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“Can’t Decide” in Fourth, “Don’t Want” Gaining

Just to keep you up-to-date with all the latest tail swats and whinnies coming from the 2012 presidential horse race …

The Iowa State poll of likely caucus-goers has Herman Cain leading at 25%, Ron Paul running a hard second with 20% and Mitt Romney trailing respectably in third with 16%. But the surprise dark horse coming out of the Iowa cornfields is “Can’t Decide” in fourth place beating out “outsider” Rick Perry and straw poll winner Michele Bachmann.  From GlobeGazette’s Poll: GOP race up for grabs in Iowa

“Can’t decide” polled 8.1 percent — more than Texas Gov. Rick Perry (7.9 percent), Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachman (7.6 percent), former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (4.8 percent) and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum (4.7 percent). Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, who has not campaigned in Iowa, received no support. “Other” polled 5.8 percent.

But with 44 days to go until the Iowa caucus, the race horses are showing the strain…

The now camera-shy and newly protected by Secret Service leader, Cain, seemed off stride and distracted by a higher calling at the Holy Land Experience in Florida on Friday.

“This feels like a pulpit, and I am a preacher,” Cain said from his spot on the auditorium stage. “It’s just a natural thing when I get in this setting.”

Holding strong in second place, Ron Paul’s mild mannered midnight ride warning of “The Fed” and the debt has won him a loyal following, but it has yet to liberate him from the obscuring fly on the MSM’s lens.

Third placed Mitt Romney, who has been hugging the rails fearful that the careful jockeying of his epic run for the White House may yet slip on the blank pages of his records as governor, slid on Mitt/ObamaCare, or stumble on his unpardonable compassion as a careful leader, has now decided to make a bold play for a strong finish in Iowa by focusing on … the economy.

But smart money is betting on a “Can’t Decide” surge in Iowa, after all ”Can’t Decide” is now running in fourth and is the fallback choice of 22% .

But hard on the hoofs of the Iowa caucus is the New Hampshire primary.  There the race has Romney (29%) and Gingrich (27%) in a dead heat.   But Gingrich seems to be struggling to push past Romney’s well-groomed canter.  Could it be the extra weight of “non-lobbyist” consulting fees for health care and Freddie Mac in his saddlebag?   Not willing to fade away, Gingrich is “Setting the Record Straight” on 16 issues and distinguishing himself as the anti-Clinton candidate (an adulterer, without the perjury).  From Answering the Attacks | Newt Gingrich 2012 :

“he [Gingrich] had admitted to having an extramarital affair during the impeachment of President Bill Clinton.  What these accusers are ignoring is that the impeachment proceedings against President Clinton were due to the fact that the president committed perjury in front of a sitting federal judge, which is a felony.”

The end of the primary race is 8 months away.  Plenty of time for anything and everything to happen.

Will Gingrich continue to rise?  Or will he come up lame like Bachmann, Perry and Cain before him?  Can a long shot still breakaway from the back of the pack?  Will social conservatism be enough to move Rick Santorum ahead?  Has Romney captured too much of the well-groomed Mormon politician vote for Huntsman to become a front runner or even catch up with main pack?  Will Roemer and Johnson ever get the racing officials to open the gates and the media to remove their blinders?  Or will they switch fields to run among the Independents and  Libertarians?

Officially President Obama runs alone in the Democratic primary race, but his PAC funding is down.

Earlier this year, Bill Burton left the White House to help create a pro-Obama fund-raising group with a goal of raising $100 million, aiming to mimic the success of recent Republican efforts.

So far, he’s falling short.

Many of the Democratic Party’s biggest donors aren’t planning to support his organization, either because they’re unhappy with Mr. Obama or disillusioned with politics in general. There’s also this fund-raising fact of life: Wealthy donors are more likely to open up their wallets to defeat a sitting president than to protect one.

Anyone else see the shadow racer, “Don’t Want”, flanking both Obama and the Republican pack?  And could “Don’t Want” take the lead in both parties and hold it?

