a business (campaign) when you are rolling in more money than you know what to do with?

Why is it that Obama’s “buying” his way into the White House is not more of a factor in people’s appraisal of his “so smartly run” campaign?

Hillary and McCain had sunshine lighting up their campaign donations which can be very limiting since you have to get your money from approved sources. Obama got money from God knows where and from God knows who – tons of it – and we’ll never know where or who.

Lots of people could should be able to run a successful national campaign with half a billion dollars – it certainly doesn’t take “the highest IQ” on the block.

Almost beating him with a fraction of the money – that’s smart.

That’s great, Rob-”Insufferable Quotient”. LOL

The job requires vision, leadership, courage, intelligence, a strong moral compass and experience among other things. Even if I were to buy into Beschloss’s ludicrous assertion, an excess of one of the aforementioned attributes when accompanied by an embarassing lack of the others spells doom. If these fanboy mouth-breathers were smart – and what evidence is there of that? – they’d be a little more dogged in tempering expectations now that they’ve succeeded in doing their part to snow the electorate.

correct; obama’s perceived “brilliance” is really more about us than him. there are a whole lot of americans who *want to believe* that he is briliant. it’s like obama himself said, he is a blank slate on which other people project whatever they want.

This is ubelieveable, what better way is there to remind people of the worst the Dems have to offer than start your presidency by bailing out the Big 3! Bloated pensions and union contracts.

How about mortgages, health care? Why not start there?

Obama is the poster boy for Affirmative Action in higher education.

But he would argue that his successes had to do with his abilities, not the social programs that made it possible for him to enter school he would have never had a chance to attend.

Like Bush, let’s see how long Obama can keep the “mask” on…

Obama is a joke. He and Michelle both use the wrong verb tense all the time.

I want to see those records. He didn’t score that high in high school.

CAROL HAKA

This is a good picture of Larry. You expect Clark Gable?

Can someone tell me when was the last time we had a President that really won an election fairly??

I’m starting to think that America has never had a president while I’ve been living that won by the vote of the people only?

I use to think that Bush was the only one, but now Obama too. So since no one seems to want to do anything about it. No one any where is even talking about any voter fraud; makes me think, then, that this is just the way it well be for now on. This shallowly government made-up of who knows who well for now on forever rule in America. How sad is that??

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/activism.htm

Can someone tell me when was the last time we had a President that really won an election fairly??

I’m starting to think that America has never had a president while I’ve been living that won by the vote of the people only?

I use to think that Bush was the only one, but now Obama too. So since no one seems to want to do anything about it. No one any where is even talking about any voter fraud; makes me think, then, that this is just the way it well be for now on.

This shallowly government made-up of who knows who well for now on forever rule in America. How sad is that??

I don’t know if Obama is a genius or not. Doesn’t matter. Many times geniuses cannot perform.

Look ay JFk’s team, the best and the brightest. Yet McNamara got us entangled in Vietnam.

A book entitled, When Genius Failed, by Roger Lowenstein, is the true story of Wall Street traders, academics and hubris that led to failure on Wall Street.

There are dozen of stories like this.

Often the skill set needed to won an election is not the same skill set needed to govern and lead effectively. Obama is first and foremost a politician. He is not a leader. I think he and his young and inexperienced legions will take a tottering nation into near ruin.

This is what Wikipedia has on Michael Beschloss:

“Beschloss was born in Chicago and was educated at Eaglebrook School, Andover, Williams College and Harvard University. He majored in political science at Williams and earned an MBA at Harvard Business School.

Beschloss appears frequently on PBS and ABC. He is the NBC News Presidential Historian and sits on the advisory board to the Abraham Lincoln Bicentennial Commission.

Beschloss is married to Afsaneh Mashayekhi Beschloss, who is President and CEO of The Rock Creek Group, a Washington, DC, hedge fund, and former CEO of the asset management division of the Carlyle Group.”

So it looks like Beschloss and Obama have these things in common: Chicago; Harvard; friend of NBC; apparent family ties to someone of Moslem background; friend of hedge fund managers; ties to military/industrial complex.

And based on Beschloss’s comments, I would also guess that he and Obama have about the same IQ….which, I would be willing to wager, Beschloss THINKS is higher than any of the President’s he has studied.

What a crock!

ack BOTH of those guys have always TURNED ME OFF!

gawd is Imus getting O L D boi?
You’d think with all that money he has he’d spend a BIT of it on HIS appearance. I mean he CAN’T POSSIBLY think THAT look works for him can he?

YUCK

(petty I know, so be it)

Has anyone signed up for the Obama resistance over at Drudge. Seems like they are asking for alot of personal information.
Why am I not trusting anymore?

Why do i get the feeling that I am already living in a communist country and people are being forced to say these things? B/c why would people say them just to look stupid?

And here I am thinking that BO Irony would take leave of us.

The only two reason I can think of to call BO smart,
1) Since “I” voted for him, I am smart so he is “brillant”. Must have made L Tribe all musshy inside… and
2) Dumb Luck.

I heard that exchange on Imus.

OMG Bingo!

Bill Clinton is the smartest President ever, but the New Left is bent on replacing Clinton with Obama. One day after the election I saw a headline that read: Obama: Most Popular Man in the World?”

Bill Clinton actually polled out the most popular man in the world two years ago. Obama is such a wannabe and the rest of the Democrats are pea green of Bill Clinton. And he was not slick, not a crook like Obama.

It’s rather sad, but this site is now mostly Republicans wanting to sing Bush’s praised despite everything and trash Bill Clinton. I think I’m ready to move on to something more productive.

I’ll say again. Obama – The Elmer Gantry of politicians.

It’s ridiculous tinfoil hat movies like Zeitgeist that helped put Obama into office, with people so paranoid that they think Bush caused 9/11.

This is why I disdain university educated people, they’re fucking retards.

(No offense to those stricken with developmental challenges)

The Carlyle Group? OMG! That’s Bush I’s silver spoon.

Let’s get real! Everyone knows that the highest IQ for a President, since they have been taking IQ’s, was Bill Clinton. Obama’s IQ score is 131. How does that compare to 165 of Bill Clinton!

did he actually say that (IQ off the charts)????! jeezus christ; is he aiming for keith olberman’s 24/7 obama dick-sucking job, or what?

Personally I would rather have a President with some
common sense and an ability to make a decision and stay with it for more than a few hours. Obama seems rather short on both of those abilities. When he was running for the Senate in Illiois, his wife regularly put him down for his inability to do much of anything. I am sure you remember that tape where Michelle said she didn’t think he should run for President because he hadn’t done anything yet. He has 300 advisors and couldn’t make a decision on Russia and Georgia or the economic crisis. Most of the policies he embraced were Clinton’s or McCain’s. Intelligence doesn’t always translate into
an ability to get a job done.

While Bill did nothing to stop the inflation of his IQ number, in reality, it is a very respectable 137-in the top 1% of the population. (Hillary is 140!) Bush is 125 and his dad is 98(!) Since Barky behaves more like a Bush than a Clinton, I peg him at 115.

Einstein had an IQ of 160. Stephen Hawkins has an IQ of 160. Sorry Don Imus, no matter what your mother told you, you are not a f’ing genius!

He also used the wrong pronoun, saying Michelle and I when he should have used me.

This stuff is ridiculous.

Obama’s IQ is off the charts. What is Obama’s IQ? I don’t know.

The insanity of 2008 is off the charts.

Michael Bechloss claims he has the highest IQ of any person to hold the office based on what exactly?

Obama has not released a single grade from Kindergarten on up. He claims he graduated Harvard Law School Magna Cum Laude but refuses to relsease a single grade.

We know how he got into Harvard Law – through political contacts including Percy Sutton. He tranferred into Columbia after beginning at Occidental College.

Bill Clinton got into Georgetown and later Yale Law on his own and based on his own grades – no legacies – no special favors. He was a Rhodes Scholar to Oxford based on his own intelligence.

I have not seen anywhere that shows an ounce of intelligence that was not scripted.

He also says “a” instead of “an” when using a word with a vowel or vowel sound. Example: a army instead of an army…a honor instead of an honor. He’s a dolt.

Yes, I’m feeling the same way too. I don’t like Obama but the next time someone on this site declares him the Anti-Christ, I think I will just come by only to read Larry’s postings.

That can’t be right. My IQ was tested at 137 and Bill is waaaaay more intelligent than I am. I don’t even stack up to Hillary.

Good catch! And also very odd mistake for a so-called seasoned “writer” to make. Can anyone say- “Bill Ayers was my ghostwriter?”

I’m going to try to tread lightly on this because I don’t want to insult anyone associated with the unions, but I had a conversation with a friend of mine today who told me she voted for Obama because she “voted her pocketbook”. Her husband is an exec for GM and she said she didn’t think McCain would bail GM out. ACK! This from a woman who WROTE McCAIN IN FOR THE LAST TWO ELECTIONS! I couldn’t believe that in the one election where she could actually vote for him she chose Obama.

