RSS Feed for This PostCurrent Article

Pakistan, Declaration of War (UPDATE)

* Bumped Up *

A state of war should exist between the United States and the intelligence service of Pakistan. The curtain is pulled back and we now see the malevolent wizard of Oz that sits in Islamabad and feeds and fuels Islamic extremism.

The nation’s top military official said Thursday that Pakistan’s spy agency played a direct role in supporting the insurgents who carried out the deadly attack on the American Embassy in Kabul last week. It was the most serious charge that the United States has leveled against Pakistan in the decade that America has been at war in Afghanistan.

In comments that were the first to directly link the spy agency, the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, with an assault on the United States, Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, went further than any other American official in blaming the ISI for undermining the American effort in Afghanistan. His remarks were certain to further fray America’s shaky relationship with Pakistan, a nominal ally.

The United States has long said that Pakistan’s intelligence agency supports the Haqqani network, based in Pakistan’s tribal areas, as a way to extend Pakistani influence in Afghanistan. But Admiral Mullen made clear that he believed that the support extended to increasingly high-profile attacks in Afghanistan aimed directly at the United States.

These included a truck bombing at a NATO outpost south of Kabul on Sept. 10, which killed at least five people and wounded 77 coalition soldiers — one of the worst tolls for foreign troops in a single attack in the war — as well as the embassy assault that killed 16 Afghan police officers and civilians.

“With ISI support, Haqqani operatives planned and conducted that truck bomb attack, as well as the assault on our embassy,” Admiral Mullen said in a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee. “We also have credible evidence that they were behind the June 28th attack against the Intercontinental Hotel in Kabul and a host of other smaller but effective operations.” In short, he said, “the Haqqani network acts as a veritable arm of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence agency.” His remarks were part of a deliberate effort by American officials to ratchet up pressure on Pakistan and perhaps pave the way for more American drone strikes or even cross-border raids into Pakistan to root out insurgents from their havens. American military officials refused to discuss what steps they were prepared to take, although Admiral Mullen’s statement made clear that taking on the Haqqanis had become an urgent priority.

The same culprits were behind the Mumbai terrorist attack in December 2008. Pakistan, as I have written before, is the the most virulent, deadly sponsor of terrorism and has been for more than twenty years. And this is not just a problem attributable to the Obama Administration. In fact, Ronald Reagan, George HW Bush and George W. Bush refused to deal with this reality because they wanted to pursue other foreign policy objectives. So on this count it is foolish to charge Democrats with being soft of terrorism. I remember back in 1990 trying to make the case that both Pakistan and Greece should have been on the list of state sponsors of terrorism but, because of other “priorities” that position was a non-starter.

If we want to be serious about fighting terrorism then it is time to stop enabling the terrorist sponsors.

UPDATE–Several of you have asked why I included Greece. Back in 1990 (and this continued thru 1999) Greece actively supported the PKK, a terrorist group carrying out attacks in Europe and Turkey. The leader of the PKK, Abdullah Ocalan, was captured in East Africa. He was in the limo of the Greek Ambassador. Greece was more than willing to support a terrorist group that was killing and maiming Turks. And what did the United States do about it? NOTHING! We averted our eyes and pretended it did not matter.

Someone also asked why we suspected Pakistan suppporting terrorists “twenty years ago.” We did not suspect. We knew. They were funding and assisting groups like the Harakat ul-Mujahadin and the Lashkar Tayyiba. Pakistan has been an aggressive supporter of radical Islamic groups and its intelligence service has assisted directly these groups in planning and carrying out terrorist attacks. That damn horse is now out of the barn. Thank God!

  • Anonymous

    Why on earth are we giving them blood money? It seems like we are doing some sort of mafia pay off. I understand this has been going on for years, so everyone on both sides has contributed, but no more ignoring this; it seems more obvious now than it has ever been; open season as it were.

  • elaine

    Larry, Greece????  Please elaborate.

    • Anonymous
      • elaine

        oowawa, Thanks for the walk through Greek/Turkish history. I also took note of yttik’s post further down thread dealing with more current events, however comparing Greece’s level of exported terrorism with that of the ISI just doesn’t make sense to me & without more evedience seems to be an attempt at some sort  of PC.

