Comments on: Some of the Latest on Hillary as SecState http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6092/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/ Sun, 27 May 2012 12:02:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: NYC http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6092/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1038459 NYC Sat, 15 Nov 2008 18:43:47 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/14/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1038459 Another installment of the Secretary of State drama: <blockquote>The aide said that in the last few months of the campaign Mr. Obama came to appreciate the effort she made to rally her supporters on his behalf. Should he pick her, Mr. Obama may further unite and energize his party, make clear to the world that he is serious about diplomacy, and send a substantive political signal to women.</blockquote> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/15/us/politics/15obama.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin Another installment of the Secretary of State drama:

The aide said that in the last few months of the campaign Mr. Obama came to appreciate the effort she made to rally her supporters on his behalf.

Should he pick her, Mr. Obama may further unite and energize his party, make clear to the world that he is serious about diplomacy, and send a substantive political signal to women.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/15/us/politics/15obama.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin

]]> By: amanda_tx http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6092/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1038235 amanda_tx Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:53:27 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/14/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1038235 The ironic thing is that Hillary would have made a better President than either McCain or Barky, since she had a superior domestic policy AND she had years of experience meeting with foreign leaders in a non-official diplomatic status. Dont care about a glass ceiling at this moment in time, Id just rather not see the world and the US deconstruct, so Hillary would be instrumental in position of foreign policy leader. I dont believe Hillary will run for President again. As far as him appointing her only to then fire her that wouldnt be the best move for him, though its true he cant be trusted. The ironic thing is that Hillary would have made a better President than either McCain or Barky, since she had a superior domestic policy AND she had years of experience meeting with foreign leaders in a non-official diplomatic status. Dont care about a glass ceiling at this moment in time, Id just rather not see the world and the US deconstruct, so Hillary would be instrumental in position of foreign policy leader.
I dont believe Hillary will run for President again. As far as him appointing her only to then fire her that wouldnt be the best move for him, though its true he cant be trusted.

]]> By: amanda_tx http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6092/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1038209 amanda_tx Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:44:45 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/14/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1038209 mmm, I have to admit this possibility had not occurred to me. Good points. Im conflicted about Hillary accepting this post because Id rather not see her get entwined with the catastrophe of a BO administration, but Im also hoping that she might save his scrawny ass, and ours on the way, since we need a very strong SoS, and his grasp of foreign policy is nil. mmm, I have to admit this possibility had not occurred to me. Good points. Im conflicted about Hillary accepting this post because Id rather not see her get entwined with the catastrophe of a BO administration, but Im also hoping that she might save his scrawny ass, and ours on the way, since we need a very strong SoS, and his grasp of foreign policy is nil.

]]> By: mimi http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6092/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1038200 mimi Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:42:47 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/14/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1038200 Andrea, You are my kind of cynic. Yes, he wants Richardson and Kerry to grovel, publicly. This is how 0bama rolls. If you saw the Hillary yesterday at the transportation conference where she was scheduled to speak, Hillary had a smirk on her face and put the ball back in Barky's court saying she was going to let the 0bama people deal with anything pertaining to his Cabinet. Hillary's laughing at him, Kerry and Richardson. This is a win-win situation for her no matter how it plays, especially if he goes with someone else after letting this leak. They are trying to blame Clinton's people for this, but it won't work. His people let this leak, not hers. No matter how they try to spin this, if he doesn't choose her, he's going to look bad, it will greatly weaken his ultimate choice and the great part is Hillary gets to stay in the Senate and challenge him as she pleases. 0bama may think he's the best at being a snake, but he forgets, that he has to govern, too. The more ill-will he garners, the less people will help him and trust him. He's got too much on his plate to play Chicago-style <em>'snake-in-the grass' </em>politics. Frankly, he's off to a great start, one that is already predicting his doom. Keep it up Barky! Andrea,

You are my kind of cynic.

