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Republican Adolescents + Open Thread

This is a snippet. Below, see the full contract for Newt's $25K/month influence peddling for Freddie Mac.

What is behind this tectonic shift in GOP presidential primary polls from Mitt Romney to Newt Gingrich? Testosterone and impatience.

Republican voters’ fantasies are skipping the primaries and fast-forwarding to the mano a mano battles next fall. Their testosterone-fueled “wet dreams” come with their highly-anticipated fantasies envisioned in the “finger lickin’ good” possibility of debate clashes between mental muscle orator Newt “The History Hunk” Gingrich and Barack “Bazinga” Obama. More and more GOP voters are convinced that, in the debates, Gingrich would demolish Obama (and worry that Romney won’t).

That said, the GOP voters forget that Obama is one cool customer. And they don’t factor in that Obama’s team knows all about Gingrich’s oral prowess, and is already gearing up to prep the practice sessions and Obama. They also forget that Gingrich’s rhetoric will need a hasty overhaul if he makes it to the general, since at present, claims the Wall Street Journal, he’s attacking Romney “primarily from the left and in language indistinguishable from the Obama campaign’s.”

Important: No presidential debate is determinative. If they were, John Kerry would have won in 2004 (given incumbent George W. Bush’s god-awful debate performances), and it’s likely that Hillary Clinton, with her superior debate skills and mastery of every topic the debate moderators threw at her, would have bested Obama in 2008. Thus, it is SHEER FOLLY for Republicans to choose Gingrich because he may win debates with Obama. Far more is needed; what may defeat Obama is the candidate with experiences Obama still hasn’t bothered to learn, despite three years in the presidency, such as leadership and running a business; in those areas Mitt Romney beats both Gingrich and Obama.

Absent from adolescent puppy love is anything sensible and realistic that might interfere with the besotted GOP voters’ nocturnal dreams where sperm dance merrily and victory is assured, … albeit with the long-anticipated CLIMAX, not the result of intercourse but of the fulfillment — finally — of the long-anticipated showdown when Gingrich will destroy Obama through his exceptional mastery of extemporaneous speeches, particularly compared to Obama’s lack of talent, evidenced by his reliance on a teleprompter.

Also missing from the GOP voters’ nocturnal dreams are Gingrich’s liabilities, … including his historian duties lobbying for Freddie Mac, his praise for the unfunded Medicare Part D, and his defense of agricultural subsidies. Unconsidered too, but telling, are many consistent polls that show that Romney fares far better against Barack Obama than does Gingrich (Real Clear Politics averages: Obama 1.9% over Romney; Obama up 11.0% over Gingrich).

A WSJ op-ed by Jason Riley warns that adolescent Republicans, so turned on by Gingrich, had better stop, look, and listen:

Mitt Romney finally got aggressive at Monday night’s Republican presidential debate in a performance that, among other things, called into question Newt Gingrich’s vaunted rhetorical skills.

Mr. Romney, who has sometimes appeared to be uncomfortable with his wealth and how he came by it, forcefully defended his background in private equity. The former Massachusetts governor also challenged Mr. Gingrich’s credentials as a leader and reminded viewers that Mr. Gingrich was the first House speaker in history to be ousted. “The speaker was given an opportunity to be the leader of our party in 1994. And at the end of four years he had to resign in disgrace,” said Mr. Romney.

Because NBC’s Brian Williams refused to become Mr. Gingrich’s latest media foil, the former speaker was left to defend his record in Congress and his lucrative work for Freddie Mac. It wasn’t his finest moment. Mr. Gingrich was hired by the housing giant’s chief lobbyist but insisted, implausibly, that he wasn’t hired to peddle influence. “I offered strategic advice largely based on my knowledge of history, including the history of Washington,” said the former speaker.

“They don’t pay people $25,000 a month for six years as historians,” Mr. Romney responded.

One of the mysteries of this primary campaign is how Mr. Gingrich came to be regarded as an exceptional debater based on an ability to draw standing ovations from partisan audiences by attacking the press and insulting moderators who ask questions that he doesn’t want to answer. Another head-scratcher is why he wins praise as the conservative alternative to Mr. Romney despite criticizing the former governor primarily from the left and in language indistinguishable from the Obama campaign’s.