Anyway, here’s what I told her. GM says they’re bleeding about a billion a month. If we bail out GM with, say $25 billion, they’ll be back in, oh, 24 months for help. The reasons are many, but here are a few
1) The average GM manufacturing job pays around $70+ and hour, while Toyota pays around $48/hour, and the average manufacturing job (non-automotive) is $28/hour. How the heck is GM ever going to compete with these numbers? Also, there will never be any incentive for the union to renegotiate if they know that they can pressure Obama to come through. Another option, would be for the government to interferes by putting tarrifs on the cars manufactured by foreign automotive companies. Other countries do it to our cars to make theirs more attractive, maybe we should do it to theirs? I think that would set us up for retribution, but it may be an option.
2) I live in the Detroit area, and we are still driving American cars. Every time I travel to the really blue states, the states where union support is big, they’re driving foreign cars — I’m not sure that I get that paradox, but it seems that it’s true. Not that the red state folks aren’t buying foreign, but there’s still some sense of supporting our own companies. This loyalty is not there elsewhere, and most people don’t see any reason to change — despite the fact that the loss of our big 3 (or is that the middle size 3 now?) would dominoe through our economy. The loss of these companies has been equated to a loss of 2,000,000 jobs. A bailout is unlikely to change the foreign buying behavior.
3) Sales in general, domestic or foreign, are probably inclined to be low for the next however long because of the economic state in general. Also, it is much more difficult to get a loan, so even if you’ve got the means to pay, you might not be able to buy. GM, Ford, and Chrysler are unlikely to stage a comback in this climate.

In the end, the state of automotive in this country is really in the hands of the people. If we can’t find some agreement with the unions, and if we don’t start buying American cars (and I don’t expect people to do it unless it’s something they feel is a good financial decision) then they’re sunk — bailout or no.

One only has to look back at the primary debates for confirmation of intelligence. Any time Barack was off script he started bumbling or agree with his oppositon. Most of the time he bumbled.

Conversly Hillary was able to discuss any issue on the spot. So these historians should stick to history rather than speculation.

http://www.archure.net/psychology/IQs.html

Starwberrybitch don’t understimate yourself. I can tell you are of superior intellect As is everyone who frequents NQ!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eYSpIz2FjU

I THINK THIS ( FAMILY GUY ) CLIP SUMS IT UP
ABOUT MICHAEL’S BECHLOSS COMMIT- SO MUCH FOR MY IQ-IT’S STILL FUNNY

Well, the closet some get to understanding English is “strunk and white.”

There is a difference between knowledge of grammar, and creative ability, right?

You do understand the difference?

Barack Obama is no dummy. But scary smart? I don’t think so. If this guy is the smartest person ever to walk into the Oval Office, then how do we explain that he entered into a boneheaded land deal with a guy who was under investigation for corruption (and subsequently convicted)? If he is so smart then why does he sit in the pews of Jeremiah Wright’s church for twenty years and never realize that there was anything wrong or hateful about Wright’s crazy sermons? I also wonder why a guy with an IQ that is supposedly off the charts worked closely with unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers on two different boards and never for a second thought this might create a political problem down the road

I was thinking it’s the $$$$ connection.

Closest, not closet, my mistake.

Sorry.

Note that Bechloss did not say that Obama has the highest score on an IQ test or that he had the best grades in college. On the other hand, he ran against a candidate who was widely acknowledged to have had the Democratic nomination sewed up before the primary season even began. Starting with no money, he created an organization and a message that won both the nomination and the general election. It is widely acknowledged that his campaign was extraordinarily disciplined, well-designed, and virtually without major gaffes. Unlike most of the other candidates he ran against, he defined his own message. Unlike most “unknowns” who have become president, he has an unusually broad range of supporters and potential members of his administration. (Anyone remember Bert Lance?) I can’t can’t say that he’s the smartest guy ever, but he’s the smartest one in a long, long time.

Since you brought up Percy Sutton, maybe you can tell me why this wasn’t approached at all. Was there something I missed? I thought this was one of the most damning pieces of video against him. al Mansour makes Khalidi look like one of the good guys, and his connections to the Saudi royal family are verrry suspicious.
Every time I posted that video on a comment, the comment disappeared. I watched a woman post it over and over again, only to have them removed. What is up with that?

One day after the election I saw a headline that read: Obama: Most Popular Man in the World?”

I just can’t help but think of Tom Cruise, when he hired his sister as his publicist, remember?

That was during the Oprah phase, when he jumped all over the couch on her set, ostensibly as a sign of his love for Katy Holmes.

That was graceful, now, wasn’t it?

(oh, this is going to be bad — the next 4 years, I mean.)

First up, no way is W’s IQ 125 and Papa Bush’s 98. That’s bound to be a mix-up. Bobo has made it clear to the Presidency on affirmative-action. His grammar is worse than W’s, his judgment horrible, and his tendency to lie pathological. But any commentator who expresses doubt that he’s smarter than the Clintons or Thomas Jefferson will be branded a racist. (Imus’s show was certainly the ideal venue to air such nonsense, wasn’t it?) So the media will muddle through his tenure mouthing that he is brilliant and that Michelle is flawlessly beautiful and has the world’s greatest fashion sense. The emperor may have no clothes, but no one will dare say so.

A CBS reporter who traveled with the Obama and McCain campaigns debunked the theory that the Obama campaign was so disciplined. This is a theory that has been perpetuated by the MSM. Obama won because of (1) the economic collapse that occurred in September and October, (2) an obsequious media that refused to vet Obama and that attacked all of his opponents, and (3) voter fraud and violations of campaign contribution laws. Even with #2 and #3, McCain and Obama were still neck and neck before the economic collapse. Obama only pulled ahead because of it. Let’s not kid ourselves — but for the confluence of everything in his favor, Obama would not be the President-elect.

The Bin Laden family invested in the Carlyle Group.

The only thing off the charts with Obama is his ability to con people.

Normal and unexpecting people do not know how to react or deal with being conned, most hide in shame from it and allow the con to continue as was done with Obama this entire season.

For a peson who managed to take a 2004 convention speech packed with falsehoods and lies to becoming POTUS proves how this talented con man has transended American politics from a politics of trash to politics of deep sewer sludge for the future.

Starting with no money, he created an organization and a message that won both the nomination and the general election. It is widely acknowledged that his campaign was extraordinarily disciplined, well-designed, and virtually without major gaffes

Or you follow the money, and see this is a lie.

Yet, still there are people believing the Obama crap — regurgitating it again and again. Guess that’s why Obama won, right?

You know, i think one “more than little” detail that the news media tends to dismiss about the vote is that millions of us did not vote against Obama because of skin pigment, not even because we disagreed with his presented policies. Millions of us voted against him simply because we do not trust this man! I do not think i can make it any more emphatic than that. If i am missing something, & there is a way to put it into plainer language, please contribute! You are welcome to tell me i’m wrong about this!

MICHELLE’S DRESS LOOKED LIKE A GIANT LAVA LAMP. SORRY I COULDN’T HELP IT.

Sure, Obama is the smartest, meaning clever, in conning the Am. public.

Obama the Ying and the Am. public the Yang.

The smarter Obama looks, the dumber the Am. public appears. The dumber Obama appears, the smarter the Am. public seems. In the end, they cancel each other out and what we have is a great big void for the next 4(?) years.

I wonder if the real reason he refuses to release his school records is to hide the names of the courses he attended (and not to hide his grades).

Bots made it like a big thing. You lost, big deal.

Actually I gained a little, well, I lied, I gained a lot since Nov 4. I shorted the stock market after Election Day, my portfolio just reached all time high today. Many many thanks to Barry.

When this country is going down the shit hole, when your pocket book hurts, we will discuss who lose, who win.

We thought it was a black widow.

So true! No need to appologize.That dress was flames of madness when it comes to fashion sense!

Just symbolically, it looks like the Dems’ first priority is paying back the unions for winning the election. This looks lazy and sloppy and unimaginative.

Yes we drive Priuses out here in CA. I hear foreign car manufacturers set up shop in the southern U.S.

What about that electric car? Huh GM?

It is a myth that he ran a smart flawless campaign. With all his money and the media protecting him and hiding his mistakes, he got a pass on everything.

sory, i haven’t read all the comments so i don’t know if someone already mentioned this.

i don’t give a damn how smart he is. i only care how COMPETENT he is. from what i’ve seen in the primary and GE, his only competence is in lying, obfuscating, surrounding himself with shady characters, cheating and being an all around, Grade A misogynistic SOB.

Keep the hate alive.

Obamas IQ of decency and integrity are absent.
Fairness and consideration of alle humans are points deducted from the overall score.
Thus, there is no way he could even be competetive when it comes to the highest levels of IQ of human beings.

A woman in mourning should be dressed in black after all her grandmother in law passed away only one day prior.

My father always said what you said Karen. I have a high IQ too (167) and when I would get in trouble (because I was a lunatic teenager0 my father always said that having a high IQ meant NOTHING as far as common sense. In fact, my father was CEO of a company and NEVER hired people based on the IQ stuff. He always hired people who were hardworking and had the common sense to be grounded. Obama could have a 200 IQ and I would still be concerned about him. He is reckless, as we have seen with his wild spendathons, he is mercurial, unbalanced, etc. I would have rather had someone not so erratic.

He is the Affirmative Action President!

Obama applied to Columbia and attended as an International Student (we used to call them Foreign Students back then).

Obama did this under his Kenyan Citizenship, which he held until he was 21 years old.

He also traveled to Pakistan during a college break at this time, a time when it was illegal for Americans to visit Pakistan. He did this trip using his Kenyan passport, which he held until he was 21.

You have to be kidding — sing Bush’s praises? I have never sung Bush’s praises in my life!

Obama is unqualified and crooked — that does not mean I or most people here like Bush/Cheney. People are entitled to post here and are entitled to their own opinion. But I write here regularly and freankly if I for one more thought this was a website that would sing the praises of these man, I would leave never to return.

