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Obama Shooting America and the World in the Foot

Those bothered by the wild cheering emanating from Obamanation celebrating the flaccid economic recovery should have some peace in the coming months. For starters the global economic slowdown has started. One of the early canaries desperate for oxygen is the port of Shanghai:

The shipping specialist Lloyd’s List said container traffic through the Port of Shanghai – the world’s largest – fell by 100,000 boxes in January from a year earlier, or 4pc. Volumes fell by over one million tonnes. . . .

“China’s shipping markets face grievous challenges,” said the Shanghai International Shipping Institute. It acknowledged that the industry in the grip of downturn and likely to face a “worsening situation” in early 2012.

The biggest falls in container volumes have been on the Asia-Europe route. . . .

“Things will be very difficult in 2012: it will be a winter and a test for the entire industry,” said Mao Daqing, Vanke’s vice president. A price war before Christmas failed to halt the crash in sales.
Caixin Magazine said China’s once-hot property market is “turning polar” and reported that Moody’s fears Hong Kong-based developers may struggle to refinance foreign debt this year.
The IMF advised Beijing to stay the course on the housing curbs. If stimulus is needed, the authorities should run a bigger budget deficit with “targeted transfers and unemployment benefits”.

In a remarkable twist, the IMF proposed direct subsidies for white goods, a sort of Chinese ‘cash-for-clunkers’.

“A fiscal package should be the front line of defence,” it said.
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Then there is the spike in oil prices. When the Obama TV Network reports it you know there is trouble ahead:

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Compounding the spike in oil is Obama’s attempt to play tough guy with Iran. Obama and his national security team have joined the throng of neocons in trying to pump the public into believing that Iran is the new Nazi Germany. Obama is now pushing to cut off Iran from SWIFT.

What is SWIFT?

SWIFT handles cross-border payments for more than 10,000 financial institutions and corporations in 210 countries. It lets users exchange financial information securely and reliably, thereby lowering costs and reducing risk. It operates on trust and neutrality — SWIFT accepts nearly all comers and does not judge the merits of the transactions passing through its secure message system. Its managers generally brush off investigators and enforcement agencies, telling them to take up suspected wrongdoing directly with nations or corporations.

Established in 1973, the essential but little-known hub is overseen by major central banks, including the U.S. Federal Reserve and the European Central Bank. . . .

The Obama administration wants Iran evicted from SWIFT, an independent financial clearinghouse that is crucial to the country’s overseas oil sales. That would leapfrog the current slow-pressure campaign of sanctions aimed at persuading Iran to drop what the U.S. and its allies contend is a drive toward developing and building nuclear weapons. It also perhaps would buy time for the U.S. to persuade Israel not to launch a pre-emptive military strike on Iran this spring. . . .

But such a penalty could send oil prices soaring when many of the world’s economies are still frail. It also could hurt ordinary Iranians and undercut the reputation of SWIFT, a banking hub used by virtually every nation and corporation around the world. The organization’s full name is the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunications.

If this is pursued and implemented oil will go up, probably over $150 a barrel. But wait, there is more. Look for other countries–China and Russia in particular–to move to set up an alternative to SWIFT and eliminate the ability of Washington to use economic pressure as a tool of foreign policy. Obama’s decision to pursue this kind of desperation move is further reminder of how naive and inexperienced this clown is. It may allow him the fleeting illusion that he is being the tough guy with Iran, but it is the kind of temporary feel good move that could actually blow up the world economy. Go for it Barry.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    “flaccid economic recovery”

    Really? http://www.thestreet.com/story/11420284/1/165-banks-on-the-brink.html

    Some recovery!

  • Anonymous

    “flaccid economic recovery”

    Really? http://www.thestreet.com/story/11420284/1/165-banks-on-the-brink.html

    Some recovery!

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think that all these blusters toward Iran are helping anyone. Does Obama really think that this is going to improve things? Skyrocketing gas prices might help one political party or another but in the end they hurt the vast majority of us.