Mr. Gingrich regularly derides his rival as a “Massachusetts moderate,” but last night it was the former speaker who praised Medicare Part D and defended agriculture subsidies. Score this debate for Mr. Romney. …

Read all: “Romney Regains His Footing,” WSJ, January 24, 2012.

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YOUR TURN!

  • HELENK

    http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/articles/2012/01/25/20120125brewer-obama-exchange-tense-words-immigration.html

    who is the adolescent here. backtrack gets pissy at the airport because he did not like book by governor.

    GO JAN BREWER

  • Anonymous

    Oh, Helen.  That’s a great read.  Thanks for posting it.  I liked this part (note to others: it’s just an addendum so you’ll want to use Helen’s link to read it all):

    It was clear from the moment they greeted one another that this would not be a run-of-the-mill encounter between the president and a local official. At one point, she was pointing her finger at him and at another, they were talking at the same time, seemingly over each other.

    He appeared to walk away from her while they were still talking, and she confirmed that by saying she didn’t finish her sentence.

    When Brewer spoke with your pooler, the AP and an NBC producer for several minutes afterwards, she appeared a bit flustered and taken aback by the conversation. Asked if she was, that’s when Brewer said, “I’ll regroup.”
    Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/articles/2012/01/25/20120125brewer-obama-exchange-tense-words-immigration.html#ixzz1kWEgBT7U

  • Anonymous

    I was watching Neil Cavuto today interviewing Frank Luntz about his poll which tracked both Republican and Democratic voters during Mitch Daniels’ rebuttal speech.  What he thought was most interesting was that the Democrats LIKED what Daniels was saying almost as much as the Republicans did when Daniels was not being partisan and was expressing things in more “moderate” terminology.

    I think that those of us who claim that Gingrich’s combative, partisan, sniping will not work in the GE for the Republican Party are correct.  I despise our current POTUS as much as most everyone else on this site who can’t stand him.  I want him out of office and off my t.v. screen.  But I don’t want to have to go back to then despising the Republican POTUS, as I did GWB (and his Cheney/Rumsfeld puppet masters).  That is what would happen with a Newt presidency, though I don’t think he would have a snowball’s chance in hell of winning,  Instead, I would still be avoiding having to see O’s smirky, full-of-himself expression and listen to that horrid voiced. Debating is NOT blowing off the press or shutting down questions you don’t like.  I, too, would like more and more people to put to rest this stupid meme that Newt is such a great debater.  (In stories submitted about the school’s debate team, my hs journalism students always tried to sneak in the phrase “master debater.”  Perhaps with Newt, the term in their funny, funny, ha, ha sense would be apt for describing him.)

    I am moderate–ex-Dem.  I absolutely hate the state of politics in our country today.  I want to be dealing with specific issues without having to color them in ideological terms.  I want the citizens to “win,” not either of the parties.  That will happen only when members of the parties can work together and do some compromising.

  • Anonymous

    Diane, yours is one of the best comments I’ve read in a while.  Thoughtful.  And you struck many of the key issues.

    Ideologues are ruining our political parties.

    We’ve always had them, of course, but when they’ve managed to seize sufficient power within one or both of the parties, they destroy the ability to conduct business in D.C. (along with corporate/special interest money).

    I’m old enough to remember what Goldwater did to the GOP. around that time, I founded the first Teen-Age Republican group in my state, and spread the word statewide. Within a year, I led its first convention …. gotta go .. neighbor is here … my point is that, even in our young group, the hard-heads tried to take over, and I had to fight tooth and nail to keep the gathering welcome to ALL Republicans, including the moderates.

  • HELENK

    as an ex democrat, this is really the first election that I looked closely  at the republican candidates. Are they the best America can do?  NO. Are they better than backtrack? You better believe it.

    my take on them

    Romney  =  obama lite

    Gingrich  = enough guts to take on backtrack

    Santorum = makes my skin crawl

    Paul  = not for me

    There is not much choice and we have to choose from what we have, like it or not

  • HELENK

    whether or not you liked Perry, he was proven right on Turkey

    http://bigpeace.com/stzu/2012/01/25/perry-vindicated-on-turkey-terrorist-ties/

  • HELENK

    stolen from Hot Air

    It sounds … so unlike him. Darn that Jan Brewer for mischaracterizing
    him this way. Exit prediction for Florida next week: Brewer write-ins
    33, Romney 29, Gingrich 27. Click the image to watch.

