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Breaking: Speaker Boehner’s PowerPoint Presentation

D.C. reporters are referencing a PowerPoint presentation by Speaker John Boehner that explains and illustrates the deal. I hunted around, visited Boehner’s House site, checked the WaPo, but found 7 pages of PowerPoint slides in “Boehner Outlines Debt Agreement” at the NY Times blog, The Caucus:


From the way that Bret Baier referred to the Boehner PowerPoint slide presentation, I got the impression that there are more slides than we can see at the NYTimes. Please share if you run across any.

Thanks to Jrterrier (!), I was able to check the PowerPoint presentation posted at Real Clear Politics, and the above 7 slides are indeed the full presentation.

  • Anonymous

    Fox finds the tax hikes:
    http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=87534

  • Anonymous
    • Anonymous

      we are greased

      and ready to slip and slide into the abyss

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Celebrate with BO:
    (From a post at MOTUS)

  • Anonymous
    • Anonymous

      If its good Obama did it…If its bad the Republicans did it.
      I have a feeling that when the truth behind Obama care get out there the Dems will start blaming the Republicans for it.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Bronwyn,
    Thank you for this post. 
    I wouls like all the regular commenters here to think about just never, never responding to nqisfun, atrue_obot, the Guest who supports nqisfun, etc.  If you just ignore them, since we all know where they are working (WH basement?), please, please just ignore them.  I come to read your comments and the articles written by the regular writers.  I have taken an oath to myself to save myself time, stress, and to keep my blood pressure o.k. never to respond to these gnats. 

    • Anonymous

      I wouls like all the regular commenters here to think about just never, never responding to nqisfun, atrue_obot, the Guest who supports nqisfun, etc. If you just ignore them, since we all know where they are working (WH basement?), please, please just ignore them.

      ——————————————————————————-

      TOTALLY AGREE, Diana – it’s the ONLY way to defeat
      them – I have seen it work over and over again in other
      blogs.  Thank you for bringing it up.

      • Frenchnail

        I read back in the campaign days these trolls were paid by the number of answers their comments triggered. Since them, I never engaged them.

  • Wbboe

    Years ago I was involved in a billion dollar merger and deal heat was present.  We had a number of labor agreements which expired at or near the time the deal was to close.  The CEO came to me and said I do not care about terms you negotiate, all I want is a headline.  That is equally true of the Boehner deal.  The headlines you see above are not descriptive of what what this bill will do for the country. Rather, they are merely Republican talking points for 2012.  The highest priority for this nation, regardless of party, is to send Obama back to Chicago or Hawaii where he belongs.  The second highest is to reform the Republican Party so it is responsive to the American People rather than the elites.  The democratic party which had potential when Hillary was running, is now beyond hope.  It is not the party of the people, and it is racist to the core.  We have seen that with our own two eyes beginning in South Carolina.  The people of this country are hurting and the party of Obama has done more to destroy jobs than any single force since the Great Depression and the Republican elites have sat idly by while they did so.  This negotiation was an attempt to find a solution.  Instead they found only a deal.  As Marge noted, we shall wait to hear from Donald, assuming he can get a microphone.  The only reason he may not is because the Washington elites love this deal because it does for them all they are really interested in–preserves their power and protects their lifestyle.  When those are you goals, the interests of the country are secondary or tertiary as they are for them–starting with big media.

    • Wbboe

      When I say the party of Obama is racist to the core I am not kidding.  The evidence is clear cogent and convincing.  It first reared its ugly head in South Carolina where it was used to attack Hillary whose administration had done great things for the blacks, and by the end of the primary black party members were threatening to primary her in her in her next senate race.  The origin of this is well documented in a scholarly article called Race Man by Professor Sean Wiltentz.  It was evident in Michelle’s comments about white people both in the tapes, and in the manner in which she treated one of the white democratic donors.  The whitey tapes are real and I know for a fact that the campaign was concerned that they may have constituted a hate crime, and sought legal advice on that issue.  And of course we saw them play the race card from the bottom of the deck in the 2010 elections against white Americans in general and the Tea Party in particular via Obama surrogates Tim Kaine and Chris Van Hollen.  It intimidated a lot of ignorant white people and it fed into their guilt complex.  I doubt it will be as effective however in 2012.  But you can see how this cancer has metastasized within the party thanks to Obama.

