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Who is Barack Obama?

Just to clear up any lingering confusion, I do not hate or dislike Barack Obama. I give him full credit for providing his children with something his mother and father did not–a stable nuclear family. And you can tell by how the girls react around Barack that he is a good father.

Despite his campaign’s misogyny, he appears to adore his daughters and they return the favor. Having been the legal guardian of my niece from the age of 10 until 16, I have some appreciation for what constitutes a healthy father-daughter relationship.

I also have some sympathy for Michelle Obama, who will get to experience the normal battle that ensues between mother and daughter when the puberty fairy shows up. It is tough enough to go through that in the privacy of your own home without having to do it in the full view of the world. We are going to see some cranky moments from Michelle, of that I am sure, but she deserves a pass because it is a normal rite of having a teenager. The good news is she has some time to get ready.

Here is what is so puzzling and, dare I say, troubling about the real Barack. By his own admission in one of his books he sought out Marxist professors and other radicals as his friends. What we do not know is whether or not that reflected a deep seated conviction to the extreme left or was simply a temporary marriage of convenience. We know that he had a longstanding relationship, including a working association, with the unrepentant terrorist William Ayers. We know that Barack’s campaign went to great lengths to tamp down any serious investigation into that relationship. What we do not know is whether or not Barack’s friendship with Ayers reflected a commitment to Ayers’ worldview or was simply a opportunistic hook-up with someone who could help him get ahead politically and economically.

We know that. Barack sat in Jeremiah Wright’s church for almost twenty years and, unless he was deaf or asleep, surely heard and was aware of Wright’s radical black liberation vision of society. What we do not know is whether or not Barack really believed and accepted Wright’s theology as his own theological foundation or simply used Wright to help him build a political base and get ahead.

Judging what Barack has done in the first week since winning the Presidency, it appears that Barack is an old-fashioned, pragmatic political opportunist with no core beliefs other than winning. That does not make him a bad person nor is it unique to a Washington politician. I find it funny that many in the media and hordes of Obama disciples have convinced themselves that this guy embodies mystical, holy qualities that transcend politics. Cut me a break.

We long for a society in which a person is judged by what they do and the integrity with which they do it rather than the color of their skin or their sex. The irony is that Barack is being hailed as the 21st Century messiah simply because of the color of his skin rather than his past actions. Even he admitted he had a thin resume and was not qualified by virtue of accomplishment to be President. But that does not matter anymore, he is the President elect and is on the precipice being saddled with an international economic depression that defies conventional prescriptions and will hinder his ability to pursue his domestic agenda.

What are we to think of Barack Obama, who was a close friend of Rashid Khalidi (who was a spokesman for a PLO entity when it was still considered a terrorist organization) and apparently endorsed anti-Israel sentiments at a going away bash for Khalidi, but then names as his Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, a Jewish American who joined up with the Israeli Army and fought in the first Gulf War. That sends a pretty strong signal that the guy who will control access to the Oval Office has very close ties with Israel. Not the kind of guy you’d expect to sell out Israel to Hamas or Hezbollah.

Then there is the case of his key advisor on intelligence matters. As I wrote at length yesterday, John Brennan was one of the George Tenet protégés who prospered at the CIA when the case to go to war in Iraq was being fabricated. Brennan made the leap from a GS-14 to an SIS 3 (putting that in terms of military rank, he went from a Lt. Colonel to a three star general, i.e. Lt. General) in short order by doing a dandy job of briefing George W. Bush as a PDB briefer. He was one of the guys helping arm George W. Bush with the information used to mislead the Congress and the American people. Brennan was not the only one nor was he the major culprit, but in my opinion he has some blood on his hands.

Brennan, along with Jamie Miscik and John McLaughlin, have secured spots as senior Obama intelligence advisors but were integral to helping Bush build the case for the war in Iraq. It was John McLaughlin who gave the “slam dunk” briefing at the White House in January of 2003.

For all of these reasons count me a skeptic when it comes to anointing Barack Obama as the savior of America. When you reward people who were part of the problem in developing a policy disaster with top jobs you are sending a disturbing message that accountability does not matter. The one change I was hoping to see in a new administration was a movement towards holding policy-makers accountable for their actions. At this stage in the Barack transition I am seeing the wrong signs and the wrong direction. We appear to be getting more of the same from what we have had over the last 8 years.

It is still early and I will give President-elect Obama the benefit of the doubt. But let’s judge him now but what he does rather than what he says. Is that fair?

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    He is in way over his head. And you are being very fair.

    • Dr. Kate

      The big question is, is Barack CIA? How could the intelligence agencies in the United States allow a man like this to ascend? They know surely more than we do.

      There was evidence available of his pattern of associations, his writings, his mentors, his travels, etc long before he ascended to this level. It was never proven here at NQ that these were relationships of convenience, in fact, just the opposite. Convenience? of course. Pattern and harboring same thoughts and feeligns, yes. They are two sides of the coin named Barack. They are well known!

      So really, what gives with intelligence?

    • Dawnelle

      he went from a Lt. Colonel to a three star general,

      Whoaaaa! :-0 how do I get a break like THAT????

      • POdVet

        It’s a 3 step process.
        1 Get down on your knees
        2 Close your eyes
        3 Kiss whatever touches your lips

    • BernieO

      And there’s more…..according to Glen Greenwald Obama wants JOE LIEBERMAN to be Chairman of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee! Good grief. Lieberman worked against him and gets rewarded. How much you want to be Hillary gets shut out now that he no longer needs her.

      http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/11/12/lieberman/index.html

      • athena

        Ya know. I am probably being a lil naive here – so go easy on me, but maybe, just maybe after those National Security briefings (and after soiling his $3000 suit pants) Obama decided that our country really is in grave danger from the outside and all that has been done up to now was and is necessary. I am attributing my thoughts to his rumored placements (which seem Bush IIIish and that new greenish, splotchy hew he now radiates). He does not seem to be nearly as cocky acting either…..

  • btintaos

    Oh, Larry. Fair? Fair is not defrauding your fellow Democratic candidate during the primaries. You’re being too kind.

    • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

      If I was some deity looking over all of this debacle: The presidency is actually a fitting punishment for Baby Opampers. And being first lady is fitting punishment for Angry Michelle. You could not write a better script for a film than this tragic comedy before us. :shock:

      • Ferd Berfle

        The only trouble, Galt, is that we’re the audience and we’ve seen this dog of film constantly for the last eight years.

        • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

          Ferd, I totally dig.

      • tek

        I have no sympathy for Michelle Obama. She wanted this desperately.

        • Northwest rain

          I will enjoy watching her ripped to shreds and she will deserve every bit of it.

          She’s like Phyllis Shafly (sp) who was trying to put women back in their place for decades. She was the ultimate anti-feminist.

          ——

          Anyway — yes who the hell is this illusion called Obama. What are his core beliefs? He has deliberately hung out with radicals for decades — there is no way that he could not at least accept some of their world views. He is a person who NEEDS mentors — he can’t navigate past his nose unless he can follow OR copy someone else. That is who he is at he core — he is an illusionist. He has learned to use mind control tricks — probably by hanging around with his extremist buddies. And yes he has paled around with terrorists —

          So in 4 years a white guy with a good speaking voice runs for the presidency — and his bestest buddies are radical right — the sort that bomb women’s clinics and gay night clubs — would HE be a transformation figure? And ONLY the white folk vote for him — OH yes he is also a misogynist — that little character trait is important for the messiah types.

          Take away Obama’s skin color and he doesn’t have a damned thing going for him. He is untrustworthy.

          Who the hell is he? Whatever he is he will NEVER be my president NEVER EVER. I am so sick to death of these misogynistic males using and then discarding women’s votes and stupid women let it happen again.

          He may like his little girls now — but wait tell they grow up and have opinions of their own. I’ve seen sexists like him — and they are damned mean to their daughters — they like the little girls but when the girls become women they keep trying to control the daughters.

      • final2weeksgone

        Did you notice that USA today yesterday used a different picture on the cover of Michelle than they had on the website? The one on the site was all smiles and the one on the actual cover she looked angry.

        Does anyone know any info on the civilian army Obama has talked about?

        • lark

          Is the list of supporters from the campaign and it will be funded with private funds.

          • onmomnatureside

            That is a very chilling thought.

        • oowawa

          Does anyone know any info on the civilian army Obama has talked about?

          As discussed a couple threads back:
          This is what Obama said speaking before a large crowd, clearly and distinctly, emphasizing each point with hand gestures:

          We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we set. We’ve got to have a Civilian Security Force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded . . .

