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Open Thread * Pop The Dumbo’s Balloon

There are few bloggers more dense and truly offensive — in a venal way — than John Cole at Balloon Juice.

There were times that TalkLeft‘s Big Tent Democrat (BTD) — who used to be Armando, a very powerful player at Daily Kos, until … (we won’t go there) — made a WHOLE LOT of sense during this election season. After disappearing from Daily Kos, BTD joined up with Jeralyn Merritt. BTD was always for Obama, but he often wrote honest critiques of Obama. Jeralyn was for Hillary during the primaries, but she instantly drank the KoolAid Hopium. And, you know, there was always something pitifully naive about Jeralyn. (I can’t bring up a specific instance at the moment, but often replied to Andy’s e-mails to me about something Jeralyn wrote with, “Boy, is she naive.”) BTD? He’s a lot of things, but he is NEVER naive, and I truly appreciate that about him.

Anyway, the dense and venally offensive John Cole decided to attack BTD today because BTD dared to speak the truth about “The One.” I quote BTD who the venal John Cole calls “Moron“:

As expected, the Obama Cult does not like to read any questioning of their Dear Leader. They demand we all STFU.
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What I can not understand is the ridiculous Cult of Obama who believes that not a negative or questioning word should be said about Obama ever. Oh sure, they’ll say “wait till he is President.” But then they’ll say “wait till he finishes his first year.” And after that, “wait for the mid terms.” And then “wait until after reelection.” In short, members of a cult can never have the leader of the cult criticized. That is how the Republicans have done it, and no one is as zealous as a convert.

Not to worry, they’ll be singing the “SYFP” song for the next 8 years and we’ll keep ignoring them. For some of us, it is the issues, not the pol.

The venal one replies, in his piece titled “We’re a Cult, and You’re A … Moron” — and I’m quoting it so you don’t have to click on the link and give the venal one any hits:

GET OFF ON YOUR BAD SELF, YOU PARAGON OF PRINCIPLE, YOU!

With Democrats like this, who needs Red State? If there was anyone who was more tedious during this last election cycle than Armando, aka Big Tent Democrat, let me know. Besides turning one of my favorite sites, TalkLeft, into a pseudo-Puma cess-pool during the primaries (But he supports Obama, dont’cha know- speaking for him only!), BTD’s bigger sin was dispensing bad advice to the Obama campaign on an almost daily basis. If concern trolling was an art form, BTD would be Michelangelo and the 2008 Democratic primary his Sistine Chapel.

Because I am short on patience, and, at heart, a compassionate person, I am not going to go through the TalkLeft archives and dig up where BTD gravely intones that Obama can not win the white vote, can not win the Jewish vote, can not win the Hispanic vote, and on and on. I will not dig up all the stupid god damned advice he gave to the Obama campaign (which they, thank GOD, ignored). I will not look up the umpteen posts where the left’s own pompous village idiot warned that Obama could not win without Hillary on the ticket. I will not dig up the polling data that he consistently misread and always curiously interpreted as showing a need for Hillary on the ticket. I will let you do that for yourself, and you can enjoy your own historical retrospective into BTD’s idiocy. Yes, I voted for Bush twice, but I proudly state I am not as stupid as BTD. Period. …

You can read the rest of We’re a Cult, and You’re A … Moron if you want. It’s a free country, and a few hits won’t help him that much.

I suppose he makes some points in that last paragraph quoted. Many of us at No Quarter ALSO thought Obama couldn’t win the general election — for many of the same reasons that BTD cited.

Here is my list of reasons for that astonishing, against-all-common-sense win:

1) In-the-tank mainstream media
2) John McCain, who was NOT the same John McCain of 2000 — just a tad too old and no longer the maverick of yore. (If the John McCain of 2000 had run, I believe he could have won.)
3) In-the-tank mainstream media
4) Obamabot and Obama Campaign Thuggery and Intimidation
5) In-the-tank mainstream media
6) Obamabot and Obama Campaign Thuggery and Intimidation
7) In-the-tank mainstream media
8) Obamabot and Obama Campaign Thuggery and Intimidation
9) In-the-tank mainstream media
10) Obamabot and Obama Campaign Thuggery and Intimidation

ADD TO THIS LIST!

OPEN THREAD!

………………….

See also: Bronwyn’s “Don’t you wish we were as superior and elite as TalkLeft’s Jeralyn Merritt?

  • Nellie

    Obama was an “International Student” at Columbia….he applied and registered as a Kenyan citizen.

    Obama also traveled to Pakistan as a college student at a time when it was illegal for US citizens to visit Pakistan. He travled to Pakistan on his Kenyan Passport.

    Under Kenyan law, people are allowed to hold dual citizenship until age 21 (toward the end of college). Obama did hold Kenyan citizenship until age 21 and admits it on his web site, though he hides the admission on a “fight the smears” page. The FACT of his Kenyan citizenship is not a smear. But is surely something he does not want people to know about. I think that most people would be surprised to learn of his Kenyan Citizenship into the 1980s and that the next President of the United States of America applied to and attended two elite US colleges as a “foreign exchange student.”

    All legal, all true, but truly surprising to many people, whether they support him or not.

  • bemused

    All right, I can see “O the foreign student at Columbia” is the theme du jour. Now even in the ’60′s when I was first in college, foreign students had to have a student visa. There were foreign student advisors who were supposed to keep tabs on the foreign students. The INS and the IRS both wanted to know all about money and there were rules about where it came from, especially loans. (Of course, O. has always had some shady sources for money, I think.) The point is, this is not the way to hide, by being a foreign student, it’s a way to have twice as many people on your tail. I remember a Canadian friend who dropped out, the school reported him MIA, eventually he got stopped for a traffic ticket and deported instantly. So where’s all the fallout paperwork?

    Only slightly related, I found this interesting paper about the big Columbia protest of 1968:
    http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/1968/
    Yessir, they knew how to have fun in the good old days.

