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Change in Commenting Policy

By Larry Johnson on February 16, 2012 at 10:04 AM in Current Affairs

There are a substantial number of people who have taken advantage of my open commenting policy and have grossly abused the system. Therefore, going forward, if you want to comment you will have to register a verifiable email with Disqus. If you don’t like it, tough.

This will smoke out the Obama trolls who have been assigned to monitor and do the Obama spin to counter the facts on this site.

http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

I had to verify my own address. If I can do it then you can do it. No more bogus anonymous commenting. Only legit people can participate. Assholes like “ONOFRE’S ARM” thought it cute to use an email demanding fellatio for himself. He’s been banned.

Anonymous

thank you Larry. Once again I can enjoy reading and posting on Noquarter. Thank you
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MCA6QIPPR3EXRQRYL3MVYJSKLQ Joe

…so long as you did not need to check for your own pulse!

And thanks too!
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MCA6QIPPR3EXRQRYL3MVYJSKLQ Joe

…so long as you did not need to check for your own pulse!

And thanks too!
http://wiskeytangofoxtrotoscar.blogspot.com/ James Ala

He / She will be back. Sorry Larry, but this will not stop anyone who really wants to come to the site and cause mayhem. Unless you are willing to hold and then hand pick every post from every commenter, you’re going to have to deal with the gadflies. How hand picking comments works against your stated wish to have a free flow of ideas is a mystery that only you can figure out.

While this is your joint, and you get to make the rules, be aware you ride on the Internet where any low-life mouth breather can read your posts. If that person then wants to rattle your cage, well there is hotmail,gmail,yahoo and about a grillion other free services that person can use to blight your day.

There is an age old addage that if you want to play in politics you need to develop the skin of a Rhinoceros. More to the point, if you name your blog “No Quarter” expect the opposition to take you at your word.

Be that as it may, all I can tell you is to lace up your gloves, pick yourself off the stool and come out swinging again. Just remember those southpaws can be a tough nut to crack.

Anonymous

About damn time.
Anonymous

Disqus has it’s moments, but once you sign in you can post anywhere that uses the Disqus system without having to relogin into another site or blog.

But I concur, its about damn time. Dailykooks had no problem shutting down my account after I had been reading and posting there since..2003? I was an avid reader of buzzflash back in the day so that’s probably when I found DK. I know I was there before the 2004 primaries kicked in because I got all hyped up about Howard Dean (WTF?!) from DK. But 5 years later make some snarky Obama posts and your gone.

Funny, back when the Dean Scream happened I was so bummed out. I felt a little hurt whenever they played it and then laughed and made fun of it, so unfair….now I think it’s funny as hell! Chappelle really nailed that one.

Anonymous

Don’t really like the Disqus system because it connects you to other sites…. but that is just my preference. Glad this site is still around.

Anonymous

Done and done. No problem if you aren’t up to no good.

It’s hard to wade through the adolescent mudslinging contests to comment on things the rest of us find informative and interesting. The comments I don’t, I simply collapse as not worth my time.

Thanks Larry, they presumed you would put up with their shit forever. As in so many other areas, they were/are wrong.
Anonymous

Okay, it seems to work for me.
Anonymous

“This will smoke out the Obama trolls who have been assigned to monitor and do the Obama spin to counter the facts on this site.”

Why is it that everyone that disagrees with you is an Obama troll? The reality is that more than 50% of the country agrees with Obama, so you are basically saying that 50% of the country are trolls. Come on. You are above that. That is no way to run a website to accumlate eyeballs by discounting and insulting 50% of your potential visitors.

So you think people have been “assigned to monitor” this site. That is funny and slighly paranoid. So everyone that does not follow the standard NQ bashing viewpoints is “assigned to monitor” this website.

You seem to brag about the Internet poll done in 2008 (where your readers voted) that gave you some kind of award for best political blog, but you seem overly paranoid about posters coming here and debating with your and your views that you unleash on the world. I don’t get it. The best political blogs allow plenty of debate and alternative viewpoints.

Why don’t you stop the personal attacks and promote actual debate around policy and facts? Also, why not lay off the truly lame and at times childish attacks on Obama for the sake attacks on Obama? Why not attack the policy and not all these psydo meaningless cut and paste media attacks from the furthest right-wing media? You complain about the GOP going off a cliff supporting Santorum and Gingrich, but you yourself have promoted this kind of support with the Obama hate website.

Your website would be much better and actually put it much more on par with all the really good political and policy websites, if it was less Glenn Beck and more National Review or Foreign Policy or Glenn Greenwald.

Anonymous

Over on Dailykooks I used to call Dubya “Chimpy McFlightsuit”. Laughs all around on that one. But call Obama “Sparky McPeaEater” and it’s suddenly character attacks and racism and hatred.

Hench, the handle. Obama is Dubya 2 Electric Boogaloo.

http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Electric_Boogaloo

Electric Boogaloo is a term used on the internets to describe an egregious sequel that never should have been made. It all started in 1984, with the movie Breakin’ 2: Electric Boogaloo – a shitty and completely unnecessary continuation of a movie that wasn’t even any good to begin with.

The term is most commonly used to describe unbearably shitty movie sequels like The Matrix: Revolutions and Speed 2. Unfortunately, books fall victim to this plague just as often.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MCA6QIPPR3EXRQRYL3MVYJSKLQ Joe

OT – So the question is…

Since Happy Days was a spin-off of sorts from American Graffiti… Does that mean it was an Electric Boogaloo 7 years before it Jumped-the-Shark?

(Sorry, just trying to lighten things up.)
http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

The problem with this method of attack is that there are numerous things that Obama has done that are not in line with what Bush did. To say that they are the same because of a few issues where they are similar is to ignore all of the many issues where they are not and is thus quite illogical.

Here are just a few of the things Obama has done that Bush would not have done:

1. Ended DADT.

2. Health Care Reform.

3. Credit Card Reform.

4. Killed Bin Laden. (Bush didn’t get the job done in 7 years, so there’s no reason to think he would have with another term.)

5. Appointed Two Liberal Supreme Court Justices (the court would be 7-2 conservative right now if McCain had won. this is of extreme importance is too often overlooked)

Anonymous

I wouldn’t go trying to brag about his record of health care and credit card reform, when all his reforms have done is screw poor people! Added costs and complications is all poor people see from them both. While his Mafia style protection rackets (I mean union buddies) All seem to be getting waivers for Obamacare. Funny how it’s good enough for everyone BUT Obama’s friends huh. And as far as his Supreme Court Justices, so far it looks as though they intend to tow the Obama line no matter how many laws it breaks or how badly it violates the constitution. If you consider that a good thing, I feel sorry for you.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MCA6QIPPR3EXRQRYL3MVYJSKLQ Joe

You need to get a grasp on the difference between disagreement and disruption…

If you need help, think Tea Party versus Ok-U-Pie.