  • Wbboe

    Well . . .  it does not look any better this morning than it did last night.  It was a deal . . . not a solution.  And if the opening bell was any indication, then financial markets were as Jack Benny used to say underwhelmed for the same reason.  Apart from the failure to address the spending landslide in any meaningful way, the failure to take a sound the obituary for Obama care, and the failure to require a balanced budget amendment (when you are spending your way into oblivion what honest thinking representative of the people–as opposed to the banks would blanch at that? oh that’s right I said honest–I withdraw the question).  If the freshmen woke up this morning feeling like they got raped, someone needs to tell them it was a nightmare, but it was not a dream.  I see the left is throwing their own hissy fit over this which is no reason we should be happy.  And that could lead someone to conclude it must be good because they don’t like it, or as observers of the arbitration process have said a decision that makes both sides unhappy is often a good decision.  Well not here.  A decision which benefits the elites at the expense of our country, a decision based on a bill written by Reid staffers and presented by the so called Republican speaker of the House which hands the nations piggy bank over once again to the banks via this committee is ipso facto not a good decision.  The coup de gras in all this however perhaps you noticed in Michael Hammond’s article who was general counsel for the senate for eleven years. wherein he recounts how the scumbags at msnbc attacked Steve King who favors a balanced budget and at the highest pitch of that attack interview asked him if he thought Tim Geitner–a confessed tax cheat, and who warns us that life as we know it will cease to exist unless we make a deal before August 2 is a liar.  Mike wondered out loud–is this a trick question?

    • Frenchnail

      NB: coup de grace

  • Anonymous

    Stock Market rises then sinks on manufacturing index loss:
    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/july-ism-manufacturing-index-slumps-to-509-2011-08-01

    No manufacturing , no jobs…..

    • William L. Donlon

      The Market being down makes the Debt Deal a Harder Sell in Congress.

      “It’s never over until it’s over.

      Democracy in action

      “It’s the worst form of Government — After all others”.
             Churchill I think — If he didn’t say it — he should have.

      • Anonymous

        “The Market being down makes the Debt Deal a Harder Sell in Congress.”

        I’m not sure this is true.  I’m someone who believes the market has been under constant manipulation throughout this “bull market” that took off after the collapse in March 2009.  Could this sudden market reversal today just be yet another manipulation–warning the  House what is in store if the administration does not get its way….

  • Anonymous

    British banking company HSBC said Monday it will cut 30,000 jobs
    worldwide by 2013 and sell almost half its bank branches in the U.S.,
    part of a new strategy to cut back on retail operations in some parts of
    the world and focus instead on fast-growing emerging markets.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/08/hsbc-to-cut-30000-jobs-sell-half-us-branches/

  • Anonymous

    I would like to thank the Speaker for at least putting the bill on line ASAP.
    Are you paying attention Nancy ?

  • Frenchnail

    I just woke up and listening to the news and the spin and I want to say it again: I HATE ALMOST ALL OF THEM. 

    I have decided to do exactly what they do: I am going to treat them as irrelevant as they treat me. I do not want to hear ANYTHING this Congress has to say. I just want them out. OUT OF CONGRESS, OUT OF MY TV, OUT OF MY LIFE.

    And one more thing: I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR THE WORD COMMITTEE EVER AGAIN.

  • Anonymous

    DOES THIS MAKE SENSE TO ANYBODY???

    Why does anyone accept the premise that it take a decade to cut spending by $1 Trillion but
    only two years to increase spending by $9 Trillion????

    • Anonymous

      Well, I guess it’s a “the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak” kinda thing.  They always “want” to do things, but when it comes down to it, they just never have the guts to do what it takes.

