Run Away, Run Away!

If Hillary becomes Secretary of State, she’ll be the scapegoat for everything that goes wrong.

Another spot on analysis Reverend Amy. Thanks.

Hell to the no!!

Amy, I agree with you.
Senator Clinton should stay in the Senate…she could easily serve another 10 to 15 years, barring health issues.
She may opt to accept Secretary of State, and then run for Governor of New York.
But, in all honesty, I think this is no more than a rumor…anything to keep that one front and center until January!

I am still angry about the stolen caucuses — for those of you who did not attend or who live in a Primary state — you missed the full force of the Obama trained thugs and their sexism.

To me their behavior was a snap shot (approved by O-zero) of what his administration would be like.

Oh f**K — change of subjects — but to my right as I top there is that *(*&&^ f**king sexist “The Hillary Nu…. by CSB commodities for $18.15 by Amazon.com

And that is what I’m talking about —

Hillary RUN AWAY — from this titanic.

I don’t think Obama will pick Richardson. He happily accepted his endorsement, but in the back of his mind, he was thinking “what a RAT!”

Obama isn’t going to pick someone who would betray him for his own gain (although Obama would to someone else, he wouldn’t want anyone to do it to him). He doesn’t like Judas.

It’s Hillary’s job if she wants it. If she doesn’t get it, it will be because she turned it down, not the media narrative that Obama decided not to choose her.

That should read — as I was typing — I saw the Hillary Nut Cracker — the image –

to my right — on the Amazon.com

Sexism & hatred of women is so damned in our faces that Poopsee lies with the best of her boy buddies about not seeing any evidence of sexism.

Thank you Amy and NQlive I quite agree!

Hillary would be brilliant at what EVER she does but I just hope she doesn’t decide to be Barry’s crutch for 4 yrs.

ACK (spit)

Yes, the Hillary Nutcracker advertised on NQ. I realize NQ does not control what Amazon puts up there but this is just making me sick.

Please, please Hillary, run away from Obummer. Tell him NO! Stay in the Senate!

I don’t agree with this.

Hillary would be a GREAT Secretary of State. In the Senate, her vote counts for 1%. That’s it. The Secretary of State, by contrast, is a high-profile, important position. She will be representing the United States all over the world and will be the top diplomat. It’s a position worthy of her and I think it’s the kind of role that she’s been looking for.

I absolutely think she should accept it, and I think that’s what would be best for the country.

right on! NWRain I feel ya!

I am deeply suspicious of Barky’s motives in “leaking” Hill’s name for SOS. I trust that she has the experience and political savvy to do what she thinks is best for the country and for her political career.

I know she would be an outstanding Secretary of State and I, for one, would feel safer if someone like her who knows what they are doing is in a position of power.

OMG!!!!!!!! I see it too! The Hillary Nutcracker on the side bar!

Just disgusting.

To how many slithering politicians did Obama promise the SOS in return for their endorsement? Apparently, Hillary is the only exception!! I have never wished such negative things for Washington, but, I’m sorry, folks, this POS Obama has turned me into one seething citizen eager for heads to roll and careers to crash. I’m beginning to enjoy this. FU Obama and whomever you chose, you Kenyan/Indonesian Hybrid, not a citizen of the USA. Send your Obots after me. I’m ready for you. One foot on my property…

We’re not agreeing much today..but I like you Dawnelle

I hope Hillary takes the job of SOS. The main reason I was comfortable with Hillary despite a defeatist, leftist, wave the white flag democrat party is because she is a pragmatist and a moderate and would do the right thing regardless of popular opinion.
The fact that Hillary got up and cheered our troops at the state of the union while Obama sat on his hands wishing defeat speaks volumes about her courage and patriotism to this country.
I will feel safer with the Clinton’s overseeing foreign policy. On the world stage Hillary will become a force which will lead to her presidency.

Why anyone- man or woman- would put their career in Barky’s hands is beyond me! He has a habit of throwing people under the bus as well as a history of using people.

As Hillaryis44 blog says, BO simply cannot be trusted. BO cannot be trusted by his friends. BO cannot be trusted by his enemies. BO cannot be trusted on any issue. BO simply cannot be trusted.

If Hillary takes SOS, she has something on him that will guarantee his not firing her. If he does fire her anyway, she will spill the beans. She and Bill are getting close to having enough of this s*** from all sides, IMO.

*****PLEASE DO NOT CONTINUE TO PLACE COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC COMMENTS IN THREADS. BRING THEM TO OPEN THREADS*********

Yes, I am afraid he would figure out how to destroy her once and for all.

Let Richard Holbrooke or Wes Clark be SOS (either would be great) and let Hillary legislate. That’s my hope anyway.

But, of course, it is up to her.

What happened with Kerry’s lobbying for the position??

Was he told no already?

Judas, gaseous bag of crap. Obama is a sick slob putting Judas in any category near Hillary. Filthy slobs the lot of ‘em. Obama is floating so high above the heavens his fall is going to be thunderous. I have mixed feelings about Hillary – I really wish she would have told Obama to eat her socks after the Primaries. She could have drawn a line for women that would have never been forgotten. Instead, she colluded in setting back women’s rights decades.

Obama will be President for 4 – 8 years, and the guy doesn’t know what he’s doing in terms of foreign affairs. So maybe Clinton should take the job, not for Obama’s sake, and not for Clinton’s sake, but for the sake of the country.

If she stays in the Senate she’s solid till 2012. If she goes for State, she’ll be canned within 6 months (as soon as she solves psychic Joe’s crisis)and then won’t in politics anymore.

She will never be POTUS kids. If Obama tanks, a Republican takes 2012. If he doesn’t, he takes it. In 2016 she’ll be suffering from being almost 70, which we learned this year is a politically terminal disease.

Sorry – won’t be in politics anymore

that’s ok

you don’t think he will use and abuse her if she takes the position? I am sure she’d be the BEST at it but I just hate to see her get stabbed in the back repeatedly ya know?

we can agree on that can’t we? or are you not a woman? sorry I could be assuming you’d understand that

Oooooh, Texasplaywright, what dya think it is? The proof about the tryst with Larry Sinclair? Proof of the order through Biden to have Biden’s son issue a non-valid arrest warrant for the hapless Larry Sinclair? Maybe a link to Obama’s current supplier? Whatever that is, that is being supplied. Gosh, I dunno. Whaddaya think that could be?

I know from being addicted to pain killers, they are always on your mind, especially when your support system is non-existent or false.
Dya think Meeshell’s shoulder is comforting?

By the way, does anyone know if we, the USA, still have a Department of Justice and the laws that once governed us as a nation?