        Certainly Iran’s activies supercede that of Greece. Guess, with my limited knowledge, I just can’t rank Greece @ # 2.

        • Anonymous

          I think large or small, the country hosting this violence should be treated equally.

      • Anonymous

        Greece has many boats because of all the little Greek Islands that people like to vacation on etc.  They also have little planes to get around the islands with.
        BUT there is also GREEK SHIPPING which has tankers and such carrying oil etc. and these shipping lines are all headquartered in the CITY OF LONDON.
        This is where the insurance for the boat loads of oil etc is also purchased and the OIL COMPANIES have their offices there too.   So, it is an extension of the CITY of LONDON which is where the Rothschild Banking HQ ireigns, and their Inter Alpha Group of Banks and the
        center of the Oligarch’s Monetary System.   The banks that are all going bellyup in the EU are all part of that oligarchy, and our FED has just opened a swap window for the assets of the EU banks so they can be liquid with US dollars, and T. Geithner is still glum, he wants the European Stability Fund to start leveraging their fund at `10 to 1 like the Tarp.   Greece is being attacked at all sides and the quotas for milk and such bean they are prohibited from being self sufficient with their own food production.   Cargil is attacking their cotton industry and saying it will be unfair to Africans who they want to put in business growning cotton.
        It’s a trip………………………………………..

  • William L. Donlon

    Larry Johnson:

    YOU ARE SPOT ON!!!!!

    PAKISTAN GAVE NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY FOR CASH

    Among
    those on the other side of the deals China North Korea, and Iran.

    The charges are contained in two documents
    written by A.Q. Khan, a Pakistani nuclear arms trafficker.

    This is Khan’s Letter to his wife in 2003 —

    The following is a letter from A.Q. Khan to his wife. 

     

    Editor’s notes:

    1) This is a transcription of a handwritten 2003 letter from A.Q. Khan to his wife.

    2) Material in brackets [ ] are clarifications by editor.

    3) Deleted: address, phone number & email for journalist Simon
    Henderson, referenced in original.10/12/2003 [10 December 2003]

     

    Darling,

     

    If the government plays any mischief with me take a tough stand:

     

    (1)You know we had cooperation with China for 15 years. We put up a centrifuge plant at Hanzhong (km250
    south-west of Xian). We sent 135 C-130 plane loads of machines,
    inverters, valves, flow meters, pressure gauges. Our teams stayed there
    for weeks to help and their teams stayed here for weeks at a time. Late
    minister Liu We, V. M. [vice minister] Li Chew, Vice Minister Jiang
    Shengjie used to visit us.

     

    (2)The
    Chinese gave us drawings of the nuclear weapon, gave us kg50 enriched
    uranium, gave us 10 tons of UF6 (natural) and 5 tons of UF6 (3%).

    Chinese helped PAEC Pakistan
    Atomic Energy Commission, the rival organisation to the Khan Research
    Laboratories] in setting up UF6 plant, production reactor for plutonium
    and reprocessing plant.

     

    [Page 2]

     

    (3) Probably with the blessings of BB (Benazi Bhutto)
    & Gen [Aslam] Beg , Gen Imtiaz asked Hashmi [a former colleague of
    AQK] & me to give a set of drawings and some components to the
    Iranians. We had no direct contact and we never sent anybody or received
    anybody. The names and addresses of suppliers were also given to the
    Iranians.

     

    [Note
    in margin] Gave these things through Dr Niazi [Bhutto family dentist
    and confidant, now dead]. Must have got money for it ($1 million).

     

    (4)
    Gen Jehangir Karamat [still alive, chief of army staff 1996-8, sent by
    Musharraf as ambassador to U.S. 2004-2006] took $3 million through me
    from the N Koreans and asked me to give them some drawings and machines.

     

    (5) We sold [conventional] weapons to Libya, Sudan, & Malaysia
    And sent [conventional] weapons to Bosnia. [Khan’s KRL plant also made
    anti-tank missiles and shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles.]