  • Bud White

    Add big, big money to the list. Obama outspent McCain by 8-1. Oh, that’s the same guy who promised to take public financing.

  • DAB

    I agree that Jeralyn sometimes seems a bit daft and naive. I visited her blog during the primaries and have seen her in a Bloggingheads.tv conversation and also remember her from long-ago TV appearances. So many of the Democratic blogs split in two during the primaries with Hillary supporters no longer welcome i.e. Daily Kos, HuffPo, Move On, etc. Others that supported Hillary but instantly snorted Kool-Aid when it was time also chased away any dissenters i.e. Jeralyn Merritt’s Talk Left and Taylor Marsh.

    It’s really nice how That One has brought all Democrats together, isn’t it? Not a good omen for bringing ALL Americans together in the days to come though.

    I really am grateful to No Quarter for allowing the full evolution of attitudes and emotions to take place within that community that was displaced and had no home. THANKS LARRY for letting us have our say!

  • McHope

    11)Campaign funds measuring 8 to 1 compared to his opponent
    12)In-the-tank mainstream media
    13)ACORN
    14)In-the-tank mainstream media
    15)Caucus Fraud
    16)In- the -tank mainstream media
    17)Boatloads of cash from illegal donors

  • DAB

    Don’t forget “in the tank mainstream media”.

  • Typewriterstreaming

    11) voter fraud
    12) voter registration fraud
    13) caucus fraud
    14) campaign finance fraud
    15) stealing other people’s ideas namely Hillary Rodham Clinton’s.
    16) let dead people vote fraud
    17) let a select group of people vote several times
    18) have the media call states for you early and never have much of anyone tell the country you didn’t really win all of those states including Indiana.
    19) become President so you can bury all the deception in the Bush garden of deceit.

  • Judy L. NC

    11. (but should be #1) HE’S NOT GEORGE W. BUSH.

    In my recent past visiting Talkleft before the conventions, I thought BTD only THOUGHT Obama would win, not that he actually endorsed him or that, gawd forbid, he was the best person for the job.

    So I guess we should leave the light on for “Armando”. What do you think????

  • propertius

    Do you have a link for this?

  • xax

    I wonder when they will wake up and realize they’ve been had. That kool aid is strong stuff.

    “Bush garden of deceit.”

    Excellent.

  • Mr.Murder

    Who cares about John Cole? He was wrong about everything. The war, the deficit, etc.

    Juan Cole has more important news, about how the US was falsifying INTEL on Iran through PR campaigns.

    I’m shocked, shocked that allegations are emerging at the International
    Atomic Energy Agency that US-supplied “documents” from a laptop
    acquired in 2004 indicating a secret Iranian weapons program were
    probably forgeries.
    The IAEA clearly hopes that the Obama administration
    will stop trying to undermine it and will stop the Washington habit of
    using forged documents as a basis for aggressive military responses to
    nuclear programs
    and instead will opt for diplomacy.

    –Posted By Juan Cole to Informed Comment at 11/10/2008 02:17:00 PM

  • Blow

    So how’s that Whitey Tape coming along?

    LOL

  • McHope

    Couldn’t possibly, even if we tried.

  • xax

    Evidence??

  • Nellie

    I’m not saying he was a spy or a sneak or that he had any idea that he would ever be in the position he is in today, so the amount of scrutiny given foreign exchange students is interesting but not a plus or a minus. It was a smart strategy for him to get into very competitive schools. It makes sense for people to use truthful facts to their advantage when trying to get into such exclusive schools. I don’t hold it against him. I think we’d agree that he was smart and strategic enough to realize that applying as a Kenyan was a lot smarter than applying as just another US student. Few Kenyans would be able to apply having the elite private high school credentials that he had. As long as he had halfway decent grades, he would be able to get in.

    The issue at hand is that Obama does not want anyone to know that he was a “foreign exchange student” in US colleges. He is a man who claims to be the most open, honest candidate ever. But, once again, he is not.

    Obama is not who he says he is.

  • http://www.davidicke.com/index.php/ james wootin

    11) In-the-tank mainstream media
    12) Hillary’s help on the campaign stump
    13) In-the-tank mainstream media
    14) Bill’s help on the campaign stump
    15) In-the-tank mainstream media
    16) foreign donations
    17) In-the-tank mainstream media
    18) new world order
    19) In-the-tank mainstream media
    20) secret Muslim mind control techniques
    21) In-the-tank mainstream media
    22) reptilian humanoids
    23) In-the-tank mainstream media
    24) bohemian grove
    25) In-the-tank mainstream media
    26) cfr
    27) In-the-tank mainstream media
    28) bilderberger group
    29) In-the-tank mainstream media
    30) trilateral commision
    31) In-the-tank mainstream media
    32) the grassy knoll
    33) In-the-tank mainstream media
    34) the grassy gnoll
    35) In-the-tank mainstream media

  • Liz

    This is a very interesting article by Paul Street, the author of Barack Obama and the Future of American Politics.

    http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=879&Itemid=1
    Barack Obama: The Empire’s New Clothes
    by Paul Street

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    This might interest you:

    Comment by Bud White | 2008-11-12 12:53:56

    Hillary won more votes than Obama. Read Dr. Long’s work on how the nomination was stolen. You may learn something.

    http://www.lynettelong.com/CAUCUSFRAUD/

    Comment by Galt’s Pizza Parlor | 2008-11-12 13:31:28

    Bud, its not enough that they “won” the election. Now it is their mission to make us all conform to their group-think. We will never join the OBorg collective! :shock:

    And I second your call to thank Larry and everyone else who keeps the blog going. They have given the remaining dissenters a voice. When dissent disappears so does the republic, for it was dissenters who founded her.