Not to be OT, but our film was used at a hearing to get rid of Caucuses by the Texas Democratic Party in Austin on Friday. Apparently a few of the Obamanuts got up and protested like crazy against entering our film into evidence. Maybe they don’t want Fraudbama’s dirty little secret of stealing the Nomination out there. We WILL do away with Caucuses so the corrupt Brazile, Reid, Dean, Pelosi nuts in the DNC will be denied their easy route to thuggery next time. Criminal AZZHOLES. I’m still pissed too.

RRRAmy – Great work yet again. I agree. If she takes this job God help her. How could she DO that?

I just think that he offered her the job because he doesn’t want her to run against him in 2012. I think she would be great but I hope she doesn’t take it.He’s just the type to blame her for everything that goes wrong.He still is an empty suit he talked about change and said that Hillary was old school and now he has mostly all Clinton people coming in where is the change people?

Rev. Amy,
As much as I respect you, your opinions, and your terrific writing, and as much as I loved Hillary, I think she will take this job if she thinks it will advance her in any way. I personally don’t think it does. But Richardson and Kerry both sold her out for positions of more power. The question becomes, Does she think this brings her more power?

I’ve become such a realist, and maybe a full fledged cynic, that I have a hard time believing any of our elected “leaders” do much of anything with the country in mind. Politics has become a game of power and money with public service taking a back seat. The idea of “service to nation” has taken a step back to “service to party”.

There were scores of people who knew that Bush was putting us into a war with no justification whatsoever, Colin Powell comes to mind, and yet none of them spoke up. A great many have spoken out now in books but why not then, when it counted?

The press refused or was too stupid to do its job until Bush ran everything into the ground.

Now we have Obumble, who never got a proper vetting from anyone outside of the blogs, who is on tape telling so many lies and getting caught in them it’s not funny, yet again the press doesn’t do its job either out of incompetence or being bought off and the politicians in the know all remain silent for their own power plays.

So, its hard for me to have a lot of hope that Senator Clinton will do any more than what’s best for her or what she sees as best for the party, no matter how wrong they are and how they wronged her, and it will all be brushed aside as “just politics”.

Just politics has shown us that the only thing that counts is that you win. Not the lies you tell. Not the people that you insult beyond means. Not the way you corrupt the voting of the public. Not the manner in which you get your illegal contributions. Not that you have any character or class. Just as long as you win.

Well if he is gonna tank our country to holy hell, why would he remain president for 8 years, we will kick his ass out. The same with Carter, he turned into one of our nations worst presidents, and we kicked him out of power. Reagan had to come and fix everything, took years but it was done, now obama is coming to be the repeat of the Carter era.

How can anyone here think that Fraudbama would offer Hillary the job without some sick, deranged ulterior motive? She must be so hurt already, seeing him bringing on all of the Clintonistas. But he can’t DO anything without it being about HIMSELF. So you have to ask yourself WHY? And the WHY probably isn’t so great for HER. I frankly think he knows he can’t do the job and wants to continue stealing her plans.

very sadly inclined to agree with you which was why I suggested a supreme seat until others said that was too OUT of the limelight for her

I think she naturally is a worker not a show off like BILL so I think the court or something akin to that would be great for her.

ARGH WOULD RATHER HAVE HER AS CIC ARGH!

(sorry latent spazm)

To be honest, I believe that Hillary put it out there after she heard from the One that she is in the running. Heavens, he wouldn’t want her to challenge him again in 2012, she might win after all the cucaus states are watched carefully this time and she has learned from Acorn’s sneaky ways. Nope, he will pick her- I think he thinks going against a ticket like Palin/Jundal might be easier for him. I don’t think so, I believe this ticket is the strongest ticket from the Republican. An India man and a woman. How minority can you get? I seriously believe that alot of the MSM will start reporting negative about him in two and half years. You want to know why? Because he will move to the central of all things (he has too many centrist around him) and the Moveon.org and the Soros people, and the elite liberals, and all the yappie kids that voted for him will hate him by 2011. His homosexual tendencies will be out by then, I am sure there are going to be coming out the woodwork after a year or so, such like all the women that came out in Clinton’s era. MSM will fall out of love with this man and start smearing him in numbers just like they did to Bush. And that my dear friends, is the facts. Now, the poor man is leaking out that people are threatening him on the internet, well, just another excuse to shut us off with his power. It will never happen, not in the good old USA- and I believe many moderate democrats will stop him too.

I have said this before, I hope she says NO to BO. He is a snake and she will be the one that gets the blame for any problems. That’s the way the chosen one works. He takes no blame. Bill the Judas is the best choice for BO. Bill the Judas has no scruples either.

I can believe that a Woman can be strong and stand on her own. This election was bought by the internationalists that pray for America’s defeat. The media had a real hand in this for profits sake.
Hillary now has a chance to go above the fray and be the diplomat that you and me so desperately want. We are in real danger of losing our sovereignty and it may take Hillary and her considerable skills to save America.
With Hillary as SOS the Clinton white house is back in power…I’m all for that and will sleep just fine at 3am in the morning.

Its going to Richardson. Remember how he changed support in the middle of the primary. This was his bait. DUH!

OT – something else to ponder. Please read:

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/11/exclusive_did_n.html

On a somewhat lighter note, I believe that in the title of her post Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy was likening Obama to Monty Python’s killer rabbit, and I’m not sure whether that’s unfair to Obama or to the rabbit.

Here’s the “Run away!” scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW4Bquzd7FI

Sorry, this “killer rabbit” clip has better resolution:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg

And see, this is the beauty of NQ – people can agree to disagree without attacking each other, and respecting each others opinions (naturally, I mean the non-Troll types can).

There is no doubt in my mind that Clinton would be an exceptional SoS (huh – that’s kind of interesting, isn’t it? That she would be the SOS??), but like I said, I do not trust Obama for one skinny second to not turn on her whenever it was convenient for him. Remember how he always blames his STAFF for anything that goes wrong?? Yeah…

He just wants to park her, so then he can have Caroline coronated as her senate replacement after having done literally nothing for America other than to pimp Barack Obama for president using her father’s name in vain. Shameful. Just shameful.

Barack Obama is NO JFK. I won’t even get into how classless he and MO are, what with ass slapping on national TV and Michelle’s horrendous wardrobe taste. Not to mention there’s no comparison with brains. And experience. JFK spent six years in congress and seven in the senate and, unlike barack Obama, he actually DID something. And when he wrote HIS book, it was about others he saw as heroes, not a bunch of bragging self-absorbed baloney.

Furthermore, he was no candy ass like Barack Obama. I would love to see Barack Obama rescue his shipmate by towing him in the middle of the sea with a rope between his teeth.

Furthermore, JFK had a sense of humor and a personality. And he didn’t run around whining and threatening other people, including his opponents.