Anonymous

One mans “disruption” is another man’s “disagreement”. It seems that anyone who disagrees on here with some substance is called an Obot and a “disrupter”.. Lame and thin skinned.

I almost never make personal attacks, but focus on the topic at hand with a well thought-out response. Sorry if you do not like what I have to say, but then do not come to a public forum on a public website.

Anonymous

There are Obots and there are ABObots. I have little respect for either.

Anonymous

It seems like everyone who agrees with Obama is an Obot… or a troll. Great. We can all do name calling.

There are also NQbots. Those who do nothing but trash Obama.

Anonymous

If ya haven’t noticed I have reached out and attempted to have a rational discourse with you. Obots are the fucking idiots who follow their leader despite what he does. I didn’t personally say you were one that I recall.

Many of us recognized from the start that much of what Obama was saying was complete bullshit. His claim that he would be a post-partisan president is perhaps the most egregious.

Anonymous

Well I guess we are going to disgree on who has actually been the most partisan in Washington. The GOP has made absolutely no effort to compromise on anything. They will pay the price for that in 2012.

Anonymous

Please don’t put words in my mouth. I didn’t claim that one side or the other were more partisan. I stated the fact that Obama CLAIMED he would be a post-partisan president. And he hasn’t been. Never was. And never will be.

Anonymous

He tried to be post-partisan, but the other side was not having it. You need both sides for post partisan to work.

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

Obama’s claim to be a post partisan President was most likely just politics – but that said – I don’t think it’s even close to fair to blame him for the division that we’ve seen since he was elected. The Republicans have refused to work with him in any sort of reasonable way, no matter how much he has bent.

Anonymous

Well, Obama telling the Republicans that he “won” and that was that didn’t start things off very well.

Anonymous

Here’s the reality Sparky. This isn’t a “public forum” on a “public website”. This isn’t your own personal first amendment experiment, this is a blog owned by Larry. So yes, he does have the right to shut down a cut and paste troll. Sorry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-3Iq3XQkAw

http://www.facebook.com/people/Hank-DeCat/100001190387982 Hank DeCat

Thank you. I am so over people yelling “First Amendment” when they obviously have no CLUE what the First Amendment means (i.e., the government cannot curtail your speech — except in certain circumstances; it has no application whatsoever to private individuals restricting your “speech”). Jaysus — this is BASIC high school civics stuff.

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

I agree about the misuse of the “First Amendment” claim but it’s misused on all sides. We’re seeing a pretty absurd misuse of it right now with this whole faux “war on religion” nonsense.

Anonymous

No we’re not. We’re seeing an administration that has successfully framed the issue as pro or con contraception not the real issue which is religious freedom. But you know that. And if you don’t, then you don’t understand the 1st Amendment.

Not to mention contraception as a health issue as if pregnancy was a disease.

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

I do agree he has that right (of course.) But if you ban commenters for simply disagreeing then you aren’t really having any kind of discussion.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MCA6QIPPR3EXRQRYL3MVYJSKLQ Joe

“”One mans “disruption” is another man’s “disagreement”.”"
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There is your first mistake.

First the left and the willing media make every attempt to corrupt our language – the primary means of communication - by using rhetorical slight of hand.

Here you are trying to blur the meaning of the two different words; disruption is NOT disagreement

Next comes the moral relativism argument to negate or water down the ability of one side to maintain the premise of the argument or position.

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“”Sorry if you do not like what I have to say, but then do not come to a public forum on a public website.”"
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Good for you for not resorting to the personal attacks, but why should my disagreeing with your comment result in me disrupting my viewing a public website?.

Anonymous

It is a public website and a public commentary section.

Just don’t read the comments you disagree with and they will not disrupt your reading.

What is disruptive is, as Sanshiro123, says above, all the personal insults, bad language and name calling. Most websites ban that. They do not band different points of view. At NQ the opposite seems to happen. Keep all the personal attacks, name calling and bad language, but ban anyone that does not go along with the NQ party of line of bashing Obama on everything all the time. Truly lame.

http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

Please. I don’t require anyone to agree with me. But if you believe that PA and Marvin Marks are “independent” non-partisan commentators then you are truly delusional. I defy you to find another blog that allows the diversity and range of opinion that I do. If requiring a verified email is censorship in your book than too fucking bad. People hiding their identity get really bold about saying and writing very stupid things.

Anonymous

This is PA. I have signed on with a new DISQUS account, as per your request. I have had to change my username. I have always logged on here with a legitimate email.

I do not claim to be “Independent”. I support Obama and think he is doing a good job. You support your guy and I support my guy. That is how Democracy works. Lets debate it out.

“I defy you to find another blog that allows the diversity and range of opinion that I do.”

I would say just about every single website on the “left” and “center” allows much more diversity and attracts much more diversity of views then your website. You should really get out more.

Try Andrew Sullivan and David Frum on Daily Beast. They attract all kinds of comments. Try Krugman’s website. He regularly gets “attacked”. However, go to Daily Caller or HotAir and you are banned if you do not fall in line. Most websites on the “right” do not allow any decenting views. Why is that?

NQ has done the same. You have censored and banned many over the years with or without an email registration. However, you seem to be more lenient recently. I guess you have gotten tired of nothing but Tea Partiers.

“People hiding their identity get really bold about saying and writing very stupid things.”

Not going to make a difference as anyone can set-up an annoymous email address. Everyone is annoymous on the Internet. That is positive. You have to judge someone on their views and not their person.

Hey, if you want to broadcast your views to the world, then you have to expect people will take issue with what you say, especially your extreme views at times. If you cannot deal with it than why do you have a website or a public comment section?
Anonymous

This is PA. I have signed on with a new DISQUS account, as per your request. I have had to change my username. I have always logged on here with a legitimate email.

I do not claim to be “Independent”. I support Obama and think he is doing a good job. You support your guy and I support my guy. That is how Democracy works. Lets debate it out.

“I defy you to find another blog that allows the diversity and range of opinion that I do.”

I would say just about every single website on the “left” and “center” allows much more diversity and attracts much more diversity of views then your website. You should really get out more.

Try Andrew Sullivan and David Frum on Daily Beast. They attract all kinds of comments. Try Krugman’s website. He regularly gets “attacked”. However, go to Daily Caller or HotAir and you are banned if you do not fall in line. Most websites on the “right” do not allow any decenting views. Why is that?

