The American public could certainly do with some straight talk and factual information about what the Bush administration actually did. Unfortunately, the people who need it the most are also those the least receptive to the truth. They’re the people who believed what Reagan said about Iran-Contra; they’re the people who believed a guy like Lee Atwater was a patriot and the people he worked for were honorable men; they’re the people who can’t think for themselves, and will swallow the pronouncements of right-wing blowhards hook line and sinker, while dismissing everything else as liberal media lies.

This might get me hammered as a Bush apologist, but I would ask that everyone get real, as soldier4hillary suggested, regarding these “war crimes” charges being made against members of our government and our military personnel, most especially those being made by organizations and persons in other nations. Two points:

1) No entity in today’s world—neither courts nor governments, foreign or American—has the moral standing to charge or try members of the American government or the U.S. military with “war crimes.” Not one. Want an explanation of that? The piece I tried to post earlier is far too long, and yet it only scratched the surface. Do some research on your own. Start with our allies. Try the French government intelligence and counter-intelligence services (I like and respect the French people, BTW). Look up “Rainbow Warrior,” the DGSE-Action Division and its predecessors, Algeria, the Congo, etc. Or even talk with our host, here, who has a background in intelligence.

2) As for what’s the absolute truth behind the Bush administration’s transgressions during the prosecution of the war, do you actually trust that the media has given you the full story? Is this not the same biased media that during this recent election fanned the divisive flames of misogyny and racial suspicion within the electorate while simultaneously covering up for and suppressing all criticism of the candidate who won the election? Is this not the media that blatantly attacked the two female candidates with falsehoods and smears? Is this not the same media that has so vividly demonstrated its bias, its willingness to exaggerate, twist, deny, and in fact, outright LIE to push its own agenda?

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Do some research beyond the sensational books and the media hype, folks. Read a little (not popular) history. soldier4hillary knows what she’s talking about because she’s served in the real world, and I defy anyone to call her a Bush apologist.

Well said.

And as far as all this pro-Bush stuff, one of the things that always worried me was that an 0bama presidency was in place in order to rewrite the Bush legacy. And it’s already happening.

Sorry, but Bush/Cheney are war criminals. And as far as them keeping us safe, it’s already proven the Iraq War has created more terrorists than not. THAT’S A FACT.

Many of the systems put in place after 9/11 would have been done by any president. Frankly, we needed more security regarding baggage and the smuggling of bombs on airplanes and long before the 9/11 terrorists came up with the idea to fly a plane into a skyscraper, enough nuts were getting on board, hijacking planes. After Lockerbie, we really should have cracked down.

There were enough signals going off about the 9/11 terrorists that they should have been nabbed. I still don’t understand how the owner of the flight school these guys went to can sleep at night. He greedily took their money and never once thought to at least phone the FBI and say, these guys worry me, check them out. I mean, come on, a bunch foreigners show up asking to teach them how to steer a plane and that they’re not interested in how to take off and that doesn’t make you scratch your head.

But I think all of this dialogue about Bush/Cheney being punished is fruitless. This is the deal that was made to get 0bama elected. This is among the reasons 10 million Republicans stayed home. This is not going to happen. So forgetaboutit.

No need for everyone to get their heads in a snit. It’s just more subterfuge coming from the 0bama camp to keep our attention off of how he’s really filling the Cabinet.

How many times are you going to let Lucy fool you Charlie Brown?

However, Pelosi took impeachment off the table. So I doubt it would gain any real traction

Also, there are too many other problems, like the economy. We are in deep shit and frankly, as much as I hate to say this, it takes precedence over the Bush/Cheney war crimes.

But the image of a black man doing this will not go over big. It will tip the scales and 0bama really doesn’t want that. He wants 2 terms.

dont be too quick to jump to conclusions about what I may think.

It does not do justice to the process of intellctual inquiry.

Thanks

I wouldn’t ever click on any link you post.

Heaven knows what would happen to my puter.

One of Barack Obama’s earliest supporters-who now , along with others, advises Barack Obama on foreign policy issues, is Z. Brzezinski.

Read what he says about getting the US public to support any war efforts:

“The public supported America’s engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.” He predicts that because of popular resistance to US military expansionism, his ambitious Central Asian strategy can not be implemented, “except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat.”

9/11 proved to be such a threat for many Americans, however Pres Bush used opportunity to go after Saddam Hussein who had nothing to do with this attack.

Joe Wilson and others desperately tried to sound the alarm.

Unfortunately, many are still questioning whether or not 9/11 was an inside job.

I do beleive I will bring Old Glory out of retirement for that one day and indeed, fly her at half mast in mourning for my country and Democracy! Thanks!

They deserve the Hague, not only to bring justice to Iraq and the middle east, but to also restore the rule of law in America.

As difficult as it may be for the nation to face the truth in regard to this matter, the denial harms us more, enabling other Cheneys and other Yoos to pursue crazed ideas of empire, destroying America, in the process.

Thank you.