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Science Marches On…

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Editor’s Note: Craig’s post is the first in a new series about science. Given Craig’s sharp writing abilities and his encyclopedic brain, we should be in for a treat every week. Enjoy the first.

Below the fold: China's Long March 2F rocket carrying the Tiangong-1 module, or 'Heavenly Palace, from the AP/USA Today article,

For several years now I’ve been collecting odd and unusual science articles and sending them out to a list of friends who are generally interested in the subject.

I do this mostly out of a sense of irony and amusement about the odd things that keep happening in the world of science and partly out of a sense of wonder at the amazing stuff that keeps on coming down the pike.

I also feel that there’s way too much magical thinking going on in this country, along with a strong antipathy to science, critical thought and reason. When people around me ask “What the hell is wrong with this country?” My immediate thought is that we give way too much credit to snake oil salesmen of every description and way too little credit to people who think and test and prove.

But “Science Marches On…” isn’t about politics, per se, although I reserve the right to snark, it’s about science that’s fun, unsettling, running in circles chasing its own tail.

It’s informational not polemical (mostly) and I’m going to try to make it a weekly or biweekly event. As you can see below most of the items are links with a comment by way of introduction. I hope it’s as interesting and amusing for you as it has been for me.

China today launched the first module of their space station, while we can’t seem to ‘get it up’: no heavy lift launch vehicle, no crew module, no shuttle – completely dependent on Russia – whose usually reliable Proton suffered an ‘accident’ when they last tried to re-supply the ISS and btw, our erstwhile partner’s recommendation on the ISS: bring it down and let it burn.

WTF is wrong with this country that we let this happen?

Oh, and the Chinese launch was played on CCTV to the tune of “America the Beautiful”, I’m just gonna laugh till I cry…

Here

Big Cosmology has a Scooby-Doo moment: “Wuh-woh!”

Here

…and an intriguing idea about gravity, or Stephen Hawking loses a bet…

Here.

…this may be the nose of “SkyNet” under the tent, Big Blue wants to be your friend…

Here.

Warp drive? Yesyesyesyesyes, pleezpleezpleezpleez…

Here.

Quantum teleportation… Warp drive and the Transporter! Star Trek lives!

Here.

…look deeply into my eyes… you are feeling sleepy…

Here.

An interesting article on hydrogen – the Borg have plans for you…

Here.

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  • Anonymous

    This page is a great method to connect to others. Congratulations on a job well achieved. I am anticipating your next entry.
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  • Pat Racimora

    Great series, Craig,

    Another newsbreaker–the sad/dangerous side of science. 

    Professor of Public Health Edward Calabrese, an environmental toxicologist whose career research shows that low doses of some chemicals and radiation are benign or even helpful, says he has uncovered evidence that one of the fathers of radiation genetics, Nobel Prize winner Hermann Muller, knowingly lied when he claimed in 1946 that there is no safe level of radiation exposure.http://umass.edu/loop/talkingpoints/articles/136927.php

  • Anonymous

    Shock Photos: Candidate Obama Appeared And Marched With New Black Panther Party in 2007

    New photographs obtained exclusively by BigGovernment.com reveal that
    Barack Obama appeared and marched with members of the New Black Panther
    Party as he campaigned for president in Selma, Alabama in March 2007.

    The photographs, captured from a Flickr photo-sharing account before
    it was scrubbed, are the latest evidence of the mainstream media’s
    failure to examine Obama’s extremist ties and radical roots.

    http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2011/10/03/shock-photos-barack-obama-with-new-black-panther-party-on-campaign-trail-in-2007/

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  • Anonymous

    Ooohh, Just wanted to respond. I thoroughly loved your post. Keep up the great work. :)

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  • Anonymous

    It will take sometime to read all the links, just wanted say thanks in advance…great idea for a thread.

