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Below, some thoughts, some psychoanalysis on Mitt Romney …

What’s below is not a full essay. It’s merely some notes I jotted down throughout the day. So don’t expect a polished essay. My purpose is to share my notes with you, and elicit feedback from you — as well as your own ideas.

On Monday night, Newt’s stand-out performance was enhanced by its contrast with a stuttering, twitchy Mitt Romney, who was off his game. Mitt evidenced so much anxiety made one wonder if he’d gotten bad news right before the debate.

If I were a psychiatrist, I’d consider the rise of pressure that Mitt was feeling because of the preceding days’ media reports that, if Romney can win South Carolina, he will have , in effect, sewn up the nomination. That’s huge. That means that what he’s been working towards for nearly eight years may finally become real.

There is the ghost of former Michigan governor George Romney, his father, specifically of his father’s ill-fated presidential race in 1968, brought down by his own unforced error (his “brainwashed” remark) and by a supposed ally, NY governor Nelson Rockefeller, who hinted that, while he maintained support for his friend George, he might run for president himself.

His father’s ghost reminds Mitt of how easily it can all fall apart. Consciously or unconsciously, his father’s ghost haunts this highly successful man, who can start a business from scratch and has built his own fortune, daddy’s money or not.

But, like many high-achievers, he is partially motivated to prove to himself, constantly, that he still has what it takes.

One thing I’ve noticed that is missing — like a big-hole-in-the sleeve-of-his-jacket obvious missing element — is telling the voters, no matter the venue, about his life story and his extraordinary achievements.

Example: He refers to his success in turning around the Olympics in Utah. But he only does it with two words: “the Olympics.” Okay, Mitt. But, Mitt, that was many years ago and I honestly don’t remember what you did that was so great and that saved the Olympics. If we have to wait until the bio pic at the national convention, they may not be playing your biopic. NO! Tell your story(ies) now. Your stories are what will make us emotionally connected to you.

That’s it for now. Hasta la vista.

  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew J. Weaver

    Anger will not win for Gingrich.  Despicable is his adultry, not the news of it.

  • Anonymous

    I bet taxes and the Cayman Islands will be a hot topic..

  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew J. Weaver

    Romney put to rest the questions on Bain with a (rare) direct and forceful answer.  Nice to hear and it sounded well received.

  • Pat Racimora

    I’m still in mourning over Jon Huntsman…

  • Anonymous

    I loved the way Newt hit the media for protecting Obama.

    Romney doing better tonight.

  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew J. Weaver

    Gotta love it, Romney just pointed out that Reagan-loving Gingrich was only mentioned once in the Reagan diaries and for a stupid idea that Reagan dismissed.  Quite a disconnect from Gingrich’s grandiose claims.

  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew J. Weaver

    What is Romney’s problem talking about his taxes?  While I don’t mind him not releasing them, I am troubled by the way he stumbles on this topic every time it comes up.

  • Anonymous

    Naw, he will be Mitt’s Secretary of State – an even better place to be to concentrate his formidable skills and play the waiting game for his next Big Thing. Don’t forget, this is the anyone but Obama phase now. Go Mitt! Lift him up on your wings of support and let’s carry this on to the White House so Huntsman can hang in there with Romney too.

  • Anonymous

    He probably worries his devotion to Mormon tithing will turn people off. It has been his sincere belief and life choice. But so many people do not understand it. Funny, Gingrich is the one who wanted to practice polygamy, yet Romney is the one vulnerable to its religious claim.

  • Anonymous

    Polygamy: practiced by Newt, but forced to defend on religious grounds by Mitt.

  • BINKY

    Give it up…Newt was not married to all his wives at the same time.

  • Jrterrier

    oh, geez.  on your psychoanalysis — way too facile.  

    i think romney is kicking butt tonight for three reasons:  (1) he’s better prepared; (2) gingrich was thrown off his game a bit by the question of his first wife, even though he pushed back on the first question asked; and (3) this audience is a different audience, they are not eating the red meat that newt was throwing out in the same fashion.

    on the second point about what’s missing, i do think that he needs to tell those stories.  even on his defense of bain and capitalism he skimps on the details.  i think it’s because he’s trained himself for the 30 second soundbites.  he tries to make multiple points in a short time which makes it difficult to tell the story.  i agree with you that it would make him more accessible to tell the whole story.  perhaps as he wins more states, he will tell a better story — as he did in his speech in NH. 

