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The End of Conservatism

Conservatives have lost their minds. Some on the left would assert that conservatives never had a brain, but that’s a topic for a different time. By rallying around Newt Gingrich and embracing the fantasy that he is a true-blue conservative then conservatives expose themselves as simpletons and rubes. Although I am getting old I have not forgotten the conservative vitriol spewed at Bill Clinton for his outrageous sexual behavior. For conservatives it was the simple fact that Clinton was using his position to get laid. It was “unbecoming” and tarnished the holy office of the President. OH JESUS SAVE US.

But thank God (and Allah) that we had righteous souls like Newt Gingrich to lead the charge in attacking Bill Clinton for his immoral, anti-family behavior. But now we know the truth–Newt was as busy fucking around as Bill Clinton. Unlike Bill Clinton, who remained married to his first and only wife, Newt was going thru wives like a menstruating woman thru tampons. He used them and discarded them.

I understand the fury of many Americans and the skewed, duplicitous press. It is in effect just another high school clique for cool kids and, whether it is FOX or CNN or MSNBC or the New York Times or the Washington Post, the media decides what is and is not worthy of being considered important.

But the conservatives in South Carolina the other night, when Newt went medieval on John King’s ass, displayed a level of mindless emotionalism. We have seen this kind of emotional embrace of a gifted orator before–just watch some of Leni Riefenstahl’s, Triumph of the Will. What are conservatives thinking?

Conservatives claim to embrace Chrisitian family values. That means they eschew divorce and adultery. That’s one reason they hated Bill Clinton. And now? They ejaculate praise over a twice divorced serial adulterer and, with a straight face, claim Gingrich as their moral leader.

Conservatives claim to embrace smaller, honest, competent government. And they want Newt? The guy whose unethical conduct and hubris while Speaker got him dumped–not by those dastardly Liberal Democrats–by conservative Republicans.

Newt is not Hitler. He does not want to exterminate Jews. Let’s get that straight up front. But he is playing the same kind of political game. American people are angry. Hitler tapped into the anger of the German people. The Germans were furious at the bankers and politicians who betrayed them. Hitler offered the Jews as a convenient scapegoat.

Newt? He blames the media and Wall Street. He denounces Mitt Romeny as a vulture capitalist while hiding the fact that he was taking money as a consultant from a Wall Street vulture capitalist firm.

Democrats are pissing themselves with glee. You doubt me? I happened to tune in to MSNBC’s Hardball yesterday. Chris Matthews and his team of uber Democrats and liberal pundits were extolling the virtues and miracle recovery of Newt. If Republican voters board the Newt train they are signing their political suicide note. I am old enough to remember clearly the debacle that was Newt Gingrich as Speaker. He claims he is a new man. Bullshit. The man who sat with Nancy Pelosi and shilled for action on Global Warming? Same guy as the Speaker. The man who launches a Michael Moore style attack on capitalism? Same dude.

If Newt remains a viable candidate then the Republicans will get four more years of Barack Obama. Take that to the bank.

  • Jrterrier

    nothing much to add. you said it all.

    it’s disheartening to see the spectacle, particularly because newt has used the very press that he demonized to pull this revival off; to a great extent, his resurgence has been supported by all the free press he’s received.  and i do belive that the MSM wants newt to be the REP candidate so that they can savage him in the general.  of all the reports on the thursday debate both in print and on cable, i’ve seen only a handful that reported it accurately, at least as i saw it.  but for that one exchange and one other, the debate was won by santorum and romney.  barone had a good article.

    but beyond that, as you state, newt is such a flawed candidate — morally and on conservative orthodoxy — that it is sad to see this resurgence.

    i am still hopeful that the REP electorate in SC will not give newt a win, or at least give him a slim margin if at all.

  • Anonymous

    I will give Newtie credit for one thing.  He is correct about the media afftecting good people running for office because they will be crucified for an error in judgement or what ever the hell anyone wants to call it,  that could have happened many years ago.  I know I wouldn’t run for office with my, lets call it mischevious past.  However, I am a good honest hard working American who is fairly smart and fair, there are tens of thousands of us who will never be able to run for office or serve publicly because of the scrutiny of the court of public opinon led by the media, especially if your not a liberal rag.

    With that being said, they hypocrisy knows no bounds with people like Newt. Perhaps he has changed his ways? I doubt it because if he had truly changed his ways, then he would have come out and said,  I now fully understand the ramifications of what I did to Bill Clinton and how my greedy mislead agenda affected his governing abilities and how wrong I was.   THEN and only then would he truly be changed man.  He is not. 

    I was truly disgusted with John Ensign for being at the forefront calling for Bill Clinton to resign saying “he has no credibility left”.  Really?? Then he gets caught up in an affair and scandal which led him to resign in disgrace.   A true karmic boomerang. 

    Newt is a J-O-K-E and puhlease spare me Rick Snoretorum

  • Cruccia

    I just keep thinking about reasons why more and more people are calling themselves Independents……

    http://womenwintoo.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-fewer-people-are-sticking-with.html 

  • dude, man up!

    I am now an independent voter, and no way will I ever vote for Newt.  I didn’t have a problem with him until he threw a tantrum regarding Mitt and BAIN; and dumb Perry went along with it spewing the term ‘vulture capitalism’ hoping it would be the new buzz word. Newt is a petulant baby, who is his own biggest fan. This is the guy that a month ago said he was going to be the nominee and then when he saw his numbers drop, his ego couldn’t handle it and he lashed out. Sounds like another Barrack to me.  It’s so easy to say “I asked God for forgiveness” because none of us can dispute that.  But what I found totally absurd is his sanctimonious rant to King saying that he found it despicable that King would ask that question. Really? And on every TV rotation, he deferred his answer for his daughters to do clean up.  Just because they are female saying ‘all is forgiven’ does not make him less of an a-hole.

  • Jrterrier

    agreed.  the irony is that newt’s premise that the media are responsible for having good people stay out of politics is that it really doesn’t apply to him.  this isn’t one of those things where the media is making a mountain out of a molehill (as with mitt’s tax returns) or newt’s lies about bain drive successful people from running.  newt is not “good people.”  his baggage is not media-manufactures.  it’s of his own making in every area of his life — from the personal, to the political, where his won party drummed him out and the ethics violation, to the post-Speaker payments, to the diahrea of the mouth, to his grandiosity – this is all newt-made.  he lucked out that the he had a scape goat in the media.  

    he might be able to play this game for a while, but he won’t be able to fool enough of the people for enough time to get nominated.  at least, i hope not because i’m really looking for an alternative to Pres Obama.

  • Anonymous

    Not to worry Larry, If Newt wins SC his head will swell up like a big ol` Zit and explode.

  • Anonymous
  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    You are right that Obama supporters are pissing themselves with glee about the Newt resurgence. My pants are wet as I type this. The delusional nature of Newt supporters is… it’s just too good to be true really. They really think that we’re “afraid” of Newt Gingrich. It’s absolutely hilarious. 

  • Anonymous

    Newt Sure Loved the Health-Care Mandate in 2005  ( video )

    At a forum in 2005, alongside then-Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) and
    former Sen. John Breaux (D-LA), Gingrich explained the tradeoffs that
    both the right and the left would have to make in health care: For the
    right, some transfer of wealth is involved in providing health care for
    the working poor, the disabled, and other groups. And for the left,
    individuals should still have control over their health care, rather
    than total government management.

    “I mean, I am very opposed to a single-payer system – but I’m
    actually in favor of a 300 million-payer system. Because one of my
    conclusions in the last six years, and founding the Center for Health
    Transformation, and looking at the whole system is, unless you have a
    hundred percent coverage, you can’t have the right preventive care, and
    you can’t have a rational system, because the cost-shifts are so
    irrational, and create second-order problems.”

    http://gawker.com/5863577/newt-sure-loved-the-health+care-mandate-in-2005

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rcSjLvWLcxE#!

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    The health care mandate has always been a conservative idea. The fact that right wingers are running against ObamaCare has always been ludicrous. ObamaCare is essentially the *Republican* plan from the 1990s. It is a very  moderate way forward. The way ObamaCare has been attacked is entirely 100% disengenious. It’s complete BS. 