Please don’t make these kinds of blanket assumptions. This election was in great part a referendum of Bush, which is why McCain lost.

It could be the courses, something in his personal/biographical information, a blatent lie on the application itself…there are a number of possibilities.

Obama would likely put it down to humility — outstanding performance at Harvard, must REALLY show oneself to be an elitist, right ??

What an embarrassingly small, shallow mindset.

What are you talking about. Bush ALWAYS used a teleprompter during speeches. And Obama didn’t have a teleprompter during any of the debates or at his press conferences.

Also, Obama didn’t only get selected President of the Harvard Law Review. He also graduated Magna Cum Laude. You actually have to be really smart to graduate Magna at Harvard Law.

Or the names of the professors.

You can bet on that — if any of his academic records were something to crow about, they would have been plastered all over the front page of the NY Times.

If Obama were a good negotiator (which he is not, he gives away his hand before the opening argument) he would use this time to get unions to renegotiate.

some of us who attended college do have common sense and logic.

If you believe all those things you wrote, you’re perhaps not the smartest person.

How can someone be the smartest president ever when they are not even president yet? That clown needs to stop mainlining Koolaid. His brain has atrophied.

Not that I think the Washington people are any more capable than a bunch of third rate PR stooges, but with workable policy, real policy, one doesn’t need to be disingenuous.

Isn’t part of leadership not lying to the people, setting a clear and open agenda rather than selling shit, camouflaged so the profits made from laws advantageous to yourself, and your friends, won’t be discovered?

Sustainable government isn’t marketing, successful business isn’t marketing, for that matter.

Unions, AIG, or even GM are in grave financial danger, no corporate PR model can save them, no Atwater type tricks.

I would say it’s this mindset of the trick that led them to where they are today, an absence of leadership and true intellect, the premium put on ephemeral appearance as opposed to true intellect, only able to sustain on the PR foam which killed them. The last 8 years were all about illusion, from the corporation, to the stock market, and back again, a positive homeostasis that finally burned itself out.

I felt very badly about Circuit City having to declare bankruptcy, I remember when it was a well run business, bought my electronics, there, really too bad.

Opampers failed the most important tests: the character, wisdom and judgment tests. Screw this IQ bullshit.

Obama is more intelligent than Lincoln? Smarter than John Adams and Madison? And Teddy Roosevelt and Rhodes scholar William Jefferson Clinton? He is more brilliant than John Kennedy? He is an internationally recognized genius like Thomas Jefferson? This Bechloss is an insult to all historians. What a boob. What clown college is honored by his tenure?

Has some tested Belchloser’s IQ?

OK I’ll tutor him in some physical biochemistry and see what he’s made out of.

I never have and never will trust Obama… He’s not smart or stupid. I’d say he’s very sly…If there were a quotient attached to slyness, Obama would be at the top of the chart…

That damned glitch is back — comments are being discarded and damned I worked hard on researching this comment. So here goes again — link is removed — I hope I have given enough information to find the link to the Search for the Manchurian Candidate.

Obama is NOT an original — he is a copy — he copies and steals and never gives credit to the original.

Why don’t we have full copies of his medical records — my theory is that he has a major medical defect (or health defect) that he is covering up.

If he was healthy — then he would have released his FULL medical records. Does Obama have the fragile male syndrome? No really!! Does he? One of the symptoms is BIG EARS!!! He needs help always to get over the line — we are being asked to “help” him — WHY? Hillary didn’t need help — Sarah Palin didn’t need help because she was a fragile and helpless female. Why does this “winner” need so much “help”???

Why don’t we have Obama’s full educational records — or at least his test scores (college entrance) and college transcripts.

Since he refuses to release his college records, we must conclude that he is covering something up — probably his less than stellar academic record, grades, test scores etc.

Obama has created an illusion of being smart, and articulate, but when we take a closer look at the REAL words and his REAL deeds — we see that they are an illusion, the virtual reality avatar that’s who he is.

When I looked closely at Obama’s personality structure in February I could see that he is a highly regulated individual. In the Personality assessment system (PAS) this means that Obama is exceptional at rote learning — he is not especially creative, nor is he innately empathetic. He can only be as good as his mentors — he can NEVER go beyond what he learns from his mentors.

I checked to see if the PAS website had any more info — it seems that the current PAS.org website is undergoing construction.

However — I did stumble on another bit of information which might interest folks interested in the Manchurian candidate aspect of Obama.

There is a book published in 1979 by John Marks, Published by Time book called: The Search for the Manchurian Candidate.

You can find it at this website — add the http stuff — and dot com — and you should be able to find this book. I was trained in PAS — post grad school — Chapter 10 of “The Search for the Manchurian Candidate” is about the background of PAS and the CIA. A whole lot of interesting details that I was unaware of until just a few minutes ago.

druglibrary(dot)org/schaffer/LSD/marks(dot)htm

tinyurl(dot)com/z78hg

How do we know he did, because he said so. Release all his records and let us see for ourselves. As far as being the smartest President? Give me a freakin break. Don’t think so.

His IQ is 131 – YAWN. Hardly a big genius. But these people who fawn all over him would say he had the hugest IQ on the planet if he were a borderline special needs patient. Ughhh…it needs to stop.

Michael Bechloss has a creepy admiration for Obama. Imus should of ask him if he believes Obama is the messiah. I saw him on PBS after Palin’s speech at the RNC. He had this deject look…all upset. I think he’s gay.

lol no I think they said Oprah has that title

(snicker)

Not to mention the Marxist profs he admits he was drawn to.

Hey Vince1974, Bugoff!

While I wasn’t studying, I would listen to the sounds Santa live, hanging out in the redwoods… hardly retarded.

Problem is not education. It’s the trombone section.

Not all the cream floats to the top. sometimes it …well it amounts to something.

Hey Larry where is the whitey tape you f——-g scumbag. I know you still have dreams of s——g Hillary’s underwear. It is going to be terrible having a smart and tough President!! I personally hope he shuts down rags like this one…

[Administrator: Okay, we're used to huffy puffy sore whiners. But you need to call your psychiatrist -- and tell him the antipsychotics are NOT working - or call your emergency mental health center this second. What you're writing is twisted and very sick. I also suggest reading a copy of the Constitution, you Bolshevik.]

Do you have a link for this??

I was assuming that he traveled to Pakistan with his Indonesian passport.

I understand that on O-vomit’s website he admits to holding Kenyan citizenship (or sort of lawyerese admits to inheriting a UK/Kenyan citizenship which was relinquished when he was 21.)

I guess then technically he would been a double dual citizen? UK commonwealth (Brit citizenship), Kenyan, Indonesian and the US citizen?

The part about being admitted to Columbia as an International Student is most interesting. That would mean that the admission standards were lower?

MORE info please — this sounds like a very development.

Troll puke spill in isle 4!

Thats not the pizza I knew!

This country has removed the threshold for IQ when they voted for Bush.

It is hard to believe that this country elected two presidents in a row that have not passed all four, in the case of BO the IQ test has been graded but not posted.

Couple of points to make. Obama’s IQ, as someone
pointed out, is not as important as common sense.
I have read Clinton’s IQ is as high as 180;
Obama’s flunctuates between 135 on up, like a thermometer, depending on the source.

SAT scores and IQ tests are no measure for creativity, an essential component of critical thinking. When industry was looking for
quality employees some time ago, they tended to take a serious gander at grads with a more diverse academic background, especially in the liberal arts.
Those people are the ones prone to “think outside the box”–now a commerical cliche. Of course, if
you want a bridge or skyscraper erected, a good
person with knowledge of basic engineering would help.

But presidents don’t build solid objects; they build
societies.

I have a suspicion that it was Hillary who kept Bill
grounded and on course. Unfortunately for BO, his
spouse (who some have called a ‘diversity diva’–meaning she was opportunistic, bolting to the head of any handout line, but yet remained a malcontent) is not as bright, savvy or schooled in American history as Hillary. In fact, Michelle’s attitude, if small glimpses into her passive-aggressive defenses are any indication, is resentful of hubby’s success.

If you want the true measure of a man, take a look
at his wife. Seems Mrs. Obama is raging with
unresolved issues. It will be fascinating to watch
the dynamics between the two as time and the burden of his work are brought to bear on their
relationship. I don’t envy him Michelle. If the
B word could be applied to any woman, IMO, it would be her.

Good luck, Barack. You will need it.

The more I read, the sicker I feel, I just can’t help but feel something isn’t right here.

Reading the rote, sad, simplistic praise of Obama is like skimming the scum off the top of a pot of soup — there’s no there, there.

Can’t you see it?

Even Daley appears to have more intellectual weight.

And it isn’t the grades, or the law review, at this point Obama should be able to handle himself intellectually, show true signs of an intellectual mind, and he doesn’t, he’s an intellectual cipher.

I saw a a poll on MSNBC – I think Chuck Scarborough – that said 65% of people polled believed that they be better off in 4 years – even better than the Clinton years. “Better than Clinton” is a phrase we’ll hear a lot in the next 4 years.

Foreign students paid less tuition than out of state students too.

That “historian” needs to find new material to masturbate to perhaps?

I thought her dress represented her core which is burning with rage and hate. It was a perfect symbolic choice. She probably had other reasons from selection that piece of crap. And thus we are free to project onto that dress what she projects to us — basically she hates America and hates white people.

Wait ’til Mrs. Obama racism comes out of the closet — and it will!!!

We are in for a show — pass the soft drinks and snacks. The Obots will probably WORM away what she says.