  • an observer

    This is great!
    Science threads….I love it.
    Latest, they may have been caught lying about arctic ice decline and now are trying to cover it up!
    That’ll be tough to do in the long run.
    http://www.real-science.com/pips-shows-large-increase-ice-thickness#comments

    • Ferd_Berfle

      Climatologists know what is going on but they refuse to blow the whistle on the waste, fraud, and abuse because their careers depend on politicians and those politician’s very livelihoods depend on catastrophic scenarios that they can use on an unsuspecting public to ensure their vote. It is more commonly known as a racket.

  • Onofres arm

    Well now we’re talkin’. A weakly “Science” thread at NQ, with the estimable (or should that be the “over-estimable”) Craig Della Penna as the new NQ science guru. Wow-wow-weeee! I’m sure that this new excursion into an unfamiliar territory will be most fascinating, especially with Craig as the tour guide. At a time in our culture when the noble pursuit of scientific knowledge and it’s crucial role in our society has been usurped by frauds, self promoters, huxters, scam artists, grifters, and evil fuckers who exploit the general scientific ignorance of the average American in order to separate them from their money, it’s truly inspiring to know that a well known scientific icon like Craig Della Penna is ready to charge in on his pure white steeds and vanquish the dragons of mock science flummery. You rock Craig!!!

    So tell us Craig, just to guarantee that our blind faith in your scientific omniscience isn’t misplaced, just what ARE your credentials? I’m sure it must have been fun for you to read the articles that you’ve given us links to, but I’m just dying to read some of the articles that YOU’VE written, such as articles that have been published in noted scientific journals,and that have been peer reviewed, and have been cited in subsequent scientific studies and research papers, and have established you as a  figure with a recorded scientific foundation. I’d really love to read them.

    You want to be NQ’s “Science Guy”? Well, I suppose that might not be too difficult if all you have to do is impress the scientifically challenged Bronwyn or Larry J., but unfortunately for you, there are a few of us here who aren’t so easily fooled with your half-baked, comi-con, Star Trek, dreamy school boy obsession with a discipline that you’ve probably never contributed significantly to. Some of us have actually had to break down bullshit into it’s chemical constituents in a lab (scatology is deeply integrated with a comprehensive study animal behavior)  
     
    Really Craig, please fascinate us with YOUR published articles, research papers, and the exciting experimental data that you’ve collected from your exhaustive devotion to any scientific endeavor. 

    Bless us with your brilliance.        

    • Onofres arm

      Ahhhh…..the peaceful sound of Gryllidae chirping.

  • Anonymous

    You missed one: IBMs new Synapse cognitive computing chip that mimics the human brain.
    http://venturebeat.com/2011/08/17/ibm-cognitive-computing-chips/

    Applying Moore’s Law and Kurzweil’s Technological Singularity with Synapse, human intelligence may be unnecessary and obsolete by 2028.

    • Craig Della Penna

      Looking at the current state of the world, it may be obsolete already…

      Nice catch with Synapse.

      • Anonymous

        Obsolesence would mean that human intelligence is no longer in use because it has been replaced by something superior. To my knowledge that has not occured. Yet.

        If you mean human intelligence has been replaced by the intellect snake oil salesmen that would not be obsolescence either. Snake oil purveyors are still living breathing homo sapiens.

        Hey, I thought this was a science thread. Nope. Still No Quarter.

        If Synapse becomes Kurzweil’s Technological Singularity will it find humans necessary? If so it will be able to creat brands of snake oil unimaginable.

        Because it is snake oil that controls the masses of human society.

        Just look at Ferd. He drinks it in like water and tows the line like any good worker bee.

        • Ferd_Berfle

          Just look at Ferd. He drinks it in like water and tows the line like any good worker bee.
          ==============
          Nice try, twodogsf-ing. You still know everything about nothing and nothing about everything, particularly science.

          As for “towing” the line, the correct phrase is toeing the line, which I do not do and that’s what gets your pink knickers in a twist.

          Go fuck yourself.

    • Ferd_Berfle

      You missed one: IBMs new Synapse cognitive computing chip that mimics the human brain.
      ========================
      Oh, great. Now we’ll get bots with an ability to obfuscate issues and divert attention to irrelevancies at a much faster rate than the mere human variety.