  • Wbboe

    Besides Erickson, there is only one guy I know in politics who is never wrong and will never lie to you .  And, he does a remarkable job of cutting through the Republican spin you see above.  If you have ever been in this kind of situation, then you know that you are playing to multiple audiences with divergent interests.  In this case you are playing to financial markets, trading partners, the American People and the 2012 election.  Through poor negotiation skills and limited imagination, John and Mitch  have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory and left the American People holding the bag. Boehners power point analysis above is chock full of glittering generalities, false assumptions and fails to disclose the pitfalls–which is why we need to listen closely to Mike  Hammond who is the truth teller here. 
    ——————————
    The Liar, The Witch, And The Wardrobe:  Five Lies About The Debt Limit:  Five Lies Told Over The Weekend By A Fraud, A Harpy and An Empty Suit:

    Posted by Michael Hammond (Profile)

    Sunday, July 31st at 5:51PM EDT

    The final straw for me was a syndicated columnist who, today,
    compared conservatives’ opposition to John Boehner’s debt limit proposal
    to the murder (“fragging”) of American officers by their own troops in
    Vietnam.
    As it turns out, most of my ROTC class missed Vietnam by a year. But
    we spent four years enduring the physical assaults and (actual) spit of
    the “Barack Obamas” of our generation, plus the prospect of being
    assigned to some of the most dangerous jobs in the world and the reports
    of our fellow lieutenants who died when their own troops rolled
    grenades under the bunks.
    We were surely far from perfect. But I didn’t deserve to have
    students try to rip the uniform of the United States off my body. Our
    contemporaries, whatever their flaws, didn’t deserve to be murdered. And
    I don’t deserve, now, to have our fears treated with gleeful scorn by a
    woman whose greatest sacrifice for this country, I’m guessing, was
    breaking her heel on the way to the protest rally.