Further Furthermore, we know who he was. We know who his family was. And there was no question where he was born either. There were no relatives hiding illegally in America, come to think of it. He didn’t have hidden brothers living in shacks and if Obama’s grandmother were JFK’s grandmother, she would have gotten a whole lot more attention from him. JFK would have definitely shown up for the funeral.

About the only thing Barack Obama has in common with JFK is he’s left handed. Only people who only knew of JFK from a paragraph in a history book would fall for this comparison.

And as for Jackie. Well, she must be REALLY rolling in her grave. Jackie invited Pablo Casals to perform, and the music wasn’t “99 Problems And A Bitch isn’t One of Them”.

Uncle Teddddyyyyyyyyyyyyy. Can I get in the family businessssssssssss????

This Article in connection with the Keyes law suit is going to make a difference.

Schluessel means Key, and they are the key.

I said this before…..Obama is ass deep in serious trouble and wants the Clintons to bail his stupid fucking corrupt ass out. I thought the Clintons were racist?? I thought Hillary couldn’t keep her own house?? I thought Michelle said she wasn’t sure if she could vote for Hillary if she won (actually she did but she didn’t get the nomination…go figure)??

Firstly, I’d be suprised if Obama gave it to her. I think he’s going to give it to Judas Richardson. But even if he does offer it to Hillary, I hope she doesn’t take it. She gave him support through the GE that he stole. She does not have to do anything else for him. If she takes it, then she has lost me for good. I just don’t believe in putting money or power above one’s own self esteem and self respect.

JSRuby,

As much as I would love to see Hillary in a leadership role here — I completely agree with your post, and Rev. Amy’s — Obama is not to be trusted as far as he can spit.

HE can’t help himself. He is a snake and will punisdh and blame her for everything, taking credit for the good she does and blaming her for HIS mistakes — she would be his employee and he could fire her at will — then no more Hillary.

In the Senate, she is still an elected official and a very popular one. She could keep that seat as long as she wanted it. We need her fighting for the economy and a solid domestic agenda as well.

Of courese, I’d love her help with foreign relations, but really — he has shown time and time again that he will do nothing but rip her up. He will not change his stripes now.

And if Obama really wanted a person of quality as Secy of State and she said no — why isn’t he going to Wes Clark? Who is ten times better and smarter than the Judas Richardson. Clark has knighthoods from so many countries — he is deeply respected.

You are exactly right.

JSRuby,

As much as I would love to see Hillary in a leadership role here — I completely agree with your post, and Rev. Amy’s — Obama is not to be trusted as far as he can spit.

HE can’t help himself. He is a snake and will punisdh and blame her for everything, taking credit for the good she does and blaming her for HIS mistakes — she would be his employee and he could fire her at will — then no more Hillary.

In the Senate, she is still an elected official and a very popular one. She could keep that seat as long as she wanted it. We need her fighting for the economy and a solid domestic agenda as well.

Of course, I’d love her help with foreign relations, but really — he has shown time and time again that he will do nothing but rip her up. He will not change his stripes now.

And if Obama really wanted a person of quality as Secy of State and she said no — why isn’t he going to Wes Clark? Who is ten times better and smarter than the Judas Richardson. Clark has knighthoods from so many countries — he is deeply respected.

The bait was the promise of the job, not necessarily the job itself. Obama promised it to Kerry, also, for his support. So, for for one, maybe both, the bait was the promise, the bait was a lie. The bait isn’t the job.

lmao! righteous rant Sista Uppity!
W00T!

Who, in her right mind, would want to be the Whipping Girl for these people?

SecState, like VO, is a job largely not worth a bucket of warm spit. Becoming the Lioness of the Senate, when Ted shuffles off to Alky Heaven, would be much better.

Okay this is what I think is going on here. Obama is sneaky. He never really lies, he just uses word play to flirt around statements by saying ambigous statements at first and then later redefining them. He does this on purpose.

Obama used these people to get elected. He used all of the Clintons long time associates to sabatoge her campiagn. He did this by promising them positions in his cabinet. He is fufilling his word, he is giving them cabinet positions.

Here is the deal though. I promise you after about a year in office. Obama will start changing them one by one. He will claim that they are hindering change. They must go. This way he keeps his word and then tells them–”I didn’t say you could stay the whole time, I just promise to give you the position FIRST”.

Watch and learn.

Bullseye!

Correction: “VP” vice “VO.”

EXACTLY! Obama’s offer of SOS to Hillary is like the Wicked Queen offering a poisoned apple to Snow White.

Obama/Reid and the other un-democrats are trying to politically neutralize Hill.

Stay in the Senate Hillary where you still have power!

Thank you Amy!!
I agree that Obama is slime but I feel that he is desperate for leadership now that he has magically won. Obama is looking around and realizes that he is in deep over his head.
I honestly believe there is no malice involved with wanting Hillary. I agree that Obama deflects blame when he can, but that goes with the territory.
Hillary can stand up take charge and be a leader. Public office can always lead to failure. Hillary has a chance to make her mark on the world stage with the Clinton machine behind her.
This a great opportunity for Hillary.
If she doesn’t take the job Hillary risks becoming another Leahy with small powers in the senate.

Stand up Hillary!..Lead out great nations foreign policy…God will direct and protect you!

There seems to be an irrational exuberance over the possibility that Hillary takes the SOS spot. What gives?

She will be part of Obama’s cabinet and she can hardly act of her own volition. Obama will never let her control anything. She will be told what to do.

This board seems more like a cheer-leading section for Hillary with less concern for the country. Hillary is not even a PUMA.

Hillary blew her chance to go above the fray by backing Obama and setting a new world record for campaign appearances for a former opponent.

“The Clinton white house is back in power?”

This is delusional thinking. We have a left-wing marxist as president hewn right out of the Chicago thug DNC.

Obama is all about keeping power. He’s gonna give it to Richardson, to pander to the Hispanic vote.

Hardcore women in the Democratic party literally have no choice but to vote for the Democrat. They are the expendable, reliable vote. And he knows it.

How many women are lying to themselves about him?
How many women actually believed his BS?
How many women are trained to just automatically hate conservatives, despite the fact that they may have more in common with them than the Democrat?
How many women constantly vote against their interest out of ideology?
How many women are trained to have a knee jerk reaction to Roe v Wade, despite the fact that the Democratic party has yet to pass a law in favor of it and probably never will?

Go on women. Keep believing it. All you have to do is believe that the men will take of it for, that the Democratic party is looking out for you. Keep hoping for it. The truth is that if women do not DEMAND that they listen, they will never listen. It’s a learned helplessness. So continue to be helpless.

There’s no doubt that Hillary would make an outstanding SOS. We simply do NOT trust Barkys motives. He’s proven time and time again…especially when it come to the Clintons that HE IS A SNAKE.