    ObamaCare is a step in the right direction … but it’s (unfortunately) not a “government takeover” of insurance like right wing loons have claimed. 

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    If Newt wins SC – Santorum will drop out (regardless of whatever nonsense he is saying now) and Newt will have a very good shot at winning Florida. The destruction of the GOP is at hand… and it’s a joy to watch!

  • http://twitter.com/greeneyedconsrv Gr-Eyed Conservative

    Yeah, the same guy who endorsed Dede Scuzzafava. After my primary in California when I will cast my vote for Gov. Romney, I’m reregistering as an Independent. This Republican party is no better than the disgusting “other” party I left on May 31, 2008.

  • Anonymous

    Obamacare wіll give thе vast majority, over 75% οf monies NOT fοr
    healthcare bυt fοr bureaucracy. Obamacare wіll consume over 20% οf thе
    US GDP. Obamacare wіll become thе world’s third lаrgеѕt employer wіth a
    pool οf bureucrat employees whο wіll never vote іt away. Obamacare
    wіll give free healthcare tο illegals (mіght аѕ well revoke уουr US
    citizenship) аnd Obama wіll grant amnesty аnd together wіth thе
    bureaucrat аnd illegal-tο-amnesty vote, hе wіll achieve hіѕ dictatorship
    fοr life.

    Obamacare іѕ NOT sustainable per Congressional Budget Office
    predictions, dire predictions, meaning thаt WHEN nοt іf thеrе іѕ
    insufficient monies, thаt rationing MUST gο іn tο play аnd thіѕ wіll
    dictate whο lives аnd whο dies, a legalized genocide οf thе sickest,
    elderly, аnd thе youngest.

    Already Texas hаѕ ѕаіd іt wіll refuse Obamacare, 5% minimum οf US
    doctors vow tο quit practice being unwilling tο bе dictated tο, adding
    50 million nеw patients tο a static professional pool οf healthcare
    personnel wіll bе a disaster whісh wіll take a decade οf educating nеw
    providers tο remedy.

    Thіѕ іѕ аll аbουt control аnd power fοr Obama аnd nothing аbουt healthcare.

  • Jrterrier

    compassionate conservatism as practiced by the Bush-II administration was a disaster.  There was nothing conservative or compassionate about it.  So, RIP is not too bad. 

    But you cannot equate Mitt Romney, a real conservative and successful capitalist to W, who never succeeded at anything he did, including making his smarter brother, Jeb unelectable for some time into the future and perhaps never. 

    I sure would like someone to explain what they mean by the true conservative when they refer to Newt.  I don’t see anything about him that is conservative, from the number of wives and the way he treated them (and he continues to treat them and his daughters) to the way he’s earned his money. 

  • Jrterrier

    perhaps one good sign against newt is that bob jones university, which is based in SC has not endorsed anyone.  That probably reflects the reservation of christian conservatives with newt’s personal life.  at the same time, it also reflects santorum’s flaws. 

    the head of the southern baptist conference has said that newt’s multiple marriages has impacted the race against newt.  he’s acknowledging REP’s distate for the media bias.  but at the same time says that if you are going to claim to be the party of values, you cannot ignore newt’s multiples.

  • Jrterrier

    strikes me that mitt’s superpac hasn’t been busy enough in SC.

  • Anonymous

    Just like Pete Best

  • Anthony

    Im not.  Nothing says “Winner” like a raging  comeback, and something tells me this is what Mitt Romney is going to do.

    If I were Romney, I would let Neew!t blow his load in SC and get all fired up.  We all know what happens when that foul POS wins something….  

    Then, I would cut him off at the knees and laugh my ass off when he hits bottom.

    Just my opinion (and my hope).

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    My pants are wet as I type this.

    TMI!

  • http://www.facebook.com/mary.cusack Mary Cusack

    I will stay home and let the party implode if they blow this chance with this fat old scum and his wife that look like she get her beauty treatments from a taxidermist

  • Anonymous

    He could have saved a shitload of money at Tiffany s if he had one these instead.

  • Anonymous

    He could have saved a shitload of money at Tiffany s if he had one these instead.

  • wylrae

    I know I am not as smart as many of you (apparently most) and certainly would never claim to be, have nearly your experience in analysis, nor may none of my degrees be as prestigious as yours but, after reading this you may call me whatever names you like or use whatever terms you like in describing me.  Boy, things are really getting to be interesting (maybe even in a degenerative manner) here.
     
    Going back to yesterday’s question by Larry; i.e., define a conservative for the me and the others here (paraphrashing).  Will someone now define a “true-blue conservative for me”?  Yes, I voted for some presidents I probably should not have — guess mainly because I have pretty much have always felt government should help people (more in the sense of a hand up than a hand out).
     
    Guess if we are to talk true-blue conservatism Santorum is probably the closest of any of the remaining candidates to being in whaty I think that moldmay be although again we could question his being “true-blue”; i.e., voting against right to work because he represents a state strongly in favor of unions  — does a “true-blue” vote against his on strong beliefs?  Is Romney a “true-blue”?  Don’t think so.  Wouldn’t a “true-blue” have developed beliefs early on and not changed those beliefs — certainly flip-flopping and vague on obortion positions doesn’t seem to be “true-blue” and I would question whether Romneycare would fit into a “true-blue” beliefs.
     
    Am I happy about Gingrich’s divorces.  No.  Do I think choice of  candidates presents anyone who is a good choice to stand up to the Obama campaign and media bias that will be thrown against them.  Not reall. I know whoever it is, is going to have the kitchen sink, toilet, garbage cans, and all other possible trash thrown at him.  Does Gingrich have a lot of trash that can be thrown at him?  Most certainly.  Does Romney?  Not as much that I know of (a 1%er, apparent reluctance on releasing tax forms–certainly a reluctance about releasing 12 years of them, investments in the Cayman Islands–probably not a tremendous amount of money BUT…, and taking over companies — resulting in some employment and some closing of operations) but you better believe if he is the nominee there will be things we haven’t even dreamed of that may cast negative doubt in the minds of voters.
     
    You may think I am overdoing it on what is coming, but as I noted in a comment yesterday I am part of a coffee group (5 to 10 of us get together at local coffee/donut shop for 15 minutes to an hour or so to just talk–mainly current sports and local happenings–and at yesterday’s gathering two individuals (one very strong Obama supporter) brought up that there is no reason for anyone having money in the Cayman Islands other than to avoid paying taxes on interest income and at a gathering several weeks back when the Occupy Movement somehow got into the discussion Romney’s “billions — we were informed we did not know it was not billions” was mentioned. 
     
    I certainly am not a “true-blue conservative”.  Fact is I went from a 40+ year registered democrat supporting Hillary to having the Dem. party deciding it no longer needed me on May 31, 2008.  Now I am an independent but have decided that our government is totally out of control in regard to fiscal matters so guess now I am an independent with very strong fiscal conservative leanings.  I frankly believe that Newt is the only one who can stand up to the trash that will be thrown at the nominee and throw it back in Obama’s or the media’s faces.  It surprises me that so many have gone from the ABO feelings over the past many months to the recent ABO or Newt position.
     
    I do not know if Newt is truly repentent and changed –heck with some of the comments at the from the debates regarding illegals I would not be surprised if some today would find fault with Jesus Christ saying “Father, forgive them for they know not what they doeth.”  Well, I will continue to support Newt until he is eliminated by the establishment and then I will vote ABO — I may vote reluctantly and have misgivings about the nominee but I will vote for ABO.  Sorry I am not “true-blue” and do not think “true-blue” but that is just the way it is.  I will not call other voters names for whomever he/she supports but will support my candidate for my reason(s) and if he doesn’t come out the nominee, I will vote ABO.
     

  • wylrae

    I know I am not as smart as many of you (apparently most) and certainly would never claim to be, have nearly your experience in analysis, nor may none of my degrees be as prestigious as yours but, after reading this you may call me whatever names you like or use whatever terms you like in describing me.  Boy, things are really getting to be interesting (maybe even in a degenerative manner) here.
     