NQ has done the same. You have censored and banned many over the years with or without an email registration. However, you seem to be more lenient recently. I guess you have gotten tired of nothing but Tea Partiers.

“People hiding their identity get really bold about saying and writing very stupid things.”

Not going to make a difference as anyone can set-up an annoymous email address. Everyone is annoymous on the Internet. That is positive. You have to judge someone on their views and not their person.

Hey, if you want to broadcast your views to the world, then you have to expect people will take issue with what you say, especially your extreme views at times. If you cannot deal with it than why do you have a website or a public comment section?

Anonymous

“Try Andrew Sullivan and David Frum on Daily Beast…”

Don’t like them personally.

“Try Krugman’s website…”

Like him, respect him.

But his approach to economics is like Romney’s approach to everything.

They present a way forward that I could support playing around with, if these were ordinary times, with some measure of stability.

That’s not now.

“However, go to Daily Caller or HotAir and you are banned if you do not fall in line.”

Like I said, “Tucker’s Countryside” has come a long way, but I never comment because the comments section is a cesspool, and I can’t believe they EVER ban anyone over there.

“Hot Air”, allahpundit, Malkin, etc. is dead to me, and I consider them a direct threat to this nation’s security, far more than Iran or any other Muslim haven.

Even with the problems with the other blog popping up, NQ still has the best writers, the best commenters, and people look far more critically at the issues and the cast of characters, then other related blogs.

I learn a lot here, and understand and relate to the others, more than they will ever know.

You must admit, I’ve never called for you to be swept out with the tide, because I don’t believe in that.

Anonymous

“NQ still has the best writers, the best commenters”

Really… that is a stretch. There is almost no original journalism or analysis here. Just a cut n paste from a usually far-right media source and then some superficial anti-obama is evil commentary wrapped around it.

LJ attempts to do some original works sometimes. At least he attempts to quote a few facts, even though he mostly gets the interpretation wrong or leaves out a lot of context.

Anonymous

I guess I just don’t understand why people who dislike a blog, bother to comment here.

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

Have you seen that comic where the wife is asking her husband to come to bed and he’s furiously typing on the computer and he says “I can’t, someone is wrong on the internet!” (I’m paraphrasing, not sure of the exact wording…) anyway – it’s like that.

I think people naturally want to set the record straight when they see people saying things that they believe are untrue.

I think a lot of really crazy views get spread around because more people don’t say “hold up, what is that you’re saying? where is the proof for it?”
I strongly believe that most of the anti-Obama hatred in this country comes from a sort of anti-fact virus… stuff just gets spread around and people feel overwhelmed by the amount of nonsense so it keeps going… In a way I feel like it’s sort of a public service to respond to untrue comments on political blogs… but mostly it’s just a sickness that comes with being a political junkie. I’d be much better off just reading a good book.

Anonymous

The problem Marvin is that we think you are misinformed and you aren’t going to change our minds.

Anonymous

I come here with maybe the hope to open a few people’s eyes to alternative views… but, probably not realisitic with this bunch.

I find it also interesting to read NQ to know what the 30% of true Obama haters say and think, although I will never understand it.

I use to come here like many others (who Larry Johnson has now mostly turned-off over the years) to see what LJ has to say about foreign affairs and security issues. Not so much anymore for that reason, given that every security comment by LJ now includes some weird disconnected Obama bashing.

Anonymous

Obama is the President. If there are national security issues that need to be addressed, the buck stops with him. Whom do you want Larry to criticize, Bill the Cat?

Anonymous

They’ll find a way to blameBill or HillaryClinton.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Hank-DeCat/100001190387982 Hank DeCat

”Hope” is the last refuge of the desperate. Realists — people who get up off their butts & work to achieve their goals/dreams instead of sitting around “hoping” for some politician to “save” them – understand that. Stop smoking the hopium pipe, brother and you will see that your pathetic, irrational, hope-
dependent rants aren’t going to change any rational minds.

Anonymous

I disagree … Mr. Johnson and the regular crew here r a far cry from the far right. I should know I am a Levin fan so I recognize when people r two steps offa nationalistic fascism.

In fact being a conservative and visiting here is kinda like dancing on the wrong side of the town for me.

Anonymous

I gladly agree PTAB01 since I am NOT and never have been a far right loon. I am also not a far left nut job. I am and always have been ME! I support ideas from both sides as long as it is in line with the Constitution and good for America. The last two MORONS to occupy the White House didn’t give a DAMN about either!

http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew J. Weaver

“nqisfun2″,

Why don’t you post with your real name and identity? Do you really need anonymity to write the trash you often do? Are you ashamed that your co-workers, members of your church, your neighbors, friends, and family might see what you write? Would you write what you often do if your name is on it?

I challenge you to post under your own name. What are you hiding to not do so?

Matthew

http://profile.yahoo.com/X53NYEMP5AT4XX7VEKC4GMMD2Y anita

It is a lot easier for people to trash talk when hiding behind an alias. I would love to see those who write offensive comments do so under their real names. It is a good way to teach civility, even in disagreement.

Anonymous

Anita.. nobody knows who you are… why does it matter? How about you call me Manny Smith from Singapore. Will that help you.

How about you just argue the ideas and policy differences?
Anonymous

Anita, this is a blog run by someone whose livelihood is connected with national security issues.

YOU might want to snoop into the personal identities of people you don’t even know, but you’re effectively saying to Larry, that nobody he knows should comment here, and no one should share any real information here.

Civility? Please…
Anonymous

Hell, if you knew me at all you would be certain I am not bashful about speaking my mind. To anyone. I’ve been an against the grain rebel for more decades that I care to remember. In fact I’m kinda fuzzy on a few of them.

Anonymity allows us to comment without concern that our personal viewpoints could be used against us in the business world. Of course your point in the first sentence is equally as true.

Anonymous

Another classic NQ comment.

I hardly think anyone I know is on NQ. Does it matter what name you use? Irrelevant. You are a tough guy or something because you use your name and picture….

http://www.facebook.com/people/Hank-DeCat/100001190387982 Hank DeCat

Bwahahahahahahaha! Of course it is PA writing in defense of PA being a non-partisan, Independent — without, naturally, id’ing himself in his OP!!
Anonymous

Did you just say Andrew Sullivan??? The “dude that doesn’t believe that Trig is Sarah Palin’s child ” Andrew Sullivan? HAHAHAHAHAHA! Cognitive dissonance indeed.
Anonymous

I had my account closed by Huffypuff three years ago for stating simple facts that disagreed with their Obamaton line. They gladly post anti-Obama rants from racist morons with-out editing. But any legitimate post refuting their BS is edited and poster banned.
Anonymous

”
I support Obama and think he is doing a good job. ” (PPAA)
You’re on the wrong website.
Anonymous

” Everyone is annoymous on the Internet. That is positive”

Too bad for you, PA. Saint Obama wants to institute a national internet identity system.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20054342-281.html

His motivations? It could be that he’s worried that anyone insane or dim enough to support his current policies, those of an increasingly invasive surveillance state, is by definition insane or dim enough to easily flipped to the terrrrrrrrrrist side. (though in reality we know it will be the FBI doing the trap & flip)

Anonymous

(standing applauding) Larry.
Anonymous

Amen Larry. I’ve been blocked from “liberal” blogs for the reason that I do not support their Candidate of Choice, meaning Obama.

