SFIndiePUMA’s Rant

I, too, have lost a few friends over this. Thankfully not anyone really close to me, but certainly people I had broken bread with these past few years. It is indeed heartbreaking that someone, anyone, would cast aside a person they truly know in favor of a media creation they truly don’t.

Thank you for what you shared here, SFIndiePUMA. I am sorry for the pain you are experiencing and that he has claimed to be a “uniter” yet divided so many.

I hope that people wake up to reality soon — and that does not mean turning on Obama if one supports him — just looking at him objectively rather than as this idealized, creation to be worshipped beyond all human expectation.

It is shocking how many of his supporters pretend he did not engage in the nasty tactics he used in this election. Nothing can convince them either.

As an American citizen, I will always respect the office, whether or not I respect the person sitting in that chair. That will have to do for now.

I have lost almost all of my “friends.” I am in the film business. I have found it almost impossible to deal with comments like this…

I say “Why are you voting for Obama?”

They say “Bush.”

The emotional damage I have suffered, and the friends I have lost…it’s just shocking. But I just CAN’T bring myself to accept that anyone with a brain voted for him. And I will NEVER accept him as my President. I know too much. Most of the friendships I lost are damaged beyond repair. That’s okay. I stood up for what I believe. I KNOW I’m right. OVomit is a POS who needs to GO. I will never sacrifice my own principles and morals to be part of the “flock.” I have seen people on this site start resigning themselves to OVomit. HELL NO. Not me. I will fight for this country until I am dead, like my father did. If I lose friends…they can bite me. They weren’t friends and they don’t deserve me. Period. I will maintain this mantra for life…NO ONE who loves AMERICA, with a BRAIN, voted for OVOMIT. It’s that simple and it works for me. I might only have a few friends but those friends I have are kindred spirits and feel as appalled about OVomit as I do.

I guess we have been “Chicagoized” — no rules, do anything to win.

I doubt that I will ever have contact with my brother and sister in law. She went cold shoulder and then when I didn’t respond with adoration at O-zero’s stupid speech on race — well that was the end.

The injuries done to this nation by this Narcissistic fool are indeed deep — the man lacks empathy and so he has no concern.

How long before people tire of his ego?

I’ve gone back to reading about the Shadow side of our personality — it’s been years since I’ve read this — but it helps to understand how O-zero has managed to project such a different face to so many people.

“Meeting the Shadow: The Hidden Power of the Dark Side of Human Nature”, Edited by Connie Zweig

But the gut reaction that this guy is a con artist is just as valid.

Thank you for sharing — I have a feeling that each of us who after careful deliberation decided to vote for McCain-Palin have similar stories.

Intolerance is something that cult members learn very early.

We’ve learned who are true friends are.

What I can’t get past? Whenever I saw McCain or Palin speak? I felt clean, fresh, patriotic, full of hope. When I saw POS Fraudbama speak I saw an empty soul, a liar, a cheat, a thief, someone who would step over their dead mother to fuck their sister. There couldn’t have BEEN two more different tickets this year. All of the pride, love, sentiment, etc. I felt for my country are gone. Because this scum hates us. And my “friends” voted for him. How do I live with that?

If you’ve really lost friends over the issue of who to support in a presidential election, then one can’t help but conclude that either you and your friends are far to emotionally invested in the issue, or you haven’t been remotely as tolerant of their views as you make out. Perhaps if these ‘valid concerns’ had remained as such and not mutated in to the kind of bizarre, irrational hatred it seems to have become, your friends might have agreed to disagree with you.

Obama has turned everyone against each other – how, exactly? Because of the supposed lies and corruption the paranoid wingnuts on this web site pore over each and every day, none of which has ever made it past the stage of innuendo and most of which has been comprehensively debunked to no apparent embarassment to yourselves (and if you aren’t embarassed by the way you fawned over the fake document analyst who ‘discovered’ those anomalies in Obama’s birth certificate, you certainly should be, considering what a laughing stock it’s made you – meanwhile what happened to that Michelle Obama tape, exactly?). As for the supposed ‘nastiness’ of Obama’s campaign, which seems to be based on little more than the independent actions of some of his fringe supporters, perhaps you might ask yourself why it’s only ever been visible to such a small, mutually reinforcing community as this one.

Nicely framed ending, though, by the way – no matter how successful a president Obama is, you’ll never have anything but contempt for him because he was somehow responsible for your losing a few friends, which gives you the perfect excuse to carry on your paranoid hatred for the next eight years. What utter cant.