    Going back to yesterday’s question by Larry; i.e., define a conservative for the me and the others here (paraphrashing).  Will someone now define a “true-blue conservative for me”?  Yes, I voted for some presidents I probably should not have — guess mainly because I have pretty much have always felt government should help people (more in the sense of a hand up than a hand out).
     
    Guess if we are to talk true-blue conservatism Santorum is probably the closest of any of the remaining candidates to being in whaty I think that moldmay be although again we could question his being “true-blue”; i.e., voting against right to work because he represents a state strongly in favor of unions  — does a “true-blue” vote against his on strong beliefs?  Is Romney a “true-blue”?  Don’t think so.  Wouldn’t a “true-blue” have developed beliefs early on and not changed those beliefs — certainly flip-flopping and vague on obortion positions doesn’t seem to be “true-blue” and I would question whether Romneycare would fit into a “true-blue” beliefs.
     
    Am I happy about Gingrich’s divorces.  No.  Do I think choice of  candidates presents anyone who is a good choice to stand up to the Obama campaign and media bias that will be thrown against them.  Not reall. I know whoever it is, is going to have the kitchen sink, toilet, garbage cans, and all other possible trash thrown at him.  Does Gingrich have a lot of trash that can be thrown at him?  Most certainly.  Does Romney?  Not as much that I know of (a 1%er, apparent reluctance on releasing tax forms–certainly a reluctance about releasing 12 years of them, investments in the Cayman Islands–probably not a tremendous amount of money BUT…, and taking over companies — resulting in some employment and some closing of operations) but you better believe if he is the nominee there will be things we haven’t even dreamed of that may cast negative doubt in the minds of voters.
     
    You may think I am overdoing it on what is coming, but as I noted in a comment yesterday I am part of a coffee group (5 to 10 of us get together at local coffee/donut shop for 15 minutes to an hour or so to just talk–mainly current sports and local happenings–and at yesterday’s gathering two individuals (one very strong Obama supporter) brought up that there is no reason for anyone having money in the Cayman Islands other than to avoid paying taxes on interest income and at a gathering several weeks back when the Occupy Movement somehow got into the discussion Romney’s “billions — we were informed we did not know it was not billions” was mentioned. 
     
    I certainly am not a “true-blue conservative”.  Fact is I went from a 40+ year registered democrat supporting Hillary to having the Dem. party deciding it no longer needed me on May 31, 2008.  Now I am an independent but have decided that our government is totally out of control in regard to fiscal matters so guess now I am an independent with very strong fiscal conservative leanings.  I frankly believe that Newt is the only one who can stand up to the trash that will be thrown at the nominee and throw it back in Obama’s or the media’s faces.  It surprises me that so many have gone from the ABO feelings over the past many months to the recent ABO or Newt position.
     
    I do not know if Newt is truly repentent and changed –heck with some of the comments at the from the debates regarding illegals I would not be surprised if some today would find fault with Jesus Christ saying “Father, forgive them for they know not what they doeth.”  Well, I will continue to support Newt until he is eliminated by the establishment and then I will vote ABO — I may vote reluctantly and have misgivings about the nominee but I will vote for ABO.  Sorry I am not “true-blue” and do not think “true-blue” but that is just the way it is.  I will not call other voters names for whomever he/she supports but will support my candidate for my reason(s) and if he doesn’t come out the nominee, I will vote ABO.
     

  • Anonymous

    we are dealing with the generalized American public that is severely dumbed down and living off sound bites.  This is my concern and why I think Obama despite being the disaster that he is will get re-elected.

  • Anonymous

    we are dealing with the generalized American public that is severely dumbed down and living off sound bites.  This is my concern and why I think Obama despite being the disaster that he is will get re-elected.

  • Anonymous

    If conservatives are stupid enough to actually nominate the noxious Newt it will indeed be their end. At least for a very long time. The other party, whichever gains ascendance, always gets so arrogant that they give the descending party another shot. At which time they make some gains, as the GOP did in 2010 and now are about to do something so stupid they are handing Obama and the Obamacrats an easy win.

     A giant mobius strip of stupidity.

    Peter Wehner says it much better than I can:


    Not The Conservative Movement’s Finest Hour

    By Peter Wehner
    More: http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/01/20/newt-gingrich-marianne-press-debate/ 

  • Anonymous

    The arrogance and ego of the noxious Newt is what I pray will knock him down off his high-horse. His talent for self-destruction will emerge once again. It comes with Newt territory

    . But will it be before he gets the nomination?

  • Jrterrier

    to add to your view, fox just reported that the romney campaign is planning to deliver a cake to the gingrich campaign because today is the 15th anniversay of the date that Newt was reprimanded by the House on the ethics issues, the only Speaker in the country’s history to have been reprimanded and ordered to pay $300,000.  and it was a REP controlled house!

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    All corrupt politicians exploit the anger and helplessness of the masses. The left does it frequently as does the right. Not sure it makes anyone a Hitler even though they do carefully follow the same playbook. Perhaps we should just call them all Adolphs and bypass the nasty (or is that nazi) Hitler comparisons.

    I am not sure that true Conservatism ever existed. It’s a mantle many claim to follow yet none seem to follow through on. It’s like a catchy phrase. It sounds good but doesn’t really mean a damn thing except “we aren’t them.”

    Frankly it wouldn’t bother me is Conservatism was dead as well as Liberalism. They have both misled and destroyed the social and financial fabric of our country. Conservatives wrap themselves in the flag while simultaneously ripping to shreds the freedoms for which it stands. Libs do the same damn thing. Time after time.

    Isn’t it about time that the vast majority of us gathered together under the banner of Moderation? A little give and take is a responsible, respectful, adult way to resolve differences and to live in peace. If it pisses off the left and it pisses off the right, chances are that it is the best for we, the people.

  • Anonymous

    or as they used to say{put that in your pipe and smoke it}   LOL

  • Anonymous

    The daughters remarks about how sad divorce is and how “emotional” Marianne is told me that the daughters are chips off the old block. Nice way of saying she’s nuts.

    And the number of women who are making excuses for Newt and his busy penis by attacking Marianne is unbelievably repulsive.

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    If you ever look at Gingrich’s eyes when he thinks no one is looking it is very easy to see the devious child within him. It’s a side well known to those of us of a certain age. A new wife and a new religion can’t hide that.

    If Gingrich is the nominee, I will break my own vow and vote for all down ticket Dems. But chances are that if he is at the top of the ticket, the vast majority of people will vote the Dems in anyway and I can remain chaste.

  • Anonymous

    Mitt Romney is a moderate who swings right and panders to the extreme right of the party…He is no conservative and especially not a Goldwater Conservative….

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    I know I wouldn’t run for office with my, lets call it mischevious past.

    I suppose you are fortunate to only have a mischievous past. I’m more the past, present and future type myself.

  • Anonymous

    I will never break my vow…I will vote for whomever the GOP puts up…

    Oh well here we go again..For I have a feeling that that is part of the reason Obama won. Many were probably saying I will vote for anyone that is not a Democrat in 2008.

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    The problem is: Obama hasn’t been a disaster. Even Romney is now admitting that Obama has turned around the economy.

    Obama has had a ton of huge accomplishments. Here are just five to consider:

    1. 22 months of private job sector growth.

    2. ObamaCare which will help 30 million more Americans get health care. This is a huge success that history will look upon very kindly.

    3. GM is now the #1 car seller in the world. Romney wrote an op-ed saying we should “let Detroit go bankrupt.” 

    4. Osama Bin Laden. 

    5. Bringing an end to the Iraq War. 

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    including making his smarter brother, Jeb unelectable for some time into the future and perhaps never.

    Jeb is a lot smarter than his brother. Perhaps that is why he won’t run.

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    including making his smarter brother, Jeb unelectable for some time into the future and perhaps never.

    Jeb is a lot smarter than his brother. Perhaps that is why he won’t run.

  • Anonymous

    tru dat.         LOLOLOL

  • Anonymous

    tru dat.         LOLOLOL

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    This Republican party is no better than the disgusting “other” party I left on May 31, 2008.

    I’m a little surprised that you thought it might be.