  • HELENK

    PS
    if I had my druthers , I would vote for Sarah Palin and after today I would like Jan Brewer for vice

    SARAH – JAN  works for me

    these two women have more guts and integrity than anyone running now

  • http://lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com/ whoframedrudy

    Conservatives have the smartest guy in the country on their side,   Pat Buchanan, but they won’t listen to him.  Buck writes: 

    “Newt Gingrich’s surge to success in South Carolina has surely brought joy to the Obama White House … By two to one, the nation has a negative view of Newt. And as Newt has been a national figure for two decades, to reverse the impression he has left on the country would require an immense volume of positive media, free and bought.  And Newt is getting neither.”

    http://buchanan.org/blog/mitt-vs-newt-the-gloves-come-off-4993

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    I am you… feeling the same.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dolly-Cain/100002303813490 Dolly Cain

    Hillary wiped the floor against Obama during the debates. We know how well that turned out.

  • HELENK
  • Anonymous

    “Their testosterone-fueled “wet dreams” come with their
    highly-anticipated fantasies envisioned in the “finger lickin’ good”
    possibility of debate clashes between mental muscle orator Newt “The
    History Hunk” Gingrich and Barack “Bazinga” Obama.”
    Wow, Bronwyn. You’re starting to write like Larry.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002509315863 Kata Kimbe

    A stunning rebuke! I remember when this guy was doing anything to find dirt on Clinton in the early 90′s… pretty amazed that at least he holds the same criteria for a candidate today. “Back in 1992 I appeared with Chris Matthews on some gasbag’s television show. Was it Donohue? At any rate, I said candidate Clinton had more skeletons in his closet than a body snatcher. It was a prescient line then, and I always got a laugh. I can apply the same line today to Newt, though he has skeletons both inside and outside his closet.”http://www.nysun.com/opinion/william-jefferson-gingrich/87674/

  • PA

    “What is behind this tectonic shift in GOP presidential primary polls from Mitt Romney to Newt Gingrich? Testosterone and impatience.”

    Nice spin Bronwyn, but how about stating the obvious: Republicans just don’t like Mitt Romney.

    I certainly do not sense any great enthusiasm on NQ for him and your case for him is weak.

    The timing could not be worse to pick an out-of-touch Wall Street 1%er as your leader.

    “Among Obama’s missing experiences are leadership and running a business.”

    So you are still going to use the leadership experience thing when Obama will have spent 4 years leading the country? Weak.

    And since when is it a positive to be a “businessman” to be President? We have only had one businessman as President before (GW Bush) and we know how that turned-out.

    Gingrich has got nothing on Obama in the debate area. Being an asshole like Gingrich is not something the country is looking for. 

  • HELENK

    Romney is not my pick, but I have one question.
    Everyone seems to be upset that his business made money. Isn’t a business supposed to make money? Most people do invest to make money, not for their  mental health.

  • Docelder

    But a governor from Texas who has religion has to be portrayed as “stupid”… then again a governor from Alaska who has religion was also portrayed as “stupid”… I see the pattern… and I see why the left feels pee running down their legs when they think about any of these candidates being taken seriously. 

  • wylrae

    Maybe we would better off tohave run the Post Office!

  • wylrae

    Should read:

    Maybe we would be better off to have Romney run the Post Office.

  • PA

    Yes, businesses are suppose to make money. I do not think anyone has a problem with that. That is not the point. The issues with Romney and Bain are two:

    1) Romney himself claims that he was a job creator at Bain, that he in fact created 100,000 jobs at Bain. People are challenging him on this job creation record and whether Bain was actually a job creator or job destroyer, going beyond “creative destruction”.

    2) people are also questioning (most noteably the liberals Gingrich and Perry) exactly how Bain and Romney made their money. Where Bain and Romney are just corporate raiders that pulled hundreds of millions of dollars out of companies and then leave these companies in bankruptcy, as private equity does quite often. There are several high profile examples of Bain and Romney doing precisely that.

    Since it is Romney himself who brings up his wonderful experience at Bain, it is completely fair to question his record and whether America needs a corporate raider or private equity guy as President. Republicans are very fairly questioning this. It is not an attack on capitalism or free entreprise, although not all aspects of capitalism or free enterprise is positive.   

    NQ did and does not seem to have a problem questioning Obama’s background.