  • Soldier of Christ

    So what! He has a kenya citizenship. What is the big deal. The most important thing is if he was born in the United States, and no-one is questioning this even Fox network, who at this time in my opinin is being another coward added to the mix. Fox is the station that I am very upset with. They bombed him with Ayers, Acorn, Rev Wright and all the other associations but they failed to report the birth certificate issue. This would have helped in the election. Now, it is being sweeped under the rug. By the Republicans too. What are they afraid of? That people will start rioting? Who cares, get a back bone- ask the magic question- Were you born in the United States, Obama?
    Before this guy is swore in, this magic question must be asked. Put sassy straight talking Palin to ask the question if you Republican men don’t have a backbone. You all are so fast in condemning her because she is a woman (Rove-Brit and some of the anchormen) that you seemed to lose your backbone between Jan 08- to Nov08. Now, you got Republican Bush helping the situation by giving Obama’s illegal aunt a pass. Wouldn’t pass it that Obama and him made a deal for this one.

  • wodiej

    I don’t think the kool aid will ever wear off. I know an avid Bush supporter and even though she says now she doesn’t like everything he did, he is ending his term now. The entire 8 years Bush has been in office she has upheld everything he has done, even to the point of getting angry and irrational-sound familar??

    Got no use, time or energy for people like this. They are irrational, radical, overemotional and unstable. That’s the kool aid drinkers. They just need someone to pay attention to them.

  • lark

    Business models are worthless and stop working because University and College models for granting degrees are also worthless and not working. I have discussed that in previous threads. But who cares, no?

  • Pennsylvania Red

    Georgia Congressman Paul Broun criticizes 0bama’s Marxist agenda, particularly the civilian security force.

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    The koolaid drinkers importance is only in their own minds. No one ever had a chance against a candidate with the media covering and propagandizing for them. Now that the goal has been achieved all those koolaid drinkers have been thrown under the bus. They are too stoned at the moment to know it.

  • AnninCA

    I followed this story this morning. My take?

    Isn’t it delicious watching the far left eat one another?

    fun, fun, fun!

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    Lark I think that is above my intellectual pay grade? I might care if I understood the premise?

  • Jorsh

    WHITEY TAPE! WHITEY TAPE! WE WANT OUR WHITEY TAPE!

  • http://www.davidicke.com/index.php/ james wootin

    sqrt(-1)) lack of whitey tape
    37) In-the-tank mainstream media

  • /www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo&eurl trixta

    Bingo! “Wouldn’t pass it that Obama and him made a deal for this one.” Perhaps the Bush’s GOP made more than this deal with the Dems and Obama. Didn’t Pelosi say that impeachment was off the table?

  • MG-PUMA

    Buyer’s remorse is already setting in, folks!

    Cafepress is already offering “Don’t Blame Me I Voted McCain” bumperstickers – lol.

    MG-PUMA

  • notrees

    SDSes and the educated who voted for the precious thug WHO are educated beyond their intellect and are the most ignorant of all. Buy em books and send em to school and what do they learn? Obama is cool.

    And– Howard Dean, J Kerry, T. Kennedy, (long list), would not stand to be bested by a woman. Not forgetting Dean is just as much a socialist as the one he forced on the democratic party. Pelosi? A jealous bitch. Reid? A dog that hunts for any flunky in the party (DSA).

    AND—IN–THE TANK MAINSTREAM MEDIA. NOT TO FORGET THE MIDDLE EAST MONEY FOR OBAMA’S COFFER.

  • michelle obama

    http://www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/

    Please take the time to check out Leo Donofrio’s new lawsuit. This time it’s in the Supreme Court and will be reviewed by Justice Clarence Thomas.

  • MG-PUMA

    ….wanted to add that I have XM radio and XM has eliminated Oprah and Friends radio show. Not enough listeners – lol

    MG-PUMA

  • lark

    I am not good at short or long explanations. If I were I could make some money writing.

    But notice for example that as the economy of the U.S. gets sort of overhauled, I guess university students in schools of business would be demanding new text books, or would they?

    I would like to be a professor at a University or College and have applied to be one. But I have said that I am not willing to teach the past, historical events anymore. As a university professor I would not want to teach how things were done or even how they are done so that my students get a degree on how things work and by such means secure a position in industry. No. I would teach new things, things not known today or not yet in place. I would write new formulas and new approaches and have my students do the same. Their degrees will be in things that are possible and yet to be tested. Like when Pharmaceutical invent drugs and put them to the test.

    Universities need to challenge the present. When I was doing a PhD my professors, many of them had done these stupid projects with large manufacturers including GM and they were so proud of their questionnaires and data frequencies. But to me they were all baloney. Of course I had quit. Mostly because I am not going to pay for a dissertation when I will find no one that can relate to it. And so the world spins, but I’m not in it.

  • ArmyMomForObama

    actually I’m listening to Oprah and friends right now on XM radio. I think they just moved it to a new station with the sirius merger. see, this is how flat out lies get spread around about people. :)

  • ArmyMomForObama

    i hardly think that is an Obama voter who created that t-shirt. Anyone can create a cafe press account and have anything printed. it’s not as though they thought it up at cafepress.

  • ArmyMomForObama

    correction – bumper sticker – not t-shirt. thought I’d go ahead and fix that before someone ATTACKED me and called me names.

  • Lizzy

    I think the turmoil in the economy gave the Big O a tremendous boost.

  • notrees

    Obama went to Pakistan just after the call went out from Peshwar Pakistan for all the Arab youths to partake in Jihad against Russia’s invasion of Afghanistan (1980), Obama visited Pakistan early 1981. There WAS a link on the old GOOGLE –”The Voice Of America”, an interview of Obama by some Greek broadcasting in which Obama describes the mountains of Afghanistan-Pakistan. I could never pull up the entire interview.

  • tek

    Yes but the media keeps saying that Obama is the one who will UNITE us!

    Bwahaha!

    Did BTD lay into The One? I have to go over and read it.

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    I don’t see anything at least yet from the SCOTUS to verify this. All I see is Berg v Obama et al on the SCOTUS site.

  • tek

    BTD stated more than once that he favored Obama because Obama was the “media darling.” I asked him once if he thought we should just give in and let the media choose our president. Never got an answer.

