Rick Perry Answers Obama’s Prayer (UPDATED WITH ABC VIDEO)

As much as I would love to see Newt strip Obama in a debate, it is meaningless unless he can win the general, which he can`t. I`m not sure Mitt can either but he stands the best chance.

good point Larry.

A sad truth is God only gave us enough blood to operate one head at a time.

“Conservatives” seem determined to pick a horrifically flawed candidate when a perfectly good one (Romney) is at hand.  The quest for the “perfect” political religious conservative is instead giving these so-called “conservatives” embarrassment after embarrassment.  Their latest candidate, Newt, a serial adulterer, is a great role model. Consider also his $300K ethics fines, that he was booted from leadership in Congress, sits with Pelosi to support Gore’s AGW, dumped on Paul Ryan’s budget cutting proposals, and even supported Romney’s state-level health care that he now, for expediency, flips on.  Wow, nothing like trying to give the election to Obama.

Not really sure about Mitt and Obama…
I have noticed that the media is just now setting some fire under Romney and I mean just starting to set some fire under him.
I think the media has been handling with kid gloves.

The reason this bothers me is that I know there is more back there.  Is the media waiting until the General Election to tear him down.

Note in The View that they never mention Santorum.  Not once.

if newt is the nominee..I will sit this election out and blame the hyper conservatives who have blown our chances.

Great piece, Larry — and it is startling how much this post fits with your racism post.  It’s almost as if you were an analyst for the FBI’s behavioral science unit and you were observing a master criminal who also displays a great talent for conning people,

Then there’s your “people ain’t thinking with their brains.”  It reminds me of something I heard years ago (can’t recall the source) — that people’s voting decisions are governed by their emotions, not their intellect. I remember that I couldn’t bring myself to believe it, but it is probably true.  It sure explains the victories of unqualified candidates like Barack Obama.BTW:  Chris Wallace said that ABC Nightline is airing the ex-wife story over the next two nights.”… with female voters …” Amen, brother.

I can`t understand why the people around Romney don`t get him to go on stage tonight and say he wants to take the principles he learned at Bain and apply them to the Government. Trim down and make more efficient.

Because he’s still playing defense instead of offense.

if
the tea party thinks Gingrich is the answer then they have truely
earned the name tea baggers. and they shouldn’t dis Obama zombies for
falling for an empty suit when they are doing the same damn thing!

if
the tea party thinks Gingrich is the answer then they have truely
earned the name tea baggers. and they shouldn’t dis Obama zombies for
falling for an empty suit when they are doing the same damn thing!

A bit off topic…but ……
Rick Santorum wins Iowa caucus Certified results released on January 19 show Rick Santorum actually won the Jan. 3 Iowa
caucus, beating Mitt Romney by 34 votes.

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/sen-rick-santorum-1307361776-slideshow/

I had read that ABC planned to wait until after the SC primary vote. Evidently so much of what was in the interview has been leaked that they figured they needed to air it before it was all “old” news.

The ex-Mrs. Gingrich certainly unloaded on the Newt. If a “family values” Republican can still vote for this POS they are way beyond hypocrites.

I am so disgusted with the Republican Party right now, I can’t even see straight.  They keep blowing their opportunity to get Obama out of office.  First of all, you should never agree to this many debates.  It favors a good debater.  The debate allowed people in South Carolina to forget Newt’s anti-capitalist comments about Romney and Bain Capital.  He should still be in trouble with those comments, but he’s not because they just had to have another debate.   If Newt were to get the nomination, there is not way in hell, that Obama will agree to very many debates, and he will get away with that because the media will protect him.  Newt may appeal to conservatives, he makes a lot of us moderates cringe. 

Ok how in the H3LL did they lose votes. Sounding a bit like the 2008 DNC mess in regards to Hillary, especially when it seems that these votes were probably for Santorum.

Certified results released Thursday morning, first reported by the Des Moines Register, show the final count of votes from Jan. 3′s Republican presidential caucus ended with Santorum a whopping 34 votes ahead of Mitt Romney—with 29,839 votes compared to Romney’s 29,805.
But Republican officials told the paper that votes from eight precincts are missing and will never be certified so the party is expected to render a “split decision.” The Iowa Republican Party is expected to make the official announcement later this morning.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/santorum-may-won-iowa-romney-calls-results-virtual-123742689.html

Because the Presidency has limited control over the economy as well as limited control over government spending…..

That is the job of the US Congress….. Romney has to run on other things besides Bain….

Morality and politics…. Now that is a real joke….

Think Delegates….. Its all about delegates… The Iowa caucuses are really meaningless. The Iowa delegates will not disbursed until the convention….

Larry!  Larry!  Larry!

Newt — “Sex Appeal????  

Gives A Whole New Meaning To — “Love Is Blind”.

Herman Cain — NOW He’s The “Real Deal”

If The Art Of Seduction Was an Olympic Sport —

My Man Herman Would Have Several Gold Medals Around His Neck.

Bill Clinton, — The Big Bubba — Wouldn’t Qualify As Herman’s Stalking Horse.

Herman Has 0nly Suspended His Campaign —

That Means There Is Hope!!!

Think Of It!! — A Huge Stage — In The Center Of The Field —

Before A Packed Cowboy’s  Stadium —-

During The Super Bowl Half Time — Just Newt & Herman —

In The Great F— Off Debate Of The New Millennium! 

We Could Have A Cheering Section For Each Of Them —

Newt’s Three Wives Vs. A Bleacher Full Of Herman’s Girls

Don’t Stop Me — I’m ON A Roll Here.

All Ticket Proceeds Would Go To The Bill & Monica — Bimbo Retirement Fund.

WHAT???? — COULD HAPPEN!!

Come On! —  I Guy Can Dream — Can’t He?

How come Dr. Paul is never mentioned in all of these machinations?  (Not you, kinthenorthwest…I mean the media, the Rovian-driven machinery that “decides” for Iowans, through “gentlemen’s agreements”, how and which votes get counted….)