  • Jrterrier
  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    Yeah, let Newt enjoy his moment. Then hit him with everything you got when he thinks he is invincible.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    Larry… what you have failed to understand is that God forgave Newt and he is a different man.  That makes me want to gag hearing that excuse.  As for as I am concerned it is not up to God to forgive somebody who has hurt another… it is the person hurt. Everything about the man creeps me out.  I am signed up to numerous newsletters… if I agree or not.  MMoA, TruthOut and Newsmax are all of the same stuff.  Newsmax has pushed this for a week now: “Newt Urgently Needs Your Help, Romney Is Sinking Fast” in their headlines.  Some Americans on both sides are just sheep.

  • Anonymous

    Although I don`t believe in your analysis, it was well thought out and presented. Please don`t compare yourself to some that come here and just shoot from the hip,

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    I like your thinking here.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    That is my sincere hope too… because if he wins big, the delusions will be even bigger.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    It’s funny how you keep pushing half thruths… but whatever.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    It’s funny how you keep pushing half thruths… but whatever.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mary.cusack Mary Cusack

    I’m getting this Tin Foil Hat Tingle that Gingrich is really being hired by axelrod.   that he is purposly trying to be the nominee in order to guarentee and Obama victory.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/mary.cusack Mary Cusack

    I’m getting this Tin Foil Hat Tingle that Gingrich is really being hired by axelrod.   that he is purposly trying to be the nominee in order to guarentee and Obama victory.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/mary.cusack Mary Cusack

    “God” forgiving people like gingrich without having to own up to the consequances of their actions and even reward them for their behavoir is the reason I worship the Goddess Pallas Athena……..she has a spear to show people you don’t fuck around.  Hail Athena!

  • Jrterrier

    a washington post article from 1997 about the gingrich ethics scandal that appears pretty balanced:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/govt/leadership/stories/012297.htm

  • Wisewoman

    Why don’t you give us the pleasure of defining a conservative.  Here is my definition of a fiscal conservative.  A person who believes in (a) balanced budgets, (b) taxes as low as possible to achieve a balanced budget, (c) paying for wars as you fight them, (d) sound fiscal policies, and (e) an appropriate safety net for US citizens that is affordable.  Recent presidents and the present candidates who fall under my definition are George Bush I, Bill Clinton and Mitt Rommney.  Bush Jr, Reagan, and Carter are not fiscal conservatives.  Bush Jr fails on all accounts (a,b,c.d, and e).  Reagan failed on a,b,and c (did not pay for his “Star Wars Plan’ which blew a hole in the deficit).  Carter enough said

  • Anonymous

    Conservative women defending Newt’s infidelity.  NOW defending Bill Clinton’s infidelity.  Political whores all.

  • Anthony

    Wouldn’t surprise me at all.

    OT-
    Haven’t seen you since Savage Politics!  Hope all is well!

  • yttik

    Larry, it appears that it’s not just conservatives who have lost their fricken minds.

  • PA

    I say nominate Newt and lets have a clear cut election of two very different views of the world. The Tea Party religiosity extreme right view of no government versus a secular view that believes government still means something. Lets see who wins.

  • yttik

    I’m not defending Newt. I didn’t defend Clinton, either, but what I do get sick and tired of is women choosing to portray themselves like this. The Clinton women, the Cain women, the Newt women, they were all adulterers who chose to have affairs with married men and now they’re cashing in on their moment of fame so they can all act like injured victims. Women need to be running for office, taking positions of leadership, not appearing on TV as the jilted lover of the week.

    I think Newt’s a sleezeball, but Mariane is annoying the crap out of me. Like duh, you were having an affair with a married man. Did you not think that what goes around comes around?

  • Anonymous

    Newt Gingrich surrendered any claim to being a conservative when he decided to attack Capitalism, as hilariously portrayed in the attached political cartoon.  The Contract with America lies in one bonfire, as the GOP elephants prepare to devour one of their own, labeled “Free Market Capitalism.” 

    The caption has “The Republican Party” with Republican scratched out and “Donner” replacing it.  We all know about the Donner Party, who turned cannibal to survive being snowed in at a mountain pass on their way to California.

  • Anonymous

    very well put.  I may be a recovering Democrat but that does not translate to me ever being a Republican.   oh no no never.

  • Anonymous

    Keep preaching, Larry! 

    Young people can be given some slack for not feeling the hair on their necks raise up in fear when they see Newt.  But people my age still get a visceral reaction (not a good one) whenever we see him.

    Damn, I wish I still had that Newt chew toy–I instead of my dog might be the one using it.

  • Scottymac54

    I suspect the GOP is using Gingrich as motormouth to throw out “bad” issues, so Romney doesn’t get “tarnished” at this early date, with sound bites and unfortunate word choices, that will be used against him in commercials during the general.

    It’s an effective use of financial resources, and no one can argue Newt is the epitome of “Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap”.

  • PA

    Steve “moderate”_in_KC,

    How do you figure he ” attack(ed) Capitalism”?

    Explain….

    Questioning Romney records of job creation (which Romney put out there himself) and questioning how he made his money is attacking capitalism? You have a pretty low standard.

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    his wife that look like she get her beauty treatments from a taxidermist

    Thanks, I needed a good laugh.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with you here.  We need to remember that the daughters are from the first marriage.  Marianne was their stepmother, and I would guess they have a little grudge about their mother’s divorce. 

    But I also agree with yttik below that it IS a little silly for a woman to think that someone who divorced his first wife under the circumstances in which Newt divorced Jackie–no matter whether your believe his or her story (though I believe the court documents)–would not eventually be unfaithful again. 

    But I am a bit more forgiving of her in that it WAS 18 years of her life serving his personal agenda of trying to reach the WH.

    Either way, I will have to move rather than be subjected to women’s magazine photos of FLOTUS Callista and stories gushing over her sense of style, etc.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for giving  me hope that someday i won’t have to see that head on my television screen.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for giving  me hope that someday i won’t have to see that head on my television screen.

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    I would like to hear what they think of Newt dumping their mother while she was undergoing cancer treatment. They don’t have a problem dissing Marianne, she isn’t their mom.

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    I would like to hear what they think of Newt dumping their mother while she was undergoing cancer treatment. They don’t have a problem dissing Marianne, she isn’t their mom.

  • Anonymous

    that is the point of the liberal agenda. They manipulate us women to think that we are the weaker sex and we should only be concerned about our vaginas/reproductive systems.

    This is why I ended up liking Sarah Palin because she had the cajones to stand up and say “you wanna piece of me”.

    I don’t necessarily agree with Sarah Palin and her policies but she is not afraid to stand up for what she believes in and more women should do the same.

    I used to feel the same way for Hillary Clinton but she just folded to save her political career. But sometimes, it’s best to bow out and let the shit roll where it needs too. I am glad she is just sitting back watching that idiot in office implode though.

  • Anonymous

    that is the point of the liberal agenda. They manipulate us women to think that we are the weaker sex and we should only be concerned about our vaginas/reproductive systems.

    This is why I ended up liking Sarah Palin because she had the cajones to stand up and say “you wanna piece of me”.

    I don’t necessarily agree with Sarah Palin and her policies but she is not afraid to stand up for what she believes in and more women should do the same.

    I used to feel the same way for Hillary Clinton but she just folded to save her political career. But sometimes, it’s best to bow out and let the shit roll where it needs too. I am glad she is just sitting back watching that idiot in office implode though.

  • Scottymac54

    Remember, this is all going to pale in comparison to Barky’s exploits with Daddy Rahm, into Chicago bathhouse culture.

    No shrinking violets there.

    Double down (no pun intended) into TRUE class warfare with Larry Sinclair, cruising in the limo.

    It will be 100% pure FILTH, regularly scheduled.

    And, an astounding amount of it will be corroborated by his own supporters, who will absolutely still continue to support him.

  • Ani

    I would believe anything at this point.  Too much Kabuki Theatre for my liking. 

    As to Larry’s point, I think people are resonating to Newt and his calling the media out on the carpet because they have been waiting and yearning hungrily for somebody, ANYBODY, to call the media thugs out on their hypocritical, bread and circus behavior and Newt hit a nerve.