    LIE #1: THE BOEHNER PLAN CONTAINS “NO NEW TAXES”
    This was untrue with respect to Boehner 3.0 -– the version which
    passed the House –- and it’s untrue with respect to Boehner 7.0 –- the
    new “compromise” which emerged Sunday afternoon.
    The potential tax increase resulting from Boehner (or the
    “compromise” which has emerged as a result of passing Boehner) will
    certainly be enormous and unfilibusterable, even though it is
    deliberately concealed from us now.
    It will be hatched by a 7-man majority of a 12-man commission which
    will consist of six Pelosi/Reid Democrats and one frightened Republican.
    (Reid and Pelosi will not call it a “commission” for the same reason
    Satan doesn’t like the word “sin.”)
    The commission will be prodded into action by a “trigger” –- probably
    across-the-board cuts which slash Medicare and defense in ways which
    won’t conceivably be allowed to go into effect.
    The big tax increase will be unveiled using all the shibboleths
    (“millionaires and billionaires,” private jets, etc.). And, under the
    rules, Jim DeMint and Rand Paul will not be able to filibuster or amend
    it. The Jeff Flakes will, by that point, realize the folly they allowed
    to go forward. But their votes won’t be needed. In that hour, the
    Democrats will provide the needed votes.
    And the only real alternative to a tax increase? Repealing the
    mechanism and raising the debt limit for a second tranche without any
    deficit reduction.
    So, the message to Boehner-supporting House conservatives? Suckers!!!
    In the words of former Reid aide Jim Manley, “With Reid and McConnell
    at the helm, they can still outsmart the newer members.” Manley was
    echoed by insipid “empty suit” columnist Dana Milbank, who pilloried
    conservative lawmakers for praying before their vote. And, not to be
    outdone, New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd called for a return to
    witchcraft in order to solve the debt limit crisis. Seriously. No,
    really, I’m not making this stuff up.
    Now, I’m not totally opposed to tax hikes. I have no problem imposing
    a 100%-of-assets “hypocrite tax” on General Electric, which managed to
    avoid paying taxes on its $14 billion in earnings, while (at that time)
    funding calls for massive tax increases “on the wealthy” on MSNBC.
    I have no problem pushing legislation repealing Obama’s tax increases
    on the middle class, which, depending on how you “score” the ObamaCare
    mandate, total at least hundreds of billions of dollars, and possibly
    trillions.
    I also have no problem taking away the “private jet” of Barack Obama,
    who, in the months to come, will use Air Force One to fly from one
    Democratic fundraiser to another. And I bet, after the first time little
    Sasha gets groped at the airport, TSA procedures will become a lot more
    “freedom-friendly.”
    Oh, and one final footnote: There is zero point zero zero zero
    percent chance that the six Pelosi/Reid people will kiss away the
    Medicare issue as a campaign “diamond” by agreeing to significant cuts
    in that.
    LIE #2: BOEHNER CONTAINS “SIGNIFICANT SPENDING CUTS”
    Out-year discretionary cuts aren’t worth the paper they’re written on.
    Boehner 3.0 and Boehner 7.0 both have about a trillion dollars of
    them, enforced by Gramm-Rudman-type “sequestration.” But even John
    McCain now publicly admits that that process became worthless because of
    the ability of Congress to get around it by declaring “emergencies.”
    If the debt climbs as fast as it did in the ten years after Gramm-Rudman was passed, it will be $39 trillion by 2021.
    LIE #3: BOEHNER 7.0 WILL PROMISE “ACTION ON [OUR] BELOVED [SIC] BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT”
    There will be two loopholes: The mandate will apparently be ambiguous
    about the version of the balanced budget amendment to be considered –-
    leaving open a proposal allowing the courts to raise taxes, which we
    will be forced to fight. And the mandate will not actually require that
    the BBA be passed and sent to the states.
    LIE #4: WE “HAD VICTORY IN [OUR] HANDS,” BUT COULDN’T TAKE “YES” FOR AN ANSWER
    See above.
    LIE #5: WE ARE ON THE VERGE OF “DEFAULT” ON OUR DEBT
    After listening for six months while our “tax fraud” Secretary of the
    Treasury whined about “default, default, default,” even the most stupid
    among us (see, e.g., MSNBC, the New York Times, etc.) now sometimes
    concede that the issue is not default to our bondholders, but rather a
    partial shutdown of the government.
    (This hasn’t saved us from the spectacle of Congressman Steve King
    being grilled on MSNBC concerning whether he thought IRS-defrauding
    Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner was a “liar.” I mean, seriously, is that
    a trick question?)
    But the bottom line is that this is the same government that’s been
    smuggling guns to Mexican drug cartels, funds 324,000 abortions a year
    (while lying about it), and is currently trying to outlaw right-to-work
    states in its pursuit of the Boeing case. And, frankly, it may be that
    we need a little less of that.
    But I do have one final plea: While a Fox “talking head” is
    explaining how government payments will be prioritized, could you drop
    the subscript which says something to the order of “DEFAULT LOOMS!!!”?
    by Michael E. Hammond, former General Counsel Senate Steering Committee 1978-89.

    Sponsored Content

    • Anonymous

      This is the first time in my recollection that the debt ceiling even garnered national attention.  Including the 3 times it has already been raised under Obama, and several (8?) times under Bush.  But, Obama wanted a clean debt ceiling increase again, but Boehner and the Tea Party got spending cuts instead.  Granted, they are nothing more than reductions in the proposed increase in spending, but sans Boehner and the Tea Party, it would have passed without a hitch. 

      • nqisfun

        And taxes will go up when the Bush tax cuts expire in 2012. Two can play this game.

        Sybilll lets hope you never need to use Medicare or other government services.

      • Anonymous

        Nice comment, Sybilll. Yes, the freshman congress did a great job of slowing the ramrod railroad from wiping out small towns under the cover of darkness.