  • HELENK

    I have no problem questioning backtrack’s background and BFFs.
    You see while working at Penn Station , a bomb was left overhead where I worked. I could have been collateral damage. So when he has someone like bill ayers as a fund raiser and invites  him to the white house , I have a real problem with backtrack.
    Along with many other problems with him and his bunch, that one will always be a big problem

  • HELENK

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71981.html

    secretary of Transportation’s son held in Egypt.

  • Anonymous

    The IRS publishes detailed tax tables by income level. The latest
    results are for 2009. They show that taxpayers earning an adjusted gross
    income between $100,000 and $200,000 pay an average rate of twelve
    percent. This is below Buffet’s rate; so she must earn more than that.
    Taxpayers earning adjusted gross incomes of $200,000 to $500,000, pay an
    average tax rate of nineteen percent. Therefore Buffet must pay Debbie
    Bosanke a salary above two hundred thousand.

  • Anonymous

    GRIFTERS

    While the president spoke about the economic frustrations of average
    Americans in his State of the Union address Tuesday night, his wife,
    Michelle Obama appeared at the event in a sapphire blue dress from designer Barbara Tfank’s 2012 Resort collection, estimated to cost over $2k.

    The first lady’s press office, however is mum on dress, telling The
    Daily Caller that they will not offer comment “as of right now.”

  • Anonymous

    Good job Obama!!

  • Anonymous

    The top tax bracket for U.S. corporations stands at 35 percent, one of
    the highest rates in the world. So how is it possible that a giant of
    American business, General Electric, paid nothing in federal taxes last year, even as it made billions in profit?

    And should the CEO of GE, Jeffrey Immelt, be advising the president on business?

    For two years, President Obama has been talking about the need for
    corporate tax reform, declaring that the system is too complicated and
    that companies pay too much.

    “Simplify, eliminate loopholes, treat everybody fairly,” Obama said in February.

    For those unaccustomed to the loopholes and shelters of the corporate
    tax code, GE’s success at avoiding taxes is nothing short of
    extraordinary. The company, led by Immelt, earned $14.2 billion in
    profits in 2010, but it paid not a penny in taxes because the bulk of
    those profits, some $9 billion, were offshore. In fact, GE got a $3.2
    billion tax benefit.

  • HELENK
  • Anonymous

    Among our 44 former presidents, more than a handful possessed that
    common drive to start their own enterprise before taking their ambition
    to the nation’s grandest stage. Here are their stories.

    Abraham Lincoln (No. 16, served 1861–1865)

    If Lincoln wasn’t a success of enormous consequence, his noble mug
    wouldn’t be on every $5 bill we pull out of our wallets. But Lincoln
    couldn’t hack it as a small businessman.

    Long before he assumed the weight of the country’s deep divisions,
    Lincoln ran a general store. And not very well. He was 23 years old when
    he and a partner opened their store in New Salem, Ill. Lincoln got out
    from the struggling business fairly quickly, but he did get stuck with
    his partner’s debt of $1,000.

    Warren G. Harding (No. 29, served 1921–1923)

    Dealing with the press has always been a cumbersome task for the president. President Harding had an advantage.

    Harding came from a newspaper family, learning the ins and outs of
    his father’s business beginning when he was 10 years old. He studied the
    newspaper trade in college and, after dabbling in teaching, insurance
    and the law, dove into the business full time. With partners, he cobbled
    together $300 to buy the Marion Daily Star in Ohio. He owned the paper
    outright by the time he was 21.

    Owning a business wore Harding down, but he refueled at a local
    sanitarium. He pursued his business aggressively. In 1923, the year he
    died, Harding sold his paper for $550,000. Not too shabby. In today’s
    dollars, that’s about $7 million, a nice profit.

    Herbert Hoover (No. 31, served 1929¬–1933)

    President Hoover served during the country’s absolute worst economic
    period. It would seem ideal to have a businessman in charge at that
    point, but Hoover’s policies exacerbated the economy’s deterioration.

    Before the economy tanked, Hoover succeeded in the business world. He
    worked as an engineer and invented a new process to extract zinc that
    was lost to the mining process. He started the Zinc Corp. in the early
    part of the 20th century, and it later became part of a larger
    corporation.

