Comments on: State of DisUnion and Delusion http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/64599/state-of-disunion-and-delusion/ Sun, 27 May 2012 12:54:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Anonymous http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/64599/state-of-disunion-and-delusion/#comment-1560390 Anonymous Thu, 26 Jan 2012 05:08:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=64599#comment-1560390 Whatever the real story, the chances of Ventura having access to it are pretty slim.  His television series on conspiracies is so pathetically egotistical and misinformed that I want to find and donate to some charity that can work on curing that disease. Whatever the real story, the chances of Ventura having access to it are pretty slim.  His television series on conspiracies is so pathetically egotistical and misinformed that I want to find and donate to some charity that can work on curing that disease.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/64599/state-of-disunion-and-delusion/#comment-1560387 Anonymous Thu, 26 Jan 2012 04:59:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=64599#comment-1560387 You refuse to see the obvious so you will have to wait for the European concern to take effect. You refuse to see the obvious so you will have to wait for the European concern to take effect.

]]> By: PA http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/64599/state-of-disunion-and-delusion/#comment-1560384 PA Thu, 26 Jan 2012 04:15:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=64599#comment-1560384 You seem to have a nice balance of reading. Very different then NQ, which almost always quotes or cuts and pastes from far-right sources of information. I think you have got most of the news sources covered. I read most of those myself. Please feel free to point out anything that is factually incorrect in my arguments. Or argue a different interpretation of the facts. I am very interested in hear your point of view, which is quite the opposite to what all others on NQ will say about my comments. It is quite a bubble of Obama hate. You seem to have a nice balance of reading. Very different then NQ, which almost always quotes or cuts and pastes from far-right sources of information.

I think you have got most of the news sources covered. I read most of those myself.

Please feel free to point out anything that is factually incorrect in my arguments. Or argue a different interpretation of the facts.

I am very interested in hear your point of view, which is quite the opposite to what all others on NQ will say about my comments. It is quite a bubble of Obama hate.

]]> By: PA http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/64599/state-of-disunion-and-delusion/#comment-1560383 PA Thu, 26 Jan 2012 04:08:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=64599#comment-1560383 What is your point? How old is your first quote? Recent news out of Europe suggests the likelihood of a recession in Germany is actually receeding (see my comments above). Sure the Southern European countries may experience a recession and there is likely a minor one in the U.K., but so far no sign of a major recession for the EU. Only speculation of one, like in the article you quote. As for your second reference to the U.S. government trade representative site I think you need to study the numbers a little closer. I have gone through them once before and I will go through them again for you. Europe only makes up 20% of all U.S. exports. It is a decline in exports from the U.S. to Europe that would have the biggest negative impact on the U.S. economy. Total U.S. exports to all countries around the world only make up 13% of the U.S.'s GDP. The U.S. economy is largely a domestic economy, it is not reliant on exports. With Europe making up only 20% of total U.S. exports then at most European exports represent 2.6% (13% x 20%) of U.S. GDP. Exports to Europe would have to fall almost to zero for it to push the U.S. into a recession and even at zero exports to Europe we still would not likely be in a recession. Mr. Johnson has been saying the U.S. is heading for a double dip recession for two years (it is his many argument against Obama) and the U.S. economy has done nothing but strengthen over the last two years. We will see how close the U.S. is to a 3% growth rate in the fourth quarter later this week. Now since things are actually improving in the U.S., Mr. Johnson switches his argument that Europe will push the U.S. into recession. I am saying that is not likely. I appreciate the effort. I appreciate you are at least attempting a rational discussion rather than constant meaningless personal attacks that NQ is know for with any decenting view. Happy to discuss the facts and interpretations of the facts any time. That is generally what discussion boards are for. http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NE.EXP.GNFS.ZS     What is your point?

How old is your first quote? Recent news out of Europe suggests the likelihood of a recession in Germany is actually receeding (see my comments above). Sure the Southern European countries may experience a recession and there is likely a minor one in the U.K., but so far no sign of a major recession for the EU. Only speculation of one, like in the article you quote.

As for your second reference to the U.S. government trade representative site I think you need to study the numbers a little closer.

I have gone through them once before and I will go through them again for you.

Europe only makes up 20% of all U.S. exports. It is a decline in exports from the U.S. to Europe that would have the biggest negative impact on the U.S. economy. Total U.S. exports to all countries around the world only make up 13% of the U.S.’s GDP. The U.S. economy is largely a domestic economy, it is not reliant on exports. With Europe making up only 20% of total U.S. exports then at most European exports represent 2.6% (13% x 20%) of U.S. GDP. Exports to Europe would have to fall almost to zero for it to push the U.S. into a recession and even at zero exports to Europe we still would not likely be in a recession.

