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Chris Matthews and Chris Hitchens: Misogyny Squared, Hypocrisy Cubed

I had the supreme misfortune of watching the ever moronic, self-important Mr. Tingle-Up-His-Leg-Matthews interview Chris Hitchens of Vanity Fair, and Peter Beinart of Time Magazine in reference to the buzz about Senator Hillary Clinton being offered the position of Secretary of State in Barack Obama’s incoming administration.

Let’s put it this way, one should never watch Hardball while eating.

A little background, for those who may have tuned in late. Chris Matthews was recently ridiculed by his far more sane and sober compadre at MSNBC, Joe Scarborough, when Chris said he felt it was his job to try to “help the Obama administration succeed.” Funny, I thought he fancied himself a journalist, even a pundit – not a cheerleader.

But I have to hand it to Matthews, it was the first honest comment I have heard out of him in a very long time. He is indeed a cheerleader who has practically – forgive me – been sucking Obama toes on national television this entire year. His behavior has been nothing short of a disgrace.

Even more shameful than his fawning, sycophantic treatment of Barack Obama has been his misogyny and jealousy of Hillary Clinton. But his bravado in trashing her is only in evidence behind her back. Whenever he interviews her, he is totally flustered and out of his league. I guess we don’t need to wonder why he feels it necessary to constantly try to “cut her down to his small size.” He started on this path by saying the only reason she had been elected Senator of NY was that “people felt sorry for her because of her husband.” It went downhill from there.

Oddly, she was re-elected handily and has done an incredible job for her constituency and has many other accomplishments to boast of in the Senate, as first lady of the United States, and earlier, as first lady of Arkansas. Significantly, this is also a lady who has religiously stood up for the rights of women, LGBT, and children, education, first responders and veterans. I don’t think anyone needs to feel sorry for Hillary Clinton in order to vote for her.

Rather, let us take a moment to feel sorry for Chris Matthews, so intimidated by this woman’s intestinal fortitude, preparedness, and drive that he cannot live with himself unless he diminishes her at every turn.

Fast forward to this evening where he posed the question to both Hitchens and the far more reasonable and civilized Beinart of why Barack, a man of great “candle power” as Matthews put it – whatever that means, would want the “drama” of having Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State. By reputation, deservedly, Senator Clinton is known as one of the hardest working Senators out there. She has built a reputation these past eight years for keeping her head down, being collegial and getting the job done. Even conservatives like Henry Kissinger and Senator Kyl are praising the idea of her appointment.

What ‘drama’?

Well, gee, Chris, not that I want Hillary to be subordinate to Barack Obama in any way, or give up her elected position and tie her fate to his, but here’s a little scenario for you:

It is more than likely that when Obama and Biden had their National Security briefing with President Bush just before the election, Senator Obama had a come to Jesus moment and realized just how much hot water we are in. Perhaps it stopped being a game to him. He realized the mess that is this country’s current foreign policy is all going to rest on his shoulders – and his name – so he figured he’d better hire a few adults to mind the mint.

Perhaps that is why three quarters of Obama’s hires thus far are Clintonistas.

Why would he want the drama, indeed, Chris? Perhaps he would rather have the ‘drama’ of competence and excellence versus the lunacy represented by people like Susan Rice, Samantha Powers or Zbignieu Brezinski – but that’s only my opinion.

Then Chris Hitchens chimed in with his rabid Clinton hatred. For those who may not be familiar with Hitchens, but as you can see for yourself when watching him, he basically vomits lie after lie, but because he recites them in a firm voice, drooling over his own pretentious, slightly slurred British accent, we are expected to take his idiotic pronouncements as the ‘sermon on the mount.’

He first accused Hillary Clinton of playing the race card on Barack Obama.

I. Will. Repeat. That. Slowly.

He first accused Hillary Clinton of playing the race card on Barack Obama.

This slug of a man has the nerve to say this on national television? Obama’s campaign, with the able help of Axelrod, Jesse Jackson, Jr. and countless other surrogates, played the race card with impunity every day since the end of January to mow down all comers. They used it as a defense against any and all legitimate criticism and created a whisper campaign against President Bill Clinton out of whole cloth, declaring him a racist, in order to render the ever popular and accomplished Clintons poisonous to the African American community.

I will never forgive this or forget it.

The inexcusable Hitchens goes on to declare the prospect of appointing Hillary Clinton to Secretary of State as a “ludicrous embarrassment.” Well, no, Mr. Hitchens, the only ludicrous embarrassment here is you, sir.

He further accuses Hillary of stopping Bill Clinton from dealing with the crisis in Bosnia because she wanted him to solely focus on her health plan. This accusation is so ridiculous that thankfully Mr. Beinart took him to school on that one. The crisis in Bosnia and Kosovo, as you may remember, was a victory accomplished under the leadership of Gen. Wesley Clark, without one allied casualty.

Hitchens and Matthews then go on a feverish bashing of Bill Clinton’s world travels for his foundation as a possible conflict of interest, complaining and worrying about foreign donors. I suppose the irony is totally lost of them that Obama’s highly questionable internet contributions have never been – and most likely – will never be reviewed. But as Mr. Matthews will not hesitate to inform you, Barack Obama is as close to perfection as one can hope to be and is beyond reproach, surely.

Thankfully, Peter Beinart correctly points out what President-elect Obama surely knows: Hillary is a very hard working, gifted, savvy politician, specializing in foreign affairs and defense and has a great reputation and respect around the world.

Obama may have attempted to belittle these very facts during the campaign to suit his own ends, but her being the frontrunner for Secretary of State has, in one fell swoop, validated every single concern held by those of us originally against his candidacy:

She is far more qualified on every front. And as much as Obama tried to diminish the accomplishments of her husband’s administration, his naming Rahm Emanuel Chief of Staff along with so many other former Clinton Administration operatives makes clear that what Lou Dobbs of CNN said was true : “The Clinton administration in the 90’s was as close to Camelot as we’ve ever had” – Republicans out gunning for them daily notwithstanding.

As Hillary put it: “what didn’t they like – the peace or the prosperity.”

Matthews continued his same rant on Page Six of the NY Post:

Matthews, who once opined that men who supported Clinton were “castratos in the eunuch chorus,” forgot the cardinal rule for those who are often mentioned on Page Six – he didn’t take a good look around on the Acela train from Philadelphia to Washington Saturday before he started bad-mouthing the New York senator.

“I don’t understand it,” Matthews bellowed. “Why would he pick her? I thought we were done with the Clintons. She’ll just use it to build her power base. It’s Machiavellian. And then we’ll have Bill Clinton, too. I thought Obama didn’t want drama. He’s already got [chief of staff Rahm] Emanuel and [transition team leader John] Podesta. He’ll have even more drama with her.

“She’s just a soap opera. If he doesn’t pick her, everyone will say she’s been dissed again, we’ll have to live through that again.”

Matthews seems to be playing both sides of the fence. The host, who apologized to Clinton last year for claiming she got where she was because “her husband messed around,” said on-air last Friday: “Look, I think that since she lost the fight for the nomination, [Clinton] has been not just a good soldier, she has sang the tune of [Obama]. She’s been illustrious, she’s been admirable . . . her spirit seems to be with him.”

It is clear, Chris Matthews is only able to be kind to Hillary when she is servile. But stand up tall and she must be beaten down. Oh, Chris, you are sad, sad, sad. What private fantasy does her humiliation fulfill for you, Mr. Matthews?

I do not know the advisability of Senator Clinton actually accepting this position. Beinart thinks she would be great, but in his article, Don’t Do It Hillary!, he advised her against taking it – fearing her likely Senator-for-life position would be preferable to the risk of being blamed for Obama’s mistakes and then terminated – left out in the cold politically. We certainly need her help and expertise, and as much as I selfishly want her out front and center, I am inclined to agree with Beinart, and do not trust Obama to treat her fairly, hand in hand with the interests of his administration as a whole.

We shall see.

More important at this moment is the fact that the disgusting sexism which reared its ugly head in this campaign against Senator Clinton, and then later, against Governor Palin, is not yet done. These ladies have exhibited great courage in the face of attacks no male politician would ever have been subjected to.