Ames, Iowa is left out of the mix entirely, because, of course, that’s a college area, more likely to vote Paul more than anyone else….

These political parties and operatives are SICKENING.

Neither one is worse.

We saw it unfold with Hillary, and now we’re watching it again. 

I think it’s sheer desperation, in all honesty.

They sense Santorum doesn’t have a shot in hell, against Barky, and are hoping against hope that Gingrich can once again “catch fire”.

Watch Cain try to swoop in for the kill.

Here is a song fitting for the day… http://youtu.be/yi2AX14eRbk  To All the Girls I Loved Before… with Nelson and Iglesias.
WTF is wrong with the GOP? This song is dedicated to the serial cheater who keeps wanting to bring up others’ past and character but who says his is less important than the fact that the country needs him. Narcissist. Don’t we have one alre…ady? I see Obama for another four since the front two are being vetted by the media in a way that Obama never was. Obama was hanging with shady people in the past snorting coke. That was not a big deal. OK. On the other side, the bible thumping family values crowd who went after Clinton should just be quiet… they are coming off as hypocrites, supporting this guy while they bashed Clinton as a Candidate. You can’t have it both ways and be credible. It’s all dirty politics and if God forgave Gringch he sure forgave Bill. You never heard that. As for Romney… being smart and legal about financial investments… may not be smart politically. Again, WTF is wrong with the GOP?

I would say Perry getting out of the race is a social/evangelical or a big part of the Republican Party dream. Now the non-Romney vote can begin to consolidate. Now if only Santorum or Gingrich gets out then the non-Romney vote can consolidate around one candidate. If Gingrich does well in S. Carolina, then he increasingly looks like the one to challenge the coronation of Romney.

Would Obama prefer to face Gingrich or Santorum rather than Romney? Probably. But, Romney is not a very good candidate either (at minimum he decreases the GOP base’s enthusiasm).

Really, the GOP should put one of their true small government guys (Santorum or Gingrich) in there, so we can finally have a decisive election, a clear choice on the role of government. Take it to the voters.

Better yet the GOP should put Ron Paul in there, so we can have an even more decisive election on the role of government. Lets settle this small government argument once and for all.

“Gingrich has a real problem with female voters.”

Actually, women in general have a problem with the entire GOP and their war on women (all this talk and action about restricting abortion, even restricting contraception, as long with spend cuts to children programs, etc.). 

Let’s see what Newt’s wife says today. She once bragged that she could end Newt’s political career with one media interview.

After tonight it could be just Santorum (who now it appears won Iowa), Paul and Romney.

I think that they are scared of Paul….
Hey even when Cain’s % was higher than Bachman, Perry and others the media ignored him.
It was not until Cain’s % passed Romney did they decide to talk about him.  However that was so they could FRY him…

I do not trust the National elections especially the primaries. It was so sick to find out that the DNC and GOP could do any thing they wanted with the votes.

Amen brother!

Larry – completely agree with everything you said in this article.  I was thinking the same thing before I came upon your article.  I detest Gingrich even more than Obama.  The only thing I disagree with you about, is that Newt has sex appeal??!!   Nuh.uh!

Let’s face it–Marianne is an angry, unreasonable bitch. How dare she expect her husband to be faithful to her?

Perhaps the fact he was messing around with her while still married to his first wife should have given her a clue. 

It doesn’t fly because he grew the government, increased spending etc. as governor and tends to impose an autocratic, commanding style that doesn’t work well with legislators. 

when you date a married guy or guy that is supposed to be commited DO NOT expect him to faithful to you…

. . .Swain contends the mainstream media, establishment Republicans, and the Obama administration are all pushing for Romney, which gives him an unfair advantage over the other candidates.

 ”It’s just pretty clear that Obama wants to run against Romney,” the professor says. “The mainstream media wants to make it a contest between the two, and the American people, especially Republicans, are being ill served by a contest that was never really a fair fight.”

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=1517504

Pretty much what I have been thinking over the several years that I have been aware of Newt’s two prior wives and what was out there on how the divorces took place; sure can’t think of Marianne as being “clueless”. 

In any case I will continue in my support of Newt until the monied interests and establishment take him out.  The only ideas, which I thought interesting and resonable, coming out of the debates where from Cain and Gringrich.

Guess I am one of those with not many smarts (my choice of words, not Larry’s) as I am looking for someone who will attack our fiscal problems and bring us back more toward our constitution than a weathervane of morality (although it would  be nice to have someone with intelligence, high moral and ethical standards, humility, and a hundred other traits, etc that we all would like to see).  I quite frankly do not believe that even Jesus Christ would be an acceptable candidate for president with the money changers, wheelers and dealers, and dozens and dozens of special interest groups directing our lives today.

Do you not realize that Newt is ass deep in the insiders and wheeler dealers of Washington?  You don’t become a Washington consultant by pandering to outsiders.  He is not the solution to Washington insider trading.  He’s a symptom of it.

Newt and first wife were in divorce proceedings when he an Marianne were messing around.

Calista and Newt had a 6 year affair, some of it in the marital bed while he was married to Marianne. I think that might tend to pi$$ a lot of women off.

Fact is he was/is a serial adulterer. Yet somehow you find fault with Marianne? Seriously?

NO, NO, NO.  those aren’t the daughters from the unreasonable Marianne.  those are the daughters from the first marriage. 

if it’s despicable for a man to put the wronged wife up to defend him when the baggage comes out, this is even worse.  it takes a special kind of scum to put up your children (even if they are grown women) to defend you.   these are the daughters from the first marriage, the one to whom he brought the divorce papers to the hospital where she was being treated for cancer.  but only because she asked him to. 

all those republicans who called for Pres Clinton’s impeachment should be ashamed of themselves. 

i am hopeful that SC voters are better than this. 