Mr. Johnson has been saying the U.S. is heading for a double dip recession for two years (it is his many argument against Obama) and the U.S. economy has done nothing but strengthen over the last two years. We will see how close the U.S. is to a 3% growth rate in the fourth quarter later this week. Now since things are actually improving in the U.S., Mr. Johnson switches his argument that Europe will push the U.S. into recession. I am saying that is not likely.

I appreciate the effort. I appreciate you are at least attempting a rational discussion rather than constant meaningless personal attacks that NQ is know for with any decenting view. Happy to discuss the facts and interpretations of the facts any time. That is generally what discussion boards are for.

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NE.EXP.GNFS.ZS
 
 

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/64599/state-of-disunion-and-delusion/#comment-1560374 Anonymous Thu, 26 Jan 2012 03:28:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=64599#comment-1560374 "The European debt crisis is the single biggest threat to the U.S. recovery and the global recovery," said IHS Global Insight chief economist Nariman Behravesh. "The situation in Europe could spin out of control, as we've certainly seen in the last couple of days. And that could take the U.S. down with it." Nearly two years after the it began,the crisis is already forcing Europe's economy back into recession, according to European Central Bank President Mario Draghi. “What we are observing now is slow growth, heading towards a mild recession by year end,” he told reporters in Frankfurt Thursday, on the first day of his new job. The U.S. economic relationship with the EU is the largest and most complex in the world, generating trade flows of about $3.6 billion a day [2010] and transatlantic investment is directly responsible for roughly 7.1 million jobs [2008 estimate].  This enormous volume of transatlantic trade and investment promotes economic prosperity on both sides of the Atlantic and in the dozens of other countries that trade with the transatlantic partners.  The United States and the EU continue to pursue initiatives to create new opportunities for transatlantic commerce. http://www.ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/europe/european-union “The European debt crisis is the single biggest threat to the U.S.
recovery and the global recovery,” said IHS Global Insight chief
economist Nariman Behravesh. “The situation in Europe could spin out of
control, as we’ve certainly seen in the last couple of days. And that
could take the U.S. down with it.”
Nearly two years after the it
began,the crisis is already forcing Europe’s economy back into
recession, according to European Central Bank President Mario Draghi.
“What
we are observing now is slow growth, heading towards a mild recession
by year end,” he told reporters in Frankfurt Thursday, on the first day
of his new job.

The U.S. economic relationship with the EU is the largest and most
complex in the world, generating trade flows of about $3.6 billion a day
[2010] and transatlantic investment is directly responsible for roughly
7.1 million jobs [2008 estimate].  This enormous volume of
transatlantic trade and investment promotes economic prosperity on both
sides of the Atlantic and in the dozens of other countries that trade
with the transatlantic partners.  The United States and the EU continue
to pursue initiatives to create new opportunities for transatlantic
commerce.

http://www.ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/europe/european-union

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/64599/state-of-disunion-and-delusion/#comment-1560369 Anonymous Thu, 26 Jan 2012 02:42:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=64599#comment-1560369 Most people are in total agreement with your article.   The press has been gagged and shackled during the outbreak of OWS in the US and now is low on the Freedom list, but Congress???????   They were laughing at his terrible jokes, clapping at his supposed achievements and his pompous list of ideas that should be put into practice were greeted with cheers, the mind boggles.    Secretary Clinton looked down in the dumps but she was seen enthusiastically congratulating and greeting him after the speech.   What gives?  I even saw Eric Cantor clapping.   Are they scared that Valerie Jarrett will comb through the film of the event and see them looking like they loved it and remove them from the "Off with his head" list.   That's the only explanation I can come up with...................................It was the ideal opportunity for a process server to come with an Impeachment Document, he would have had to pretend that it  was something else but if this wasn't an "et tu Brute" moment  then what was it................. Jan Brewer is pretty outspoken, all power to her, she should run for President, that would be interesting. Most people are in total agreement with your article.   The press has been gagged and shackled during the outbreak of OWS in the US and now is low on the Freedom list, but Congress???????   They were laughing at his terrible jokes, clapping at his supposed achievements and his pompous list of ideas that should be put into practice were greeted with cheers, the mind boggles.    Secretary Clinton looked down in the dumps but she was seen enthusiastically congratulating and greeting him after the speech.   What gives?  I even saw Eric Cantor clapping.   Are they scared that Valerie Jarrett will comb through the film of the event and see them looking like they loved it and remove them from the “Off with his head” list.   That’s the only explanation I can come up with……………………………..It was the ideal opportunity for a process server to come with an Impeachment Document, he would have had to pretend that it  was something else but if this wasn’t an “et tu Brute” moment  then what was it……………..
Jan Brewer is pretty outspoken, all power to her, she should run for President, that would be interesting.