      At some point, we’re going to outlive our usefulness.

    • Anonymous

      “human intelligence may be unnecessary and obsolete by 2028″..

      It’s already obsolete and unnecessary, just look at the current ocupants over at Motel 1600.

      (sorry, couldn’t resist the cheap shot)

  • Anonymous

    We once were the country of new frontiers in science, I hope those times come around again.Obama saw something real and shut it down, should this surprise me, “NO” Why? because Obama, himself is a conjured up entity, That China, America the Beautiful thing, really pisses me off!!!!!! 

    • Anonymous

      Remember when the Chinese were invited to the WH, the Chinese pianist played an anti-American work for the guests.

  • Anonymous

    Just listened to two young political activists in Argentina who described life after the IMf……………Argentina is celebrating sovreignty as a principle and independence, with a huge scientific  exposition Technopolis with sections, or continents they call them, of air, water, earth ,fire, wind I suppose and imagination.   The Argentinians are becoming more and more scientifically orrientated, and Russia and China are collaroating with them for nuclear power plant production, nuclear submarines, and recently food production.  Industrializing agriculture is one of their scientific projects, encouraged by the Chinese who are concerned with the dearth of food production planetwide, and Argentina is planning an agriculture programme which will be feeding 800 million people world wide.  They have just completed theri fhird nuclear power plants and launched their fourth satelite for research in space, looking for development of more parameters to view planetary conditions with a view to forecasting future earthquakes, volcanoes etc.    They are very optimistic about the idea of a TRANSPACIFIC Alliance between the US, Russia and China.  This is becoming more and more potentially viable after the failure of so many EU  and voting to increase the EU stability fund to keep up with the everincreasing demands of the vulture oligarch banking cartels, flogging a dead horse.

    That was the bad new, here’s some good news. Wonderful Medvedev fired the sinister Alexi Kudrin, the oligarchs ally, who was pressing for Russia to get in on the bailing out the Euro act, so now Russia has exerted it’s sovreignty by dumping their treacherous finance minister Kudrin.

    Now we need to reinstate the Glass Steagal standard, get a New Bretton Woods agreement going between sovreign nations, and under Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution, have Congress start uttering Credit for the sole purpose of developing mankinds productivity potential, scientific, industrial and agricultural.  High technology being the order of the day, which stems from SCIENCE.  You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to recognize that people are required to participate in the real economy, so certainly money has to be made available to revitalize the sagging US states economies, yes, we need teachers, firefighters etc, and even old people and sick and poor children are worthwhile investments.  .  

    Technology is not just for broadcasting  schitophrenic audio visual hallucinations twenty four seven on the MSM and other corrupt media that are paid to promote as many misleading voices, audio hallucinations, as possible, to keep the world population in perpetual confusion.  “Did I really hear that?”  or ” I just can’t believe what I just read” are remarks that are commonly heard.  And the answer is yes, they were audio visuali hallucinations of technological split personality type information conjuring upness,  that is known as News.  Tell you what, it’s giving The News a bad name.

    Science is where it’s at, and shutting down NASA on account of bankrolling the FED’s buddies is un scientific.  IT’S also  completely  contrary to the law of the land, our US Constitution is most definitely scientific, it’ contains the principles of natural law that governs the past present and future existance of mankind.  Nothing to do with Solyandra or Nancy Pelosi’s brothers’ venture that just got government funding to the tune of 700 million bucks in Nevada the very last day of our fiscal year, last Friday no less.   Yuk.

    • Anonymous

      “Now we need to reinstate the Glass Steagal standard, ”
      Oh please, please, pretty please!

      • Anonymous

        Hi, one title I got for you is “Evolution as Anti Entropy, Destroying the Second law…… which you can find on larouchepac.com. If you type2nd Law of Thermodynamics into the LPAC search bar, several more of their articles and discussions etc on the 2nd Law Th. will be shown. There is also another video on that site entitled “The Harvard Yard” which might interest you. Even if you remain sceptical it is most refreshing from my point of view. Like Bob Dyland says, just wasted some of my precious time, don’t think twice, it’s alright.”
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      • Anonymous

        Fred, meaning your precious time. I”m happy to respond to your enquiry.