Right you are — O-vomit’s comprehension skills and lack of critical thinking ability are evident to anyone who has these abilities.

He had to agree because he didn’t own any of the policies he has been advocating.

Since he never developed the policies – he has no understanding of the logic which underlie each complex policy.

Two lost wars, and an economic meltdown in progress, truth is American corporations are failing fast and furious, as is our vital infrastructure.

AIG goes, so do the troops, in Iraq, the implications stupefying.

You really have bigger things to worry about, really, you do.

That would be those of us who did our own work in college.

It is stupid to paint everyone with the same broad brush.

Going to college can help develop your critical thinking skills and logical reasoning ability. You must have the raw talent and the will to WORK HARD in college.

Many college students in my day (and from what I’ve seen of today’s students) were lazy. Many bought their term papers and cheated on exams. I NEVER did.

I met a fellow graduate, same college, he started college, went off to serve in Vietnam and returned to complete his degree. When he returned he discovered that papers he had written were now being sold for other students to turn in in their classes!!!!

Obama is clearly hiding something.

Didn’t some of his law school professors say that Obama was very good at playing smart?

..or that he was an F-1 visa student (i.e., not a citizen).

Heather — we might know the same individual. I also know the wife of someone very high up in GM. If it is the same person — this is very interesting.

How can he be the smartest president, ever, when he has, yet to serve, as president.
It must be the past accomplishments which can be used as a road map into his presidency. No, not much there!
It is all the academic success he had in school, undergrad and post grad, receiving extraordinary citations, grades and test scores. No! can not be! No one has seen those.
It is his unique and brilliant ability to write two books before becoming president. Yea, and the books were on; Politics, no, education, no, global economics, race relations, the world’s poor, health care, military, mid size companies, house and bath supplies, United Nations, sports, the internet. How to pick the right dog for your family? No, They were about Him.
Then it must be, he ran his own campaign. I do not know about that, I mean $750M, more than Bush-Gore, Bush-Kerry and McCain spent combined. Where does the genius start and the money spend end. Plus the backing of MSM and the Democratic Party, it is not like he was a third party candidate.
I got it, He is just the ONE. I doubly get it. He is the smartest president, because he can have some one say he is the smartest, without doing anything, and can be the smartest without even serving a day. My BAD, Great OBAMA, TRUTH SEEKER and ORACLE. DO nothing > JUST say PRESENT. Just vote Present. You are the smartest PRESENTdent! EVER! of course, what a gift, such a nice present for all the dummies who have to believe and voted for the Messiah that by doing nothing, is the smartest way to be the smartest.

Smartest candidate? How about the biggest con man in the history of the US?

Smart or not, Obama is the biggest fraud and ass hole in the US.

What’s up? Have I been banned? None of my posts are getting through.

167–hardly

All I have to say is that after reading some of your posts I am embarrassed of myself.

There are a lot of smart people here and I am glad to have spell check or I wouldn’t survive!!!!

Although I must say I did have the smarts not to fall for BO’s sh-t which I can’t say for some of my very educated friends and relatives.

IQ testing is totally silly and not a measure of how successful a person can or will be in academic or real world pursuits. I can tell you that my IQ tests out in excess of what that person said Einsteins and Hawkings IQ’s were/are. I even have a degree in physics. Let me tell you that there is no way in hell that I am even close to being as “smart” as either of those two. Heck I barely got my degree and I made a D in quantum mechanics and dropped a couple of other courses along the way. No matter how hard I try I could never do the intellectual things that Einstein or Hawking did. Both are brilliant on a level far beyond my abilities and I am no slouch when it comes to science and math either. IQ is a waste of time.

All I can tell you is that Reagan honestly won twice. His margins were so great that there was no reason for the Republicans to cheat and no possibility of Democrats cheating their way into the Oval Office.

I share your sentiments, Disgusted. There is no doubt that presidents are picked by invisible forces before the primaries even take place.

Yea right Larry / Loser !!! Oh how your tune has changed loser, pretending you are now a site to be respected. The lies you puked on this site for nearly a year should in fact end your right to exist in print. Also I stand by my statements regarding you and Hillary.

Does any body even have records of a single interview with his classmates? Myself, i still have never even seen that much reassurance. I hope i’m wrong?

ROFLMAO…Hey TROLL! Hardly? I went to first grade when I was 3, college when I was 15…and the good news is that there are other posters here who know me and have known me for over 20 years and know the truth. So STFU loser!

Bush was dumb and dangerous; Obama is smart and dangerous.

Hummm … dangerous is the operative word here.

It’s actually not that hard to graduate with honors from Harvard. It’s a secret known in the ivies for years, that Harvard is the easiest of all the schools. Others have more to prove.

To Lisa-NY – “He’s smart enough to fool the American people…”

Lisa, unfortunately, one doesn’t need to be anything close to a genius to do that. The result of this election is proof of that.

Re: Michael Bechloss, he is a doofus, and should have the word tattooed on his forehead. He is yet another talking head to be tossed on the trash heap of irrelevance.

What if the “economic crisis” was the October surprise, agreed upon by both the Dems and the White House?

What if impeachment and investigations on Karl Rove were the bargaining chips in this election? Didn’t Pelosi declare that impeachment [was] off the table?” Didn’t Donna Brazile and Rove have a friendly e-relationship around this time? After all, it appears that the otherwise ruthless Republican Party threw this race. Karl Rove seemed to be giving Obama advice all along.

Except that the minimum requirement for Affirmative Action is that one be qualified. Obama is not qualified for the job.

It was UK (he was a Royal Subject of Queen Elizabeth II, then Kenyan.) I don’t know if he was an Indonesian citizen or not (as far as I know…not). His stepfather may have just written that Barry was Indonesian on the school registration form in order to get him into school even it it was stretching the truth.

I think the “lower standards” for admission would be very true and the reason that he applied as a foreigner. I don’t think that the lower standards or easier path to admission are an issue.

I think the issue is that now he wants the world to think of him as Mr. America, but when it suited him and it was to his advantage, he passed himself off as a Kenyan.

Jimbo, why don’t you take your “statements” and shove them up your arse. This way you’ll have something in common with your Precious. Enjoy!

Yeah, because letter grades are how we elect presidents.

When was the last time a Presidential candidate’s grades were front page news? Frankly, you guys are just making #$#S up. Pathetic.

You guys lost, the whitey tape ain’t coming. No one says you have to like Obama, but you’re not getting anywhere with this crap. In fact, feels a bit pathological.

So, getting all that money…that was easy? If so, please tell me how I can raise $150 million in a month easily, cause I’d really like to.

I have no idea about Obama’s or Bill Clinton’s or GHWB’s, but I do the general intelligence level around is subzero when it comes to reality.

I really worry about people like you, who regurgitate everything the media says. Obama was backed by the DNC all the way through. They showed him how he could game the caucuses. He even had Dean, Brazile and Pelosi looking out for him and holding his hand. They turned a deaf ear when everyone started to complain about the caucus fraud. They also allowed states to go ahead of others penalizing two, while not penalizing 2 others. Then they pressured the SD’s to back their candidate, BO over Hillary. Then they held a convention vote that was farcical. Then in the general election, BO had to outspend his opponent 8 to 1, and he had to fraudulently register voters, and allow some people to vote more than once to win the election. The DNC and media want to promote the meme that BO ran a superb campaign, but no one in his right mind should believe this line of crap.

Gee, do you think maybe the real problem people have around with Obama could be….nah.

You know, just because everyone disagrees with you doesn’t mean you’re living in a totalitarian state.

Like me, I liked “American Dreamz” but it got canned by the critics and did lousy boxoffice.

Clearly, fascism.

A reason, well thought out argument you’ve got there.

Damn those educated people who know things and do stuff.

What was this thread about? You guys are proving my point.

Mercedes, different day same ol’ …

The Bin Laden’s are the Carlye group…if you include the house of Saud.

At any rate Carlye has been going through turbulent times (dollar dumping) in the last year.

Because…why? Some #@#$# you guys all imagine or because he has a funny name that makes you wet your pants.

You guys are free to dislike Obama all you want, but in terms of anything sinister or criminal or what have you, there hasn’t been a single, solitary, sinister thing about him that comes from any place other than the fevered imagination of wingers, racists, and nutjobs.

So, here’s the question — if you really believe all this stuff, which one are you?

It’s amazing how many people assume that what they hear from the media is absolute truth. I was talking with a friend yesterday. We were both Hillary supporters in the primaries. He called to ask me what I thought of the election. I told him that I thought the election was a sham, and I had little faith in Obama and the future. He had drunk the koolaid. He thought BO would be fine, because he was so smart. He said, you know he was #1 in his class at Harvard. Where do they get this bullshit. If it were true, he would have released his records from Harvard, and the othe two colleges. Someone states this bullshit in the media, and everyone accepts it as truth. God help us all.

trixta

Ha Ha Ha sore loser!!

Yes, because everyone just naturally flocks to a virtually unknown black whose name scares people.

Obama got where he is the same way Jackie Robinson got where he got — he was better than everyone else playing the same game. You guys lost and you lost fairly.

Live with it.

Bye now.

heather,

Your post is illuminating and sobering.

It’s unreal that your friend who wrote McCain’s name in the last 2 elections didn’t vote for him when he was on the ballot.

You really can’t make this stuff up!

But why?

fiscalliberal,

This is what ultimately turned me against him vehemently.

The scope of Hillary’s knowledge was breathtaking. 0bama was doing about as well as I would… NO wait, I think I would have performed better.