    • Anonymous

      The thing about Barky is, for all of his much-ballyhooed “multiculturalism”, he really doesn’t understand much at all about other nations, cultures, peoples.

      Remember Copenhagen?  The Chinese president called a private meeting that specifically excluded him, but Barky’s just GOTTA storm the joint, and assert himself in performance.

      The worst thing you can do to a Chinese person, is to try and humiliate them publicly, or undermine their authority.

      Then there was that memorable first sit-down with Putin, at breakfast, in an outdoor garden patio.

      “Our Hero” comes loping across to Putin’s table, like a dog chasing a stick, and plops himself down.  And Putin proceeds to read him the riot act, because he blames Barky’s crowd within the Dems for all of the problems Putin’s having with the “‘stan’s” (the Muslim republics and regions in the former Soviet Union), and Barky has no clue what is happening or why, much less how to handle himself in such an encounter.

      So, we’ve got to be kidding ourselves if we expect anything to improve, under from this marionette.

      And I think this grows more apparent to the world, every day.

      He’s been faking it until he makes it, and has adopted this slick, unflappable demeanor to fool the dopiest optimists.

      But you can’t get through two terms with that strategy.

      He’s been looking like he knows he’s out of his depth.

  • PA

    LJ,

    You are of course cheering for an economic downturn in the U.S. That would help your guy Romney.

    However, so far we continue to have improving economic news out of the U.S.

    Jobless claims just today are at their lowest level since 2008. Housing starts were also better than expected today.

    The U.S. economy is largely a domestic economy. It is not particularly reliant on the global economy. 70% of U.S. GDP is from domestic consumer spending. A better housing market will do a lot more to impact the U.S. economy than a slowdown in the global economy. Many economists are saying that it is more likely that the stronger U.S. economy will help pull-up the global economy and not the other way around.

    Oil prices may create a bit of a headwind, but oil prices are very volatile, so may be lower again. Most of the recent run-up in oil prices has been because of Iran, so this could quickly reverse.

    “Obama’s decision to pursue this kind of desperation move is further reminder of how naive and inexperienced this clown is. ”

    Another stupid comment by you. It is a good thing that the U.S. and other countries continue to put non-military pressure on Iran. It is beginning to have an impact.  

    I don’t doubt whatever Obama does you will criticize it. If he put no pressue on Iran you would be complaining that he is putting no pressure on Iran.

    Still waiting for that Tsunami of a double dip recession forecasted by you for the last two years.

  • PA

    LJ,

    You are of course cheering for an economic downturn in the U.S. That would help your guy Romney.

    However, so far we continue to have improving economic news out of the U.S.

    Jobless claims just today are at their lowest level since 2008. Housing starts were also better than expected today.

    The U.S. economy is largely a domestic economy. It is not particularly reliant on the global economy. 70% of U.S. GDP is from domestic consumer spending. A better housing market will do a lot more to impact the U.S. economy than a slowdown in the global economy. Many economists are saying that it is more likely that the stronger U.S. economy will help pull-up the global economy and not the other way around.

    Oil prices may create a bit of a headwind, but oil prices are very volatile, so may be lower again. Most of the recent run-up in oil prices has been because of Iran, so this could quickly reverse.

    “Obama’s decision to pursue this kind of desperation move is further reminder of how naive and inexperienced this clown is. ”

    Another stupid comment by you. It is a good thing that the U.S. and other countries continue to put non-military pressure on Iran. It is beginning to have an impact.  

    I don’t doubt whatever Obama does you will criticize it. If he put no pressue on Iran you would be complaining that he is putting no pressure on Iran.

    Still waiting for that Tsunami of a double dip recession forecasted by you for the last two years.

    • Scottymac54

      “Another stupid comment by you. It is a good thing that the U.S. and other countries continue to put non-military pressure on Iran. It is beginning to have an impact…”

      PA, will you PLEASE exercise some common sense, and have at least a modicum of respect?  I mean, this guy pays the bills here.  You are occasionally, IMHO, making very valid and relative points, but you nullify your own contributions with your own brattiness.