  • yttik

    “I also feel that there’s way too much magical thinking going on in this country…”

    Why?? Don’t we have a perfectly good unicorn president who has been busy lowering sea levels and making celestial choirs sing ??

    : )

    • Craig Della Penna

      I stand corrected.

  • Ferd_Berfle

    I also feel that there’s way too much magical thinking going on in this country,
    =====================
    Oh, do you mean the thinking of retrogressives who insist that raising taxes will increase revenue and that if we only keep allowing shiftless slackers to mooch off the government taxpayers everything will be hunky dory even though 50 years (and a trillion or so dollars) of doing the same has been an absolute failure?

    I don’t know what you call it but I call it insanity.

    • Craig Della Penna

      No, I actually mean the idiots who think that giving all our money to the thieves, weasels and banksters on Wall Street will result in the return of the good times…

      • Anonymous

        Let’s
        remember all this Nov 2012

         

        Gray-Haired
        Brigade

        We are
        referred to us as senior citizens, old fogies, geezers,
        and in some cases, dinosaurs. Some of us are “Baby
        Boomers” getting ready to retire. Others have been retired
        for some time. We walk a little slower these days and our
        eyes and hearing are not what they once were.

        We have
        worked hard, raised our children, worshipped our God and
        have grown old together. Yes, we are the ones some refer
        to as being over the hill, and that is probably true. But
        before writing us off completely, there are a few things
        that need to be taken into consideration.

        In school we
        studied English, history, math, and science which enabled
        us to lead America into the technological age. Most of us
        remember what outhouses were, many of us with firsthand
        experience. We remember the days of telephone party-lines,
        25 cent gasoline, and milk and ice being delivered to our
        homes. For those of you who don’t know what an icebox is,
        today they are electric and referred to as refrigerators.
        A few even remember when cars were started with a crank.
        Yes, we lived those days.

        We are
        probably considered old fashioned and out-dated by many.
        But there are a few things you need to remember before
        completely writing us off. We won World War II, fought in
        Korea and Viet Nam. We can quote The Pledge of Allegiance,
        and know where to place our hand while doing so. We wore
        the uniform of our country with pride and lost many
        friends on the battlefield. We didn’t fight for the
        Socialist States of America; we fought for the “Land of
        the Free and the Home of the Brave.” We wore different
        uniforms but carried the same flag. We know the words to
        the “Star-Spangled Banner,” “America,” and “America the
        Beautiful” by heart, and you may even see some tears
        running down our cheeks as we sing. We have lived what
        many of you have only read about in history books and we
        feel no obligation to apologize to anyone for America.

        Yes, we are
        old and slow these days but rest assured we have at least
        one good fight left in us. We have loved this country,
        fought for it, and died for it, and now we are going to
        save it. It is our country and nobody is going to take it
        away from us. We took oaths to defend America against all
        enemies, foreign and domestic, and that is an oath we plan
        to keep. There are those who want to destroy this land we
        love but, like our founders, there is no way we are going
        to remain silent.

        It was the
        young and the infidels of this nation who elected Obama
        and the Democratic Congress.

        You fell for
        the “Hope and Change” which in reality was nothing but
        “Hype and Lies.” You have tasted socialism and seen evil
        face to face, and have found you don’t like it after all.
        You make a lot of noise, but most are all too interested
        in their careers or “Climbing the Social Ladder” to be
        involved in such mundane things as patriotism and voting.
        Many of those who fell for the “Great Lie” in 2008 are now
        having buyer’s remorse. With all the education we gave
        you, you didn’t have sense enough to see through the lies
        and instead drank the ‘Kool-Aid.’ Now you’re paying the
        price and complaining about it. No jobs, lost mortgages,
        higher taxes, and less freedom. This is what you voted for
        and this is what you got. We entrusted you with the Torch
        of Liberty and you traded it for a paycheck and a fancy
        house.