Furthermore, as SOS she would be subordinate to the POTUS and he can fire her at will as well as blame her for his bad decisions.

Who wants to end up like Colin Powell or Condileeza Rice?? Hillary is way above them and deserves better.

So we are suddenly concerned with what is best for the country. Sounds like what is best for Hillary to me. She should have not helped Obama win the WH.

Now that would have been best for the country.

I’ve been thinking about this. I don’t like the disrespect Senator Clinton has received from this crew when she continues being one of the hugest Team Players. The others throw it out like it means something if they say it, but don’t deliver in action (as always).

I softened a bit to say if she no longer wanted to be in the Senate, the SOS was a powerful position.

BUT, I just don’t want her being USED by these folks anymore. I don’t want her to do it. Yes, I know it would be good for Obama. She would make HIM look better than he is. But he does not deserve that and in the end, when HE fails, she will have HIS stench on her.

So, after careful consideration, I agree, like when I got mugged by a group of boys, RUN, RUN HARD AND FAST AWAY FROM THEM. They NEED you, you don’t need them. Stay in the Senate, as opposed to losing your career once you accept his cabinet position, and pass what you want to pass Hillary. Determine your future on your time line. You helped Bambi enough, you don’t need to take his 3AM call too!

LOL – you got it!! Thanks for the clip! (“Attack! Attack! Attack!!…Run Away! Run Away!!”)

Northwest Rain, it sounds like you and OIAF need to get together!! OIAF’s documentary is truly outstanding – and extremely difficult to watch. It is haunting, and distressing, but incredibly valuable. I, for one, would really like to know what happened where you are NW Rain really!

OIAF – that is GREAT news abt the caucus fraud hearings! I am so, so glad your documentary was shown. And how telling that the Obots complained abt it. They are not into accountablility, you see.

Thanks, JMM and others! I appreciate it.

Cahill – I hear ya. And honestly, as we all know, it is up to Hillary ultimately, if she is offered the job. I just don’t trust Obama, especially since he ran a campaign on misogyny and sexism. For her to have to be working for HIM is just painful to contemplate.

Type – nice rant!! Love it!

I know people can see this as a way to maintain some credibility in the world, but frankly, I am so tired of the strong, competent woman having to come in and rescue the less qualified man. It would be a good instance of karma for Obama to have to sink or swim on his own…The country (more or less – with the help of fraud and the MSM) elected him, so if he screws up our country, well, they have to deal with the repercussions. McCain just lost an election because of Bush’s actions, and Obama would have to be held accountable as well…

I’ll stop now! GREAT comments, folks – NQ has the BEST readers!!

Does anybody think the Clinton saga is a ploy by the Obama campaign and the MSM to get attention off the ineligiblity of Obama being president by the lawsuits that are all happening against him?

I do. Alan Keyes and the CA electors who vote in the electoral college have issued a lawsuit asking for Obama to provide proof of his natural born citizenship status and debunk issues with him being Kenyan born and an Indonesian citizen by adoption.

I do hope Obama goes with the Judas – those backstabbers deserve each other.

And with BO there are nefarious motives always at hand, and the most foul of treachery.

My take is this: BO floats the potential Sec of State as Clinton – she is subsequently denied due to her own and Bill’s “baggage” (as we have seen in news ‘reports’). Whereupon, Obama can look like the good guy and Clinton has once again done herself in through her own actions. BO’s sorry azz comes out smelling clean.

Run away indeed – as far from the fraud BO as possible.

Only Hillary can save us now? Yikes.

Spot on. Teddy and Caroline did a fine job of further tarnishing the Kennedy brand.

Winston,
I have been talking like you all week until I realized that Hillary can be the counter to this left lurch to Marxism. I don’t want to sacrifice Hillary but this is about saving our country.
Hillary is a patriot like Bill and McCain.

We need to stop this rush to defeat for America… I’m now seeing Hillary as the firewall

I think they just want Hillary out of the Senate. As Secretary of State, she serves at the pleasure or the president. She could be fired a day after she resigns her seat.

How can anyone here think that Fraudbama would offer Hillary the job without some sick, deranged ulterior motive?

Because they are delusional. They think Hillary is superhuman and can single handedly turn the whole Obama administration around by serving as a member of his cabinet.

We all know Hillary is brilliant and a savvy politician. I pray she sees through Obama’s offer and rejects it. He will try to blame her for anything/everything that goes wrong relating to foreign relations when she takes it. Please Hillary . . . read between the lines!

I really want Hillary to be SOS. Well, I really want Hillary to be POTUS, but that is over. I think she has dirt on Odrama and he wants to give her something bug. I don’t think she would take it if she knows he can F her over with it. Like I said, she’s got dirt. I think if she takes it, she’s golden because he wouldn’t dare fire her or she blows him out of the water. I think she wants to keep an eye on things because he is a weirdo. I’d love to see Richardscum shut out completely. He would deserve it. I think Odrama wants Hillary because he has seen that she will do what she is told as seen after he screwed her over in the primary, but Hillary is no dummy. If she didn’t want it she would have said no already.

She has to keep us safe and that is probably her best way to do so.

Man this is the best post I have read in a long time. It has an angry tone but expresses my sentiments exactly. This is, in part, how Obama got elected.

This is a question for all of you..

I here alot about whether Hillary will be stabbed in the back or how she should run from Obama and stay away etc…

Remember what you stand for!!!

Women need to be strong and take the abuse if they want to have ultimate power. Sure there is a risk that Obama will abuse her..
So What!

Hillary is strong enough to take any abuse.. Now’s the time to stand up and fight and not worry about getting stabbed in the back.

Fearlessness…That’s how women will become the leaders of this world.

Hillary will upstage Obama every step of the way.

yep it’s probably as simple as his habit of plagerizing (spell that)

he’s a habit based carbon unit (or so I’ve read) having had many addictions that he’s “supposedly” had to QUIT

Deval may have said it was ok to USE his material but not many of us buy that wormy excuse.

I’ll say – rock ON, Uppity!!

A whole bunch of great rants going on here…

Like I said above, don’t forget how Obama blames EVERYTHING on his STAFF. He never takes blame for ANYTHING (e.g., “oh, my staff filled out that questionnaire, not me!!” “Um, my handwriting? Uh, um, uh…”). You better believe he would blame Clinton in a heartbeat – even for stuff not in her purview, oh you know it’s true!

Seattle, normally I agree with your posts, but this time I have to disagree. I don’t see how Hillary can counter anything with Obama. She will work under him, not as an equal. Why would Obama suddenly start listening to Hillary? He’ll have many others whispering in his ear I’m afraid.

1 Hillary does a good job….Obama takes the credit.

2 Hillary follows his foreign policy and things go to Hell….. Obama blames her and fires her just in time for the next election.