  • Jrterrier

    oh, geez.  on your psychoanalysis — way too facile.  

    i think romney is kicking butt tonight for three reasons:  (1) he’s better prepared; (2) gingrich was thrown off his game a bit by the question of his first wife, even though he pushed back on the first question asked; and (3) this audience is a different audience, they are not eating the red meat that newt was throwing out in the same fashion.

    on the second point about what’s missing, i do think that he needs to tell those stories.  even on his defense of bain and capitalism he skimps on the details.  i think it’s because he’s trained himself for the 30 second soundbites.  he tries to make multiple points in a short time which makes it difficult to tell the story.  i agree with you that it would make him more accessible to tell the whole story.  perhaps as he wins more states, he will tell a better story — as he did in his speech in NH. 

  • Jrterrier

    that was a great point.  and he was even able to throw in that his george romney was mentioned once.  classic romney tonight. well prepared.  newt is off his game, for one he doesn’t have juan williams to kick around and this crowd seems much more evenly divided.  perhaps it’s because they are in charleston.  i expect there are more romney supporters in this audience.

  • Jrterrier

    that was a great point.  and he was even able to throw in that his george romney was mentioned once.  classic romney tonight. well prepared.  newt is off his game, for one he doesn’t have juan williams to kick around and this crowd seems much more evenly divided.  perhaps it’s because they are in charleston.  i expect there are more romney supporters in this audience.

  • Jrterrier

    huntsman may have a lot of great ideas but he needs to spend the next few years out on the stump. he was not a very good politician. 

  • Jrterrier

    huntsman may have a lot of great ideas but he needs to spend the next few years out on the stump. he was not a very good politician. 

  • Jrterrier

    the truth is that i think that huntsman didn’t have the fire in his belly to run for president.  the WAPO had an article about the romney/huntman ties and rivalry, which was interesting. 

  • Anonymous

    that is what gets me…When it comes to money Romney bristles up ….Its usually the closest he comes to losing it.

  • Jrterrier

    chris matthews interviewed jenny sanford (former first lady of SC) this evening about newt’s adultery and she was great.  she said that although people can reform, for her, newt’s talents didn’t overcome the character flaws shown by his conduct. 

    she was terrific. at the same time, she pushed back on matthews’ attempt to paint newt’s comments as race baiting. she pointed out that her congressman is african-american republican and their governor is indian-american and that the media was always trying to drum up controversy. 

  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew J. Weaver

    Romney knows who he is campaigning against as every time he speaks he directs his comments to Obama while the other candidates seem happier to snipe at each other. Aside from his trouble talking about his tax returns, Romney is the winner and did so without the theatrics that Gingrich attempted.

    Yes, overall Romney and Paul again top the field in the debate.

  • Jrterrier

    newt said that marianne’s wife’s story is false and that every friend they knew around that time have said the story is false.  how could those friends have known?  who goes around sharing with friends that their wife just caught them in the lie, and that when he proposed an open marriage she turned him down? 

  • BINKY

    Where’s the proof the wife is telling the truth?  I don’t care about their divorce squabble.  

  • dst

        For all those who seem to dislike the
    recent days of Newt-Rising, I don’t see anything here that will slow it down. I
    suspect the pathetic media’s presentation (from the “snippets” I saw
    and as a MD involved in a number of doctor defense cases, the interviewer
    reminded more of a plaintive lawyer interviewing his client than a non-partisan
    interviewer) will bring Newt more votes among media-haters than the few who
    learned about what they mostly know.

  • Anonymous

    I was disappointed that nobody brought up Obama`s “recess” appointments.

  • Anonymous

    Oh just great.

    CAIR: Muslims Endorse Ron Paul As “Our Kind Of Republican”

    http://patdollard.com/2012/01/cair-muslims-endorse-ron-paul/

  • Jrterrier

    i think he knows that if he releases taxes today, and then again in april, it will capture various news cycles.  so he wants a single paper dump.  at the same time, he probably feels embarrassed about not releasing them. 

  • Jrterrier

    i’m watching post-debate analysis and you’d think that neither romney nor paul were there.  the cnn blog doesn’t even mention the zinger about reagan’s diary.

  • Anonymous

    The marriage and divorces are not at issue at this time. (Who remembers the so-called solid Edwards marriage).

    To answer Jrterrier…Woman can be and are Very often Very open about what is happening in their marriage, including the bedroom.

    What bothers me about Newt is that I am sick of he DC establishment and Newt is ingrained in the DC political establishment.

    Right now I think the media is having a blast pushing the buttons of the GOP supporters…
    They are probably laughing their heads off as the media realizes how they have been controlling the popularity ratings of the candidates.  Not to mention how the media has and is behind many of the dropouts.