      If you want to recite talking points like a Gilbert and Sullivan patter song, fine.  I’m not trying to stop you.

      But it’s NOT effective.  

  • Anonymous

    Our fragile economy can’t take gas prices going up. Every penny that goes into the gas tank makes it harder for the average person to recover and improve their situation. Many are just holding on now.

    I’ve always wondered just how much good putting economic pressure on a country like Iran actually does. Will it cause so much pain to the citizens that they revolt and the west gets the “regime” change they want? Or will it backfire and the citizens will blame the west?

    I also don’t like the idea of anyone putting pressure on an Independent Agency to do their bidding. Isn’t the idea of an Independent Agency to be, you know, independent? SWIFT will problably end it’s usefullness to the rest of the world if it does the bidding of the U.S.

    Just random thoughts that came to me after reading you excellent explanation LJ. Now I’ll leave to keep my thinking process intact from the mud-slinging contest that has errupted below. Pity, this is an important and interesting issue.

    • Anonymous

      The
      United States now suffers the fever of despotism, in great part,
      because Congress has relentlessly abrogated its sworn Constitutional
      duty. Article One, Section One of the Constitution informs us:All
      legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the
      United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of
      Representatives.

      Nowhere
      in the Constitution do we find that Executive branch appointees, such
      as those comfortably ensconced at HHS, EPA, or Treasury may write laws
      that the people are expected to obey. Congress and her law-writing
      committees were once responsible for actually writing all the Federal
      laws and regulations, down to the smallest detail. Now Congress passes
      two thousand pages of overview legislation that specifically permits the
      unelected, unappointed, and unconfirmed bureaucrats to add cauldrons
      full of the devil brew to the details of new legislation. The Founders
      of this country would be aghast at the powers so easily forfeited by
      Congress and hoarded by the Executive branch.

      Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/02/the_rising_fever_of_despotism.html#ixzz1mYVgq2eu

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    Wow. You guys really are rooting for America to fail just so you can blame it on Obama. That’s sad.

    • Anonymous

       Really?

      Majority of Democrats want Bush to fail

      A recent Fox News poll gets at the disturbing truth: A majority of
      Democrats say they want to see the president fail. Such deep hatred is
      bad news for the country at a time when America needs to bridge the
      partisan divide. It’s also bad news for the Democrats, who risk
      repeating the Republicans’ mistakes of a decade ago, driving away the
      centrists they need to regain power or going too far if they do manage
      to win.

      Remember, for better or for worse, George W. Bush will be our president
      for more than two years. Hoping that he’ll fail is really hoping that
      America will fail. These people detest Bush so much that they don’t mind
      America getting a setback across the globe if it will weaken Bush.

      http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/09/24/majority-of-democrats-want-bush-to-fail/

      How does crow taste Marvin ???

      • Anonymous

        There is a difference between wanting to see America fail versus wanting to see Bush fail. Such a lame question from FOX. Fail at what? Fail at getting re-elected? Fail at inacting his terrible right-wing policies?

        However, harping on the economy, as LJ does, can be construed as LJ hoping the economy fails, so his man Romney can win the election. Very different.

  • Anonymous

    Well, this is entertaining. I actually was going to discuss SWIFT when I encountered the mud wrestling.

    • Scottymac54

      I’m sorry, Ellen.

      What’s happening is, it turns out most of the commenters that left suddenly, months ago, are saying they did so, because of me, and there have been some untoward comments over the last few days.

      This was my attempt to, for once and for all, clear the air, let them air their grievances, and give me the common courtesy of letting ME know, to my face, whether they want me to leave.

      I like it here and enjoy the back-and-forth (not with that particular dissident group, but with you “regulars”).

      But, if they’re that determined to participate here, and feel my very presence is oppressing their freedom to speak, I have to take that into consideration.  I can always “Read-Only” here, I do have other blogs to vent my spleen at, so it’s not THAT much of a big deal.