Somehow I’ve got a feeling that the part about Newt lying in the sack with Calista while having a post coital phone call with wife Marianne, telling Marianne how much he loves her, is not going to go over too well with the evangelical crowd.  Of course, some of the evangelical crowd’s leadership, the Rev. Billy Jim Hargis comes to mind, really don’t have any call (no pun intended) to throw stones, themselves. 

he’s more than a sympton.  he’s probably one of the malignant viruses keeping it alvie.  but just to be clear, he’s only doing it to add historical accuracy.  

i’m with you on the sex appeal part.  does nothing for me

In The Great F— Off Debate Of The New Millennium!

you are good. 

What I find extraordinary is all the women here who are taking swings at Marianne. He cheats on two wives, and who knows maybe has cheated on #3 and yet somehow Marianne is the one they attack. Seriously?

how can there be certified results with 8 precints missing? and what’s the story behind the missing precints?

don’t blame the teabaggers.  it’s the evangelicals. 

The hyper conservatives and the family values voters. LOL!

Conservatives have been longing for their own stud ever since the Clinton presidency.  Incredibly, Newt seems to have been chosen to fit that bill (no pun intended).  He’ll be gone in a couple of months, but the sexual escapades of the Pillsbury Doughboy should provide some entertainment until the main event.  Just visualize Newt in the sack with Calista sharing a post-coital phone call with Marianne.

gingrich never caught fire.  do they forget that the only thing gingrich ever won was a local election in a GA district that had probably been redistricted to favor a republican.  it remains a republican stronghold.  that’s it.  it’s akin to running pelosi because she had been the Speaker.  neither SF nor GA’s 6th are representative of the USA. 

i can think of few republicans who can inspire more nationwide disdain than gingrich.

and his trash talk that he wants to bloody obama’s nose is beneath a presidential candidate! 

i’m pretty sure that’s where i am too. 

Thats what I would like to know…The primary is just starting and it already stinks…

Yet as I learned in 2008, the GOP And DNC have final say so in the primaries and it doesnt matter what the voter wants or how they vote.

and my favorite is to undo the constitutional notion of separation of powers and its explicit desire to insulate the fed judiciary from political pressure by granting life-time tenure.  and the local committees (a la comrade committees set up in communist countries) to determine which deportable aliens get to stay. 

and the fact that his failure to get on the VA primary ballot is akin to Pearl Harbor (you know because Newt’s political comeback is worth at least the lives of the thousand servicemen who died on Dec 7.)

NUTS.

whether you like Newt or not, he can get his ziggers across

http://www.verumserum.com/?p=36903

let’s hold off. the republican voters have yet to vote.  the party bosses, aided by the media who wants a continued battle, are pushing the newt will win.

i could easily see paul score above newt. 

i frankly don’t see newt strip obama in a debate.  whatever else, obama will take the mantle of the presidency into the debate.  newt would come off as an pompous bigot. 

The ex-Mrs Gingrich should have known that when you play around with a married man, that married man will be doing it again…
Karma is a Bitch…….just as a side note I dont condone Newt’s marrital affairs…
Yet I think Obama has done a good of lowering the sandards for Government jobs and positions….Hey look at some of the guys he appointed as CZARs.

i don’t think that romney has any skeletons other than that he’s rich.  he’s a mormon.  he doesn’t drink.  he doesn’t smoke.  he loves his wife.  contrast : romney’s wife is diagnosed with MS, he tells her no matter what we’ll make it through together; i’ll work less; we’ll renovate the house so you don’t have to go up and down stairs.

romney tells marianne: you gotta share me or i’m outta here. 

yeah, classy guy.  reminds me of that other son of the south, johnny edwards who impregnated a woman while his wife was dying of cancer.  not only are they both lacking the same empathy gene, and decency gene, they share the unfounded grandiosity gene.

I’m not  looking for perfection!!!!
I am looking for a winner!!!!
I’m not looking forward to the first mistress of the 
White House, but men in politics have done much 
worse and in different rooms of the White House.

So I’m not big on Neocon’s and of raging Libertarian’s,
but what I have seen of politics lately is you have to
be mean dirty and smart, yes I am finding out I am
not going to get the whole enchilada.

Ex’s and old girlfriends,
I don’t give a flying fuck.

What I know about Newt is more then I have ever
learned about Obummer before he was elected.
I don’t need the media to choose my president, 
but there will always be a portion of the voters
in this country who will let that happen. 

So what to do, VET THEM, search, dig and probe
look into all their little dark corners before November,
I may not get the whole enchilada but I will trade
that for a mean Son Of A Bitch who can Win.

I just threw up in my mouth with that image.

it’s ironic that perry sounded classy by comparison to the newter. 

and speaking as a catholic, the church really needs to get its act together.  really, on what basis can they grant a man who was married for 18 years an annullment?

It’s typical.  I do agree that Marianne married a known cheater… but what Newt put her through was too much.  Especially since he at the time wanted to impeach Clinton for doing the same and was preaching family values.  There is a disconnect there.  At least Romney has family values… standing by his wife with MS and who is a survivor of cancer.

I agree… I sympatize with the Tea Party… but am no Evangelical.  I think he is a horrible candidate to run.

yuck. 

I want to gag every time I see that pudgy little pink man.  YUCK.  I’d rather live in celibacy forever.

$$$$$$$$$$

Gingrich is the worst kind of scum. Not only is he a serial adulterer, he did so in both occasions while his wives were ill. That’s the type of morality he practices.

Calling him a piece of shit is an insult to feces everywhere.

If Romney is smart and he does reasonably well in SC, he should really start hammering on Barky, and NOT HOLD BACK, because what many voters are now accepting, is that all the candidates suck.

Once the gravity of that sinks in, they will want to see someone trounce Team Obama, pull out all the stops, and devastate the Democratic Party, to the point where there is no choice, but to salt the earth, so that nothing will ever grow there again….

He must be PREEMPTIVE, and behave as though he already has the nomination.