I’m sure there are other posters here that have experienced the blocking of their posts because they didn’t agree with the “Flavor of the Month.”
http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

Obviously I’m partisan. I’m a progressive/liberal who strongly believes that the Republican Party’s policies are wrong for America. But that’s the thing; my views are based on policy not on personality. That’s what bugs me most about this site; it seems like it’s based entirely on hating Obama for personal vendetta reasons rather than for real policy reasons. The fact is Obama & Hillary Clinton (who NoQ used to support – I read this site back in 2008) are on the same page 99% of the time when it comes to policy… so to flip from loving one to hating the other seems absurd to me. And I’ve never once read a rational reasonable explanation for it (that doesn’t involve frankly insane conspiracy theories.)

Anonymous

I am not even a former democrat and I can see why this blog has despised the POTUS. U r blind if u can not objectively witness the state of affairs that our mainstreets face everyday.

Coming here proclaiming this is all an irrational emotion response is specious at BEST .
Hell, I have witnessed several attempts to point out factual matters to you that just blow off. So it just a given that you will not listen to reason and only care to defend POTUS with un compromising foolishness

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

If you’re not a “former Democrat” then I assume that means you are a Republican so you may have differences with the President for ideological reasons – that I can understand – even though obviously I disagree.

But that has nothing to do with my point; there is very little that Obama has done as President that Hillary Clinton wouldn’t have done as well (a great example is the recent birth control deal…) but the same people who I believe would be cheering on those things if Clinton were doing them are against those things because Obama is doing them. That’s my point and I think it’s quite obviously true.

Anonymous

Somehow I do not think a President Hillary would have signed a law to authorize the suspension of Habeus Corpus and indefinite detentions of US citizens.

I do not believe a President Hillary would have appointed several appointments while by passing a sitting congress declaring it be in recess when it obviously was not.

I do not believe a President Hillary would spend her first 18 months crafting a horrendous nightmare of a healthcare bill to cram down the throats of the American People and sealed the fate of a desperate economy to continue to drown in uncertainty.

I say all this as a person who would have NEVER supported Hillary.
Anonymous

“[...] there is very little that Obama has done as President that Hillary Clinton wouldn’t have done as well [...]”

Classic Obot line.

Anonymous

“the state of affairs that our mainstreets face everyday.”

The state of affairs of America’s main street was not caused by Obama. He has spent the last three years trying to clean-up the mess.

As you say yourself, give us some actual facts to prove otherswise.

Anonymous

PA I recognize u for not being completely misleading so what do you see in your local community? Vacant store fronts and closed up service locations. They didn’t fold at the onset of the recession either many collapsed swiftly Once Dodd Frank was passed and banks big & small crunched down on credit/ loans on all small business’s nationwide. My partner and I downsized our automotive shop to down to two men from five. This has been the story throughout the sector & the only blessing I can give POTUS is he convinced more Americans to keep their older vehicles running.

& If you can’t see this in your own community where the hell r u?

Anonymous

For someone so “bugged” about this site you sure don’t mind coming here and commenting. Is this masochistic therapy for you or something?

Anonymous

I don’t get it either. Ban for vulgar language, personal insults, offensive comments about fellow posters or any other kinds of attack on other people if quieting disruption is the goal. Illegal email or not, traditionally on this site the most aggressive commenters could never have been accused of being Obama trolls.

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

Right – I have almost never resorted to personal attacks here but I’ve been called every name under the sun because I support Obama. And when Obama supporters get called insulting names here – everyone else cheers them on and likes their comment. The idea that the Obama supporters are the ones lowering the bar here is just entirely untrue.

Anonymous

I don’t get it either. Ban for vulgar language, personal insults, offensive comments about fellow posters or any other kinds of attack on other people if quieting disruption is the goal. Illegal email or not, traditionally on this site the most aggressive commenters could never have been accused of being Obama trolls.
Anonymous

When Obama does something good for the country I commend him. Trouble is, he hasn’t done much to meet that standard.

What the liberal Dems did during the last national election put me off on them and Obama for eternity. I will criticize him and them at every turn. If it pisses off 50% of our population then so be it.

Anonymous

Flop_Flipper……standing and applauding
Anonymous

I approve of three things Barky did.

He sent that bust of Churchill right back to the evilians who furnished it.

He treated “Bibi” like just another foreign leader of any sovereign nation (but, of course, fucked off the next day, LOL!)

And he did repeal DADT. (Why so long? The gay vote…)

On the “con” side, I have a list of grievances as long as a roll of toilet paper. I’m talking, 1000-sheet roll.

So, I’m not supporting that mope.

But I’m not letting conservatives dictate my vote, and my political priorities, either.

Anonymous

So two of the three things you approve of are displays of bad manners?? How appropriate.

Anonymous

Oh, you’re a fine one to sit in judgement…

Anonymous

I’ll give him credit for staying the course and overseeing (as Commander in Chief) the killing of bin Laden. The SEALS did the work and deserve the vast majority of the credit however.

I was in Alabama when the news came in that bin Laden was killed. One of the guys where I was working wasn’t happy at all. He commented: “I wish it would have been Bush that got him.” I told him it was a great day for America and it didn’t matter to me whether or not Obama was at the helm or anyone else. I think I pissed the guy off.

If Bush hadn’t been distracted with his obsession to wage war in Iraq he might have just made that poor dude’s day.

http://wiskeytangofoxtrotoscar.blogspot.com/ James Ala

”The SEALS did the work and deserve the vast majority of the credit however.”

Oh Sweet Baby Jesus On A Pogo Stick, how typical, how childish.

1. When Obama came to Office the Bin Laden shop was closed and the fixtures sold. Like it or not Obama restarted the hunt for OBL.

2. Obama oversaw the appointment of the team that made OBL a priority.

3. Obama, working with the Special Operations infrastructure, built the very structures from assets already in place to get the SEALs trained and ready for the op.