  • Anonymous

    Great that you mentioned this, Matthew.  Let’s hope that there isn’t so much gaga-ing over Newt’s dressing down of John King, etc., that that moment doesn’t get mentioned and featured by the media.

  • Anonymous

    It IS strange. Yet his staff had to have faced that question in their prep, and figured out a response. One hopes.  Unless it didn’t occur to them that Romney would be pressed for his tax returns during the primary, not until the general.

  • Anonymous

    Before anyone votes watch the Ann Bernardt video on UTube on Mitt Romney’s past.   Her view is that Obamacare was modelled on Romneycare, which taxes the fact that you are alive.   So if you understand that you will not tolerate Romney for another second.
    If he gets nominated then the argument about the repeal of Obamacare will be moot because they are on the same page.
    So Romney will say Obama is great so he doesn’t look or sound racist, the press will say how great Obama is and it’s in the bag……………….
    Romney signed bills into law in Massachusetts just because he wanted to and he acted like a dictator.  Sounds like Obama to me.
    But then Obama doesn’t even wait to sign bills if he has a whim to do something radical.   Neither of them are suitable to be president.
    So we better get busy and find some guys who actually respect the Constitution and love the USA.

  • Scottymac54

    I couldn’t even watch it.  I saw the way Dr. Paul was treated as a step-child (with characteristic self-effacing humor and dignity, he acknowledged it, twice, with the wry comment that he was a doctor, qualified to discuss health issues, with authority).

    I’d like to make a comment about the non-Fox debates.

    The problem is, the quality of the media people selected for these debates, particularly those known to skew left, is so low, that it’s almost unfair to these candidates, to expect them not to complain about left-oriented bias.

    This debate was such an opportunity missed.

    The questions were poorly crafted, even the “Mr. Softie” ones, and there was not even an attempt on King’s part, to phrase them in a way that would help a predominately conservative audience to discern the finer differences in policy.

    I have to conclude that CNN is totally in the tank for Barky.

    What’s astounding to me, is how willing they are to let their editorial biases show, even in the questions taken from the audience and the amount of time they gave for those responses.

    The days of responsible television journalism are long gone, and I’ve seen a dramatic decline since Gwen Ifill moderated the debate that seems like a million years ago. 

  • Scottymac54

    Yawn.  AIPAC shill.

  • Scottymac54

    That was a shrewd call.

    He can enlist (buy) friends, only on the LEFT, to corroborate these tales to the tabloids, and insulate himself by exploiting  the Chicago machine’s reluctance to inflame tensions amongst their own ranks, if they would try to push back.

    Remember, the “cocktail party” side of the Republicans still socialize with the “leadership” faction of the Dems, and gossip.

  • Scottymac54

    “What bothers me about Newt is that I am sick of he DC establishment and Newt is ingrained in the DC political establishment…”

    This is true.

    What is confusing me tonight is that this was probably the most rational and normal-sounding I’ve ever seen him, IMHO.

  • Scottymac54

    But evangelicals are also expected to tithe!

    The biblical standard, 10%.  And many Catholic parishes had also begun to push it as a benchmark, for families, until recently.

  • Scottymac54

    I did not hear it as being offensive to anyone who has questioned his role at Bain Capital.

    What I did find annoying was his references to “European-style socialism”, which are always ill-placed and below him, and prove my point that he will fail at diplomacy.

    VERY foolish for the party to have allowed that to happen twice.

  • dst

    “Insider”
    seems a abused word to me. GWB and BO are there at the choice of those really
    in power and don’t really care what party they
    represent as long as they feel they will do the right thing, at least to them.
    That magnitude of the attack from both sides that seems to start the moment
    Newt starts to rise, suggest to me he is “not” an insider they feel can
    control.

  • Scottymac54

    “she was terrific. at the same time, she pushed back on matthews’ attempt to paint newt’s comments as race baiting. she pointed out that her congressman is african-american republican and their governor is indian-american and that the media was always trying to drum up controversy.”

    And there is a strong sense of truth to her rejoinder.

    Unfortunately, Newt has repeatedly pushed too hard, using code words and phrases that many of us depend upon to facilitate communication in daily life without being unnecessarily offensive. 

  • Ptab01

    I thought the single best line of truth spoken tonight was Newt’s indictment of the media’s role in the POTUS’ re election campaign
     it has been this single fact that has caused this utter mistake of a presidency to occur in the first place

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    Romney wouldn’t be harmed having half of the grandiosity of that portly pudgy pink guy who barks.  And if he could only have one of his advisors tell him not to have one hand in his pocket all the time.  I realize this is how he feels comfortable… but stop it.  Go on the attack.  Bark and snarl a little.  Show some passion.  You have the stuff… you just ‘ain’t’ selling it very well.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    The gaga-ing is all they are talking about.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    I actually think all four did rather well tonight.  They scored on some points and none faltered.  Santorum should be the guy for the values crowd… but I doubt they will support him.