  • tek

    Yup!

    There’s no democracy in America anymore. The corporate wealthy choose the candidate and do whatever they have to to get HIM in office. With Obama they had to meltdown the economy.

  • lark

    I think I understand today this issue of ‘Natural Born’ citizen better than when I woke up. It is clear to me that if Obama does not prove it then he is taking a liability to each citizen. Once sworn, any damage he causes by his actions as President are his responsibility to us. He would need to purchase liability insurance, like every one else does when they are in the business of serving the public. Citizens that perceive or experience damages will have the right to have a court address their damages. That’s the way I understood what I read when I followed the link provided in a previous thread. Just the way I understand it, nothing else.

  • tek

    Exactly. Who was it had the popcorn? Pass it on over.

  • CE415

    Add to the list

    When the economy went south so did McCain’s chances

  • tek

    I had lots of professors in grad school who had been at some radical university during the Counter Culture days. Believe me, these people are some of the most vicious I’ve ever encountered. One reason I sympathize so deeply with Hillary is because I’ve seen how these far left people get peeved at women who are smarter than they are and work tirelessly to destroy the women. They love elevating lackluster pupils. Same thing in politics.

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    11) voter fraud
    12) voter registration fraud
    13) caucus fraud
    14) campaign finance fraud
    15) stealing other people’s ideas namely Hillary Rodham Clinton’s.
    16) let dead people vote fraud
    17) let a select group of people vote several times
    18) have the media call states for you early and never have much of anyone tell the country you didn’t really win all of those states including Indiana.
    19) become President so you can bury all the deception in the Bush garden of deceit.
    20) Ignorance of voting PARTY over COUNTRY

  • susan

    I’ve had a “Don’t Blame Me I Voted for Hillary” sticket on my car for months.

  • susan

    sticker

  • ArmyMomForObama

    where’s the whitey tape again?

  • Grumpy Code Monkey

    Cole is far left?! Now that’s comedy.

  • beebop

    I am totally happy to be labelled a moron versus a hopey dopey nopey. I would rather be considered mentally dificient and using my limited capabilities to their fullest than shaking my head in denial and refusing to see what is as plain as the nose on one’s face. I’d put the “moron” bag boy at my grocery store up against Michelle 0bama for usefulness anytime.

  • socalannie

    Yep! And it couldn’t have happened to a snottier group of people. Well, unless it was happening at dailysatan or fluffpo. Still, I can see this happening at those sites also. Bark hasn’t even begun his “rule” yet and thieves fall out.

  • KFaye

    What if it isn’t his place of birth that he is hiding? Clearing he is hiding something related to his birth certificate, but what if it is something other than his place of birth? Place of birth is just the easiest explanation.

  • beebop

    go blow yourself little boy.

  • BubbaHyde

    Need a “Don’t Blame Me, You Voted For Him” bumper sticker

  • http://www.patriotroom.com Bill Dupray

    SCOTUS: National Security More Important Than Inconvenience to Whales

    http://patriotroom.com/scotus-national-security-more-important-than-inconvenience-to-whales/

  • notrees

    YEAH! I suppose you never heard of Tokyo Rose. She used the radio to spread her lies and propoganda too –just like the heavy weight Operah uses the airwaves. :)

  • Judy L. NC

    Exactly. So that’s why I thought it was just him lukewarmly accepting the inevitable, rather than real enthusiasm.

  • beebop

    Your holding it in your butt cheeks is my guess, but hell, I thought that no one in their right mind would vote for 0bama and look what happened … millions of people who thought that “hope” and “change” were a platform voted for a guy who never accomplished a damn thing for anyone other than himself. I guess there is one born every minute and they all got together and voted themselves a president. Who knew? :)

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    OMFG I have to get one of those bumper stickers. And then I am off to the tattoo parlor – “I Told You Dumbazzes So!” on my forehead, azz and arms. ROFLMAO.

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    It’s real Galt. America’s Right has a good explanation about it.

  • MG-PUMA

    Hi!

    Sorry you’re wrong. XM didn’t just move Oprah, she’s been eliminated. This change has occurred over DirecTV. Maybe its for the DirecTV market only, but nonetheless, she’s down.

    The magazine is the next to go. Sales are off 15+ percent. Not going to make it in this market.

    MG-PUMA

  • beebop

    Maybe if they just didn’t feature her grinning face on it every month sales would pick up? A thought …. but in the mean time (not a typo. meant the word to be two words)… couldn’t happen to a better person. Our ABC affiliate is now “reminding” us during the evening news hour that she’s on. Really? hahahahahaha. Again …. Sarah should tell her she’ll come on after the 2012 election which is one year after that wretched show is set to go dark.

  • beebop

    i hardly think

    You had me at hello :)

  • TorchWood

    Bumper Sticker?! Catch up. I bought my HILARY 2012 T-Shirt in NYC LAST MONTH and still wear it proudly with a short hiatus to make time for my Phillies gear.

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    ACTION ALERT ON PELOSI TO STOP WORKSITE ENFORCEMENT RAIDS BY ICE

    House Speaker Pelosi has touched off a new round of fighting over whether the Homeland Security Department should continue to stage controversial raids of worksites around the country. That may foreshadow a dispute that could move front and center when the new Congress convenes in January. Pelosi indicated at a news conference Wednesday that she supports an end to worksite enforcement operations nationwide by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which is part of the Homeland Security Department. She said the urgency of putting together comprehensive immigration reform legislation has been intensified by the raids. “How do we end the ICE raids, have a situation where we can end the ICE raids as we put together the comprehensive immigration reform?” she asked. http://www.nationaljournal.com/congressdaily/cdp_20081110_4356.php?related=true&story1=null&story2=null&story3=null

    The only worksite raids that have taken place in the past year and a half are because they involved American identity theft. These are not just random worksites; they are sites where the Department of Justice knows American identity theft is taking place.