Yes, he wants Richardson and Kerry to grovel, publicly.

This is how 0bama rolls.

If you saw the Hillary yesterday at the transportation conference where she was scheduled to speak, Hillary had a smirk on her face and put the ball back in Barky’s court saying she was going to let the 0bama people deal with anything pertaining to his Cabinet.

Hillary’s laughing at him, Kerry and Richardson. This is a win-win situation for her no matter how it plays, especially if he goes with someone else after letting this leak. They are trying to blame Clinton’s people for this, but it won’t work.

His people let this leak, not hers.

No matter how they try to spin this, if he doesn’t choose her, he’s going to look bad, it will greatly weaken his ultimate choice and the great part is Hillary gets to stay in the Senate and challenge him as she pleases.

0bama may think he’s the best at being a snake, but he forgets, that he has to govern, too. The more ill-will he garners, the less people will help him and trust him.

He’s got too much on his plate to play Chicago-style ‘snake-in-the grass’ politics.

Frankly, he’s off to a great start, one that is already predicting his doom.

Keep it up Barky!

]]> By: mimi http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6092/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1038158 mimi Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:26:21 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/14/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1038158 The American government will never challenge these issues until the women of America come together to protest and vote people in office who will challenge this policy. Sadly, when the women of America united against Hillary and then Palin, that pretty much showed how much concern they have for other women. The 0bama administration will not challenge this nor would an McCain administration have. The ball is in our court. The American government will never challenge these issues until the women of America come together to protest and vote people in office who will challenge this policy.

Sadly, when the women of America united against Hillary and then Palin, that pretty much showed how much concern they have for other women.

The 0bama administration will not challenge this nor would an McCain administration have.

The ball is in our court.

]]> By: mimi http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6092/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1038144 mimi Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:20:52 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/14/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1038144 If that is true, he's still making a mistake. It means he still doesn't get that many of Hillary's supporters will NOT be appeased by such an obvious move. If that is true, he’s still making a mistake. It means he still doesn’t get that many of Hillary’s supporters will NOT be appeased by such an obvious move.

]]> By: mimi http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6092/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1038141 mimi Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:19:16 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/14/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1038141 What are you saying? If it hadn't been for the Iran hostage mess, the Carter may have won. What are you saying? If it hadn’t been for the Iran hostage mess, the Carter may have won.

]]> By: mimi http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6092/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1038120 mimi Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:10:15 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/14/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1038120 Yes, he is a child. A spoiled brat child, at that! Go ahead 0bama... give me yet another reason to despise you. Keep piling up the shit heap. Float her name around and then pick someone else. Act like it was her who didn't want the job. Blame Bill Clinton's conflict of interest. We know the drill, how you operate. You think people are pissed now, see what happens if you don't pick her after this. Yes, he is a child. A spoiled brat child, at
that!

Go ahead 0bama… give me yet another reason to despise you. Keep piling up the shit heap.

Float her name around and then pick someone else. Act like it was her who didn’t want the job. Blame Bill Clinton’s conflict of interest.

We know the drill, how you operate.

You think people are pissed now, see what happens if you don’t pick her after this.

]]> By: mimi http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6092/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1038112 mimi Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:05:47 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/14/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1038112 Wisewoman, This AA Hillary supporter says the same. You are very wise, indeed. Wisewoman,

This AA Hillary supporter says the same.

You are very wise, indeed.

]]> By: Newly Independent http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6092/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1037247 Newly Independent Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:59:12 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/14/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1037247 <blockquote>Does anyone ever seriously challenge the encumbent?</blockquote> Well, even though he didn't get the nomination, Ted Kennedy ran against Jimmy Carter for the Democrat nom back in 1980. It was a bitter fight too. Had it not been for the Chappaquiddick scandal and the Iran hostage mess, Kennedy may have beaten Carter.

Does anyone ever seriously challenge the encumbent?