  • Scottymac54

    “Example: He refers to his success in turning around the Olympics in Utah. But he only does it with two words: “the Olympics.” Okay, Mitt. But, Mitt, that was many years ago and I honestly don’t remember what you did that was so great and that saved the Olympics. If we have to wait until the bio pic at the national convention, they may not be playing your biopic. NO! Tell your story(ies) now. Your stories are what will make us emotionally connected to you…”

    I chalked up the stuttering to too much coffee until I realized, “No, he probably doesn’t drink that….”

    I really believe that he spends a tremendous amount of time being coached by the sort of communication consultants one finds pervasive on a high level of the corporate world, as opposed to theatrical.

    He seems more animated and likable, even though the song remains the same.

    He comes across as seeming more OPEN to being engaged on a personal level, and some softball interviews with friendlies may portray him on a level that is more accessible to the general public.

    I think he assumes everyone already knows the blow-by-blow saga of how he single-handedly saved the Olympics, has committed them to heart, and believes the American public needs to understand that the words “Mitt” and “100% total success” are synonymous.

    After twelve years of total failure from Washington, we probably don’t remember what success looks like.

  • Jrterrier

    this is the same man who was the sitting Speaker when President Clinton was impeached.  He of all people has no standing to complain about being questioned about his own infidelity.  besides, he himself has brought up the character issue saying that his criticism of romney on bain is appropriate because it goes to character. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    I like that he brought up that he has worked hard to have all that he has… nobody gave it to him.  He should seem so apologetic about it.  Maybe it is because he knows people don’t understand that a person who invests his money has already paid taxes on said money.  So the additional money if they make any, is taxed as Capital Gains…  People don’t understand the difference between that and income tax.

  • Scottymac54

    I think the radio talk shows might be a bit more insightful, tomorrow.

  • Scottymac54

    He was way too sanctimonious and tight-assed tonight, even for him.

    His facial tics, Nixonian sweat levels, and reddening face betray his instability and unsuitability, to govern.

    Why trade in one hypocritical, big-government monster for another?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    Thanks for watching MSNBheehaw so I don’t have too. ;-)

  • Scottymac54

    Months ago, Larry pointed out that Newt understood combat, and that the voters would LOVE it if he let loose on the media.

    I didn’t take that comment very seriously at the time.

    Well, Larry was right.  Did you HEAR the crowd, when Gingrich called King out on feeding the “Marianne” frenzy?

    Well, it was a good comeback.  And I’ve never liked King.

    But Newt, lose the petulant “NOOOO…” beforehand.

    It was a cool gimmick, but it’s getting tiresome.

    At least pretend to be the grown-up in the room.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    Newt was preaching against same sex marriage between two committed adults while wanting an Open Marriage.  That makes sense. ;-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    Right on…  people do not talk about it.  The interesting thing is that at no time has he called Marianne a liar.  He has just used other people to negate the story.  The rabid supporters will stay with him… but he will lose many much needed Independent females.  Character matters and he has been harping on Mitt’s character all week.  You reap what you sow.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    Only for those who do not understand the difference between income tax and capital gains.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    This is very true.  I did not see the media go after Obama like this on his shady past.

  • Anonymous

    For all those who say they can`t vote for this one or that one……keep this in mind.

    Obama Will Give Missile Tech To Russia Despite Law

    It
    appears that Barack Obama has again ignored the rule of law by signing a
    defense appropriations bill that prohibits him sharing vital United
    States leading-edge strategic US missile technology with Russia, yet he
    has told both houses of Congress that he plans to share the US missile
    technology anyway.  Why is this important?  Because it goes light-years
    beyond partisan politics and into an area where our national defense
    will be put at unreasonable risk.  It is believed that the Russians will
    pass this technology onto China, Iran and North Korea.

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-will-give-missile-technology-to-russia/

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    YAWN.  And who the phukc is Ann Bernardt?  Who made her queen?  What is her slant?  Have more important things to do than watch some biased agenda stuff.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    They are all political hacks too.  They push one candidate or another and scew their coverage accordingly.

  • Jrterrier

    come to think of it, it’d be interesting to see how much newt paid the catholic church to get the annulment.  but he only produced this year’s tax return.

  • Scottymac54

    You are right, sadly….