4. Obama rebuilt the intelligence structures needed and made them a priority.

5. When everything was a go, Obama made the final decision to make the plans a reality

6. If the op had blown up, hello desert one during Jimmy Carter, who do you think would have gotten the blame? SEAL team Six? Not in the general public, and definitely not at NQ.

Credit or blame for bagging OBL belongs to the CIC. Obama set the goal, Obama collected the team, Obama gave the final order; he gets the credit–full stop.

Anonymous

So I didn’t offer sufficient praise to Obama. Wish I could say I was sorry but I am not.

When Washington was a General he actually went out into battle. He didn’t sit behind a desk looking at a screen while people risked their lives to accomplish something he could take credit for.

I give credit to people that actually do the work. I’m funny that way.

Anonymous

50% are not with Obama. The polls are weighted in his favor. I refuse to believe anything the MSM tells me and Fox is catching up fast with my opinion

Anonymous

The last two polls put Obama’s approval rating at 50%.

http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_job.htm

Anonymous

It’s possible, maybe even probable.

But the boy wonder’s not bringing home the bacon he was sent out to get, given the gyrations the party has gone to, to defend his every move.

They just never found anyone suitable to replace him with.

http://wiskeytangofoxtrotoscar.blogspot.com/ James Ala

Wrong,

There was no “progressive” willing to do a Kamikaze run against Obama’s one billion dollar war chest. There are plenty of National Democrats who object to Obama’s policies but are unwilling to hand the election to the Republicans. And seeing, for a time, there was a chance that the Elephants would hand the keys to the kingdom to Newton Leroy Gingrich … do you really blame the Donkeys?

Anonymous

When you paint yourself as the “change” candidate while financing yourself at Goldman Sachs, all bets are off.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MCA6QIPPR3EXRQRYL3MVYJSKLQ Joe

He polls high because people are afraid to be thought of as RACIST.

There is NO OTHER explanation as to why this guy can have such bad job approval numbers, but yet everyone STILL says the like him.

Plus, the msm is willing to stand behind anything that supports their narrative.

Anonymous

“He polls high because people are afraid to be thought of as RACIST.”

That is a classic NQ comment. Hall of Fame material.

Obama has been the most popular national politician in American since he was elected in November 2008. No one else has even come close.
http://wiskeytangofoxtrotoscar.blogspot.com/ James Ala

Joe, Joe, Joe

Time to switch to decaf. There are plenty of reasons for Obama to be up in the polls.

1. The economy is up. It may be a hiccup. It may be no great shakes. It may have taken too damn long; but for now people have optimism that the economy is improving. Meh, we will see if that holds up ’till the election or if the EuroZone goes kerflooey and takes the U.S. Economy with it.

2. The Republican field is really, really, really, really awful. I’ve watched the political process since 1968 and I have never seen a front runner as feckless Mitt. Every time the man get some wind in his sails, some other candidate comes up from nowhere and rains on his parade. The man is so week that I would prefer Bob Dole to put down the Viagra , pick up his pen, and run for glory.

3. Shocking to hear, or see written, but many US voters do not suffer Obama Derangement Syndrome; at least not to the degree that most of the NQ crowd does. People say they like Obama because, well, they like Obama. Weird, I know.

4. What of it? Even if Obama was at 80% and NQ commentators were spending all their spare time trying to talk Larry off a ledge; it would not make Obama correct, or a good president. Incumbents are hard to beat, that is all. Popularity proves nothing.

I have no idea why you felt a need to go to the Race Card Joe, but it does reflect badly on you. No, seriously, it does; bad move tactically, worse move strategically. You just handed your opponent your head on silver platter. Granted, typical move from far too many of Larry’s accolades, but still not very bright. Enhance your calm. It will be OK. Attack the polices not the man.
http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

Obama doesn’t have bad job approval numbers. When you look at all of the positive things he’s done when considering the terrible hand he’s bee dealt I think it’s clear that his approval numbers should be even higher.

I think the main reason they are not higher is the absurd level of polarization in this country. There are a significant number of people in this country (and many of them on NoQ) who refuse to acknowledge positives under President Obama no matter how obvious they are.

Anonymous

Not me.

The Churchill bust, putting “Bibi” in his place, and DADT.

He’s two up on GWB, who I commended for his efforts to combat famine and disease in Africa.

Give the devils their due.

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

Just because you refuse to believe something doesn’t stop it from being fact.

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

Very well said. The idea that people who support Obama are being “paid” or are “trolls” is terribly childish. I am am the opposite of being paid by Obama (I have donated quite a bit to him since 2008) … And I don’t consider myself a “troll” … a troll is someone who purposefully tries to get a rise out of people … I do not; my comments contain what I believe to be logical fact based arguments. Usually what I get in return are personal attacks.

Anonymous

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

If you have no real argument and only personally attack or name call you are a “troll”, at least that is the definition on most level-headed websites.

Anonymous

I don’t like the term “troll” either, on this sort of blog….particularly because I was always referred to as one, by the “TP” sympathizers.

On the other hand, hardcore Obama supporters that are commonly labeled “Obots” for their robotic rhetoric and aggressive palm-card prosyletizing, is a better descriptive for your manner of communication with us.

You’re much better when you speak from the heart about your candidate, then when you randomly spout unverifiable facts and figures you pull out of your ass, forgetting that facts are changeable, but the truth is permanent.

Anonymous

Instead of troll perhaps Obama’s drones is a better description. Works on so many levels.

Anonymous

In your case, your derisive tone provokes that response in people (but you knew that).

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

I’ll accept that I do sometimes have a “derisive tone.” I do find it hard to not be “derisive” or “dismissive” of people who I believe are so completely lost in an alternate reality where there is question of the President’s birth and people like Larry Sinclair are to be taken seriously.

I think there is a certainly level of reasonableness that a person must attain before their arguments can be taken seriously.

Anonymous

So telling people that do not agree with, probably will never agree with you that they are completely lost in an alternate reality is your way of having a dialog? Did that master plan ever work for you?

You seem to have appointed yourself as some kind of guru who’s job it is to come here and tell us of the error of our ways. Damn that’s arrogant.

I was going to try to communicate with you on some level but I see I was right to ignore you. You aren’t worth my time. Back to ignoring and collapsing your comments.

Anonymous

it,s the only way Marge.

Anonymous

“(I have donated quite a bit to him since 2008)”

So much for the Big Lie, that his campaign was funded by $5 donations.

Anonymous

‘So you think people have been “assigned to monitor” this site. That is funny and slighly paranoid.’
You must be new here because this comment is so uninformed. I’ll let someone else explain it to you….