3 Either way Hillary loses….RUN GIRL RUN…FAR AWAY.

Congratulations to Senator Hillary Clinton if she accepts the offer. However, one would think Mr. Obama should let her remain in the US Senate, and guard against having an inexperienced/unknown replacement Democrat losing that senate seat to a Republican should Mrs. Clinton accept the offer of US Secretary of State.

Al

Senator Clinton should just STOP HELPING HIM!

wait a minute Seattle think about this

those PEOPLE that bought and paid for this election (of which I agree a lot of that was done) THOSE people do NOT want Hillary nosing around the White House so SHE would have a target on her back from day ONE

I don’t think for a minute she is a super woman. She’s just a very smart and clever woman but human not magic or endowed with some “special” powers.

you really want Hillary up there like that? I don’t. I have too much respect and admiration for her (and healthy caution)

I realize that she will be working under Obama… It’s going to be a long four years. The Senate is a dead end for Hillary.

This way she is on the world stage at a critical moment which could go good or bad, That’s the risk but as a patriot worth taking.

I want to see Hillary talking with Iran and Pakistan and shuttling diplomacy for all the world to see.
Hillary is articulate and beautiful and has the ability go beyond anyone to protect America’s position in the world. Hillary is also a hawk in the Goldwater tradition which means that she won’t give an inch to dictators.

I agree with you Seattle, I am very excited about the idea, we need her in this role, and her being offered the role gives me a new hope for the incoming Administration

we have to live in the world as it is and hope and work for how we want it to be, and I will be OVERJOYED to have Hillary representing us to the world, and especially to protect Israel

it is perfectly clear from Reid and Kennedy’s refusal to give HRC a subcmte on Health that the intent is for Baucus to help shephard thru under Kennedy’s leadership a UHC bill as a legacy for Teddy and he wants HRC to have no part in it

as a junior Senator who has just been denied any sbcmte chair she has decades to earn seniority in her seat

On the other hand she can help millions of people NOW as SoS, many more than she can as Jr Sen frm NY

also Paterson may not be reelected, in fact likely not, as a NYC girl gone West I say that our NY Gov seat goes GOP more often than not and word is Rudy will run,

so it also makes sense to get someone apptd to her seat now by Paterson who can then run in 10 to keep that seat Democratic

The SoS is perfect not only b/c of HRC’s innate talent and instincts in the area and her background of course, but it is in fact ideal to expand her resume for 16 were she so minded,

foreign affairs experience over stale Senate votes to be used against her, she will NOT run against Obama in 12 she is to loyal as everyone should see

and before anyone throws Powell around as an example of it being harmful to her, I say Kissinger stature and everyone I know still LOVED Powell until he endorsed teh one, and Hillary would resign before she pulled a powell at the UN, if she believes the intelligence, she will act acocrdingly just as she did in her AUMF vote, and I think she did the right thing there and the Admin went awry

so we have the chance for HRC to help women all over the world, and the rest of us, to be a firm moderate yet hawkish for Israel voice in the clamor of Susan Rice et al if a Biden predicted attack comes to pass and Obama needs to make the hard decisions quickly

yes all for the good

I pray it happens

dawnelle do you doubt that over half the Senate is against her with as you describe it, a target on her back and blocking her ability to meaningfully contribute to national policy? I dont, it had been evidenced by the failure to give her a sbcmt chair in health policy or a seat at Teddys big table on UHC..

on the other hand on the world stage she is loved and admired and able to represent us and work for us and people of the world without being surrounded by carping old bitter white men

I am all for it

W00T!

Don’t you think that undermining Hillary also undermines the Obama administration.

I believe Obama wants to succeed and if Hillary is chosen will be allowed to succeed.

The Honeymoon is already almost over. Americans are angry and want effective change. Obama is not going to risk failure by appointing Hillary and then allowing people to destroy her. In fact I believe he will protect her if appointed.

Yes, but what if Obama won’t let Hillary be Hillary? Nothing in what I’ve seen of his character leads me to feel confident that he will let her do the job the way she sees fit. He is not a confident man. He is a narcissist and will feed his own hungry ego at any expense.

As sec of state she works at the pleasure of the potus. She will not have power to set her agenda. I’m sick of seeing magnificent and capable women being used and abused.

I agree about Richardson and the Hispanic vote.

Also, as we have seen, women will all too often side with the misogynist male, while themselves attacking their fellow woman. Sad but true.

if she does accept, there should be a quid pro quo that NY Gov. Patterson appoints bill Clinton to her senate seat then she sould accept -country first,

first tell me if YOU are a woman

to advise me on how to be one

you are absolutely right; the obamacrats learned an important lesson from this election: you can win an election by being the party of blacks and hispanics (and maybe muslims, as well).

let me be clear, i support equal rights and respect for ALL, (all who SHOW equal respect for others, anyway), but the problem is, the aforementioned groups have historically not been especially supportive of women’s rights, gay rights, or religious freedom.

so if the dem party puts their agenda in the top priority, it will put the party in a hostile position to these other groups, and create an inherent conflict. what this election showed was that women in particular are willing to be disrespected and have their issues ignored and they will still vote democrat. this is a dangerous precedent. there MUST be consequences for the obamacrat party or they will do the same thing again next time. why wouldn’t they? it WORKED.

I agree with everything Seattle Moss says. I want Hillary representing me around the world. And maybe she’ll finally get the respect she deserves.

(here at home).

The fact that Hillary got up and cheered our troops at the state of the union while Obama sat on his hands wishing defeat speaks volumes about her courage and patriotism to this country.

Wow what courage, to stand up and cheer our troops? Incredible. She is truly amazing. No one could have done that better. And with the cameras rolling she exerted amazing fortitude and shear bravery. She should get a medal. No two medals.

Meanwhile all the troops did was risk their lives.

By the way didn’t she call General David Petraeus a liar? You know the guy the made the surge work in Iraq.

And didn’t the Clinton’s loathe the military and gut the defense budget when they had power?

I’m still conflicted on this one. But I agree with you, Seattle Moss. I don’t see Hillary Clinton getting kicked around or sitting on her hands as SOS. In contrast, Bill Richardson has proven himself a suck up. And God knows, we’re going to need competent and knowledgeable people running these cabinet posts for the next 4 years because all our asses are on the line.

If Hillary is offered the job and takes it, I’m sure she’ll have weighed the pros and cons from every angle. The foreign press is already saying she’d be an enormous plus. At the end of the day, I trust her judgment. And I’ll support her decision either way.

But that won’t keep me from wincing about “what might have been.”

The only history of protection we have is Obama protecting himself. Have you checked under the bus lately. Even his relatives have been tossed aside without, seemingly, a second thought. I do not trust him, nor those around him.

