Say What You Want About Rachel Maddow …

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You know, I appreciate this, and I had liked Rachel Maddow until her hatred of Clinton became so RABID. So after having been so incredibly biased, it is hard to take Maddow seriously now. Her “remarks” at the end highlight her incredible lack of neutrality.

If it was “bruising” for Hillary to CORRECTLY question Obama’s inexperience, what the hell was it that Obama did to BOTH Clintons?? His was SMEAR, her’s was factual. Big difference. If the whole Iraq War thing was what got Obama the nomination (as opposed to, say, VOTER FRAUD), why did his choosing Biden not matter?

And might I add – if Obama was so abt Change, why is it he keeps picking people from the Clinton Admin. and Hillary herself?? Frankly, I would rather have the real McCoy than this poseur.

You know, I had wondered how in the world Obama was going to create/do policy without Hillary’s website to steal from. Now I know. He’ll put her in the White House and get her to continue to do HIS homework. I HOPE she doesn’t do this!! Let him stand on his OWN already!

I no longer watch any of the main stream media programs on television. I only watch C Span.

I cancelled my subscription to LATimes.

I remember how biased the msm was during this election cycle- so will anyone tell me please-WHY ON EARTH SHOULD I PAY ANY ATTENTION TO THEM NOW?

I dont care if what they are saying is accurate or not. In the back of my mind I will always know what great propaganda power the msm yields-they put it into practice this past year.

And please-dont tell me they have learned the error of their ways and will NOW try to give us unbiased and comprehensive news.

They may try to do this in the short term to lull us into sense of security so we re activate our subscriptions and go back to our old viewing habits. And then…someone somewhere will ask the owners of these media giants to sit in on an important meeting concerning national security so that they can all discuss how to best portray the news so that this someone can have a certain objective accomplished.

Sorry- we have lived through this during this election election. Sorry to say that this is no longer under the category of conspiracy theory…

Sorry Rachel Maddow can bite me.

mitchell: I never covered a transition that was this tight

Good Gravy! There are leaks and names floated everywhere about every position. rahm’s appointment was discussed as openly as anything could be.

Rachel and MSNBO are so in the tank for Obama that they are mimicking his campaign look and feel in news reports.

At 2:25 in the top video look at the graphic with images of Obama and Achmedinijad and the words
“IRAN SCARED TO
NEGOTIATE”

Note the typeface and layout are direct lifts from the Obama campaign graphic standards manual.

Both of these videos show MSNBC attempting to erase our memories. Sorry. Not possible. The Hillary story feels like an imaginary carrot after a bruising stick. “Maybe…she is being considered for a cabinet post…maybe…” Baloney.
Rachel Maddow has lost all credibility. Anything she says, I doubt. Period. She earned that skepticism by lying repeatedly during the campaign NIGHT AFTER NIGHT. Two weeks out and I’m supposed to take her seriously? No way. “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”

I can’t watch Rachel Maddow without remembering how despicable she was to Hillary Clinton. I can’t watch Rachel Maddow without remembering how she fawned over Barack Obama (and, in that first video, continues to).

I have no intention of letting “bygones be bygones”. From now on, I will hold people accountable for what they do, or have done, and Rachel Maddow was a huge contributor to the sexism and misogyny of this past 2 years.

As far as I’m concerned, she is completely lacking in integrity and she’s destroyed any credibility she might have had at one time. So, I won’t watch her, and I won’t give her any applause for anything she says, because anything that comes out of her mouth will be forever formed and colored by her actions throughout the 2008 election.

I banish her from my kingdom queendom!

Larry,

Did you read this post by Bronwyn Harbor?

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/14/say-what-you-want-about-rachel-maddow/

Try reading the first and last paragraphs. She is psychotic.

You really need to consider whether you want her posting articles on your site. did you hear her on Dr. Lynette Long’s blogspot radio show this week? Bronwyn has clearly lost it.