Hey you freak…where IS that BC? YOU haven’t seen it. No worries, either your scumbag, lying, unqualified piece of SHIT boss provides his documentation or he doesn’t get to the White House? Wanna bet? This is America and assholes like you and your con man freaky fraud boss need to GO.

I like this article, thank you SFIndyPUMA. I can relate. My family and I (parents, sisters, their children, etc.) have been close. We emigrated from Europe in ’57 and we forged a close relationship in the crucible of that culture clash. We would never have expected such a clash, but it happened. We are all very liberal Democrats. I am probably the most left-wing in my family, followed by my parents. I have been a political activist and feminist all of my adult life. This election I watched Hillary Clinton’s campaign destroyed and personally attacked by the Obama machine. Next in the crosshairs was Sarah Palin. While one of my sisters supported Clinton in the primaries, she fell hard for Obama afterwards. I am the only one in the family who voted McCain/Palin and became a PUMA.
You, British Conservative, understand nothing. I couldn’t get past your first few sentences so I don’t know if you’re living in GB or are a transplant over here, but truly you understand nothing about this election given what I read in your post. This election was a civil war of a sort rarely encountered in this country. Truly, I have never experienced such a horrific election in my lifetime – I am 59.
This Thanksgiving I have decided to spend at home, by myself, because “celebrating” it with my family would be surrounding myself with the enemy. They would continue to eviscerate me emotionally. It’s not that I don’t have friends I can spend it with, but I have decided that this year I need to spend some time mourning the losses of epidemic proportion suffered in this election. I am giving myself time to grieve and to be thankful for what I still have.
Again, I thank you for this article because it so aptly describes my situation.

Hey Brit Cons – I don’t give a hoot about Obama’s birth certificate, but still have contempt for the man. He is a cold soul and is dividing us this very minute by wagging his finger tisk tisk style at Bill Clinton.

I hope he does well because I love this country and our constitution. But I will never like this man.

Don’t worry, the whitey tape is coming out today.

I was going to visit family during my week off work, even knowing they were for obama and planning to keep that subject as civil as possible, till i got an email telling me they are thrilled i am coming but also telling me they are still “walking on air” over the election.

Yeah, they are walking on AIR alright… and it is a long way down from cloud nine to the abyss of O.

Since i’ve never had a single fight with them in my 51 years of life, i decided to tell them it is best i do not come since it is inflammatory. i couldn’t have held my tongue, i would have rolled my eyes, i would have lost family relations for years perhaps.

no, i will wait till the kool-ade wears off and my once intelligent rational family is sane again before we get together and risk the division of O.

What a wanker!

Wot a wanker!

I guess I’m lucky in that no one in my personal circle supports O. Hell, none of my customers do either. It’s pretty obvious just from reading comments on several boards, that the Obots have no intention of trying to unite with non-believers. This cult behavior just astounds me.

Check out the poll conducted for the Daily Beast about sexism in the media. Women are really angry. If we want things to change, the media is the place to start.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-11-18/the-barrier-that-didnrsquot-fall/

Thank you for writing this. If it had not been for this blog and http://www.realdemocratsusa.com, I would have thought I was in a coma. I’ve lost friends I had for thirty or more years, because they consider me to be a traitor for my thoughts. I had a friend call me a racist twice, because I don’t like Michelle Obama and believe she is racist. I’ve learned that there are mindless fanatics at both extremes in our political scene. I’ve learned that the Democratic Party I loved and worked for has been taken over by people I want nothing to do with, because they are ideologues, sexists, immature and shallow, not to mention full of hate. While I am sad to have lost these friends, it is freeing to know that there are people, like you, out there who are thoughtful and fair-minded. For that I give thanks, and I have hope.

History Channel recently had a documentary on the influence of Body Language and Verbal effects.
Regarding Obama, they reflected that his oratory was laden with certain rhythms and rising crescendos that served to hypnotize those watching. This of course is no surprise for those of us who objectively viewed the proceedings from the sidelines and were horrified at the ensuing mass hysteria.

Many of those taken in by this viper are often those who have ridiculed any form of religious fervor (note their Palin put-downs) and felt themselves immune to this type of behavior.

My daughter, a major BO convert, is flying in for Thanksgiving, and I only hope that we can avoid the topic. I have already told her that the year has been a rollercoaster, and that I’m totally burned out on politics and want to give it a rest. I agree that it’s best to let the Kool-Aid grow stale before ever engaging the subject again (if ever).