        Well, don’t
        worry youngsters, the Gray Haired Brigade is here, and in
        2012 we are going to take back our nation. We may drive a
        little slower than you would like but we get where we’re
        going, and in 2012 we’re going to the polls by the
        millions. This land does not belong to the man in the
        White House nor to the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Harry
        Reid. It belongs to “We the People” and “We the People”
        plan to reclaim our land and our freedom. We hope this
        time you will do a better job of preserving it and passing
        it along to our grandchildren. So the next time you have
        the chance to say the Pledge of Allegiance, stand up, put
        your hand over your heart, honor our country, and thank
        God for the old geezers of the “Gray-Haired Brigade.”

         

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      • Anonymous

        Me quoting Craig “thieves, weasels and banksters on Wall Street and crony capitalists”. 
        Craig ” I actually mean the idiots who think that giving all our money to the thieves, weasels and banksters on Wall Street”

        That was a pretty lame effort of turning a nuance into a distinction. You must be a politician or a lawyer. If not, you missed your calling. You’re a natural.

    • Anonymous

      “and a trillion or so dollars”

      If that went to the slackers, then who got the other 13 trillion or so?

      Probably Craig’s  thieves, weasels and banksters on Wall Street and crony capitalists.

      Just by the pure math I’d say it’s latter who are the much more serious problem. By 13 trillion or so more of a problem.

      • Ferd_Berfle

        Spoken like a true progressive retrogressive. I was not in favor of the bailouts by either party/president and am of the opinion that business should thrive or shrivel on the vine as they make wise decisions and are responsible or make incorrect decisions and are irresponsible. The same goes for individuals. You may think the war poverty was cost-effective and successful. I don’t share that opinion because we have approximately the same rate today. A simple process analysis would demonstrate the error in your thinking but then, as I said, you’re a progressive and won’t let facts get in your way. We’ve only enabled a couple of generations to mooch off of others with reckless abandon. Time for that to stop.

        • Anonymous

          “You may think the war poverty was cost-effective and successful.”

          I did not say that. You did. Read and comprehend my words old man.

          What I said is this. A thirteen Trillion Dollar problem is much bigger than a one trillion dollar problem.

          Cronie capitalism is the problem.

          You are no different than global warmist who point to an relatively insignificant measurement as the cause of the entire problem.

          Man has very little impact on warming.
          Slackers have very little to do with the $14 Trillion deficit.

          But you need a horn to blow and are too simple minded to see past your reconstituted Rush Limburger bullshit.

          • Ferd_Berfle

            The word is crony and the other thirteen trillion could probably be located in the pockets of bureaucrats and their friends, which may or may not constitute crony capitalism but would be better termed fraud. Euphemisms cloud issues do not tend to edification.

            • Anonymous

              “reconstituted” is a scientific term.

  • yttik

    People in this country really have a legit and valid reason for not
    trusting science right now. We’ve seen it politicized, but also used for
    marketing purposes. Science has been so exploited by the advertising
    industry that it’s practically a joke on TV. It’s become the best
    science money can buy. The pharma and cosmetics industry are both
    atrocious with their TV advertising. About four minutes of that nonsense
    and nobody in their right mind would believe in “science”  anymore. The snake oil salesmen are now the public relations people for science.

    People don’t have “a strong antipathy to science, critical thought and reason.” People have seen what science for sale looks like and they no longer trust any of it. That’s not the people’s fault, in fact, they’re actually engaging in critical thinking based on what they’ve been presented.

    Genuine science would never demand to know if you “believe.” Belief, faith, trust, that’s the realm of religion. Once you start demanding to know if people “believe in science” it’s not science you’re advocating for anymore, it’s now a kind of religion.

    • Craig Della Penna

      Some very good points, but aren’t you blaming the victim a little? It’s not the scientists who are exploiting themselves for marketing purposes, it’s the advert and marketing weasels.