      I obviously have issues with some of their disruptive and suppressive behavior patterns, but I have NEVER gone to their blogs, I have NEVER called for anyone here to be restricted from posting or commenting, and I’ve never even bothered management personnel with complaints about the coordinated harassment or the “freeze-out” tactics.

      I also apologize to all for the excessive language (this is the way I speak in real life, unfortunately!)

      At any rate, it hasn’t worked and, obviously, there’s something else at work here that I’m clueless about.

      I’m positively GUTTED that commenters I love, like kinthenorthwest, dianalc, and haarp have voted with their feet, but I’m at a loss as to what I’m expected to do about it.

      I do want the disruptions to completely impartial writers likes to completely neutral writers like Pat Racimora, , Bronwyn, ani, etc., to STOP.  It’s completely unfair for these agitated defectors who have beef with me, to detract from the work these contributors put forth for our benefit,  It’s disrespectful to their work, and I assure you, they are not associated with me in any way.

      Ellen, please don’t leave NQ because of this drama.  I really don’t think there’s anything else I can do.

      • Juliezzz

          People leave in a huff usually because they can’t actually  argue their points. 
        How dare they be challenged and actually have to think.  If a person is
        secure in their point of view then it doesn’t matter who agrees or
        disagrees with them.

        So don’t sweat it.  Weak people cut and run and then wine about it.

        by the way, I vote for you to stay if that matters at all.  And t I value what you have to say.  Strong free thinkers sometimes are hard to come by as I’m sure you know

      • Anonymous

        Leave? No way…don’t you dare let anyone push you out because you are expressing your opinion.

      • Anonymous

        Oh gosh, Scotty, I’m not leaving. (Us Canadians talk that way in real life too ;) I believe the only time I came  close was when Onofre attacked me for being a Canadian and said  my comments were pompous.
        So don’t you dare leave!
        This whole thing with you blew up a long time ago on a thread where everyone attacked you for some hideous comment you were supposed to have made on another thread that I missed. So I was completely at a loss. I’d  love  to find it one  day to find out what the fuss was about.
        I have never found your comments objectionable – in fact I enjoy them. I think you once said you lived in New York. I have  partners in New York and  I like the way they speak their mind.
        I was surprised at the herd behavior here of people who I thought were individuals. But when I see what is going on in the GOP I realized that there is something in the water in parts of the country. People who attack Socialism and Communism as government suppressing the individual are grouping together to advocate for government suppressing free social choices and independent thinking. And they are supporting the worst of these candidates in the GOP.

        So I’m staying and you’d better stay too. Don’t give in to bullies.

  • Scottymac54

    WELL??

    DO you REALLY want to fuck with me, when it’s clear that I REALLY DON’T GIVE A SHIT??

    C’mon.  Really.  You’re hot shit, now.

    Tell me what I am, you weak FAGGOTS.

    • Scottymac54

      C’mon out and play, babe.

      I’m not going to fuck with you.

      Just open up.  Really.  LEVEL with me.

      What do you really want me, to take from this experience?

    • Scottymac54

      C’mon out and play, babe.

      I’m not going to fuck with you.

      Just open up.  Really.  LEVEL with me.

      What do you really want me, to take from this experience?

    • Anonymous

      Scottymac54: I have so relished the time I have not been here, wherein I bore the brunt of your misogynist attacks.  But, true to form, you, as a progressive, show your true colors by using the Faggots pejorative. I dare you to post that at HuffPo, KO’s, or DU. Never mind, as long as you are a misogynist or a sexuality bigot on an obscure blog, or if they *deserve* it, it does not count, right?  Tell ya what big boy, how’s about you eat a bowl of dicks, and for dessert, a steaming bowl of STFU. 
      I would engage you further, but I have to confirm my registration for my concealed carry permit class I am attending this weekend.  Because that is how Conservative women roll. 

      • Scottymac54

        ROTFLMAO!!!

        Best of the day….

      • Scottymac54

        Sybill, I’ve been guilty of misogyny,  AND chauvinism, and a personal lack of discipline in my younger days, so I’m in no position to tout my own moral superiority in any regard.  Whatever.