That Hillary is able to hold her head high and continue to do her job in the face of these petty tyrants nipping at her heels says plenty.

Significantly, back in the Spring, after the debacle of Obama’s 20 year attendance at Rev. Wright’s divisive and racist church was revealed, both Matthews and Hitchens floated the idea that his presence there was Michelle’s fault. So while Obama must remain exalted in their eyes, his wife is not so lucky. These misogynists really tried to tell the American people that a 47 year old millionaire, best selling author, US Senator and father, front-runner for the Presidency of the United States, did not have the courage or presence of mind to pick his behind up out of a church that didn’t suit him and leave – regardless of what his wife was doing.

I posit to you, if that is the case, perhaps these two men are projecting their own weakness onto Barack Obama, excusing him for lacking a courage they themselves do not possess. If indeed Obama could not be held responsible for his own actions, he has no business running for – or holding – the highest and most difficult office in the land. While I have no feelings for Michelle Obama one way or the other, at that moment, I felt sympathy for her, knowing that, in order to excuse the man, more blame will undoubtedly be coming her way.

Perhaps this is endemic in our society. If so, it is as sickening as it is unfair.

As ye sow, so shall ye reap. If it is true, as rumored, that Chris Matthews is seeking a Senate seat in the next election, I wager that if he had one tenth the vitriol leveled at him as Senator Clinton, he would be curled up in the fetal position, crying like a baby.

Hitchens, likewise, a bully, declared a while back that water boarding was not torture – that is until he experienced it himself – for all of one and one-half seconds – when he stopped the test by throwing a “safety switch”. I wonder if he were subjected to the kind of verbal ridicule and torture he bestows upon others, would he likewise be running for the “safety switch.”

I didn’t know that outright lying and name calling substituted for an actual discussion of the issues where women politicians are concerned. Truly I am sad that Messrs. Matthews and Hitchens have chosen to place themselves at the bottom of the food chain with this type of behavior.

Thankfully, in this interview, anyway, Mr. Beinart stood erect and left the Neanderthals in the dust. Here’s to all those who have evolved enough to address the issues and judge each candidate and prospective appointment on the merits, and leave the schoolboy insecurity out of it.

  • TakeBackGameNite

    youtube.com/watch?v=zODHaIDfPXU

    • DawnelleTIREDofSPIN

      While I have no feelings for Michelle Obama one way or the other, at that moment, I felt sympathy for her, knowing that, in order to excuse the man, more blame will undoubtedly be coming her way.

      Ani, that would be the ONLY sympathy chord I could muster for MO

      the female chord (not that she would appreciate it)

      and my suggestion to you is

      STOP WATCHING MSNBO!!!
      lol :-)

      • Ani

        Right you are — I only forced myself to watch this one “on assignment”!! lol

    • /www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo&eurl trixta

      If Mathews is indeed running for Senate next term, what state would it be for? Pennsylvania?

      Regardless of the state, I will make sure to send $ to fund his opponent. I hope some reporters start vetting him as soon as he announces his run.

      • Boxer Mum 06

        If Chris Matthews is interested in running for office (and not be Obama’s Press Secretary which is what I thought he was interested in) it will be in PA probably for the Senate seat Arlen Specter currently holds. With his health issues, there is doubt he would run again.

        Jim Matthews (Chris’s brother) is currently the County Commissioner Chairman (GOP) for Montgomery County (Philly burb) and was recently censured by the GOP for sharing alliance with his Democratic co-Chairman Joe Hoeffel.

        Here is the link if anyone is interested in the other Matthews brother:

        http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local/pa/chester/20081119_Montco_GOP_committee_censures_Matthews.html

      • elise

        trixta I wish someone would donated 1/100 of the amount of money used to investigate the Clintons to investigate Chris Mathews. Hillary and Bill have lived in Pa. Maybe Bill can be pursuaded to run for the same seat. I would love to see that debate.

  • vanroth

    If Obama had anything to use against Hillary with regards to Bill’s Foundation, isn’t it obvious that he would have gleefuly used it by now ? His campaign especially, Axelrod and the smarmy Plouffe were literally scouring the Clinton Library and sending their zealous hacks eveywhere to dig up any dirt that they could find about Bill. And the best that they could come up with was that “Punjab” slur. Plouffe, desparate and vicious to the core, would talk about the Clinton foundation in uncharitable terms during the campaign conference calls but he had nothing, absolutely nothing to back up his lies.

    All this talk about vetting Hillary now is just pure bs. They know that they she still stands tall inspite of them so the best that these vicious haters can do , as they have done in the past, is to just spread innuendo and try their best to make something stick.

    • elise

      She will Rise and Rise again. Mathews got his attitude from Tim Russert (RIP,not). Russert was a sexist and had a sick obsession against Hillary. I would like to see her as sec of state. It is a position with more gravatas than any office other than the presidenct. Kissinger was given as much credit as Nixon for the restoration of diplomatic relations with China and no blame for Vietnam.

  • TakeBackGameNite

    if there is a woman on the rise – he will make it his job to minimize her.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82qCwLX9piE Woman Voter

      He sees it as his duty.

    • oowawa

      if there is a woman on the rise – he will make it his job to minimize her.

      It makes me wonder about how his articulate and accomplished wife, Kathleen Matthews, who was a journalist for a long time, deals with Tweety’s misogyny, not to mention his man-love of O and his mission of ensuring his presidency is a success. They have been married since 1980, and from what I have seen of her on TV, she outclasses her husband in every respect.

      • Strawberrybitch

        Anti-depressants and Jack Daniels? Oh and her hot, barely clad, pool boy.

      • NoBamaNoWay

        my question, as well. i have to believe than any woman who puts up with that shit simply has no self-respect what-so-ever, and probably very low self esteem. maybe she thinks she can’t do any better or can’t make it on her own. she should really be embarrassed for putting up with and enabling CM’s shit. she’s not doing women any favors, that’s for sure.

  • FenelonSpoke

    We can’t really take Hitchens comemnts as “The Sermon on The Mount” as he is a militant Atheist. ;^) I don’t have a problem with Atheists, but Hitchens is overly impressed with himself, is (as you said) terribly misogynistic, often sounds like he has been boozing it up when he has interviews, and is a bully.

  • Baba Rum Raisin

    >>> Funny, I thought he fancied himself a journalist, even a pundit – not a cheerleader.

    Ah, There’s the Rub: He Fancies Himself!

  • workingclass artist

    Hilarious…But then again the “Albino” Saint of BS…usually is…Can’t wait to see him go down in flames whilst seeking political office…

  • Leisa

    Great post, Ani!

    We must find a way to eradicate these vile, sexist men from any position of “esteemed” public discourse. I would not even call them sir. They have no decency when it comes to Hillary Clinton or other accomplished women.

    As much as I see Hillary being a major asset as SoS, I hope she stays in the Senate. I just feel as if Obama will make that job impossible for her. He will use it to destroy her, by keeping his “enemy” close. We saw how this fund raising Juggernaut did practically NOTHING to help Hillary pay off her debt.

    If Hillary stays in the Senate, it will enable her to continue to do her good works and build coalitions to help with domestic and foreign policy.

    I hope this SoS floater is just another ploy of Obama to craft an image. The MSM hastily puts anything out that makes it look as if Obama will cure all once in he is in office. The propaganda’s propping of Obama continues, that is why NQ is needed now more than ever.

    • DAB

      I think that he may be playing Lucy with the football.

      • TexasMirth

        DAB-my thinking, too.

      • Karma

        LOL

  • hadenough

    Well, no, Mr. Hitchens, the only ludicrous embarrassment here is you, sir.

    hitchens is not qualified to standing on a corner holding a cardboard sign with ‘The end is near’ crayoned on it. Why is he working for Vanity Fair?

    • beebop

      Because neither of them is very relevant? Just a thought …..

  • Cat in NJ

    I always thought Hitchens should have been tied down to that water board for a few seconds longer.