I do not think the GOP will take this route.  This is why I believe they are destined to fail.

and don’t forget what jon stewart and the night-time comedians are going to do with this.

he balanced the budget, that had been running a deficit when he came in.  he left a $2 billion surplus.  he reduced taxes (although he did raise fees on some things). 

I just blogged about Gingrich’s hatred of our Constitution. Have a look if you like:

Emperor Wannabe Gingrich ADMITS He Won’t Follow the Constitution

And what does it say that “family values” Perry has endorsed him?

Yes Larry, I do realize Gringrich is an insider, i.e., wheeler dealer.  But then, what politician is not?  Also, my understanding is that Gringrich played a role, maybe not as significant as what I have read, in achieving balanced budgets in the Clinton years; would that not have involved some wheeling and dealing (so probably could not have been achieved with wheeling dealing — guess it is probably more politically correct to refer to it as compromising)?  Quiet frankly, in your opinion of our current choices who is not part of the in crowd (wheeler dealer or monied interest).

I do enjoy reading this blog and do not comment very often but it kind of irks me when people so readily accept what one party in a failed relationship has to say, especially when there may be reason for anger on one or both sides.

Cannot disagree with you in regard to Newt’s lacking ethical and/or moral standards.  However, I look at him as the only current choice who can probably get our fiscal house in order and who will maybe, just maybe, lessen the role of government in our lives.  Like a lot of what Ron Paul has to say but disagree with a good deal of his foreign policy statements and find the zero percent income tax totally out of it (maybe with 18th and 19th century tarriffs we could fund our government but into today’s world, impossible).   

This moderate would never vote for Gingrich. I won’t vote for Obama either, of course.

He warned that Gingrich has so much baggage, including the ethics violations for which he was fined $300,000, that an “October surprise” during the 2012 election would be inevitable.

“There was a 7-to-1 vote in that Ethics Committee, which means the material was pretty convincing, even to the four Republicans, three of which voted against him,” Sununu said. “I think it reflects on his reliability as a leader and, frankly, reflects on the fact that [House Minority Leader Nancy] Pelosi was part of that process, and whatever Congresswoman Pelosi knows, President Obama knows.“And if Pelosi knows, Obama knows. And if Obama knows, this is certainly a ripe package for an October surprise.”

My sister-in-law’s husband tried to get an annulment after 20+ yrs. of marriage, but even his sisters spoke against him at the annulment proceeding…It was not granted…but he went to FL and became active in two different Catholic parishes as an assistant priest (whatever that’s called). My sister-in-law told the pastor of the first church that she was still his wife…so her ex just moved…with good wishes from the pulpit of the first church.
.

The word I was looking for is “Deacon”

i am hopeful that SC voters are better than this.

Perhaps Santorum will get a bump from this. Not that I support Jesus Jr. but it may take some of the wind out of gasbag Gingrich.

Do you think Gingrich’s infidelity will come up in tonight’s debate?

Romney actually has experience of governing.  NEWT?  ZERO.  Romney has run major events (e.g., the Olympics.  NEWT?  ZERO.  Romney has run successful businesses not dependent on Washington cash.  NEWT?  ZERO.

So, I don’t quite understand why you think NEWT superior on doing something he has never done.  I’m interested in your answer.

That neither one of them has the faintest idea what family values are.

I thought that too about the bloody nose comment. People talk about Obama and the thugs from Chicago and then cheer on a thuggish comment from Newt. It’s appalling.

Oh damn, now I’ve gotta get out the brain cleaner again. Gag.

Awesome points. But does Romney have the cajones to compare and contrast his and Gingrich’s moral values at a debate? If he did, I might actually sign up to campaign for him even though I am not a republican, or a conservative.

Yup, nothing like a little sex to get the creative juices flowing. Although sex and the Newt seem to get more of the gag reflex going. But he seems to have won over those “conservative family value” types in South Carolina. Unbelievable!

But Jrterrier, it’s all Marianne’s fault. She should have know better. When all else fails, blame the woman. The only thing I find more disgusting that Newt Gingrich is the women that are blaming Marianne.

Yet, in 2016, he will be back…they all will.

I think this is a plus for Santorum.

You must admit that Gingrich is talented though. The guy can speak out of both sides of his mouth and his ass at the same time.

“Romney actually has experience of governing.  NEWT?  ZERO.”

Being the leader of the House and formulating and getting legislation passed is, last time I checked, considered experience in governing in the U.S. Newt controlled one-third of government.

Maybe you mean Executive experience. There have been many many Presidents which have had no Executive experience.

Romney actually had a pretty bad job creation record when he was Governor and many conservatives do not like his governing experience in reforming healthcare. Romney had such a good time govering or with his government executive experience that he did not even both to run for re-election as governor. Why did he not run for re-election? 

But, Romney is not a very good candidate either (at minimum he decreases the GOP base’s enthusiasm).

Romney is electable. That should increase the GOP base’s enthusiasm. If they only had a brain.

i imagine santorum will bring it up.  santorum made a veiled reference to marriage at the last debate.  or the moderators will. 

and they should because newt has been saying that the bain experience is relevant because it speaks to a mitt’s character.  and newt also made that lofty defense of marriage between a man and a woman (3,000 years of tradition). 

All Ticket Proceeds Would Go To The Bill & Monica — Bimbo Retirement Fund.

Too funny.!!! I almost pissed myself.

The Olympics were Romney’s post-MA U.S. Senate seat loss / pre-Governorship campaign. He did not ‘run’ the Olympics, in the sense that 1) he was part of a committee; and 2) many of the millions of dollars spent were not recouped (such as transportation infrastructure).
http://www.wbur.org/npr/145190620/a-look-at-romneys-olympic-legacy

Pat & Jrterrier: If Super Bowl Sunday Is To Near To Arrange This —

How About A Cage Smack Down During “March Madness”.

It Could Be Tag Teams —

Newt & His Naughty Wives Vs. The Best of Herman’s Hooters.