He can’t think on the fly.

God help us!

Lost fairly? You must have observed this election from an alternate dimension.

This was not followed through for two reasons:

1. The media were acting (and still are) as Obama’s personal propaganda ministers, so their ministry of truth needed filter out information like that.

2. John McCain left the ammo in the bunker and irresponsibly never used that and many other pieces of very damaging information against Obama.

This should have been easy. Obama’s entire life has been one continous thread of socialism without interruption. Other than the characters he threw under the bus, he never exposed the public to any “normal” friends of associates from his recent or distant past. We don’t even know what friends this man has other than the ones he met in the Senate. Doesn’t that bother anyone that this man has half a past?

Typical obamabot-immature and stupid.

I don’t know how smart O-shit can be if he has to go and already disrespect the Presidency of the United States.

How pitiful. For a man who demand loyalty, he doesn’t have a loyal bone, or integrity to fill the office he just got selected for.

It doesn’t take a genius to know a private meeting between the president and prez elect, is supposed to stay private. But even more, when that president is discussing a possible deal in secret, to have you team start talking about this private meating and it’s details is the smarmiest.

….we give you Barry Soetoro Obama, O shit himself.

This is going to be a heck of a long 4 years.

…or as my sister said, “Hang on baby, here we go again”.

tek: My comment wasn’t meant to insult President Clinton. Perhaps I should have said the undeserved nickname Republican nickname for “Big Bill” (complimentary) and that Barry most resembles the description.

make that simply…Republican nickname.

I am a Clinton supporter circa 1992 and beyond.

Haha! You’ve nailed it!

Same here.

OK, let’s get a couple things straight here. First of all, admission into Harvard Law School is extremely competitive. Second, selection for the Law Review and extremely extremely competitive contest among an already elite group. Third, election into the editorship is an extremely extremely extremely competitive contest. Deciding who the most intelligent president ever is a very silly gambit. What criteria would you use? But there is no question that Obama is a very very smart man by anyone’s definition of intelligence.

But there is no question that Obama is a very very smart man by anyone’s definition of intelligence.

Judgment and wisdom are measures and he fails miserably.

Ummmmm, in this case they handed it to him and he never wrote a friggin’ thing while he was there. No Quarter had some great links about how they changed the criteria back after the Obamanation was head of the Harvard Law review. And don’t forget Bush was also from Harvard.

Bechloss is admiring the emperor’s new clothes.

LYRICS (too long to cut and paste)

PERFORMANCE

So you say. These are inherently subjective criteria. You say he has poor judgment and wisdom. Others would say he ran a nearly flawless campaign and won despite steep odds against him. And the both of you could argue back and forth with no end. But the facts of the matter are that he is a graduate of Columbia and Harvard Law and editor of the Law Review. All three show real merit. The last two tremendously so.

He was by all accounts a very well respected editor, and moreover a well respected Professor at the University of Chicago Law School. Along with Harvard, one of the best law schools in the country.

He taught night school and never wrote one article at Harvard Law. Link up or shut up.

Also, they “hand” the editorship to every editor. It’s called being elected. Try some balance and sanity. You may not like the guy, but his academic and law credentials are extremely impressive.

Credentials that can’t be examined are worthless.

Ayers, Wright, Rezko are proof of piss poor judgment.

Flawless? Riiiiight. Outspent McCain 8 to 1. Flawless? Greatlakes in Oregon, 57 states, Arabic in Afghanistan, 99 problems but a bitch ani’t one, what the hell is Hanford, let me eat my waffles, that’s above my paygrade, Rev. Wright, Fr. Fleger, Rezco….how much more ya need? Just choke on your tongue already.

Here’s your link, a press release from the university of chicago:

Obama was a professor in the law school, was offered a tenure track position several times, didn’t accept:

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html

That’s not night school, you bozo.

What is it you need to examine? How’s this from the Weekly Standard, a conservative magazine very critical of Obama?

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/316vvyov.asp

Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude, which means he got very high grades. Money quote:

“The only reason I bring this barely relevant history up is to show what a stud of a law student Barack Obama was. He graduated Harvard magna cum laude. This was one honor you unquestionably had to earn. It’s a very impressive feat. Back in Obama’s days at Harvard, more than 50 percent of the class graduated cum laude, a fact that made graduating “with honors” a meaningless accomplishment. But graduating magna was a different kettle of fish. Barack Obama graduated right near the top of his law school class.”

That’s because the other presidents had accomplishments beyond schooling.

OK Folks let’s all take a breather and read this article about Obama’s performance in Law School, published in the Weekly Standard, a conservative magazine edited by none other than Bill Kristol, the man who brought us Sarah Palin.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/316vvyov.asp

The important data: Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude, near the top of his class on top of being the editor of the law review.

The point of this thread is how ludicrous it is to call him the “smartest” president ever. Yes, some of us still think he is not bright even with the credentials, based on his behavior such as making a land deal with someone under investigation, sitting in a racist church for 20 years and working with an unrepentant terrorist.

Smarts are more than credentials. And lawyers can be greedy egotistical assholes like Opampers.

Fine, but that’s a separate point and comes down to subjective criteria. You asked about credentials. I provided them. The least you could do is admit that you were wrong: the man did extremely well in law school; it’s a matter of public record. You don’t have to like him or even think that matters.

It would interesting to see what BOBO’s grades were. It might give us some insight on what the dividing line was between the meaningless title of cum lude, and magna cum laude. LOL but then given BOBO’s fear at releasing his grades, it might be safe to say that an institution willing to give away meaningless titles, might have more then one meaningless title up its sleeve.

YOU FUCK WIT. Read your own damned article. He was a senior lecturer, NOT A PROFESSOR!!! Dickweed. Do you not understand the difference? Stand down before you make a bigger ass of yourself. Bwahahahahahahahah! I’m dying here.

I am not impressed by credentials. I find them only a small measure of a person’s worth.

Again, that’s beside the point. You asked for credentials. You got them. Now you say they don’t matter. That’s cheating.

When did the weekly standard become a credential?

Wildchild,

Where does it say that Obama is “afraid” to release his grades. Where? Show me the link. He graduated “magna,” near the top of his class. That means his grades were very good. So there you go. Read the article linked below from the Weekly Standard. It’s written by someone who doesn’t like him at all, yet it acknowledges that his performance in law school was spectacular.

When did the weekly standard become a credential ? ?

Prove it. I want his transcripts. Cheney was famous for planting rumours in one magazine or newspaper then referring back to them later in interviews as fact. REAL PROOF MONKEYBOY!!!! Produce the transcripts!!!

I never asked for them. And we really don’t have enough information about his background to really evaluate the credentials. He’s hidden too much about his past so we don’t trust him. And I don’t care anyway.

When it suits the little turds, Wildchild.

For god’s sake, the weekly standard isn’t a credential. Graduating Magna from Harvard Law, being editor of the Law Review and then a professor at University of Chicago Law School are credentials. The weekly standard merely reports on them, without bias (they’re a conservative publication).

It says it in my post. If BOBO wasn’t afeared to release them, he would release them. It’s only natural to follow up with a claim like that with proof. But then, releasing his grades might shed a little light on something called magna, which (LOL) might not have been all that magna

Straw, I am afraid we will never know the truth about this dirtbag.

You said “credentials that can’t be examined are worthless.” I provided credentials for your examination and you changed your point. That’s cheating.

Galt see my above comments. I’ve got my college transcripts…along with my ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!! I needed them to get into flight school, but apparently I can become president without them.

MONKEYBOY??? Wow. Nice little blog here. Nice little debate here I’ve gotten into here. Enjoy your cross burning.

Face it, we will never trust that piece of crap because he turned our votes into dogshit by stealing the nomination from the rightful winner.

Those are not creditials. It’s a magazine that claims barky graduated Magna. Show the transcripts!!!!

hey, if BOBO really graduated magna, then he wouldn’t be scared shitless to relaese his grades. But then releasing his grades might also clear up whether BOBO was an affirmative action editor or not.

You’ve hardly presented enough to fully examine anything.

Arnold can run for president now even.

You wuse. I bet your mommy didn’t let you play sports because you might get hurt. Right?

but you not debating anything. Your quoting the weekly standard and calling it credentials.

LOL I wonder how the fringe right feels that the fringe left is using them as a source of record?

Why should we assume anything important has been hidden? Obama has been far more open and honest about his life than a lot of public figures would ever dream of being. How many elected officials, for example, would publicly discuss their youthful indiscretions with illegal substances, and explain how they finally reached the conclusion that they were a dead end? We haven’t often seen that level of honesty.

The press release says is “Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School.”

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRGGGHHH! Now that’s some scary stuff there Galt. The Terminator as Prez…(oooyeeeech!)

Where is the vault birth certificate? Where are his medical records? College transcripts?

It’s the hiding in plain sight that concerns me. For example,BOBO told us he would stand with us in our fight to prevent telecom immunity from being passed. And then the lying sack of turds vote to pass it. LOL and then to add to the surreal nature of his duplicity , BOBO kept it on his web sit until election day that he opposed passing telecom immunity.

Oh brother. Bush said he learned from his coke use and drunk driving and Clinton never inhaled, McCain was a hottie party animal at Annapolis and Reagen…well Reagen was just plain creepy (grown men playing with chimps is freaky, ask Michael Jackson). I want his grades, his ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE, and his medical records, and while you’re at it how the hell was he able to travel to Pakistan as a US citizen back when he was in college?