  • TexasMirth

    Didn’t Hitchens bash Mother Theresa after her death?
    Ani- “Misogyny Square, Hypocrisy Cubed” — great title!

  • Mercedes

    I really don’t know who is more repulsive, Chris Matthews or Christopher Hitchens.

    Not long ago, I was curious to know why anybody should care what Christopher Hitchens thought about anything. So I checked him out on Wikipedia.

    Upon reading his biography, I immediately thought of Arianna Huffington. Both of them seem to have switched their political/intellectual allegiances back and forth at different times during their lives. It does not appear, in either case, to be a refinement of their ideas and beliefs from time to time, but a convenient repudiation.

    Good advice. Don’t listen to Matthews, or Hitchens, or Huffington while you are eating.

    • Ani

      Good point — they do reverse their political leanings by taking the current temperature – much like BO.

  • Sassy

    More and more I get the feeling that many insiders expect a severe economic downturn.
    If so, the Barack and Biden Circus will be leaving town in 2012!
    Senator Clinton will be risking a long tenure in the Senate, representing one of the largest contituencies in the country, for a position that may be short term.
    The Democrats have held the House and Senate for two years, and in two more years, they had better produce a strategy for this country, or else!
    Many are making a mistake by attaching “journalist” to these show-boaters, whose only qualification is their ability to speak without coming up for air!

  • snosandy

    Christopher Hitchens is a poor excuse for a human being. I actually saw that exchange on Chris Matthews (I hadn’t watched the show in MONTHS, but turned it on knowing he would be talking about Hillary as SoS). I have never seen such vitriol aimed at another human being. I screamed at my tv when he said that she was the woman who played the race card on Barack Obama. The Obama campaign was the only ones playing the race card!

    If Hillary had been named as VP their would have been continuous insults thrown at her, but I think as SoS she will finally get the respect she deserves. The White House was Obama’s prize, but Hillary could have the whole world as her stage.

    • snosandy

      Arghh, excuse my grammatical errors in the above, it’s too early here on the west coast and I haven’t had enough coffee yet. (I sure wish there was an edit button here).

  • TexasMirth

    Now that Hillary’s name has been floated as SoS, anybody else will seem like a pale second. She is the best choice for the job, and for America’s sake, I hope she is the next SoS, but it would surprise me. I just can’t see Obama bringing her in to HIS cabinet.

    • lark

      He should have offered the position to Richardson and be finished. He has what it takes and he can do what needs to be done. Hillary will be one problem after the other and with her wide smile like Condoleezza’s smiling face she will hardly get anything done.

      • Ani

        Richardson can barely find a coherent paragraph with two hands. Diplomacy? Bite? Doubt it. He is not particularly adept at the world stage.

        Why do you think his campaign did so damned poorly. I disagree with you, he is not a good choice.

        • Ani

          Furthermore, when questioned on TV, he could not even find ONE coherent reason why he was supporting BO — not one.,

          “Gee, I don’t know, there’s just something special about they guy.”

          Yes, that is really what Richardson, the diplomatic world leader, said.

  • DAB

    Regarding the Matthews “toe sucking” comment, he had better watch out, because if you recall early on in the Primary season Michelle let on that Obama’s feet are really quite (her word) “smelly”

    I happened to see that particular interview even though I rarely venture into MSNBC enemy territory and was struck by how Matthews seemed to be turning red and ready to bust a gut. His hatred of the Clintons was palpable and he doesn’t seem at all embarrassed to let everyone know it. If he decides to run for Senate, I think that No Quarterites/PUMAs should do everything they can to make certain that it doesn’t happen.

    As for Hitchens, he once wrote an “expose” about the scandals surrounding Mother Theresa’s so you can just about discount anything he says. As for Beinert, I agree that he provided a gracious voice of reason among all the vitriol. Wonder if he’ll ever be asked back?

    Ani, your vent hits all the right points and I applaud you for putting it together at a time when we are all so weary of this whole sordid scenario.

  • AnninCA

    Good piece….thanks.

    There’s another interesting article on RCP this morning regarding the step backwards women took this year. Fewer governors, fewer senators, etc., and it cites a fascinating story that shows that the same problems face ALL women candidates.

    Standards are higher, competency is judged far more severely, likeability is required, etc.

    So the notion that it’s about THIS woman or THAT woman is just baloney.

    It’s just that America isn’t ready for women in power.

    • lark

      Albright did pretty good.

  • OhioMary

    Thank you for the post. I also saw that interview and and thought Beinert did a good job of rebuttal. Hitchens came across to me as mean and vindictive (and by the way, what is up with his hair!). I used to watch MSNBC all the time and especially liked Hardball, but now I can’t stand them.

    I only caught this interview, because I wanted to see what they were saying about Hillary as SOS.

    This is a little OT, but the Supreme Court is going to review Obama’s BC issue on Dec 5 in a closed meeting of all justices. Saw it on The Obama File. Here is the link. Is it even possible that he could be found to be not natural born by the SCOTUS? Wonder what Matthews leg would do then?

    http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm

    • NoBamaNoWay

      if the SC blows this off, america is officially dead. the constitution is dead and the rule of law is dead. we will be nothing but subjects of the aristocracy, not citizens of a republic.

  • lightacandle

    One of the last times I wrote to Maureen Dowd asking her why she felt such a need to constantly trash Hillary Clinton, she responded with the most amazing reason.

    Dowd said, “It’s just business.”

    Now, you have to think about that when you rail against the media whores as if they were the least bit interested in being fair or even rational.

    It’s BUSINESS to them.

    The worst of them — Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann — are MSNBC’s top money makers.

    They are given salaries that reflect the amount of advertising dollars they bring in to the network.

    Unless and until we deal with the ECONOMICS of disrespecting women, we will never see an end to it.

    Trashing women is GOOD for business.

    • DAB

      I do believe that Matthews and Olbermann really feel what they are saying, either that or they are terrific actors. It also seems that at some point, MSNBC started receiving so many complaints that they just decided to chuck objectivity and go with their own personal niche catering to Obamabots — sort of like Fox but on the other side and on steroids.

      Of course, in the meantime they have become a laughing stock and the butt of many jokes, but they don’t seem to care. They just keep on chugging along hoping that their ratings will hold.

      P.S. Someone not mentioned in Ani’s article but who deserves dishonorable mention as well is David Shuster who will unhesitatingly argue Obama’s side whenever someone makes a negative comment about him as if he were an advocate spokesperson for the campaign rather than an interviewer.

      • DawnelleTIREDofSPIN

        yes Schuster is a HUGEEEEEEEEEE TRAITOR!
        He’s an OBORG! The MOST treacherous!

        I really won’t forgive any of them at MSNBO for their blatant hypocrisy.

        I actually feel SORRY FOR Pat Buchanan being STUCK OVER there with those amateur posers & hacks!

        And for ME to defend Pat is hilarious all by itself but it’s the damn truth! At least we all KNOW who and what PAT is……………………… he’s not some slimy shape shifting poser wet behind between the ears knees and drooling at the gums HACK!

        • Baba Rum Raisin

          >>> he’s not some slimy shape shifting poser

          This comment slimes perfectly honorable shape shifters, accomplished posers and suggests that they are slimy, which in itself implies that slime (and its associated balls, to wit Slimeballs) are less than honorable.

          Nice work!

    • Ani

      Unless and until we deal with the ECONOMICS of disrespecting women, we will never see an end to it.

      Trashing women is GOOD for business.

      Well said.

    • Boxer Mum 06

      A few months back, I started listening to Laura Ingraham. I did a wiki search on her and almost fell off my chair. It said she used to date Keith Olbermann. Are all these talking heads just whores for advertisers? They will anything to make a buck!

      Ingraham once was engaged to conservative author and fellow Dartmouth alumnus Dinesh D’Souza and has dated former New Jersey Democratic Senator Robert Torricelli [9] as well as MSNBC host Keith Olbermann.[10]

  • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    Great post, Ani. And thanks for watching these guys so the rest of us don’t have to lose our suppers. You have gone above and beyond. Thanks!