I truly understand the writer’s pain and find it hard to get over the irony of how this Charlatan gets away with his “uniter” label. Life is sometimes way strange….

I haven’t really lost anyone. My husband and I just can’t talk politics this Thanksgiving.

Besides my Mother, my husband and I are the only ones who didn’t vote Obama.

I do think that a few had major concerns about him but are so Dem they just couldn’t vote anything but.

I ran into one of them and actually had a fairly decent conversation with him. I was very politically correct in the way I brought it up, just stating I had grave concerns about the safety of Israel with all of his associations. My friend seemed very interested in what I had to say (not that it matters now)and didn’t know most of the people I mentioned.

All he kept saying was (about the things he did know) well that did bother me about him. Yet he still voted for the man!

NO ONE who loves AMERICA, with a BRAIN, voted for OVOMIT. It’s that simple and it works for me.

It’s interesting that you include loving America in your criteria. The people I know who voted for 0bama have some kind of bone to pick with our nation and our system. And I’m referring to Caucasians, not AAs.

Before I fell asleep on election night I said aloud, “At least I can rest easy knowing that I voted for the right man.” My BF heard me and thought I was trying to lay a guilt trip on him.
(he didn’t vote at all).

Dear British Conservative:

My question is why are YOU so hopped up about Obama? Could it be that you see a kindred spirit in him? I’ve always maintained there is more in common between Bush and Obama than between Bush and McCain. (I don’t mean in party affiliation, obviously; but in personality and MO.) Both Bush and Obama are ideologues. Both sold themselves as being something they aren’t: Bush a regular guy from Texas, when he was born, raised and educated among the wealthy in the NE; Obama a black guy who had to struggle to be where he is, when he was raised comfortably as a white and had most everything he has ever gotten handed to him. We never saw Bush’s military records and we can’t see Obama’s birth certificate (a Certificate of Live Birth, is not the same in this country), his records from Columbia or Harvard, or his documents from the Illinois Bar (from which he mysteriously resigned just before the election. That also means he can’t be called a “lawyer,” since he isn’t a member of any Bar in the US). Both are thin-skinned and think they are God’s chosen here on earth. Neither speaks well without a script, and both have put their feet squarely in their mouths, when they have spoken off script. Both are Machiavellian and have used dirty tricks and character assassination to get where they are–not to mention both have very wealthy backers to whom they are each beholding. Neither is for the “common man,” and definitely not for women, common or otherwise. Neither ever ran anything or succeeded in achieving anything before running for office. Neither is good on details and so delegates far too much to underlings. Both are puppets to smarter and more powerful people who pull their strings. Neither had any real military experience. Both ran on a platform and a promise of change. Nether had any foreign relations experience. Both could charm the “skin off a snake….” Neither was elected by a large enough margin to justify the claim each has made about being given an mandate….(Note: The rank-and-file Republicans handed this election to Obama by not showing up at the polls to vote. If they had gotten over themselves, McCain would have won.)

I think Europe thinks so little of Americans that it has come to view the race for our presidency as just another episode of “American Idol.” It isn’t and choosing Obama over McCain is a serious mistake that Europe will come to regret–I fear.

I hear ya.

I have downgraded some close friends to “acquaintance” status over the election – we talk about the weather and the movies and not much else. I should preface this with “I live in DC we all talk politics all the time, its what we used to do for fun.”

The kool aid is powerful, and their need to absolutely adore The One is just too great. I am hopeful America will come to its senses.

Ignore the trolls people!

British Conservative,

I was going to respond with some explanation that might help you to have some empathy for what I, and many others, are feeling, even if you don’t agree with us. And then I realized, you aren’t capable of empathy. You’ve revealed that quite clearly in your thoughtful, heart felt, open-minded comment (uh oh, my sarcasm is showing).

Enjoy living in your land of illusions. I’ve a feeling it’ll burst soon, just like a child’s soap bubble.

So true. It’s amazing to watch so many seemingly intelligent, open-minded, tolerant “liberal” friends buy every lie, justification, and talking point from this Empty Suit. One of my LA friends (also in the entertainment business) actually said to me re: Wright: “But he wasn’t IN church THAT day!”

How do you even response to such willful ignorance? It’s preposterous.