     

    (6) There is proof of all this stashed somewhere safely which will be given to public and press.

     

    [Page 3]

     

    Use
    Major Islam or Hashmi [former colleagues of A Q Khan] and get S M Zafar
    [lawyer of AQK] to take up these matters in court/public.

    Get in touch with Simon Henderson

    [Address, phone numbers, email deleted]

    And give him all the details.

     

    Ask Henk [Slebos, part of Khan’s purchasing network in the Netherlands to get a guy from Telegraaf and give him all the details.

     

    Tell them the bastards first used us and now playing dirty games with us.

     

    Love you

    Khantje [diminutive name used between Khan and his wife]

     

    Get out quickly to Dubai with Tanya [grand-daughter who lives with them] for a while or leave Tanya with Ayesha [daughter who lives in Islamabad].

     

    [Page 4]

     

    I
    believe they want to make me a scapegoat as Mr Wajid Shamsul Hassan
    (former HC [high commissioner] in London) had warned in an article (with
    Major Islam).

     

    They might try to get rid of me to cover up all the things (dirty) they got done by me in connection with Iran Libya & N. Korea.

     

    This is just to forewarn you.

     

    A Q Khan

     

    Dr A Q Khan
    NI & Bar, HI

     

    • Anonymous

      Could you please reference the source of the letter ?

      Thank you

      • William L. Donlon

        Fox News is breaking this story with several other Documents right now.

        Fox news had a broadcast at 10P.M. tonight 9/24 and will repeat at 1:00 A.M. 9/25 About 10 min from now.

        They are using A.Q. Khan’s 2003 letter to his wife that I posted above.

        FOX also has an I.S.I. report that I can’t access or I’d post it. 

        Question??

        The Khan 2003 Letter and 2003 Confession have been out there for a while on the circuit

        Why are they being pushed at the MSM & Fox NOW????

        And by whom??

        Larry Johnson’s article above hits it right on the head

        The attack on the U.S Embassy in Afghanistan was AN ACT OF WAR AGAINST AFGHANISTAN.

        All U.S. Embassies are not sovereign territory of the United States government and It’s People.

        The Host Country and it’s laws reign supreme.

        All United States Embassies are defended by the U.S. Marines.

        But, — If a crime is committed in the U.S. Embassy, it is the Host Country Police, who with permission of the U.S. Ambassador, enter and make the Arrest.

        Even Iran in 1989, stopped short of firing on our Embassy when the Revolutionary Guards stormed it.

        President Elect Reagan let them know that when he took office, he would deal with the matter of the hostages as an act of war — with the gloves off.

        Iran released them one hour after the Gipper took the oath.

        The I.S.I runs the Extremist groups in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

        With the threat of the Extremist groups, The I.S.I. runs Pakistan and The Pakistan Army.

        They arrest any and all Taliban aNd tribal elders who talk peace to Americans and Afghanies.

        Just last week they killed the Afghan Chief Negotiator and several of his aids.

        They fire bombed NATO’s fuel trucks three times in the last 18 months.

        i.s.i. IS BEHIND ALL OF THIS, AND MUCH, MUCH MORE.

        The Army and the Pakistan Government are scared to death of the I.S.I.

        I.S.I. wants and is working very hard for a Nuclear confrontation with India.

        This is China’s backyard folks.

        Time for the Chi-Coms to step up and for the U.S to come home.

    • Anonymous

      Good heavens.    Where is the State Department, where is Congress, where is the DOJ and where are the American People when you need them.   We have so much info. at our fingertips but it is just flailing away out there in cyber space, how can so much be out there and we can’t even get some dinero to FEMA for our disaster victims………………….
      It’s like having all the ingredients but no cake………………………

  • catherine

    This was a problem a long time coming. Pakistan is a major sponsor of terrorism and some even believe that the ISI gave birth to the original Taliban.Unfortunately, they are a very reactionary and anti Western society. Just look at the huge social and security problems the massive influx of Pakistanis have created in the UK.

  • Anonymous

    So why are is the UN even slightly contemplating the thought of letting these guys into the UN.