Final During Halftime Of The National Championship Game.

is it the pudgy or the pink part?   LOL

LOL I do love your posts William.

Just watched an awesome new ad from Ron Paul. The dude is going straight for Gingrich’s jugular. Tonight’s debate should be quite entertaining. Woo Hoo!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWKTOCP45zY&feature=youtu.be

Right on!

Freakin hilarious

LOL.

romney isn’t.  he’s never cashed in on the governorship. he was a businessman before he was a governor. dr paul isn’t either.  he was a doctor before going into politics.

santorum and gingrich are because they’ve never held another job in their lives.  they were politicians and then took money from industry groups. 

the olympics were going bankrupt  before romney took them over.  that’s why they asked him to come in and save them.

Right, Newt Gingrich’s daughters are brainless zombies who were FORCED to defend him.
At least get the story about the first wife right. She DID NOT HAVE CANCER.
But don’t take it from me, take it from Jackie, who wrote about it almost a year ago. 
http://townhall.com/columnists/jackiegingrichcushman/2011/05/08/setting_the_record_straight

As far as the Clinton impeachment goes, he was impeached for LYING UNDER OATH.  Another fact you ignore.  Why do you think Clinton was stripped of his license to practice law?

I don’t care about the pile up on Newt.  But at least get your facts straight.

Probably because he IS classy.

What about Romney’s Cayman Island investments….
Aren’t Cayman Island investment a way for people to hide money if they  dont want to pay US taxes

off topic
file sharing site shut down
then annonymous shuts down DOJ web

http://www.3news.co.nz/Megauploads-Kim-Schmitz-arrested-in-Auckland-site-shut-down/tabid/412/articleID/240007/Default.aspx

I have always found Newt to be a bit too full of himself. (That’s an understatement, for those who can’t tell.)   I am a moderate, and ex-Dem who remembers the little New chew toy my Great Dane played with.  It would be extremely hard for me to think of voting for Newt.  His time was so yesterday.  I am still in as much disbelief as I was before about his running for this election.  I can’t see the Ron Paul young people wanting to vote for him, or any sort of young person.  But especially for the ex-Dems of my generation (Go ahead and rag on the Boomers) who, by leaving the party, did not go so right as to covert to the religion of St. Reagan, placing Newt on the ticket would be the cause for MUCH inner turmoil.  We all remember him with far too much disdain.I think I would have to pray for a Ron Paul third-party try or seriously plan my move from the U.S.

And if Newt is playing a GWB game of now not wanting to be out-Christianed so he can get the neo-con vote, he’s not even as close to seeming as sincere as GWB.  I don’t see him as like St. Augustine either, whose mother Monica (what a strange coincidence of names) cried so much over his wicked ways when he was young that the church elder she spoke with assured her that her tears would ensure the future saint’s salvation.  (I know nothing of Newt’s mother, but I just believe most mothers would be totally ashamed of Newt’s behaviors toward his wives, Most would have to cringe at his attempts now to feel those past scandals aren’t going to matter.) If Newt is playing up to that image of the changed man or the “born again” Christian for the social conservatives, hoping his statements about becoming Catholic and changing his ways will make them all think he has character now, they all need to have cold water from a baptismal font dumped on them quickly–and that includes Hannity.  A true Christian would NOT, even if a totally changed man, jeopardize walk so arrogantly in the world.

I agree with Larry’s assessment of the nature of some in the Republican party–the (sorry about this language) macho shit-headedness of many of them always turned me against them.  However, as far as Perry is concerned, I have a slightly different take on him.  To me he has always appeared to be someone who hasn’t matured since middle school mentally.  He could possibly win a debate in a middle school student council election.  Instead, I think he is just pouting that Gov. Mitt outdid him in this run.  I saw him coming into the election so cocksure he was going to blow everyone, especially Mitt, away.  He just can’t be mature enough to admit the better gov is winning, so he throws his support to the older man.

This meme that Gingrich would run circles around Obama in a debate is a crazy reason to support him.  In not one of the debates did I hear Romney say something really stupid, not did I witness him being childish, too arrogant, or too uninformed.  Why is it that no one believes Romney would be able to hold his own in a debate with the arrogant telepromter reader?

Looks like the media has started hammering Romney.
.Romney seems to have millions in the Cayman Islands, yet its not a tax haven????
Ok I dont know much about that since when I die I dont think I will have even come close to making a million in my life time.  However from all my reading I seem to remember moving money over to the  Cayman Island is a way the very rich get out of US Taxes..

CHARLESTON, S.C. — Under duress two days before the pivotal South Carolina primary, Republican front-runner Mitt Romney acknowledges he has part of his millions invested in the Cayman Islands, although his aides say he never used the location as a tax haven.
http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20120119/NEWS02/701199904/1005

Google:  Newt Gingrich+animals

He put himself forward as a friend of animals on numerous occasions & yet not a word out of him while Clinton was destroying the Belgrade Zoo, ditto W & the Iraqi Zoo

Well Larry, would not being Speaker of the House be somewhat in the realm of governing?  And I would think that maybe being an elected representative would provide some experience in the governing process (how bills flow, how committees work, the interaction between parties, and the art of compromise-which I have read somewhere is one definition of governing.

Have to admit that I am probably somewhat biased about Romney’s saving the Olympics (or running the Olympics or whatever you want to call it).  A good friend in SLC at the time kept referring to “The Romney Olympics” because he said many in SLC felt it was more about Romney promoting himself than it was of promoting the SLC or U.S. Olympics — know it really burned his butt that Romney had his pix on some button(s) for the Olympics to such an extent that he told me that I would have to make other arrangements to purchase some because he would not do it.  And to this day he does not have anything good to say about Romney’s involvement in those Olympics and says he used it only as an opportunity to his foot in the door for national politics. 