I’ve never seen such determined denial of facts about so many issues. They do NOT want information when you try to give it to them. Couple that with the unprecedented media bias, and they are enabled in their ignorance. They are so desperate for a savior after Bush, they are willing to suspend all analysis and judgment. Good luck with that. Not me, not ever.

He is not my president either. I feel the same way about him I felt about Bush. You cannot cheat and steal and then claim authority. Illegitimate.

Pompous British blather. If you are not even in this country, you did not experience the vile and irrational hatred coming out of the Obama world. Keep your arrogant and rigid opinions to yourself.

Prime example of Obot ignorance: there is no evidence, there is no evidence, there is no evidence.

Months and months of specific, documented examples of Obama’s corrupt, Chicago behavior and tactics, and all he can say is, “There is no evidence.”

If you were my brother, we wouldn’t be speaking either. Thank God you’re not. What an uptight pr*ck.

SFIndiPuma,
I’m in San Francisco too and am a lonely bitter sea hag! Would love to meet up with other isolated puma’s in this liberal hell. Please email me if you know of a group here or if you want to make a group of two.
Haven’t read your rant yet…wanted to get my note in before thread got too full!

SFIndie Puma,
Thanks for your article. I also can never accept bambi being concerned for the rest of the country. He has damaged this country, possibly beyond repair for many years. Ani’s comment at 3:47 is also right on. I have not lost friends but they have been degraded to acquaintences. It is not their beliefs but the willingness to accept slime and vulgarity and lies on their ‘precious one’s’ part. They even gleefully jumped on the bashing Sarah bandwagon. The office of POTUS I respect but this guy never. Maybe I have lost friends….since I cannot imagine sharing anything else with them, I guess so.

Many of you have my sympathy!
I don’t have to share your loss, for my friends and family had the same approach this time.
I have always been the “odd” gal out, for our area is Republican, while I stubbornly stuck to my Democratic roots.
The old adage about not discussing religion or politics comes in handy.
However, the intense emotion invested in this cycle struck that one from the books.
I, too, refuse to respect, follow, encourage, or accept the choice of the voters!
I will also make changes in my life-style, not from revenge, but in refusing to be USED!

I wrote this poem in 5 mins as a gut reaction to this post. I have not written a poem since school. I hope its not too cheesy or flawed- just an honest gut reaction. and thanks for the post -made me feel better!
:

You are right and I
am wrong,
Repeat after you.

You are right and I
must be shown
I’m in the wrong.
Me being in the wrong is not enough for you.

You are right and I
Am wrong.
And if I can’t be shown I
Must be ridiculed, then ignored.

I listened
While you praised.
I wanted to deliberate
But you cut me off.
I tried to differ
You made me back down.
I hoped to keep the peace
But you were ready for war
(right from the start and that’s what has broken my heart).

I think I’m closer to the truth,
But you don’t want to hear.
I think I am hitting on something interesting,
But you don’t want to care.
You won’t be persuaded.
My view is not the mainstream.
You don’t want a friend who’s an extremist
(or maybe not one who has revealed your shortcomings).

We can’t agree to disagree like we used to.
I’m left wondering why?

Then…

Your self belief based on no evidence, reminds me of someone
Your deep seated resentment and insecurities, remind me of someone
Your mocking of anyone who thinks differently from you, reminds me of someone
Your unhappy childhood, reminds me of someone
Your mean spirit, unfair streak, lack of empathy…the list goes on.

Who said identity politics was dead?
You have identified with him -at the expense of me.

actually twas I that left about a dozen LIB pals on the DNC open thread

but it was because of their HILLARY hate that I left them
the misogyny and ignorance of pushing further left

due to GW BUSH

none of this would be happening if not for THAT CRIMINAL

now we have another one just like the other one

oh joy and happy day

NOT

I am glad to see that the percentage of posts like this one on this site has fallen. That’s progress.

Fif -

You nailed it – willful ignorance …determined denial of facts enabled by media bias and all justified because of Bush Admin. They apparently see themselves as rightous crusaders.

But how can anyone be rightous by claiming the ends justifying the means.

When will we as a country regain our moral backbone and say enough. Without truth you can not have trust, and without trust this country – no democracy can function and prosper. Distrust and untruths only leads to more distrust and untruths, its a self defeating down ward spiral.

SFindie – Saddly I too have lost friends and family is this political war.

Yes, my boyfriend is thrilled about the token AA and I find it disgusting. I thought I could hold my tongue and accept things, but it lasted a whole week.