  • http://budwhite.wordpress.com/ Bud White

    I will never forgive this or forget it.

    You are right, Ani. What Obama did to the Clintons is not forgivable.

    • Ani

      And yet so many in the media act like they deserve it…

      As Hillary said:
      “What didn’t they like, the peace or the prosperity.”

      • AnninCA

        That was a great one-liner, but Bill did absolutely blow it. (*haha..)

  • http://ontheseventhday.wordpress.com/ Al

    It’s way past time that women should be given the RESPECT they deserve in our society from all walks of life. Enough with sexism!!!

  • scorbs

    I think I read somewhere that MSNBC is in third place but still had huge numbers during the election season. They were up by something like a million viewers. So as long as that’s the case, these buffoons will continue to get network support.

    The question is, who the heck is watching them? Don’t viewers see how tasteless and coarse and buffoonish/blustery Matthews is?

    I read somewhere, and it may be just a rumor, that Matthews had some contact with Hillary when they were both on the Hill during the Nixon impeachment hearings and as such he feels he has some ownership over her. She may have spurned his advances, so that’s spiked his discussions of her.

    I’m sure Matthews believes what he says about Clintons, but why a network pays him millions of dollars to say it, is unexplaionable. He possesses such a low crude sensibility.

  • standard

    Matthews has ben stalking Clinton.
    Around 5 or 6 years ago I watched a Hardball show where Matthews
    sat with 4 guests, doing nothing but ridiculing Hillary Clinton.
    The guests were falling all over themselves sucking up to Matthews
    (so they would be invited back.)
    This man is a real creep.

    Of course, liberals figured that out when he let Kerry get swiftboated
    night after night on his show.

    • Ani

      She spurned his advances long ago, as was mentioned by scorbs above, that is why he behaves this way toward her.

    • /www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo&eurl trixta

      Mathews also praised GWB and carried his water for him for years when it came to the war in Iraq. Now that he’s found another love object in Obama, he’s been free to criticize GWB–finally!.

  • scorbs

    Ani, by the way, great piece — succinct, sharp as usual.

  • pa voter

    Wow! I do not watch MSNBC at all anymore but I happened to see that sickening “discussion” (except for Beinhart’s part), as my husband had it on, and you captured it to a T, Ani. (I’m trying to wean my husband off MSNBC and it’s slowly working.) MG, you captured this exchange well.

    I worry about HRC taking the SoS position too but I’m waiting to see what she decides. I expect she’ll put our country first whichever way she goes on it.

    I also remember Matthews comment about it being Michelle’s fault that Obama sat in that church all those years. You are sooo right on that, so very right.

    Great post!

    • AnninCA

      MSN reminds me of Talk Radio, but just the flip side. It appeals to those who prefer not to have their opinions challenged.

      I rather agree with O’Reilly today that the so-called Fairness Doctrine return would put MSN right out of business. :)

  • ObamaNOT

    On December 5, 2008, only ten days before the electoral college votes, the nine Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will meet in private to review Obama’s citizenship status.

    Leo Donofrio’s case, “Leo C. Donofrio, v. Nina Mitchell Wells, Secretary of State of the State of New Jersey, United States Supreme Court Docket No. 08A407,” regarding Obama’s citizenship has reached a new level. The case has been “distributed for conference.”

    This docketing today by the court should send ripples of fear through the Obama camp. Obama has been proceeding at lightening speed to put together a cabinet and take possession of the White House with the hope that he won’t have to answer the question of whether or not he was “at birth” a “natural born citizen.”

    Every major news network, print and cable news like FOX, CNN and MSNBC, have ignored all the court cases challenging Obama’s eligibility as sore losers or conspiracy theories. It might be in their best interest at this point to report this critically important meeting to take place on December 5, 2008, or lose what little credibility they have left.

    If four of the nine Justices vote to hear the case in full review, oral argument may be ordered. The conference is scheduled for December 5, 2008, ten days before the meeting of the Electoral College…

    The case originally sought, pre-election, to have the names of Barack Obama, John McCain, and Roger Calero removed from New Jersey ballots, and for a stay of the “national election” pending Supreme Court review of whether those candidates were eligible under the Constitution as natural born Citizens, as is required by Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States.

    Leo Donofrio brought his case from a lower New Jersey court to the NJ Supreme Court — was denied — and then he filed an emergency stay application in the United States Supreme Court on Nov. 3, 2008, before the Honorable Associate Justice David Souter. Justice Souter denied the emergency stay application on Nov. 6.

    Leo Donofrio renewed the application, as per Supreme Court Rule 22.4, to the Honorable Associate Justice Clarence Thomas by way of Express mail on Nov. 14. The application arrived at the Supreme Court on Nov. 17 and was submitted directly to Justice Thomas.

    On Nov. 19, the case was docketed for full conference of all nine Justices and scheduled for December 5, 2008. It is not known at this time the exact details of how the case came to be “DISTRIBUTED for Conference”.

    Background on “The Justices Conference” is discussed as follows by the Supreme Court Historical Society:

    “No outsider enters the room during conference. The junior Associate Justice acts as “doorkeeper,” sending for reference material, for instance, and receiving it at the door…

    Five minutes before conference time, 9:30 or 10 a.m., the Justices are summoned. They exchange ritual handshakes and settle down at the long table. The Chief sits at the east end; the other Justices sit at places they have chosen in order of their seniority…

    The Chief Justice opens the discussion, summarizing each case. The senior Associate Justice speaks next, and comment passes down the line. To be accepted for review, a case needs only four votes, fewer than the majority required for a decision on the case itself. Counsel for the litigants are directed to submit their printed briefs so that each Justice has a set several weeks before argument.

    • NoBamaNoWay

      sadly, i think this is just a formality that the SC is going through to give the appearance that they take our constitution seriously. they will not force hussein O to comply with the constitution. surprise.

  • MrMike

    What Senate seat is Matthews eying? I had thought the toe sucking was hip application for the job of Press Secretary. Same for that twit Markos and the pandering Marshal.
    In fact there was a rumor going around that Matthew’s hatred of all things Clinton was due in part to being rejected as Bill’s Press Secretary.
    Like you, I feel that Hillary should run, not walk away from this offer of SOS.
    That being said it seems the drama is in the announcement then dragging it out. Did it take this long to come to a decision about Rahm Emanuel?

    • College Educated for Hillary

      Pennsylvania, his home state.

  • Tess

    The news I’m coming across today says Bill is going to Help Hillary Get The Job, apparently by “limiting his overseas contacts”.
    I’d like to think The Big Dawg is craftier than the Chicago Thug. I think The One wants Bill’s Rolodex.

    NO Boor-ack

  • AnninCA

    I’m coming to the conclusion that the issue is far deeper than I expected.

    The dual standard for women in political positions is just too obvious, which speaks to a cultural bias that we’ve yet to vanquish.

    Personally, I have some notions as to why this might be the case, and it probably has a lot to do with being the ones to do the nagging and scolding of children to get them raised. That’s a habit many women MUST develop to fulfill their obligations. Men, I always thought, got to skate on that one. No wonder, then, the *itch* label is so easily slapped on women.

    Competing for the “good men” is another issue, and that leads to overt use of sexuality to influence as well as to ongoing competition with any other woman. As we saw this year, the supposed woman’s coalition fell apart as soon as a woman was actually offered. They ran like chickens, just as Brazille predicted. Too bad she was right.

    I think society’s viewpoint will change only when some of the basic roles change.

    In short, one step forward would be the refuse to be the only parent who nags about going to the dentist. This sounds silly, of course, but there’s an underlying truth here.

    It ain’t about who just does the cooking at home.

    • /www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo&eurl trixta

      The good news is that HRC had great support from men across the board, but especially from working-class white males. I think this is encouraging, especially since the polls had been showing more resistance toward a woman as POTUS than to an “African American” male.

      • AnninCA

        I’m afraid that’s long been the case.

        It’s women who are the problem.

        • Seattle Moss

          Very disappointing!!

          For us guys to bleed our hearts out for two women candidates while at the same time realizing that many women won’t do the same.