    That stated, Gingrich is the biggest type of hypocrite to dare to fault them for calling him out on his serial adultery when he tried to hound Clinton out of the WH for the same.  Character matters or it doesn’t — but if it matters, it matters equally for all.

  • Anonymous

    LOL…. um OKAY.  Healthcare must be helping you already, supplying you some bad ass drugs

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    Not sure if it is true, but I read that Newt had already started divorce proceedings before they began fooling around. Please don’t take this as a justification of anything. But if it is true then she isn’t half the sleaze that Callista is. And Marianne has MS which can only impair her ability to communicate effectively.

  • Anonymous

    LOL…. I”ve calmed down quite a bit yes… I was just a young chick partying at heavy metal concerts having fun ;)

  • Anonymous

    It’s painful here in Colorado because to participate in the caucuses, a person HAS to be registered with a party.  Unaffiliated voters cannot participate in them.  I left the Dem party, became an unaffilitated voter but had to re-register as a Republican to vote in this.  Then when I would like to vote in a Dem primary, I have to go through the whole process again.  It’s gotten to the point that I don’t know what I am.  It’s always unnerving lately that NOW I receive mail from the Republicans while still getting mail from the Dems, since no one updates their mailing lists.

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    I voted for all Republicans the last two elections. It really hasn’t changed a damn thing.

  • Anonymous

    Now you have me thinking—I thought to myself that if Newt is nominated, I would work hard to get more Republicans in the Senate–mostly because I think a Newt nomination will mean an O re-election.

    Wow–what to do, what to do?

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    I’ll give Obama credit for leaving Iraq. The war rages on.

  • Anonymous

    Here’s my little hope–I picture all those Southern good ole’ boys and their wives heading to vote.  Then I picture the curtains pulled behind each one as each enters the voting booth.  Then I picture the woman all voting NOT NEWT and cancelling out their husbands.  The problem is that all the other candidates do not have despicable histories in regard to marriages–so their votes may be scattered across the board.  We can only hope their desire to put Newt in his place will carry toward really jerking his chain by voting Romney.

  • no longer a democrat

    I cannot believe the republicans are stupid enough to nominate Newt Gingrich. I really cannot believe they are this stupid. Looks like the Tea party, who I thought brought some sense to the repubs, are going along with this stupidity.

    This country is really screwed. If Newt’s the nominee, this country is done, Obama will have free reign for another 4 years, with no threat of reelection, who knows how much damage he will do, and I thought W was bad, I spoke too soon.
    Mitt Romney has a good chance to defeat Barry, and Repubs want to throw that away. My God, the repubs really are the stupid party, and dems are now the socialist & marxist party.

    235 years after 1776, and this is where we are now. I just shake my head in hurt and disgust.

  • Anonymous

    Wow–you just don’t see it as some of us see it.  There will NOT be a choice between two different views of the world.  We will have to choose between Tweedledum and Tweedledee.  In either case, we will get an incompetent, full-of-himself, narcissist, and person who is in it all for himself and not for the sake of the country.

  • Steve

    Kudos to you Larry! America will be the greatest country again with you educating the endemic people relentlessly! Hehehehe….

    If you think in terms of a year, plant a seed; if in terms of ten years, plant trees; if in terms of 100 years, teach the people.Confucius

  • Anonymous

    Come on–be more truthful here.  Admist that it’s your Pampers that are wet. 

  • no longer a democrat

    ” The Tea Party religiosity extreme right view of no government”

    What a stupid and ignorant statement. I’ve been to many TP events, they
    oppose crony unions, crony capitalism, and crony govt — which happens
    when you have a huge govt, lots of places for cockroaches to hide. They
    aren’t against govt, but limited govt, constitutional govt, which means
    a non-crony govt

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    We already have a professor for president, lecturing us. Do you really think we need another?

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    Goldwater opposed the Civil Rights Act because he thought it was a federal intrusion on state’s rights. He believed that businesses within states had the right to discriminate against anyone they saw fit. He supported the witch hunt efforts of Joseph McCarthy.

    Do you really think we need more “conservatives” like that running this country?

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    I really like your definition.

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    I love it. Newt Donner Gingrich!

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    I love it. Newt Donner Gingrich!

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    Well, Romney’s efforts actually created jobs. He invested HIS money and overall did a pretty good job of helping businesses to grow and employ people. Contrast that with Gingrich who claims that under his stewardship the government created jobs.

    How can Gingrich call himself a conservative and still claim that the government he was a leader of created jobs?

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    According to Gingrich he asked for forgiveness. I don’t think there is any evidence that God forgave him.Quite the contrary, I would posit.

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    Hail Athena indeed!

  • Lupe

    Amazon.com is offering an electronic copy of the book, “the Pact”‘ for $1.99. This book tells how Gingrich was working with Clinton to “revolutionize” government. This would have been going on before their respective downfalls. I haven’t read it yet, but I intend to at least speed-read it because I also believe we need more compromise and less ideology in Washington. I have always suspected both Gingrich and Clinton were ousted because neither is a rabid partisan, which is okay with me. The truth is that just about anybody in DC or the media who opens their mouth
    about morals is a stinking hypocrite. I would like to tell them ALL to just shut up about all this soap opera stuff and get down to business. In case, they haven’t noticed, the entire world is going to hell in a handbasket.

  • no longer a democrat

    I will add that one of the main and only things I do like about Newt is his ability and willingness to go after a corrupt lefty media.

    I never believed the media to be corrupt until what I saw in 2008, especially on May 31th 2008, not a little bit of outrage from the so-called media, they all went along it. As they no longer seem to be interested in keeping people in power in check, they are just advocates for the left, and Barry, no matter how much corruption he & the dems are involved in.
    The media is part of the left. And Newt, to his credit, is brilliant at going after them and pointing it out over and over again.

    I hope this man is not the nominee, I really hope this is not the case. I will have to hold my nose really tight to vote for him, because I sure as heck am not staying home and not voting.

  • William L. Donlon

    Jrterrier:      Newt Is “The Sixth Player”!

    Basket Ball Has A Starting Five —

    The Dream Of Every Boy Or Girl Who Played The Game Is To “Make The Starting Five”.

    Then There Is “The Bench”. Subs For Injuries, To Spell Tired Players, —– Prospects For Next Year’s — Starting Five.

    How Are We Doing So Far — Nothing You Don’t Know Right?

    Stay With Me.

    Then There Is What Coaches, — The Smart Ones, — Call —

     ”The Sixth Player”

    Understand — He/She Is NOT First Sub!! —

    A Sixth Player Will NEVER Be Starting Five! —

    They Lack Something, Usually Height, That Can Not Be Made Up With Talent Or Hard Work.

    They Are “Spark Plugs” , They Are Talented, Can “Read The Floor” And Can Make It Up On The Run.

    OK So far?? — Still With Me.

    You Come Into A Big – Must Have – Game — In This Case — 2012

    You Have A Game Plan — Practiced It With Your Starting 5

    It’s A Good Plan — But Your Players Start Flat

    Call time Out  –Pep Talk The Players — Send Them Back In And It Gets Worse, Now Their Fans Are Into It And —

    Their Five Are Looking cocky — Your Players Are Looking Ready To Panic.—

    Time For The “Sixth Player” — Everyone Knows The Drill.

    The Remaining Four Have Practiced “Sixth Player Drills.

    They Are To Look For And Feed  The Sixth Player The Ball!!!]

    Once You feed Him — Break For Defense —

    BECAUSE HE  IS GOING TO SHOOT!!

    Put The Score Board On The Moon — It Doesn’t Exist During The Sixth Man Drill.

    Now You — The Coach — Counts –Two. —

     Two Time Outs By The Other Coach.– On The First,  –  He Will Use It To Settle His Players Down. BUT —

    On The Second — He Will Make Adjustments To Deal With Your Sixth Player.

    You Have Interrupted Their Game Plan, F’d With Their Confidence & Taken Their Fans Out.

    Now You Pull The Sixth Player __ Put Back In The Starting Five & Execute Your Game Plan.

    Moral Of This “March Madness Tale —

    Let Newt Be Newt! — He Is A Hell Of A Sixth Player And —

    He’s On A Roll

    For Those Of You Who Feel That Newt Is An SOB —

    Remember The Words Of FDR –

    “He May Be An SOB – But – He’s Our SOB”!!