The divider strikes again.

If our relationship rises and falls with Odrama though, we are screwed so we will most likely be parting ways soon.

You know, there may be a few (very few) PUMAs who are deeply bitter about this election, but the polls are quite clear: the vast majority of Americans didn’t see this election the way you do, and the vast majority don’t see Obama the way you do. In fact, he has extremely high public approval ratings today, even by comparison of other winning candidates. More people voted for him than ever voted for any other presidential candidate. He completely redrew the electoral map for the Democratic Party (just as I predicted he would). On the night he won, there was a dramatic surge of joy all across this country, even among some Republicans, who acknowledged the thrilling nature of his historic victory.

Now he is beginning to govern, and apparently doing so, in one of his first acts, by reaching across this very divide to offer Hillary one of the most important positions in American government. Isn’t it time to set aside this kind of hate-filled rhetoric? America is threatened — not by Obama, but by financial ruin, infrastructure rot, Islamic extremism, climate change, and so on. It will require all our best efforts to climb out of this hole. Creating a larger coalition aimed at that purpose has always been Obama’s goal, and we all need to be a part of it.

The greatest disappointment of this election was finding out how nasty and mean friends and family can be when you stop walking in lockstep with them. The actual act of saying you weren’t voting for Obama or God forbid you like Sarah Palin brought out incredible venom. Where is all this tolerance that Democrats are supposed to have?
The second big disappointment was finding out that my party could be as nasty and corrupt as what they always claimed to despise. In some ways this is probably a good thing because I will never vote a straight Democratic ticket again. I will look at both sides of the issues and not put the party first.
which proves that even an old dog can learn new tricks.
Here is an interesting article from the Chicago Tribune about what an 8th grade student learned about tolerance in an Obamaland by simply wearing political tee shirts to school. She goes to school in a very diverse community that prides itself on
being number on in tolerance.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-kass-14-nov14,0,3405674.column

AMEN!!!!

I just saw this video on you tube – it says it all.
http://www.howobamagotelected.com
Ash_N, Toronto, Canada

One of our local radio hosts interviewed “Brave Catherine”. You’ve got to hand it to the kid, she’s got cojones.

If he’s so wonderful and everyone knows it, why on earth do you waste your time coming here trying to convince what you term a small minority of crazy haters?

About half the country dislikes Obama, and I’d say most of those who voted against him don’t just dislike him, but dislike him and fear him. Every day, here in California, I run across yet another closet McCain voter who distrusts and fears Obama, and these are liberal-leaning folks.

“If you’ve really lost friends over the issue of who to support in a presidential election, then one can’t help but conclude that either you and your friends are far to emotionally invested in the issue, or you haven’t been remotely as tolerant of their views as you make out”

The point is, it’s the OBAMABOTS who are far too emotionally invested.

I actually some friends who are Obama supporters who are able to talk to me about this civilly. But the Obama supporters have lost their minds, like they truly are in a cult.

The friend of mine who dropped me (after 10 years) made the ridiculous pronouncement that he refuses to be friends with Republicans, even though I have not turned Republican.

There were a lot of happy people when Bush won. Don’t you have a party to attend?

ROFLMAO! Oh, I wish my partner and I still lived in SF so we could raise a glass with you. Now, we live in NM, so I guess that makes us lonely, bitter sand hags (actually, we don’t have sand in Northern NM, but it worked).

this is one of the shocks to me as well

however now as we enter the handoff to the new Admin I see this same behavior form other HRC supporters we are now having our own internecine strife as some of us, I for example, have determined to hope for the best and move forward glad to see Clinton Admin staff and I will support the incoming Admin as they pursue the plans hat in most cases were proposed by HRC in the primaries..

I am still for UHC and Housing modifications whether it be HRC or an Obama Admin bringing them to fruition.

other people are in a different place and frankly dont want to hear anything positive about the Administration coming in or their plans or HRC as SoS, or anything to that effect which is their right..

I find myself losing some connections with this group too and it is another separation

but this is America, the blessing of our nation is we are constantly remaking ourselves, maybe the parties needed the shakeup, I know I am now a moderate in my mind, still listed as a DEM but open to all comers with a plan and a heart of gold, you know like HRC or Sheila Bair.

As I watched the Finance Cmte hearings this morning, I am amazed at how the DEMS are now all onboard supporting Bair’s plan which is essentially a synthesis of Mac and Hill’s plans.