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  • Anonymous

    A drug cartel member who was deported to Mexico as part of a major
    smuggling bust announced this week in Arizona has already returned to the U.S.
    and been caught with $1.6 million worth of drugs — yet another example of how
    relentless and seemingly unstoppable Mexican cartels can be, officials said
    Tuesday.Francisco Guillermo Morales Esquer, 36, was arrested Oct.
    13 in one of three major busts that state and federal officials credited with
    dismantling the smuggling ring, which is believed to be tied to the Sinaloa
    cartel — Mexico’s most powerful.The busts were announced Monday at a
    Phoenix news conference in which officials displayed hundreds of pounds of drugs
    and dozens of guns they had seized.Morales’ arrest came about five hours
    later when a deputy clocked him driving at 50 mph in a 15 mph school zone in
    Stanfield, about 50 miles south of Phoenix. A chase ensued at speeds of up to
    100 mph during which officials said Morales tried to hit a deputy who was
    putting down stop sticks.http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/01/dep….est=latestnew s

  • Anonymous

    Billionaire George Soros gave advice and direction on how President
    Obama should allocate so-called “stimulus” money in a series of regular
    private meetings and consultations with White House senior advisers even
    as Soros was making investments in areas affected by the stimulus
    program.

    It’s just one more revelation featured in the
    blockbuster new book that continues to rock Washington, Throw Them All
    Out, authored by Breitbart News editor Peter Schweizer.

    Mr. Soros
    met with Mr. Obama’s top economist on February 25, 2009 and twice more
    with senior officials in the Old Executive Office Building on March 24th
    and 25th as the stimulus plan was being crafted.  Later, Mr. Soros also
    participated in discussions on financial reform

    Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/george-soros/2011/11/21/big-government-george-soros-helped-craft-stimulus-then-invested-companies-benefiting#ixzz1eOZBblJU

    • Anonymous

      Soros….Soros…..

      He’s a great man, right?  A mover and a shaker?  Like Keyser Söze?  Nothing suspicious here…..

  • HELENK

    the double standard on booing
    meeeschele got booed at a NASCAR race

    http://bigjournalism.com/dloesch/2011/11/21/the-double-standard-on-booing/

    • Anonymous

      They weren’t “booing”!  They were actually cheering her!

      “Mooo!   Mooo!”

  • HELENK
    • Anonymous

      I think that Trump is a bit scared that what similar tpe of slander news media blitzing that  happened to Cain might happen to him.  We already know that there is a ton of crap out there on Trump with his 3 wives and other girlfriends and having some business dealings that were not totall on the up and up.

      • Scottymac54

        OR, he’s working with rogue elements within the Democratic Party, who want Hillary, not Barky, in this race and want him to further fragment the Republican vote, a “Nader” for the righties….

  • Anonymous

    Linda, responding to you here since that thread got TINY! I think you did just fine with the terms! Well done!

  • Anonymous

    Good Grief… Obama Chews Gum, Plucks It Out During East Asia Summit Meeting

    • Tricia

      Yuck!  (How Presidential…not.)

    • Anonymous

      When will someone take that family and teach them some manners…None of them know even the simipliest of manners.
      Manners that I know I have seen grade schoolers use…
      I swear I am beginning to wonder where the H3LL the DNC found this guy..
      .I am wondering if someone just plucked this guy out of the gutter and did a quick fix on him similar to what was done to “My Fair Lady” and then got him put into the Illinois Senate.
      Hey think about it guys what do we really know about this man’s pass that has been 100% proven true.

    • Anonymous

      So he took out his gum–

      At least he didn’t pick his nose and eat it! 

      Makes me wonder how many wads of gum are stuck up underneath the Resolute Desk…..

  • Wbboe
  • Wbboe

    Here is John Kerry preparing to tell MSNBC why the Republicans are to blame for the failure of this (phony) super committee.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_PZPpWTRTU

    • Anonymous

      Doesn’t Kerry remind you of Herman Munster?