    A Pelosi spokesman said the speaker has long expressed concerns that the Raids are ineffective and “unnecessarily divide families at the expense of children.”

    Well if that is the underlying reason; Congress should not send soldiers off to war in Iraq, Afghanistan, or any area outside the United States because it “unnecessarily divides families at the expense of children.” Congress should place a moratorium on enforcement and punishment on any criminal who has a family because it “unnecessarily divides families at the expense of children.” Let’s not just give this benefit to illegal alien thieves.

    Millions of Americans are out of work in America. Nancy Pelosi should be calling for increased worksite enforcement in America. We need to make sure the few jobs left, are being done by American citizens and legal immigrants.

    Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid should be protecting the tax payer’s jobs so we can continue to bail out Wall Street, Main Street, Auto Row and everyone else they put on the commercial welfare rolls.

    Nancy Pelosi should be doing everything to protect Americans from identity theft, and holding criminals accountable regardless of whether it “unnecessarily divides families at the expense of children.”

    This nonsense has gone on long enough! This Congress continues to decide policy that “unnecessarily divides Americans from their jobs and their hard earned dollars”, No more immunity for illegal aliens stealing jobs and identity.

    Call Nancy Pelosi today in her office in San Francisco (415) 556-4862 and tell her what you think about her proposal of stopping worksite enforcement raids! Tell her what you think of her upcoming proposal of amnesty. Make you voice heard!

    Enough!

    It’s time Americans looked out for other Americans. Send this to everyone on your email list.

  • Newly Independent

    38.) Ignorant, $7/hr. troll jackasses like “Jorsh.”

  • McHope

    That is good news. :)

  • AF catfish

    This post would be a lot stronger if it was specific in how Jeralyn is naive. Otherwise it perpetuates negative stereotypes of women.

    Please NoQ, be specific when you criticize women and back it up with evidence.

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    Rahm Emanuel discussing the Civilian Defense Force…

    Yup…listen to this…Can you IMAGINE if Bush tried to pull this CRAP? Heil Rahm! Heil OVomit!

    http://libertyrepublican.multiply.com/journal/item/1232

  • Newly Independent

    where’s the whitey tape again?

    Up your ass – where your head is.

    Don’t you see it?

  • bemused

    If he was a foreign student, he should have had a visa. If he had a visa, he was affirming to Kenya and the US that he was a Kenyan citizen. Was this not essentially making that declaration he had to make by 1982, that he was their citizen? So would that citizenship really have lapsed?
    At any rate, he would have declared allegiance to another country in his adult life and that should disqualify him as natural born, in the sense of having a pure allegiance to the US.

  • AF catfish

    Jeralyn was one of the best bloggers before the Koolaide. She was focused on criminal justice and the unsustainable prison-industrial complex, and she has real knowledge through her experience as a criminal justice attorney.

    I hope comes down from her Koolaide high because she was one of the VERY FEW FEMALE VOICES in the blogosphere who had traction.

  • http://noquarter foxyladi14

    thats my avatar..lol..
    and i.m keeping it too..
    take that baraak..

  • skinny malinky

    Excellent response. If you’re insulting enough, no one will remember the Whitey Tape.

  • http://mybluecountry.googlepages.com/whattheobamademocratsaresayingposter Linda

    The only thing I could add to your well stated list is RACISM..

    And for that half a dozen short Balloon Juice(There’s your problem, you’e not supposed to fill Balloons with juice, so it keeps falling flat), O-shit didn’t win the white vote, he merely won the Racist vote. Yes, the sympathy vote of playing the Racist card nonstop. That is after all why he kept playing it. The racists voted for him to appear they weren’t racist and to absolve their sins.

    And Balloon Juice, we are more greatful that you can’t offer any advice, because you surely do not pay attention to reality and issues. But apprciate the laugh as you’re writing those pathetic words, accusations and name calling, that you are compassionate.

    I guess not just O-shit himself, but his Obots are showing they ALL are going to be W 2.0, history repeating itself, because American’s don’t pay attention.

  • csuzeq

    Duh!

    I voted for Mccain.

    duh, duh, double duh.

    You are preaching to the choir here. See of you can get yourself on MSNBO or ONN.

  • georgiapeach

    The only thing I can add to that list is ACORN.

  • http://counteringpropaganda.blogspot.com Joe The Citizen

    If you have a copy of that link – please post it, ok? There are many archives online – it can likely be retrieved.

  • csuzeq
  • ArmyMomForObama

    sling insults when the facts are not on your side. that’s what school children do. Are you gonna make it out of kindergarten this time around?

  • skinny malinky

    Love love love that mention of the Whitey Tape brings out such anger in the supporters of Larry. It hurts to be confronted with something you know there’s no decent response to, huh? But yeah, keep yelling and insulting and everyone will forget about the Whitey Tape.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    To heck with “traction.” I never read those so-called “major” blogs before the election and I won’t read them now. Much of the stuff I read online is pretty niche and obscure and I have never worried myself over keeping up with the so-called “in” bloggers. Never interested me.

  • skinny malinky

    Hey Larry, you oughta releast that Whitey Tape before Obama is elected.

    Oh, wait…

  • http://counteringpropaganda.blogspot.com Joe The Citizen

    It is a “kill white people” tape and it is where it was found originally. Online.

    Everything you need to know about Obama has been found online. Look in all archives and all parts of the Internet. Look at foreign archives.

    Noone can scrub it all. Google is not the only company that has archived sites and files.

    Reporters have had many files for at least a year and noone wants to release them.

    Just be prepared to have your beliefs shaken.

  • skinny malinky

    Can you provide a link? I find it very hard to believe that there’s a tape where one of the Obama’s advocates killing white people and and it never was brought to the open.

  • catherine

    Why am I NOT surprised that one of Oblah blah’s biggest followers voted for Bush TWICE!

    Eric Hoffer was so right. Ideologies may change but the psychology of fanaticism always remains the same for a true believer. Sick.