        But I’m actually glad you stopped by, not because of your opinions, because I think your politics are batshit insane.

        I do owe you an apology, however.  On the occasion you refer to, I used extremely crude imagery in argument with you.

        At the time, I’m sure I denied feeling badly about it, but in truth, I did regret it, even then, and I wanted to take the opportunity to say that I’m sorry.

        I was very angry with you, but that is no excuse for me to direct such ugly invective at you, over such a disagreement, and I hope you’ll accept it.

        This was a case of me having too much pride to give the other “side”, a “win”, but that foolishly stopped me from doing the right thing and making amends for what was really an unnecessarily vulgar shot at someone I didn’t know, and I hope you’ll accept it.

        And, FWIW, I applaud you for getting your concealed carry.  You are fortunate to live in a state where your right to bear arms is respected.

        I’m sure you’ve noticed that resources are drying up.

        As budgets are stretched to the limit, the pure fact of the matter is, law enforcement can no longer protect you (if you believe they even did, before).

        They’re not even responsible for protecting you in your own home.

        Unless you find the prospect of a firearm in your home too distracting, or you’re really opposed to the whole concept of firearms in your life, you should really consider it, if not for any reason, other than to have the training and at least know how, if you find yourself in a dangerous situation.

        Sybill, kudos to you for taking responsibility for your own safety, and, once again, I do apologize for my previous remarks.

        • Anonymous

          Scotty I think I lose my Canadian citizenship if I buy a gun.
          But maybe I don’t live in the neighborhoods you have in mind.

          • Anonymous

            Probably.  But it’s wise to be very security-minded, right now, because attacks, particularly against women, are just off the hook.

            Even in general.  And we men have to help women, to encourage them to feel empowered enough to defend themselves, so we can END fear and paranoia.

            It’s life-crippling, and soul-crushing.

            It’s the invisible victory that thugs score, just by existing.

            • Anonymous

               The Canadian citizenship comment was tongue-in-cheek. But thanks for your concern. I keep thinking that I am invincible and don’t realize that other people just see an older lady.

      • Anonymous

         ”Because that is how Conservative women roll. ”

        Concealed carry is the bona fides for a conservative? Goldwater is rolling in his grave….

        By the way, nice language for a conservative woman…. 

  • HELENK

    China reduces holdings in US treasuries. Invests more in Latin America. Isn’t that where the soros money is going now?

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-15/china-trims-holdings-of-treasuries-to-lowest-level-since-2010.html

  • Ockham’s Microtome

    Obama Shooting America and the World in the Foot
    =======================
    You think?

    And as does your blog, which is a great source of information that otherwise has been taken over by obamabots, sock puppets, morons, and trolls. From June 2008 to November 2011, your blog was the place to go. Now not so much. Your commentary is spot on and timely and I still read your views and agree with you more often than not. However, you have allowed those who would actually make that happen which you so dislike become the arbiters here of any and all discussions. They rule the roost here though the same sort of repetitive nonsense and gobbledygook that this administration is so patently good at.

    You know, this isn’t about what politician has the most money or who has the most connections in DC. No, this is about a conflict between those who would change the very
    nature of this Republic through any means available and necessary to
    achieve their dream (and our nightmare) of a Marxist dystopia where all
    decisions would be made for the people and those who would preserve a government of and by the people.

    And this is not just addressed to you but to everyone posting here, especially those miscreants who would have us believe they actuallt have the best interests of this country at heart. You know–Scotty, PA, juliezzzz, and those others who would have us believe that 4 more years of the same is better than ANY of the GOP candidates.

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

       Great incoherent, idiotic comment.  Is this what you call “thinking?”  Really?  If you put Scotty, PA and Juliezzzz in a room they might claw each others eyes out.  What the hell are you prattling on about?