          Here is the link.

          http://libertyrepublican.multiply.com/journal/item/1232

          Obama’s comments come towards the end. The rest is Rahm trying to explain what will happen.
          Please note that this Civilian Security Force will according to O’s own words be as well funded and as powerful as the US military. WTF?
          What will be the chain-of-command?

          • DAB

            This is a very weird concept. I heard that some Republican Congressman from Georgia (I think) said that there was a danger of Dictatorship under That One and used this Civilian Force as an example of potential Gestapo tactics.

            Of course he was ridiculed and mocked for making such a silly, outrageous statement, but I don’t think that he was that far off — especially after what we have seen during the primaries and the general election campaign.

          • goldengrahme

            The chain of command will begin with the
            UN deploying peacekeepers under the NWO. AKA
            globalists. Welcome to the 21st Century.
            Are you ready for your microchip? Too bad…

      • Cindy

        Galt—Well said. But if this “tragicomedy” is made into a movie, dare I say we’ll need to pull-out our 3-D glasses?

        • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

          I think its bad enough in 2-D. ;)

    • catherine

      I second that!

  • chris

    It is still early and I will give President-elect Obama the benefit of the doubt. But let’s judge him now but what he does rather than what he says. Is that fair?

    More fair than declaring “He is not my president” or “I will never accept his legitimacy as president.” Which some No Quarter regulars be saying.

    An apology is still due from you, however, Mr. Johnson. After seeing the Lee Atwater documentary on “Frontline” last night, it’s ever more evident that you were used as a conduit for an old-fashioned Republican dirty trick.

    • Ferd Berfle

      Put your own house in order before you criticize the condition of those of others.

      • chris

        Don’t get me started on some of the despicable things you’ve written here, Barfly.

        • Ferd Berfle

          Kiss my rectal orifice, bot. This veteran will criticize anyone holding office I please. And if you don’t like it–take a hike, Chester. You and your fellow brownshirts are nothing more than spoiled fratboys who can’t hold their liquor.

          • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

            Glad to see you have not lost your troll emasculator touch, Ferd! :shock:

            • Ferd Berfle

              In the words of the immortal Bugs Bunny, I have not even begun to fight. Hehehehe.

              • Northwest rain

                Keep it up — I love the way you take down the trolls!

      • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

        Ferd, in case you missed:

        Comment by Galt’s Pizza Parlor | 2008-11-12 15:10:46

        The koolaid drinkers importance is only in their own minds. No one ever had a chance against a candidate with the media covering and propagandizing for them. Now that the goal has been achieved all those koolaid drinkers have been thrown under the bus. They are too stoned at the moment to know it.

        -

        Comment by Galt’s Pizza Parlor | 2008-11-12 15:02:40

        This might interest you:

        Comment by Bud White | 2008-11-12 12:53:56

        Hillary won more votes than Obama. Read Dr. Long’s work on how the nomination was stolen. You may learn something.

        http://www.lynettelong.com/CAUCUSFRAUD/

        Comment by Galt’s Pizza Parlor | 2008-11-12 13:31:28

        Bud, its not enough that they “won” the election. Now it is their mission to make us all conform to their group-think. We will never join the OBorg collective! :shock:

        And I second your call to thank Larry and everyone else who keeps the blog going. They have given the remaining dissenters a voice. When dissent disappears so does the republic, for it was dissenters who founded her.

        • Ferd Berfle

          I’m with you. The bots aren’t smart enough to understand that they are expendable. They also don’t understand the depths of their own stupidity. It will become crystal clear in the coming months.

          • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

            ROFLMAO…Well I already ordered my “Don’t Blame Me – I Voted For McCain” bumper sticker today. I thought I was going to have to wait like six months for it to be relevant. But I will immediately place it on my car with pride.

    • AnninCA

      Oh well, you know, everything that goes round comes around.

      I’m pretty ticked that my more liberal friends are so prejudiced against Palin’s religious choice. However, I get it. The moral majority was wicked in the last decade.

      She’s got to find a way to communicate she’s different, if she is, in fact, different. If she’s not, then…..frankly, she’s a footnote in history. Because we’re not going back there, I can see.

      Ditto for my so-called progressive friends. You’ve called Cheney and Bush every name under the sun. It’s laughable to hear you even try to protest that the same degree of anathama is felt about Obama.

      Give it up.

      Ugly gets ugly.

      • xax

        Seriously.

        The hypocrisy is laughable.

    • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

      I will NEVER call Obama “my president” and I will never call him “President Obama” EVER. I will call him Obama. Period. He stole the election. He is not my president, and I am not being petty by sticking to my guns on that one.

      • Ferd Berfle

        I’ve settled for the phrase, “that one”. I will neither call him by his first nor his last name. My disgust with him, his campaign, and his goose-stepping minions have steeled my resolve to never utter that one’s name again.

        • chris

          Next round’s on me, Barfly. You certainly can hold your liquor…

          • Ferd Berfle

            Come back when you’re dry behind the ears and can actually engage in adult discussion, little snip. I’ve caught colds that are tougher than you, troll.

        • DAB

          That One is also what I have been using and will continue to use from now on. I don’t know if McCain uttered it on purpose or by accident, but it sure does fit, doesn’t it….

        • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

          I just say Jackazz.

      • BerlinBerlin

        did anyone call Bush “president Bush”?
        The same people that are going to call this disrespectful did the very same thing 8 years long.

      • Steve1

        Well we really can’t tell what to call this dude??? Barry Soetoro, Barry Dunham, Barack Obama, Little boots? It’s his own fault, release all documents pretaining to his birth-than we can correctly address the phony messiah? So funny, watched a little of CNN, Rev Manning calls it the Cable Negro Network, they had a story regarding the bad press, Mr. Messiah is getting Europe. Funny! CNN, the phony news network!

        • AnninCA

          Rev. Manning has an obvious mental illness.

          It’s sad, but he’s nobody to quote.

          • Steve1

            Annie-that’s your opinion!

          • Northwest rain

            An opinion of a true troll.

          • mommakk

            He tells it like it IS.The cold-hard truth.

      • barry bums a ciggie

        I will NEVER call Obama “my president” and I will never call him “President Obama” EVER.

        Ditto! To me, he will always be that one. Any little respect I even had for the guy is long gone.

    • http://NoQuarterUSA.net Larry Johnson

      Chris,
      Two of my three sources–people who had direct dealing with someone who had seen the video/tape of Michelle–are Democrats who supported Barack. The third person who told me of the same thing–24 hours after the two Democrats–is a Republican. So how is that a Lee Atwater scam. In addition to those three I later heard from two others who told the same story. I’m sorry you don’t like the message but I have nothing to apologize for.

      • chris

        Fair enough, Mr. Johnson. But as a former intelligence professional, one would expect you’d have a better-than-average sniffer for smears and disinformation.

        • Margaret

          Larry does have better than average instincts. And that’s why he didn’t support Obama’s candidacy.

      • AnninCA

        I have no doubt that Michelle pulled that. I also think it would have devastated race relations in the country to release it.

        For once, I think wise heads prevailed.

        I’ve posted endlessly, endlessly about how master’s theses were ALL about our radical ideas. After the thesis was turned in, most of us went right out and became very normal middle-class people more concerned with how to deliver cupcakes to the school while also delivering that report for the boss.

        I’ve seen very few people who have any sympathy for that.

        Her youthful enthusiasm on public forums would never be understood by most people.

        Wright? He was just a minister. Me? I saw Obama called him a mentor. That’s more than a minister. But I think he got by because most people don’t really like their ministers. *haha But the tape of Michelle?

        No way out.

        That would have been too confrontive of his roots for the country.

        And it would have harmed everyone. We’re another generation away from that kind of real liberal thinking.

      • skinny malinky

        So where is that tape? If you heard so, enough to be certain that it was out there, where is it? Did you get played, or did you lie?

        • AnninCA

          skinny, are you stupid?

          The story is simple. Many sources verified that they had seen the tape. Larry never said he had seen the tape.

          The problem with your remark?

          You obviously didn’t really follow the story.

          So why comment?

          • Ferd Berfle

            He’s a bot; he’s programmed to comment.

          • Sean

            “Many sources verified that they had seen the tape.”
            Who?

            • AnninCA

              As anonymous as those who commented on Sarah’s wardrobe.

              GOTCHA!