    Harry Truman (No. 33, served 1945–1953)

    President Truman’s most lasting impression on history occurred within
    weeks of his taking office after President Franklin D. Roosevelt died.
    Upon taking the helm, he found out about the Manhattan Project. Within
    months, he made the decision to drop two atomic bombs on Japan,
    effectively ending World War II.

    The president had come a long way from being a local haberdasher.
    Hoover remains the only president elected after 1897 who did not earn a
    college degree. Medical issues prevented him from getting into West
    Point, so Truman took some classes at a business college but never
    finished. Then he decided to get an education in hard knocks.

    Truman opened his clothing store in Kansas City, Mo., in 1919. He
    went bankrupt a couple years later, and changed career paths, starting
    with respectable positions in local government that led to greater
    offices.

    Jimmy Carter (No. 39, served 1977–1981)

    In addition to being elected to the highest office in the most
    powerful country in the world, President Carter started the Department
    of Education, won a Nobel Peace Prize and has written nearly two dozen
    books. And yet he’s still remembered as a peanut farmer.

    Carter was serving in the Navy after graduating from the Naval
    Academy when his father died. Carter returned to Georgia to work on the
    family business. Agriculture proved a natural fit for Carter, and he
    grew the business successfully.

    http://www.businessnewsdaily.com/680-presidents-day-entrepreneurs-small-businesses-history.html

  • Patience

    Ditto DianaLC

  • Patience

    Ditto DianaLC

  • Anonymous

    Newt is done……finished  and screwed with this.

    Newt Gingrich bad-mouths Ronald Reagan in 1988

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YOnWzGB7G1g

  • Scottymac54

    Yes.  I am an admirer of Gov. Brewer.

  • HELENK

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/01/25/al-qaeda-in-iraq-claims-obama-pulled-u-s-forces-out-of-country-because-america-is-broke-on-verge-of-collapse/

    al-qaeda in iraq claim obama pulled u s forces out of country because America is broke and on the verge of collapse//

  • Anonymous

    I must sadly concur with your estimation of the “adolescent” Republicans.

    However the Democrats and their love affairs with their candidates are no more adult. I remember cringing as supporters of Hillary Clinton discussed the color of her pantsuits and how she was sending them secret messages through her color choices. Adult? I think not. However that wasn’t the same thing as excusing a man who cheats on two wives. But how many of those Dem women excused the same type of behavior in their beloved “Big Dawg?

    There are far too many things about Newt Gingrich that should make Republicans, and us Independents take pause. The least of them would be his infidelities, although they speak to character. Of which he seems to have none.

    Until voters grow up, inform themselves, and make adult choices we will continue to have people representing us who are far less than we should expect, no, demand in our leaders.

    And quite frankly the but, but, so and so was unfaithful too and he was a great president is another example of adolescent thinking.

  • Anonymous

    Marco Rubio gets off the bench

    Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) stepped into the fight for the Republican primary vote in Florida on Wednesday, lending his star power to help Mitt Romney beat back an attack on his immigration stance.

    Rubio, who has pledged neutrality in the race and is considered the odds-on favorite to be the GOP’s vice presidential nominee, chastised Newt Gingrich’s campaign for airing a Spanish-language radio ad that labeled Romney “the most anti-immigration candidate.”

    “This kind of language is more than just unfortunate. It’s inaccurate, inflammatory and doesn’t belong in this campaign,” Rubio said.

    Gingrich’s campaign quickly withdrew the ad, a testament to the junior senator’s pull with Republicans in the state and across the country.

    link: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/206….omney-president

  • Anonymous

    I agree. If the unimpeachable integrity of the Huntsman name could break ties with him over his “very, very slick and fast talking” ways, imagine how easily Mitt would screw over Americans actually below him. Strip away the ‘executive competence,’ ‘decent family man’ bs – at heart he is a spineless fraud that doesn’t give a crap about America… and that’s putting it nicely.

    The most compelling argument is that Romney would almost certainly be a fairly weak executive living in fear of a right wing revolt and kept in line with a robust Republican majority Congress. His ego doesn’t seem so enormous, by presidential standards, that he would compromise these conservative principles rather than admit a mistake. Of course that isn’t used because it plays into a style of anemic, petulant, desperate that can’t overcome the merits of any substance.  