      • Scotty

        My comment is centered on your concern for this election cycle and your own views, which I have already applauded. That you allow the blathering of idiots who merely use your gravitas to support thier stupidity is my point. Your blog has gone downhill and not because of you but because of the boneheads that comment here without even having checked their own “facts”.

        No offense meant to you personally but I can look at data, read reviews, and see the lowering of standards.

        • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

           So you first posted as “Ockham’s Microtome?”  Do I have that right?

          • Ockham’s Microtome

            So you first posted as “Ockham’s Microtome?” Do I have that right?     
            =============
            That was my mistake and I stand corrected–I did not mean to conflate issues here. Now for the rest. You do know that your resident obamabot, Scotty, is an unmitigiated progressive who has indeed caused many to flee your web presence because of its unmitigated sense of self-worth. It can revile eveyone on the planet with his invincibly ignorant invective but it won’t work for those of us who actually think

            I’m just the messenger and will reiterate that my criticism is not directed at you.

            • Scottymac54

              So, Larry boots my ass, and you’ll all come back out of the shadows, no harm, no foul.

              You want me gone.

              “Messenger”?

              But to whom do you report?

              • Onofre’s arm

                Please don’t leave Soddy, your presence here, like a reverse beacon, is the perfect reason for discriminating and sophisticated people to stay clear away from this site. You’re like the stench that keeps people away from a mound of rotting corpses. You should feel proud!

            • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

               I now know who you are.  You cost me over $10,000 and I took the extra step of protecting you and this is your expression of gratitude? 

              • Onofre’s arm

                Someone cost you over $10,000?? OMG!
                How can I help them?

            • William L. Donlon

              I Read Larry’s Article And —

               I Had A Great Idea —  But –

              Now Nobody Is Paying Attention.

              I Just Want You To Know —

              This is Where My Great Idea Would Have Gone—

               If You Hadn’t Pissed everybody Off.

              • Onofre’s arm

                WLD, now you know why so many long time regulars bolted from this sewer. Your thoughts would be more thoughtfully considered at:http://katzporch.com/

                • Scottymac54

                  Bring an empty antique perfume bottle, and the lecture is for free!

            • Anonymous

              “Scotty, is an unmitigiated progressive”
              So what if he is? Things have gotten really crazy when labels like “Progressive” and “Liberals” and “Socialist” are supposed to be the ultimate insult. 

        • Scottymac54

          “Gravitas?”  “Data?”

          But I never said I wasn’t a bonehead.

          My wife will confirm that.

          Everyone who’s ever reported to me could confirm that.

          What does that have to do with my political viewpoint?

          Is there a fucking full moon in Tennessee, tonight?

          And you’re worthy of MY handle, LOL?

      • Anonymous

        Mr. Johnson this is all about disruption.
        Facts do not matter.  Setting us against each other is the point. Psy Ops on steroids.  This bunch is the same, or maybe worse,  as the Bushbots.  It will get worse as the election gets more close.

        • Scottymac54

          I don’t remember angry decepticons back in 2008….

          On riverdaughter, yes.  Not here.

          • Anonymous

            What name did you post under then?

        • Scottymac54

          You’re right.

          I basically gave them free reign to unload their bile, and tell me who I was.

          No takers.

          So it probably is a psy-op.

          I love this place, but it hardly strikes me as some covert nerve center, especially since these people were all regular posters before they booked.

          Ferd and Katmoon even got writing props, to lobby for Cain.

          Yet, somehow, I’m for Barky.  Okee-doke.

      • Docelder

        These folks might ordinarily claw each others eyes out but I see the point in that supporting Paul while ridiculing every viable republican is the same thing as supporting Obama overtly… at least in effect it will be the same thing. I think this is the point of many of the “trolls” on the Internet now… rub raw the anger of people pissed off with Obama and yet divert that into some non productive end… like writing in “Paul”. Meanwhile we will be stuck with Obama and his idiocy.

        • Scottymac54

          Doc?  I didn’t tell your chosen political party to trot out a succession of unelectable ASSHOLES for our perusal.

          Show me one instance of any GOP candidate targeting ANY message to independents, moderates, frustrated progressives, etc.