              • skinny malinky

                Okay, so then he got played. It’s one of the two. The fact that he would report such an incendiary rumor as fact has to be pretty embarrassing, I would think, especially when nothing at all came of it. But hey, some people don’t want credibility, I guess, so they throw it away.

                • AnninCA

                  Is MSM embarassed over the wardrobe or Trig rumor?

                  Nope.

                  Sorry, this is a media problem that Larry doesn’t have a corner on.

                  I would HOPE, HOPE, that he’ll be far more careful in the future about anonymous sources.

                  Will the MSN?

                  No way. They are still getting by with it.

                  Bloggers don’t have the backing of past reputations.

                  But…..make no mistake…….the mainstream media is no different, and that reputation leaked out big-time this election.

                  There will come a day when there is an alternative real press. On that day….they will tank.

                  Don’t buy stock.

        • Betty Lou

          So where is that tape? If you heard so, enough to be certain that it was out there, where is it? Did you get played, or did you lie?
          ———-
          Truthfully, every time you bring this up, I get the impression you have no idea what you’re talking about, you are in way over your head, your use of a simplistic tactic indicative you you aren’t familiar with the basics of the reaction troll you’re trying to use as bait, aren’t familiar with how it can hurt your candidates chances at a successful presidency.

          Cheney and Bush failed using Atwater type tactics, are in fact, it would seem, in a lot of trouble, having used them to hide flawed, corrupt policy.

          Why do you expect Obama to succeed where they failed?

          And I haven’t seen that answer, yet.

          Isn’t it better to have 5 or 10 highly skilled, intelligent people, as opposed to an army of simplistic morons with minimal skills?

        • Steve1

          Skinny-since you’re asking questions! Answer mind! Where is Barry Soetoro’s original BC? Where? I don’t want to hear the governor of Hawaii vouch for it, I don’t want to see a COLB, I want Mr. Soetoro to pruduce his original BC? What’ the problema? What is he scared of?????????

          • skinny malinky

            I can’t speak to that, I never claimed to have seen it, nor did I claim that well placed sources had told me they’d seen it. But go on, keep trying to defend your leader. Obviously he’s a good one, he did help prevent Obama from being elected.

            Oh wait, another fact getting in the way of what you want. Sorry!

            • Steve1

              skinny…figured you wouldn’t answer..neith does your phony messiah! Does not address the issues, so sad he played you and you fell for it!

        • btintaos

          Skinny, tape, tape, tape. I don’t need a tape to confirm my suspicions about Michelle and Barack.

          But it would be fun to see. Oh, well. I guess we’ll have to wait until October, 2012.

          Bu the way, Skinny, just because it hasn’t been released doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. It could mean that the McCain campaign knew the Obama campaign would counter with something (the “gook” comment, for example) if they released it and just decided to pass.

    • catherine

      Nobody here owes Nobama an apology. He outright STOLE the nomination from Hillary…an infinitely better candidate! As well as engaged in race-baiting.

      If you think Larry or any REAL Clinton supporters are going to “apologize” to Obama, pull up a chair and something to read…like all the Encyclopedia Britannica tomes. It’s gonna be a loooong wait.

      • Northwest rain

        Don’t forget that THAT ONE used sexism in his campaign — he started it early and used sexism often.

        He never once apologized to the women of the world and Hillary and Sarah for his deliberate insults.

        I was behind a huge SUV with a damned sign in the window — “woman for Obama” — that put me in a very nasty mood. STEPhERD WIVES — sort of like Mrs. THAT ONE.

    • JEva

      Chris,
      Let’s see. You can form an opinion of Mr Johnson based on a documentary on Atwater yet citizens are not able allowed to judge or voice their concerns for Obama? Is Obama’s past and the campaign off limits to discuss even though they may indications how he will lead this nation? At what juncture in Obama’s administration will people be “allowed” to speak out? Obama and his supporters tell Americans it will take at least two terms to see a sign of any noticeable change.

      People are nervous because of the state of the economy and the country is engage in two wars. We are concerned about the future. We have elected a very young president with no substantial leadership experience to judge his ability to succeed. His promises are fluid and they are subject to change based on his perspective of the circumstances. Voters who did not support Obama have a right to speak out if they are worried.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Who is that one?

    A pathetic, pre-packaged, polyethylene panderer poised to place plutocrats on the payroll.

    Yep

    • xax

      NICE!!!

      • oowawa

        Yep–Spiro Agnew would have loved that one.

        • JustMe

          and he wasn’t satisfied with the sexism against Hillary & Sarah then he had to throw it out in front of the world to Nancy Regan….

          No wonder he’s so popular with the leaders in Europe he showed his true colors on a worldwide scale…

          at a guess there is more to come.

  • AnninCA

    Thank you!

    Association discussions are now moot. Those are only valuable when you don’t have a real record of someone’s achievements.

    Alas, this was a year when Hillary’s real achievements and McCain, then Palin’s, were too boring for the mainstream press to even work into their articles.

    It was all Entertainment Tonight level-writing. Even on the opposite side, most articles were bereft of much more than partisan rhetoric.

    Which is weird to me, since I think this was a very non-partisan year.

    But, in any case, yes, let’s watch his actions.

    This week, I’m laughing. He’s rolling out a very classic corporate PR strategic management change model. How do I know? I devised many of them in my day. *haha

    What always amazed me is that people bought it.

    The real issues were always the real issues, and the “committees” examining “committees” never once produced a single problem that wasn’t already known full well by everyone in the business……

    BUT…….it still worked.

    What I’m seeing is exactly what I saw in a failing industry back in my day. You pretend to be doing work to convince everyone you’re doing work.

    Fact is? The industry was dying. Really, the committees overseeing committees was a bit like putting rouge on the corpse, hoping you can get someone to marry her before they notice it’s cold.

    So yes, let’s see.

  • SFIndiePUMA

    I think it’s also fair to judge him by what he did to get to where he is. Are we to forgive all that? The racism, sexism, misogyny, lies, secrecy, voter registration fraud, voter fraud, illegal donations, intimidation? I give The Pretender the benefit of nothing. Barack Obama has already shown me who he is and I, for one, admit to disliking him. Intensely.

    • Ferd Berfle

      I find him disgusting beyond measure.

      • chris

        Gonna be a long eight years for you, won’t it, Barfly? Way to marginalize yourself from the public discussion.

        Take a lesson from Mr. Johnson and push the reset button. The campaign is over. The hard work of solving America’s problems has just begun.

        • Ferd Berfle

          If you were full-grown, little boy/girl, your words might have some import. As it is, they reek of adolescent hubris.

          • chris

            At least they don’t reek of Wild Turkey.

            :-D

            • Ferd Berfle

              If I was to partake in that, which I don’t as I prefer Tanqueray, it is still better than that Arkansas wagon varnish MD-2020 you drink. Next.

              • Steve1

                Fred, today’s youth are into DRUGS….they are in drug heaven, Nirvana! The Kool-aid is big for them, too!

              • DAB

                Ferd — you could collect all of your Bot putdowns and publish them in book form. You are a master of the art!

                • Northwest rain

                  I’ve just started to collect his best put downs in OneNote — a neat Microsoft program.

                  • chris

                    “One Note”… that sums up Mr. Barfly, all right.

    • AnninCA

      Oh, it just was election tactics. It’s no worse than some of the past sins of politicians to win.

      Let it go.

      • chris

        Indeed, Ann. Lee Atwater of the G.H.W. Bush campaign spread the lie that Kitty Dukakis onced burned an American flag… and that Michael Dukakis had a history of mental illness.

        Is that a reason to consider Bush I’s presidency illegitimate?

        • Betty Lou

          I consider Bush’s presidency “illegitimate” because of failed, flawed policy, for starters.

          The country is in genuine trouble, and Obama is NOT prepared to handle it, unprepared to create and craft groundbreaking, (maybe) risky policy, unprepared to lead.

          I think he’s looking for pork, thinking Daley.

          I don’t think of him as an improvement, in fact, he has to be the least prepared, least able person to assume the presidency in American history.

          As someone earlier said, the Presidency is in actuality a punishment, I don’t think you understand.

          Good thing is, he does have SOME talent by his side.

          Cheney and Bush, didn’t, their own choice, though.

        • Northwest rain

          Oh look — the trolls are talking to each other.

          An — you are a nut.

          What THAT ONE did was WORSE then I have ever seen — but since you are a troll — of course you would tell us to get over it.

          NO — WE SHOULD NEVER get over the sexism — because it will get much much worse.

          You are so damned ignorant.