  • Ptab01

    u assume i am bitchin’ about the media dredging up his ex wife which i am not – I am elated he is dragging the media out on the carpet for being shills for the POTUS pure and simple. Where were the questions about Barracks coke dealer? Where were the calls for  POTUS’ class grades? Where were the questions about his voting records? Hillary was ROBBED ( and I ain’t even a fan of hers -but she would have a thousand times better than this & the media assured her loss to President Obama)

  • Anonymous

    Newt definitely kicked butt tonight!

  • http://twitter.com/Juliezzz Juliezzz

    Paul gets my vote of course. He did the best tonight. The rest came off as a bunch of squabaling chickens

    every question hit out of the park!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MWcp6vj61Y&feature=player_embedded

  • Anonymous

    Did Romney take over after the bribery scandal?  If you want a capitalist executive hero for running the Olympics it has to be Peter Ueberroth in LA who actually made us a ton of money.

  • Anonymous

    Hi there, you have every right to say and think what you want.
    I guess that goes for Ann Bernhardt too. Her piece on Mitt Romney was based on his actions, and the motives he had for what he did as Governor. For those people who were hurt by Romneycare and those who will be impacted by Obamacare it was revelatory, and pinpointed the fact that the mandate for everybody who is ‘ALIVE’ in the USA to be forced to buy health insurance means that being alive will “tax” your finances. Perhaps you are a believer in the mandate, meaning that you are able to afford to pay for health insurance. However, what we all have to realize is that the health care that is offered contains several shortcomings which you might not be able to afford, not in the financial sense but in the wanting to stay alive in the best possible health sense. After a certain point the Obamacare or Romneycare won’t help, if a person is over a certain age or isn’t viewed as a viable proposition in the “panels” view and discretion. That is a replication of the Hitler T4 health policy. Also your mention of her thinking she is a Queen is strange to me, where did that come from, we don’t have Queens in the USA, we are all equal n’est ce pas? The only Queens I know of in America is part of NYC. However, if you are a Mitt Romney fan or supporter or backer then you most likely love everything about him and even if you don’t you would defend him any which way you could. So, there it is. Hope that you feel appreciated even though this isn’t quite an apology.

  • Scottymac54

    100 percent.

    The only candidate who even thinks we should probably end this.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/army-investigates-video-man-beating-sheep-death-baseball-bat-report-article-1.1008998#ixzz1jyIyTOIc

    Our tax dollars at work.

    Why?

    I don’t see how this is helping to combat radical Islam.

    The other three are indignant clowns who will regard America as a plaything.

    The nation is disintegrating, our people are succumbing to doom and despair, from decadence and learned helplessness.

    These three are indistinguishable from Barky in the maturity and common sense department, are from different wings of the same burning house, and refuse to stop talking about all the things they haven’t a clue to do about.

    As a people, we have to at least CONSIDER a departure from the ordinary.

    Especially, when “the ordinary” gets THIS ordinary.  SMH.

  • Scottymac54

    He has IDEAS.

    So, make him O’Reilly’s replacement.

    The presidency needs a steady hand.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    Cry me a river…  it is her biased take through her whatever colored glasses.  So boring.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    Cry me a river…  it is her biased take through her whatever colored glasses.  So boring.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    I agree to disagree… I think all did well.  I like him even if I agree about very little.  I think he has values unlike Newt.  Same goes for Paul and Romney.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    I agree to disagree… I think all did well.  I like him even if I agree about very little.  I think he has values unlike Newt.  Same goes for Paul and Romney.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    Whatever happened to American Girl in Italy or whatever she went by?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    Whatever happened to American Girl in Italy or whatever she went by?

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    I think Paul had a good night. I wouldn’t go so far as you did in saying he hit every question out of the park tho. A few times he came off as rambling. This isn’t a criticism of him, only an observation. I was fairly impressed with some of his responses.

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    Perhaps. But I don’t think that Romney is especially comfortable being an attack dog. I’d like to see a little more fire too but I appreciate someone acting like an adult rather than a spoiled child throwing a tantrum for a change.

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    The belief that Obamacare is based upon Romneycare is a lie. The so-called Romneycare is a STATE program. There is a significant difference between what one state does and what the federal government imposes on all states.

    This meme was created by the Democrats because they expect Romney to be the nominee and feel they can damage that prospect by making it seem like he is just like them.

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    I think that Santorum probably pulled some of Gingrich’s support away. He is the only candidate that actually semi-directly went after Gingrich’s infidelities.

  • Anonymous

    Only watched bits and moments of the debate. Truth to tell I am suffering from debate fatigue.
     
    It seemed to me they all did quite well. No big stand out moments although given the loathing for CNN from many Newt’s barking at John King will probably get all the attention.