      • Anonymous

        Well, I don’t know whether to laugh or cry with all the Big Pharma “Science” advertising. First they push an anti-depressant, then they tell you that one of the side effects may be suicidal thoughts.
        Why bother buying the ad?

      • Ferd_Berfle

        It’s not the scientists who are exploiting themselves for marketing purposes
        ===============
        No, they’re whoring themselves to line their pockets. CC/GW is junk science and they know it. That being said and so that I won’t be criticized for being one-sided, the right has their share of scientifically illiterate flat-earthers as well with such a priori garbage as Creationism and Intelligent Design, two of the finest examples of intellectual flatulence ever devised.

    • Anonymous

      It’s hard to reconcile science and religion, but take the seven days of creation, Genesis Chap 1. and compare it with the information in THE SCIENCE OF GLASS STEAGALL a little film put out by Cody Jones at larouchepac.com and it corresponds in a weird kind of way.  The kind of way that shouldn’t discourage people from loving science or the LORD.
      Get the best of both worlds.  Don’t worry, be happy.

  • Anonymous

    The greatest purpose NASA and government back space program can do as a long term goal is to get us off this planet and ensure that human civilization millions of years from now survives.

    The earth is nearly 5 billion years old but in about 4.5 billion years our galaxy will be colliding with the Andromeda galaxy. Long before that (in about 1 billion years) scientists say that Earth will not be inhabitable as it is now for humans. 

    Although it is not exactly next week there seems to be a need for a role for government to continue to push forward in the development of our knowledge of the universe and the ability to develop the means to transport across the universe.

    To that extent I was never really sure about the purpose of the shuttle missions and did not understand why we were not developing the ability ot move well beyond that. In the over 40 years since first landing on the Moon I would have expected that we find a way to live there before venturing to other planets rather than just going to a space station.

    In about a billion years if humans are still not in a position to move to other planets and therefore face extinction, I am sure the medai will find some way of blaming Bush.

    • Craig Della Penna

      I agree with everything you said… except I would blame Ronald Reagan (snark), seriously, the line of boneheaded politicians who have screwed up the US space program is long and ignominious, NASA has been a political football from day one, Note to right wing: if you ever needed a poster child for how government can fubar a perfectly good program, NASA is your baby.

      We should have been on the Moon permanently 20 years ago and we should right now be setting up a permanent settlement on Mars with intent to terraform.

    • Craig Della Penna

      I agree with everything you said… except I would blame Ronald Reagan (snark), seriously, the line of boneheaded politicians who have screwed up the US space program is long and ignominious, NASA has been a political football from day one, Note to right wing: if you ever needed a poster child for how government can fubar a perfectly good program, NASA is your baby.

      We should have been on the Moon permanently 20 years ago and we should right now be setting up a permanent settlement on Mars with intent to terraform.

  • Anonymous

    I like the cosmology stuff.  Here’s a good new cosmic conjecture.  Does dark energy really exist?  Here’s another theory.  It makes me hopeful that All and
    Everything will not end in The Big Rip, as previously thought.  Since
    I’m just now recovering from The Big Bang, I’m very happy to entertain
    this possibility.  This article forces us to choose between Dark Flow
    and Dark Energy.  I’ll Go with The Flow!

    http://www.space.com/13094-accelerating-universe-dark-energy-illusion.html

    • Craig Della Penna

      Don’t forget the Second Law of Thermodynamics – it may end in a whimper…

      • Anonymous

        The 2nd Law of Thermo…..ics, is false.  The universe is anti entropic.   It just is demanding of higher and higher energy flux density sources to maintain higher forms of life.   If you can’t keep up then you’ll become extinct.
        So if we don’t want to go the way of the dinosaurs, we better start using our will to come up with some ideas for higher forms of energy to sustain life, not cause wars.   The greenies have so denigrated nuclear power that we are falling behind in that respect.   The Chinese are already looking to mine Helium 3 on the Moon to meet their energy needs.   If you check out which nations have cut back on their nuclear power production then you will see that it’s the same nexus as World War 2.  That was all about fascism, just like the T4 projgram of Hitler which bears a remarkable resembland to Obamacare.  So followers of the 2nd Law and Isaac Newton are going nowhere fast.