  • witness08

    I find it very strange that I got this email from David Plouffe@Obama.com today. What with all money they raised and all. Where did all that money go? They’ve been reviewing the books? What about an audit for campaign donations? Where’s the transparency in government they claimed we’d have? Where’s this change they’ve been talking about?

    “Our friends at the Democratic National Committee laid it all on the line to bring change this year.

    We’ve been reviewing the books, and the DNC went into considerable debt to secure victory for Barack and Joe. It took unprecedented resources to staff up all 50 states, train field organizers, and build the technology to reach as many swing voters as possible.
    It worked.
    But it also left the DNC in debt. So before we do anything else, we need to help pay for this winning strategy.”

    The email goes on to hawk commemorative “2008 Victory” tee shirts which you can get with a donation of $30.

  • http://mybluecountry.googlepages.com/whattheobamademocratsaresayingposter Linda

    …because the candidates and the supporters all acted the same?

    O
    shit

    …hang on baby,
    here we go again!

  • bayareavoter

    Democracy is obviously for sale; Nader is right.

    Another thing to add to the list is the American Idol-ization of the USA. They sold him as a popular brand with his own logo and song totally directed to the under-30 crowd. And it worked.

    Best marketing campaign ever. Empty calories made to look good for you.

    And don’t forget busing in kids from IL to the Iowa caucuses, the stolen MI and FL votes and Donkey Brazile’s plan from 2006 that gave more weight to the AA community’s votes in each state than the Hispanic and rural white votes so that even when Hillary won more votes, he garnered more delegates.

  • http://counteringpropaganda.blogspot.com Joe The Citizen

    Any direct link to that tape (michelle rant) would disappear as soon as posted. That’s why I keep encouraging people to go and do deep and wide searching. Things keep disappearing so save whatever you find immediately. Then send what you find to as many reporters and elected officials around the world from a gmail or hotmail address.

    Why are you surprised not to see it on the news? Did you see any of Obama’s New Party articles or newspapers on the news? Have you seen most of Hannity’s pile anywhere else???

    Noone will touch it.

    How hard is it for a mainstream reporter to ask how an American went to Pakistan (confirmed by Obama’s campaign) at a time Americans were not permitted?

    The media and most officials will not help us. YOU must do your own research and keep it quiet, yet send it around as much as possible. Obama has paid staff monitoring everything.

    They have uncanny abilities to come up with “reasonable” explanations for everything. They have done a great job of painting dissenters as “crazy old women” or nutcases or conspiracy theorists.

    Censorship of what is posted has been happening since the primaries. We are fighting against a very brilliant campaign of deception.

    The truth is out there.
    Please go look.
    Be careful.

  • Jorsh

    So…about that Whitey tape…

  • Pennsylvania Red

    actually I’m listening to Oprah and friends right now on XM radio.

    I wouldn’t brag on that…

  • James Guglielmino

    Oh, my God. What has happened to the once so respected Larry Johnson. Your blog reads like a wingnut site, flinging ad hominems hither and yon. What has become of you, Larry?
    Look, you predicted he couldn’t win. He won. (I cannot imagine anyone with your intelligence supporting a ticket with Sarah Palin on it
    The point is that they guy is elected. Can we agree that he isn’t going to be able to turn things around immediately? Can we agree that there are changes being discussed? What do you think of the ideas being discussed for changing the approach in Afghanistan? What do you think of negotiating with Iran? Come on. I want your brain, not this bull shit that has been spewed out here in the last days.
    Jim Guglielmino

  • http://counteringpropaganda.blogspot.com Joe The Citizen

    FYI : We know reporters aren’t reporting on some amazing connections and coincidences. We know the media does not usually assume the best. :)

    The Occidental/Columbia years is an example…
    I read Obama’s books, and yes he was there. He is listed in a few phonebooks as well. Says he moved a lot – was living in crappy places.

    What’s curious are the “coincidences”

    A news outlet asked 400 people attending/teaching at that time, none recalled him. None.

    Obama started out sharing digs with a Pakistani illegal alien relative of the 2 Pakistani’s he roomed with at Occidental. (from his book)

    William Ayers was studying 2 blocks away.

    Frank Marshall Davis (Obama’s mentor mentioned in his book) was good friends with William Ayers’ Father. Davis was from Chicago – also a self-identified communist.

    The Weather Underground had their last official event along with the Black Liberation Army – The Brinks Robbery (3 murdered – 1.6 million stolen)
    nearby at the Nanuet Mall, in Nanuet, New YorK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brinks_robbery_(1981)

    Note that one BLA member involved in this robbery/murder was arrested and still in prison Nathaniel Burns (aka Sekou Odinga)

    Yup. Odinga.
    Like Raila Odinga, the radical violent Kenyan sharia-law loving man that Sen. Obama spent 6 days campaigning for.

    Coincidence??

  • Soldier of Christ

    Isn’t he the same guy that Obama said wasn’t fit to wear the black robe? Wall Street Journal quote:
    Mr. Obama took a lower road, replying first that “that’s a good one,” and then adding that “I would not have nominated Clarence Thomas. I don’t think that he, I don’t think that he was a strong enough jurist or legal thinker at the time for that elevation. Setting aside the fact that I profoundly disagree with his interpretation of a lot of the Constitution.” The Democrat added that he also wouldn’t have appointed Antonin Scalia, and perhaps not John Roberts, though he assured the audience that at least they were smart enough for the job.

    So let’s see. By the time he was nominated, Clarence Thomas had worked in the Missouri Attorney General’s office, served as an Assistant Secretary of Education, run the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and sat for a year on the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, the nation’s second most prominent court. Since his “elevation” to the High Court in 1991, he has also shown himself to be a principled and scholarly
    __________________________________________
    Maybe somebody here could send this to Mr. Thomas as he read the “lawsuit”.

  • AM

    Any lawyers in the house?

    I have a question.

    Will Occidental college, Columbia, and Harvard be liable or sued by withholding the information now about Obama’s record if American citizens find that the record indicates Obama being as a foreighn student, which he is unqualiified becoming president of the US?