No he needs to use her and then BAM GONE..

Obama needs as much help as he can get. we ALL need him to be a successful president for our country’s sake -these are very trying times and we cannot afford for him to fail. I as many here know have Many issues with Obama- Ayers ET Al. but there is too much at stake here to root for him to fail. I have kids we need to moderate his choices as much as possible with good appointments to his cabinet. Richardson is a buffoon who will seriously damage our nation as Secy. of state. It has to be H.Clinton

Never underestimate Hillary Clinton.

She is brilliant and a very skillful and astute stateswoman.

If she becomes SOS she will be the one who sets the pre-conditions with the little man who likes to tell us he wants to nuke us and Israel….she will set the tea party up for Obama to meet with the little man.

But remember, Hillary, while running for president told the world that if Iran harms the US, Israel, or any of our allies, she will wipe his ass off the face of this earth.

Hillary will be the respected face of this country, not Obama. Obama will just become the position.

I say go for it Hillary, but watch your back because we all know the world will respect and trust you and they will not respect or trust Obama.

Some things to ponder with all due respect to my fellow NQers:

Please recognize you still may be stuck in campaign mode, so judgment may need time to adjust to this non-campaign mode reality.

Have you thought to yourself you are missing some fundamental truth to everything that has transpired?

If you are answering yes then a tremendous opportunity exists for fundamental real change, not to be confused with the nauseating campaign mantra change from the propagandists.

Getting to the thread topic: I should be concerned who is the next SOS, but with the dummkopf Opampers at the helm I don’t expect a good decision. And I will no longer defend Hillary. She made the choice to jump on board the Titanic as a passenger. Whether or not she joins the crew is her problem and she will have to live with the decision. Sure, it might be better for the US if she is SOS. I’ll leave this to her and a higher power.

EXACTLY EXACTLY EXACTLY my thoughts. Exactly.

Don’t do it, Hillary. Don’t risk your Senatorship and career. Let Richardson fail and get fired.

Rev Amy
This is so absolutely true. As I said in another post, this is all bs. He did the same thing with the VP slot after the primaries and it was all over the media, “Will Hillary be offered the VP position and will she take it?” Remember that crap–he is such a soulless, detached liar–I get nauseous thinking of him and that horrible angry, white hating spouse of his in the WH–Clinton would never accept a position under this NOTHING, he’s using this whole schtick to once again make it seem like he’s offering her something, when will this nation wake up from this nightmare?

I agree that Obama is slime but I feel that he is desperate for leadership now that he has magically won. Obama is looking around and realizes that he is in deep over his head.

Can’t agree with you, Seattle Moss. I think The Pretender believes all the hype he’s been tossing out about himself all these years, and I don’t for one second think he’s realizing he’s in over his head. Narcissists don’t doubt themselves, they blame everyone else if something doesn’t go their way. And that’s exactly what he’d do if Hillary were SoS.

I honestly believe there is no malice involved with wanting Hillary.

The Pretender doesn’t do anything without an agenda that benefits himself. Regardless of whether or not Hillary would be a great SoS (and we all know she would be), by accepting that position she ends her political career. She serves at the pleasure of The Pretender. She has no autonomy, she must represent him and his wishes, no matter what she personally feels. And she takes the fall if any of his decisions are the wrong ones.

In the Senate, she still has some power, even if she has to fight her colleagues for it. She can hold The Pretender accountable, she can fight back, she can disagree, she can stir things up. She can be the voice of the people. She may never get the chance to be President (she’ll never run against an incumbent Democrat in 2012, she’s too much a party loyalist for that) but she may very well be Senate Majority Leader.

I hope she does NOT accept the job if offered to her. It would be the kiss of death for her.

Since when does a woman have to take abuse to prove her strength? As a woman, it’s my belief that a woman who refuses to be abused, who turns away from abuse, and who fights against it, is a woman stepping into her power!

Hillary will not upstage The Pretender, he will not allow it. As SoS, Hillary will not be representing the American people, she will be representing The Pretender. As SoS, Hillary will not be making her own choices and decisions, she serves completely and absolutely at the pleasure of the president and must do his bidding.

Hillary will have NO power as SoS. She will have much more power as a Senator. THAT’s why they want her out of the Senate, they’re afraid of her!

Preach it, sister! I totally agree, Rev. Amy.
And a good case in point is to look at Condi Rice, a PhD, a is supposedly brilliant woman. But, because she ran with that Bush crowd and said what they told her to say, she has become a cartoon character. And we don’t want Hillary to have to eventually end every press conference with : “Th-Th-Th-Th-That’s All, Folks!!” do we?

Seattle Moss:

I hope Hillary takes the job of SOS. The main reason I was comfortable with Hillary despite a defeatist, leftist, wave the white flag democrat party is because she is a pragmatist and a moderate and would do the right thing regardless of popular opinion.

Secretary of State does not make policy. Secretary of State has little autonomy. She would have to DO the bidding of The Decider who Decides (whoever that may be) or resign.

totally agree with that

Hillary’s taking any cabinet position under BO is the kiss pf death. He wants her out of the way, especially since he’s counting on having his 60 majority in the Senate and he wants someone he can absolutely control in her place. His ballot counters are busy at the moment making up the dem ballots in AK and in MN. He also has his people busy in GA. This is going to be such a lopsided administration, that the civil rights we have left after Bush will be entirely wiped out. There will be nothing left of the Constitution.
And as soon as BO gets Hillary out of the Senate, he can fire her. It is obvious he uses people, and he has used and abused Hillary. She would be crazy to accept anything from him. His offer is another Trojan Horse.

it’s a trap

and am I mistaken or does it seem more women want Hillary to NOT take the job and more men want her to take it and think the only way to get ahead is to suffer abuse? Do men suffer abuse on the way to the top? Or are they the DELIVERERS of the abuse on the way up?

just curious

“Can I just say, from the outset, that to have it come down to her, the best presidential candidate we have had in DECADES, and that assholic Judas Iscariot, is insulting in and of itself.”

exactly.

Yea, I had a job once where I was a lot smarter than my boss, and I accomplished a lot of great things. Every month he would take my reports to the board of directors and present them as his. My accomplishments became his. And his screwups became mine. I was able to resign before they fired me, but it all amounted to the same thing. I did the work, he took the credit. He made mistakes, I took the fall.

But with Hillary and BO it will be on a level a thousand times, hell a million times, more devastating to her and her political future than this job was to me and my career.

Good point, Dawnelle. The ones who want Hillary to take the job are the ones who’ll be delivering the abuse.

What’s wrong with THAT picture!?

Does BO trust himself?

It is an elegant (Rovian?) double bind.