        • Ferd_Berfle

          When you publish a peer-reviewed study debunking the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, please give us a link to it. I would be impressed with such a study.

          That being said, they call it a law for a reason.

      • Anonymous

        Just to say please forgive me for jumping down your throat like that.  Sorry………………..I apologize.

      • Anonymous

        Just to say please forgive me for jumping down your throat like that.  Sorry………………..I apologize.

      • Anonymous

        The wonderful thing about science is laws will eventually be broken. All that we know as a species, to Hokma’s point, will be required to endure. The other side of that is the intervention of alien technology….
        Two things life has taught me.
        1) We are not alone.
        2) The truth is out there. 

    • Ferd_Berfle
      • Anonymous

        LOL–a couple of other possible scenarios:

        1–It’s all a dream, and the dreamer wakes up or moves into another dream.

        2–It’s all a computer simulation and the “game” ends, restarts, or moves into a different phase of simulation….

  • Ferd_Berfle

    My immediate thought is that we give way too much credit to snake oil
    salesmen of every description and way too little credit to people who
    think and test and prove.
    ===================
    Agreed. For a typical example, Al Gore is the biggest salesman of them all and he sells it by the crock along with other manure. Until scientists (and I am one) can demonstrate a causal connection between the activities of man and this alleged change in climate (global warming, whatever), then Al Gore is just expelling hot gas, which may indeed be one of the causes, though I would be guilty of the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy if I insisted on that hypothesis without further evidence.

    You see, when our climate is affected by untold numbers of potential causes, sorting through them all becomes not only imperative but is part and parcel of sound science. Simply stating that carbon dioxide levels have increased may be indeed true. That being said, what caused this increase is where the rubber meets the road as there are other sources of CO2 beside hydrocarbons and other contributing factors besides the activity of mankind. But these scientists, eyes glazed over with the prospect of employment for them, their children, and their children’s children into the foreseeable future, have had their work compromised.

    So I agree with you.

    • Anonymous

      The minute science becomes politicized it loses credibility.

      • Craig Della Penna

        Absolutely.

        • William L. Donlon

          I look forward to your articles.
          We are at the very “Dawn of Science”.

          What Albert Einstein did to Isaac Newton’s world —-

          Benoit Mandelbrot has done to Albert’s.

          Benoit Mandelbrot’s discovery in 1980, which opened up Fractal Geometry  and all the beautiful mathematics which lurks behind the  Image that the Mandelbrot Set exposed, is changing everything we thought we knew.

          There are no limits to the inter – connections and their applications, that are being discovered every day.

          Again
          I look forward to this.

      • Anonymous

        Funding is a political science.   The US Credit system which was abandoned by Woodrow Wilson was good
        political economic science, thanks to Alexander Hamilton.  Then abolishing Glass Steagall effectively managed to steer all funding  away from pushing the frontiers of science in the US and the trans Atlantic community  and directed it into the pockets of the dreaded oligarchs et al.  Rotten ideaology and politics is certain death for science, but the truth is surfacing slowly but surely.   Politics a la FDR  and JFK was down with science and the American Dream flourished.

    • Craig Della Penna

      Ferd, it’s really nice to know we agree sometimes, I still haven’t forgiven Gore for giving up in the 2000 election, I thought he should have taken it to the House.

      In regard to the climate things are even more complicated: we’re in the middle of an inter-glacial warming period and we’re on the tail end of a cooling period in that inter-glacial warming period… as my Scottish great grandfather used to say:”It’s enough to make strong men weep.”

    • Anonymous

      Yessir..  Carbon dioxide is known as the Gas of Life.
      Without photosynthesis we wouldn’t be around, and until that came along we weren’t around.  Maybe the EPA will outlaw photosynthesis as their next trick.   We’re in deep doodoo.