]]> By: Jrterrier http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/64599/state-of-disunion-and-delusion/#comment-1560344 Jrterrier Wed, 25 Jan 2012 23:27:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=64599#comment-1560344 more on the true newt:   But not Newt Gingrich. He voted with the caucus, but his words should be remembered, for at the height of the bitter struggle with the Democratic leadership Gingrich chose to attack . . . Reagan.   The best examples come from a famous floor statement Gingrich made on March 21, 1986. This was right in the middle of the fight over funding for the Nicaraguan contras; the money had been cut off by Congress in 1985, though Reagan got $100 million for this cause in 1986. Here is Gingrich: “Measured against the scale and momentum of the Soviet empire’s challenge, the Reagan administration has failed, is failing, and without a dramatic change in strategy will continue to fail. . . . President Reagan is clearly failing.” Why? This was due partly to “his administration’s weak policies, which are inadequate and will ultimately fail”; partly to CIA, State, and Defense, which “have no strategies to defeat the empire.” But of course “the burden of this failure frankly must be placed first on President Reagan.” Our efforts against the Communists in the Third World were “pathetically incompetent,” so those anti-Communist members of Congress who questioned the $100 million Reagan sought for the Nicaraguan “contra” rebels “are fundamentally right.” Such was Gingrich’s faith in President Reagan that in 1985, he called Reagan’s meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev “the most dangerous summit for the West since Adolf Hitler met with Neville Chamberlain in 1938 in Munich.”   http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/289159/gingrich-and-reagan-elliott-abrams more on the true newt:
 
But not Newt Gingrich. He voted with the caucus, but his words should be remembered, for at the height of the bitter struggle with the Democratic leadership Gingrich chose to attack . . . Reagan.
 
The best examples come from a famous floor statement Gingrich made on March 21, 1986. This was right in the middle of the fight over funding for the Nicaraguan contras; the money had been cut off by Congress in 1985, though Reagan got $100 million for this cause in 1986. Here is Gingrich: “Measured against the scale and momentum of the Soviet empire’s challenge, the Reagan administration has failed, is failing, and without a dramatic change in strategy will continue to fail. . . . President Reagan is clearly failing.” Why? This was due partly to “his administration’s weak policies, which are inadequate and will ultimately fail”; partly to CIA, State, and Defense, which “have no strategies to defeat the empire.” But of course “the burden of this failure frankly must be placed first on President Reagan.” Our efforts against the Communists in the Third World were “pathetically incompetent,” so those anti-Communist members of Congress who questioned the $100 million Reagan sought for the Nicaraguan “contra” rebels “are fundamentally right.” Such was Gingrich’s faith in President Reagan that in 1985, he called Reagan’s meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev “the most dangerous summit for the West since Adolf Hitler met with Neville Chamberlain in 1938 in Munich.”
 
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/289159/gingrich-and-reagan-elliott-abrams

]]> By: Juliezzz http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/64599/state-of-disunion-and-delusion/#comment-1560343 Juliezzz Wed, 25 Jan 2012 23:24:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=64599#comment-1560343  the military are neglecting the Post traumatic stress these soldiers are coming home with and they continue on into the police force.  It's is just asking for abuse from police and the ability to transform into a police state situation. what a mess.   we have our retreat planned too as we live near a riot prone area.  the military are neglecting the Post traumatic stress these soldiers are coming home with and they continue on into the police force.  It’s is just asking for abuse from police and the ability to transform into a police state situation.

what a mess.   we have our retreat planned too as we live near a riot prone area.