      • SFIndiePUMA

        To “let it go” would be to condone that behavior. I don’t care whether it’s been done before or by whom, I won’t “let it go”. If I do, if I accept it as okay to use racism, sexism, misogyny, lies, fraud, intimidation, than how can I ever be a part of changing that type of “election tactics”.

        I will not be silenced.

        I will not let it go.

        • AnninCA

          Awwww……surrender to win.

          Get into positive action.

          • Betty Lou

            I’m sorry, I don’t understand your answer, can you explain?

            Positive action?

            • Northwest rain

              The troll wants us to worship THE ONE.

              That is her/his sole reason for being here.

              If we accept the sexism as just “normal” campaigning — then it will be WORSE the next time.

              AS as been pointed out by others — and we need to continue to pound home that message.

              WE will not tolerate disrespect of women any longer. We do not want Bud White’s daughter to grow up in world dripped with hatred and disrespect for women.

  • FenelonSpoke

    I don’t think having no core beliefs aside from a need to win makes someone a good person. He may be a good father; I haven’t seen much that much, if anything, that makes him a good human being. Narcissists enjpoy their kids as long as they are not too much of a challenge and adore them uncritically. Do I hate Obama? No, but I don’t like him. His actions have given me no reason to.

    • DAB

      I agree with the Father thing. Some of the worst tyrants and Mafia Dons were “good fathers” so it means little in the wider scheme of things.

  • Winston

    Governor Plain unleashed.

    Sarah is kicking ass and taking names. She is being interviewed by every one on earth. She is scoring points left and right. What a freaking machine she is.

    No one gives a crap what Oblabla is doing. Its all Palin 24/7.

    There is no stopping her. She has taken the world stage by storm.

    • AnninCA

      Is she saying anything new?

      I really am not a Greta fan. She doesn’t strike me as a good TV personality. Just my opinion….

      But what I did pay attention to was that Sarah’s answers aren’t changing.

      I’d whisper into her ear…..don’t repeat. Now’s a great time to try out different ways to send the same message. See which one clicks.

      When you’re in a campaign, frankly, you have to repeat. That’s the drill.

      But now? Now is the time to play around with what really communicates best.

      • AF catfish

        I love Greta, great delivery, great style and personality. She is her own woman.

        • AnninCA

          Then you’re my yang to my yin. LOL*

          I think she’s really quite ill-suited for TV.

          • xax

            Hmmm. Never thought about that. I do like her interviewing skills. She’s very personable and relaxed.

            Non vulture-like.

            • AnninCA

              She doesn’t articulate properly. OK, OK…..I’m a TV snob.

              I don’t like the vulture style, either.

              I do like it when they can actually talk.

              • Ashy1

                Neither does Brokaw, but he seems to be able to hold down a job.

      • Winston

        Yes. She is on fire. Called Obama out on his promise for bipartisanship. She said that she would work with him even though his is friends with a domestic terrorist.

        Read the comment at HotAir. Sarah is on a media blitz in enemy territory.

        http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/12/palin-im-ready-to-help-obama-even-though-he-is-in-fact-friendly-with-a-domestic-terrorist/

      • chris

        Gov. Palin’s real problem is… she has become the object of ridicule at the grassroots level. Go to YouTube and search for “Palin spoof.” There are at least 100 of ‘em… professional comedians and amateur smart-alecks… little girls and guys in drag… all making fun of Sarah Palin’s look and her style of speech and her personal narrative.

        I don’t know how a politician can overcome that.

        • AnninCA

          Could be.

          But I happen to agree with Sarah that this is really up to a higher power.

          Life and politics always holds surprises for all of us.

        • Winston

          Anyway, in this interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, she talks about her preparedness to help Barack Obama, even though he is friends with a domestic terrorist

          http://www.puma08.com/2008/11/12/palin-im-ready-to-help-barack-obama-even-though-a-domestic-terrorist-is-one-of-his-friends/

        • Steve1

          chris go to ytube an watch the 100s of videos on Barry Soetoro, gay, birth certificate, broken promises, Rev Wirght, Larry Sinclair, Frank Marshall Davis, Typical white person, flip flops, it goes on!

          • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

            Horse wearing truth blinders will only go on its merry way.

            • Ferd Berfle

              Yep–and the lead donkey in a suit is still a jackass.

          • chris

            I’m talking about mocking imitations of the person, Steve. Not many people imitating Obama online… a few, but not many.

            Sarah Palin, however, is the most mocked (and mockable) national candidate since Ross Perot.

            • Steve1

              Why, because corporate controlled media is not playing them! People are scared they will be labeled racists, personally attacked by the OBOTS>>>Chris give me a break!

              • chris

                I’m talking about YouTube, bro. Please try to follow along. Corporate control is not an issue. I’m talking amateurs.

                This is a grassroots phenomenon. Don’t take my word for it. Go to YouTube, seach for “Palin spoof,” and there are tons.

                • Steve1

                  Yes, dude, like You Tube is fair and balanced..they are in the tank big-time for Barry Soetoro-follow the money!

                  • Steve1

                    You tube, Soetoro vids, tons of them, Obama w/o his teleprompter! The messiah!

            • Andrew P

              There would be much more mocking of Obama if he was white.

              Much less of Governor Palin if she was black.

              That is the bottom line, Chris.

        • xax

          Politicians always get made fun of. It’s part of the job. The test is do you let it get to you. I don’t think she’s let it get to her. She’s pulling interviews left and right, so she’s obviously determined.

          The reality is that she has very strong support, despite any misconceptions. It’s not impossible to improve an image. She has a strong, likeable personality and is relatable, which helps.

          • JustMe

            she can laugh at them LOL

            That one sends in the truth squad to get them

            Big difference there

  • Andy

    I miss the Brennan post: what would John Brennan’s position be in BO’s administration??

    • Andy

      miss —–> missed

  • Mercedes

    Yes, let’s look at his actions. He and his campaign stole the primary. He stole it. It was not opportunism; it was fraud. He is an illegitimate President-elect. He is a criminal as far as I am concerned. Perhaps that puts him in the company of a long line of politicians, but it doesn’t make it right.

    There is still a question whether he qualifies under the US Constitution as President. Shall we quit pretending that the Constitution means anything?

    Obama is an abomination…just as Bush is and just as Cheney is.

    • Grrrr

      Yeah, and so are Dean, Pelosi, Brazile right along with ‘em.

      • Ferd Berfle

        The party is infested with vermin. Nothing short of razing the place will effect a cure for it.

  • AF catfish

    He is my president, I hope he does well, but his associations are not moot nor will I give him the benefit of the doubt.

    He’s starting with a thin resume of Rezko corruption and misogyny and homophobia. Other than that he’s a blank slate.

    • Ferd Berfle

      I will only give that one credit for being the future person occupying the White House. He is no substitute for a real President and I respect the Office too much to think about that one in any other fashion than as a care-taker. That’s my opinion and I’m sticking to it.

  • Andy

    2005 Cheney Energy Bill
    Confirmantion of Gen. Casey
    Voting against capping the predatory interest rates charged by CC at 30%
    Voted for FISA
    Chooses Brennan as advisor

    Progressive Democrats ?? MIA —-? Faux progressives…
    Their silence on these issues is deafening.

    And I can still add: opting out of public financing (gasp!); bashing teachers w/Ayres and Co. ( teachers unions: hello?), etc etc.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    I don’t hate Obama but I dislike him and his campaign immensely. I think he is a class A narcissist. I don’t take any stock in how he treats his children in public because it’s all too common for families to put on a good face in the world only to have a dark underbelly once at home.

    We’ll see how he does, but my main concern is that wit Axelrod one of his advisers, he will try to use propaganda to brainwash people into agreeing with whatever it is he does while in office.

    • AnninCA

      I must admit, any psychological label makes no sense to me.

      You cannot diagnose a pathology from a public campaign.

      Heck, many professionals can’t diagnose a pathology privately, even after years of experience.

      So I don’t get that label.

      I would say I’ve seen his ego-sensitivity. He’s prickly. How he will handle this when world leaders stick it to him will be interesting to watch.

      I hope he’s not the usual reactive type.

      • Northwest rain

        Again the troll — yes you can diagnose psychopathology — Nixon is one example, Bush another example and THE ONE —

        Nixon and THE ONE have similar personalities and major flaws.

        Gotta do what you can to change the discussion and protect your messiah.

    • chris

      Wow. That would be a first.

  • johninca

    I’m praying that Obama turns pro-life and conservative– what better revenge could there be?

    • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

      A BORN-AGAIN OBAMA! That would be awesome!

      • Ferd Berfle

        I think re-hatched is a better term.

      • lark

        Billy Graham announced last week he is out of the Presidential advise business. So born again Obama is out of the question. I think Graham must be racist, to quit at this time.

  • Dorando

    Attacking Rashid Khalidi is the height of intellectual dishonesty. Hell, I wasn’t in the CIA, but I can at least read books by Khalidi, watch his speeches and look into things like McCain’s committee giving Khalidi’s foundation 500 grand. Don’t lie on here like this. I would hope you’re better than that.

  • Clara Barton

    He doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt from me. It’s been clear for many months what kind of person he is and that he’ll be viscious to anyone if he needs to get ahead. I don’t like him even a tiny little bit and I don’t trust what he does. He’s a flim flam man.

    • Ferd Berfle

      He’s a flim flam man.

      That he is as well as a carpet bagger. Apparently a lot of voters didn’t see the wool he was about to pull over their eyes. I do hope the reaction in 4 years hence is not another extreme shift. This bumpy roller-coaster ride is getting old.

      • Steve1

        Smoke and Mirrors…the MSM played a major role for not reporting or at least investigating this fraud.

        • Ferd Berfle

          As they did with Bush. Apparently centrist candidates of any party are to be taken down by the MSM. To what end, other than lining their own useless pockets, is beyond me.

  • Carla

    Did Palin cost McCain the election?

    Vote CNN POLL Help Sarah

    http://tinyurl.com/l2t0

    • Winston

      The very question is absurd.

      CNN is just dying to pin the loss on Palin. McCain would have gotten blown-out were it not for Governor Palin.

      Why don’t they have a poll:
      Did Obama crash the economy?
      Or did Obama steal the election?
      Or Did Obama play the race-card?

      • AnninCA

        The fact that CNN can’t just admit: it was the crash.

        People freaked, ran to the opposite party, which is so obvious means that CNN is trying to wring out a personality story where none exists.

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    May his daughters grow up and enter the workforce with a boss just like their daddy the Enabling sexist pig. That would be poetic justice.

    By then they might even have an expression named after him. They “Baracked” her.

    • Ferd Berfle

      True…sad, but true.

    • La Compania Volante

      Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-11-12 19:07:53

      May his daughters grow up and enter the workforce with a boss just like their daddy the Enabling sexist pig. That would be poetic justice.

      Sorry, UW, but I wouldn’t wish that on any innocent child, not even The One’s daughters–or maybe especially not them. Considering how cold their parents are, they’re going to need all the help they can get.

      By then they might even have an expression named after him. They “Baracked” her.

      Sounds like an appropriate term.

    • catherine

      And may their father AND mother live to see it and remember what they did to Hillary and her supporters.

      • McHope

        Not sure why anyone wants to delve into the realm of Obama’s parenting, as all parents are human and imperfect. It is inarguably much harder when it is done in the public eye. No disrespect intended, but here are some thoughts based on publicly known actions.

        To give credit as a being a good father when he has committed so much fraud, perpetuated so many lies, held women in such disregard and has been involved in legal wrongdoings seems a little misplaced.
        Add to the personal misgivings, the fact that the children were brought in an ongoing basis to a church in which they heard hate filled anti white, anti American sermons, that they are not allowed Christmas gifts (by parents who claim to celebrate Christ), that they were also used as propaganda (when most politicians try desperately to shield their children from the media), and that they have witnessed the way in which their Great Grandmother’s passing was observed, or not observed.

        Teaching your children the values of morality by action and not just by word is a measure of successful parenting. Doing what is right even if it means you don’t get what you want- that’s a lesson the Obama girls won’t soon learn.

        But a hug between them delivered to every living room via television will suffice, I guess.

        We all love our children and Barack Obama will have a direct affect on all of their futures. This is more than a political obligation, it is a moral one as well. For that reason, love and adoration is not enough; leading by example has to count, too.

  • xander

    Who’s barack obama? that’s easy. He’s the good looking african american man that that WHOOPED Mccain and Palin’s ASS!!!!

    • Ferd Berfle

      He’s the good looking african american man that that WHOOPED Mccain and Palin’s ASS!!!!

      Such is the reasoning behind every bot analysis. It’s the style, stupid. Forget the content and substance. Appearances are all that matters.

    • Winston

      Who’s barack obama? that’s easy. He’s the goofy looking affirmative action acorn American man-child who kissed WHOOPI’s ASS!!!!

      • Ferd Berfle

        LMAO. Touche, Winston.

      • catherine

        Hahahahaha

    • catherine

      He’s the empty suit you won’t admit to having voted for less than year from now.

  • mel

    when u cheat at the start of a race, the entire race is a cheat!

    • Northwest rain

      BINGO!!

  • Texas Playwright

    You are very generous, Larry. BO does have a record–of lying, cheating, voter registration fraud, election fraud, suppression of free speech, intimidation of voters and voices, campaign finance fraud, violation of the Logan Act. He is a DNC/MSM/big money puppet with no core values and no common sense. The USA is bankrupt and this fraud wants to tax people, bail out fiscally unsound entities and control the media.

    No leeway from me.

  • http://mybluecountry.googlepages.com/whattheobamademocratsaresayingposter Linda

    Great post.

    Problem, I always go by ones actions, so therefore seeing O-shit’s lack of action and integrity, but playing pandering politics, showing his vote was always for sale, gave me the reason to distrust and not want him, let alone the entire lack of experience and having poor judgement.

    I believe he aligned himself with that group because those were common threads AND he knew that was a good place to get started politically.

    He ALWAYS was a compromised individual. He believed he could sell his vote for his donors to make them happy, if he through some bones to the people.

    I believe Barack Obama Inc, the making of a Washington Machine, by Harpers, back in Oct 2006, was a pretty good piece on him.

    And that was another thing. He has worked hard to create this politician. He copied Bill Clinton and admired his gift for speak.

    http://www.harpers.org/archive/2006/11/0081275

    Obama may have thrown some of those Communist/radical/socialist ideals to the side, because he knew big donors wouldn’t support that and he was to hungry just for the power, but I think he will be paying back those folks, like he does his special interests and Socialism we will be, taxed to death to pay for the big businesses and welfare. …jmho

  • JG

    Here’s teh Politico, FOR THE FIRST TIME, outlining the massive Chicago PR operation run by Axelrod. Too bad they waited until after the election.

    “If David Axelrod decides to join the Obama White House, he’ll have to do more than move to Washington. He’ll also have to take an enormous pay cut and possibly reveal the extent of his lucrative corporate public relations work.

    The Obama campaign advisor’s firms have collected more than $35 million since 1998 for all manner of political consulting and lobbying work, including more than $2.5 million from Obama’s presidential campaign alone, according to a Politico analysis of local, state and federal campaign and lobbying records compiled in part with the assistance of New York Public Interest Research Group (NYPIRG).”

  • EightBelles

    At the beginning of the Democratic primaries, I viewed the ultimate outcome as a win-win proposition be it Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama at the top of the ticket. I even considered John Edwards to be a viable option. Was I in for a rude awakening!

    As posted on NQ earlier, I was a supporter of Barack Obama until his “past” caught up with him. After Rev Wright, I switched to Sen Clinton’s side. And even after the nomination was, for all practical purposes, stolen from HRC, I wanted to find a plausible reason to return to the Obama camp. That never happened. That’s because at this stage I had already lost track of all the unsavory types BO counted amongst his friends and advisors.

    Flash forward to today, and I still have no idea who the heck Barack Obama is. He does appear to be a devoted dad and caring spouse. I’ve always felt that it couldn’t have been easy for Barack Obama, as a bi-racial child and teen, being raised by white grandparents no matter how loving these GPs were. Likewise I’m sure Michelle Obama went through unique struggles of her own in having a dad who was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis.

    That being said, I neither trust Mr. Obama or the DNC. We Dems were hoodwinked, bamboozled by our own party. Even worse, the Democratic Party has proven itself to be a backward place for politically savvy women like Hillary Clinton who hold aspirations for higher office. For all these reasons, I’m ashamed to call myself a Democrat.