    • Anonymous
  • Frenchnail

    I just hate them all, with the exception of few TP newbies.  I cannot wait to vote every of them out. They have proved one thing and one thing only: they still think they can fool us hence they are even more stupid and dangerous than we thought. With a bunch like that it is going to take decades to recover.

    PS: I cannot wait to hear the Donald’s comments on this deal!

  • Anonymous

    Karl Denninger just posted his “power point” critique of “The Deal” under the heading “Republican Mainstream Self-Destructs”:

    http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=191122

  • Anonymous

    Here, for your enjoyment, is video of Durbin’s d’oh comment:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ifvp5P7U5AU

    • Wbboe

      I love you PS.  I cannot wait either.  It deserves all the rebuke and condemnation he can muster.  From inside the beltway, on a strictly partisan basis it is a republican victory.  The world saw Obama thrown out of the bus by the leaders of both parties, only to be brought in at the end to claim what for him is a Pyrrhic victory and caused his base to question his bona fides.  (I could give a fuck what they think–assuming they ever do.).  But it was a bad deal for the American People, and by bad I really mean really bad.  Unless you have faith in committees to whom the people’s representatives have punted the ball.   We need to cut government and slay this spending dragon now–not ten years from now, and this deal merely perpetuates it.  In the fulsomeness of time, you will find that this deal merely accelerates the current trend which are harmful to the middle class and the American People. It will not satisfy Moodys.   It is no exaggeration nor is it demagoguery to say that the people in Washington are like a giant leech sucking the blood out of the American People.

      • Anonymous

        “unless you have faith in committees”

        committees=bureaucratic barricades to prevent anything from getting done

        commissions=more of the same

  • Guest

    Conservatives need to admit that they don’t yet have enough political power to get just what they want.  Dealing with the debt crisis and budget deficits and Obamacare and other issues is a war that will have many battles.This debt ceiling debate has become a distraction and if it continues, it could damage the TP and conservative causes. Declare partial victory and prepare for the next significant fights. The most important task is to elect more conservatives and to defeat Obama in 2012.

  • Guest

    Conservatives need to admit that they don’t yet have enough political power to get just what they want.  Dealing with the debt crisis and budget deficits and Obamacare and other issues is a war that will have many battles.This debt ceiling debate has become a distraction and if it continues, it could damage the TP and conservative causes. Declare partial victory and prepare for the next significant fights. The most important task is to elect more conservatives and to defeat Obama in 2012.

  • Jrterrier

    here’s the link from real clear.  all pages open:

    http://www.speaker.gov/UploadedFiles/3-7-31-11-Debt-Framework-Boehner.pdf

  • Jrterrier

    here’s the link from real clear.  all pages open:

    http://www.speaker.gov/UploadedFiles/3-7-31-11-Debt-Framework-Boehner.pdf

    • Anonymous

      Thanks to you, I was able to confirm that the 7 slides are the full presentation, and I updated the last paragraph to reflect your contribution. — Bronwyn

      • Anonymous

        Gee whiz–how come Boehner couldn’t just say “We have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it.”  Worked great for Pelosi when the Dems controlled the House….

        • Anonymous

          Boehner gives explanations because his brain isn’t addled by botox and hopium.

          Good thing he backed off on the suntans, though.   ;-)

          • Anonymous

            Maybe he has that disease that JFK had that makes his skin that color .

            • Anonymous

              Addison’s Disease:
              Meanwhile, during JFK’s first term in office, the root
              of his constant illness was finally
              discovered. He fell ill on
              a trip to England in the fall of 1948, and while the press was
              told that this was a recurrence of his war-time malaria, JFK had
              in fact been diagnosed with Addison’s Disease. This incurable
              ailment was often fatal (one doctor predicted in 1948 that JFK
              had only a year to live), since it involved an impairment of the
              adrenal glands, and a weakening of the immune system. Treatment
              with cortisone injections improved JFK’s health, enabling him to
              gain weight and improve his skin color, but for the rest of his
              political career (and life) his health was fragile. JFK and his
              family worked hard to keep his Addison’s Disease a secret, aware
              that public knowledge of such a condition would probably torpedo
              his chances of political advancement.