  • Soldier of Christ

    It was bought and sealed by Hillary Clinton- why don’t you go and ask her for it and ask her while you are at it, how did she get her 20 million debt paid.

  • Soldier of Christ

    Once again, Hillary Clinton has it, just like the API video- 20 million dollars worth of debit disappeared.

  • AnnieCollier

    Three months? Isn’t that what the Camp Obama required? If nothing else (I don’t like to think of Hitler Youth) they’ll be indoctrinated to be his re-election bots and foot soldiers on our dime… What a crook. Let’s hope this can be shot down.

    Fulfill it through National Guard? Then you get to go to Iraq…not be discharged in 3 mos.

  • NetherLands

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15497.html
    Obama likely to escape campaign audit

    Basically, because he raked in so much cash, he doesn’t have to explain where he got it from. Might be legal, but it has nothing to do with justice. To add insult to injury: McCain will be audited & had to sequester abt. 9 million $ to pay for it.

    James, BObo the Dear Leader runs the show now, if he thought other ppl were more qualified than he is he should have let them run for the Presidency.

    Obama Bought The Presidency

  • Grumpy Code Monkey

    Any direct link to that tape (michelle rant) would disappear as soon as posted.

    Even if you posted it here? Are you saying Larry would delete or edit the post showing the link?

    Would you be willing to email a link to me directly? Do that and I’ll post it on my mostly defunct blog that nobody reads, and we’ll see how long it takes before I’m disappeared.

    That’s why I keep encouraging people to go and do deep and wide searching.

    I’ve gone deep and wide, and all I’ve ever found are not very credible third-hand accounts of people who know people who know people who’ve seen it. Blogger A cites Blogger B who cites Blogger C who cites Blogger A again. None of them have actually seen the tape for themselves, but pinky swear that their sources are on the level. Yet the tape itself never surfaces, nor does anyone who’s actually seen it for themselves.

    This is getting into 9/11 truther territory here — “the most convincing evidence of the conspiracy is that there’s no evidence of a conspiracy.”

    It’s time for people to put up or shut up. If the tape hasn’t surfaced by now, then it likely never existed in the first place.

  • AnninCA

    *hehe*

    Tell me about it. I had to divorce one. :)

  • Black Woman who supports Palin

    All I know is that Michelle Obama hates WHITEY. I see it in her eyes. SHE HATES WHITEY!!!!!!!!!

  • AnninCA

    Sorry, but this is one issue I agree with Pelosi on 100%.

    Workplace raids are not productive in this day and age.

    It’s just racism against Latinos.

    Enuf already.

  • AF catfish

    She wasn’t “IN” she was substantive and specific. By niche I mean she had a topic of interest attached to policy, whereas cheeto is just about winning and being against the Clintons.

  • BerlinBerlin

    and now she tries to make her racist ass look like a lady.
    Good luck on that one.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    wow. that is pretty scary. i’ve heard of this before but hearing it come from their own mouths makes it seem like they’re really serious about it. i’m sorry, obama creating his “civilian defense corps” or whatever you want to call it, is just a little too hitleresque. they say it’s only going to be 3-5 months, but gee, wouldn’t it be really easy to just extend that into a full blown draft?

  • BerlinBerlin

    I asked myself the very same question.
    Sure they have covered their asses, but I’d like t know too.

  • AnninCA

    I find anyone with the attitude that either BTD or Jeralyn adopted to be suspicious in terms of free speech.

    I realize that every blog has to moderate to some extent. How it’s handled it very important.

    BTD made a categorical statement that all PUMAS were “STUPID.”

    Jeralyn was more polite, but PUMAS…..not welcome.

    Now, to me? This was immature and pretty tacky.

    I would have completely agreed had the rule been: No more rehashing of the primary, or No Obama bashing.

    However, even before the primary was over, Jeralyn called criticism of Obama playing the race card to be racist. Banned people.

    Now, how in the heck do you really talk openly about this primary without that topic being allowed?

    That is why I called her “progressive” stance suspicious.

    I thought she was a fairly typical liberal, married to how it looked, not to real issues.

    BTW, I originally was super-interested in her area of expertise. I’ve had another obsession here, which coincides.

    Never could get a decent conversation going on the topic.

  • AnninCA

    Of course not.

  • beebop

    are you going to wring your bony hands on each thread????? woe woe woe? where is your concern for the real issues? economy? ACORN? FISA? gee … Larry instead of the Messiah? the irony is delicious. just delicious. petuweey!!!!!!!

  • http://counteringpropaganda.blogspot.com Joe The Citizen

    If you have searched online, then you know what is out there. You can deflect all you want, but some of us are not getting distracted. We keep searching finding and distributing what we find. Posting any info here would be silly. It would be discredited or excused immediately. Better to keep piling and sending the stacks around. Eventually, the truth will come out. Sadly, it will not be via the US media or US law enforcement. That is the level of corruption that seeped in while we were distracted.

    Why are you fixated on that one tape? It’s Michelle and can be easily attributed to a rant from an angry minority – it wouldn’t be taken seriously anyway.

    The REAL story is Barack Obama and his own words and videos and audios and pictures etc.. What HE has been involved in and what he is planning now. He scrubbed as much as he could and silenced many. And still, we found a ton on Rezko, Ayers, Rezko, Dohrn, ACORN, Wright etc.. that he misled on.

    Nothing. Nothing will convince many of you people that there is GOOD reason to be concerned.

    So just wait while we diligently work to get the truth out.

  • AnninCA

    Loophole. It’s the way the laws are written.

  • JM (nomobama)

    BTD is a douche no matter what his beliefs are. He treated, and still treats others disrespectfully when they don’t agree with him. He thinks he is all that, but then again, so does pratically every other blowhard that “runs” a blog. I don’t feel very sorry for BTD because what goes around comes around, and it really doesn’t matter from where it comes.