  • Jrterrier

    great way to misdirect.  “people are questioning” is a way to malign someone while appearing reasonable.  those questions have been answered several times over.  romney himself has addressed the +100,000 job claim; if you count in only Staples (currently employing 90,000); Sports Authority; the Indiana steel company, etc, you have more than 100,000 jobs.  He has been clear that the Staples # is jobs as of today and not as of when Bain first invested.  He says that there were fewer than 10,000 jobs lost. 

    it’s a little bit like saying people are questioning whether Obama was really born in Hawaii because he hasn’t published a certified copy of his birth certificate. 

    same goes for how bain made its money.  several people who know Bain and how venture capital works have made clear that Bain was no corporate vulture or raider. 

    so you don’t fool anyone by the intro “people are questioning.” 

  • Jrterrier

    geez, it’s so nice to see how rationally you analyze romney.  how do you come to your over-the-top conclusions?  

    Huntsman and the Huntsman family have been competing with Romney all his life to be the big dog in Mormon circles and so far haven’t been able to do it.  Romney set out on his own to make his life in business while Huntsman just worked for his father.  So there is a little healthy competition there.   

    where’s the proof that Mitt is not a decent family man?  there is not even a whiff of scandal on that score.

    or that he hasn’t shown executive competence?  he made his money on his own; by the time his parents died (george lived into his 90s), romney had already made his way in the business world and was wealthy in his own right.  the romney inheritance was given to the Mormon church.

    or that he doesn’t give a crap about America?

  • Jrterrier

    i don’t understand the conclusion that Republicans don’t like Romney.   The ones in Iowa and NH “liked” Romney a lot more than they liked Newt.  Newt got around 10% or less in each of those locations. 

    Even in SC, Romney got 28%.  And even in SC, where Newt was tailor made and played a number of “cards” including the anti-liberal-media card (and after all who doesn’t hate the media), 60% of the voters didn’t like Newt. 

  • Jrterrier

    geez, it’s so nice to see how rationally you analyze romney.  how do you come to your over-the-top conclusions?  

    Huntsman and the Huntsman family have been competing with Romney all his life to be the big dog in Mormon circles and so far haven’t been able to do it.  Romney set out on his own to make his life in business while Huntsman just worked for his father.  So there is a little healthy competition there.   

    where’s the proof that Mitt is not a decent family man?  there is not even a whiff of scandal on that score.

    or that he hasn’t shown executive competence?  he made his money on his own; by the time his parents died (george lived into his 90s), romney had already made his way in the business world and was wealthy in his own right.  the romney inheritance was given to the Mormon church.

    or that he doesn’t give a crap about America?

  • Jrterrier

    buchanan is probably one of the savviest political observers and NO one can accuse him of not being a conservative or part of the elite media.   

  • PA

    Romney has had it easy. He has had four years to prepare for his second run. He has been doing nothing in terms of governing so he has had to make zero hard public choices over these difficult economic years. He ran in 2008 so you would think he could easily build on the support he got in 2008. He has not.

    Romney fails to get more than about 25% of support of Republicans. With Ron Paul getting about 15-20% support of Republicans that leaves about 55% as the not-Romney vote. Romney’s favorability ratings are terrible, particularly for someone how has not had to govern through these tough political times, and they are getting worse.

    Romney may pull in a few more independents than Gingrich, but he is losing his own party. I assume the GOP will unite around whoever the GOP nominates, given the hatred for Obama, but Romney clearly zaps the energy out of the Republican Party and will have a tough time getting the base out knocking on doors.

    If the GOP nominates Romney I think the Democrats are going to have a much easier time making this election about Romney and the 1% versus the 99%. Either way Gingrich and Romney are a gift to the Democrats.

  • PA

    I am not sure any of those past Presidents could really be called “businessmen” and certainly as the article points out they were terrible businessmen and all had mediocre records as Presidents. You seem to prove my point that businessmen are not necessarily the best Presidents or why would you want a “businessman” as President?

  • Anonymous

    HA!!!! I am laughing out loud.  It WAS Larry who wrote about voters thinking with their dicks.  Heh.

  • Guest

    Competition between the families had been present mostly in the form of support before the ties were permanently dissolved on account of Romney lies. A flip flopping, failed governor and the very epitome of Wall Street greed the best choice for America ? I don’t think so. 

  • Anonymous

    Jeez, stay classy Obama, walk away when the Governor of the state you are visiting is still talking. Ever hear of “Noblesse Oblige” you POS?