Anonymous

WTF?! I’ll get my old profile pic back…..

In the meantime, thanks Larry. Long overdue.

Anonymous

I apparently am working every where with my WP ID..
Anonymous

I apparently am working every where with my WP ID..

Anonymous

“No problemo”
Anonymous

I can’t even name any blog left of center that has an open comment policy.

And they definitely don’t want you deviating in any way from whatever platform they espouse.

Also, they’re big on disappearing objectionable posts that have non-PC language. You can’t link to a million different sites that are declared “off-topic”.

On DU, they’d wait to accumulate commenters they wanted to disappear, they’d fuck up the process, and this huge block of commenters and posts would just vanish and nothing would make sense.

I supported Dean as well. And Edwards. And Gen. Clark.

Maybe I should get into gardening or something.

Anonymous

lots of Right wing blogs have the same censorship policy as Daily Ass, sorry I mean Daily Kos. I was right the first time.

Anonymous

Kos to me is just a tad worse than DU, etc., because a) they’re still in the tank for Barky and brook no dissent, and b) I find Moulitsas personally.

I’ll read a diary or two penned by acquaintances, anything regarding music or media industry gossip, but the rest leaves me cold.

I just don’t find that brand of political thought to be very authentic or helpful, right now.

Anonymous

and b) I find Moulitsas personally.

I’m going to take a guess and imagine that you intended to add the word repulsive at the end.
http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

speaking of childish name-calling – I’m seriously curious about what the whole “Barky” thing is about? what is that supposed to mean?

Anonymous

Kos to me is just a tad worse than DU, etc., because a) they’re still in the tank for Barky and brook no dissent, and b) I find Moulitsas personally.

I’ll read a diary or two penned by acquaintances, anything regarding music or media industry gossip, but the rest leaves me cold.

I just don’t find that brand of political thought to be very authentic or helpful, right now.

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

Most right wing blogs have the same policies. At Red State (which I read regularly because I’m obviously mentally ill) doesn’t even allow people to post who don’t commit to voting for the Republican nominee (no matter who he is)

Anonymous

Here’s a test…

Anonymous

now testing reply

Anonymous

another damned test
Anonymous

wtf???? Can’t post?

Anonymous

I see you.Anthony..
Anonymous

I see you.Anthony..

Anonymous

I’m for it …
Anonymous

you will have to register a verifiable email with Disqus
I thought they already had to.
Anonymous

you will have to register a verifiable email with Disqus
I thought they already had to.
Anonymous

oh.goody!!!
I can enjoy reading and posting on Noquarter. Thank you
Anonymous

Thanks for forcing me to not have to type my info every time I comment.
Anonymous

My experience with lefty blogs has been that they immediately start with ad hominem attacks if they don’t like your politics… I don’t even bother with right wing blogs anymore. NQ has always been open to ideas and discussion and has been pretty good about scouring out the crazy people. Keep on going, Larry.

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

I find this amusing considering how many names I’ve been called here for disagreeing with NoQ and considering the fact that most people here don’t even call President Obama by his real name (but instead use a variety of absurdly childish names like “Backtrack” & “Barry Soetoro”) …

I think the Barry Soetoro one is the most childish because it’s basically attacking the man becauase he had a step father as a child. Think about that. It’s terrible.

Anonymous

“I think the Barry Soetoro one is the most childish because it’s basically attacking the man becauase he had a step father as a child.”

No, it’s attacking a man who refuses to legitimize his very existence.

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

What does that even mean? … Seriously?

Anonymous

I am a “birther”.

“Birthers” question the validity of Barack Obama’s personal life story and national origins, and therefore question his eligibility to serve as president.

Key word=”question”

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

And on what basis do you have these “questions” ???

And how does Obama deny that he was known as “Barry Soetoro” at times during his childhood? Considering he’s written about his childhood and it’s a known fact that he went by “Barry” as a kid (and he’s talked about why he decided to go by his birth name later in life…)

And perhaps most importantly: How on earth is that even remotely relevant?

Anonymous

Yeah, what does that mean? Seriously?

Anonymous

I seem to recall that calling Obama by his full name: Barack Hussein Obama was considered racist by his supporters.

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

I personally love that his name is Barack Hussein Obama – I think it says something very positive about our country that he was elected with such an unusual Muslim sounding name.

That said; it’s quite obvious that when a right winger emphasizes his middle name that he’s not doing so for any positive reasons. Are you denying that?

Anonymous

Actually “Barack” is a Jewish name. I think his name is great. A Jewish name + an Muslim name + an African name. It is a bit too much for many, so we get birthers and others who want to make fun of his name. Juvenile really.

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

I didn’t know that Barack is a Jewish name. That his name is Jewish + Muslim + African is pretty cool. I think it’s interesting how people respond to this… for some of us it’s a positive for others I think it’s something to fear.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Hank-DeCat/100001190387982 Hank DeCat

Gah, you people are easily impressed. There is a lot of overlap in names among Jewish & Muslims because of the long history of LIVING IN THE SAME REGION. Jaysus Gaw Almighty. My own name (Henry) is German origin & there isn’t an ounce of German in my family, and there are a lot of English people with that same name — some famous kings in fact. That is what happens — it doesn’t make Obama have any connection whatsoever with Judaism. /rolls eyes

Anonymous

A difference between a big tent and a small and shrinking tent.

Anonymous

you do realize your tent is shrinking
http://www.facebook.com/people/Hank-DeCat/100001190387982 Hank DeCat

youmake no sense. like ever. Style over substancees

http://www.facebook.com/people/Hank-DeCat/100001190387982 Hank DeCat

To PA’s comment below:
. You make no sense –like ever. This isn’t big tent v. shrinking tent, this is another one of your STYLE over SUBSTANCE arguments & you honestly can’t tell the difference because you can’t tell sh!t from shinola. “Willard” = rich guy (?) bad; “Barrack” = “catalyst” good — seriously, WTF? If that is how you think, then I have to ask: Who puts your pants on in the a.m. because you obviously can’t dress yourself.

Anonymous

The rest of the world was quite impressed that the United States could elect someone with that name. The United States’ global popularity has gone up dramatically since Obama became President. Check the latest Pew pollling.

http://katzporch.com/ Ferd_Berfle

Wow–you are a certifiable idiot. Barack is not and never has been a “Jewish” name. Your spinning should be making you fucking dizzy.

Anonymous

I’m not a right winger. But yes, I agree with you that some on the right will use any ridiculous innuendo to slam the guy.

So I must assume that you will reap equal praise and be just as happy when we have a president named Willard.