    What I find amusing though, is the obvious strain that exists in the Obama camp. It’s kind of surprising to see it crop up so quickly, but it is a welcome thing to see. I guess certain Obama supporters must have drank from a less potent kool aid pitcher. Let them all go at it. They deserve each other.

  • oowawa

    Thanks OFraud for providing this video link. Towards the end of this video, Obama is giving a lecture in front of lots of people and he says, very clearly and without stuttering:

    We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we set. We’ve got to have a Civilian Security Force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded . . .

    WTF WTF WTF???????

    Just as powerful and just as well-funded as the US Military???? What is the military budget anyway? This is beyond comprehension. Is this some kind of trick photography? What is the chain of command of the CSF? Obviously, it will be something outside of the military chain-of-command. WHY WHY WHY WHY???

  • Betty Lou

    Well, you keep reminding everybody, though, keeping it on the front burner.

    You don’t get it, do you?

  • oowawa

    a

    re you going to wring your bony hands on each thread????? woe woe woe?

    Famous haiku:

    Poor flies,
    Forever wringing
    Their thin hands.

  • Patti

    WHY WHY WHY WHY???

    NO rules, NO regulations. Punks on a Power Trip…

  • propertius

    This doesn’t establish that he attended college as “a foreign exchange student”. If he held dual nationality, he was still a US citizen, and hence not a “foreign exchange student”.

  • Cat in NJ

    Jorsh … sorry, but it’s time for you to get a life. O stole the election. It’s over. Even if the “Whitey Tape” emerged, the MSM would have ignored it anyway. However, blogs like this must continue to exist to keep the dialogue going about your new leader. Four years come and goes very quickly. Now go cash your Section 8 check, find some nice online video games to occupy your time, and fantasize about actually going out on a date or having friends. Life’s too short, Jorsh. Now shoo, go play somewhere else.

  • mary

    Nellie

    Thanks for info. Obama is the FIRST AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PRESIDENT!

    It’s understood much better viewed in the context of his Kenyan campaign on behalf of his Sharia law murderous cousin ODINGA in ’06! Barry spent $50,000 of taxpayers’ money to support the “Change” and “hope” campaign of his cousin, a slum landlord billionaire who’s milked Kenya dry and whose gangs raped and pillaged the poor country last December (Obama was asked by Condi to write a ‘healing speech’ for the wounds he himself caused!)–leaving 100,000 women homeless and hudnreds other injured with their little girls maimed and crippled by the rapists who were employed via Obama’s money!
    SHAME ON BARACK HUSSEIN!

  • mary

    In my opinion, LARRY J. IS A HERO for letting us evolve into something that will surely grow to bite The Affirmative Action President’s ears in 4 years….

    The Truth shall set you free. Democratic dialogue is flourishing on this site and it’s truly a ‘learning station’ for many of us who have become gravely allergic to the “mainstream Obamyopic Media”…

  • mary

    Typewriterstreaming…

    Hussein is still stealing ideas and policies from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton! And now he wants to appoint Harvard Sexist Larry Summers to the Treasury! Incredible! It wasn’t enough that he hired as Chief of Staff the midfinger-challenged Rahmbo Emanuel, the histrionic diva and ex-ballerina who accidentally sliced off his mid- in the salami slicer in his teenaged years and according to Mother he has yet to recover from his insecurities!…Terrific match for The Affirmative Action Prez Hussein!

  • mary

    BLOWBOT

    WELCOMES
    FIRST
    AFFIRMATIVE
    ACTION
    PREZ
    HUSSEIN!

    HIS MOM JUST
    EVICTED BLOBOT
    FROM THE BASEMENT
    AND PREZ HUSSEIN’S
    BLOGGER CAMPAIGN PAYOLA
    IS KAPUT…
    let the stupid little
    nerd find a home…

  • mary

    Galt’s Pizza Parlor
    Bud White

    THANK YOU!
    We shall overcome the grave affliction of OBAMYOPIA!

  • http://www.cafepress.com/pumapride John House

    Mmmokay, I don’t know much about Markos, so I read the wiki page about him. He was a consultant for Coward Dean in 2003? That explains his hatred for Hillary.

    In a book I read–mind, it was a negatively charged one–it was alleged that Howard Dean despises Hillary because Hillary had helped in “taking him out” of the 2004 race because of the Dean Scream. The author (I forget which book it was, I’ve read at least a dozen books about Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton) went on to say that Hillary wanted him taken out because of her own presidential prospects…that she wanted to run in 2008 and she was afraid that if Dean had gotten in in 2004, she wouldn’t be able to run until at least 2012, and by then she wasn’t sure if the country would have Democrat fatigue or not.

    But that’s just what I read in that one book. It makes more sense to me now, though, if Markos WAS a consultant for Dean…it makes sense why Markos hated/hates Clinton.

    All that aside, BTD was lukewarm about Obama but he also spoke/wrote out of both sides of his mouth on some issues (and he could be insulting about it, too). I left after Jeralyn mainlined the Kool Aid at the convention. She is a hypocrite.

  • http://www.cafepress.com/pumapride John House

    BTD is a douche no matter what his beliefs are. He treated, and still treats others disrespectfully when they don’t agree with him.

    Such is true, very true. In one thread where he was “so obviously offended by John McCain’s racism” (where a lot of us saw none), he talked down to everyone who “didn’t get it”. When I used an example about my girlfriend not getting something, he insulted my girlfriend. He is an a-hole.

  • Pennsylvania Red

    How is it racism to uphold the rule of law?

    My family are legal immigrants, they followed all the rules and conducted their lives according to the laws of their host nation.

    If any one of my realtives had been busted in a workplace enforcement raid, I certainly wouldn’t have called the ICE agents racist. The government agents were just doing their job.

    Pelosi is just throwing a bone to the Hispanics who came out for 0′bannion.

  • steve

    Wow.

    Now I know where disaffected, batshit crazy, moronic, zombiesque, mindless, Dem lemmings gather.

    Back away, back away, back away…..

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