      • Anonymous

        Very Much so — I thought ever since he tried running for Pres.

  • Wbboe

    I do not want to seem like a (complete) fool here, but I am relieved that this super committee failed to reach a decision.  This assumes (of course) that markets stabilize over the next several days.  The reason I am relieved is because I say in the concept of this super-committee a perversion of the democratic process.  What do we need senators or representatives for if super committees make the tough decisions.  The thing to watch for now is that Boehner and McConnell do not sell us down the river as we have seen in the past.  There is a good bet that will happen as Morris intimates. Frankly, that is a bad thing too, but better than a wholesale abdication of congressional authority and responsibility.  I know it gives people like Boehner and Pelousy more time for insider trading, but once in a while it would be nice if unusual and refreshing if they happened to do something for this country rather than to it.

  • HELENK

    msnbc never fails to be out of touch
    mika responds to gingrich

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/msnbcs-mika-responds-to-gingrichs-take-a-bath-occupy-quip/

    • Anonymous

      Mika defines the concept “twit.”

      • Scottymac54

        You know, it’s funny.   I agree with your assessment of her “twit” persona.  I believe it’s an act, because she was NOT as bad when the show started.

        However, she’s 100% CORRECT about Gingrich’s comments being disgusting!

        Not to mention, not very bright.

        It was that revelation, about Gingrich really wanting to be only president for the 1%, and was telling us so, that made me realize I would never be voting for him, even to boot Barky.

        MSNBC may be frequently “out of touch” with the “Tea Party” crowd, but are Mika’s sentiments toward Gingrich’s comment out of touch with the larger majority of Americans who vote, and contribute to political campaigns?

  • HELENK

    why is this NOT a suprise

    http://biggovernment.com/whall/2011/11/21/george-soros-helped-craft-stimulus-then-invested-in-companies-benefiting/

    george soros helped craft stimulus and then invested in companies benefitting

  • HELENK

    here is my entry for the horse race

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq2kv-QQhIE

    • Anonymous

      Yes–Beetlebaum is a perennial favorite….

  • HELENK

    I was wondering if all these sudden reversals against backtrack are timed so someone could run against him in the primaries. If he waits too long to step down it would be too late to run someone else.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t think there will be primaries. It could be their effort to shake up Obama to do more or, more likely, there is a complete buyer remorse of Obama and the concern that he will lose in 2012 and take his party with him.

  • Wbboe
    • Anonymous

      Interesting!

  • Wbboe

    I am sure it is just me Linda, but I do not believe any of these fucking polls.  Except maybe Rassmussen. The rest of them are just sordid efforts at left wing media manipulation with zero credibility. They use phony polls to drive phony headlines while they wait for “marching orders from the Obama White House.  I have a friend who lives and dies the RCP poll.  If Obama goes down a couple points he relaxes, and if Obama goes up he despairs. Why?  They are utterly irrelevant especially at this point, before any candidate has been selected, before the campaign argument has been clearly and concisely articulated, before whatever will play out between now and the election plays out and before 80% of the country is paying attention. Nuts.

    • Wbboe

      This is why I posted the stuff from Jay Cost and Reince.  These are the arguments that will shape the campaign. And because Obama will be forced to go negative, and to run the most negative depraved campaign in the history of this country, that there will come a point where the country will reject what he is saying.  The country may be scared, they may feel pessimistic based on all the bad data that is pouring in, but that is not how most people want to lead their lives.  Obama cannot deliver an optimistic message with any credibility.  Those days are long gone, and Reince’s diary tells the story on that. It seems to me that the most important thing anyone can be doing between now and then is impeaching big media so they cannot control this election the way they did in 2008.  I do not think they can determine a result because this one will not be that close, but I do think they can provoke big trouble if they are not checked.  Bear in mind, these people are fighting to preserve their priviledged life style, knowing full well it comes at the expense of the rest of the country.  But they do not care one iota about the country or anyone but themselves and their class.