First paragraph….nuts:
I, Bronwyn’s Harbor aka Lena Grove aka nasuSPCnU* and whoever else I decide to be (!) profoundly appreciate it that she is reporting this kind of news, which is most certainly MISSING as in MIA on Fox News, which I’m getting tired of … or they’re getting tired of their schtick … or they’ve got a mental flat tire or something … Nocturnal Warrior made some astute observations about Fox News not being nearly as interesting anymore. Anyway, THIS is a good report, Rachel. Hate her or love her, this is worth watching (it’s akin to what one can see on BBC World News America on BBC America, the BBC version on cable and satellite TV):

Last paragraph….psychotic:
*Just keep this among ourselves without discussion, may we? We are trying NOT to draw attention because some people will not stop until they destroy my entire life. If they do that, I will self-immolate in front of the Federal Building at the nearest major city. If only to shame the thugs. I will have nothing left soon enough if they succeed, so there’ll be nothing left to do anyway. So don’t contribute to the problems by asking a lot of questions, if I may be harsh with you for a moment. I really thought people would figure this out without my having to say anything, but apparently not.

Rachel Maddow is the only good thing MSNBC has to offer. Her reporting is far superior to anything on the MSM. I wouldn’t be surprised if CNN offered her big bucks to join their team. If she were to move to any other channel, one thing is for sure….she would get alot more viewers than she gets on MSNBC.

Rachel Maddow is a professional liar.
We don’t play forgive and forget with those. She lied intentionally.
She was a bad radio host at Air America Radio and she’s a bad host at MSNBC.

Am I the last guy to see this?

Hillary for Secretary of State?

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November 13, 2008

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I can not believe that anyone in their right mind could find anything good to say about MSNBC and their hired assassins. This was the most biased of all the TV stations and you don’t have to take my word. It was judged to be so by out side sources. Maddow and Mitchell were among the thugs that helped destroy the Hillary campaign.

I can’t watch Fox since election night. And I haven’t watched MSNBC in so long that I appreciate you posting Maddow so I can see what I’ve been missing. I actually used to love her on Air America.

But it is obvious that the “sell” continues and that these people are so in the tank for Obama we will never hear/read/see unbiased news again from the left or the right.

This site should be focusing on undermining Obama and the corrupt congress, and on a media boycott.

The McCain bashing and other puerilities of the last few days are well below the standard NQ had set up to the election.

OMG. I just let myself get tricked into watching MSNBC. I feel a need to shower & brush my teeth, yet I what a really need is a way to wipe the memory from my brain.
Larry – what’s going on?

Since this election is over, are we going to so easily forget how biased the main stream media was against Hillary and forget all their sexist remarks? MSNBC being one of the leaders of this misogyny? For these reasons alone I would not turn my back on Fox, who were the most fair and balanced during this campaign and extended that fairness to Hillary.

Let me remind you of who the biased main stream media is again. MSNBC whose ratings are in last place because of people like Maddow, CNN, whose ratings are in second place with 2 million viewers, as opposed to Fox who is in first place with 8 million viewers. Then we have NBC, CBS and ABC too.

It is a little known fact that liberals are not a loyal viewer base. Now that this election is over, MSNBC is getting desperate for higher ratings, since a lot of their liberal viewer base has deserted them, because they no longer need them now.

I joined PUMA because I was so digusted by the unfair and sexist treatment that the main stream media was dishing out to Hillary. I for one, will not forget that lesson so soon.

Good investigative reporting? or continued mouthpiece for Obama?

What I see is suddenly a turn towards showing the horrors of war in a sympathetic new light, and setting up the stage for Obama to go into Pakistan… and excuse his letting down his anti-war supporters, who will gobble it all up like baked koolaid.

Are you freaking kidding me. Good investigative reporting?

I am not surprised that Obama would offer Hillary the Secretary of State position. It goes to the old adage:

“Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.”

Obama recognizes that his one major internal threat for disunity is Hillary.

I for one would hope she does not accept the post.

By doing so would stick it back to Obama for overlooking her completely for Vice President.

More importantly cabinet Secretaries are largely window dressing for a first term President. You can go back in time and see that President’s rely more on specific advisors and even undersecretaries. Colin Powell was not in control of major foreign policy decisions at any point in time. Cheney and Rice had far more influence than Powell. I would guess that Obama will take advice primarily through whomever he selects as advisors and expect cabinet secretaries to go along with those marching orders. I would think that Hillary is already aware of that.