Of course should she be offered it and refuse the position, the Detraction Machine will have a great time saying it proves she is more ambitious than patriotic, and too whatever to serve, in addition to having a grudge.

Less a Trojan horse than a Borgia gift box. In either case beware the bearers.

yea and there’s that too

jez
furrrrrrrrrrget it

SeattleMoss

And just like GWB did to Colin Powell she may be sitting in her office doing administrative duties only.

GWB would not allow Powell to travel outside of the U.S. for the longest tme. Until he stood up at the U.N. and lied us into a war as directed by Cheney and GWB Powell was left outside the circle by himself.

After the presentation and until the end of the first Bush term he wasn’t permitted to be involved in anything significant. Then he was rudely fired to make room for Condi.

This could happen to Hillary. After all Obama is LIKE GWB and Cheney.

And I am torn about this position because I too would feel better but…yes the but , she can only do what he allows and he can fire her when ever he wants.

Winston,
I don’t get it buddy..I guess you think sitting on your hands wishing defeat is more honorable. Where I come from if the troops are succeeding you give them some honor.
Maybe you’re just stuck on stupid like the rest of your blame America crowd.
Hillary got up and clapped despite the rabid leftists who wish and pray for America’s defeat.
That is courage and it probably cost her the nomination.
At least I know what side your on now!

As for Clinton cutting back on defense.
Look at the history dude..America was omnipotent in the world after the fall of the soviet union and entered a period of restructuring after the end of the cold war.

I agree. I think this is a way to get her out of the way. As soon as Biden’s “test” comes along, Hillary will be expected to save the day, then blamed for the whole situation, then fired. And every damned thing that vomes along from then on will somehow be her fault. Or Bill’s. Because it is always Bill Clinton’s fault.

You’re petty and small.
Not a big thinker!

I don’t think I have ever quite met a commenter who spammed off-topic as much as you. You completely disregard every single topic, after the authors bust their butts to write for you. Please consider a bit more courtesy and use the open threads for your off topic ‘emergencies”. Maybe you don’t realize it, but it’s just. plain. rude.

Hillary and Obama both shared different view on the war and terrorist so how is this going to work now if she becomes SOS? Will he take her advice or will she have to do as he says, it will be interesting to see what happens and if anything messes up along the way am sure we all know whose fault it will be.

The only good thing about Hillary as SOS is it would serve those Sharia pricks in the middle east right to have a deal with a woman– when they are more interested in shooting them in the head, gang banging them and then committing “honor” murders because a raped woman shamed the family.

This is not a campaign any longer. Any failure especially in foreign policy ultimately lies with the sitting president. The fact that Obama is bring so many of the former Clinton people should be a good indicator as to the foreign policy.

Seattle,

Obama is no Marxist, he’s an Opportunist. Hillary should tread very carefully. This SOS appointment is floating on quicksand.

She cannot hold her senate seat and be SOS at the same time. It is simply not legal. You cannot be an elected official and work for the same government you represent. You either stay in office or you resign and work for the government as an employee.

Senator Clinton should just STOP HELPING HIM

!

So absolutely true. He will screw her whether she helps him or not.He is a vindictive bastard. You can just tell.

You are right wod. I think he’s in Holy Shit Now What Do I Do mode. And he’s not going to take his own rap for mistakes he makes.

Sometimes you have to just put differences aside and do the right thing for the country.
Hillary cares more about the country than her senate job.
I think she would be superb and as much as I agree with all of you about Obama’s inner self I believe that he is forced to have to govern from the center.
The Clinton’s will make sure of that!!

I’m with you, Winston!

She should have not helped Obama win the WH.

Now that would have been best for the country.

But that’s not the reality..So what next.

What could have
would have
should have
is over.

Obama is President elect…Hillary can help to make sure he stays a moderate. The rest of the Clinton machine can help in that end.

I want Obama to succeed..Failure is not an option for this country!!!!

I just looked at the selective service records of my two oldest sons. Both numbers have 10 digits starting with the years of their births, 62 and 63. Both came through the Great Lakes, IL address. I’m wondering why Obama’s record, in question, relates to whether it reports his number “being generated” in 1980 the year he would have been 18 instead of his birth year.(or in 2008 fraudulently).

He had all of the Clinton people in his campaign and it didn’t change one thing for Hillary. They and Obama aren’t in this to help anyone but themselves.

Secretary of State is a good move. The senate is almost fillibuster proof. The Republicans in the house can hardly get a quorum by themselves so there will be nothing but lockstep in the legislative branch.

Why not go around the world. The State department is the top gig in any country.

Just because Colin Powell and Condi Rice were lap dogs, they were also Republicans which is the obligatory lap-dog, follow-the-leader, sell-your-soul requirement of all Republicans.

Obama is your typical dog chasing a bus, and he finally caught the bus, only now the question is…what to do with it now that he’s caught it.

He’s on the world stage and the curtains are opening. He’s literally peeing in his pants. Obama knows he needs all the help he can get, including the Clintons and most of Bill’s administration.

The BBC thinks so:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7730485.stm

Deep truths
Very well said..I agree totally!

Does not matter what the BBC says. They have their own problems
Britain is not the same as during the Clinton Years.
The world is not the same.
China is almost unrecognizable than 92 -00.
Russia is Putinized.

Clinton era staff will meet almost no one they knew out there.

This is a difficult decision for herto make. I have no trust in hussein obama’s presidency. For me, he by himself is a national security risk. I feel much comfortable if Hillary is inside of this administration and watch was is going on and I am sure she can prevent a disaster. With all that, I still think hussien obama is playing a game with her and this much ado about nothing. Basturd!

And don’t forget, the SOS is a mouthpiece for the POTUS. You don’t get to give your own views if they differ with the POTUS. Just look at Condi Rice… she defended Bush over WMDs and the Iraq war no matter what. This potential SOS position for Hill is nothing more than a way to shut her up, so if Barkie does anything wrong, she won’t be able to criticize him in the senate.

I guess throw your hands up say defeat!!
Or run and hide under a chair.
All people adapt and change

What’s your point??
The Clinton’s are about rational pragmatic thinking no matter what the circumstance.

I will be very surprised if Senator Clinton is seriously offered the job.

I would be not be surprised, if offered, she took Sos. What matters in that equation then would be DOD. Who’s in the drivers seat over there.

Bottomline, the turf battles between these two Departments got people killed.
So if I were the Senator, I would want to know a few things before contemplating a move like that. Politically I don’t see downside. She could just as well run for Gov. of New York.

We don’t always get to pick how we are called upon to act in the breach.
I am not so much distracted by where Senator Clinton will end up. I say this knowing BO is a serial liar. Hillary knows this as well.