      • Anonymous

        Wbboe - 
        You said: “ The country may be scared, they may feel pessimistic based on all the bad data that is pouring in, but that is not how most people want to lead their lives. “ 

        Yes.  Exactly.  And even more so, when times are bad and getting worse.  The country want a leader with a plan who has real faith in the goodness and capabilities of the people.

        • Wbboe

          YES!!!

          • Wbboe

            It is the old “there are no atheists in a foxhole” canard.

            • Wbboe

              In other words, they do want to believe in something, and at this point, no sentient being believes that Obama is the one to solve the problems.  The people who cling to him now are those who are afraid of letting go, or  are in denial, or want to rape the American People though some form of pay to play.  I include his bundlers but no less big media in that last group.

              • Wbboe

                1.  Moses told the people get off your ass, get on your camel, we are heading to the Promised Land.

                2.  Obama told his people, sit on your ass, light up your camel, this is the Promised Land.

                • Anonymous

                  LOL

    • Anonymous

      I tend not to trust polls ever since a few acquaintances told me that they never respond negatively in public about Oblahblah for fear of being called racist. They’ve seen me take numerous hits and don’t want to be fired on themselves. Thus they keep quiet when asked but assure me that they will vote against the phony POS no matter who runs against him.

      Although one did say if the GOP nominates some super social conservative, Santorum for instance, that she and her husband will just vote down ticket and leave the presidential part of the ballot blank. That or vote Green Party. No one suggested sitting it out.

  • Wbboe

    The 2012 Standard: Holding President Obama Accountable Posted by Chairman Reince Priebus (Diary)
    Monday, November 21st at 8:10AM EST

    President Obama did voters a favor. During the 2008 campaign and early in his
    administration, he laid out the standards by which he should be judged. He made
    it perfectly clear under what conditions he would deserve re-election.
    And by his own standard he doesn’t deserve a second term.
    In February 2009, when employment was at 8.2 percent, he declared, “If I
    don’t get this done in three years, then this is going to be a one term
    proposition.”
    Unemployment has yet to return to February 2009 levels, much less fall lower.
    Based on that standard alone, this should indeed be a “one term
    proposition.”
    But consider the President’s other promises and self-imposed standards.
    On the stimulus: He predicted unemployment below 8 percent. Today: We’re not
    even close.
    On Obamacare: He promised accessibility and affordability. Today: Prices
    continue to skyrocket and many Americans have discovered they cannot keep their
    current plan.
    On the deficit: He promised to cut it in half by the end of his first term.
    Today: He produced three years of record budget deficits, exceeding $1 trillion
    each.
    On the debt: He promised to slow its growth. Today: He accelerated it and it
    has now surpassed $15 trillion.
    On ethics: He promised the most transparent administration in history. Today:
    The administration has been caught gambling taxpayer money on failed investments
    like Solyndra for political purposes.
    On lobbyists: He promised there would be no lobbyists in his administration
    and no lobbyist money in his campaign coffers. Today: He has gladly welcomed
    both.
    He promised a thriving economy. It’s stalled.
    He promised change. We have gotten more of the same.
    He promised to unite us. We’re divided.
    He has so little to run on, Democrats have resorted to pathetically arguing
    that “it could’ve been worse.”
    In 2012, Republicans will hold the president accountable. He laid out the
    terms on which he wanted to be judged.  And we’re happy to accept those
    terms.
    It’s not our standard. It’s not a partisan standard. It’s the President’s
    standard. Let’s hold him to it.
    There are no words more damaging to Obama’s re-election prospects than his
    own. That makes our messaging strategy quite straightforward: Repeat those
    words—his broken promises—as often as possible.

    • Anonymous

      loud and often.

    • Anonymous

      Broken promises and a failure to lead. Leaders lead with inspiration and perspiration and ideas.

