Voting ABO is a bad idea

Sorry but right now that seems that is what we seem be doing now
Unless by some miracle we get some totally different slate of candidates there will be many people voting “ABO”. 

Most on here seem to be behind whom they are behind not because they Totally believe their guy is the best person to be president of our country.

Most are are behind whomever because its “ABO”.

Just my 2 cents but I think we have a really horrid slate of candidates to choose from in order to defeat Obama.

If the powers that installed Obama in the office, do NOT want Gingrich, then he’s the guy for me.  Otherwise, Romney, but preferably Hillary, who won it the first time.

I disagree to a point.  Seriously, any of these people, including, Gingrich, are better than Obama.  I have absolutely no doubt that Romney, Paul, Gingrich, or Santorum believe in, respect, and truly support America.  None.  This is something few of us can say about Obama.  Aside from this, the various policies of each as president will, just as occurs with Obama, be tempered by Congress.  So, yes, ABO all the way.

I do not trust or like Gingrich. I know he is a corrupt POS who took bribes from the insurance lobby to stop the Clintons health care initiative. I do not like or trust Romney. I have no doubt that the Obamamedia is just drooling for their chance to destroy him if he becomes the nominee. Paul is okay in some areas but realistically has zero chance since he comes across like your crazy uncle everyone knows is just one episode away from being in an asylum…  Doesn’t leave much to choose from does it. So I may have to hold my nose and vote ABO. But then again, it doesn’t really matter does it. Our votes do not and never have counted in a Presidential election. The powers that be are the only ones who truly get to vote through the electoral college.

Reading your voting history shows that you are a flake who can’t make up her mind what she wants, and certainly shows that you don’t research your candidates.
Let’s be honest here:
Gingrich was the guy who impeached Clinton. 
Larry’s buddy.
Unforgivable to all Dems,  even though Clinton lied under oath.

The hate for Newt is a grudge fest that no one will fess up to. 

Especially the folks at No Quarter.

What I don’t understand is why some people claim to be ABO or ABR or ABG etc. yet write multiple post on various blogs against one paticular candidate or another. Do your research and own your candidate. I personally have never let any media outlet, endorsement, political ad or blog post perusade me to vote for or against someone. Who are they trying to convince,me or themselves? I also don’t put any stock in polls but if I did MSNBC would be dead last. In 2008 I was called multiple times by the same polsters during specific time frames and gave different answers every time. How accurate could those polls be considering other people may have been just as annoyed as I was everytime the phone rang.

I would suggest drafting Trump who will make clear he only will stay for one term as thats the longest period he can leave “The Apprentis” without creating too large a apprentis gap. He would be there just to start turning things around. The Mitt-Rich will like him and if you add Herman Cain as VP you get the tea party and I would bet a fair number of blacks and hispanics.

“Carried to its extreme — albeit highly unlikely — is the possibility
that voting ABO may get us a president who is WORSE than Obama.”

Nope, because even in the unlikely event that we did manage to find somebody worse than Obama, the backlash against him by both congress and the voters would bring balance back to the country. Obama is the worst of the worst because he is The Chosen One, the one who cannot be held accountable, who cannot be criticized, who is incapable of making mistakes. We would be better off with a president everyone hated because then people would wake up from their kool aid induced stupor and hold him accountable.

All I know if Obama gets another term we are all …..SOL.

Newt has warts and moles… so does Romney.  This race boils down to masses (Gingrich) vs money (Romney); elite (Romney) vs middle class/poor folks (Gingrich); saving US constitution (Gingrich) vs saving US jobs (Romney); tea party crowd (Gingrich/Palin) vs GOP establishment (Romney)!  PERIOD!    http://www.vivianberryhill.blogspot.com

Tamminator,

Newt screwed over two wives and both had medical conditions.

Some of us have been married quite a few years.  How many, as Bill Clinton did, go on national television and admit what he did and apologize?  Newt hasn’t.  

BTW Botox Nancy wasn’t kidding.  There’s another woman out there and I remember reading the article years ago.  It’s ugly.  I felt for this woman and Newt didn’t marry her. Marry Newt? Ewwww!

Tamminator,

Newt screwed over two wives and both had medical conditions.

Some of us have been married quite a few years.  How many, as Bill Clinton did, go on national television and admit what he did and apologize?  Newt hasn’t.  

BTW Botox Nancy wasn’t kidding.  There’s another woman out there and I remember reading the article years ago.  It’s ugly.  I felt for this woman and Newt didn’t marry her. Marry Newt? Ewwww!

Unfortunately, the Corleones are working for Obama ’12.  (If Newt can hurl out accusations without any evidence, so can I.)  My theory is that the Clintons have dirt on Newt that could put him in prison.  Newt went through a grass war with the Clintons.  He attributed his high negatives to the Clinton attack machine, driven by that “endlessly ruthless” “nasty woman.”  But then suddenly Newt was singing Hillary’s praises:  “Hillary is consistently right on national security.”  “Hillary is one of the few people who knows what to do about healthcare.”  I suspect Hillary put a horse’s head in Newt’s bed.  It’s like the Senator from Nevada in Godfather 2, the Clintons squeeze, Newt sings.  Idk if Axelrod hacked the Clinton file on Newt, or the Clintons are squeezing Newt’s balls on their own.  But I do suspect Newt is acting as an Obama supermole.

I don’t buy the idea that Newt is just neurotically vindictive against Romney, precisely because Newt is so used to political gangfights.  It would be like Eli Manning holding a grudge against a linebacker for  tackling him.  If that’s his nature, he’d never say anything good about Hillary.  It is possible, as Palin suggests, that Newt is serving as a sparring partner to toughen up Romney.  But a sparring partner wouldn’t go as far as poisoning Romney’s Gatorade.  Pat Buchanan — Nixon’s hatchetman — says he’s never seen a primary get this personally vicious so early.

Very well aid Vivian…

It’s not wrong to intend to VOTE “ABO”, if that’s what you really believe, and you are willing to support anyone, regardless of likely outcome.

After all, there are those who believe fervently that Barky IS the problem.

What’s crazy is to DECLARE yourself “ABO” publicly, because you’re not spreading a message that is in need of your public endorsement, to survive.

And, the truth is, campaigning politicians DO listen to, and read, the opinions of their constituents.

When you DECLARE yourself an “ABO”, you’re basically stifling your own limited political voice before the election.  They know, by your own admission, that they can’t count on you for support and will not go to you to refine their positions, if they know you treat the voting booth as a “Lotto” machine in a convenience store, leaving the machine to “Quik-Pick-It”.

Bronwyn, i’m with you 200%. 

you made me laugh out loud.  very good. 

what’s funny is that “elite” romney probably has never spent $500,000 at tiffany’s like the newter has.  it’s one of the reasons mitt is rich.  

oh, and the TN tea party has just endorsed Mitt. 

oh, my gawd.  trump and cain.  are you high?

and he screwed a lot of other staffers too. and he is hateful.

the powers that installed obama are the media.  and they are the same ones pushing newt and dumping on mitt because (1) they want to prolong the primaries (what else would they do if they didn’t have the primaries to cover; even they are tired of puff pieces on Obama); (2) they want to bloody mitt for the race against their O; and (3) they want O to win in the end.  

i’m behind mitt because i like him and think he would make a terrific president.  everything i’ve seen and read tells me he is very smart.  we actually know that he graduated with honors with a dual degree from Harvard Law and an MBA from Harvard Business School.  he is an honorable man who has a lovely family and didn’t leave his wife when she got sick 2x (cancer and MS).  he worked outside of government for a large part of his life.  he was smart and savvy enough to get rich while working (not by selling influence like Newt and Santorum).  he is not so doctrinaire that he cannot work to get things done.  he has been described as being data-driven — in other words when faced with a problem, he looks at the facts and then devises a solution.  his dad was a self-made man so he wasn’t raised as a prissy-boy (like W).  he doesn’t give off an air of entitlement; he works his tail off.

and to seal it, he’s better looking than any of the others running.

 But Mitt’s 49%? Well, I believe that’s Toxic Newt’s doing too. ————————-
Mitt is not Mr. Clean.  Fidelity to one’s spouse is not the only area that matters.  I’ve posted two articles under several previous articles laying out some tibits that are little known about Mitt, so I won’t post them again.  In addition to his flip-flopping to say what ever the crowd wants to hear over his political life, he started the negativity toward Newt when he became afraid during the pre-Iowa caucus (well, his PAC did–they always have someone to do the dirty work).  So, let’s not blame it on Newt.  Listen to Mitt closely and hear Saul Alinsky behind his campaign rhetoric.

Thanks Mitt and Newt: A Dozen Tax Tips for the Rest of Us
1. Tax-free Interest
2. Points on a Second Home
3. Donate Appreciated Assets to Charity
4. Write off Alimony Payments
5. Make the Most of Worthless Stock
6. Don’t Forget Your Carryover Losses
7. Beware the Passive Loss Rule
8. Pay the Nanny Tax
9. Avoid the Underpayment Penalty
10. Don’t Overwhithhold
11. Reclaim Excess Social Security Tax
12. Write off Medical Insurance Premiums

http://cornhusker4palin.newsvine.com/_news/2012/01/28/10255996-thanks-mitt-and-newt-a-dozen-tax-tips-for-the-rest-of-us

Newt wasn’t the President.  I’ve heard him say that he’s made mistakes in his personal life that he’s sorry for.  His apology is to his children and his wives.  I don’t need him apologizing to me.  He’s admitted publicly his poor past.  