            • Anonymous

              Addison’s Disease:
              Meanwhile, during JFK’s first term in office, the root
              of his constant illness was finally
              discovered. He fell ill on
              a trip to England in the fall of 1948, and while the press was
              told that this was a recurrence of his war-time malaria, JFK had
              in fact been diagnosed with Addison’s Disease. This incurable
              ailment was often fatal (one doctor predicted in 1948 that JFK
              had only a year to live), since it involved an impairment of the
              adrenal glands, and a weakening of the immune system. Treatment
              with cortisone injections improved JFK’s health, enabling him to
              gain weight and improve his skin color, but for the rest of his
              political career (and life) his health was fragile. JFK and his
              family worked hard to keep his Addison’s Disease a secret, aware
              that public knowledge of such a condition would probably torpedo
              his chances of political advancement.

  • nqisfun

    Looks like Boehner is really having to sell this deal to his people. The key is to sell it to Pelosi. They will need as many Democratic votes as possible.

    • Docelder

      Or just throw a glass of water on her and watch her melt… :)

    • William L. Donlon

      It Won”t Pass.

      Why?

      It didn’t cut 4 trillion. (Called for in April 2011 by S&P)

      It doesn’t cut until 2013

      We are overspending by 4billion a day x 153  = 612billion Additional Debt just for the remainder of 2011.

      1.46 Trillion Additional Debt on top of that for 2012

      That’s a whopping 2+ TRILLION ADDITIONAL DEBT at our current rate of over spending,

      BEFORE any 2013 cuts kick in.

      Watch the “Markets open on that “Austerity” news.

      If the “Markets” go down — and they will
      It’s going to be a tough sell for both Tea Party and Dems.

      I don’t think we will hear from the “Fat Lady” today.

      • nqisfun

        “I don’t think we will hear from the “Fat Lady” today.”

        That is a pretty sexist comment.

        If you were to make immediate spending cuts it would further sink the economy, which would do more harm to the deficit and debt.

        • William L. Donlon

          “If you were to make immediate spending cuts it would further sink the economy, which would do more harm to the deficit and debt.”

          No it wouldn’t!

          We could cut 4 trillion, 300 billion in redundant programs and never dent the economic recovery, such as it is.

          We would not dent the wast and fraud built into the federal budget.

          After Fraud and waste we could eliminate:

          The “Energy Dept. — set up by Carter to get us off foreign Oil —– ?????? — Worthless!

          The Education Dept. Scores have gone down every year since 1964 — ????? — Every State has a State Ed Dept. that does it better.
          Every School District has a Board Of Ed. and they do it better.

          Cut the Department of Ed. Save money and improve scores.

          Cut The ATF??? — We have the FBI???

          The Dept Of Homeland Security??? — We have the CIA and The FBI???

          The EPA???? — But of course that comes under cutting Fraud.

          Those cuts would improve the economy, reduce the Debt by trillions,and that’s just for starters.

          I realize that every “sacred cow” has a mother — but it’s Cut Now or Cut Bigger later.

           

          • nqisfun

            Your tinfoil hat is on extra tight today!

            So you think taking $4 trillion or $300 billion or whatever your ridiculous number would not hurt the economy? How could you take that much money out of the economy and not hurt the economy?

            William, do you even know how much discretionary spending (includes the things you list) is of the total budget? 

    • olivia1998

      That means this bill is not for the good of the country but for the Democrats and Obama’s next election.  Fight on Rep

  • Anonymous

    Either Durbin is as stupid as Obama or he is a liar.

    Sen. Durbin said on FNS this morning that Dems haven’t passed a budget
    bc of 60-vote threshold. Odd he doesn’t know you only need 51.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/31/durbin-doesnt-know-just-51-votes-needed-to-pass-a-budget-in-the-senate/

    • nqisfun

      Have you been paying attention to all the filibustering that goes on in the Senate by the GOP these days? Do you think for a minute that the GOP is going to allow any budget to pass with only 51 votes, particular a budget from the Dems?