It is where each of us can do the most good. I damn sure would I not abondon the field to a un-qualified, compass lacking human. Tobe effective in this situation, it will be “inside basball” as a mandatory requirement.
Pays to be in the loop at that level.

Great read Rev. Amy.

Amy did you see this?

Dunham Service
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081115/NEWS01/811150360/1001/localnewsfront

No Obama is like a flu — it is best to get over the flu as quickly as possible — and then start the recovery process.

Hopefully the GOP can neuter Obama using whatever means they can use as the minority party. Then in 2010 with a huge voter backlash — because there is no way that Mr. promise them anything — can deliver on his promises — then the GOP back in control can impeach O-zero and THEN perhaps the damn fools can learn to work together to clean up the mess?

But then these are the same “voters” who fell for an empty suit lying con man — so I don’t have much hope in the ignorant and gullible voters.

Face it — America is going down the toilet — no leadership, and the Chicago mafia is in control. Can we imagine the whole US turned into a cesspool like Chicago??

The Chicago theme song — Loot, Loot and loot some more. Second verse same as the first.

I think The One is using her. He wants her out of the Senate and if she accepts, he will probably get rid of her at the least provocation, after he has blamed her for everything that has gone wrong. I don’t think The One has magically changed now he’s The One-Elect – I think he’s still a jerk and a misogynyst. Sorry Seattle, I don’t think Hillary should self immolate.

Yes, Dawnelle, I agree with you. I think Hillary has stood up enough. She doesn’t need to continue to roll over for The One. I agree with RRRA, Run, Hillary, as far away and as fast as you can from this horror story. You’ve suffered enough at this Fraud’s hands.

And what happens to Hillary’s once he’s out of office. If she stays in the Senate at least she can stay as long as SHE decides to stay (because I think her constituents love her).

Comment by felizarte | 2008-11-15 19:35:16

I think they just want Hillary out of the Senate. As Secretary of State, she serves at the pleasure or the president. She could be fired a day after she resigns her seat.

Unfortunately, felizarte I do agree with you. Much as I would prefer Hillary as SOS than the sexist back stabbing baffoon of Richardson. She needs to keep her senate seat safe and I truly think she will be more powerful in that seat she is so proud to have – Bobby Kennedy’s seat. And if she manages to get SPEAKER wrested from Reid, that will be a far far better place to be than at the beck and call of Mr. Obama and under his bus when he no longer needs her.

ginaswo:
also Paterson may not be reelected, in fact likely not, as a NYC girl gone West I say that our NY Gov seat goes GOP more often than not and word is Rudy will run,

As a New York girl – you should know that David Patterson was not re-elected or even elected as Governor of New York State – He took over from Eliot Spitzer when he had to stand down over the sex scandal – though Patterson himself had one in his background – but he admitted to it jokingly, which seems to make the difference.

I would expect either Bloomberg or Guiliani to be elected as governor as opposed to Patterson if they so decide to throw their hats in the ring. It could also be a place for Hillary. She would be a good Governor for NY State.

by marble | 2008-11-15 19:04:27

OT – something else to ponder. Please read:

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/11/exclusive_did_n.html

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Comment by BerlinBerlin | 2008-11-15 19:15:22

This Article in connection with the Keyes law suit is going to make a difference.

Yikes – it never stops… the evidence against the legality of Mr. Obama’s run for POTUS is overwhelming and it still goes on and on like the energizer bunny.

The electors who sign into law his legal right to be Potus are putting themselves at risk – maybe somebody should tell them not to sign on December 15th until all evidence that he is legal under the constituion is out there and proven.

I think this is how obama and the dnc plan on getting rid of Hillary….and Bill. They know that the good citizens of NY will continue to vote for Hillary to be their Senator…our Senator. So how can they get her out of the Senate and Congress? Make her SOS and then fire her. Bingo, gone, done. Don’t do it Hillary, save yourself, save us.

Seattle, it’s not like she’ll be breaking any glass ceilings by becoming the Sec. of State. Rememember Madeline Albright and Condi? They’ve already done it for women. We need her in the Senate where we know she can make a difference, not as SOS for 6 months and then down for the count.

If offered, Hillary should absolutely not accept the Secretary of State job, rather give it to the Lounge Lizzard Richardson, the Judas,.– Obama and Axelrod are devious Users, and any position offered to Hillary is with ulterior motives and malice in mind.– Obama personifies “the woman Hater”, he’ll use a woman until she drops. He is never to be trusted by women.

sanosandy – as SOS Hillary would not be representing you. She would be representing Obama. Big difference. (Does Condoleza Rice represent you? No, she represents the Bush administration.) Hillary should not accept the offer. Plus I do not trust Obama on anything. There is a trick here some where, and I fear this would not turn out well at all fir Hillary no matter how brillant she us.

Personally, I hope that Hillary takes the job. The country needs a strong SoS.

As for respect/her feelings/etc., Hillary is a professional politician. She doesn’t react personally to campaign nonsense. It’s just politics, and she’s entirely too seasoned to let it become personal.

This decision should be about what is best for the country and whether she is the right fit for the job.

I cannot imagine why anyone thinks Richardson is appropriate. He seems, to me, to be a loose cannon.

But that’s just my 2 cents.

Can anyone name a SoS who was an elected official?

They are all for the most part academics. Their primary responsibility is to carry the president’s water. HRC would be expected to be no different. She should say THANKS BUT NO THANKS. And not look back. This isn’t an invitation. This is a ticket to the sidelines. imho.

I tend to agree with you Seattle Moss (even as I fight my beliefs BO would sacreifice her in a nanosecond for his own glory or to save his own skin…after all SoS serves “at the pleasure of teh POTUS” in his foreighn policy –not hers–)

But also I keep on thinking: I WANT HRC TO DO WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO. It is her life.Yes, I want her to be and get what I think she deserves. But I also respect the fact she is a very smart woman and know what’s BEST for her and for the country.

I sure hope Hillary doesn’t take this, why should she put her politicial future in the hands of a misogynist who will continue using and destroying her? I agree they want her out of the Senate where she would have real power, and would be in a position to show Obama up.

Let Richardson have it, let him fail, let the whole Obama administration fail, and let Hillary not be there to take the blame. I’d like to watch while a sitting secretary of state gets prosecuted for sexual harassment.

I would be interested to hear what Chris Burns, author of “Deadly Decisions,” and one of the country’s leading authorities on modern information management, would have to say to Hilary- he is a really intelligent guy! All I know is that I would hate to have to make this decision.

When reflecting on Obama’s less than ideal candidacy, its certainly reassuring having so many former Clinton Advisors on board, and I agree, Hillary would certainly be a huge asset to the safety and diplomacy of our country. No other person could examplify the grace and generosity of the USA to the world as well as Hillary Rodham Clinton, Secretary of State.– She would be great!!!