So, there’s another woman out there.  What’s that got to do with the issues of the day?

Why in the hell does it matter where Newt spends his money?  Here we go with the class envy.  I don’t care that Newt spent money at Tiffany’s.  It was good for struggling jewelers, I’m sure.  They deserve to make a living too.

The part about support America with all 3 I do agree on…But the two at the top right now is looking scary…
Just my 2 cents…

Vivian, I’ll give you the pacifist treatment if you go read all of Larry Johnson’s posts over at least the past two weeks in which Larry explains why Newt is so toxic.

It appears that you don’t know that Romney attained his wealth on his own, not from his rich father. In fact, when his father died, Mitt Romney donated his ENTIRE INHERITANCE to BYU’s respected PUblic Management.  (See his Wikipedia bio.)

  Vivian, Romney FOUNDED Bain, he marketed the company to prospective clients — very difficult to do, especially when one is starting a new private equity company with ZERO track record.  Then Romney administered his clients’ investments, attracted more clients — which made his clients and himself rich.

Then there is what Mitt Romney’s rescue of the 2002 Winter Olympics which was badly in debt, racked with scandal and charges of bribery, even raising the possibility that the games would have to be moved. 

Jack Welch was on CNN tonight. He backs Romney. Why? In 2000+, Jack Welch, who headed NBC’s parent company, G.E., was deeply worried about NBC Sports’ huge investment, and then witnessed Mitt Romney transform the situation, saving the games and NBC’s investment.

Read what Mitt did here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney#2002_Winter_Olympics

– SNIPPETS –
Romney revamped the organization’s leadership and policies, reduced budgets, and boosted fund raising. He soothed worried corporate sponsors and recruited many new ones. He admitted past problems, listened to local critics, and rallied Utah’s citizenry with a sense of optimism. Romney worked to ensure the safety of the Games following the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks by ignoring those who suggested the games be called off and coordinating a $300 million security budget.
… Romney and his wife contributed $1 million to the Olympics, and he donated to charity the $1.4 million in salary and severance payments he received for his three years as president and CEO. …

Interesting that Soros is really talking up Romney…Strange that many who are for Romney detested the idea that Soros was behind Obama and now Soros is talking up Romney…
Strange world we live in…Maybe the arrest of Soro will happen and Soros won’t be talking up either one.

i just personally think that spending that much $ on jewelry or shoes or clothes is bizarre, especially for your third wife. 

Actually, my voting record reflects the amount of time I had to research the candidates.  There were some tough years in there … Try being a single mother without child support and with a home business that took me 14-16 hours a day in order to keep a roof over our heads and food on the table. 

That said, I am rather proud of my choices over the years. Neither party ever owned me and, even when my time was limited, i did my very best.

Newt’s poisonous attitude appears to attract people as filled with hate and bitterness as he.

Larry’s buddy?  Oh god, you are as full of it as your idol.

Nothing binky unless you’re running on character, honesty,  and truthfulness.  

Bill Clinton ran on the economy.  He didn’t publicly moralize while doing the same and worse as the person he was trashing.  That’s what I liked about the Big Dog.  What you did in your bedroom was between  you and your spouse or life partner.  Gingrich was very vocal about personal relationships and how we needed DOMA, and how gays would wreck the family.   I remember all of that. Gingrich supported the Evangelical point of of view.  He supported it until it became less popular like, I don’t know, today. 

Remember it was the Republican party that ditched Newt as Speaker.  True the Democrats went along but Newt’s own party got rid of him.

As for that other woman:  Let’s say hypothetically this woman really needed her job.  Let’s say she felt she had no choice other than sleeping with the boss.  What kind of person does that?  Hypothetically of course.

“Larry’s buddy? Oh god, you are as full of it as your idol…”

Yup. Pathetic.

They (the media) want to bloody Mitt?  Get real.  It’s Newt they want to take down so Obama can take Mitt down.  You must be watching a different media than I watch.

Have you by any chance read this?  http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/article/what-really-happened-gingrich-ethics-case/336051

Personally I think ABO’s are a bit lazy….yeah I said it…..so what.    I think if you say ABO then you can sit back and ignore the primaries and you don’t really have to research anyone.  You job is simple.  Vote for the joker who’s name is not Obama.  Easy.

Problem is, what if you are just replacing one joker  puppet with another joker puppet.  isn’t that essentially what obots did when they replaced Bush with Obama?  What if we get another Bush?  What if they are worse? 

NOW is the time to ferret out the losers.  NOW is when we have a chance to pick the best man running.   To say anyone but Obama now just gives up on the vetting process.

Anyone who really researches the 4 we have left and looks at their record will see glaring warning signs of flip floppers, liars, and insiders with nefarious connections that are enough to scare the bajeebies out of you.

With the exception of squeaky clean Ron Paul that is.    He’s the only one you would find you could trust to do what he says.

But you don’t have to worry about me.  I’m a “Ron Paul or No One at All” voter.  And…Im not alone.

Personally I think ABO’s are a bit lazy….yeah I said it…..so what.    I think if you say ABO then you can sit back and ignore the primaries and you don’t really have to research anyone.  You job is simple.  Vote for the joker who’s name is not Obama.  Easy.

Problem is, what if you are just replacing one joker  puppet with another joker puppet.  isn’t that essentially what obots did when they replaced Bush with Obama?  What if we get another Bush?  What if they are worse? 

NOW is the time to ferret out the losers.  NOW is when we have a chance to pick the best man running.   To say anyone but Obama now just gives up on the vetting process.

Anyone who really researches the 4 we have left and looks at their record will see glaring warning signs of flip floppers, liars, and insiders with nefarious connections that are enough to scare the bajeebies out of you.

With the exception of squeaky clean Ron Paul that is.    He’s the only one you would find you could trust to do what he says.

But you don’t have to worry about me.  I’m a “Ron Paul or No One at All” voter.  And…Im not alone.

Such was my contempt, and even fear of a second Obama term that I had thought I could vote ABO. I thought any of the GOP candidate better than him.

 At that point in time it didn’t occur to me, even remotely, that anyone would seriously consider Newt Gingrich for president. It didn’t occur to me that anyone would consider him fit to run the cash register at a local 7-11 let alone the country.

I want desperately to see Obama defeated. I don’t want to see him removed in order to put in another narcissistic egomaniac.

I find it amazing that so many who are appalled at the Obamas’ lack of class as representatives of our country would even consider, for a moment, putting Newt and Callista in the White House.

Once people stop getting “crushes” on candidates and start looking for facts perhaps we would get better candidates. I support Mitt Romney, but would vote for Ron Paul or even Rick Santorum, despite my loathing for social conservatives. I don’t believe Paul or Santorum could win and I wonder if Romney can either now that he has been bloodied so badly by the ultra conservatives in his own party. But I believe he has the best chance.

Me too! And I appreciate your honesty about once having gotten “crushes” on candidates. That shows an honest self-awareness many lack. Good for you!

Funny the hate spewed by those accusing others of hate.

Well I’m in the ABO camp. But I’ll be voting for the repub candidate who I think has the best chance of kicking out Soetero.
And that person I think is Romney. I’m a working class joe, a bitter clinging middle class american that the dems and Barry look down upon and make fun off.  I do not feel any envy towards Romney, good on him to earn all that money. Did he break any laws? No. So, what millionaires like deranged Pelosi, who has never worked a damn day in her life, Reid as well, and yet both are multimillionaires, and they want to shame Romney for earning his money?

Looks like dems have gone full classwarfare and socialist, trying to shame people who are successful, so that middle class bitter clingers like me  will feel envy towards people like Romney. Hey dems, this is still America, no matter how much you try to “transform” it.

As for Newt, I don’t like the man, havven’t since the 90′s, he looks like he could implode at anytime, no organization, didn’t get on the ballot on his own state. And I don’t like the man.  Will I vote for him, yes, ABO, I cannot stand Barry more than I cannot stand Newt. So ABO.
But there are many moderates will will not vote for Newt.

The repubs really are the stupid party if they nominated Newt. I used to think Palin was smart, but lately, the way she’s been acting, she seems pretty stupid to me endorsing Newt.

I like Romney, and Newt seems determined to tear down Romney, which is why his negatives are going up. As for Newt, his negatives have always been high, don’t like the man, don’t care for him.

I hope repubs come to their senses and realize this will be a close election, and someone like newt cannot win. I’ll vote for Newt if he’s the nominee, but I will not lift a finger to campaign for him. On the other hand, I’ve been to a rally for Romney, I like the man, he;s a bit crony, I like him, so him I will campaign for.

And compared to a fool currently in the WH who loves dissing america and americans, any repub nominee will be better, but the most electability has to be selected, lets hope the repubs don’t have a temper tantrum if newt’s not the nominee. Defeating Soetero is the number 1 priority this November.