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

There’s no comparison between “Willard” and “Barack Hussein Obama” … “Willard” is a rich white guys name – we’ve had about 43 guys that fit that description already – “Barack Hussein Obama” represents an important societal change that you are either afraid of or you celebrate.

Anonymous

I’ll admit that I don’t know many rich people. But I’ve not heard that many of them were named Willard. And thanks so much for making certain that you classified the name as belonging to a white person. Subtle.
Anonymous

Actually, I don’t celebrate the fact that in America, skin color still seems to be more important than performance record or character in the selection of a president or, for that matter, the selection of anyone for anything. Wouldn’t it be great it we had reached that stage of societal progress where skin color isn’t a factor in politics? At the moment, it seems to me that the use of skin color in politics is pretty much used to our detriment by both sides of an argument, sometimes to pathetically that it amazes even a cynic like me.

Anonymous

Yes Martin Luther King said as much something about judging a man by his character rather than the color of his skin. But to tell you the truth, as I see it, I have seen more misogyny than racism in recent politics. People who would dare say that they wouldn’t vote for Obama because he is black open have said to me that a woman couldn’t handle being Potus.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Hank-DeCat/100001190387982 Hank DeCat

Wrong as usual — pretending that someone’s NAME makes them into some catalyst of “important societal change” is just more of this generation’s inability to distinguish STYLE from SUBSTANCE. “A rose by any other name. . .”
Anonymous

”Barack Hussein Obama”is his name
Anonymous

To celebrate simply because of his race makes you a racist! I do not care what color anyones skin is I care about their character. Obama is a criminal same as G W Bush, the only difference between the two is…ok well I haven’t found much of one. Unless you count Bush was only a friend of Satan (Dick Cheney) While Obama is his relative!

Anonymous

Marvin
I’ve been called many names here as well… that’s just part of the game, but people here tend to attack my arguments not my person, that’s what counts for me.
As to politicians – you can call any of them anything you want so far as I’m concerned, they asked for it when they entered the political arena. I’ll stop calling them names when they start talking about y’know “issues”.
Some of the names are pretty funny, I like to use “BO(zo)” because it describes how I feel about him and of course Dan Savage has made “Santorum” a household word…
Some things really bother me, like the right wing use of “Democrat Party”, it’s insulting, derogatory and was created to try to marginalize an entire political party. But I’m not so much upset with the Republicans about this, it’s a brilliant bit of propagandizing – I’m pissed off that no one in the newsroom or discussion group ever pushes back on this, they should be smacked upside the head every time they use it…

Anonymous

“but people here tend to attack my arguments not my person, that’s what counts for me.”
Almost no one on NQ actually attacks the arguments. They just personally atttack, including Larry Johnson himself. Just a bunch of name calling which degrades the discussion and the website. Just look at all the name calling on this string of posts (how many times is Obot or whatever mentioned).

Anonymous

Obot isn’t a name, it’s a classification.

Anonymous

I guess you could say the same for NQbot. Funny stuff, but it gets us no where.

Anonymous

lol. O’Bot resonates.

NQbot lands with a thud.

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

Well, I’ll agree with you on the “Democrat” thing. It’s amazing to me that they get away with this with so little push back from the media (in fact I think I’ve only seen it corrected once… I think it was Chris Matthews.)

Certainly you have every right to call the President childish names — but I think it’s hard to do that and then ask for a more civil reasoned conversation at the same time.

That said; Obviously many on the left called Bush names … although “Dubya” doesn’t seem as bad as the names used for Obama here, maybe that’s just a matter of my perspective.
Anonymous

Consider that we the people pay for the salaries of politicians I think we have every right to call them whatever the hell name we desire. They are supposed to work for us, not the other way around.
Anonymous

“like the right wing use of “Democrat Party”, it’s insulting, derogatory
and was created to try to marginalize an entire political party. But
I’m not so much upset with the Republicans about this, it’s a brilliant
bit of propagandizing – I’m pissed off that no one in the newsroom or
discussion group ever pushes back on this, they should be smacked upside
the head every time they use it…”
Thanks, Craig. It continues to bug my hubby and myself that no one ever gets called on it. I’d love to see someone corrected as many times as is necessary on television.

Anonymous

Dubya
Shrub
Chimpy McFlightSuit
Commander in Thief
Curious George
Miserable Failure

And those are just off the top of my head.

WHAAAAAA somebody called my guy a bad name, WHAAAAAA…grow up already.

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

Did using those names for Bush encourage a rational debate during Bush’s terms? Does using childish names for Obama encourage rational debate today?

Don’t you see that by using these names for the President you are marginalizing yourselves as people not to be taken seriously?

No thoughtful serious person is going to resort to this kind of childish name calling.

Anonymous

Utter nonsense, Marvin. The names we called Bush were used to blow off steam. Plenty of policy was discussed afterward.

It’s time for you to reread your copy of Cicero. In Rhetoric, everything is legitimate.

Anonymous

What about all the names libs called Bush? Do you now distance yourself from them as well?

Anonymous

“…the names libs called Bush?”

Doing my best Jimmy Swaggart: “I have sinned!!!!”

Anonymous

I find your comment amusing. After I have been personally called every name in the book and a few not put in the book because bad language by Obama supporters. I’m not referring to anything I have been called on this blog because I came to NQ rather late. Now the left is sensitive to the names some of us call Obama give me a break. The thing I noticed was that it was Obama supporters which started the name calling during the 2008 Dem primary mostly to Hillary and her supporters.

As far as rational discussion goes I have all but given up on that idea with anyway from the left. However if things change and I see an Obama supporter who really wants to discuss issue rationally I may change my mind. Until then I reserve the right to call BO anything I want except I will not resort to profanity.

Anonymous

I will debate any issue with you at any time. If you leave your junvenile attacks on Obama behind, we might even be able to have an interesting conversation.

Anonymous

If you didn’t note what I said in my post I’ll repeat it as follows:

“However if things change and I see an Obama supporter who really wants
to discuss issue rationally I may change my mind.”

All I have seen you do is repeat the same old Democratic talking points which I have heard over and over again. Its good however that you folks have learned a new word I keep seeing the word juvenile in these latest post. Have a nice night.

Anonymous

“All I have seen you do is repeat the same old Democratic talking points..”

Really? Like what?

Again, an easy cop-out to avoid discussing the issues. You just discount anyone who does not repeat the NQ party line as using “old Democratic talking points”. Lame.

Anonymous

Rather than getting into a pissing contest with you I’ll just let the other readers make the judgement whether what I said is true. I’m assuming that the other reader have read your posts. Then I don’t have to waste my time and focus in a pointless argument with you.