      Are you that thick?

      • Anonymous

        Chill.  Stop the personal attacks, or …

        • Geoff C. The saltine

          Its about time this troll has dissed way to many people here. And I for one have dreaded even come on line here since this one started posting. Its a menace.

          • Guest

            To go with, oh, just a few other unnecessarily rude and obnoxious regular posters…:)

          • ~JustMe~

            Or what Bronwyn???????

        • nqisfun

          “Chill.  Stop the personal attacks, or … ”

          Funny coming from NQ. All NQ is is about personal attacks. Looking for any excuse to ban and censor people you do not agree with. NQ is notorious for censorship.

          Lame that you cannot deal with anyone who does not go along with the NQ party line. What are you scared of?

          • Anonymous

            All the liberal blogs I have tried to comment on don’t allow my comments to even go through, so don’t come here with that bullshit.  NQ allows your comments to show and those of all the other trolls, too, unless all those other  trolls are really you anyway, which is probably the case.  If you don’t like the way everyone responds to you, then I wholeheartedly invite you to piss off.

            • nqisfun

              I don’t care at all how people respond to my comments. I would however prefer they debate the points. It would be more interesting. I am not the one complaining. I have been coming to NQ for 4 years, so I know exactly how they operate. I am not sure what liberal blogs you are going to, but they very much allow all kinds of different views and conservatives to comment. It is only right-wing sites that ban any different views.

      • Anonymous

        When Sir Golfsalot signs this bill, do you think he will manage to get the year correct ?

        • Docelder

          He will probably veto it unless he can get credit for it. It’s all about little Barry. It always has been and it always will be.

        • Docelder

          Looks like he ripped off Oprah’s signature… figures. 

          • Anonymous

            Or the Zodiac’s signature….or is that crosshairs….

      • Seattlegonz

        Obama’s budget was defeated in the senate by 97 votes against, 0 for. Ryan’s budget, which passed the house, was defeated by democrats in the senate. They didn’t amend it and go through the normal process of getting a budget done. Reid should learn how to perform the duties of majority leader.

        We need a budget! The house  is the only group that has had the political courage and fiscal responsibility to pass a damn budget. All the dems have done is thrown stones at him for doing it, too.

        Obamacrats confuse bullying with leadership.

        • nqisfun

          There is no filibuster in the House. A major difference. If there was a filibuster in the House, you can bet the Ryan plan would have never passed.

      • Anonymous

        Yawn, flag, swat, thick troll.

        • Wbboe

          That is the best response I have seen.  Logic with them is a waste of time.  Their game is sophistry, and they have no problem defending an indefensible position.

      • AC

        nqisfun,
        Boy are you some kind of DUFUS.  It’s a threat of a filibuster you idiot.  Tell me the last time anyone in the Senate actually did filibuster.  Do you even know the meaning of the word?  What an idiot!

        • nqisfun

          What is your point? For all intensive purposes the threat of a filibuster is the same as actually doing a filibuster. The senate treats it the same. The senate has invoke closure a record number of times in the last two years. Why did they have closure votes 134 times in the 110th congress?

          • AC

            My point is YOU’RE AN IDIOT!  No a threat to filibuster is not the same just like a threat to score a touchdown is not the same as a touchdown.  Moreover, your choice of words proves you’re an idiot.  Example: “intensive purpose” what the hell that does this mean? Oh you mean  ”intents and purposes” but how would an idiot know.  Hell you cant even get a cliché  right.

      • AC

        nqisfun,
        Boy are you some kind of DUFUS.  It’s a threat of a filibuster you idiot.  Tell me the last time anyone in the Senate actually did filibuster.  Do you even know the meaning of the word?  What an idiot!

    • Anonymous

      I vote for both HARP…he’s both dumb and dishonest.