]]> By: Jrterrier http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/64599/state-of-disunion-and-delusion/#comment-1560342 Jrterrier Wed, 25 Jan 2012 23:14:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=64599#comment-1560342 here's more on gingrich from someone who knew him: How long have I been saying it? At least for 15 years, but in private, I have been aware of it longer. Newt Gingrich is conservatism's Bill Clinton, but without the charm. He has acquired wit, but he has all the charm of barbed wire. Newt and Bill are, of course, 1960s-generation narcissists, and they share the same problems: waywardness and deviancy. Newt, like Bill, has a proclivity for girl-hopping. It's not as egregious as Bill's, but then Newt is not as drop-dead beautiful. His public record is already besmeared with tawdry divorces, and there are private encounters with the fair sex that doubtless will come out. If I have heard of some, you can be sure the Democrats have heard of more. ... After Newt's and Bill's disastrous experiences in government, both went on to create empires — Bill in philanthropy and cheap thought, Newt in public policy and cheap thought. As an ex-president, Bill has wrung up an unprecedented $75.6 million since absconding from the White House with White House loot and shameless pardons. I do not know how much Newt has amassed, but he got between $1.6 million to $1.8 million from Freddie Mac, and he lobbied for Medicare Part B while receiving, according to the Washington Examiner's Tim Carney, "Big Bucks Pushing Corporate Welfare." Now, after a lifetime in Washington, he is promoting himself as an outsider. Contending with Newt for the Republican nomination are Ron Paul, Rick Santorum, and Mitt Romney. All three are truer conservatives than Newt. I like them all. But John Bolton, former ambassador to the United Nations, and John Lehman, Ronald Reagan's secretary of the Navy, are for Mitt, and they are solid conservatives. Governor Chris Christie and the economic pundit Larry Kudlow laud Mitt on taxes, on spending, and on attacking crony capitalism. Kudlow calls Romney "Reaganesque." Ann Coulter seems to loathe Newt. That is good enough for me. here's more: http://www.creators.com/opinion/r-emmett-tyrrell.html here’s more on gingrich from someone who knew him:

How long have I been saying it? At least for 15 years, but in private, I have been aware of it longer. Newt Gingrich is conservatism’s Bill Clinton, but without the charm. He has acquired wit, but he has all the charm of barbed wire.

Newt and Bill are, of course, 1960s-generation narcissists, and they share the same problems: waywardness and deviancy. Newt, like Bill, has a proclivity for girl-hopping. It’s not as egregious as Bill’s, but then Newt is not as drop-dead beautiful. His public record is already besmeared with tawdry divorces, and there are private encounters with the fair sex that doubtless will come out. If I have heard of some, you can be sure the Democrats have heard of more.

…

After Newt’s and Bill’s disastrous experiences in government, both went on to create empires — Bill in philanthropy and cheap thought, Newt in public policy and cheap thought. As an ex-president, Bill has wrung up an unprecedented $75.6 million since absconding from the White House with White House loot and shameless pardons. I do not know how much Newt has amassed, but he got between $1.6 million to $1.8 million from Freddie Mac, and he lobbied for Medicare Part B while receiving, according to the Washington Examiner’s Tim Carney, “Big Bucks Pushing Corporate Welfare.” Now, after a lifetime in Washington, he is promoting himself as an outsider.

Contending with Newt for the Republican nomination are Ron Paul, Rick Santorum, and Mitt Romney. All three are truer conservatives than Newt. I like them all. But John Bolton, former ambassador to the United Nations, and John Lehman, Ronald Reagan’s secretary of the Navy, are for Mitt, and they are solid conservatives. Governor Chris Christie and the economic pundit Larry Kudlow laud Mitt on taxes, on spending, and on attacking crony capitalism. Kudlow calls Romney “Reaganesque.” Ann Coulter seems to loathe Newt. That is good enough for me.

here’s more: http://www.creators.com/opinion/r-emmett-tyrrell.html

]]> By: Juliezzz http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/64599/state-of-disunion-and-delusion/#comment-1560341 Juliezzz Wed, 25 Jan 2012 23:12:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=64599#comment-1560341 Rand Paul's Response to Obama's State of the Union http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oGsGspc72k&feature=player_embedded#! Rand Paul’s Response to Obama’s State of the Union

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oGsGspc72k&feature=player_embedded#!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/64599/state-of-disunion-and-delusion/#comment-1560334 Anonymous Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:13:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=64599#comment-1560334 Whatever the real story, the chances of Ventura having access to it are pretty slim.  His television series on conspiracies is so pathetically egotistical and misinformed that I want to find and donate to some charity that can work on curing that disease. Whatever the real story, the chances of Ventura having access to it are pretty slim.  His television series on conspiracies is so pathetically egotistical and misinformed that I want to find and donate to some charity that can work on curing that disease.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/64599/state-of-disunion-and-delusion/#comment-1560327 Anonymous Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:34:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=64599#comment-1560327 LOL LOL

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/64599/state-of-disunion-and-delusion/#comment-1560326 Anonymous Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:33:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=64599#comment-1560326 NO!!!! NO!!!!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/64599/state-of-disunion-and-delusion/#comment-1560324 Anonymous Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:18:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=64599#comment-1560324 lol lol

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/64599/state-of-disunion-and-delusion/#comment-1560323 Anonymous Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:17:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=64599#comment-1560323 more questions?? more questions??

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