          ONE!

          The fact still remains that you motherfuckers think you OWN this fucking country, and expect our unconditional support for YOUR failed policies?

          What fucking planet do you live on, where politics work out that way?

          WE are stuck with Barky, because of YOUR idiotic, failed ideologies, and stone-age sexual snoops.

          Deal with it.

          • Docelder

            There is a huge rift between flyover America and the Northeast and left coast. People on the Northeast and left coast have no idea just who the people in flyover America are… and they don’t care. Likewise flyover America could give a rats ass about the Northeast or the left coast… but look where the jobs are and look where things are actually doing well. Things are o.k. in flyover America… except in the rust belt union stronghold states. I don’t know the answer… personally my wet dream would be to break apart the union. Flyover America doesn’t need the Northeast and it doesn’t need the left coast. I would like to see these folks have to live with their policies without the rest of the Union to lean on. But that is just me. I know it won’t happen but if I could wave a magic wand it would.

            • Scottymac54

              Flyover America doesn’t need the Northeast..”
              Really? Who brings home the bacon?

              Who FEEDS your sniveling asses?

              I mean, you’re not even permitted to grow your own non-GMO foods, for your own consumption!

              You are living under scientific dictatorship and, like it or not, your every ounce of sustenance flows through NYC and Los Angeles….

              DC? Don’t make me laugh.

              That’s the dog-and-pony show.

              “personally my wet dream would be to break apart the union…”

              Dude? In case you haven’t noticed, there already IS a civil war, underway.

              Why deny it? The forces of political correctness cannot stop you from accepting this simple, evident reality.

              The lines of demarcation are not as clearly drawn as the last one.

              But it’s real, and you are correct.

              “I know it won’t happen but if I could wave a magic wand it would…”

              Well, obviously, that’s part of my concern (and part of why you need to be concerned), because who’s to say what either one of us has in mind for the other?

              That’s why I stressed not to generalize OWS on appearances, because you’d never be able to pick me out in a crowd, and none of us can KNOW, with knowingness, what lies in each other’s hearts.

              Picture this nation under EMP attack, and the full import of my message will hit you with clarity.

              This is not the America of yesterday.

        • Scottymac54

          “ridiculing every viable republican is the same thing as supporting Obama….”

          Herman CAIN??  VIABLE CANDIDATE??

          Where?  HOOTERVILLE??

          ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME???? 

          • Docelder

            Cain isn’t a house negro… therefore he isn’t viable to the left. Palin didn’t abort her down’s child therefore she isn’t viable to the left. Romney is from Texas… Santorum has religion… Gingrich wanted to impeach Clinton… so we are left with Romney… who is hands off until he gets nominated because the OWS is in place just for him… he is the out of touch 1% candidate… well he will be as soon as he gets selected by the media to run against their golden child.

            • geoffcsaltine

               see my above post doc. hope to see you soon

              • Scottymac54

                Oh, Christ.  If it isn’t Stanley Kowalski, for a command performance.

                This one, I can’t be bothered to fight for.

        • elaine

          We’re still in the primary, we’re not even close to the general election yet

        • geoffcsaltine

          What’s up Doc. Check in at hill buzz  katz korner.

      • FormerLiberal

         Thanks for the article Larry. You provided another important bit of information which makes the puzzle a little more easy to understand. I am so surprised that in a country with rampant 24 hour news coverage we really know so little about what is going on in the world. And maybe more importantly WHY it is going on.

        BTW is Mr. Microtome dislikes this blog so much and some of the commentators why doesn’t he just leave. Or if he likes your articles he can just ignore the comments or just the comments of those he doesn’t like. Just like I do sometimes with posts which are too long and not seeming to go anywhere. With that I’ll take my own advise and shut up.

        • Anonymous

          As one who is frequently long-winded, mea culpa, I understand your decision to pass on by. I just collapse the comments of those who’s opinion I don’t respect or who’s remarks I find offensive or boring. Usually those last two go together.