    Having forced myself to watch FOX yesterday I see that they too are in the Newt’s corner. Or actually in the anti-Romney corner. Funny how everyone keeps saying that FOX is all for Romney when it’s quite obvious they are not. But when you hate someone as much as the anti-Romney crowd hates him you see what you want to see.
     
    If the ex-wife scandal had been about Romney the same people that are finding excuses for Newt and blaming his ex-wife would be trashing Romney non-stop.
     
    I have no idea if Romney is consciously or subconsciously seeing the ghosts of Romney Family Campaigns past. I think he’s a smart enough man to know how quickly things can go to hell.
     
    The difference between him and Gingrich that shows what kind of a “family values” man he is was in how they both reacted to the news of their wives illnesses.
     
    I think he is also honestly confused by the rabid hatred directed at him and his family for their success. He, like my generation was raised that this country was a place where anyone could rise and make a success of their life.  A place where anyone could get rich. Now that success is being used as a weapon against him.
     
    Funny too how many idiots who get paid millions a year for sitting on their dead asses and talking drivel on television are so rabidly anti capitalism. Just a few thoughts this early Friday morning.

  • Anonymous

    Romney has no reason whatsoever to appoint Huntsman to anything.  He brushed him off after Huntsman’s endorsement of him.  That wasn’t surprising but is pretty predictive.  Huntsman would be excellent as Sec of State but I’d rather see him as  President. 

    PS.  I don’t know why Disqus has changed my name.  I was formerly Dorinda.

  • Anonymous

    I agree. Voters are going to be literally begging for another candidate by April with the increasing exposure/implosion of Romney and Gingrich. What shoulda been ! Huntsman may have been talked into running against his better judgement knowing that this wasn’t the year, and he is still looking better by his absence in a field of now non-existent conservative options.

  • Guest

    lol. By any measure, Huntsman has been a hell of a lot more successful as a politician (and just about anything else) than the four clowns up on that stage last night combined. 

  • Guest

    Following the Christie rule, Romney should have released all past years at once and every subsequent filing in April as it becomes available. 

    I don’t think people really care about his tax returns. But as soon as voters have assumed he is hiding something, the damage is done.  

  • PA

    The upside down morals of the Republican Party on full display once again last night.

    Gingrich gets a standing ovation regarding his wife’s comments. What happened to the sanctity of marriage and the family. Republicans are always the hypocrites. Not only do they vote for a serial flander, but one that thinks an “open” marriage meets the definition of a marriage. But, again he has found god, so all is forgiven.

    Lets see during these debates the GOP crowds have booed a gay war veteran soldier, booed someone on food stamps, cheered the use of the death penalty, cheered waterboarding, booed at an African-American reporter who asks repeated questions about race, poverty, inequality and racial stereotypes, etc.

    A truly ugly Republican Party.

  • Anonymous

    In practice, if not reality.  And not for lack of trying.  

  • Jrterrier

    if newt (god forbid) becomes the nominee, expect the media to demand that he release his ethics committee dorsier.  they won’t for now because they want to stretch the race, and in my humble opinion they want to know romney out of the lead because he would be a more formidable candidate than newt.

  • PA

    It fits a pattern. He has been so unprepared for the most obvious stuff. He has had for years to prepare for these questions.

    I suspect he legitimately does not want to release his taxes because people will see the use of off-shore tax haven accounts, his low tax rate and the fact he gives a lot of money to the moromon church.

    He is waiting to April so that he can only show his 2011 taxes, which I am sure will be cleaned-up, as he is likely preparing them now. He has not said whether he will release previous years taxes.

    This is a guy who has had four years to clean up his taxes and get rid of any offshore tax haven accounts. Tax records always come up for Presidential candidates, so he should have been prepared. Is this guy really serious and prepared to run for President?

  • Jrterrier

    watching C-span, several SC residents have stated that they have already used absentee ballots to vote, and most if not all of them have said they voted for Romney.  don’t know what % of the SC vote is absentee, but that may become an issue as much of the gringrich “surge” came in the past week.

    also, a lot of “christian” and other women are expressing disdain for newt. 

    the primary results are not that straight line. 

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    My feelings about the debate are too long winded to state in one comment. I’ll continue to comment in snippets but I think that something was obvious last night that is being overlooked.

    It’s the MEDIA Stupid!

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    I agree with you that Romney is uncomfortable with others attacking his success. To me it seems as if he is not just shocked but insulted that anyone would suggest he did something illegal.

    I think it was CBS today that did a fact check on Romney’s claim that he is a self made man. They mentioned something about his parents helping him buy their first house. As if this was something unusual, outside the mainstream or elitist. What they implied was that he was a liar.