I do not know enough about Newt’s consulting business clientele to be able to respond to the “not dependent on Washington cash” comment.  I do know there are thousands of former elected officials and former government (includes military) employees who form their own or participate in businesses based upon experience and/or training gained as an elected official or government employee and are paid either directly from or indirectly because of the federal government.  Guess instead of the government funding my main concern has been more about whether the business or practise is legal. 

100% correct.

Most men won’t admit it, but they secretly ADMIRE the way Gingrich handles his stable.

We look in our mirrors and see our imperfections.

Guys like Newt look and see a tanned, muscular, Roman God beneath the layers of flab, and Consort hairspray.

He has a mood disorder, like Barky.

Manic depression can give men delusions of grandeur and, significantly, powerful surges of manly desire, he appears to be uncapable of controlling.

The difference between Barky’s and Newt’s struggles with chemical imbalance is that Barky’s seems to be under psychopharmacological treatment, that dampens his urges (to whatever extent).

Newt’s toughening it out, the old-school way, leaving a swath of broken hearts and damaged goods in his wake.

If Marianne can scrape a few bucks together and bolster her retirement, good for her!

And Newt will ALWAYS have his defenders, because there will always be those who long to see him debate Barky, pine for the “glory days” of the 1980s, and see him as the only one who “understands” them.

Against all reason.

American men won’t vote for a gelding, which was Huntsman’s tragic personality downfall.

They want neon sex and doom, and if they’re not getting any, they damn well want the commander-and -chief to be racking up his fill.

It’s human nature.

Come on!  Installing Czars, and pushing through loans to his backers, i.e., Solyndra, growing the federal government, so that now it employs more people than ever, and at higher wages.  The President can effect the economy.  This President has never even prepared a budget.  We need a leader, and Obama is no leader!

Newt was a complete fuck up as Speaker.  He failed as a manager and was ultimately removed because of his incompetence.

Who in h— is voting for a new Pope or Play Girl heart throb anyway? Everyone has been screaming we need someone who can debate the wonder boy from Kenya. Newt should fill that bill nicely. Everyone wanted some candidates to fold and settle on one [candidate], well one just folded but that didn’t satisfy them. Now they think any candidate drop-out should endorse their blond haired blue eyed boy of choice. LOL!!! Yep human nature is a bitch. 

Just because people keep saying that over and over again, doesn’t make it true.  For all we really know, they may love the idea of running against Gingrich.  Remembering when everyone kept telling us how brilliant Obama was.  Absolutely no truth to that bit of fiction.

What really gets me is all of the value voters are willing to overlook this man’s values because he is a blood thirsty neocon.  Some values.

That is true that they were impeaching him for lying under oath.  He should have never had the question asked of him.  The Republicans were going after him for years on the morality issue.  Now they are silent about Newt.  Double standards for the religious right don’t you think?

Romney DID run the SLC Olympics and deserved all the credit for turning around what was a disaster into the most successful olympics to date.

Back to censorship. Wylrae makes the same point I do, so why do you censor my comment.

Romney is such a great candidate that he can only get 25-30% of GOP support.

annonymous shuts down more sites

http://gizmodo.com/5877679/anonymous-kills-department-of-justice-site-in-megaupload-revenge-strike

annonymous shuts down more sites

http://gizmodo.com/5877679/anonymous-kills-department-of-justice-site-in-megaupload-revenge-strike

Did you read the Starr Report? 900 pages of Ken Starr’s creepy exhaustive recitation of every sex act Clinton ever performed… I don’t think lying under oath was ever mentioned. I don’t think the impeachment was really about lying under oath, do you?

Also, whilst we’re citing facts here: he was impeached but not convicted. Under American jurisprudence that means he was innocent.

Did you read the Starr Report? 900 pages of Ken Starr’s creepy exhaustive recitation of every sex act Clinton ever performed… I don’t think lying under oath was ever mentioned. I don’t think the impeachment was really about lying under oath, do you?

Also, whilst we’re citing facts here: he was impeached but not convicted. Under American jurisprudence that means he was innocent.

total misinformation.  for one, this is just speculation because he has not disclosed his tax returns; won’t do it until tax time.

for two, money in the cayman could have no impact on the amount of taxes he paid; or it might.  but you cannot determine that question until the tax returns can be reviewed.  romney’s campaign has issued a statement saying his tax rate was not affected by the cayman investment.

let’s wait.

gingrich had said he would disclose his tax returns today.  does anyone know if he did?

“Anonymous” is a government operation, no more, no less.

If it were some band of wild-eyed geeks playing anarchist hackers, it would have been taken down long ago.

It’s not good.

We can’t take the pro-business Romney supporters’ word on this one, because they favor these types of “off-shoring” because their profit margins and personal fortunes hinge on them.  So they rationalize it.

The problem for any anti-Obama voter is that Romney is perceived by Democrats as the Republican candidate that is least rational.

Democrats who don’t want to vote for Obama and can only rationalize it to their “Obot” friends and loved ones can legitimately claim Barky’s anti-business attitudes and economic failures as a valid personal motivation.

The limousine liberals and even the progressives in my world are not unsuccessful people, by any means.   But we’ve been conditioned (over decades) to feel obligated to explain our votes, as if they were collectively owned, in order to remain “authentic”, within our own little rarified circles.

Political donations feed into this peer pressure.  It’s a measure of your own success, and “authenticity”.

This is where Romney may run into problems with ”pro-business” Democrats, who measure each other’s judgement socially, by who they support.

When you start getting into a candidate’s personal and professional fortunes being “offshored”, the Caymans, etc.,
it feeds into the whole “privatize the profits, socialize the losses” meme the Democrats have (successfully) inculcated into those of us who still have to live and work with Democrats who are still willing partisans.

The Republican partisans are not helping, either, because they’re still treating Romney as an in-house debate, and ignoring millions of pro-business Democrats, newly minted conservatives from the Hillary debacle, etc.

They are casting off countless potential votes by showing themselves as political neophytes and ideological purists, at a time where economic recovery is key in their own perceptions, and the newbies are willing to overlook a LOT.