*LOL* It’s a reptilian slam. (Refer to the 1984 cult movie, Buckaroo Banzai.)

how the hell was he able to travel to Pakistan as a US citizen back when he was in college?

Michelle flew him in on her broomstick?

no matter where you go….there you are

HE WAS NOT TENURED! Do you have any idea what it takes to get tenured? Gawd.

Smartest president…ever? Based on what?? And if I hear ‘president of the Harvard law review’ one more time, I will run screaming into the streets. All Obama supporters point to that as if no further evidence is needed. Please!

Jon,

Although Obama was president of Harvard Law Review,
the rules changed as a result of black discontent at Harvard. Obama fit the bill for the job, which was awarded on the basis of interviews–no longer being first in the class. Can you cite anything that he published at the Law Review? I have read that he published nothing, but also he wrote a short paper on abortion.

He was an older student, which is an advantage (more mature) and had learned a lot about public speaking in his job as a community organizer. He was supposedly good at listening to everyone and gathering ideas, which is a good skill for a leader.

I, for one, don’t see why he warranted admission under affirmative action, and I read both that he was and was not accepted as an affirmative action student. Having been raised by whites in Hawaii doesn’t qualify him for special racial treatment. Maybe he did register as a Kenyan student, but his father was at Harvard, and he could have been legacy.

Obama is not stupid by any means, but even the New York Times noted how he was “bored with policy,” which is why he started his run for President after one
year in the Senate.

I haven’t personally felt he was of exceptional intelligence, not the way that Hillary and Bill are. He
seems more on the level of a Nancy Pelosi, one of his patrons. I would have been bored out of my mind listening to Rev. Wright for an hour, much less once a week for 20 years or so.

Even more troubling than whether his IQ is superior is
that he hasn’t shown any leadership qualities, or qualities of character. What kind of man takes the work of fellow politicians as his own as thrown by Emil Jones, Jr. so he will “have a record” for his 7 part-time years in the Illinois statehouse? Is he going to give us all the “finger” if the country falls down around him (in economic collapse)?

I’ve read a few interviews with Mechelle, and she seems to think that she is at the top of the heap looking down at all as she pontificates about something very obvious to most people. Christopher Hitchens made a nasty comment about how her thesis at Princeton wasn’t written in English.

It requires working full time not teaching three courses a year. Barky is afraid of fulltime work. Thus his need for multiple vacations a year.

Where are Palin’s transcripts? Or her birth certificate or hunting license? For all I know, she may have fed Greta Van Susteren illegal moose chili.

it doesn’t matter. All they seem to have as credentials is press releases.

isn’t this guy kin to the kennedy’s? that might help explain his bias.

Deuce you say?

I’m a little unclear this one. Was BOBO running again Palin for the VP Slot?

First off she was running for VP not prez and secondly Mccain offered up his birth certificate, medical records, taxes and college transcripts from Annapolis.

So, to sum up this little dialogue:

Teaching law is evidence that Obama is relatively smart.
-No, “he taught night school.”

The University issues a press release saying he served as a professor.
-He was only a senior lecturer.

But the University said he served as a professor.
-But he wasn’t tenured!

I know. I read all the way to the bottom, where it said: “Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.”

Saying he’s “the smartest president ever” is ridiculous. But you can admit he’s a smart guy and still not like him.

Why am I supposed to think that BOBO is smart, because he went to Harvard?

George Bush went to Harvard.

No darlin’ the point is Barky is always trying to make himself seem greater than he really is. Where I come from, we call that LYING!!!! Padding a resume is the polite PC term YOU would use.

I wondered where you got that Blue Police Phone Box was in the corner of your shop…

Dr Who?

LMAO.

Correct me if I am wrong on this point, but intelligence includes an innate critical thinking ability.

ergo BO is not intelligent. This is also re-enforce when reviewing his many many tone deaf statements.

That’s the undergraduate school, not the law school. Kennedys all went go to Harvard college — none of them could get into HFLS. Ted and Bob went to the very respectable Univ of Virginia Law School.

Magna out of HFLS is very booksmart. About as booksmart as your average circuit court judge or supreme court judicial clerk. We’re not talking Steven Hawking territory here.

I went to school with Bechsloss — let’s just say I’m not surprised he wants to have Obama’s baby.

“by all accounts” is not a phrase that should ever appear in the same sentence, when discussing BO.

Jon, for the last time. BO was never a Professor of ANYTHING. Clear enough?

Stick to the facts.

Hahahahahaha. Oh Gawd. Too Funny. Have Barack’s baby…Ah gawd…wait…ehew.

Larry,

Although I really think you should have done it earlier, WE NEED to get the Michelle “Whitey” tape out. This is the right time to pounce. If done correctly, we can have impeachment proceedings going right after inauguration.

Release THE TAPE!!!! WE KNOW IT EXISTS. And we’re not buying that “why’d he” angle.

Please Larry. Talk to your people. The ones who told you about it. The TRUTH MUST GET OUT ABOUT OBAMA!

heather, this has been worrying me too. It seems like these bailouts are rewarding extravagantly-compensated failures. It makes me absolutely sick.

Let’s really piss off the Republicans here and call Obama “Teflon the Second”.
It was, after all, the GOP’s veritable St Ronnie who earned the name the “Teflon President” because his opponents could never get anything negative to stick to him. (Also, Reagan had a bunch of loyalists who were willing to take the fall for him–such as Ollie North. I cannot believe that Reagan had absolutely no knowledge of what North was doing. As much as I loathe North, I deeply believe that he took one “for the Gipper”–and we all know how well that turned out for North in the years since.)

The “smartest President in history?” Sorry, but this “high IQ/who is smarter” debate is nonsense. People who claim that their IQs qualify them for any job are, IMHO, rather pathetic.

Case in point—I’m not qualified to be POTUS, period. And yet, based on a couple of tests I took in college more than thirty years ago, I’d have easily qualified for Mensa membership. Based on the THEA, the ASVAB, and the subsequent military exams he took four years ago, so would my son. That IQ rating didn’t qualify either of us for the job of in question. I’m not just talking about the legal minimum age to serve—at that age, no one has the necessary life experience, education, and emotional stability for that job. Even so, thirty years later, after I’ve learned a lot along the way and regardless of what another IQ test would reveal, I wouldn’t even vote for myself. I know my own limitations. Does PE Obama know his?

Accept for the sake of the argument that PE Obama scored at the genius level on the standardized tests when he was eighteen or twenty and would do so now that he’s forty-seven. At his present age, via his life experience, he should also have developed a modicum of wisdom, a certain emotional stability, a sense of integrity, a bit of humility, and a minimum of compassion and empathy, shouldn’t he? And wouldn’t it be a positive to hire a “smart” person as POTUS?

Therein lies the rub. Based on what I’ve read of his own writing and by observing his public behavior, I believe that his dissonant life experience isolated him from the realities of day-to-day life among average Americans. Being so isolated, he never developed those connections of place and person that define us as Americans. Nothing in what I’ve seen of him, nothing I’ve heard from him, nothing he has written about himself, and nothing else I’ve read about him indicates to me that PE Obama possesses the necessary qualities listed above, at least, not all of them in appreciable force. He’s highly unlikely to attain any of these qualities if he hasn’t done so by the age of forty-seven.

Heightened intellect without the other qualities to direct it … hmm, that’s trouble waiting to happen—Nixon, anyone? I’d rather hire a person of average intellect who possessed the other requisites in solid force. Also, the job of POTUS requires, or should require, some real-world management experience as well as the qualities I listed above. IMHO, PE Obama’s executive-level resume is just too thin, no matter how high his IQ may be.

I seem to recall a big to-do over grades in the 2000 election. There were great debates over whose grades were “really” better–Gore’s or Dubya’s.
Of course, since slobo likely only began paying attention to politics this year, he (she? it?) wouldn’t know that.

As far as I.Q. and a scandal free term in office, Clinton couldn’t hold a candle to Calvin Coolidge. Bechloss is a lousy Presidential historian if he propels Obama ahead of Jefferson, Adams, Lincoln, and Coolide on the intelligence scale.

Bechloss is one more nitwit in a long line of nitwits that are attempting to craft a monumental image of Obama based on absolutely nothing remarkable. Obama is a cipher, a blank slate, and he has always needed tools like Bechloss to create a persona that an uncritical electorate will passionately gobble up. Considering the true character of Obama, they’ve done an amazing job selling him as “THE ONE”. Frankly, I think I could carve a better man out of a banana.

We don’t know what the grading curve was when Obama attended HLS. We don’t know if he had the types of professors who, for example, give all their students As. Prof. Lawrence Tribe gushed about him in a commercial. He’s very left-wing.

Harvard Law School is dropping letter grades and switching to pass/fail. Was it ever pass/fail at other times?

He didn’t graduate at the top of his class or else he’d be summa cum laude instead of magna cum laude. We don’t know how many other students were in his class. If there were a lot of summas, he could’ve actually been somewhere in the middle of the group.

Being a minority would’ve been an asset yet he required the assistance of Khalid al Mansour to gain admission. This suggests he didn’t have outstanding grades at Columbia.

And yet, in a mini verbal chess match in a driveway with Joe the Plumber, who got check-mated. I guess Obama hadn’t studied the Ohio Driveway Gambit.

Perhaps we could ALL find out how it was so easy if we could be shown WHO donated almost $500,000,000 to Obama.