          • AnninCA

            *hehe* That’s because men know the truth. They live with us. :)

        • sarahb

          I don’t think this is true.

          Men could share their power with women any time they wanted to but they refuse to. On other hand no amount of pressure and complaints from women make men change their ways. It’s not surprising that some women give up and stick with the status quo.

          Men are the problem for us, not other women.

          • Ani

            You know what — women share the blame here, too. Check the cross tabs and numbers of voters in the primaries. It is shocking how many women with no good reason abandoned the eminently qualified woman for her younger, male, far less qualified colleague — the excuses they gave for doing so were pretty ludicrous.

            Of course, Barky used caucus fraud plenty — but there were many regularly states voting where women could have made the difference so that no amount of his cheating would have mattered.

          • Ani

            You know what — women share the blame here, too. Check the cross tabs and numbers of voters in the primaries. It is shocking how many women with no good reason abandoned the eminently qualified woman for her younger, male, far less qualified colleague — the excuses they gave for doing so were pretty ludicrous.

            Of course, Barky used caucus fraud plenty — but there were many regular states voting where women could have made the difference so that no amount of his cheating would have mattered.

  • lightacandle

    Shirley Chisholm, the first black woman to serve in Congress and the first woman to seek the Democratic presidential nomination, said “I’ve always met more discrimination being a woman than being black,”

    The feisty Chisholm also put it this way: “being female put more obstacles in my path than being black.”

    I’m not sure which is the more accurate version of the quote but maybe both are correct, since I am sure Shirley Chisholm spoke about this issue more than once.

    So, keeping Shirley Chisholm’s observations in mind, I ask you to ponder this question: Would Arnold Schwarzenegger ever have been elected governor of California, the state with the largest population, if he had been a woman?

    Arnold — or let’s call him Agnes — had NO political experience, had never run for or held any public office before, had posed naked for photographs that showed up online during his campaign … but that didn’t seem to faze the media boys and girls … nor did the FACT that Arnold had posed for studio photographs with a large-breasted naked woman sitting on his shoulders.

    (Yet, it truly seemed to inflame SOME people that Sarah Palin had once entered a beauty contest dressed in a demure one-piece bathing suit, hoping to win scholarship money so she could complete her college education. )

    Those photos of the naked Arnold with the naked woman on his shoulders were widely available on the Internet before Arnold was elected. Imagine if a woman running for office had posed nude; do you think she would have been elected to anything? We would have heard howls about morals and “what will we tell the children?”

    Arnold had also been accused by many women of fondling them against their wishes … the uproar became so loud his wife finally had to come forward to defend him as a “good” person.

    Arnold KNEW the women who had accused him were on firm ground, and so he apologized to all the many women he had fondled against their wishes.

    STILL, the voters had NO problem electing Arnold governor and, then, touting him for the U.S. presidency — if we would just amend the Constitution to make that event possible.

    In his first two years as Calif. governor, Arnold managed to anger just about every group that wasn’t representing Big Business, but finally had to change his ways and alter his policies when the turmoil grew to be too great.

    But NONE of that kept the media and many voters from saying we should change the U.S. Constitution, so Arnold could run for president — and they were sure he’d be a shoo-in, since he had won the Calif. election so easily.

    Well, after a few years with Arnold as governor, Calif. is on the brink of bankruptcy and is hoping to get a BAILOUT from the federal government.

    On the other hand, Gov, Sarah Palin has been governor of Alaska for almost two years, and Alaska is doing fine.

    But NONE of those facts kept the media goons and many other people from persistently holding Sarah Palin to a different standard than Arnold, ridiculing her and accusing her of saying and doing things she NEVER said or did.

    I was at a meeting recently where someone started ranting that Palin had tried to “burn” books to “keep people from reading them.” Sarah Palin NEVER asked the Wasilla librarian to ban ANY books and, in fact, that librarian has stated that she was NEVER asked to ban any books. The topic had first come up at a PUBLIC Wasilla Council meeting and Palin had asked a rhetorical question during the discussion. The question was NOT a secret and the issue was written about in the newspapers that covered that Wasilla Council meeting. The whole issue is a CROCK and was exaggerated to make Palin look bad.

    But with Arnold Schwarzenegger, it seems he could do any OBNOXIOUS thing and the cheers would go on and on and on … because he is not Agnes Schwarzenegger (who would have been laughed off the public scene if she had run with Arnold’s non-existent political resume) … he is Arnold, so everything is hunky-dory.

    • Ani

      Thank you so much for your post, lightacandle. Yes, it is absolutely miraculous that Arnold could get elected twice.

      We live in an “American Idol” society.

      The ugly secret of misogyny was very clearly revealed this year — and it is not going away.

      • Baba Rum Raisin

        The Golden State has a distinguished record of electing fools and asses Governor.

        Why stop when you’re on a roll?

  • TexasMirth

    STILL, the voters had NO problem electing Arnold governor

    Isn’t that the same behavior we just witnessed with the election of Obama? All the dirt and evidence and past associations (even having an aunt breaking the law by living here illegally on taxpayers’ dollars in a Boston housing project) -all that was out there – and the crowds continued to swoon and chant a meaningless mantra and in the end, voted the guy in to office. Chris Matthews and the MSNBC gang knew all the questionable details about Obama, and still they gushed with adoration. It defies understanding.

  • oowawa

    and the crowds continued to swoon and chant a meaningless mantra

    Lovely writing. “And still they gushed with adoration.” More than any other factor, this is what changed me from a lifelong Democrat to a PUMA-Independent. I suppose I should thank Tweety and Herr Olbermann for my transformation.

  • Carol

    Hitchens was on CNN last night. (Larry King?) I don’t watch CNN anymore so I didn’t catch it, just surfing by, Hitchens seemed rabid about Clinton as usual.

    Media keeps saying Clinton is a ‘drama’ though there is nothing coming from the Clinton’s and the Clinton camp says the people who were leakers during the primary have been kicked to the curb. The drama is coming from the media and disgruntly staffers on both sides that have nothing to do with Obama nor Clinton.

    • Carol

      Also, Kerry is chairing the Senate Foreign Relations committee which means he’s out of the running for SoS, so I expect Hitchens and his ilk will continue to be trotted out. Can’t believe Obama would pick Richardson.

  • HC

    Nice Post. I used to like Hitchens when he was writing about athieism. Now I think he is a jerk. If I see Mr. Matthews he had better cross the street.

    I feel it will never be “the right woman” for America.

    I just had a girls night out and it was all either Palin haters or Clinton haters or (my favorite) both.

    “Not the right woman” was the mantra, with little by way of facts or reasons. Just various ad hominem attacks, some not even true.

    All of these woman claimed to be feminists, whatever that means these days.

    Feminists against women, heck, just women against women boggles my mind. Why do we have to hate eachother so much? Thats what I asked as I picked up the check and walked out.

    I have had enough!

  • I’m a Linda too

    “sucking his toes”, yes, Mr. Tingle Matthews, along with Keithie, sound like they belong to a special club for Boys with O-shit! And their actions are quite unusual and very sexual.

    And, Matthews acts like either a jealous person in protecting O-shit, or, small dog syndrome. He become irrational and rabid when confronted by someone superior than him. Funny, it must happen all the time then. Or is it WOMEN…again, possibly giving a hint at his other problem.

    Again, projecting here. The only DRAMA coming out is (oops, a slip, coming out-still in)is the DRAMA around CHRIS MATTHEWS. Just like what someone reported on Mr. Tingle’s train ride this past weekend to DC from Phili when he awoke after snoring loudly when another person asked about the talks of Hillary becoming SOS and he FREAKED (more drama from the Queen, or just b!tchy) about what kind of change is this from O-shit!

    And Hitchens, you MUST feel sorry for. He was SO out of the spotlight after backing and pushing W these past years. He was so desperate for attention he even endorsed Al Gore to run for president. Jumping on what appeals to him most, the Narcissist and Misogynist Wagon, he hopped on the Hopey train and is just thrilled with the opportunity Mr. Tingle gave him to trash a powerful woman, Hillary. Did you notice how he can say anything without changing his facial muscles. Peter pointed out his false claims and hypocrisy, but Chrissy just continued unphased just saying anything. Trying to find a way to fit in as many insults and accusations he could before his time ran out. And, after all, Chrissy (lover number one) showed long ago, that’s what his show is, just able to say anything without facts or truth, that he sees is his duty to do and say anything for O-shit!’s benefit.