    • Don

      I was in somewhat the same situation; i.e., ashamed to call myself a Democrat. However, I did something about it. Following the DNC rules committee debacle (being kind using this term) I became an Independent and vowed that this election I would vote a straight Republican ticket. First time I have voted for a Republican candidate for POTUS since I began voting in 1964. And, I must admit that casting that Republican vote actually felt good. (I did a lot of research on individual candidates and have to admit that because of my vow to vote straight Republican this election cycle, I did not vote for a couple of candidates that would have certainly been better for, in this case our state. But I do not feel badly about not voting for them as they were not to be heard from when the DNC was pulling off its shenigans; i.e., silence indicated condoning of the activity. In future elections, if I am still around, I will vote for the individual candidates unless we are again unlucky enough to be treated to more fraudulent election activities.

      As an Independent I no longer need feel that I should vote for the Democratic candidate and the better benefit, is that I no longer feel obligated to support the party since I am no longer part of it.

      Go ahead, EightBelles, try it, I think you will like it. Might take a little more work in deciding which candidate is better for the country, or state, or county, or whatever, but I think you will find it is a much more satisfied feeling studying the individual candidates and voting because of what you have learned about him/her than voting for a candidate because the party says so!

  • linad

    Basically more of the same,and to think that’s what his slogan was against McCain. In the primaries he would say that the last 20 years were more of the same and bad for the country,that included the Clinton years but now he’s hiring president Clinton’s old staff. One thing for sure is that he’s a liar and they all lie but he takes the cake. He’s lied to his supporters but hey he reads a good speech on the teleprompter.

  • noproblama

    Yeah, we’re not talking about the cost of and who paid for his suits or whether he really thinks there are 57 states, either.

    I’m sorry, but a white (or female) candidate would have been, politically, seriously harmed by any one of those examples.

  • csam

    The more I watched him on the national scene, his personality and behavior reminds me of George Bush II – arrogant, childish and easily-controlled.

    Yet, the more I read about his intentions for his administration, I fear he will govern like Carter did when he had his Democratic Congress. We are in for disaster on the economic and national security front.

    2010 cannot come quick enough when the Republicans will be ushered in to a sigh of relief.

    • AnninCA

      I would guess I’m in the minority.

      Bush matured.

      • Ferd Berfle

        Bush matured.

        But at great expense to others. He was never Presidential material and neither is his successor.

        • AnninCA

          I agree. He did damage while thinking he had good intentions.

          I think he truly believes in expansion of executive powers.

          I frankly am not entirely sure I don’t agree, except, Guantanomo disputes that theoretical ideal.

          So I agree.

          We have an imperfect system.

          I do agree with the Obamanuts that his high-flown rhetoric was a “call” to people to remember principles and feel again.

          His tactics, however, completely dampened his message for me.

          And I’m one who insists….line it up.

          So I think he’s a corporate strategist.

          So far, this week, I’m dead-eye right.

          His transition roll-out is a classic corporate strategy.

          And, btw, it was always BS.

          • Ferd Berfle

            Agreed. That one is another wholly-owned subsidiary of international corporations. The bots don’t see it because their minds have been clouded by the false advertising same corporations are known for.

            • AnninCA

              Ferd……we’re yin-yin on this.

              This is truly a corporate global marriage. *haha

              PS…..I’m fairly sure, it’s headed for divorce.

      • lark

        Seven years to mature. 2 over the norm. That is 40 percent beyond normal. Only this last year has he grown up to a presidential caliber. And then he made quite a few blunders all on his own with this financial debacle. He is the reason things are the way they are right now.

        • AnninCA

          Tell me more.

          I agree, btw.

          The last year….he’s really been a president.

          I am not ready to fling all the blame on him.

          He’s corporate.

          So is Obama, I think. We’ll see if I’m right.

          I think Obama will be corporate because he’s so naive about how it works. It will be too shiny for him to resist.

          Bush……..he got that from the start.

          • Andrew P

            I think that it was actually Obama who began to open my eyes about George W. Bush. By and large he has been a disaster for the country. But I’ve come around to appreciate that he has acted out of concern for the US. Obama’s concern is only for himself. For the first time in my life I believe the American people have elected a fundamentally bad person to the presidency. My concern is that once he actually gains power he will refuse to give it up.

  • randall the computer guy

    rofl at good looking and whoooping ass, he’s not in the least bit attractive and it took over 2 years and 700 million+ just to eek out a single percentage win. Who is he? hell, nobody knows, with no true birth certificate, medical records, past history, I guess he’s just some product on the shelf that everyone voted for because they were sooooo pissed at Bush they had to have “change”, he’ll never be my president and I have no respect for him at all, why should I? he’s done nothing spectacular other than raising an insane amount of money and buying the presidency with it, is that worthy of my respect? nope. Maybe he’s an okay guy, but where’s the proof of that? So far all I’ve seen is he is all about himself, he’s a “me” candidate so it makes sense he won because sadly, it seems our country is full of more “me first” types these days then “We first”.

    • Northwest rain

      Who is the one?

      He is a fragile male who needs “help”.

      Well I for one will never “help” the one.

      Look up fragile male syndrome — one of the markers is BIG EARS.

  • BerlinBerlin

    Found that comment over at Citizen Wells.
    by “an observer”

    The Thomas Becket Effect

    Because of one of Thomas’s (Obama’s) father’s (Grandfather Stanley) friends, Richer de L’Aigle (Frank Davis), Thomas learned to ride a horse, hunt, behave like a gentleman, and engage in popular sports such as jousting. Beginning when he was 10, Becket received an excellent education in civil and canon law at Merton Priory in England (the esteemed Punahou Academy), and then overseas at Paris, Bologna, and Auxerre. (Obama’s Columbia-Harvard-Chicago road was paved by very wealthy and powerful people).

    Due to his zeal and efficiency he was recommended to King Henry II when the important office of Lord Chancellor was vacant. As Chancellor, Becket enforced the king’s traditional medieval land tax that was exacted from all landowners, including churches and bishoprics. This created both a hardship and a resentment of Becket among the English Churchmen. (Rezko’s tenant buildings had no heat). To further implicate Becket as a secular man, he became an accomplished and extravagant courtier and a cheerful companion to the king’s pleasures. (Here Larry, have another snort!) Thomas was devoted to Henry’s interests with such a firm and yet diplomatic thoroughness that scarcely anyone doubted his allegiance to (George Soros’ bosses) English (financial) royalty.

    However, Becket, when saddled with the responsibility of the Archbishop of Canterbury, rose to the demands placed on him and rejected his past controllers. This is what his minions claim is going to happen. I actually HOPE so!

    But, King Henry had his knights assassinate Thomas. And, if Obama rises above his background, his handlers, his financial backers, his puppet-masters, he will most likely be martyred because he would still be of some use to them that way. They’ll unleash some Manchurian candidate (that they’ve made watch Taxi 500 times) that’s stashed away some where for just such an occasion. It will be someone that the media will label as a n*&^%r hate’n KKK type so that it will all look believable. The resulting unmanageable chaos would still be to their advantage. (See Burn! -Italian title: Queimada- is a 1969 film starring Marlon Brando)

    Then, the only remaining question will be: will he be canonized?

    • BerlinBerlin

      who is King Henry?

  • Krunk

    My name is Krunk. I thought evil thoughts and soiled myself. Is that why I voted for Obama?

  • The Robot

    Barack is everything he portrayed of Hillary Clinton – unscrupulous, race-baiting, opportunistic, and dishonest.

    Barack has a slew of leftists and anti-Zionists as what one may guess, are now former associates.

    Who is Barack? Beyond these facts, I too have virtually no idea.

  • Margaret

    Larry, thanks for another excellent post and for continuing to provide a forum for us dissenters, Americans who believe in free thought and free speech have a haven here. You do a great service for America by providing it.

    You are much more generous to Obama than I would be but as always I appreciate your analysis.

  • Tuppence411

    Someone mentioned Lee Atwater up thread. I caught just a portion of the PBS program last night (switched off to watch Sarah on Greta). But from what I did see- WOW! What a ruthless little sh!t. No wonder the hard core right were so frustrated with John McCain. Since Atwater and Rove, they are use to winning by spilling blood all over the floor. And McCain wouldn’t go there, even though Barky had legitimate targets painted on his back. ( No need to make up a fake story about drunk Kitty burning a flag or a black, out-of-wedlock child.)

    No wonder they were foaming at the mouth.

  • Not Buyin It

    Sorry, I don’t think a “good father” would take his kids to Rev. Wright’s church.

  • oowawa

    I find it funny that many in the media and hordes of Obama disciples have convinced themselves that this guy embodies mystical, holy qualities that transcend politics.