I agree that any of our candidates would be less harmful to this nation than Obama.  I believe none of them will take us on the downward spiral away from democracy Obama is bent upon accomplishing.
I find it tiresome in the extreme that we are being told whom to vote for and whom not to vote for, with fear ruling the day.  It is inconveivable to me that anyone here cannot see that ignoring ABO and allowing Obama a second term because one doesn’t like the ultimate Republican candidate is utter folly.  Personal opinions do not make for truth.
It’s beginning to feel like Daily Kos here and that’s not pleasant!

Little in life stands in isolation.  Intelligent people understand that one can have negatives and positives and while deploring one can still praise the other.  Is not Newt entitled to the same as regards his opinions of Hillary?  We tend to paint these candidates in black and white when reality suggests many shades of gray, some being grayer than others, to be sure.
Has Newt done nothing good in his life?  Has Romney done nothing bad in his life?  Treating them as soap opera characters reduces both of them to less than they are and is a disservice to them.  There ends my sermon of the day!

Your comment about Newt’s poisonous attitude appearing to attract people as filled with hate and bitterness as he is shamelessly demeaning of those who support him.  The brush you use to paint a whole group of people you don’t know is, at best, ignorant and somewhat meanspirited.
I suspect that any number of good and decent people will vote for him and I doubt that all of them arefilled with hate and bitterness.

Your comment about Newt’s poisonous attitude appearing to attract people as filled with hate and bitterness as he is shamelessly demeaning of those who support him.  The brush you use to paint a whole group of people you don’t know is, at best, ignorant and somewhat meanspirited.
I suspect that any number of good and decent people will vote for him and I doubt that all of them arefilled with hate and bitterness.

Face it, if character and honesty were the main criteria for public service, Congress and the White House would be vacant properties.  It wasn’t in Clinton’s bedroom where his ‘indiscretions’ took place.  It was in the Oval office!  How’s that for disrespecting the office of the Presidency?  And now you’re trying to say his public apology was some sort of noble gesture?  It was an attempt to face save and little more.

“And…Im not alone…”

No, you are not.

Look both of these guys are losers… Noot represents the worse in politics and Romney is a lousy politician, was a lousy governor and will make a lousy president.

You all need to take a really hard look at these two. Stop listening and spinning the political bull. My fear for this country with either of these two in office is no less than keeping Obama in office.

Looks like Big Sis and the jackasses at CBP and DHS are at it again. Want to bet that neither Noot nor Romney would say squat about this crap?

‘I’m going to destroy America and dig up Marilyn Monroe’: British pair arrested in U.S. on terror charges over Twitter jokes
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2093796/British-tourists-arrested-America-terror-charges-Twitter-jokes.html#ixzz1l2ggS5x0

This is total bullshit…..

My mantra is ‘anybody but Obama or Romney’.

Bronwyn, Romney FOUNDED Bain,which presided over a company that committed the largest Medicare fraud to that date in the history of MA.  Then Bain, just in the nick of time, stuffed the profit in their pockets and sold the soon to be fined (119 million dollars) company.  And when the company had to file for bankruptcy Bain/Romney, to my knowledge, never looked back or offered to help pay the fine from the profits they had taken so that the company could stay afloat and the employee, who had no part of the fraud, could keep their jobs. 

Thank you for that link.

“Your comment about Newt’s poisonous attitude appearing to attract people as filled with hate and bitterness as he is shamelessly demeaning of those who support him…”

No, it’s not.  Because, it’s one thing to excuse someone’s extremely negative personality characteristics, if they are well regarded from a professional standpoint, and they have a demonstrated record of competence.

That’s not Newt.  Horror stories abound, regarding his antics in Congress, which is quite a legacy of failure, when you consider how tight-lipped our congress critters can be , when it comes to their own periods of service.

There has been a serious paradigm shift in the last twenty-four hours, regarding Newt’s chances at electability.

I support Dr. Paul and have no horse in the game, so accusing me of being in the tank for one or the other is pointless, so let’s just call this race as it is, “Romney”, versus “anti-Romney”, and dispense with the pretense of Gingrich being such a fine, qualified statesman,  because he’s not.

This is about an unhinged extremist right-wing agenda, being forced on the American public, stacking the courts and rolling back more of the rights we were born with, and a larger-than-expected number of voters are saying “NO” to it.

This is about the last throes of the “Tea Party” movement, cut off from its funding and the GOP’s institutional framework, by the mainstream establishment, that no longer has any use for you.

This is about BLAMING Romney, for ALL the failed “Tea Party” candidates and the massive no confidence vote your refusal to address this has spawned.

You poo-poohed the moderates and the indies because they were ideologically impure, but guess what?  They far outnumber
the populists and, remembering the last couple of times they were shunted aside, are increasingly willing to defiantly sidestep the same “party unity” YOU did, and make quality decisions based on their own families’ needs and those of the country.

You can’t just blame Bronwyn for reporting on the trend.

Blame YOURSELF, in true free-market fashion, for failing to deliver a product that any more than a tiny, well-financed movement, was interested in adopting. 

“But, Pop, WHY are we hated, all over the world?”

Bronwyn… Romney did not make it on his own… He had a ton of help from other wealthy Mormons… Yeah he did not go to AMC but lets stop kidding ourselves. He was financially backed… As far as Romney helping securing the Olympics from terrorists. I can tell you a few things about that so-called security…

“But Mitt’s 49%? Well, I believe that’s Toxic Newt’s doing too. ”

Nice spin Bronwyn.

How about that Romney is just not that popular.

How do you explain that Romney’s numbers were in the tank before anyone including Newt attacked him?

Romney only got 25% of the vote in Iowa, the same that he got in 2008. After spending 4-6 years campaigning for President and that is all he could do.

Don’t forget Romney lost to McCain in 2008 and really has not been doing that much better.

“I pray that Mitt can lower those unfavorabilities, and soon. But that’ll require silencing Gingrich.”

You are dreaming. It has nothing to do with Gingrich. The Democrats have not even started their $1 bn campaign against Romney. If Romney cannot take the heat from his own party, then good luck in the general.

For the most part Romney is a terrible candidate. He is doing himself in. It has nothing to do with the media or Gingrich or Perry or whatever.

Nominate an out-of-touch Wall Street 1%er who pays no taxes. Good luck with that.

The reality is the Gingrich represents many more GOP voters than Romney. If the non-Romney vote was not being split Romney would probably lose.

“What’s going on isn’t some establishment plot to nominate Mitt.”

It is exactly a closing of GOP establishment ranks behind Romney. How do you figure it is not? Romney is about as most an Establishment GOP candidate as you can find. The big money corporatists in the GOP are putting up the dollars to squash any rebellion in the ranks. It just proves that the GOP Establishment could not give a crap about the Tea Party. It is all about more tax breaks for the rich, give all the advantages to corporations and screw the rest of you.

More importantly, it validates the very real concerns of those who quietly digested the news of Newt’s stated intent to build a base on the moon in two years, while we are hemorrhaging jobs, working people are being foreclosed on, and state and county budgets are nearing collapse.

How can his supporters denounce Barky and Meechelle for their extravagance, yet excuse Newt for his own drunken-sailor profligacy?

Yes.

“It is inconveivable to me that anyone here cannot see that ignoring ABO and allowing Obama a second term because one doesn’t like the ultimate Republican candidate is utter folly…”

As I explained to another control freak who attempted to dictate my actions and INSISTED on imposing his litmus test by demanding that I “support the eventual nominee…”

I own my vote.

Make your case for your candidate du jour, or the latest outrage, if you like.

But I determine my political choices and strategies.

If I didn’t allow “Obots” from my own political party to take my one lousy vote from me, I’ll be damned if any one from the opposition even has a right to try.
 

Newt is a turd.

Now he attacks Romney as insensitive to religions because he restructured the Medicare under the Massachussetts Healthcare reform and it didn’t benefit Jewish and Catholic hospitals.

Clue here the churchs should support their own hospitals not suck off the taxpayers.

Newt has had his ego hurt and he doesn’t care what he does to the country as long as he hurts Romney. This is a collossal temper
tantrum like my 5 yearold niece throwns–difference is Newt is supposed to be a grown man.

Romney is not without flaws or mistakes in judgement and execution. Welcome to the human race–difference is ROmney tries to learn from them.  Romneycare was the desire of the Mass. voters he implemented what they had asked for and it didn’t work great. He notes that.

Obama and the DEMS rode roughshode over the MAJORITY of the population to cram a crappy piece of legislation down our throats. And I for one am gagging on it.  I no loger have health care coverage thanks to Obama, Pelosi, and Reed.

We have to keep our eye on the prize restoration of the Constitution–believe it or not kids, Romney believes this. It is part of his faith.
Mormons believe strongly in personal responsibility and the need for free will.

Exactly… The update to this story appears to be that CBP & DHS were alerted to the pair by some nervous nellie dweeb. This just makes it worse. So some jackass misinterprets the pair, reports them, then CBP/DHS does it own stupidity.

Good gosh, what the hell are we turning into? So where is Noot and Romney on this type of issue? You want to know? Noot wants his own personal army and Romney? Take a guess? He would play it safe and say, its better to be safe than sorry.

Both of these two are no better than Obama.