    One note, Governor Brewer told Obama that she respected the “office” of president. That doesn’t mean she respects him. And now she has less reason for respect since he acted like a boor.

  • Anonymous

    You said we have only had one before. So we now know you type before engaging
     your brain.
    Much like your boy Obama.

  • HELENK
  • HELENK

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/01/26/great-news-the-fair-share-administration-owes-over-800000-in-back-taxes/

    you pay taxes, I pay taxes, but in this administration, many say
    we don’t need to pay any stinkin taxes

  • HELENK

    http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/01/26/obamas-2-billion-to-brazil-ends-up-helping-send-oil-to-china/

    2 billion dollars to help Brazil send oil to China.

    thanks a lot backtrack

  • Jrterrier

    This prompted an apocryphal Washington exchange between a perplexed Gingrich and Dole. “Why do people take such an instant dislike to me?” asked a perplexed Gingrich, to whom Dole bluntly explained: “Because it saves them time.”

  • BINKY

    The people recognized that Hillary wiped the floor with him, but corruption/fraud won the day.

  • BINKY

    Not bad pay for a secretary.

  • HELENK

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/26/issa-says-holder-should-apologize-to-mexico-justice-has-blood-on-their-hands/

    Issa tells it like it is!!!!!!
    DOJ has blood on it’s hands over fast and furious

  • Anonymous

    shooting themselves in the foot.

  • HELENK
  • Anonymous

    LOL I thought so,

  • Anonymous

    LOL I thought so,

  • Anonymous

    I am you.Diana

  • Anonymous

    GO JAN

  • Anonymous

    kudos  JAN 

  • PA

    You give a completely lame response.

    Romney did not create those jobs at Staples, Sports Authority or Indiana Steel. He was just an early investor in those companies. He was not the entrpreneur who invented those concepts or managed those businesses or drove growth in the business. I have been an early investor in companies and I would never take credit for their success and certainly not claim I created jobs.

    And if you are going to give him credit for those jobs then you should subtract the number of jobs that went away from the companies he invested in as well. Take the net job number.

    What is wrong with looking at his supposive job record which he himself puts out there for scrutiny?

    It is a false equivalency to say this is the same as questioning where Obama was born, especially when an official birth certificate was given. Obama never campaigned on his birth certificate, but Romney is campaigning on his jobs record.

    I think you need to understand the difference between venture capital and private equity. Two completely different business models and Bain has always been more of a private equity firm. According to the WSJ 20-30% of the companies that Romney invested in went bankrupt and many went bankrupt after Romney took millions of dollars out of those companies. Much of the research shows that private equity companies create very little value of society. The U.S. is not a private equity market, so why would we need a private equity 1%er as President? 

  • PA

    I would hardly count any of those as “businessmen”.

    Maybe Hoover.

  • Anonymous

    You know, Harp, American citizens have to pay American taxes when they work outside the country. I had a big argument with California on disability tax when I worked in Ireland and, of course, I lost.
    You can deduct any tax you paid to a foreign country (Charlie Rangel’s accountant’s error) but you still have to pay the rest to the US who claims your income worldwide.
    How can GE write off so much in foreign countries that its taxes here are zip?
    Wouldn’t work for you and me or any other person. (except if that person is a corporation, I guess).
    Now if a corporation is a person then we don’t have equal protection under the constitution.

  • Anonymous

    You know, Harp, American citizens have to pay American taxes when they work outside the country. I had a big argument with California on disability tax when I worked in Ireland and, of course, I lost.
    You can deduct any tax you paid to a foreign country (Charlie Rangel’s accountant’s error) but you still have to pay the rest to the US who claims your income worldwide.
    How can GE write off so much in foreign countries that its taxes here are zip?
    Wouldn’t work for you and me or any other person. (except if that person is a corporation, I guess).
    Now if a corporation is a person then we don’t have equal protection under the constitution.

  • BINKY

    I find this Ulsterman report with the Wall Street Insider chilling:
    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/01/24/wall-street-insider-california/

  • BINKY

    I find this Ulsterman report with the Wall Street Insider chilling:
    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/01/24/wall-street-insider-california/

  • BINKY

    Fact check:  Obama pushes plans the failed before–
    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20120125/D9SFO48G0.html

  • BINKY

    Fact check:  Obama pushes plans the failed before–
    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20120125/D9SFO48G0.html

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