The Republicans need better, more coherent explanations to the position statements and behavior patterns of ALL of their candidates, so that ALL voters can participate in this process without thinking the nation has gone completely mad. 

I dont blame the woman ….but she was the prior other woman so she should have known better….

I dont condone any of what any of the politicians are getting away with…I think we started going downhill with the Clinton mess that should have been just let be instead of the impeachment mess…
But Obama’s CZAR choices have not helped boost our national standards.

The only way to rid ourselves of BO is by reinstating the Glass Steagall Act by passing the RETURN TO PRUDENT BANKING ACT introduced by Marcy Kaptur D Ohio and then passing the NEED ACT of 2011 introduced by Denis Kucinich D Ohio.   Then Congress could start uttering Credit as opposed to the dreaded monetary system we would have collapsed by reinstating Glass Steagall and handing back the unpayable debt to the oligarchs.   To defeat the current Administration is not Rocket Science.    We have the tools at our finger tips and we have the legislation ready to roll.  We have the means to create credit as Alexander Hamilton intended in the Constitution and not be sunk with the FED and the oligarchs.   Why in the world are we procrastinating?   This GOP Campaing has to be a conspiracy designed by the oligarchs to bamboozle the electorate, but there again with the INternet at our fingertips we can spread the word, it’s not treason, FDR did it and used credit to finance great projects that advanced civilization in the country and around the world, especially in Europe, for sovreign nations to work together.   We can do it again.
We need the credit because we have to finance things that will take maybe two generations to complete and we cannot start balancing the budget like Ron Paul is saying with his Austrian economic misunderstanding of the Human Economy.   The GOP is not telling it like it is, they are just treading water and they will sink just like the Italian Cruise ship sank, and they will all be ordering dinner for two, just like the captain of that ship was doing, after the boat crashed into that reef.
You will never escape with this type of politics.  We need another FDR or someone with the spirit of FDR and JFK to come to the fore, with the Constitution in his hand or her hand, and stand on the principles that are enshrined in that document.   FOR THE GENERAL WELFARE.     Anyone who has any other agenda that getting Obama out of office, reinstating Glass Steagall, and having Congress to utter Credit so our people can go back to work, and make an alliance with Russia and China et al to save humanity, work on joint mutually beneficial projects with credit being uttered for them to get back on their feet too by forming treaties with those sovreign nations through the auspices of our Constitution.   Thus we will avoid World War Three and get on with being what God intended for us to be when he created us in his express image.    There………………………..sounds better than Michelle’s solution “just eat your veggies”  Right!!!!!!!!!!

I think that can be said of just about all politicians.

But what else does he have to offer?  Certainly not stable foreign policy….

His repeated references to “European-style socialism” reveal what little regard he has, for long-time, loyal allies.  No diplomacy, there…

And if he has nothing else but experience as a megabanker, he can’t defeat Barky.

Well, CNN ran with the story; it was beautiful to see John King get his @$$ handed back to him, though Newt was a ‘hot head’ for much of the evening.  It was probably intended to be that way.  CNN really does love Obama .  Anyway, Newt’s daughters did defend their dad, but if he did the first wife (and their Mom) wrong, why didn’t they run him ‘under the bus’ as well?

Larry I commend you for using the word “sarcasm” where a lot of people incorrectly use “irony”.

And because this is Newt you automatically conclude that he put his daughters up to defending him!  Yeah maybe that is the way it went down but then again maybe one or both of the daughters felt/knew that what Marianne was saying was a little slanted and were upset that ABC was so willing to go with her story.  I don’t know but then you probably really don’t either.  Frankly from what I have read the past few years in looking things up on the internet this whole thing is pretty much old news.

As for Clinton’s impeachment.  I was against it (maybe because until May 31, 2008 I had been a registered Dem. for some 40+ years).  I felt at the time that Clinton’s wanderings were a matter for Hillary and him to handle although I probably would have advised her to talk with a baseball bat in her hands.  Feel Newt’s divorces were between he and his ex-wives.

I will probably continue to support Newt until the establishment removes him and then will probably have to vote for whoever is running against Obama.  How much easier it would be for me if there were no term limits and Bill Clinton could run again.  Even though I pledged after 5/31/08 to never vote for another democrat for president, I would probably have to break that pledge as I consider him one of the three best (if not the best) presidents in my lifetime.  I am in my seventies and have some quite clear remembrances of Truman so have been around for a few presidents. Oh, the two worst in my lifetime have been Obama the worst with Carterbeing a not too distant second.

I guess my rant is mainly that people seem to automatically take sides and depending on their beliefs, etc. side with the comments of one party or the other.  As I say, I was not there to hear what either Newt or Marianne said and even if I were, it is none of my business, it is theirs!

Larry also said “Gingrich has a real problem with female voters.”  I think he was pointing at the men with the sex appeal comment.

“I am looking for someone who will attack our fiscal problems and bring us back more toward our constitution”
Swell. keep looking and let me know when you find them.

What’s bad about this is the fact that this would have provided Santorum with a bit of momentum in N.H.  Granted, he’d lose to Romney, but more folks would have listened and perhaps voted for him.  Santorum’s strategy may have changed as well.  It’s a shame that the media has completely backed Romney for some reason.  They must see that he’d lose to Obama, so they ignore Huntsman (who’s out), and Paul– though his supporters keep the pressure on the media.

“Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned,”  I do not give a rat’s ass about the nominee, I will vote for whomever runs against Obamadinijad and his regeme of thieving assholes, plain and simple !!!

You can take Obama out from Africa, but you can’t take Africa out from Obama!
http://youtu.be/G7pLlBtoXrs

The fact is Obama has done a very good job in very difficult circumstances. Now everyone is seeing what the alternative is and they are going to realize that Obama is easily the best choice. The Republicans have absolutely no one who can compete with Obama.