  • no longer a democrat

    And Newt is an excellent debater, to him in a debate against Soetero may be enough for me to root for Newt. 

  • Wana

    Depressing times indeed…good observation LJ. The fact that at such a critical juncture in our country’s history we get these characters (Mitt is the best but “weak”) to pick from to challenge BO…truly depressing. Think…no fear….what lies ahead. Time to buy more lead.

  • BINKY

    Mitt’s not perfect either and I doubt that he could beat Obama.  Maybe no one can.

  • Wana

    Actually since I last wrote…I’ve changed my mind YET AGAIN…aaaagh (sorry Larry). The devil we know who can wallop BO in a debate is the G guy…with all his $$ surely Romney could afford some debating lessons…if he had that fire up there on stage it would be a game changer. BO MUST GO or G-D help the Republic.

  • BINKY

    I think there’s plenty about Mitt to be concerned about; he’s as slick as slick Willy.  Cain was my original choice.  I’ll vote for Romney if I have to because it’s ABO for me.  But, I don’t like him.  McCain’s opposition book has been released on Romney and it’s online for anyone that wants to look at it.  Here’s another view of Mitt Romney (flip flopping around) via Ann Barnhardt, who some thinks is a crazy person:  
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ARnzBOkKAiE

  • BINKY

    Conservatives are not stupid.  Unlike Larry, who has insider insight, most voters have only what they hear in debates and from the media whom they’ve learned to distrust to attempt to make an informed decision.  

  • BINKY

    The reason we got Obama is two-fold:  Anyone but George Bush and lack of vetting by the media (not just lack of vetting, but outright covering up the truth).

  • BINKY

    I plan to work to get more Republicans in Congress.  I hope some of the career politicians from both sides will be replaced with representatives with a back-bone.

  • BINKY

    I plan to work to get more Republicans in Congress.  I hope some of the career politicians from both sides will be replaced with representatives with a back-bone.

  • BINKY

    How could you know whether God forgave him?  Obviously his children have.

  • BINKY

    Thank you.

  • no longer a democrat

    I find myself changing my mind as well.  Newt seems the only one
    willing to go after Soetero and his protective media very hard and
    constantly.

    All I know is I want that jerk in the WH defeated and kicked out in November. 

  • Jrterrier

    Romney made one debate flub in 17.  Just one. 

    Newt has made multiple ones.  He used the media as a foil but that show won’t play everywhere in America.

  • Jrterrier

    i just made my first contribution to the Romney campaign.  I encourage anyone who wants to have a chance in November to do the same.

  • Jrterrier

    let’s not lose all hope.  this is one state.

  • Sue H.

    I am pretty far right on the conservative scale but there is no way in hell I would ever vote for the repulsive Newt Gingrich.   I might be able to hold my nose and vote for Romney, but if it’s Gingrich I will either stay home or vote third party.

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    I can see your point. But if Gingrich was the nominee and somehow ended up being elected we would need some kind of buffer to balance things out. I believe strongly that our country should represent all the people, not one party or ideology. I’m into seeking the middle. If fat boy were president I’m fairly certain he would proclaim himself emperor.

  • http://uhscuseme.wordpress.com/ Pat Riot

    I don’t know. Nor do you or he.

    When he owns up to his transgressions and apologizes to his ex-wife I’ll give him a pass on this particular character flaw.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    I just commented on Mitt’s FB wall that he needs to fire the professionals who run his campaign and roll up his sleeves and fight for it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    The Tea Party is not a social movement… it is about fiscal responsibibilty… or this Independent would not be a supporter.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    Thanks for sharing… posted on my FB.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    I heard many people who said that God forgave him… they should know. ;-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    Sarcasm obviously goes above some people’s head?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    Who gives a shit about his adult daughters?  They were not wronged… the wife was.

  • Graywolf98

    The same old reason that the south lost the civil war.
    They’re fucking morons.

  • Graywolf98

    The same old reason that the south lost the civil war.
    They’re fucking morons.

  • cookiegramma

    not to be redundant here, but Callista is the wife of a Republican, what would make you think any of the media would gush over anything she did?

  • Mad as Hell

    Why isn’t Romney pulling away from the pack?
    Why are his poll numbers nationwide in a meltdown?
    Where is Romney’s emotional connection to the voters?
    The anti-Obama public is doing everything to give Romney a wake-up call and he keeps hitting the snooze alarm.

  • Mad as Hell

    You and the others who are thinking about staying home should think bigger — you won’t see the party implode … you’ll see the country implode.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    Kata Kimbe ‎@Jack H That is almost funny… since they have had more negative stories on Romney than the others combined according to a study this week. They wet themselves thinking they will have Newt to fondle for months to come and the big O will not be “that” but Obama reelected.http://www.rightspeak.net/2012/01/left-and-right-media-are-most-highly.html RIGHT SPEAK: Left and Right Media Are Most Highly Negative In Their Romney Coverage http://www.rightspeak.net 2 minutes ago · LikeUnlike ·

  • Mad as Hell

    Money does not seem to be his problem.  All the money in the world will not give him the emotional connection to the voters he will need to fight Barack Obama.  Don’t give him money, buy him some fire to put in his belly.

  • Anonymous

    We have a perfectly good candidate for president who represents conservative values, you need look no further than Wiley Drake, who is the Independent Party’s candidate.   He is a practising Christian minister in Buena Park CA of a Southern Baptist church.  You can check him out on UTube, in many of his appearances, including some testifying in Congress.   We have had a dreadful time with the Dems and the GOP so unless they want to be more of a fool than they are already, they better take some steps in the right direction, otherwise we are sunk.   It will be a “sinking” infinitely worse than the Carnival Cruise ship going down or the Titanic.    Think thermonuclear world war three.

  • Anonymous

    Her main drawback is that she reeks of Prince Charles’s second wife.
    At least all Newts wives are still alive.
    The same goes for Larry Sinclair and Rahm Emanuel, but what about Donald Young.   It’s getting rather hectic up in here.

  • guest

    What were the people of South Carolina thinking?  I’m white, southern,  rural, and from Georgia  but I’m not prone to be entranced by orators.  There is something a little sickening about it.  No….There’s something very sickening about it.  Obama did it.  Will Newt?  God help us.

    Does no one look at the past of these people and say ‘something is fundamentaly wrong or lacking here’?

    Someone please tell Mitt he needs to be seen hunting.

  • Anonymous

    Wow Larry. I had to read this to my husband who a couple of hours ago said he heard Gingrich speak after his victory. He also said Gingrich sounded just like Hitler.
    As the line goes “I liked it better in the original German.”

  • wylrae

    Cain was also my first choice.  I have pretty much the same feelings about Mitt; seems too polished which makes me uneasy.  But I most definitely will be voting ABO.

  • Scottymac54

    You supported a pathetic compromise.

    Which states do you believe would vote for your “step in the right direction”, if given the chance?

    Now, how many states would vote for true single-payer healthcare, if given a chance?

    And you call yourself progressive?  HA!

  • wylrae

    I don’t know about conservatives being stupid but I know anyone who would back Newt is because we are being told by several people on here that you have to be stupid to vote for him.  Might just be best if some sort of government department is formed to decide who everyone should vote for.  that way instead of being stupid we are just doing as we are told.

  • Scottymac54

    BTW, I met Diane Sare the other day.  Very pleasant.

  • wylrae

    Of course there some in the media who openly backed Obama; i.e., there was that one commentator who said Obama gave him this warm, tingly feeling down his leg.  Now that commentator’s intelligence should be questioned IMHO since he apparently can’t recognize the difference between the warm, tingly feeling of inspiration and that of warm pee running down his leg!

  • wylrae

    Yes, a common sense approach.

  • wylrae

    “Some Americans on both sides are just sheep.”

    Come on Kata just go ahead and call us dumb or stupid we are used to it; after all we seen it above and in other posts here so we are used to it.     