Well, even though he didn’t get the nomination, Ted Kennedy ran against Jimmy Carter for the Democrat nom back in 1980. It was a bitter fight too. Had it not been for the Chappaquiddick scandal and the Iran hostage mess, Kennedy may have beaten Carter.

]]> By: bystander http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6092/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1037196 bystander Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:39:01 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/14/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1037196 What power does a Junior senator with no seniority have? She'd have to wait 15 - 20 years for a committee chairmanship. What power does a Junior senator with no seniority have? She’d have to wait 15 – 20 years for a committee chairmanship.

]]> By: NYC http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6092/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1037115 NYC Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:07:57 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/14/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1037115 "a man" “a man”

]]> By: NYC http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6092/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1037111 NYC Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:07:04 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/14/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1037111 I think this man is desperate because as someone mentioned before, he realizes after his conversation with Mr. Bush, that being a president is not the same as posing for the cameras and the only solution for him is to pick capable people that know their business and can make the ride easy for him. He can play Mr. Nice with Hillary Clinton, not a problem for him. We know how an opportunistic and cynical man he is. I still think that the offer is serious and that Mrs. Clinton will accept. I think this man is desperate because as someone mentioned before, he realizes after his conversation with Mr. Bush, that being a president is not the same as posing for the cameras and the only solution for him is to pick capable people that know their business and can make the ride easy for him. He can play Mr. Nice with Hillary Clinton, not a problem for him. We know how an opportunistic and cynical man he is. I still think that the offer is serious and that Mrs. Clinton will accept.

]]> By: m Andrea http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6092/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1036937 m Andrea Sat, 15 Nov 2008 07:07:50 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/14/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1036937 Can we pleeeeeeze have some cynicism? From the other post: <blockquote>Should something happen to Joe Biden, gven his medical history, this would put Hillary in a perfect position to move up to V.P., and I bet Obama has realized he would much prefer to have her as his V.P. than Biden and a lot of other people.)</blockquote> If Obomination had wanted Hillery as his VP, then he would have made it happen. The only reason this news was "leaked" was to sow consternation and confusion among the top contenders for the post. He's wanting a last-minute favor or concession out of them. And the added bonus of getting the hopes up of the Hillary brigade, so he can have the satisfaction of crushing them later. <em>As soon as you start thinking like an evil world ruler who hate women, it becomes obvious...</em> Can we pleeeeeeze have some cynicism? From the other post:

Should something happen to Joe Biden, gven his medical history, this would put Hillary in a perfect position to move up to V.P., and I bet Obama has realized he would much prefer to have her as his V.P. than Biden and a lot of other people.)

If Obomination had wanted Hillery as his VP, then he would have made it happen.

The only reason this news was “leaked” was to sow consternation and confusion among the top contenders for the post. He’s wanting a last-minute favor or concession out of them. And the added bonus of getting the hopes up of the Hillary brigade, so he can have the satisfaction of crushing them later.

As soon as you start thinking like an evil world ruler who hate women, it becomes obvious…

]]> By: IndayHill http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6092/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1036844 IndayHill Sat, 15 Nov 2008 06:32:15 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/14/some-of-the-latest-on-hillary-as-secstate/#comment-1036844 Lorelai, ouch !! that is double whammy for HRC & her supporters, not mentioning for decent, civil people! It is really a tough decision for HRC, IF Obama decides to give her the position of SoS.She will be Obama subordinate, instead of vice-versa.But her patriotism to her country might prevail over her ambition. We wish you GOOD LUCK & BEST OF WISHES, Senator Clinton. Lorelai, ouch !! that is double whammy for HRC & her supporters, not mentioning for decent, civil people!
It is really a tough decision for HRC, IF Obama decides to give her the position of SoS.She will be Obama subordinate, instead of vice-versa.But her patriotism to her country might prevail over her ambition.
We wish you GOOD LUCK & BEST OF WISHES, Senator Clinton.

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