Exactly… The update to this story appears to be that CBP & DHS were alerted to the pair by some nervous nellie dweeb. This just makes it worse. So some jackass misinterprets the pair, reports them, then CBP/DHS does it own stupidity.

Good gosh, what the hell are we turning into? So where is Noot and Romney on this type of issue? You want to know? Noot wants his own personal army and Romney? Take a guess? He would play it safe and say, its better to be safe than sorry.

Both of these two are no better than Obama.

he may not have had any of daddy’s money to get his start, but he had daddy’s name.  a name opens doors, paves the way.  how many of those investors whom he attracted to his start-up venture would have invested had Romney had my last name, for instance?   I don’t seriously think there is anything wrong with trading on your name, but to say that Romney got where he is today with no help from anyone, well, that’s a bit of a stretch in my mind.   Was he a successful business man?  Sure seems that way.   But I still don’t know that he has my vote come election time.   If he does get it, I will be holding my nose. 

Romney is not that clean.  He does a lot of lying and flips and flops.

Bill Bain founded Bain & Company.. In 1983 Bill Bain offered Romney the chance to head a new venture.  Bain Capital was founded in 1984 by Romney T Coleman Andrews III and Eric Kriss.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bain_Capital 

“Obama and the DEMS rode roughshode over the MAJORITY of the population to cram a crappy piece of legislation down our throats.”

How do you figure? The GOP blocked most and required 60 votes in the Senate for everything that passed. Do you believe in democracy or what? So you think the 2008 election did not mean anything?

” I no loger have health care coverage thanks to Obama, Pelosi, and Reed.”

How do you figure it is Obama’s fault you do not have health insurance? When the healthcare bills kick in in 2014 you will have a much easier chance at get healthcare insurance. How is that a bad thing?

Do you or did you have COBRA? If so you can thank Obama because that was in the stimulus bill.

No one is without flaws. But the Newt has more than his share. As much as his supporters attacked his second wife when she came forward to tell of his behavior, the fact is that it was he who was cheating  his second wife. Seems to show a pattern of behavior that is pretty slimy. It also shows a lack of character.

I know there are many here who don’t give a rat’s ass if he was a chronic adulterer. I do. Because to me that shows what kind of a man he is. And it ain’t pretty.

He’s also flailing around Florida calling Mitt Romney a liar in every other sentence while lying constantly himself. But that’s okay cause he’s the better candidate. He’s smarter, if you don’t believe it ask him, and he’s a great little debater. Oops, not always.

I don’t expect perfection in a candidate. Never have, never will. I do expect a modicum of character and class. Newt, IMO, has neither. Thus I have changed from ABO, to ABO and Newt.

Oh dear, does that make me a flip-flopper, cause human beings aren’t allow to ever change their minds in this country these days. The media has decreed it so and many people have swallowed the media talking point hook, line and sinker.

“But, Pop, WHY are we hated, all over the world?”

The view and attitudes of America by the rest of the world has done nothing but improve since Obama took office.

“Views of US Continue to Improve in 2011 BBC Country Rating Poll”

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/views_on_countriesregions_bt/680.php

“World warming to US under Obama, BBC poll suggests”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8626041.stm

Obama is the same as Newt. That is funny. How do you figure?

Why castigate third wives?  Castigate Callista if you like, but don’t lump all third wives together.
You are not the arbiter of how much people are willing to spend on anything.  If they can afford it, who is anyone else to judge?

Whether Newt is off the wall about his space intentions or not, I’m not going to be so quick to jump on it as a lamebrained idea.
What did people say about John Kennedy when he proposed putting a man on the moon?  And no, I’m not equating Newt with Kennedy, except in this regard.

it’s my own value system.  and you are correct, it’s not the fact that she is the third wife, it’s how she got there — screwing Newt in the House and in Newt’s home (and that of wife #2) while the House was impeaching a president and airing his sexual exploits. 

You’re pleading the case for struggling jewelers??

BINKY, you are willingly following a blueprint for your own enslavement.

Pardon me, if I don’t allow you to take the food out of my own childrens’ mouth, to finance it.

You might not, but I will…

Firstly, because we can’t afford it.

Secondly, because the moon is irrelevant anyway, for our purposes.

Thirdly, because it was Newt who suggested it, and no good can come of evil.

yesterday i cited a study by George Mason University ( a conservative school in VA) that analyzed the number of negative stories on Mitt in comparison to others.  And Mitt won that contest — the media is dumping on him big time.  That held true even for FOX and of course for CNN and MSNBC

Are you responding to me?  Where have I said anything that poo-poos the moderates and indies because they were idealogically impure?  As to those groups  whose increasing defiance in sidestepping ”the same party unity YOU did”…
where did I suggest that? 
I conclude that you must be addressing this elsewhere.

Elizabeth, the man is a whoremonger, and probably a drunken one, judging by appearances.

Would you have supported Ted Kennedy, under the same circumstances?

So Romney spends his money on the houses, cars, and help…
Does that really make him better..
His second home is estimated at over 20 million and the extention planned is just as much.

And Romney has no extravagances…better look closer

oh, look at this, mitt is not such a flip-flopper on abortion.  a statement from 2005, when he vetoed a bill that would have provided contraceptives and would terminate life after conception.

Why I vetoed contraception bill

By Mitt Romney | July 26,
2005
. . .

Signing such a measure into law would violate the promise I made to the citizens
of Massachusetts when I ran for governor. I pledged that I would not change our
abortion laws either to restrict abortion or to facilitate it. What’s more, this
particular bill does not require parental consent even for young teenagers. It
disregards not only the seriousness of abortion but the importance of parental
involvement and so would weaken a protection I am committed to uphold.
. . .

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/07/26/why_i_vetoed_contraception_bill/

Keno that is one thing I have noticed about some of the Romney supporters…
Newt does have a way of saying things which many have been putting down as anger…Yet look at how they defend Romney and call Newt names.

“World Public Opinion”….

Is this a globalist think tank?

“BBC poll suggests…”

In my opinion, the United Kingdom is a stealth enemy of the US.

I do read publications from there, but discount any accounts of public opinion amongst the British subjects, because such “information” is frequently manipulated by that empire’s disinformation control grid, to yield results to objectives known, but unseen.

Sorry.

Your ability of discernment is compromised.

I predict Mitt will win Florida today.

the MSM is doing their best to massacre him.  Guess they got their marching orders from the White House….

i’m watching the newt right now claiming that mitt is a threat to religion because of romneycare.  mitt seems to forget that he praised romneycare when it was passed. 

oops. is this a flip flop or a lie?

we grow we learn we change.that is what life is all about.

well said Liz.

Good morning Brownie!  Thank you for sharing this info on Romney.  Having grown up ALL of my life thru H.S. in Michigan, I KNOW of the Romney clan.  His daddy was my Governor during my youth.  Mitt, and his siblings were ALWAYS in the news.  I respect Mitt and his legacy. Don’t care too much for his Morman religion for its views on Blks… but hey, if he is the GOP nominee, I will go back home to MI and work hard for him.  But TODAY… Newt is my personal friend.  I KNOW him, warts & all and I think he is capable of taking O head on in the fall. Go  read my blog, you’ll understand: http://www.vivianberryhill.blogspot.com  

true dat.

Jrterrier… I saw that the TN tea party endorsed Mitt.  But it is doubtful that Mitt can take the South.  If Newt and Mitt could kiss and make up… it would be great to have a Gingrich/Romney  or Romney/Gingrich ticket going into the Fall.  The GOP would have the best of both worlds: a bizniz man and a ballsy visionary running this nation!  Now.That’s.What.I’m.Talkin’.Bout!

LOL.

i meant that newt seems to forget that he praised romneycare when it was first passed.

newt is a martian.  it appears that it’s ok to just assert things without any evidence, so here goes. 

anyone but obama or newt

New WP/ABC Poll:”Overall, do you have a favorable or unfavorable impression of Romney’s work buying and restructuring companies before he went into politics? “All: 35 favorable, 40 unfavorable (net -5)
Dem: 18 favorable, 60 unfavorable (net -42)
Ind: 36 favorable, 37 unfavorable (net -1)
Rep: 60 favorable, 22 unfavorable (net +38)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postabcpoll_012912.htmlPeople DO NOT like what Romney did at Bain.And Romney is going to try and convince Americans that he was a job creator at Bain & Company. It looks like that “100,000″ jobs claim is working against Romney. He was also 47 out of 50 Governors in job creating as a Governor in MA. His only bullshit strength is that as a “businessman” (really just Investor) he will be a good job creator is falling apart. Most do not believes it. It is a losing argument as the WSJ says here:http://www.marketwatch.com/story/mitt-romney-tries-to-play-the-jobs-card-2010-02-23?pagenumber=1Romney and the GOP’s and Larry Johnson’s only argument is the economy has not recovered under Obama. That argument is becoming weaker everyday. Romney and the GOP claim Romney is a big job creator. That argument is also continuing to fall apart.

New WP/ABC Poll:

“Overall, do you have a favorable or unfavorable impression of Romney’s work buying and restructuring companies before he went into politics? ”

All: 35 favorable, 40 unfavorable (net -5)Dem: 18 favorable, 60 unfavorable (net -42)Ind: 36 favorable, 37 unfavorable (net -1)Rep: 60 favorable, 22 unfavorable (net +38)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postabcpoll_012912.html

Most Americans DO NOT like what Romney did at Bain. And Romney is going to try and convince Americans that he was a job creator at Bain & Company. It looks like that “100,000″ jobs claim is working against Romney.