    I’m beginning to wonder about these fellows. They get tingles for all the wrong reasons. (wink, wink)

  • ritamary

    Obama gets the smart people like Hillary to do the hard work for him so he can be getting ready for the 2012 election. Hasn’t this been his pattern all along?

    • Ani

      Yes. And people feel blackmailed into supporting him — if they do not, the country falls into the toilet. Since he cannot provide leadership, someone else will feel obligated to step up to the plate.

  • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Great post Ani! It makes me SO mad, those two blathering dunces. Is Hitchens always wasted? I noticed he had a red keg cup in his hand… and he always seems tossed. haha UGH

  • AnninCA

    Here’s the article I referred to earlier:

    Good read on this topic.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/11/the_glass_ceiling_holds_strong.html

    • Ani

      I was going to ask you for this — thank you so much for posting the link, AnninCA.

  • David and Karen

    http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/

    Stop the Obama Constitutional Crisis Sign the Petition : 109,490 Letters and Emails Sent So Far

    Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution reads: “No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.”

    There are numerous questions as to Obama’s citizen status raising suspicion and doubt about Obama constitutional qualification to be president. To settle these questions Mr. Obama must produce proof of citizenship!

    Documents that must be produced include;
    (a) a certified copy of “vault” (original long version) birth certificate;
    (b) certified copies of all reissued and sealed birth certificates in the names Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham and Barry Dunham;
    (c) a certified copy Certification of Citizenship;
    (d) a certified copy Oath of Allegiance taken upon age of maturity;
    (e) certified copies of admission forms for Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School; and
    (f) certified copies of any court orders or legal documents changing his name from Barry Soetoro.

    It is reasonable that these documents should be produced considering that his father is Kenyan, his adoptive father is Indonesian, and his grandmother claims to have been present at his birth in Kenya. If he is a natural born citizen then producing these documents should not be any problem.

    These allegations will not go away until Mr. Obama produces proof to federal authorities and the public. If he will not do so voluntarily he must be compelled by every means available. You, as an employee of The People, have sworn an oath to support and defend the Constitution.

    We The People are demanding you to make every effort, both public and private, to resolve this fundamental Constitutional question before 20 January.
    ————————

    http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/

    Please take the time to think long and hard about the vote for President. The eviedence as I see it is strong proof that Obama should not be President, he can not legally be so. Until and unless he complies with the lawsuits and submits the required information and it is verified as per the lawsuits. It is hasn’t even been proven that he was vetted by the Democratic Party.

    From my research, and the evidence that I have seen on Attny Bergs site, we very well could be in grave danger if Obama is made president. I am not sure we aren’t already being put in jeapordy by the amount of top secret information being given to him at this point.

    Another thing you need to consider, if you or I had any association with Bill Ayers, and others that Obama has associated himself with, not to mention his family ties to terrorists in Kenya, (his cousin is up on charges for genecide in regards to terrorist actions) would we get security clearance with the FBI? I don’t think so. So how is it that he has access to all this top secret information?

    Something else that you might consider, everytime it looked as if Senator McCain was closing in on Obama in the polls the stock market would gain ground, especially the days prior to and including election day the market was climbing. The day after and ever since the markets have plunged downward. This is an indication that the people are not comfortable with the future of our country with the outcome of the election.
    In the past when the election was over the markets pretty much became stable, that is not the case this time. I do believe had the outcome been a McCain/Palin win, we would not be seeing the constant down turn we are seeing now.

    There are people like my mom that has 1/2 to 3/4 of their retirement tied up with the stock market. When my dad died, she had no clue about the market, she still doesn’t, she thinks it will recover because it has in the past. She will not live long enough to see it come back. I tried to get her to pull out a long time ago, at least most of it but she thought it was safe because it is where dad put it, but as I explained to her he is not here to control it. If this market keeps going she will be wiped out.
    How many other elderly people are in this boat? You have the ability to stop the bleeding if your vote were to go McCain/Palin because America has more faith in that ticket.

    There is evidence coming out that a lot of people that voted for Obama did so for other reasons than he is best for the job. Fox News interviewed some people that voted for Obama, when asked about his policies couldn’t tell you one, when asked what they new about McCain/Palin they could tell some of the negative press, when asked what good things Obama would do, they had no answers.

    There was a radio personality, Howard Stern, who had someone on his staff go to Harlem to ask people who they were voting for and most said Obama, when asked if it was by race they said no. (This was a test to see how much these people new about the candidate they were voting for.) However, when they were asked about his running mate Sarah Palin they thought she was a great choice, when asked about his policy to stay in Iraq until the job was finished and Iraq is stable, they agreed we must do that. We all know that that Sarah was Senator McCains running mate, and staying in Iraq was Senator McCains plan.

    There were people interviewed after Obama rallies and leaving the polling places that were elated because they said they will never have to pay for rent/mortgages, groceries, or gasoline ever again. Did I miss something, I never heard that. Can you imagine the riots that will ensue when these people realized that is not the case. These people will be out for his hide.

    I have already hear of people already refusing to pay rent because he won the election on Nov. 4, saying they no longer have to because Obama won.

    Something that came out just days before the elections, was a statement from Barnie Frank, saying that when Obama gets in office, all IRA’s, 401K’s and Pensions that are still out there will be mandated to go into the Social Security Fund. If this happens you will have even more of a Riot from those who have these. This is our retirement, we worked hard to earn, and save these benefits and we are suppose to put these into a fund that these people can squander. IRA’s and 40lK’s are basically retirement savings accounts, as such we can make our children beneficiaries of these upon our death. In the SS fund they are lost to our heirs.

    One more thing that you should take into consideration. The popular vote that came out in Obamas favor, how much of it was due to illegal votes, voter fraud? I have never seen such nonsense be over looked by the Supreme Court, there were over 30,000 cases in just two counties alone caught before Nov 4 in Indiana, there were over 15,000 and counting in WI when the task force was pulled off the case, we know there was voter fraud in OH that the Supreme Court refused to have cleared up. If you add those numbers up over the number of counties per state, then multiply that by number of states, can you imagine just how many fraudulent votes were in the system.
    The Supreme Court already made a decision to ignore our Constitutional Rights, they refused to get to the truth.

    I will take it one step further, I saw a video on Fox News where (Sen.) Maxine Waters
    (CA) pleading with ACORN, at an ACORN Rally, to make sure Obama wins no matter what they have to do. This adds more doubt to the credibility of the legitimacy of the new voters that voted in this election. We know there were ACORN registration problems in just about every state. Lets not forget that some of these workers were trained by Obama, and his campaign gave them a sustantial payment, purpose is questionable. Until this year I don’t ever recall hearing about this organization.

    There is a lot at stake. Your decision is probably the most important one you have made to this point. Our lives, our futures, our retirement savings, our childrens futures, the security of our country, and much more are all in your hands, the vote you are about to make will shape the future of this country. If you make the wrong choice, there may not be anyway to turn it around in 4 years. An election in 4 years may be too late to reverse the damage done. Will you be able to live with yourselves if the evidence that Attorneys of the 70 lawsuits has is in fact the real truth, and you vote for him anyway. We are asking you not to ignore the peoples plea to do the right thing, protect us and our Constitution.
    I would ask that you take time to read the eveidence in Bergs case at obamacrimes.com, a part of that is about the Constitution and the ramifications if the person elected to office that is not an Natural American Citizen. The part where he would not be eligiable to be Commander in Chief, that the military taking orders from him could be brought up on war crimes. There are other very important problems that would also arise.

    this is an outrage i cant even find ajob as a truck driver because of a minor accident in my past records and this fraud obama is president elect whos in charge of checking backrounds for the highest office in the land this is a conspiracy to get him in evil forces are at work wake up america!

    http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/

    • AnninCA

      All this rant based on some unsubstantiated story about his birth place?