      Obama offers nothing but blame-gaming, finger-pointing and class warfare.

      The voters may be sick and tired of the gridlock in congress but I suspect that they will soon be just as sick and tired of a president that acts like a whiny little bully in the school yard. They never take responsibility for their actions either.

  • Anonymous

    While it is interesting to watch, I don’t think the first few primaries end up meaning that much. Winning Iowa or New Hampshire does nothing to guarantee winning the nomination at all as long as you finish competitively there.

    This has been and is still Romney’s nomination to lose. He is an unparalleled campaigner/debator, he has a massive organization, and has a lock on fund-raising. It would have to take some startling revelation to come out to take down Romney.

    Regarding Obama, his fundraising is down but it is still high. I think he had to begin campaigning hard and early in order to convince the party elders that he is worthy of a second term. Apparently there are more and more who are unconvinced. After the first of the year, if Obama is still mired with a horrible economy and bad poll numbers don’t be surprised if he is convinced not to run for a second term.

    • Anonymous

      Who do you think will run if Obama doesn’t on the Dem side?

      • Anonymous

        It’s a set up for Hillary. Mainstream Democrats powers now deeply regret the selection of Obama.

        • Anonymous

          But everyone is claiming Hillary doesn’t want to run.

          • Anonymous

            She has not yet sworn on a stack of bibles and, as you know, a woman does have the right to change her mind.

            • Anonymous

              I hope you are right.

              • Scottymac54

                Remember the financial bind the Clintons kept finding themselves in.

                Waiting as long as possible might be to hedge their bets, force the Dems to dislodge Barky as quickly as possible if they see ANY doubt on his part, and add a frenetic energy to an accelerated campaign.

              • murray

                If the Dems were already planning to dump “O”, would they have bothered to throw Reggie Love under the bus, just because of rumors and stories of his being gay?

      • Anonymous

        It does (and I have a post coming up later on this), but hey – we can hope, right? THAT would be “Change” I could believe in!

        • Anonymous

          Hope.. Change…Nicely said Amy!!

          • Anonymous

            :-D Thanks, Linda! Great post! (And sorry – I meant to add that before.)

            • Anonymous

              Looking forward to your post!!

              • Anonymous

                You’re too kind, Linda!

                Btw, you know I LOVE horses, so this analogy you have going on here is perfect!

                • Anonymous

                  I almost emailed you for horse terms.  Next time I will. 

      • MG

        Biden?

        • Anonymous

          Seriously?

    • Anonymous

      Romney would certainly be a shoo-in if Democrats were allowed to vote in the Republican primary, but they’re generally not…..

      • Anonymous

        In SC, it is open, though one can only vote once (in theory – talking to you, ACORN). And we have one of the early primaries (January – not too far away now). Should be interestng!

        • Anonymous

          Don’t get me started on the primary system.  I live in one of the last states to vote.  

        • Anonymous

          How many times do dead people get to vote?

      • HELENK

        oowawa
        I had not heard this song before , but I thought of your slippers when I did

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym7ijU6-9AI&feature=related

        • Anonymous

          Never heard that, HELENK, Thanks!

  • Anonymous

    I’m still putting all my money on ABO.

    • Anonymous

      For the good of the nation, I’m hoping for a higher bar.

      • Anonymous

        I’m hoping for one too. But still ABO.

    • Anonymous

      big bunch of us.

  • Anonymous

    “Anyone else see the shadow racer, “Don’t Want”, flanking both Obama and
    the Republican pack?  And could “Don’t Want” take the lead in both
    parties and hold it?”

    My money’s on old Stewball.  Or is it Beetlebaum?

    • Anonymous

      But I don’t know–down the stretch it might be “Toilet Paper, wiping up the rear….”

      • Anonymous

        You’re on a roll Oowawa!!

      • Anonymous

        LOL

    • Anonymous

      Newtron is charging!
      Perrywinkle is blue!
      LOL! Where’s the turkey?
      Happy Thanksgiving!