    It only goes to show how willing the MSM is willing to rip anyone apart that doesn’t fit into their meme for them. They twist the truth to fit their definition of what they want us to believe.

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    Wipe your tears and gird your loins. We need you on the front lines.

  • Anonymous

    Lets see during these debates the GOP crowds have booed a gay war
    veteran soldier, booed someone on food stamps, cheered the use of the
    death penalty, cheered waterboarding, booed at an African-American
    reporter who asks repeated questions about race, poverty, inequality and
    racial stereotypes, etc.

    ———————————————————————

    Can you just imagine what they would do if your name came up ?

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    What about the fact that Gingrich feeds the media the meme of Romney’s supposed flaws. Don’t you find it just the least bit hypocritical that the same person who spreads lies and innuendo to the media also criticizes them when they place him under scrutiny?

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    Fox did but the rest of the MSM castigated them for it.

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    He stated last night that he would release several years of returns. He didn’t say how many years which the moderator used to imply that he was hiding something. Gingrich released only one year of his tax return.

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    In practice, if not reality.  And not for lack of trying

    Absolutely spot on.

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    I was also dismayed at the way Paul was treated by the moderator. Paul has beat Gingrich twice. And significantly.

  • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

    If my father was Governor of Michigan; Secretary of HUD; and Chairman and President of American Motors; I would be hard pressed to claim that all I have achieved in my lifetime, resulted only from my hard work. But that’s just me.

    Know your candidates.
     
    http://www.nytimes.com/1995/07/27/obituaries/george-romney-dies-at-88-a-leading-gop-figure.html

  • Anonymous

    “During the signing ceremony, Obama indicated he did not feel bound by
    the requirements of section 1227, saying while he intends to keep
    Congress informed, he also intends to implement the section “in a manner
    that does not interfere with the president’s constitutional authority
    to conduct foreign affairs and avoids the undue disclosure of sensitive
    diplomatic communications.”

    Yeah the big bad Russians are coming…..again…..

  • Anonymous

    How much more punishment must we suffer with the so-called debates?

  • Anonymous

    Oh my god, get the tar and feathers, a young couple got help from his parents! What bullshit!

    Meanwhile the media loves the OWS bunch that still sleep in their parent’s house. Double standards are so JournOlistic.

    As for CBS if they have Oblahblah on 60 Minutes one more time they might as well let him host a segment.

  • Anonymous

    Here’s how one columnist saw the debate:


    And Overall…  
      link: http://townhall.com/tipsheet/carolplattliebau/2012/01/19/and_overall

    It’s much the way I saw it too.

  • Jrterrier

    i think the standing ovation was more about media bashing and the fact that they protect obama.  i’d be willing to bet that newt will lose a lot of the women’s vote. 

  • Mandelay

    As of this week there are two less candidates in the mix for this Republican nomination.  Also, this week, we have Gingrich’s 2nd wife coming forward with the “open marriage story.”  I would have thought Romney would be pulling away from the pack at this point.  But all along, no matter what happens, he seems to stay in the same place. There’s something missing with this guy.  And it looks like the voters can smell it.  And why is he sitting on his hands with these tax returns?  This is stupid stuff.  Somebody with a political marketing brain better explain to this very experienced, very polished, very smart, and (barely) frontrunner that all buying decisions are emotional … and that voters want to fall in love with the product, not fall in “intellectual union” but in love. The only one of these candidates that has less emotional connection with the voters is Huntsman.  Also very experienced, very polished, very smart.  And very nowhere.  Romney better light a fire under his own ass or he’s going to continue running in place.  It won’t matter if he has the money, the troops and the ground game to get the nomination with primary wins in the big states.  He’s running against those who know how to tap into and capitalize on emotional issues — class warfare, gay marriage, immigration, to name a few.  How do you make sound economic policy, sensible energy policy, and alliance-building foreign policy sound both sexy and heart/body warming as a steaming bowl of soup on a snowy day?  Figure it out, Romney.  Time is running out.

  • Lisa

    You are dreaming.  Newt showed leadership in how he can handle diversity.  I thought that Newt was great and right on point.  Romney doesn’t follow the foremat debate rules. Romney talks too much and is always scripted in what he says.  I think that Romney is wimpy!!

  • Lisa

    I agree.

  • http://twitter.com/vivianberryhill Vivian Berryhill

    Yup.  Standing ovation was for Newt’s guts to slam media. May not lose as many women’s votes as people think.  If women have a choice between their children’s/grandkids future vs did Gingrich sleep around and divorce his wife…. grandkids will dominate the voting patterns of women.  Bet on it.