  • Anonymous

    Mexico could attack the US, and with our military spread all over the world, we’d have no defense.  Scary.
    .

    • Propertius

      Mexico would never attack the US. Without the ATF, where would they get the weapons? ;-)

    • Anonymous

      Sure they could, Fast and Furious is one source of weaponry for the cartels, someone mentioned that Zeta was hoping to overthrow the Mexican Government so the beat goes on.
      Until the cartels, the banking cartels, the drug cartels, and the oligarchs themselves are behind bars the world is a ghetto.
      Denis Kucinich just got his NEED Act of 2011 off the press, he is on the right track, Lord give him supernatural power to get it passed.    We just reached FLUX CITY.

  • Propertius

    I’ve been waiting for you to weigh in on this, Larry. Thanks as always!

    Any chance you could elaborate on Greece?

  • Tamminator

    Let Greece go bankrupt, and bomb Pakistan. 
    Okay, that’s just wistful thinking. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4L4GL7QOPBASIVI53K2VEQZOY4 Hank

    I was just at Target and noticed a new brand dENIZEN made by Levi Strauss.  I checked to see where they were manufactured….GUESS WHERE!!!!       PAKISTAN……I almost peed on my pants…

  • Anonymous

    I heard about this on the radio today and could not believe it.

    I’m not expecting Obama to do anythng about this at all even if there were not other foreign policy crisis going on right now.

  • Anonymous

    Just watching “Fair Game”.  Nuff said.

    So begging the question Obama said on the trial in 2008 that Pakistan was more dangerous than Iran…does it make much of a difference? If the the Adrimal is on public record and the Pakistani reaction to this was not one that inspired “peace, being hard work”, what is to be done to stop the ISI from such behavior and in the context, where does the ISI fit in the nuclear chain of command?

  • Anonymous

    Larry,
    “Pakistan, as I have written before, is the the most virulent, deadly
    sponsor of terrorism and has been for more than twenty years.”

    Could you please elaborate on why you suspected the Pakis
    20 years ago, and why the U.S. continues with this strange relationship ?

    Your response would be much appreciated.

    Thank you

    • Anonymous

      Pakistan is a country where terrorism originates? Or is incubated?  Word has it they have nuclear weapons of mass destruction, as does Israel.  How on earth is this possible, did they get them from the USA, can they launch them?  Seems like someone has some ‘splainin’ to do.    Anyone out there………………

  • William L. Donlon

    Larry Johnson:

    Again — You are SOn And Ahead Of The Curve.

    There is a News Special on Fox News at this hour. 10P.M. 9/24/11

    It will be repeated at 1;00 A.M. 9/25/11

    The Special is covering the Nuke Tec. For Cash by Pakistan.
    with Clients, China, Iran, Libya, North Korea and Sudan.

    It has been going on for over 25 years.

    Well Documented.

     

  • Geoff C. The Saltine

    Larry, I don’t see P. Clinton on this list, did he go after them? Or was he tied up somewhere else. Bosina maybe? So as I see  your post everyone but Clinton did nothing. What if anything did he do? And where in all of this is our SOS, in these most dire of times why is she not taking the lead on this? And yes I know that they have nukes. But its time to call them on all of their terrorism ties or let India deal with them. 

    • catherine

      I think what Larry was trying to indicate was that this situation with Pakistan has been a bipartisan headache including all the way back to Reagan and not just under Democrats. ALL administrations and both parties have failed to properly address this problem for nearly 3 decades.

      As for our SOS, I seem to recall how shortly after she was sworn in she did tell the Pakistanis to their face and very publicly that someone in Pakistan knew where OBL was hiding.  

  • Anonymous

    “a state of war with Pakistan”—how depressing! The world’s economy is imploding as revolts are raging across the Middle East.
    I watched an interview with John Guandolo, former FBI Special Agent, who said the Arab Spring was ” a knowable and predictable event”.
    It is certainly “predictable” that the foremost official response is to funnel funds to groups who are overtly hostile to American security.
    During the observance of the tenth anniversary of  9/11, the death of Osama Bin Laden seemed distant, as I regretfully acknowledged the world my grandchildren will experience for decades.