  • Anonymous

    Larry I think your long close association with the Clintons has made it impossible for you to look upon Gingrich objectively.  By the way, it is Romney who is decidedly not a conservative, and never has been.  Romney is the one who guarantees Obama’s re-election, which may not be objectionable to you.  I understand and somehwat sympathize with you on this, because Hillary could run again in 2016 at age 70, but couldn’t realistically do so at age 74.

  • Anonymous

    Anyone who wants to have a chance at actually beating Obama should be contributing to anyone besides Romney. 

  • Anonymous

    You can’t really be serious about Romney’s chances.  They are non-existent

  • Anonymous

    Women who make excuses for behavior they would otherwise condemn because of politics are hypocrites.

    Conservative women who defend infidelity have lost all credibility when talking about “family values.”

  • Anonymous

    That Noxious Newt would have his daughters defending his screwing around tells you all you need to know about daddy dearest. That they would do it tells you a whole lot about them. Chips off the old block.

  • Anonymous

    Not stupid? Well enough of them were stupid enough in SC to vote to put the noxious Newt and his floozy in the White House.  If they actually want to see Obama defeated they were stupid enough to vote for a POS that cannot wina general election.

  • Anonymous

    No one’s telling you how you should vote.  Grow up.

    People have been voting stupid for generations. Rabid partisanship and partisans can do no less.

     I ought to know, I was a stupid, partisan Democrat for many years. A situation, and many stupid votes, I deeply regret and am ashamed to admit to.

    How can putting a POS serial adulterer who was kicked out of his speakership by his own party up against the billion dollar Obama smear machine be anything but stupid?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think so. Romney has a chance, a slim chance at that to defeat the billion dollar Obama smear machine aka campaign. Newt? No chance whatsoever. Therefore no need to hold nose and vote to put a scumbag in the White House.

  • Anonymous

    After Newt’s win in South Carolina I don’t think I will ever be able to hear/read the phrase “family values” from a conservative without laughing. What absolute hypocrisy.

  • Scottymac54

    Why?  74 is hardly old.

    I support Dr. Ron Paul, precisely BECAUSE I’m sick to death of a culture that worships serial philanderers AND mind-controlled puppets that pretend to rule from TV chairs, basketball playoffs, flip-flops and People Magazine.

    AND, none of them know shit from shinola.

    Serious “challenges” are coming at us, from right down the pike.

    No time for litmus tests, or ideological fanaticism.

    We need experience and wisdom at the helm, YESTERDAY!

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    If Mitt is seen hunting it will be like Dukakis in the tank. The last thing Romney needs is such an obviously fake attempt at being something he’s not. 

    His only real hope for the nomination now is that Gingrich implodes. But fortunately him, there seems to be a rather large chance of that happening.

    I just saw an anti-Gingrich ad from Ron Paul that seems to me to be extremely effective… but then again — I’m not the target market so I could be wrong. 

    But my point is: Gingrich will probably fail… that’s Romney’s chance… he just has to keep trucking along and he’ll probably still wind up as the nominee.

    Then the hard part: Going up against real competition for the first time when he faces President Obama.

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    The problem is that the “anti-Obama public” is actually even more anti-Romney. Obama has superior favorables to Romney according to just about every non GOP propaganda/Fox News poll. 

    America doesn’t want Gordon Gekko and his Cayman Island millions in the White House cutting his own already disgustingly low tax rate even lower while screwing over the 99%.

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    *Popcorn* Man I love watching you guys go at it! As someone who lives in reality (ie: Obama supporter) I must say I agree with Jrterrier – Romney is the GOP’s only shot. Gingrich has no chance. None. But that said; Romney is not a strong candidate either.

    This reminds me so much of 2008 Obama vs. Clinton … except for one big difference: People actually liked Obama & Clinton. I supported Obama at the time but as a sane person who cares about policy first and personality second — I would have obviously supported Clinton as well. She would have been a fine President (and may still be in 2016!) That was a battle of positives. It’s like which one of these winners are we going to get? Either one of them will win the White House and be a great President.

    Gingrich vs. Romney? This is a battle of negatives. It’s like: Which of these losers are you going to be stuck with?

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    … Are you talking to yourself? … Who is the “G guy”? Gingrich? It’s hilarious that people actually think Gingrich stands a chance in the general election.

  • Scottymac54

    Much more likely that their permanent allowances (read: “legacy”) get cut off, if they don’t dance to da-da’s tune.

    Don’t kid yourself, that those sort of deals don’t go down, between families.

    I wouldn’t rule out Marianne getting her own cut, for her use of “selective memory”.

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    Why are you “no longer a democrat” ??? Are you a weak minded person who votes based on personality rather than issues? 

    Why is Obama a jerk? … don’t you think the person calling the President of the US by the last name of his step-father is the real jerk? 

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    It seems to me that you are the thing that sane people fear. “Buy more lead”? Are you referring to buying bullets for your guns? … I mean. Damn the crazy is strong with this lot. What are you people so afraid of? What imaginary demons have you cooked up?

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    Just repeating things over and over again doesn’t make them true. What corruption? It’s like the people who keep saying that Obama grew the government even when he’s shrinking it. Or the people who say he raised taxes when he hasn’t. Or when people act like helping 30 million more Americans get health care isn’t a big deal. 

    The attacks on Obama are all baseless. There is not a shred of evidence for any of them. 

  • Scottymac54

    Romney has more of a chance than just slim, I think.

    The GOP has to decide who to hedge their bets on….the “values” voters or the independents.

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    Except just attacking the moderator and saying racist stuff isn’t going to win a debate against the President. It may be enough to impress some rednecks in South Carolina, but that’s not going to fly where people aren’t complete idiots.

  • Scottymac54

    “Why are you “no longer a democrat” ??? Are you a weak minded person who votes based on personality rather than issues?”
    See, frankly, you are now bordering on becoming just another asshole.

    Do you realize that a significant proportion of commenters here were Hillary supporters, that were completely disenfranchised by the political party they helped to build, over the course of several decades?

    Do you even understand the profile of the typical commenter here?

    You’re clueless, completely clueless, because you’ve got your head so far up Barky’s ass, you wouldn’t be able to see reality if he had a compact fluorescent spiral bulb secreted there.

    Pathetic.

    Not a PENNY, to ANY Democratic cause, until your kind is curbed, and tied to the nearest meter.

    Keep it up, Mr. Plouffe, and we’ll make the boycott permanent.

  • Scottymac54

    Remember your own point of dialogue, when Team Obama’s own choice to “give up” on the white working class comes back to bite you on your simple, multicultural ass.

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    Hillary likely will run for President (despite what she says now) in 2016. I suppose she can run & win whether she is taking over for Obama or winning the White House back from Romney. 

    I guess my point is that your point doesn’t make any sense. Clinton can run in 2016 whether Obama wins this year or not. 

    ~~~

    As far as looking at Gingrich objectively – it’s quite obvious that you are the one who is not. To the majority of Americans Gingrich is simply unacceptable. He’s a nasty man with bad ideas who should not be allowed anywhere near the White House. 

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    I completely understand the demographic. I actually used to visit this site back in 2008 because I was obsessed with how crazy the commenters here are… I came back out of curiosity to see if there were still people holding onto those crazy grudges… and apparently there are. I seriously think it’s a form of mental illness.

  • nomobama

    This article is emotionalism, and more importantly, Newt is not Obama. Get over the 90′s already. The Clintons seem to have done so. I think you are wrong on this.

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    How has Obama given up on the white working class? Absurd. And the idea that the Republicans are in anyway a friend of the working class? Even more absurd. The GOP is the party of the 1%.

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    “I would believe anything at this point.” … this quote could be applied to too many Americans. People are too quick to believe irrational crazy things because of their own confusion and lack of knowledge. 

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    Thanks for being part of the problem: Republicans in congress.

    The GOP is willing to sabotage our economy in order to hurt the President. They are everything wrong with our country today.

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    I absolutely love this crazy theory that there was a “lack of vetting” of Obama when he was absolutely raked over the coals for all kinds of insignificant nonsense. I mean we heard clips from his pastor on the news nonstop for weeks. Meanwhile there were clips of some absolutely insane stuff going on in Sarah Palin’s church that never got any mainstream media play. 