In addition, by signing up with Obama she takes herself out of consideration for competing against him in four years if his administration is as hopeless as Carter’s was when Ted Kennedy challenged him.

Overall, she could be going down with the ship by taking that cabinet post and hope she does not.

I believe she could become the pary leader if and when an Obama administration faulters and could accomplish what Ted Kennedy could not against Carter.

I used to listen to Rachel Maddow until it became clear that she, too, had sold her soul and embraced the cult of O, as evidenced by severe Clinton Derangement Syndrome. Maddow’s show has increasingly embraced the infotainment genre, foregoing serious exploration of issues in favor of faux-clever sound bites. I stomached part of the broadcast referenced in this article,screaming insanely at my husband to “turn it off” when she launched into her twisty, mind-f**k spin based upon Clinton’s campaign assertion re: The Divine Infant’s ill-preparedness to tackle foreign policy. IMHO, the consideration of Clinton represents an implicit acknowledgement of The Child’s inability to do the job, which is why she probably won’t be appointed. From my perspective, Maddow’s report on this topic represents MSNBC’s continued gift-bearing to The One, imlying that he is sound of judgement, and magnanimous in his Divine forgiveness.

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Bronwyn’s Harbor, ten out of ten points for actually trying to do something contrarian here. You must have known the shit-storm you were about to stir.

And just like clock work the villagers picked up the pitchforks and torches. It is so predictable. Nothing is going to interfere with their sense of umbrage and self-righteousness. Any person who dared whisper anything the least bit negative about Hillary is automatically Persona non Grata and in the tank for Obama.

Of course NQ being NQ the thread rapidly departed any semblance of civility and went straight into attacking Maddow’s sexuality and looks as if that was somehow relevant to the discussion.

If anyone here actually listened to her on Air America, or podcasted her from the site they would know that Maddow was no Obama-bot. Maddow was a constant critic of the Obama campaign from the left. Because of her left leanings she was also a constant critic of what she saw as right-wing smears against Obama no matter where the source.

As a civics and National Security geek she was instantaneously nervous with any person foisting a meme about a Democrat being weak on defense. She saw such talking points as corrosive and false. So when HRC trotted them out she was unhappy with a Democrat running what she saw as a Republican talking point. Maddow objects to the entire notion of Democratic “weakness” on defense. She also objects to the notion that brute force is the first and only answer to foreign policy conundrums.

Maddow was one of the first journalist to take Obama to task for his Pakistan policy pronouncement. She was very critical of Obama’s excessive deference to the Israeli lobby. She worried about the Wright and Ayers connections before they became household words.

She does have a soft spot for Obama because she see him as both smart and calm. She has an even softer spot for the Democratic Party and worried excessively about the possible damage Clinton might be doing it by dragging out the nomination process. It was not an anti-Clinton bias it was an anti-party divisiveness bias that informed Maddow. She worried that the Democrats via the Clinton fight would find a way to loose. She saw the fight leading to her ultimate horror; the election of John Sidney McCain III and four more years of Republican misrule.

When McCain wrapped up the nomination her bias was simple and consistent- pick one! Barack, Hillary, please Democrats– Pick one. That was her constant refrain from February onwards. She was even thinking of have her listeners call the Super Delegates to pressure them into declaring a choice. If it were up to Maddow she probably would have forced Hillary and Obama into a coin flip right after McCain cleared the Republican nomination.

As political science doctorate Maddow was always going to be critic of both Obama and Hillary’s less than honest pronouncements. She knows the process because she is a process geek. So when Hillary came up with multiple reasons of why she should be the nominee that did not pan out Rachel called Hillary out on that. When the Clinton Campaign lost message discipline and started leaking like a sieve she pointed that out too. When the Clinton camp went to messaging about how they had gained the majority of votes, Maddow as a responsible journalist had to point out how that claim was a.)at best barely true and possible false and b.) even if true not pertinent to how the Democratic Party chooses the nominee.