  • yttik

    I don’t know exactly what reasons Larry has for wanting Greece on the list of state sponsors of terrorism, but they do have quite a bit of far left terrorism activities of their own going on, anarchists, anti-US, anti European union types. Besides assorted other bombings they did attack the US embassy in Athens in 2007.

    Greece is also an entry and transit point for Islamic fundamentalist networks. It’s probably a recruitment base, a hub. Greece is kind of preoccupied at the moment, there’s organized crime, indigenous terrorism, a collapsing economy, and porous borders. It’s a perfect sanctuary for terrorists, just based on geography alone.

  • Anonymous

    Just an anecdote.  I talked to my old hermit brother yesterday.  He lives out in the woods and has long been “psychic” as well as “out there.”  He does not follow the news or have any political orientation.  He doesn’t have a television.  Anyway, he told me “I’ve been having all these horrible dreams lately.  I dream about this huge war going on somewhere over in India.  It’s so horrible I wake up and can’t get back to sleep.  I don’t know why I’m having all of these dreams all of a sudden….”

    • Anonymous

      Yes oowawa, there is a disturbance in the force. I wish your brother a restful sleep….he is not  alone in the dreams…

  • HELENK

    http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/tre78o1ki-us-pakistan-usa-graham/

    Linsey Graham on Pakistan.

    India was divided and the Muslims were given their own country. There is still no peace with these people. I do not think there ever will be, they do not want peace.

  • Anonymous

    The next shoe drops.
    Afghanistan warns Pakistan against border fighting.

    “KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) – Afghan defense officials warned Pakistan on Sunday to stop firing rockets and heavy artillery into the northeast of the country or the military will respond with force. Pakistan denied it was responsible.

    Odd chess board to manage.
    India and Pakistan relations are not well. Americans and Afghans are on the other border with “credible evidence” of Pakistan’s proxy caught red handed. Nothing like a paranoid nuclear state. So if Pakistan shatters, are we to stop sending in missile strikes?
    While these pieces on the board are tied up Iraq is an Iranian satellite state and again the US has it’s pieces pinned in a pawn for a bishop swap. So are what the relations of Pakistan and Iran like currently?
    Not to bad…
     The two leaders agreed to boost bilateral trade to $10 billion. 09/13/11-Currently trade volume between the two countries is $1.2 billion, with Pakistan’s exports around $200 million. In addition, both leaders agreed to expedite the gas pipeline project as well as the import of 10,000 megawatts to Pakistan.
    http://politact.com/issue-brief/pakistan-and-iran-to-cooperate-on-afghanistan-trade-and-energy.html
    Looks to me that any long term forecast is not good with the US getting to the proxy swamp. Trying to add the Palestinian Israeli front and the “Arub Sprung” in the rest of the region and the war in Mo’ mar….
    If the US is at a state of war with a two timing state like Pakistan is  then that make Iraq,Lybia, Afghanistan a precursor. If Pakistan is not to allow incursions into the Northern territories and Iran’s and Pakistani intelligence services are co-operating in a “It wasn’t us” MO, then taking action on any of this will destabilize the region even further, if that is even possible.
    All politics is tribal in these lands and our foreign policy under the Obama administration has gone postal. No zip code …return to sender

  • Craig Della Penna

    With you 100% on this one LJ, as is Chris Hitchens

    http://www.slate.com/id/2304641/

  • Anonymous

    Quote:
               ” We did not suspect. We knew. They were funding and assisting groups like the Harakat ul-Mujahadin and the Lashkar Tayyiba.”

    Who was funding the Pakis’, then ?

    I only got a ” Green badge “, Larry ?

  • Anonymous

    So much money is made from the opium trade in Afganistan but that is very rarely talked about,   Is there any connection between the US presence there and the drug running.   Karzai seems like a slippery character and is associated with drug lords, yet he is meant to be our ally.   We give money to both countries, Afganistan and Pakistan who seem ungrateful at best, but maybe the US is rather a hard partner to swallow.   Anyone out there with an explanation of the situation.We the people are waiting…………………………………..