He was also 47 out of 50 Governors in job creating as a Governor in MA.

His only bullshit strength is that as a “businessman” (really just an Investor) he will be a good job creator is falling apart. Most do not believes it.

It is a losing argument as the WSJ says here:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/mitt-romney-tries-to-play-the-jobs-card-2010-02-23?pagenumber=1

Romney’s, the GOP’s and Larry Johnson’s only argument is the economy has not recovered under Obama. That argument is becoming weaker everyday. (Larry did you see the jobs number out of Germany today. The best jobs numbers since unification.)

Romney and the GOP claim Romney is a big job creator. That argument is also continuing to fall apart.

When Mitt nixed a Moon base he showed me his true colors.
He would simply be International Banker asset Soros’s second administration.

Say what you will about Romney–he is a hard worker.
Say what you will about Mormons–they too as a group are hard workers.
Utah more specifically the Mormons fought having Federal Welfare in the State for fear of what it would do to the society–(and they were right)

If you are not a fan of the spending habits of our “Dear Leader” in DC and his cronies in Congress (both GOP & DEM)

The coming election is a battle for the culture of America. This article defines it well.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/01/president_obamas_civilian_soldiers.html

In it the Welfare State vs the Free country is described very effectively.

I think Romney may (based on his faith & personal ethos) be the right voice to oppose the Liberal agenda.  He lived with in in MA and may yet understand the battlefield better than the more conservatives–coming from conservative country.

Give it a thought and remember the Mormons preach the value of work and self-reliance the opposite of the welfare state. Regan used to love to point the the Mormon welfare model.

Read the article and see if you agree.

huh?  you got this from his reaction to the Moon base at a time when Medicare is slated to go bankrupt by 2021?

Fygsmom, you nailed it.  You have a gift for spotting the individual reasons as well as extrapolating the big-picture problems.

This sentence is a keeper: “Newt has had his ego hurt and he doesn’t care what he does to the country as long as he hurts Romney.”

That is precisely what I wanted to say in my post but you said it better and more clearly.

Keep ‘em coming.

P.S.  What in the heck is this about you LOSING your health care coverage thanks to Obama et al?  Now that’s a story we all would like to hear.  Message me via my Facebook wall I.D., JeterAmy30@ymail:disqus .com – fyi, i don’t check that e-mail addy Inbox very often but do check the Facebook wall regularly.  Let’s put our heads together and get your story out there.  There is a shortage of stories on the ill effects of the nascent Obamacare, so your story is vital to hear and could go viral.

P.P.S. I liked your comment about Mormonism.  I’m not religious, but I have worked with and for many Mormons and, with one exception, found them striving harder than anyone else I’ve ever encountered to be moral, dignified, thoughtful, patient, hard-working, disciplined, and on and on.  Mitt Romney should never have to downplay his Mormonish, although he’s smart enough to know that there’s so much inane prejudice against Mormons that he has to keep quiet about his religion.  

In fact, I blame his Mormonisn for his problems during the debates with describing how he accumulated his great wealth and his dragging his heels on producing his IRS forms.  Everybody, especially the media, assumed that Romney stammered and made excuses because he has something to hide.  But it is probably, all of it, due to the precepts of Mormonism that taught him to be modest — that he should never brag about or show off his worldly achievements. …. I’m pooped … more later,and I hope you see this reply and get back to me!

No matter how many times you show that study there are still some who remain oblivious to the truth.  Keep trying Jrterrier–you may get throught eventually.

What is your evidence that Romney or Mormons are hard workers? Is that just a feeling you have.

Romney has not had a job for years. He has just been sitting on his money.

“Welfare State vs the Free Country”

Such a Drama Queen?

Some Welfare State when corporate profits are at record levels, the stock market has gained back 80% of its value, we have had the biggest jump in manufacturing jobs in decades, 2011 was the biggest jobs growth year since 2005, etc. etc.

How about the real choice is:

Going back to the same policies as Bush; lower taxes for the wealthy and giving corporations all the benefits; gutting the social safety net, etc.

Versus

Much more inclusive and fair policies where everyone pays their fair share and we invest in the future and we preserve the social safety net, etc.

Doesn’t matter how much proof is offered if the Talking Points say different. Perception is reality and has nothing to do with the facts. None so blind as those who refuse to see. But I applaud your dedication to trying.

Exactly you smart foxyladi14 you! Once we let the media decide that anyone who changes their mind about anything is a flip-flopper we put people in straight jackets and deny them growth. What absolute bullshit!

Nothing really.  He is a narcissistic and petty man, who keeps calling someone else a liar, and is dragging this election through the mud. He’s been fact checked many times and many of his ads are found wanting in accuracy.   He’s the bully on the playground, who when he doesn’t get his way, strikes out at everyone in his path.  The nerve of him, before the SC primary to tell Rick Santorum and Rick Perry to get out the race.  Who the hell does he think he is?   He’s also delusional.  He keeps telling us he’s the only one electable, and yet in head to head with Obama, he is the one doing the worst.  Now that’s a liar.

Binky.  Normally I am very respectful of commenters on all blogs.  However, I am so sick of Newt and you Newt lovers lies regarding Iowa.  The truth of the matter is the main “negative” thing Rommney said about Newt in Iowa was that he was fined $300,000 for ethical violations and as a results was kicked out of the speakership.  In summary that is true.  Newt wants to say Rommney lied because “I asked members of my party to vote me out”, and that happened 2 years later after I had rewon my election, etc., etc. He wants to separate the two because of the separated time so he calls Mitt a liar.  THAT IS BS.  NEWT SOUNDS LIKE THE LYING @AAHOLE HE IS.  The truth of the matter is that Ron Paul destroyed Newt’s chances in Iowa when he constantly ran those series of ads calling Newt a serial hypocrite with facts to back up his claim.  However, because it served his purpose better Newt decided to accuse Rommney of the devistating blow to his candicacy that Ron Paul delivered.  Thanks Ron Paul!! 

And if we dont’ go ABO, then BO will win in the end. Will the author of this article want that? And the rest of the voting for ABO is a bad idea?

As for me, voting ABO has been my choice and will be as long as we  concentrate on the House and the Senate for a veto-proof majority Tea Party members. Then if Obama still wins the Election, he would be forced to work with the Tea Party or he could be overridden by the House and the Senate.
If the Republican Nominee wins the Election, he/she would still be forced to work with the Tea Party or be overriden, too..

Every post you say the same thing.  If the slate is so horrible why don’t you get out there and run?

well said.  I concur but not because of the looks.

Great reply.  There is no way I would characterize Gingrich as the savior of the middle class.  Elitism is an attitude.  Obama didn’t have a lot of money, but I think he displays an elitist attitude.  I dislike the way Obama lectures us, and yet I get the same impression from Newt.  He’s the smartest guy in the room, and he knows what we need, so we should just shut up and listen.  Being ousted as Speaker, having former congressmen come out against him, and having his entire staff quit on him in the beginning of this election cycle.   Seems Newt can be quite a divisive guy and I’m tired of the divisiveness. 

Probably for the same reason you are not running for office…
And if you look at your own coments..Your statement applies to them as well..your comments echo the same sentiments too..

So I am neutral right now what is wrong with that….

On the one hand  have we have the middle of the road guy who is mirror image of obama buying the election who has an apparently squeaky clean personal life but busines life political and financial life has some questions since he will only put out what he wants when he wants for people to see(Why)
..
On the other hand we have this man who seems who have an unusual political past, and personal life and is willing to put it all out there for all to investigate.

So right now it seems that I either vote for a person whose personal life is moral, but ??? on the rest.
Or I vote for a guy whose seems to have problems with his personal life…but is
fervent about his position that he blows it …

Oh well back to “ABO”–

well said…For its not Romney’s religion that I question.
Although I am not totally behind Romney yet…I feel you did you a great job of your presentation of his faith.

Hey, LJ, the CBO lends ammunition to your analyses: But here is the kicker: “Had that portion of the decline in the labor force participation rate since 2007 that is attributable to neither the aging of the baby boomers nor the downturn in the business cycle (on the basis of the experience in previous downturns) not occurred, the unemployment rate in the fourth quarter of 2011 would have been about 1¼ percentage points higher than the actual rate of 8.7 percent” translation: CBO just admitted that the BLS numbers are bogus and real unemployment is 10%. Thank you read the rest of this stuff on today’s CBO’s projections, and try not to puke: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/latest-congressional-budget-outlook-2012-2022-released

It’s either Newt or Rick for me.  I have to agree with Soros, Romney and Obama are alike.