We know that ANYONE from ANY COUNTRY on earth could donate up to $199 to the Obama campaign without triggering any exposure. We know that the Obama campaign had no mechanism in place to reject multiple donations from the same credit card number – the same number with multiple names, addresses and expiration dates. McCain and Clinton instantly rejected any credit card donation that did not have complete matching information.

Given that most of Europe wanted Obama elected, whose to say how much of that money came illegally from overseas. What about the nefarious types around the globe? And the nefarious types in the USA?

Anybody who has trouble figuring out the possibilities with that scenario has an “intelligence level around…subzero when it comes to reality.”

Uh, Bill Clinton also won HONESTLY–TWICE.
It is not Clinton’s fault that a third-party candidate won nearly 1/5 of the total popular vote but was unable to win enough votes in any state to earn a single electoral vote in 1992. It is also not Clinton’s fault that the same third-party candidate took enough of the popular vote to prevent Clinton from attaining an outright majority. But, again, the third-party candidate failed to win enough votes in any single state to earn a single electoral vote.
I would also point out that Reagan’s win in 1980 was NOT by a “great” margin (Reagan only won 50.7% of the popular vote). If you mean in terms of the Electoral College, that’s another matter but most election contests of the past have not been very close. From 1900 through 2004, only 3 Electoral College wins have been with a difference of less than 50 votes (1916–Wilson beat Hughes by 23 EVs, with a popular margin of almost 600K out of 18 Million votes cast; 2000–Bush “beat” Gore by 5 EVs, despite losing the popular vote* by 500K out of more than 105 Million votes cast; 2004–Bush beat Kerry by 31 EVs, with a popular margin of more than 3 Million out of more than 122 Million votes cast). But if you’re going by Electoral College victories, then again, Clinton won with “great” margins–in 1992 he won by more than 200 Electoral Votes and in 1996, he won by 220 Electoral Votes. Unlike Reagan, however, Clinton’s second win came with both Houses of Congress aligned against him (Reagan had a GOP Senate going into the 1984 elections).

Be patient! All we need do is wait for the democrats to overreach. It will happen! Obama is not prepared! Remember, Obama won primarily because Bush did everything wrong! Had Bush been a competent President, ACORN would have made no diffrence.

might it be possible that things changed a bit at harvard since the kennedys went there?

correct.

still playing the race card? it’s expired and will soon be ineffective, even against those with advanced cases of white guilt.

If they were the subject, “I” is correct, if they were an object, then “me” is correct.

here’s a clue: you’re judged by the company you keep. obama has been hanging around since day 1 with america-haters, white-haters, jew-haters, gay-haters, communists and crooks. i’m sorry, but at this point the burden of proof is on him to prove he does not share their beliefs. perhaps he might want to start by releasing all of his sealed-up or otherwise disappeared records that could clear his name.

i would put the obsequious media at #1, and stupid people with white guilt who think it would be “cool” to have a black male president would be #2.

clue: young white lefties think Hussein is a “cool” name; they think islam is cool. and the media was scared shitless that some of their liberal buddies at the other media outlets would accuse them of racism if the said one cross word about barky. throw in DNC support, a ton of foreign money, and 8 disastrous bush years, and it would have been hard for hussein to lose.

Actually, Bush, Sr., Clinton and Bush, Jr. all released their college records. Not surprisingly, Clinton was top of his class; Bush, Sr. did very well in college which rather surprised me; Bush, Jr. barely got passing grades – No surprise, there. He was the party boy of the bunch. In 2004, Kerry didn’t release a portion of his military records because they reflected the fact that he did poorly in school. We Know Bill Clinton is smart – he was a Rhoades Scholar. We have to take Obama’s word that he’s smart; and he’s proven himself to be So trustworthy hasn’t he?????? NOT.

he’s ruthless with a smile -

he had a tingle up his leg when he said it-

Not everything that floats to the top is CREAM.

“Intelligence is no impediment to Stupidity.” – Albert Einstein

as for the video.. isn’t that sad? just sad?

my god

If Obama has made himself believe he was raised by a single mother on welfare as an appeal to black urban voters, stretching or concoting stories of past drug use could only flesh out the story as long as necessary.

My maxim : refuse to believe ANYTHING this man says without corroboration to the fact.

This is like reading the commentary on Bush, Jr.’s 2000 and 2004 campaigns. The idea that because a person runs a successful campaign he will have a successful presidency is Ludicrous; Bush has proven it.

This situation is unreal.

Everything that OBO says is a lie.

Everythinbg that is said about him is a mere speculation.

And now that ghost will be POTUS ?

If he is a genius, he certainly hides it well.

Hey, maybe it’s all a strategy to make him appeal more to his base of the unenlightened and over-texted.

In that case, getting his ass kicked in twenty odd debates was a brilliant move.

Sure fooled me.

you don’t suppose affirmative action could have aided Hussein along the way, do you jon? that and maybe that he was a legacy cuz his daddy went to harvard? kind of dubya with Yale?
btw, as someone with both engineering and liberal arts degrees, let me say that i don’t think there is *any* liberal arts degree which could earn a person the title of “brilliant,” and that includes a law degree. it’s all just memorization and bullshitting.

‘Scuse me but Ayers and Dohrn are professors at Northwestern – am I supposed to be impressed?????

He’d win too.

You know how this country can’t resist a celebrity. Just look at the PE.

I’ve heard his books described as “semi-autobiographical”. That sounds less like “open and honest” and more like BS.

Obama is a strong supporter of affirmative action and racial quotas, having undoubtedly benefited from them his entire academic career.

http://chronicle.com/free/v54/i12/12a02402. htm

One of the early tests of Barack Obama’s political skills came when he was a law student at Harvard University in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

Gaining the support of both progressive and conservative editors, Mr. Obama was selected as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. He had decided to seek the post believing that he might help ease ideological tensions at the journal even as the campus was embroiled in divisive doctrinal and political debates over issues like faculty diversity.

The uproar included the protests of Derrick A. Bell Jr., the first black professor to win tenure at the law school, who took an unpaid leave of absence and eventually resigned over the lack of a tenured black woman on its faculty.

SAT,ACT, undergraduate grades?

Is this from the crowd that wanted to elect a guy who was 5th from the bottom of his class and had a running mate who had to attend 5-6 schools to get a degree in broadcasting?

Do you all ever take a moment and read what you write, no really?

Tell me you all really are not talking about the SAT/ACT scores of the president elect in the course of serious conversation, please!

I should have added that you all are discussing SAT/ACT for a guy who graduated Magna Cum Laude, Harvard Law?

that is soo true. I think we wouold have elected a potted plant over a republican because of the bitterness we have from the last 8 years. The people blaming Palin for McCain’s loss are off base–they need to be looking to Bush if they are seeking to place blame for McCain’s loss.

We had the opportunity to elect one of the best men in the history of American Presidential Canidacy and Bush deprived us of that chance.

Can one person name ONE thing that Obama has done that makes him so smart? I’m not talking about running a campaign and winning the election.

I will bet anyone money that the media and all the congress will do everything in their power to protect & cover up for Obama. I know that there is no way they will allow history to record our first AA president as being a bad one. He will end up being written as our greatest president ever – no matter what.

He did not graduate with that honor–or he would have been cramming it down our throats during the campaign. He is actually quite mum on his academic record, tho not about ANY of his other achievements so we certainly cannot attribute it to humility or modesty. He brags about his accomplishments and OBAMABOTS cram them down our throats all the time…no academic brags tho. Guess thats because they are like his birth certificate–something he needs to hide.

BTW graduation with honors doesn’t make you any better or smarter a person than any other. What it does mean is that you can sit in a classroom and regurgitate the professor’s statements. Last I checked that won’t fly as commander in chief. We in America place far too much value on college degrees and honors–our education system is broke so why do we rely on it to tell us who is smart? Some of our founding fathers who wrote one of the most monumental documents in human history did not have the blesssing of university–we should be looking at the QUALITY of the CHARACTER of the MAN, not the price tag of his academic record. But if we look at it that way Obama just doesn’t measure up.

You call it pathetic, pathological. We call it vetting a candidate and debating what the media has fed us about him. And we are doing it because NO ONE ELSE WILL.

It is the OBLIGATION of EVERY voter to explore EVERY candidate, the good and the bad. To explore what the media feeds you, not taking THEIR word for it.

Call us what you like, we are patriotic Americans, fulfilling our duty to ensure our country is in the hands of a capable leader.
Since the DNC and media did not feel they needed to check into him or substanciate any of the statments they made about him.
So we will do their job for them.

I am similar to you in IQ and work in academics. IQ is not enough – persistence, passion, hard work, connections and LUCK contribute to your success as much as, or even more, than IQ alone. There are types of intelligence which these tests do not measure, but I believe are more important for your overall success – emotional and social. Clinton had plenty of it which made it easy for him to connect with people and ultimately make him successful.

Don’t listen to the IQ assessments of the Press. The ONLY way you can really have your IQ determined is by evaluation from a neurologist in a lab with equipment to moniter the brain function.
ALso IQ does not determine how capable you are or will be. It shows what your POTENTIAL is–you have plenty of opportunity to then flush that down the toilet later in life.
At current 110 is the accepted “average” IQ rating. Genisu level I believe has been elevated to 136 now. Also it is not a straight points scale–it functions exponentially–like the rickter scale for measureing earthquakes. so 136 is exponentially higher than 110.
Debating Obama’s briliance based on supposed IQ scores is really not a decent use of time. We can throw numbers around all we want, we won’t ever get a real one. Most people never have their IQ assessed–usually it is only done after brain injury to assess the damage. Besides Obama would never release his medical records anyway so we will never have a number.
However even if we had a number it doesn’t mean he actually uses it. A high IQ does not mean you will do well in school. Many people with high IQs don’t do well in school-Einstein is an excellent example of that.