  • Bob Dole

    LOL! Guest, you cannot be serious. You must be a Republican hating Democrat.

  • Guest

    He said that he might or might not release his tax returns from previous years.

  • Anonymous

    Honestly. It is following in the footsteps of remarks like “I stand by my positions. I’m proud of them” then acknowledging flip flops only to end up back at “I’ve been as consistent as any human being can be.”

    Either he is lying to himself, lacking any sense of self-awareness; or believes everyone to be as deceitful, calculating and completely incapable of consistency as himself. Most likely a combination of all three. The jokes just write themselves.

  • Helen

    i didn’t watch the Charleston debate -saw the one before. Romney is too tight, too programmed. I think he should go out and have a drink somewhere – sin big time and get loose. I agree he, like Al Gore is constrained by trying to please papa. That shit-eating grin on his face reminds me of a kid listening to his dad, hoping for approval. I’ll probably vote for him because of his business experience, but he will need some coaching about loosening up before he debates Obama.

    I like Ron Paul. Santorum scares me with his rigid religious convictions. I’ OK with a Cathlic in the White Houses just as long as he or she is not in lock step with the Pope. leaves me to wonder about his ability to make informed decisions. His attitude toward Iran is very frightening. Also, if he’s so fond of his handicapped daughter, he ought to spend more time with here at home. His kids look young.

  • Helen

    i didn’t watch the Charleston debate -saw the one before. Romney is too tight, too programmed. I think he should go out and have a drink somewhere – sin big time and get loose. I agree he, like Al Gore is constrained by trying to please papa. That shit-eating grin on his face reminds me of a kid listening to his dad, hoping for approval. I’ll probably vote for him because of his business experience, but he will need some coaching about loosening up before he debates Obama.

    I like Ron Paul. Santorum scares me with his rigid religious convictions. I’ OK with a Cathlic in the White Houses just as long as he or she is not in lock step with the Pope. leaves me to wonder about his ability to make informed decisions. His attitude toward Iran is very frightening. Also, if he’s so fond of his handicapped daughter, he ought to spend more time with here at home. His kids look young.

  • PA

    So Newt flandering and hypocritical view on marriage is all the media’s fault and no one can ask him about these character issues?? 

    Come on… completely BS by Newt and that GOP crowd…

    No women are going to vote for Newt. He so completely turns them off.

  • Anonymous

    And it isn’t just the huge flip flops on issues or a success related complex. Mitt has meltdowns under aggressive challenges on virtually anything that gets him out of a narrow “I understand business” framework because there are no guiding values, principles or emotions there to center him. I just don’t see a confident man. 

  • Scottymac54

    To me, he’s trying to ride on Reagan’s legacy, just like he cites his father’s military service as evidence of his own alleged bravery.

    What would either man’s real opinion of Newt be, if they were alive to speak?

    I don’t see evidence of Gingrich being worthy of association with either one, frankly.

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    Maybe he can tell the story about how he put his dog on the roof of his car… 

    Maybe the problem is that there’s nothing there to be emotionally connected to. Maybe the problem is that he’s a soulless money driven Gordon Gecko corporate raider who represents everything wrong with America today?

  • Anonymous

    Hello, you are right. I hope Obamacare lives up to your expectations, whatever they may be. Also, you can defend Romneycare as well, if he is your candidate for the GOP nomination then certainly you have a chance to go for it.
    Since the GOP had control of the House, things have gotten very peculiar, but maybe that’s because of the Tea Party. You most surely will have a rationale for the gridlock on the Hill, so I am retiring gracefully. Shalom.

  • Anonymous

    Cry me a river is such a wonderful melody. That must be one thing we can agree on. As Dr. Manning says, Peace Out!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    I know my candidate… don’t be so smug. Romney, Mitt, made his money on his own and there is nothing wrong with that in this country – yet.

  • Scottymac54

    It’s impossible not to watch, though.

    It’s like that bad accident on the expressway, when you know you shouldn’t look and move on, but do.

    Our political candidates are that spoiled bottle of milk, you just have to sniff, in order to see its possible.

  • BINKY

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  • BINKY

    the kiss of death

  • BINKY

    Right, Matthew.  Romney lets his PAC do his dirty work.

  • http://twitter.com/vivianberryhill Vivian Berryhill

    PA… Did you see the final results in SC?  Newt dominated in votes from women… and he is LEADING in FL. People are looking for somebody who can jumpstart this country…. regardless of their warts and moles.

  • Collierdolores49

    since obama is the foodstamp president, what would you do to assist the POOR in america who are on foostamps and welfare.

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