Having a crush on a presidential candidate sounds like another disaster about to happen.   Having a soft spot for someone if they have touched your heart because of their courage and their determination to do the right thing, to keep the Constitutional mandates and principles at the forefront of their agenda, to paint a picture of the future that is inspirational and practically realisable is natural.  But to set the bar so low and admire someone because they have a work record, without qualifying the type of work entailed and the recipient of his charitable donations is a little odd but there again, you may well be a fan of Bain and it’s subsiduaries and hirelings, as well as people who keep their money offshore along with the other Pirates of the Caribbean and  are toally in sync with the idea of progressing from Obama and his stance on Christian values to Romney and his membership to the Mormon Church.   The Trinity Church in Chicago was on display during the last presidential election campaign and We the People apparently were gungho to have someone who practiced his religion in a church promoting Black Theology, and now no one is actively investigating the roots of Mormonism and what happens at the highest level of this Denomination.    Who and what is Mormon?     Ask yourself, who do your serve, it may be the devil or i t may be the Lord, but you gotta serve somebody.   Bob Dylan says so.

Strongly disagree.

Capitalism in America has never been the issue, because it’s never been in question.

I have no problem with LDS.

Specifically, it’s Romney’s choice of foreign policy advisors, my doubt that a businessman is a wise choice to lead the nation in a time of impending crisis, and the inability of the GOP candidates in general to address or even acknowledge the concerns of independents and “crossover” Dems, who will ultimately determine the results of the election.

That’s why I support Dr. Paul this year.  And my vote is not transferable.

No.  I am not a strong Romney supporter.  But if I have to choose between the repubs and Obama it would be in the order of Romney, Paul, Santorium.  The serial liars Obama and Gringrich do not make the cut.  As I said in an earlier comment, Gringrich knows that Ron Paul dealt the knockout blow to his campaign in Iowa when Paul’s ads called him a serial hypocrite with evidence to back it up.  However because Mit became the frontrunner, it served Newt’s purpose to acccuse Mitt of lying on him when Mitt told the truth about his $300,000 fine and lost of his speakership not by Dems but by Repubs.  He’s a lying piece of sh*t who takes parts and pieces of something and make it into something entirely different and therefore a cynical lie.  I truly detest people like that.  He and Obama are opposite sides of the same coin. I am an AA who marched with MLK and I depise Obama.  Why?  When blacks were backing Hillary up to 65% he and his wife were trying and saying everything to get black support especially those of us over 60 who were strong Clinton supporters.  Two very crucial things happened.  Obama spoke from the pulpit of a black church in I think Atlanta and lied to the audience implying that his father and mother were part of a civil rigths march where they met and “little Barack was born.”  His parents were never part of the struggle.  When he was confronted with the fact that he was born 2 years before that particular march he said he was speaking metaphorically.  Of all people Chris Matthews knew this and pointed it out on his show but only once and dropped it like a hot potato.  The man actually lied while standing in the pulpit of a church.  Such a person who claims to be a christian is a dangerous peice of sh*t who deserves no one’s support.  Finally before the SC primary where blacks were still supporting Hillary by 65% his wife kept saying that “black people would have to “wake up”.  Then came the lies, misrepresentations and corrupt race baiting innuendoes against the Clintons.  The tide turned in his favor and blacks voted for him at 95%.  I was one of the proud 5% and I will forever be one of the 5%.

What is the extent of your experience with Mormons?

That said, the parallel between GWB and Romney is an apt one.

Had Barky even lived up to ten percent of his promises to the American people who supported him, it might be an argument that actually might have swayed people.

As it is, not a chance.  Barack Obama’s piss-poor performance has destabilized this nation’s economic security to such a point, he’s the last one any sane American would turn to, for any sort of solution.

That’s right.  Now to my amazement I get an email from Alan Grayson’s campaign, ridiculing the Moon colonization idea being promoted by Mr. Gingrich.   People are so out of touch and out of date with progress.   We are going to go extinct like the dinosaurs if we don’t get on with the Extraterrestrial Imperative as outline by Lynden La Rouche and his PAC.
You can find out more on larouchepac.com if you love the  idea of man in space.     It’s the only way to get out of this, to concentrate on something meaningful for mankind, the human species to get behind, and the work involved in providing the technology and power sources that will be required to do so is what will save the population of the planet.  The austerity agenda of the oligarchs is about one thing, Genocide.

Yeah, but that’s because Barky had to go earn his keep by fellating the insurance companies that bankrolled your affirmative action hire’s first election.

Had single payer and not your boy’s pitiful compromise been on the table, the people would have overwhelmed Congress with their calls of support, for something that actually would have worked for them, rather than the usual three-card monte game the Barkster offers up.

The monetary system that you are referring to that underwrites the Social Security provision for elderly and the disabled among us, as well as support for children from poor homes etc.  is DEAD.  There is not point at all in commenting on anything that depends on the monetarist system any longer.   It has collapsed, and that is obvious by the way the banks are asking for bailout after bailout .   They have stolen the money put their in trust by We the People and they conjured up bubble after bubble in order to make it necessary for the debt to pile up so high that they could push their genocidal oligarchical policy.
They are planning triggering World War Three now and in the meantime are murdering and starving as many people to death as they can, apart from driving them crazy, and ruining their homes, their marriages and their futures.  We have to reinstate the Glass Steagall Act by passing HR 1489 immediately, The Return to Prudent Banking Act introduced by Marcy Kaptur D Ohio.  Then having gotten the too large to fail banks under bankruptcy protection, including the FED open a new Federal National Bank through which Congress can utter Credit as per the Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution for infrastructure platform projects such as NAWAPA and refunding NASA, building a mag lev railroad system, and put million of people back to work, as well as training the youth for skills that will be required to complete these projects which will be of such a magnitude that they will take up to two or three generations to complete.   We have to go back to the spirit of FDR and JFK who understood the importance of the need for highter and higher forms of energy flux density of our power sources, and for the creative ability of man placed in them by the Creator, to be allowed to take it’s natural course and workd towards the survival of the human race.
 You have to put away  childish thoughts and get on with being an adult, and envision ways and means to save the planet and it’s human race from extinction like happened to the dinosaurs.  If you don’t have a reason to survive then you won’t.
Austerity isn’t a good enough carrot for me.   I want to colonize the Moon and go to Mars and travel on a nuclear train and see the coming generations lead an exciting life and make progress and be all they can be.
Anything less is just plain UNAMERICAN.

Agree.  You’re just seeking the truth, trying to look at all of them, from all angles.

The two frontrunners, especially, are confusing candidates.

There have been so many flips in strategy, and so many conflicting accounts of history and position points, a person could literally spend all day, just researching them.

Your questions strike me as ones we should all be asking.

Mr Johnson I staggered stupefied and startled to learn of your firm UNFAVORABLES for the former speaker of the house. ( yup got a tongue firmly in a cheek- not my own cheek – but I didn’t think it ultimately matter)

Gotta laugh listening to you at your most diplomatic on the J.B. Show last evening You masked ur total disdain for Gingy pretty well. I was waiting to hear you catch yourself b/f cursing on air.

I live in NY I ain’t gonna get much to say in a nomination if Florida is the final word and there for y a person such as myself would rather see the go on . Seems a bit Asinine that the 1/2 state primaries get to decide the nominee for the other 44 states.

If I was to vote today- Santorum is the closest thing resembling a conservative in this race
Paul would be my choice if I believe he would survive those newsletters
( I think u concur)

There isn’t anyway that these people are better.  They are just as bad because they are not coming with the solution to the problems we face.   We need Glass Steagall reinstated, we need a fixed exchange rate between sovreign nations, we need an American Asian Alliance, starting with Russia and China to work on massive projects that willl put people back to work world wide and develop modern technology and sciences that will support the growing world population and head off into the Universe and look for more resources that most certainly are up there in abundance.  Before that we need to learn how to develop the Arctic and Antartic regions where we have resources in abundance too.  We need to construct huge water management projects which will enable us to deal with the world wide famine that is fast approaching.
I don’t hear any ot these people addressing these problems and the war that Obama is promoting is deadly and will lead to the extinction of the human race coupled with the austerity agenda that Tim Geithner and Angela Merkel are pushing for.
We will not survive with this type of leadership.  I suggest you check our larouchepac.com and see what Lynden laRouche  has to offer, and before you laugh at his ideas, listen to them and check out what Webster Tarpley has to say as well as other sites that are aware of this up coming war and what will transpire if we continue down this path.  It’s  not pretty.

Everybody pays their fair share? Really? That hasn’t ever been the case through out our history to date. And certainly isn’t occurring now
When nearly half the nation is paying nothing in federal tax When the US tax system is one of top five progressively taxed nation states in the Free World.

Less harmful doesn’t cut it.   We need leadership not something less harmful.  Anything that doesn’t address the problems we face isn’t less harmful its
just as bad.   These guys are all out of touch, out of date and none of them have the leadership qualities it will take to deal with the economic crisis and the famine and wars that are coming along with it.
We are facing extinction as the human race, and none of these guys have a single plan to get us out of trouble.   Their methods and ways of debating are not compatible with the demands of modern day life and it’s demands.  Say what you want about Putin, the Russians and the Chinese, they are making strides in the right direction and for that very reason the oligarchs are jealous and are selfishly pouting because they got caught with the hand in the cookie jar once too often.  They don’t want to pay the price.
They have committed high crimes against the people that God created in his own image, and now they have to count the cost.     That’s the law.  If you deny the law it’s rightful place in society then you are an outlaw just like all of these wanna be presidents, including the present WH resident.    Times’ up!

that is what they do.