      Oh good grief.

      • David and Karen-If we don’t who willi

        No it’s not.I as well saw the tape of Obama’a grandma saying she was there when Obama was born in Kenyan (She named the hospital in Kenyan) And if you want to take this lighly then so be it! Why does Obama not show it? Why does DNC file motions.Hello wake the hell up!

  • David and Karen

    As well as contatct your states colleges electrol votes.Send the letter to them have them not to vote till his birth certificate and other documents are shown.What is he hideing???

  • David and Karen-If we don’t who willi

    Stop the Obama Constitutional Crisis Sign the Petition : 109,490 Letters and Emails Sent So Far

    Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution reads: “No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.”

    There are numerous questions as to Obama’s citizen status raising suspicion and doubt about Obama constitutional qualification to be president. To settle these questions Mr. Obama must produce proof of citizenship!

    Documents that must be produced include;
    (a) a certified copy of “vault” (original long version) birth certificate;
    (b) certified copies of all reissued and sealed birth certificates in the names Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham and Barry Dunham;
    (c) a certified copy Certification of Citizenship;
    (d) a certified copy Oath of Allegiance taken upon age of maturity;
    (e) certified copies of admission forms for Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School; and
    (f) certified copies of any court orders or legal documents changing his name from Barry Soetoro.

    It is reasonable that these documents should be produced considering that his father is Kenyan, his adoptive father is Indonesian, and his grandmother claims to have been present at his birth in Kenya. If he is a natural born citizen then producing these documents should not be any problem.

    These allegations will not go away until Mr. Obama produces proof to federal authorities and the public. If he will not do so voluntarily he must be compelled by every means available. You, as an employee of The People, have sworn an oath to support and defend the Constitution.

    We The People are demanding you to make every effort, both public and private, to resolve this fundamental Constitutional question before 20 January.
    ————————

    http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/

    Please take the time to think long and hard about the vote for President. The eviedence as I see it is strong proof that Obama should not be President, he can not legally be so. Until and unless he complies with the lawsuits and submits the required information and it is verified as per the lawsuits. It is hasn’t even been proven that he was vetted by the Democratic Party.

    From my research, and the evidence that I have seen on Attny Bergs site, we very well could be in grave danger if Obama is made president. I am not sure we aren’t already being put in jeapordy by the amount of top secret information being given to him at this point.

    Another thing you need to consider, if you or I had any association with Bill Ayers, and others that Obama has associated himself with, not to mention his family ties to terrorists in Kenya, (his cousin is up on charges for genecide in regards to terrorist actions) would we get security clearance with the FBI? I don’t think so. So how is it that he has access to all this top secret information?

    Something else that you might consider, everytime it looked as if Senator McCain was closing in on Obama in the polls the stock market would gain ground, especially the days prior to and including election day the market was climbing. The day after and ever since the markets have plunged downward. This is an indication that the people are not comfortable with the future of our country with the outcome of the election.
    In the past when the election was over the markets pretty much became stable, that is not the case this time. I do believe had the outcome been a McCain/Palin win, we would not be seeing the constant down turn we are seeing now.

    There are people like my mom that has 1/2 to 3/4 of their retirement tied up with the stock market. When my dad died, she had no clue about the market, she still doesn’t, she thinks it will recover because it has in the past. She will not live long enough to see it come back. I tried to get her to pull out a long time ago, at least most of it but she thought it was safe because it is where dad put it, but as I explained to her he is not here to control it. If this market keeps going she will be wiped out.
    How many other elderly people are in this boat? You have the ability to stop the bleeding if your vote were to go McCain/Palin because America has more faith in that ticket.

    There is evidence coming out that a lot of people that voted for Obama did so for other reasons than he is best for the job. Fox News interviewed some people that voted for Obama, when asked about his policies couldn’t tell you one, when asked what they new about McCain/Palin they could tell some of the negative press, when asked what good things Obama would do, they had no answers.

    There was a radio personality, Howard Stern, who had someone on his staff go to Harlem to ask people who they were voting for and most said Obama, when asked if it was by race they said no. (This was a test to see how much these people new about the candidate they were voting for.) However, when they were asked about his running mate Sarah Palin they thought she was a great choice, when asked about his policy to stay in Iraq until the job was finished and Iraq is stable, they agreed we must do that. We all know that that Sarah was Senator McCains running mate, and staying in Iraq was Senator McCains plan.

    There were people interviewed after Obama rallies and leaving the polling places that were elated because they said they will never have to pay for rent/mortgages, groceries, or gasoline ever again. Did I miss something, I never heard that. Can you imagine the riots that will ensue when these people realized that is not the case. These people will be out for his hide.

    I have already hear of people already refusing to pay rent because he won the election on Nov. 4, saying they no longer have to because Obama won.

    Something that came out just days before the elections, was a statement from Barnie Frank, saying that when Obama gets in office, all IRA’s, 401K’s and Pensions that are still out there will be mandated to go into the Social Security Fund. If this happens you will have even more of a Riot from those who have these. This is our retirement, we worked hard to earn, and save these benefits and we are suppose to put these into a fund that these people can squander. IRA’s and 40lK’s are basically retirement savings accounts, as such we can make our children beneficiaries of these upon our death. In the SS fund they are lost to our heirs.

    One more thing that you should take into consideration. The popular vote that came out in Obamas favor, how much of it was due to illegal votes, voter fraud? I have never seen such nonsense be over looked by the Supreme Court, there were over 30,000 cases in just two counties alone caught before Nov 4 in Indiana, there were over 15,000 and counting in WI when the task force was pulled off the case, we know there was voter fraud in OH that the Supreme Court refused to have cleared up. If you add those numbers up over the number of counties per state, then multiply that by number of states, can you imagine just how many fraudulent votes were in the system.
    The Supreme Court already made a decision to ignore our Constitutional Rights, they refused to get to the truth.

    I will take it one step further, I saw a video on Fox News where (Sen.) Maxine Waters
    (CA) pleading with ACORN, at an ACORN Rally, to make sure Obama wins no matter what they have to do. This adds more doubt to the credibility of the legitimacy of the new voters that voted in this election. We know there were ACORN registration problems in just about every state. Lets not forget that some of these workers were trained by Obama, and his campaign gave them a sustantial payment, purpose is questionable. Until this year I don’t ever recall hearing about this organization.

    There is a lot at stake. Your decision is probably the most important one you have made to this point. Our lives, our futures, our retirement savings, our childrens futures, the security of our country, and much more are all in your hands, the vote you are about to make will shape the future of this country. If you make the wrong choice, there may not be anyway to turn it around in 4 years. An election in 4 years may be too late to reverse the damage done. Will you be able to live with yourselves if the evidence that Attorneys of the 70 lawsuits has is in fact the real truth, and you vote for him anyway. We are asking you not to ignore the peoples plea to do the right thing, protect us and our Constitution.
    I would ask that you take time to read the eveidence in Bergs case at obamacrimes.com, a part of that is about the Constitution and the ramifications if the person elected to office that is not an Natural American Citizen. The part where he would not be eligiable to be Commander in Chief, that the military taking orders from him could be brought up on war crimes. There are other very important problems that would also arise.

    this is an outrage i cant even find ajob as a truck driver because of a minor accident in my past records and this fraud obama is president elect whos in charge of checking backrounds for the highest office in the land this is a conspiracy to get him in evil forces are at work wake up america!

    http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/

  • David and Karen-If we don’t who willi

    Stop the Obama Constitutional Crisis Sign the Petition : 109,490 Letters and Emails Sent So Far

    http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/

    Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution reads: “No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.”

    There are numerous questions as to Obama’s citizen status raising suspicion and doubt about Obama constitutional qualification to be president. To settle these questions Mr. Obama must produce proof of citizenship!