This is politics. and perhaps I was unprepared for the DEM party attacking itself and its base to select its candidate, and perhaps (or for sure), I was unprepared for Chicago political tactics in our primary.

But it appears as though the people whom I have long supported but became ‘disenchanted’ with (to put it mildly) during the primary are back to the people I thought I knew.

This must have been what Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B Anthony felt like when Frederick Douglass just totally dissed them, got what he wanted, and then came back to help them as if it was hunky dorey. This appears to be what has happened.

The party got what they wanted and now they are fine with HRC’s plans which are being implemented left and right by different Congress critterz.

so I am going to support the plans I think are best, and never forget what lurks beneath the surface, the willingness to sell each other out.

As I have oft said, if HRC can do it for the country with a smile, I can certainly call the congress critters I used to like, then felt total acrimony towards, and whom now appear back on plan, (ie housing, healthcare), and live in the present with an eye to the future.

that is SUBLIME!!

I find it interesting that you use the term “reaching across this very divide to offer Hillary one of the most important positions in American government.” Aren’t they in the same party? Most would not consider that a far reach.

Yes indeed America is threatened, and yes in my opinion by Obama who has no clue how to get America out of financial ruin. He still states he is going to raise taxes which is going to hurt our economy more. The stock markets response to the election shows that the international and domestic markets do not have the confidence that this candidate will be able to move the economy in a positive direction.

Please do not include me in Obama’s goals I am a proud American that is ashamed by the people that have been fooled by his words. “Hope may have won but America lost.”

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oh, i think the AAs have a problem with america too. they can all be one big happy family now. notice how rarely one of them actually *leaves* america though, given how it sucks and all. i guess they know which side their bread is buttered on.

it the same way repugs were after 8 years of clinton, which, horror of horrors, gave us 8 years of peace and prosperity. clinton made being president look easy, so voters thought that any idiot could do it, and hey, bush wasn’t clinton. that was the important thing.

actually, only about 20% of american voters felt moved enough to vote for obama, so i think you’re a bit off in your belief that “the vast majority” of americans want to have his baby.

they really don’t have any respect, do they? i know what you mean. they should at least have the sense not to bring the issue up.

He definitely interest me with his offer to Hillary.

He has, in short, opened a window.

But…..it’s just a crack in the window.

So we’ll see.

I am still very opposed to many of his proposals, which I thought were phony politician promises based on non-realistic thinking.

He blew out politicians who knew, they have to be realistic and offer realistic plans.

So….he’s a pig in a poke, just as Bill Clinton said.

We’ll see.

So true. I, like so many others, have suffered the wrath of friends and family who blindly supported the most corrupt, childish, unintelligent and, yes, evil party in the history of our country. The jeopardy our country and its people have found themselves in has interested none of these people a whit. The bias, lies, cheating, thuggery, intimidation tactics and blatantly illegal acts interested almost no one save the PUMAs.

So, I have stepped back from some relationships, realizing that they are not of the type that will withstand the test of time and differing opinion. It has saddened me, but much more saddening and frightening have been the realization that we have lost our system of democracy through the collusion of illegal acts, voting fraud, and media bias.

What has heartened me and helped me continue my work in the Movement of Reform has been the incredibly high number of wonderfully committed, hard working, brilliant people who share our mutual concern and love for our country, its people and our Constitution. So, one door closes…another one opens…a few go out that first door…and many many more enter the second. It is with those kindred spirits that I have now cast my lot. My thanks to all who have entered and my sympathy for all who have left.

Hi-

I was getting ready to shut down for the night, but checked back here. I’m so glad I did, I think your post was beautifully written and cuts right to the chase of what so many of us are feeling.

There was a poster I think s/he posts from France, the day after the election had some wonderful words of encouragement.

In the post was a hat tip to PUMA for holding back an 0bama electoral tsunami.

Your friends simply found you out. They assumed you to be reasonable human beings, but then because Obama ran against Hillary, the bigotry started coming out.

He was sexist for beating a Clinton. The effective Head of the Party.

Then you add on the belief in the whitey tape, the birth certificate rubbish, the stories that he killed his grand mother, accusig him of links with Farakhan and of being a Marxist Muslim radical Christian Terrorist. No wonder you lost friends. No one except sheet wearers wants to be associated with sheet wearers and the problem is PUMA groups were so bitter they failed to recognize how much hate they spewed. If they ever had a good message it was lost in the hate. They even told Obama supporters not to help clear her debts.