Obama Accused Of Contempt Of Court At “Birther Hearing”

http://www.infowars.com/obama-accused-of-contempt-of-court-in-birther-hearing/

That would interesting the hospitals getting off the federal subsidies and they swiftly collapse and then you will have LESS resources than we do now. You know they will not turn away patients unless they are seeking abortions on demand.

Why is when I try and like Romney since hs is looking our choice him and his  campaign start looking more like Obam and  even more like Obama’s 2008 campaign???
The video interview with Soros stacked on top of the rest pushed me even further .
Last man standing gets my vote “ABO”…
Of the ones running I lean do more towards Rick or Paul…but of the two in the front I’m shaking my head in wonderment.

But Mars is far more feasible, and practical, given the rewards.

One of Bain’s subsiduaries employs Rush Limbaugh.  What does that say to you?
It’s another load of propaganda and it’s worn out.   We need to reinstate Glass Steagall to put the oligarchs out of their misery.  Then we have to stop this War Drive.  We need a thermonuclear war like a hole in the head.
Come on everyone, bite the bullet.
We face certain extinction of the human race if we continue on down this path.   The GOP candidates are not offering solutions because they don’t even understand the problem.
If they did they would make sure that the Glass Steagall standard was number one on their agenda, that having Barack Obama constitutionally removed from office tied for number one place with Glass Steagall, so that the drive for the deadly war is cut off.
We have restore our nation to prosperity by shutting down the oligarch’s gambling bankers den, and open a new National Federal Bank through which Congress can utter credit in accordance with Article 1 Section 8 of the US Constitution for infrastructure projects including water management programs to stop the food shortages and famines, and to refund Nasa to deal with the turbulence that is so drastically affecting us on this planet from what we call outer space.  OUr Galaxy in other words.
Check out larouchepac.com for a overview on many subjects that will help in the recovery of the human economic system, and before you start poo pooing it check out what Webster Tarpley is saying as well as others who are aware that World War Three is on the horizon and we need to stop it right away.
Nip it in the bud.

Yeah.   I love Tiffany blue too.

Do the GA courts have anything better to do these days?

They will tear him apart in the general election on that part…

Santorum? Goldwater is not just rolling in his grave, but would more than likely start digging himself out if St. Rick got the nod as a conservative…..

They’re all up a gum tree.
If you are serious about saving the human race from extinction, then we need Glass Steagall.  Start a Credit System in the USA with a new Bank and fund GREAT projects that will provide work for our people for generations to come.  Here and if we deem it right, colonise the Moon and whatever other planet is practical.  We have to grow out of the being beaten down and doom ridden mentality we are wallowing in and get on with being American like FDR and JFK did.  The current Administration and Congress of like dinosaurs, they have not reason to survive and that’s why they won’t .
We have to let them go and get on with something that is going to work to keep us alive and the oligarchs, Wall Street, etc etc will not make it.  They have committed high crimes against humanity and that has been proved time and time again.   Our laws and Constitution stand for someting better than they can envision because they are stuck in a rut and they cannot make it out of there.

What purposes?

”
(Larry did you see the jobs number out of Germany today. The best jobs
numbers since unification.)”

This is nothing more than a power play by the Germans…. Just wait a little bit longer…. for that big hole to drop out….

Who’s the leader of the ‘powers’ you mention.  Be precise please.

Great comment.

Clue here… the Churches do support there institutions. Matter of fact the Catholic Church runs more hospitals on this rock than any other organization. So what is the big deal if any religious organization running a hospital needs financial help?? I do not consider any hospital “ANY HOSPITAL” in financial needs sucking off the taxpayers. Shoot, matter of fact, most hospitals that handle charity care are mainly RELIGIOUS! But why should any of that matter…..

The Empire and it’s monetary system is hated all over the world.  We are hated because of the allegiance of the current resident in the WH to Empire, the oligarchical principles that are manifest in the Inter Alpha Banking Group and all the money laundering that is going on to finance the wars and insurgencies and drone attacks etc etc that are destablizing everything.    We can destablize the oligarchs by stymying their monetarist system as did FDR by reinstating the Glass Steagall standard.  We won’t have enough money after that because of the looting done by the FED and them, so we can only recover by going back to the Alexander Hamilton economic model enshrined in the Constitution.  Open a new Federal National US Bank and have Congress to start uttering credit to be issued as money through that new bank .   We can rebuild our nation and form alliance with other sovreign nations to help them rebuild their economies too.      Why would we want to start World War Three?    It is a hateful idea and the people who are organizing it are hateful as well.  We have to take t he bull by the horns and make sure they are stopped in their tracks.    We have hardly any time left before they will trigger this thing………. they are llike the dinosaurs, obviously they have no reason to survive , are we going to go the way of the donosaurs with them?    Or not?       

We cannot rely on World Opinion.  The Constitution is a  much better bet.

Yes, they’re both losers.

If you were being targeted for extinction how would you feel?   

“The view and attitudes of America by the rest of the world has done nothing but improve since Obama took office.”

World View Poll back in March 7, 2011? BBC? Nearly 30,000 people in 28 countries were interviewed for the poll, between November 2009 and February 2010. 30,000 people polled? Worldwide? This is your justification?

May I sincerely ask you…. What fucking planet do you live on? It sure the shit ain’t this one…..

I am all for a moon base and moon based colonies.I also have several folk in mind as volunteers that should lead the charge… 

it’s always interesting what people consider “conservative.”  i guess many think that social conservatism = conservative.  i’d rather have economic conservative and be libertarian on social issues.

the offshose stuff is just innuendo.  he is not using the offshore accounts as tax havens.  he has paid US taxes on the cayman accounts and the swiss accounts.

Finally a judge with some courage and smarts…

I do believe that history will end up finding out that Obama’s past was not quite what the Democratic party and him have protrayed it as…At 60 I am hoping I live to see that day.

Good points scotty…Its not the religion…

I hate to admit it but you are correct re: Romney’s unfarvorables
He has not sealed the deal w/ the base and going negative onGrinchy is not the way to pull ahead

This where the republicans blow it often They are in a big hurry to move to the center they neglect to lock up the hard right. So that is why u get Grinchies

Its going to take a lot more than these comments to make me change from ABO.  I would vote for a dead rat, rather than see Obama re-elected.

Given the imperitive of replacing the seditious terd now squating at Motel 1600, ABO is where it is at. That said, I am the first person to acknowledge how bad that ABO thing sucks. That’s what the meme was on Bush and for that matter a “Clinton Dynasty”.

I just wish the RNC beauty contest /food fight would get sorted so the focus can return to the criminality that is BO.

Just a Kite’s opinion who’s been relagated to the NQ peanut gallery.

sad that. Nothing is free.

” Don’t care too much for his Morman religion for its views on Blks”…

respectfully, what might they be?

Bronwyn, I was about to take tamminator to taxk for being so rude as to call you a flake.  Actually, reading your voting history made me realize how blind I had always been, always voting Dem until the last election.  Now that I am independent, I feel so much more free to read all sorts of sites and writers, etc., and to judge for myself.

And I do understand what you mean by the “crushes” you said you had on candidates.  Somewhere inside of all of us we want that super-person who can handle the incredibly important job of being president and do it just for us.  And of course no person in the world will make all the decisions exactly the way any one voter will make them.

It’s very easy for each of us here to sit and criticize candidates or say we like certain ones. It’s much harder for the person elected to do a good job of that job.

So, I believe it’s very important to find a person who seems to have the experience of dealing with all sorts of people pulling them in different directions and remain true to some core principles.  It’s important to find someone who has remained true to core principles of right and wrong as much as possible.  It’s important to have a person who does love the principles on which this country was founded.  (I don’t want people who want to change those so much.)

Obama was clearly in my mind someone who did not have any of those attributes and who DID want to “fundamentally” change our country. 

So I became tempted by the ABO idea.  But then Newt came along—AGAIN.  I tried to tell myself to give him a chance, as I thought maybe having been a Dem all those years made it so I didn’t see him clearly back then, when he was actually in the limelight before.  So I went back and read the history to refresh my memory.  I’ve watched him during this and now remember him then. 

Voting for him, in my mind, would be demeaning this most important “job.”  I have felt so sick about the way Obama and Mechelle have treated their positions, almost mocking our country’s traditions and USING the WH to vacation, spend, and act like all the stories we have read about the nuveau riche while denigrating all rich people.

I just cannot bring myself to say that I would want Newt and Callista there either.   So, if it were O vs. Newt, I’d stay out of that one, unless a third party did have a candidate–one I could deal with.  I was proud of my son for voting for Nader.  He is of the age and background from which you might have assumed he would become an obot.  He just didn’t like McCain’s war mongering ways, and felt in his gut Obama was a phony.  He might also have stayed out of it, but he felt he wanted to vote for someone. 

I was around when Kennedy did that and loved the idea.  I was sad to see the program shut down.  But since I was around when Kennedy decided to put the man on the moon, I KNOW that financial conditions in our country then made it possible.  These are times for fixing what is broken.

and more difficult to return from…..

You took the words right out of my mouth!  I was just saying that to a friend of mine today.  Much as a detest the puppet empty suit Barack, I detest Newt as much if not more, and know he would be worse for the countryl.