    I do not find it funny “ha-ha,” and I do not find it funny “peculiar.” I find it horrifying. This, more than anything else, is what makes him very dangerous: it’s like Jim Jones’ folks gone national. I personally know dedicated obots who would literally drink the Kool-Aid, if asked by the Ineffable One. And they wouldn’t mind serving some to my family, and would even give us a hand in drinking it besides.

    • Ferd Berfle

      You’re spot on. The followers of that one are not rational. They remind me of the bushbots from 2000. Same insanity, different political persuasion. They are all extremists at their core and are incapable of compromise, even to their own political demise. So the country lurches from one extreme to another in a single election. I am hoping one day that the public will tire of such irresponsibility, pandering, and outright lying perpetrated by political parties and politicians and actually fire the entire lot of them.

    • Tuppence411

      That’s another thing. Jim Jones is all over the freakin TV. CNN with a Soledad special. MSNBC had a documentary. NOW? Now you are reminding people of Jim Jones? After the election of a cult figure complete with kool-aid drinking zombies? Thanks alot MSM. Great freakin’ timing there.

      • Steve1

        the evil empire’s media, strikes again! TG for the internet.

  • Coppergirl

    I understand the idea of giving the One his own rope, so to speak. I just think we should acknowledge this for the political strategy that is is, rather painfully searching for something more personal, more human, within him that does not exist.

  • hadenough

    obama = tactical politian

    Hopeful signs on health care

    But now Max Baucus — Max Baucus! — is leading the charge on a health care plan that, at least at first read, is more like Hillary Clinton’s than Barack Obama’s; that is, it looks like an attempt at full universality. (The word I hear, by the way, is that Obama’s opposition to mandates was tactical politics, not conviction — so he may well be prepared to do the right thing now that the election is won.)
    krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/12/hopeful-signs-on-health-care/

    According to Krugman obama will do whatever obama has to do for obama. That’s what obama did during the primaries. Krugman him called out “for poisoning the well for health care reform” by copying the gop’s Harry and Louise ad:
    Obama does Harry and Louise, again
    The Obama campaign sends out an ugly mailer. Sorry, but this is just destructive — like the Obama plan, the Clinton plan offers subsidies to lower-income families. And BO himself has conceded that he might have to penalize people who don’t buy insurance until they need care. So this is just poisoning the well for health care reform. The politics of hope, indeed.
    krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/01/obama-does-harry-and-louise-again/

    Also I’m not as hopeful as Krugman. Should things get tough with health care reform, and we know they will, will barry throw health care reform under the bus like during the primaires and do what he has to to save his own skin? Eightball says yes.

    • lark

      yeap, you betcha.

  • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

    Tonight’s specials:

    The Baby Opampers: Thin crust (like his skin) pizza with pablum (like his trolls have been lapping up).

    The Angry Michelle: Deep (resentment) dish pizza with Reverend Wright toppings of roast garlic nose, government invented HIV virus and black (liberation theology) olives.

    • Ferd Berfle

      LMAO. How about Praline Prevarication Pastry for desert.

    • McHope

      Ha Ha LMAO :)

      • JustMe

        LOL Galt I would choke on those

        Maybe I could pass tonight…

  • Linda C.

    Obama is for Obama. I being a socialist will get him ahead, then he is a socialist until it is better for him to be something else. He plays other people with any given situation.

    I am not sure what to expect. I am already aware of the myth making. Obama is going to create the illusion of Ronald Reagan by following his play book. One never could say anything bad about Reagan as he spent this government to near oblivion, a homeless crisis, AIDS crisis, Iran Contra Voodoo economics that benefited the rich. People suffered under Reagan, but people still pray to him.

  • lark

    But let’s judge him now but what he does rather than what he says. Is that fair?

    I don’t think is fair. Is it fair to judge a pathological liar for what he does rather than what he says? Lets see. First a pathological liar lies about the past, the present and what he will do in the future. Then you loose sight of him and allow him to do whatever is that a pathological liar does with their days. Then when they come back and you listen to them again, what have they done? Most of them have done something that allows them to blame someone else for the outcome. Pathological liar usually end up blaming others for outcomes. Never admit that their skewed view of reality has anything to do with any kind of failures.

    So, the Obama administration will be a continuous blaming others for every fail outcome.

    Lets see, today Sec. Paulsen reneged on purchasing the failed assets from banks and other financial credit institutions. He said it was not a good idea because bla bla bla.

    But I remember during the discussion days prior and post McCain’s campaign suspension that Obama claimed he was on the phone with Paulsen getting info and giving him advise.

    Now it was a bad idea.

    • AnninCA

      Just be skeptical.

      Turn down the thermostat.

      Whatever our political system fails in doing, I think we all agree, it beats the heck out of 99% of the other systems out there in life.

      So I do respect Obama as president-elect. He is the product of our highly flawed but vigorous system.

      • Ferd Berfle

        He is the product of our highly flawed but vigorous system.

        We’re about to vigorously work ourselves into second-world status. A little lethargy now and again might not be a bad thing. We only need to get the ship of state off the reef on the far right–not steer it full-steam into the iceberg on the far left.

        • AnninCA

          *nodding*

      • hadenough

        So I do respect Obama as president-elect.

        Seems to me all Larry is saying is hold obama accountable for things he does:
        But let’s judge him now but what he does rather than what he says.

        Does your “respect” include giving obama a pass when it comes to holding him accountable?

        • AnninCA

          You know, no president is perfect. No president fixes all problems.

          Much of what we face, truly is, the result of bad policies from 8 years of Bush.

          Let’s give the Democrats a shot.

          I’m never going to be a Democrat again. That’s how deeply they offended me. It’s personal. It’s quite real.

          However, I haven’t abandoned my principles.

          I will support anyone who supports those principles, regardless of their political label.

          I simply am not a proponent of partisan thinking anymore.

          I AM a big support of principles.

          So let’s see what Obama does to support real principles.

          • hadenough

            So you yes your respect includes a free pass. If that works for you fine. For myself, this is my country, my future and obama works for me. I’m gonna hold him accountable.

          • Ferd Berfle

            I’m never going to be a Democrat again. That’s how deeply they offended me. It’s personal. It’s quite real.

            However, I haven’t abandoned my principles.

            I will support anyone who supports those principles, regardless of their political label.

            I simply am not a proponent of partisan thinking anymore.

            I AM a big support of principles.

            So let’s see what Obama does to support real principles.

            My 32 years as a Democrat are done, as well. I can only hope that I am wrong about that one. I do hope he succeeds, not in advancing the Democratic Party or himself but in restoring our Representative Republic. On the other hand, I will not hold my breath waiting for him to realize it or for it to come about on its own. I will remain active and alert and write my elected representatives often. At least I am in a firmly Republican area where my voice might actually be heard.

      • Don

        Not about to turn down the thermostat. Obama said something in that regard early on about how we needed to turn down our thermostats to help garner the respect of foreign countries (not in his words but somewhat the same meaning).

        Think there is a big difference between turning down the thermostat in respect to the character of the man and that of the institution of the presidency. Who knows, maybe Obama will lead us in such a manner that we will be able to experience first hand some of what that other 99% are experiencing.

        Certainly agree with you concerning our highly flawed system; especially as seen in these past three elections.

      • Northwest rain

        YOU AN IN CA RESPECT — That ONE?

        Troll — I rest my case.

  • catherine

    He’s a one termer at best. I suspect Obama will go the way of Nixon (his real twin…not JFK) in disgrace.

  • FreeWoman

    His children like him? You all despise Bush whose children love him to death, for more than a decade longer and into adulthood.

    When Obama shows me he is a conventional Democrat, I’ll exhale. Until then he’s a mystery who has too many associations with American hating, Marxists.

  • Patience

    In response to Dorando 19:06:24 re: Rashid Khalidi -

    It’s one thing for McCain’s committee to hire
    Prof. Khalidi to perform Palestinian opinion polls.

    IT’S QUITE ANOTHER THING to participate in an social event honoring him where Israel-bashing and anti-Semitism was a running theme.

    There’s something very wrong with anyone who finds moral equivalency between the two.

  • Steve1

    Can you imagine 2012, winning ticket. Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin, wow, that would be something!

    • Don

      Would be great but won’t happen. Sure is nice to dream though isn’t it?

    • chris

      Been done, Steve. It was called “Kate & Allie.”

  • TeakWoodKite

    Is it fair? mmmm.

    Ok, in order to ask that I would have to know what is the cost of personal redemption for BO and how many lost lives will it take to achieve.