    Documents that must be produced include;
    (a) a certified copy of “vault” (original long version) birth certificate;
    (b) certified copies of all reissued and sealed birth certificates in the names Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham and Barry Dunham;
    (c) a certified copy Certification of Citizenship;
    (d) a certified copy Oath of Allegiance taken upon age of maturity;
    (e) certified copies of admission forms for Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School; and
    (f) certified copies of any court orders or legal documents changing his name from Barry Soetoro.

    It is reasonable that these documents should be produced considering that his father is Kenyan, his adoptive father is Indonesian, and his grandmother claims to have been present at his birth in Kenya. If he is a natural born citizen then producing these documents should not be any problem.

    These allegations will not go away until Mr. Obama produces proof to federal authorities and the public. If he will not do so voluntarily he must be compelled by every means available. You, as an employee of The People, have sworn an oath to support and defend the Constitution.

    We The People are demanding you to make every effort, both public and private, to resolve this fundamental Constitutional question before 20 January.
    ————————

    http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/

    Please take the time to think long and hard about the vote for President. The eviedence as I see it is strong proof that Obama should not be President, he can not legally be so. Until and unless he complies with the lawsuits and submits the required information and it is verified as per the lawsuits. It is hasn’t even been proven that he was vetted by the Democratic Party.

    From my research, and the evidence that I have seen on Attny Bergs site, we very well could be in grave danger if Obama is made president. I am not sure we aren’t already being put in jeapordy by the amount of top secret information being given to him at this point.

    Another thing you need to consider, if you or I had any association with Bill Ayers, and others that Obama has associated himself with, not to mention his family ties to terrorists in Kenya, (his cousin is up on charges for genecide in regards to terrorist actions) would we get security clearance with the FBI? I don’t think so. So how is it that he has access to all this top secret information?

    Something else that you might consider, everytime it looked as if Senator McCain was closing in on Obama in the polls the stock market would gain ground, especially the days prior to and including election day the market was climbing. The day after and ever since the markets have plunged downward. This is an indication that the people are not comfortable with the future of our country with the outcome of the election.
    In the past when the election was over the markets pretty much became stable, that is not the case this time. I do believe had the outcome been a McCain/Palin win, we would not be seeing the constant down turn we are seeing now.

    There are people like my mom that has 1/2 to 3/4 of their retirement tied up with the stock market. When my dad died, she had no clue about the market, she still doesn’t, she thinks it will recover because it has in the past. She will not live long enough to see it come back. I tried to get her to pull out a long time ago, at least most of it but she thought it was safe because it is where dad put it, but as I explained to her he is not here to control it. If this market keeps going she will be wiped out.
    How many other elderly people are in this boat? You have the ability to stop the bleeding if your vote were to go McCain/Palin because America has more faith in that ticket.

    There is evidence coming out that a lot of people that voted for Obama did so for other reasons than he is best for the job. Fox News interviewed some people that voted for Obama, when asked about his policies couldn’t tell you one, when asked what they new about McCain/Palin they could tell some of the negative press, when asked what good things Obama would do, they had no answers.

    There was a radio personality, Howard Stern, who had someone on his staff go to Harlem to ask people who they were voting for and most said Obama, when asked if it was by race they said no. (This was a test to see how much these people new about the candidate they were voting for.) However, when they were asked about his running mate Sarah Palin they thought she was a great choice, when asked about his policy to stay in Iraq until the job was finished and Iraq is stable, they agreed we must do that. We all know that that Sarah was Senator McCains running mate, and staying in Iraq was Senator McCains plan.

    There were people interviewed after Obama rallies and leaving the polling places that were elated because they said they will never have to pay for rent/mortgages, groceries, or gasoline ever again. Did I miss something, I never heard that. Can you imagine the riots that will ensue when these people realized that is not the case. These people will be out for his hide.

    I have already hear of people already refusing to pay rent because he won the election on Nov. 4, saying they no longer have to because Obama won.

    Something that came out just days before the elections, was a statement from Barnie Frank, saying that when Obama gets in office, all IRA’s, 401K’s and Pensions that are still out there will be mandated to go into the Social Security Fund. If this happens you will have even more of a Riot from those who have these. This is our retirement, we worked hard to earn, and save these benefits and we are suppose to put these into a fund that these people can squander. IRA’s and 40lK’s are basically retirement savings accounts, as such we can make our children beneficiaries of these upon our death. In the SS fund they are lost to our heirs.

    One more thing that you should take into consideration. The popular vote that came out in Obamas favor, how much of it was due to illegal votes, voter fraud? I have never seen such nonsense be over looked by the Supreme Court, there were over 30,000 cases in just two counties alone caught before Nov 4 in Indiana, there were over 15,000 and counting in WI when the task force was pulled off the case, we know there was voter fraud in OH that the Supreme Court refused to have cleared up. If you add those numbers up over the number of counties per state, then multiply that by number of states, can you imagine just how many fraudulent votes were in the system.
    The Supreme Court already made a decision to ignore our Constitutional Rights, they refused to get to the truth.

    I will take it one step further, I saw a video on Fox News where (Sen.) Maxine Waters
    (CA) pleading with ACORN, at an ACORN Rally, to make sure Obama wins no matter what they have to do. This adds more doubt to the credibility of the legitimacy of the new voters that voted in this election. We know there were ACORN registration problems in just about every state. Lets not forget that some of these workers were trained by Obama, and his campaign gave them a sustantial payment, purpose is questionable. Until this year I don’t ever recall hearing about this organization.

    There is a lot at stake. Your decision is probably the most important one you have made to this point. Our lives, our futures, our retirement savings, our childrens futures, the security of our country, and much more are all in your hands, the vote you are about to make will shape the future of this country. If you make the wrong choice, there may not be anyway to turn it around in 4 years. An election in 4 years may be too late to reverse the damage done. Will you be able to live with yourselves if the evidence that Attorneys of the 70 lawsuits has is in fact the real truth, and you vote for him anyway. We are asking you not to ignore the peoples plea to do the right thing, protect us and our Constitution.
    I would ask that you take time to read the eveidence in Bergs case at obamacrimes.com, a part of that is about the Constitution and the ramifications if the person elected to office that is not an Natural American Citizen. The part where he would not be eligiable to be Commander in Chief, that the military taking orders from him could be brought up on war crimes. There are other very important problems that would also arise.

    this is an outrage i cant even find ajob as a truck driver because of a minor accident in my past records and this fraud obama is president elect whos in charge of checking backrounds for the highest office in the land this is a conspiracy to get him in evil forces are at work wake up america!

    http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/

  • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com Undercover Black Man

    Chris Matthews has problems. One of the creepiest things I ever saw was when he sexually harassed Erin Burnett on the air.

    My guess is he’s also having a hard time coming to grips with Keith Olbermann being the new top star at MSNBC. Matthews used to be an entertaining windbag. Now he’s just… off-putting.

    • Ani

      Yes, and off-putting is way kind of you!

      He was once on The Daily Show when he was touting the book he’d written “Life’s A Campaign” (I believe that is the title). Matthews was spewing this shallow nonsense about how you campaign for the girl of your dreams (as if she were a cupie doll in the window to be won) and in business, every thing is calculated, winning is all…hmmm. Interesting.

      Stewart basically ridiculed him and ripped him about THREE new ones. Matthews looked like he was about to jump out of his chair and called it “the interview from hell”. Truly if you can find a youtube of it — it is worth seeing just to see Matthews get his comeuppance.

      It was amazing that Jon Stewart did this because he is known for having people from all walks and all political views on his show and treating them respectfully and giving them fair hearing. To see Stewart dismantle him this way (and be funny at the same time) was PRICELESS.

      And well deserved.

      MY feeling is people are entitled to support whom they wish — but let’s just keep it to the issues and have reason for your support – the smears and sexism can be left out of it, thank you very much.

      • DAB

        I currently have a lot of bones to pick with Stewart but maybe, just maybe Stewart will eventually have the same effect on Matthews that he had on CNN’s Crossfire which was cancelled shortly after he excoriated the show during his appearance there.

  • Francesca

    Thank you! I’m a paleo con and I loathe that pretentious fat english trotskyite slug too!  The only reason Hitchens became a supposed conservative is because he’s a whore for Israel.