What we can do to assess Obama’s brilliance is really examine what he has done. The one peice of writing that we can attribute to him without question–the one peice he published in the Harvard Law Review was written at a 5th grade level. Now writintg ability is tytpically not an indication of IQ or intellect however for a college graduate being assesed at a 5th grade level really leaves one a bit wanting. It could indicate an inability to assimilate the material presented in class beyond the basics required to pass the courses.

Certainly he is no dummy. But what so many are attributing to his “brilliance” they really should be attributing to his ability to take instruction from very skilled campaign managers and clever speech writers.

Not necessarily…if you were pushed along and promoted by elite kingmakers, you might succeed despite a lazy, underachieving attitude with overtones of pathological narcissism and an accompanying sense of entitlement.

Which somehow diminishes his claims to fame.
I think Barack’s IQ is about fifth down the list of presidential qualifications. Harry
Truman was no brainiac but he was capable of
making decisions. Most importantly, he had the
welfare of the country foremost on his agenda.

Obama demonstrates no overarching sense of purpose on these important issues. High
rhetoric does not a leader make.

He was into radical ideologies during all
his undergraduate days. Part of that mindset is experimenting in illegal substances, the
natural route of young people who want to prove independence from the status quo. He was mentored by extreme leftist influences from birth and developed as a tool by his handlers.

The missing, undisclosed documents are covering his tracks. Get it?

Pure and simple…this ain’t rocket science.
It’s political strategy.

Do you read what we write before posting and bitching about it?

What we are saying is how does the guy know Obama is soooo brilliant and the smartest person ever elected president? We know nothing about him.

It’s not about electing the smartest man in the world. If that were the case, we would have had presidents like Thomas Edison (I say Edison and not someone like Tesla because Edison was born in the US). Or Al Gore would have won hands down to Bush.

And yes, some are talking about the SAT scores in a serious conversation. The fact that you just take it at face value that he’s beyond genius is ridiculous.

I like that McCain has nothing to hide. He can say “yeah, I was a bad student….but I grew up!” and still be accepted. I think it’s nice he’s not trying to be something he’s not. He was young and partied.

And by the way…it’s not like Obama wasn’t young and never partied & didn’t apply himself. He was out snorting coke in his youth!

If this guy is soooo awestruck by Obama’s brilliance, then could you imagine if someone like Wes Clark would have been elected? Someone who actually is brilliant?

no one brought up the race issue until his supporters crammed it down our throats. We don’t care what color he is. He could be chartreuse and we’d still b*tch about his integrity!

Liars, cheaters, decievers, and crooks come in EVERY COLOR.

Anyone who doesn’t know where the “criminal,” “crook,” and other “sinister” accusations come from obvously has been blind to everything that has been going on.

Sure if a soon to be convicted criminal offers me a nice realistate deal I’ll take it. Sure if a domestic terrorist offers me a position on board wth him I’ll take it. Sure if he asks me to review his book not only will I write a labish review for him but my wife will host a panel to discuss its greatness. Sure if I do not have to tell you who is giving me money i won’t, Sure if I do not have to prve I can actually run for this job I won’t.

He had to make these choices again and again to rack up this kind of filth…but you know, they are all “isolated incidents” It doesn’t say anything about this man’s JUDGEMENT.

Yes it bothers us. The key is to make that bother into a cry the country cannot ignore for the next four years.

We complain about not knowing what Bush is up to, but we give Obama a pass on his entire history, grades, citizenship, health, associations, loyalty…I cannot understand how we can stomach this.

I understand that McCain wanted to run a clean campaign, one of respect and free of the typical mudslinging–mudslinging and lies that he was a victim of in 2000 at the hands of the Bush campaign.
But when fighting a cheater fighting fair means you lose.

Including me! An AA who closely followed the Primaries and witnessed his incompetence against Hillary in their many debates….He is a first class con-man. I just don’t get it. No college records, no medical records, no birth certificate?

Defined his “own message?”
His message was bought and paid for long before he even came up with the idea to run.
Every step of his career has been set up for him; thinking that his campaign was any different is nieve.
He did not swoop out of nowhere to steal the primaries from Clinton–it was set up back when he spoke in 2004 at the DNC–thats was the DNC introducing him to the world–setting him up with a “great” speech to set the tone for his campaign. The fact that Hillary was not permitted to call for an accounting of the votes on the floor of the convention only proves it. I dont think they would have ever allowed her to have the nomination.

So since Affirmative Action got him into the highest job in the land does that mean that African Americans are no longer disengranchized and thus no longer eligible for affirmative action?

claiming his foreign citizenship OVER his Amercan ctizenship after the ageof 18–since we do NOT recognize dual citizenship–doesn’t that make him a naturalized US citizen rather than a natural born US citizen?
Certainly raveling under a forgein passport to a country that has a BAN on US travel poses an issue.

What odds against him?
He had millions pouring in from undisclosed sources, no checks on credit cards sending him cash
Media who didn’t question him in the slightest and actually worked to discredit and humiliate anyone who dared to ask an honest question of him
And hundreds of fantatical fans who went around harassing and intimidating his opposition.

Odds against him my ass. The only thing not in his pocket was Fox news…and even O’reiley was soft on him.

BTW he was elected to the Law Review–they were no longer selecting a person on merit and do you know who else graduated from Harvard? Barney Frank.
Not a resounding endorsement there.
Additionlly, sicne we CANNOT assertain that he actually was admitted to EITHER of his schools on ACEDMIC MERIT we just don’t know if he got in farily now do we? So that really cannot be used to show how “smart” he is.

He was smart enough to advance himself over the course of his life using “white guilt” and affirmative action. Many people do that, he’s just taken it to the max.

But seriously, is he supposed to be some Boy Genius?

While we’re at it, why not discuss why he is also the World’s Strongest Man?

Listen to him ummm… and ..errrr his way through press conferences and debates. Compare that to say, Hillary, who is truly is Real Smart (I’m not saying she’s genius level, but then again, i’m not saying she’s not, either).

I’ll give him “politically smart”. I’ll also admit that it *smarts* every time i think about how he stole the nomination and the election.

he wrtoe one article, on abortion, nothing else. Other editors in the Reveiw’s past wrote prolifically.
And he was NOT a professor. He gave lectures.
Anyone who can read can give a lecture. It doesn’t even prove he wrote his own lectures.

I wouldn’t know…he won’t show them to us.

We know he was a lawyer for ACORN…

Oh and technically he is no longer a lwayer. He relinquished his lisence to practice law. Not let it lapse–but actually GAVE IT UP.
Now why would you do that?
Here’s one reason: It can’t be taken away embarassing you publicly if you just give it up. You cannot be taken to the bar for review f you surrender the lisence.

Great credentials.

And there is no proof he got into any of his schools on academic merit. We are also not permitted to know how he performed while there.

Again great credentials.

I see your point. Something that someone alleges he did or had is good enough to be able to deploy my family members and countryment to war, to tube our economy and decide my fate.

Yeah…I’ll believe he has credentials and qualifications when I see them.
Lets starts with his birth certificate.

You know the guy who graduated from my University “magna” withdrew from 3 semesters because they were too stressful?
Here is something to consider:
and Independant reading course is weighted the same as quantum physics.

Until I see his records “magna” means nothing.

A magazine, conservative, liberal, extraterrestrail–irrelevant. They can SAY anything. Them claiming he graduated Magna does not make it true.

We want it from Harvard Law school.

frequently the media is given information so that it can be referred back to–its called PLANTING A CITATION. Its a skill many collegiates learn.
It does not make the statement true. Also since his records are sealed how do we know the magazine could even get that information with any assurances?????

So your answer to Obama not giving his stuff up is to change the subject and shoot at a women who is running for a lesser office and offered to make all of the above available if requested. Nice way to dodge the issue. Been taking lessons from Obama?

Bingo. If Bush had not made the American people so bitter McCain would have wiped the floor with the Obamination. Consider all of the millions more Obama spent and still–they were neck and neck.

After the last8 years the fact that Obama did not crush the republican ticket only shows what a bad candidate he really is.

Palin transferred schools because of funding issues. She did not have wealthy friends or family to BUY her education.

And if you are questioning John McCain’s capacity to lead ask the men he led in that POW camp, that credit their survivial on his repsence there. Look at his willingness to stay in the prison camp and suffer so he could not become a tool of prapaganda against his country.
We were not looking to elect him on his grades but on his caliber as a man based on his deeds.
We don’t have any deeds to look at to assess Obama’s caliber so what are we supposed to look at? All he has ever done is school.

Take a look at this conversation and then look at your response. We go from SAT/ACT’s to McCain being a POW?

You all don’t get it, you (not him) diminish his courageous service every time use that experience as a punch line.

Back in my formative years 30 years ago, I met and came to know Jan Scruggs

http://www.vvmf.org/index.cfm?SectionID=46

Though never having served in war, I started to understand the horrors. The service of these men should be the things of big, important recognition not the punch line to win a internet “who is smarter” argument.

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It is Michelle and I and not Michelle and me

Not necessarily Mike. The statement “The MSM gave the White House to Michelle and me.”, is not only correct grammatically, it’s also factually accurate.

Michelle and me

awwww!, One the few instances were BO came in second but notice the reflexive use of the word “ME”