    To be willing suspend, and give the benefit of a doubt to BO…is not going to happen. I do not respect him on moral grounds, regarding the consistant indifference; born from a lazy mind or true malice, only time will tell.

    So yeah, Mr. Johnson, it sucks having POTUS in the “looser” column right out of the box. I did not put him there but will stay informed as well as the quality of open source info will allow for.

    Do I understand that it is the office of POTUS that needs flexibility to traverse they rock shoals? Yes.

    I think for me (and thanks for the question) it is in the end not about fair but has justice been served. This President Lincoln understood like the lines on his face.

    When BO screws up we call him on it. When the manchild acts like an adult and chooses wisely, I support him; while not inferring I would agree with it. It will be enough to know intelligent deliberation and diligence were done.

    Frankly, as far as MO goes? Same as BO – none of this goes beyond the front door of there private lives. That much I can afford.

    • TeakWoodKite

      their private lives.

  • Tristan

    I do not plan to adopt any Obama Derangement Symptoms and will simply watch and wait.

    If he tries to implement any of those dangerous foreign policy or economic reforms that he trumpeted during the primaries, I’ll be the first on the soapbox to tell everyone that he’s taking this country to ruin.

    If instead he realizes that this is country has no interest in returning to the welfare state and that islamic fundamentalism and rogue states have to be defended against and that American industry and energy matters, then I will applaud the about face and laugh at the koskids who expected him to be a socialist and pacifist messiah.

    I did not vote for him and do not think he is qualified, and I definitely think that Dean and Brazile stole the nomination from Hilary and gave it to him and in no way am I giving him the benefit of the doubt. But it is too soon at this point to know whether Americans elected a far-left socialist and racist nut or a more moderate Democrat who will dustbin the worst of his ridiculous campaign promises to special interest groups and try to govern from the center. Even though I have no evidence to assume he will do the latter, I can still hope he will change. (Hope & Change.)

  • Patience

    For my sanity and health, I can’t allow myself to go on being angry and disgusted about the outcome of Nov. 4, although it’s admittedly difficult. The degree of corruption, intellectual dishonesty and hypocrisy we witnessed in this election is hard to swallow.

    Nevertheless, it’s because of the very examples Larry’s cited that I’m not worried (YET) that there’s going to be a wholesale about-face and march to the far far left. There are just too many tired old hands becoming part of the Obama administration to think that anything other than a status quo similar to the last 8 years is going to unfold. Time will tell.

    Still, I look forward to the day when the honeymoon’s over and the media hold Obama to the same standards they’d apply to a white person. Call me racist but I regard his election as a victory for affirmative action. For the media and many of his followers, it was all about electing the first black president. I think McCain would’ve made a difference. Obama just seems like more of the same.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Ok. I aam back after stepping out to look at the full moon and if BO smacks Pelosi and Ried upside the proverbial head, that would be a start.

  • LilRod

    If it was not about knowledge
    If it was not about good judgment
    If it was not about a consistent history of backing and defending issues

    What is left?

    The fabricated image..and the matter of electing a man of color

    This is why everyone should be concerned. No matter the plethora of advisors surrounding him;..it will be his final word that will count..and he has almost nothing to draw upon for making the right decision.

    MLK’s dream gone wrong

  • elliewyatt

    Larry, you speak of caring for your niece from age 10-16. An important time in a young person’s life. No doubt you worked to teach certain values… truth, judgement, etc.

    Obama’s mentor from age 10-18 was a subversive communist, someone who deliberately fostered racial division, a perverted pornographer, illegal drug user who drank with a minor. (Let alone “Gramps” taking him to hooker bars as a child)

    Frank Davis was a communist who rejected our system of government and moral norms of our society. But he was mentor to Obama during his teen years.

    Immediately, Obama sought Marxist teachers at Occidental. Socialist lectures at Columbia. The majority of his friends today seem to be socialists, communists or criminals.

    You spent YEARS trying to raise your niece with proper values so that she would become a whole and healthy adult. Obama’s mentor was a sick, perverted individual who opposed our system and rejected the most ordinary norms.

    Why do we work so hard to teach our kids honesty, values, judgement? So that they will become fine, heathy adults.

    Obama was mentored to reject law and government and standard morals.

    I’d rather have your niece, sight unseen, as president than the slime known as ’0′.

  • robert

    Funny, you seemed so sure of all these things during the election.

  • Mr. X

    Obama used the same tactic as Bush. If you’ve never actually done anything, you can’t get blamed for it. This made it impossible to pin anything on Obama. Biden was right. Obama is clean, experience-wise. Nothing there.

  • Crippled Burbank Widow

    Just to clear up any lingering confusion, I do not hate or dislike Barack Obama.

    Jesus Fucking Christ, you can’t just say it away, Larry. You have a long and damning posting history which argues the contrary, including the instant one you’ve prefaced with this hilariously whiny and self-exculpatory disclaimer.

    Face it: your claim to fame on the ‘net, what you will be remembered for more than anything else, is that you were so eager to buy dirt about Obama that you swallowed hook, line and sinker and then posted the allegations fed to you about the “whitey” tape.

    Ya tool. :-)

    It will take years to recover your credibility and integrity. For god’s sake, start the recovery now.

    I’m speaking as a friend here– quit being a dope.

  • noproblama

    Just to clear up any lingering confusion, I do hate or dislike Barack Obama.

  • Crippled Burbank Widow

    noproblama writes Just to clear up any lingering confusion, I do hate or dislike Barack Obama.

    Without specifying the reason for the hatred, or feeling any need to specify the reason for such hatred.

    • imustprotest

      Wait! Let me look up in my, “See if I care what Crippled Burbank Widow Thinks” manual…..NOPE, right on page one, it says it right there in plain english….I don’t care what CBW thinks. Sorry, I gotta go by the rulz…my momma taught me to play by the rolz.

    • Galt’s Pizza Parlor

      Its an a priori truth not requiring a reason.

      • Crippled Burbank Widow

        Galt’s Pizza Parlor writes: Its an a priori truth not requiring a reason.

        i.e., like any bigotry.

        • imustprotest

          LOL “crippled” is calling other people bigots. STFU

    • noproblama

      It was meant to be funny, but on the other hand hmmm, let me count the ways…

      No but really, did you happen to see the video of that AA woman crying at Obama’s acceptance speech?

      When asked why she was crying, she said because now she won’t have to worry about putting gas in her car or food on the table, Obama will take care of her.

      Gullible? Maybe, but I bet she’s not the only one taken in and I find it despicable that his campaign would so use people’s lives for their self-serving power grab.

      Yeah, I hate it.

      • socalannie

        Crippled Burbank Woman is probably a 20 year old guy, sitting in a dorm in an expensive school being paid for by his parents. Her/his/its opinions are worth bothering about, since it didn’t bother “specifying the reason for the hatred” and profanity in its own posts.

      • socalannie

        Crippled Burbank Woman is probably a 20 year old guy, sitting in a dorm in an expensive school being paid for by his parents. Her/his/its opinions are not worth bothering about, since it didn’t bother “specifying the reason for the hatred” and profanity in its own posts.

  • jimbob

    He has no core values except what is politically expedient. That says it all. God help us. On the other hand, he has done us Republicans a good turn. We will now be able to flush out all the Bushies, McBushes, go-alongers, get-alongers, open-borders Republicans, Europe-worshippers, me-too socialists, etc etc etc … in other words, the Obama-messiah has made it safe for us to be conservatives again. So, liberals, enjoy your 4 year party at the expense of the American taxpayer, but remember: pay-backs are hell. You Reagan Democrats might think about joining us on a permanent basis. We are not, contrary to Keith– the worst journalist in the world– Olbermann’s view, all religious crackpots. In fact, I don’t even know any devoutly religious Republicans, unles you are counting those of us for whom capitialism, free enterprise, and the love of country and family are paramount values.

  • MMS

    He seems to be attracted to a personality type rather than a particular polical agenda with these guys. Has anyone thought of the Indonesia-Africa angle and how that background might affect that attraction? These are hardly democratic countries to provide him with good models.

  • westexan

    A United States Marine is considered a Marine only after 12 weeks of boot camp and indoctrinations. Obama Begins his indoctrination and training from childhood under his communist mentor Frank Davis and continued that training and indoctrination under 20 years of Rev Jeremiah Wright who is now a genuine confirmed Socialist with Communist tendencies. 12 weeks is required to become a US Marine, what does that say for a politician who has been indoctrinated and trained for 49 years for a specific ideology called socialism or communism?