  • Anonymous

    I can keep up with the theme.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KxGwtQxQIg

  • Anonymous

    Clams on the halfshell at Belmont, 8th race longshot at 30 to 1… Hysterically funny, Ani.

    • Anonymous

      Thanks Teak!

      (I’m assuming you meant me and not Ani.)  

      • William L. Donlon

        Keep Your Eye On A Dark Horse Named Andrew!!

         Wearing Orange & Blue

        He Came In First At Saratoga And  Belmont In 2010.

        His Father Was A “Stud” Named Mario.

        He Is Running Dead Last But —

        When This Gets Down And Dirty —

        He Is A Good ‘Mudder”.

        He has Positioned Himself Well With An Inside Shot At The Rail.

        He Just Made A Smart Move On The Backstretch Today

        Called An “Emergency Meeting To Address Budget Crisis Caused — By Failure Of The Super Committee.

        Two Dem Pollsters Have Examined The Lead Dem Horse, Obama,

        On Sunday –They Pronounced Him To Lame To Run, In The Wall Street Journal.

        Andrew May Be A Late Entry Into The Presidential Stakes!

        Just loved Your Article!!!
        Keep It Coming.

        • Anonymous

          Cuomo is a great observation and has been doing a good job in his first year as governor.

          BUT, this cycle he is too much of a risk for one reason. He was in charge of HUD inder Bill Clinton and it was on his watch that the bad mortgages were being forced by the government.

          • Anonymous

            Good point Hokma!

          • William L. Donlon

             In A Word: “Experience”

            What Did He Learn From It??

            Can He help Fix It??

            I’ve Been Impressed With His Moves Since He Took Office.

            His Dealings With The Public Employee Unions In Particular.

            I Think The Party Is Shopping  Around ,

            And Let’s Face It —

            There Isn’t Much That Is That Attractive On The Democratic Rack.

            He Took On Carl McCall In A Primary Fight In 2002 —

            So He Knows How The Game Is Played.

            He Married A Kennedy —
            Divorced —But Children —
            So Loyalties With A Ruling Clan.

            If Obama Stays In — It Will Be About Obama, —

            Therefor A Negative Campaign —

            More Of The Same — Which Isn’t Much.

            Andrew Could Be About  —

            Dare I Say It –

            Change & Hope!

            • Anonymous

              ‘He Married A Kennedy — Divorced —But Children — So Loyalties With A Ruling Clan”

              It was an extremely bitter divorce – his wife was caught fooling around on him – and now there is no love between the Kennedys and the Cuomos.

              I’m with you that based on his performance Cuomo would do a good job, but perception is everything and the GOP would use his association with HUD 24/7 in a campaign.

              If Obama is kicked out in 2012, you can bet Cuomo will be at the top of the list in 2016 or 2020.

              • William L. Donlon

                Speaking Of Horses

                She Swapped Jockeys Didn’t She?

                 Went For A Polo Player ??

                Who Do You See The Dems running in 2012 If Not Obama?

                • Anonymous

                  I understand it was her brother Bobby jr. who introduced her to this trust-fund polo player while Bobby was Cuom’s best friend.

                  If Obama backs out, it will be a set up for Hillary. There won’t be a contest (other than some far leftist).

          • Anonymous

            I am looking for “Experience”

            • William L. Donlon

              Shhh!

              Herman Might Hear You.

              Sorry  Foxyladi — Couldn’t resist.

            • Anonymous

              Biden has “experience”, I want experience and competence.

              Integrity would be nice but we are talking about politicians so I don’t expect that.

        • Anonymous

          May be as VP.  Not yet as President.

      • Anonymous

        oops. LOL my bad… LindaAnselma… :) (what oowawa said)

    • Anonymous

      LOL–”Ani”–short for “Anselmi.”  My bet’s on Teakwoodkite at 100 to 1, flying high over the rest of the field . . .