          Some people who left NQ, voluntarily, come back from time to time to comment. When those comments are pertinent and are not filled with invective I read them and sometimes enjoy them. When they are not I wonder what the point is?

          I have left several blogs, permanently, when they took a direction I wasn’t willing to go. I have never gone back and acted like a troll. I wish that people who I had liked and respected would do the same.

          • Anonymous

             I know what you mean I have left several blogs myself. I have also taken a few vacations from blogging for various periods of time. From time to time I go back just to see if there are any changes but never make comments because that is pointless.

    • Scottymac54

      All righty, then.

      The first paragraph reminds me of “Onofre’s Arm”.

      Paragraph Two…..Abigail??

      The last line is classic Berfle.  “WILL you support the eventual nominee?”

      Hmmm, thinking.  WTH brought THIS shit on?

      Maybe, I’m supposed to be HAPPY about all of this.

      (They pretty much delete any dissidents on Moulitsas’ side of the blogosphere.)

      Tell me, “Ockham”…..is it a throwdown that you want?

      Because email accounts do exist, if you wanted to address Larry personally.

      What’s the point of coming here and putting all this shit on the street?

      If you had legitimate beef with our political choices, there are better ways to go about making your case (particularly when nobody’s challenging other blogs, or anyone connected thereof).

      What’s your damage?

      • Scotty

        Go fuck yourself, troll.

        • Scottymac54

          Greenlantern?  TEAKIE??

          Aww, you guys were pussies from jump.

          • Anonymous

            I might respond inkind but as you have stated you do not consider anyone at NQ human.

            Just for the record, the last fool who called me a pussie had a malfuntion.

            Believe me when I tell you ScottyMac54, I am not a violent person, but you taking cheap shots just illuminates how really dangerously stupid you are.

            If I have something to say to you Scottymac54, I will use my TeakWoodKite name to tell you about it.

    • William L. Donlon

      You Left Me Out???  On Purpose Or –

      Hey! Just To Show I Have No Hard Feelings  —

      I Want To Invite You To My Next “NAME  Calling Fiesta”.

      We All Dress Up In Colorful  Costumes, Do A Series Of

      Folk Dances While We Call Each Other “Cocksucker” And

      “Mutherfucker”.  Then We All Get Drunk And Eat A Big Meal.

      No Shit — You’ll Fit Right In.

      Seriously — I Can’t Believe i Didn’t Make Your Shit List.
       

       

      • Anonymous

        Hey Wild Bill. I got left out too. But I think we have to call each other “Liberal” “Progressive” and “Socialist” for the ultimate in name calling these days.

        • Anonymous

          Ooops I forgot “Marxist,”

          • Scottymac54

            I can maybe see the other three, maybe.

            But “Marxist”?  Do they know anything about real life, in a true Marxist dictatorship?

            Barky could start broadcasting the Internationale from telescreens in every Walmart, and America would STILL bear no resemblance to such.

            But, it’s not about reality.

            Hating Obama requires convenient rhetorical diversions when your only compromise fails to deliver.

            • Anonymous

              “But, it’s not about reality.”

              Scotty, I’m afraid that reality today isn’t about reality.

              • Anonymous

                Yeah, I know.

                I always get a kick out of these kids with Che and Mao T-shirts on…I used to laugh and mock them out.

                I don’t even do that…I just listen to their frustrations and tell them, “Stop trying to order ice cream, in a Chinese restaurant, it doesn’t WORK there!”, and they crack up.

                It’s true, you know.  This much-vaunted “change” doesn’t have to mean throwing out the baby with the bath water.

                Even with all the faults, abuses, and foibles, we still have work systems we’ll be able to rebuild.

                God knows, we’ve got enough experience with mistakes to learn from, LOL!

                • Anonymous

                   You can always count on Americans to do the right thing – after they’ve tried everything else.Winston Churchill

    • elaine

      Ockham, Juliezzzz is a strong advocate for Ron Paul

      • Scottymac54

        So am I, elaine.

        See a pattern?