    The really sad and crazy thing is that I see some anti-Obama people saying they are going to run on Jeremiah Wright and “cling to guns & bible” again. Like that’s still the stuff they talk about. That really shows you how weak the case against Obama is.

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    Sure it has. It’s made things worse. The Republicans are intentionally sabotaging our economy. They are dangerous to the future of the US.

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    It’s amazing to me to think that there are people in this world who actually think Newt Gingrich is a better choice for the White House than Barack Obama. It’s such an absurd opinion that it’s hard to believe a human being (rather than a character in a TV show or something…) actually has it. 

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    It’s amazing to me to think that there are people in this world who actually think Newt Gingrich is a better choice for the White House than Barack Obama. It’s such an absurd opinion that it’s hard to believe a human being (rather than a character in a TV show or something…) actually has it. 

  • Vince Foster

    LOL….ROFLMAO….A HOOT AND A HOLLER….

    A DEVOUT CLINTONISTA….LECTURING ON CONSERVATISM.

    LOL…sorry I can’t stop

    PRESIDENT NEWT….what a nice ring that has to it…

  • Vince Foster

    IF???….ROFLMAO

  • Vince Foster

    It’s amazing to me that…any American would support Li’l Barry over…ANYONE.

    Obama is the greatest political failure of Modern Times….unless you are a Communist.

    Are you a Communist….sure seems so.

  • PA

    It called Obama Derangement Syndrome (ODS) and NQ has always had a very big dose of it. It is an alternative reality devoid of facts and logic. It is about being against something just because the other guy is for it, even if it was your original idea or you were originally for it.

  • PA

    There is absolutely no evidence that Romney created a single job (other than a few at Bain itself). Being an investor is not creating jobs. He is no Steve Jobs. He did  not invent a thing or has a product to show us. Private equity is not about job creation.

    His jobs record as Governor of MA was terrible. He ranked 42 out of 50 Governors during his time as a “job creator” with his executive experience as Governor of MA.

    Prove me wrong.

  • PA

    The Tea Party is about no government. Everyone is for fiscal responsibilty. They have no monopoly on that.

  • PA

    How are unions as you say “crony unions”? What has a union done to you lately? They fight for the rights of workers and the middle class. What is wrong with that?

    The entire Tea Party is the exact definition of crony capitalism. Who do you think funds FreedomWorks and who do you think pays Dick Armey?

    The government of the United States has done nothing but shrink under Obama. So he must be your man.

  • nomobama

    Yeah, like you believing Obama is a Democrat.

  • Anonymous

    This election season is turning out to be Comedy Central.  I’m just going to sit back, pop the popcorn, pour another glass of wine and watch both parties implode.  The Dems are afraid The Annointed One won’t win, and the Repugs are afraid Gingrich, Paul or Santorum will win and Romney (The Repugs Annointed One) won’t win.  All I can say is I’m glad I’m not a Repug and I’m glad I’m still a registered Dem who continues to be a thorn in the side of the Dem. Party.

  • Anonymous

    Third Party is looking better and better to me everyday.  Gasp says the majority of people on this blog. 

  • ctfsh

    Newt tapped into some brilliant fragmented media strategy because the young (college-age) people at our Christmas table were for him. One could barely remember his name, but said he’d worked with/for Ronald Reagan, and she admired that.

  • BINKY

    @ all who refer to Newt as a serial adulterer:  Straight out of college, my first ever vote cast for a President was for John F Kennedy, who as it turned out, was also a serial adulterer.  So who knows who among all the Presidents and all the elected representatives have been serial adulterers?  Even President Obama could be referred to as a serial adulterer if you believe Larry Sinclair and Kevin Dujuan over at Hillbuzz.org.  I don’t condone adultery, but I’m just saying…

  • BINKY

    Just like Obama tapped into the young people…lest you forget how dumb they were.

  • Anonymous

    Watched a bit of Triumph of the Will. Reminded me quite a bit of the adulation that Obama received during the campaign more than anything connected with Gingrich. Given the choice of four more years of an incompetent buffoon like Obama or Gingrich, the choice is pretty clear.

  • nomobama

    Good for you. If you do I hope you’ll be happy with another 4 years of the thug who’s in office now. It will give the rest of us something else to b!tch about on anti-Obama blogs. You know, how people just couldn’t vote for the lesser of two evils because this election is more about making themselves feel better, frick saving the country from a committed radical thug. That’ll show ‘em. Jeesh.

  • nomobama

    Good for you. If you do I hope you’ll be happy with another 4 years of the thug who’s in office now. It will give the rest of us something else to b!tch about on anti-Obama blogs. You know, how people just couldn’t vote for the lesser of two evils because this election is more about making themselves feel better, frick saving the country from a committed radical thug. That’ll show ‘em. Jeesh.

  • nomobama

    It’s not a theory, Einstein. Obama wasn’t vetted, and it figures that an Obama voter would indicate that he was. Stupid is not just what you contemptuously describe as rednecks. Case in point… you.

  • nomobama

    Your comments are moronic. The Tea Party would not have ever come about if it wasn’t for the reckless spending of government. Obama’s 5 trillion dollar spending spree with no return on his investment is a prime example. The only thing stimulated were his crony friends who waxed themselves over the piles of cash that have never been accounted for, and praised Obama for their ill-begotten windfall.

  • nomobama

    Your comments are moronic. The Tea Party would not have ever come about if it wasn’t for the reckless spending of government. Obama’s 5 trillion dollar spending spree with no return on his investment is a prime example. The only thing stimulated were his crony friends who waxed themselves over the piles of cash that have never been accounted for, and praised Obama for their ill-begotten windfall.

  • puma_for_life

    I don’t know if the people on this blog understand that neither Gingrich or Santorum can get enough delegates to win the nomination because their names are not on all of the state ballots. Gingrich is not on VA or MO; Santorum is not on four state ballots.  Only Romney and Paul are on all 50 ballots.

  • Anonymous

    Hey Scottymac, so happy to hear you think Dian Sare is alright.
    All the laRouche candidates are great, you probably have checked them out on the website. They are looking for some congressmen and women who are already elected, from both sides of the isle, to join their “crusade” you might as well call it. Mr laRouche has the most incredible grasp on the whole ball of wax including space time and all that good stuff, and the Basement Team is doing great work on the weather and other matters that are affecting our planet apart from the current president of the US. He actually has a vision of the future, full of really well thought out propositions that would help us to advance our standard of living no end, and help people who are in the doldrums everywhere. He set off a huge discussion about the idea of collaboration among major powers for the space mission, you may have already checked it out, it has gotten an enthusiastic reception, people really are not happy about the thermonuclear war that is hanging over our heads like the Sword of Damocles. Best of the best to you and all the other No Quarterers!

  • Anonymous

    41 percent of married women voted for Newt in the SC primary.  That is a high level of hypocrisy.  Of course, we don’t know how many of these espouse family values.  Nevertheless, rather startling.

  • Anonymous

    This election was really about not wanting Romney. No matter how many time the GOP insiders tries to push him down our throats, we keep puking him out. Why? Well, we don’t think the guys has any core beliefs. He pays a bunch of consultants to tell him what he needs to do to win; but he never realized that he needs to connect with voters first.  Everything with him feels so scripted. Newt has his flaws; but at least we feel like the guy believes in what he is saying and doing so with some passion. 

  • Anonymous

    Besides what can anyone point to that Romney has done for the conservative movement?

  • Mr34chevy

    Yeh And he showed up for a Photo Op at Fort Hood too!

  • Anonymous

    I believe a conservative is someone who does not day dream like you do.

    We all believe in smaller government, more personal liberties, more economic liberties, less spending, fewer taxes… Then there is reality….

    However no matter what the devil is always in the details..

  • Anonymous

    Yes was he was not perfect… But your rewriting history. Yes he was true to his states rights belief. Goldwater supported the original Senate version of the civil rights act. But decided against the 64 act because of his state rights convictions not bigotry. Yes it hurt him politically and its also changed him.

    He however did not support the witch hunts of McCarthy. He opposed his censure. Give me a break! Get it straight!

    No lets support the likes of Pete King who sees terrorists under his bed every night and folk like McCain and Graham the drivers of the NDAA!

    Please….

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