Maybe the arrest of Soro will happen and Soros won’t be talking up either one.—————————–
(smile) dream on

And, Mitt is pure as the driven snow? Right.  And Mitt is not narcissistic.  All politicians are narcissistic to one degree or another.
And have you read this?  http://tinyurl.com/78dwpl2

And Romney needs those huge mansions he owns?  Get real.  It’s their money and none of our business where they spend it as long as it’s legal.

Did he spend my tax payer dollar to buy his wife a gift?  No!  So it’s not enslaving me or taking food out of your children’s mouths.  Now, Obama and Michelle – spending taxpayer $ to go on the fine vacations and wearing clothes that cost several thousand dollars, having big parties — now that’s taking food out of your children’s mouths and food off my table!

and read what Mitt did here:  http://tinyurl.com/78dwpl2

So you’re not respectful of my opinion.  Tough.  I’ve followed the debates and the campaigns closely and Romney (or his surrogates) started the negativity.  That’s when I changed my opinion of Romney and nothing I’ve seen or read since changes that opinion.  Newt didn’t tell me anything–I don’t need to get my opinions from advertisements.  I’ve got sense enough to do some research and reading on my own.  You don’t like it.  Fine.  Don’t read anything I write.  I get it.  You’re for Romney.  

LOL…..

An important part of their dilemma that is rarely addressed, is that they’ve damn well outsourced most of their production to countries like Slovenia, as well.

Key to understanding the Germans is, that they cannot handle unpredictability.

The southwestern industrial cities have sizable numbers of Greek immigrants, second only to the Turks in size.

Meanwhile, the “guest worker” family members in the surrounding nations are converging on Germany, for “extended visits”, while ethnic Germans are struggling and failing to play the part of benevolent lenders…

Interesting to watch how this all plays out.

It’s true.  If those essential services cease to be, that’s the end of ANY healthcare network, as we know it, at least up here in the Northeast.

In Manhattan, when just ONE hospital (St. Vincent’s) closed (for unrelated reasons), the quality and response times south of 34th Street were profoundly and adversely affected.

Granted….and I actually think that the best way to go, would be cash on the barrel, with significantly lower fees, as technology and the market catches up.

I just see single-payer as the quickest way, to release the employers from their traditional role of paying premiums, without workplace resentments, and a route away from poorly managed private insurance plans.

I have not one bit of pity for these insurance companies.  They played a dirty game with Barky, and sold the people a bill of goods.

They forfeited any right to participate in legitimate healthcare at that point.

If they cannot even bust Corzine’s ass, it’ll be a cold day in hell before they even tap Soros.

Everyone’s immune, and no one knows nuttin’….

Just out of curiousity, have any of the Obama supporters you encounter, actually come up to you, in the here and now, and admitted, “You were right, we should have gone with Hillary?”

Newt has been saying for days that Romney is a liar, and yet it is Romney who has gone negative?  I would agree with the statement that they have both gone negative.  The problem is–you can’t lock up the hard right.  They used to say that to control collective thinking among Democrats was like trying to herd cats.  Impossible.  I think it was the Republican hard right that lost the last election, and it will be their fault again if Romney is the candidate and they don’t support him.  The extreme right and extreme left are killing this country.

Whew!!!!!!That’s a relief.   What’s his take on Obama’s World War Three thermonuclear drive?   Don’t we have some of the taxes he paid left in the kitty to pay one member of Congress to start impeachment proceedings for the current president?
There is a famous law professor at the Illinoise University Law School who said he would draft it for free, so all we really need is the will.   But any taxes are gratefully accepted so good news thank you.

Great.    Just so long as they go via NASA space craft under NASA’s direction, there’s plenty of room up there.  Just remem ber that they will probably have to start off in a sort of controlled environment in a lunar cave for a while at least, so they would need to take a few good books along.  I would make a suggestion, take a copy of the Llamsa Bible, translated from the Aramaic Peshita.   Bon voyage to your travelling buddies.

For real?

Sure.  We limit ourselves.

God wants and expects us to go forth…

With everything that is going on, we should be building exodus ships…

I’m very exasperated by the short-sightedness of our industry leaders.

If we were actually preparing for a realistic future, our aerospace factories would be full-on, 24/7, and there would BE no unemployment.

Consider, if we reconsidered the hundreds of “science fiction” movies, books, and popular TV series, not as merely entertainment, but inspirational and educational programming of that era’s future.

The art form’s creators were regarding as drug-addled dreamers, but most of the concepts came about in the forties, long before the widespread use of hallucinogens.

Is it so unthinkable that they were divinely inspired instruction manuals for a new generation?

I wouldn’t have supported Kennedy under any circumstances. 
Newt, to the best of my knowledge, hasn’t killed anyone.
As to being a whoremonger, while I deplore it, maybe we should make a list of all the politicians who are, as well.  Nah, the list would take too long to compile.
Drunken?  We don’t know that. 
What do we know of the drinking patterns of the other candidates?

Shutting down our space programs was a boneheaded and dangerous move.  Our so-called friend, China, among others is ramping up their space programs and as they grow, we weaken.
I don’t think we can afford the luxury of not reopening our space programs.  What may seem irrelevant today (man on the moon) may be a necessity in the future.  We are now behind dangerous nations.

And hopefully the Democratic party will be destroyed when it all comes out.
They have beenn complicit from the start in massive fraud upon the American people.
There must be a price to pay for that.

And hopefully the Democratic party will be destroyed when it all comes out.
They have beenn complicit from the start in massive fraud upon the American people.
There must be a price to pay for that.

And hopefully the Democratic party will be destroyed when it all comes out.
They have beenn complicit from the start in massive fraud upon the American people.
There must be a price to pay for that.

And hopefully the Democratic party will be destroyed when it all comes out.
They have beenn complicit from the start in massive fraud upon the American people.
There must be a price to pay for that.

And hopefully the Democratic party will be destroyed when it all comes out.
They have beenn complicit from the start in massive fraud upon the American people.
There must be a price to pay for that.

“Had Barky even lived up to ten percent of his promises to the American people who supported him, it might be an argument that actually might have swayed people.”

What 90% of promises did Obama not keep?

He has actually done most of what he said he would do.

“Barack Obama’s piss-poor performance has destabilized this nation’s economic ”

How do you figure? Do you have any evidence whatsoever that this is a true statement. He has actually completely stabilized the economy. He got the economy growing again, he has got job growth going again, the stock market is up 80% from its lows when he took over, etc. etc. etc.

Typcial statements by you that bare no reality and you have zero facts to back up these silly statements.

“When nearly half the nation is paying nothing in federal tax ”

Typical BS. Yeah a lot of people pay no federal income taxes because they do not make any money, under $20,000 per household.

Everybody pays a lot of taxes when you include payroll taxes and consumption taxes.

Those poor people that pay not income taxes actually pay a much higher proportion of their income in taxes than wealthy people how pay much much less proportionally.

Guys like Romney paying like 13.9% do not pay their fair share. And the GOP want to lower taxes on the wealthy even further.

“When the US tax system is one of top five progressively taxed nation states in the Free World.”

Do you have any actual proof of that statement or are you just pulling it out of your ass?

It will be interesting to see if the U.S. goes into a double dip because of Europe as Larry Johnson seems to say. So far there is little evidence of this, particularly when countries like Germany are still doing relatively well. There is no sign of a big recession in the EU so far. And certainly nothing of a magnitude that would have a major impact on the U.S.

Consider this….
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/31/hurt-islamist-firster-president-not-what-he-claime/
Also, OB hide his background and has destroyed this economy.  So why pray tell keep him in office!
BTW, Corzine ( the guy who lost I.Billion, sunk Gold Sac and messed up N Jersey)  just collected 500,000 for his BFF.
But where is the money he lost….has obozo inquired or the feds after him…..?

No Scotty they have not.  That is not suprising since none of my 8 family members with the exception of 1 sister who did not vote for Obama has admitted I was right and “we should have voted for Hillary.”

“…as long as we concentrate on the House and the Senate for a veto-proof majority Tea Party members. Then if Obama still wins the Election, he would be forced to work with the Tea Party or he could be overridden…”

Don’t waste your time, LOL!

 …and the Daily Caller is covering a “bribery” scandal at DOJ.

 Obama and Holder need to go!

PA.  Your proctogolist called, he found your head. !! It was firmly planted in your DUMB ASS !!

It’s not too late.   We have to jam the switchboard of the House telling them to reinstate Glass Steagall or resign.  They are not doing their job properly and are not awak or smelling the coffee.
We also have to make certain that the Congress decides that another week of the current administration will have us in harm’s way.   Even if Russia and China and India are digging in their heels at the UN there is still a strong possibility that something really dumb will happen just because the oligarchs are so much on the defensive because of the mess they made of everything.
Their little plans are unravelling quicker than ever so they are now in panic mode, what can we do with our last buck?
None of the things that are needed to restart the world economy will happen until the monetary system is gotten rid of and the Credit System of Alexander Hamilton is in place, with plans for
NASA and NAWAPA, and the Bering Straits bridge and the
mag lev railroad system is being built.   I”m glad you like the space thing, that’s my dream.