And when Obama’s became the nominee Rachel was totally behind the Democratic Parties nominee as any Air American ( that would be a listener to Air America) would be. Rachel started her gig at MSNBC as the foil to the man she called “Uncle Pat” That would be right wing ideologue and Sara Palin supporter Pat Buchanan. Ever since she began her career at a tiny station in Massachusetts Maddow has worn her left-liberal, pro-gay rights, process geek politics on her sleeve. She was against the Iraq war from the start and was stridently and snarkily anti Bush from the start.

Before Palin showed up on the scene she was merciless with McCain for his connections with lobbyists and odd-ball preachers. She was ruthless in her deconstruction of McCain the Republican Party.

And in a field that N.Q. readers used to care deeply about, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and the Bush Administration prosecution of the war on terror, Maddow was a klaxon in the might cutting through the happy bullshit the administration and the corporate media put out. Every broadcast on her radio show starts off with “life during wartime” an in depth report on the news in Iraq and Afghanistan. It is real news from the front that you don’t hear anywhere else.

Yes Maddow was brutal with Palin, if she refused to show deference to the president of the United States in her broadcast why should she give the governor of Alaska a pass? There was no secret to Rachel’s attitude toward Palin. Rachel was quite blunt about it, Maddow felt that Palin was deeply unqualified to be Vice President. Maddow was quite clear that she found the governor incurious, ill-informed, ill-prepared and laugh-out-loud ridiculous. She made no secret of her policy differences with Palin. Rachel saw Palin as a cynical political move by the McCain campaign to appeal to the Hillary voters. Her objection to Palin continues to be heart-felt and has nothing to do with Sara as a female and everything to do with who and what Palin represents. Maddow’s objection to Palin is exactly what you would expect from a politically and socially left of center person who just happens to be gay. Her objection is shared with Thom Hartman, Ron Regan ( yes the son of the Gipper), David Bender and other “Air Americans.” It is a political and philosophical objection and it is no secret.

I don’t expect the hermetically sealed denizens of N.Q. approve of this message. People who sign themselves as “Obama is a Traitor” have gone so deeply around the bend in their hatred, paranoia, and obsessiveness as to be unreachable. The complete abandonment of rational and dispassionate thought is at base disturbing. People are still pinning their hopes to tapes or court cases that have no chance of ever turning up in the shape desired. Distortions and outright lies are taken as gospel truth. Crackpot theories about how George Soros or some other group of Illuminati have hijacked the Democratic Party and defeated “their Hillary” abound.

The possessiveness is rather creepy, our Hillary, my Sara, our Democratic Party. It is like these people or institutions were a birth-right; that only a select and happy few had full legal claim to these items. It assumes that only the small clique of readers that congregate here have the ultimate truth. Anyone who dares points out that there may be a flaw in this view is banished into the outer darkness. Screams of “boycott” or “terrorist” or just screams of shut up are hurled at anyone who is not singing the company song.

Many can’t even come to grips with the notion that the NQ case against Obama failed to move anyone who was not already deeply committed to it. There is an unquestioning faith in the sure “knowledge” that if the mythical American people only knew what NQ regulars knew, the unwashed masses would see the light. There is an oblivious and stubborn refusal to see the illogic in the arguments. “Obama is a Marxist, Socialist, Black Nationalist, Secret Muslim.” is a statement that falls apart from its own internal contradictions. It is absolutely impossible for the caricature of Obama that is drawn in this blog to exist in the real world. Not even Bond villains are as consistently evil ,despicable and duplicitous as the “traitor” Obama that lurks in the shadows of the fevered minds of N.Q. regulars. Ditto for all the concern trolling about Obama’s associations. The voters had a good look at Ayers and Wright and gave them and the other cast of “worrisome associations” a collective shrug. Again it was the inconsistency of what laid behind those “associations” or the friend of a friends, mother’s, cousins’ room-mate’s podiatrist nature of the links. Obama was a NOI, Marxist, Afro-Centrist, Socialist, terrorist, redistribution, Daley Machine Politician who was mobbed up and corrupt. The only thing that held these things together was the meme of fear. The central premise of NObama was clear but it was the stubborn, mindless, petulant no of a toddler. Rachel Maddow’s biggest sin was to point that out.