The fact is Obama has done a very good job in very difficult circumstances. Now everyone is seeing what the alternative is and they are going to realize that Obama is easily the best choice. The Republicans have absolutely no one who can compete with Obama.

Romney is not a perfectly good candidate. He’s simply the best choice the Republican’s have… but that’s nothing for Romney to crow about – it’s just that the other choices are unbelievably terrible. If Romney does win the nomination (and he likely still will) he will be the weakest general election candidate since Barry Goldwater. 

He is incredibly unlikable robotic man who plays perfectly into the narrative of the 1% vs the 99%. He is a tax dodging Gordon Gecko-esque corporate raider who doesn’t care at all about average Americans. 
In 2008 Democrats had a battle between Hillary Clinton & Barack Obama … compare that to today’s battle between Gingrich & Romney and it’s truly laughable. Either Clinton or Obama would have won 2008 easily (as Obama did.) Both Gingrich & Romney will lose by a wide margin. They are absolutely *TERRIBLE* candidates. I don’t think people fully realize how bad they are.

Romney is not a perfectly good candidate. He’s simply the best choice the Republican’s have… but that’s nothing for Romney to crow about – it’s just that the other choices are unbelievably terrible. If Romney does win the nomination (and he likely still will) he will be the weakest general election candidate since Barry Goldwater. 

He is incredibly unlikable robotic man who plays perfectly into the narrative of the 1% vs the 99%. He is a tax dodging Gordon Gecko-esque corporate raider who doesn’t care at all about average Americans. 
In 2008 Democrats had a battle between Hillary Clinton & Barack Obama … compare that to today’s battle between Gingrich & Romney and it’s truly laughable. Either Clinton or Obama would have won 2008 easily (as Obama did.) Both Gingrich & Romney will lose by a wide margin. They are absolutely *TERRIBLE* candidates. I don’t think people fully realize how bad they are.

Romney is terrible. Look how he responds to the slightest pressure. Imagine when he has to go through what Obama went through in 2008. People underestimate just how good Obama is. He’s an incredible politician. Romney can’t hold a candle to the President. 

Romney is terrible. Look how he responds to the slightest pressure. Imagine when he has to go through what Obama went through in 2008. People underestimate just how good Obama is. He’s an incredible politician. Romney can’t hold a candle to the President. 

Romney may not have the personal problems that Gingrich has but neither does Obama. And the difference is that Romney comes across as boring personally rather than likable. 

Romney’s got so many holes in his candidacy when it comes to the general election it’s truly amazing to think he is the GOP’s best chance.
1. Endless record of flip-flops. This alone was enough to destroy Kerry and Romney has about 100X as many flip-flops as Kerry did. It’s not even close. Romney has flip-flopped on almost every major issue.2. Offshore bank accounts. This looks exceedingly shady.

3. Gordon Gecko corporate raider. Romney is “Mr 1%.” He thinks $374,000 in a year is “not very much” money. He is completely disconnected from the reality most Americans face. He is an unlikable smarmy Richie Rich type. This would be bad during any election… but particularly during the Occupy Wall Street election of 2012.

4. Won’t release his tax returns. What is he hiding? 

5. His tax plan cuts taxes for rich people like himself even lower than they already are. This is a terrible plan regardless – but when tied into his personal wealth …. it’s truly despicable. 

6. He is not “cool.” He doesn’t seem to be able to handle pressure. Obama will push his buttons. 

7. No foreign policy experience (going up against a President with many huge foreign policy victories.) 

Romney may not have the personal problems that Gingrich has but neither does Obama. And the difference is that Romney comes across as boring personally rather than likable. 

Romney’s got so many holes in his candidacy when it comes to the general election it’s truly amazing to think he is the GOP’s best chance.
1. Endless record of flip-flops. This alone was enough to destroy Kerry and Romney has about 100X as many flip-flops as Kerry did. It’s not even close. Romney has flip-flopped on almost every major issue.2. Offshore bank accounts. This looks exceedingly shady.

3. Gordon Gecko corporate raider. Romney is “Mr 1%.” He thinks $374,000 in a year is “not very much” money. He is completely disconnected from the reality most Americans face. He is an unlikable smarmy Richie Rich type. This would be bad during any election… but particularly during the Occupy Wall Street election of 2012.

4. Won’t release his tax returns. What is he hiding? 

5. His tax plan cuts taxes for rich people like himself even lower than they already are. This is a terrible plan regardless – but when tied into his personal wealth …. it’s truly despicable. 

6. He is not “cool.” He doesn’t seem to be able to handle pressure. Obama will push his buttons. 

7. No foreign policy experience (going up against a President with many huge foreign policy victories.) 

What Bain Capital did was lay off workers and take the profits. The idea that this applies to the US government is absurd. 

What Bain Capital did was lay off workers and take the profits. The idea that this applies to the US government is absurd. 

“electable” … why? Why would America want to elect a guy who made a fortune laying off workers? Why would America want to elect a guy who wants to cut taxes for the filthy rich (like himself) even lower than they already are? Romney only appears electable compared to the rest of the GOP clowns. He is not electable. President Obama will win again.

An important point about Romney is just how unlikable he is. PPP’s recent polling had him at -15% favorable vs. unfavorable nationally (38% favorable vs 53% unfavorable.) This is a guy that just rubs most people the wrong way. When you add that personal lack of likability with some terrible policies that only benefit the top 1% even more … there’s just no path to the White House for someone like that. Thankfully.

LOL. Obama vs. Newt in a debate would be a dream come true for the Obama campaign. You have to realize that Newt’s “bully routine” may play well to the idiots that make up the base of the GOP but it would not play very well nationally. 

Obama vs. Gingrich would be LBJ vs. Goldwater. The Obama campaign is salivating at the thought that the GOP is actually this dumb. 

May be wrong, but thought that Gingrich was a professor, history or geography, I think.  If I am correct, I still consider teaching, no matter at what level, as a job.  Admittedly what some professors are teaching is questionable, but they are still receiving a paycheck.