For those of you who have read the “Daily Beast”, you need to read the comment section. It will give you and insight into the mind of these rabid anti Palin voters. It is plain old misogyny. To claim this womem is not intelligent enough to be President, or did not have the experience to be Commander and Chief and then go on to say how Obama is going to lead this nation, when in fact he has less then she. Their hatred of women is so obvious that it is almost scary.The media lap dogs destroyed her as a candidate with all the non stories and biased reporting.

NO ONE who loves AMERICA, with a BRAIN, voted for OVOMIT. It’s that simple and it works for me. I might only have a few friends but those friends I have are kindred spirits and feel as appalled about OVomit as I do.

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You think nearly 70 million Americans have no brain. You must hate America. Shame on you.

Nearly 70 million votes is a pretty good opinion poll and as PUMA bigots preached – it was the poll in November that counted.

Token African American?

If that comment does not shame the administrators what will?

It’s not true that I understand nothing. I would take issue with your premise that the only way to know of something is to experience it: I have access to the highest quality source material, both the wide variety of print and new media from the top journalists across the world, and the large network of friends I have in the US who are perfectly capable of reporting their experiences to me. So my question is simple: how can it be that the experiences you describe differ so wildly from those reported by every other source I’ve had access to? Moreover what, exactly, are you claiming has happened to you that has been so terrible?

Even by the standard of the claims regularly made on this web site, the idea that you can judge my character with such precision on the basis of a single blog comment does seem to me to be something of a stretch. My understanding of the term ‘empathy’ is the ability to put oneself in the position of others to understand their feelings; this is not something I usually have a problem with, and generally am fairly highly regarded among my friends for it.

This page is not, however, about me, so since you’ve said nothing in your response other than to impugn my character I’d better stop here.

Well, if you’re going to make a positive claim that someone has done something wrong, it’s considered polite to offer at least some kind of evidence, and form dictates that it really oughtn’t to be fabricated.

Thankyou for your constructive reply. You may very well be right about some people: none of the Americans I have (nearly all of whom supported Obama, for one reason or another) fell into that category, but then I don’t tend to associate myself with people who can’t have civil disagreements over matters of policy, and that isn’t to say there aren’t such people out there. I suppose my point is just that (as you seem to be aware) not all Obama supporters are the same, and in my experience, at least, those that exhibit cultish tendencies are in the minority – and also that this web site, and many of its contributors, display exactly the same tendencies as you are criticising.

Sooooo, you wouldn’t mind a surgeon cracking your chest open and working on your heart without ever actually practising first? Sorry, but there are somethings that must be experienced. And for you to be here commenting on our politics is laughable. I doubt you’d be happy if we did the same. I’m sure you’d be a little incensed if we went to a British blog and said that the British were stupid to pay high taxes just to hold on to the outdated figurehead that is the monarchy.

I don’t follow: why should I break the habit of a lifetime on the sayso of someone I don’t even know?

oughtn’t? Just go away. You’re about as British as Anjolina.

Hi sarahfdavis,

I don’t know of any group here, but we can certainly create our own! My email is sfindiepuma at gmail dot com.

We’ll pass the word around the City and see we can get to join us! There MUST be other PUMAs in San Francisco.

I’m not a reader of poetry — but yours got me from the first line and I read the WHOLE poem!!!

Beautiful. Thank you.

There is a code word that the misogynists use — “experience”.

Katty Curic (blond bimbo from CBS) gave advise to Palin — told Palin to get more Governing “experience”.

Palin lacks “experience” — while O — has “experience”.

Translation

Experience = penis.

Palin doesn’t have a penis and you know who does.

NobamaNoway. I am an AA. You can’t imagine not being on speaking terms with your other 8 sisters and brothers since about March of this year because of not supporting Obama. One of my sisters and I supported Hillary and then John and Sarah. One of my sisters from Chicago (The great Obama *ss kisser) poisoned everyone’s mind long ago. None of them would listen to facts about Obama. I simply detest him due to the lying, phony, race-baiting tactics he used during both campaigns. He is not AA he is biracial and that is the reason many whites voted for him. If he would have been the child of black parents I am not sure he would have won even with the terrible economic melt down. That is my opinion.

Yes. He is a token AA because he really is biracial. Before you accuse me of being insensitive, I have many biracial neices and nephews in my family.