Anonymous

Obamabanos.

So. de de de de debate me th th this…

Was the US involvement in Lybia constitutional?

Anonymous

Thank you.
Anonymous

Oh happy day!!!!!
The coffee tastes much better this morning.
http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew J. Weaver

Good move. I’d even go so far as make all commenters to post under their real name. Make people publicly accountable for what they write.

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

You take away the anonymous nature of the internet and it would change greatly indeed… perhaps in some ways for the positive but it seems to me to be the idea of an old man, not the idea of someone who grew up with the internet.

I’m not necessarily arguing one way or the other about it… I probably wouldn’t post comments on political blogs if I had to use my real name. (No Marvin Marks is not my real name)

This isn’t because I don’t believe the things I say (I do) but because I don’t necessarily want everyone I know to be able to easily find the things I say. I think anonymous commenting helps lead to a more open realistic dialog in many instances.

Anonymous

but it seems to me to be the idea of an old man, not the idea of someone who grew up with the internet.

Don’t tell me that you actually pulled out the age card.

By your measure, many of us would fall into that category. Just because we didn’t grow up with the internet doesn’t mean we don’t understand it.

Anonymous

The age card has been played more than once here. Scotty played it often against Ferd. Then calls others bigots. But perhaps ageism is one of those acceptable isms.

Anonymous

I probably will never agree with you on anything again but I do agree with your comment above with the exception of the “old man” comment. But this exception is due to being an “old man” myself. When I was growing up a computer was a plastic pencil box with a kind of mechanical abacus on top so a kid could cheat in on his Arithmetic (Math).

Anonymous

I don’t like the concept of my co-workers, neighbors or potential employers knowing what my political views are. I believe we all have the right to privacy and as long as we aren’t crossing lines or starting trouble that anonymity should be respected.

http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew J. Weaver

If it is privacy you wish, maybe you shouldn’t be writing it. Otherwise, in my opinion, you should write only what your willing to put your name on. Besides, a bit of sunshine would make the Internets a much nice place.

Anonymous

I appreciate your point of view but I have to earn a living and maintain good professional relationships with lots of folks, Obama supporters included. So a nom de plume it is for me.

If I get out of hand it’s simple enough to ban me. And besides, I am quite certain that Mr. Johnson with his contacts has the ability to determine who I am if it’s a problem.

And besides all that, I sincerely believe that we all have the right to privacy. Just because you show me yours doesn’t mean I am required, or need to, show you mine.

Anonymous

”I suspect a lot of what is written would quickly disappear if people
faced/risked their community, co-workers, neighbors, and family seeing
what they wrote.”

Great comment! That’s why I have always used my name on my posts to NQ and my email name (an abbreviation of my actual name). It forces you to be honest about what you’re writing – and probably makes you a bit more tolerant and polite in the comments.
Anonymous

I don’t personally care about who is commenting on this blog. The one exception being foul language and or threats.

Anonymous

Thank you Larry. Does this mean we no longer have to put up with Obama’s 2012 Truth Teams?

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

Yeah – you wouldn’t want the truth to interfere with the alternate reality of Obama haters, eh?

Anonymous

Thanks, I needed a good belly laugh.
Anonymous

Marvin, Marvin, Marvin, you sweet misguided thing you – the 2012 Truth Teams are not about spreading the truth, the teams are about spreading propaganda. Remember when the Bush Admin. tried to do that? It went down in a flame of glory. Let’s see what did they want to call it? Oh yes, Office of Misinformation.or was that Disinformation. Same thing.

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

Depends on your perspective I suppose. I see the misinformation coming from the Republicans.

Everything on the The Truth Team websites is verifiable fact.The “Truth Teams” are there to quickly respond to the many lies told about Obama and his policies. They learned the lessons of John Kerry’s slow response in 2004 … we saw in 2008 that the Obama team will respond swiftly (that’s a little Swift Boat reference for ya) to right wing lies told about him … and they are stepping that up this year.

Anonymous

There you go again – “verifiable facts”. Nothing that comes out of this administration is a fact that has not been colored. This administration loves to “twist the truth”.

This is going to be a fun year with you onboard Marvin.
Anonymous

Funny how there is no mention of fast and furious there
No mention of NDAA2012
No mention of a failure to react immediately to Deep Horizon disaster w/ the approved plan Created just for that specially for situation.
No mention that- No other sitting President ever left a head state of an allied nation in the oval office waiting, to attend dinner w/ his family
No mention the several different reasons President Obama used to explain his vote against Born Alive while he was Senator.
No mention of his failure to find shovel ready projects to spend that 800 thousand stimulous money and yet it All was spent Some was even spent in districts that didn’t exsist.

Verifiable?

Anonymous

Thank you Larry. Does this mean we no longer have to put up with Obama’s 2012 Truth Teams?
Anonymous

I got kicked off HuffPost and Talking Points Memo. For my views, and not for any silly trash talking ad hominums.

http://wiskeytangofoxtrotoscar.blogspot.com/ James Ala

You got tossed off because your views were most likely thrash talking ad hominems. Maybe you should stop referring to Obama a “Barky” or as a Kenyan (or any other kind of) socialist or indulge in any of the other views so loved in the hermetically sealed environment of NQ? But what fun would that be? If you’re truly “blocked” ei shut down at the I P address, well maybe you should take that as a hint to tone down your rhetoric a bit? Oh, right, this is NQ; never mind.

Anonymous

If these NQ commentators talk the way they do on this site with all their personal attacks it would not be surprising they would get thrown off more civil websites.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Hank-DeCat/100001190387982 Hank DeCat

I was already registered (via Facebook) and can’t believe other jokers didn’t have to do the same — it all makes sense now. But with the availability of free emails (hotmail, google, etc) I think the trolls will be able to get around the rule. Nonetheless, it will be a nice break.

http://twitter.com/Juliezzz Juliezzz

ugh facebook. Why would anyone want to use facebook?

http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

if you are seriously asking? … to keep up with friends …

Anonymous

You have friends ?

http://www.facebook.com/people/Hank-DeCat/100001190387982 Hank DeCat

Um, to post on blogs like this one, duh. Pretty self-explainatory in my OP, actually.
Anonymous

People use FB so they can interact with somebody while knowing who they are. If they get pissed off…. you can always Unfriend somebody.

Anonymous

I don’t know why it matters if the Obamabots comment here, as no one believes their lies about their savior and emperor. They don’t even believe it.

Anonymous

Exactly. If you stop feeding them, they’ll subsist on their own dung for a while, but eventually they will have to go foraging somewhere else. The sooner the better.
http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

You seem to assume a lot about the motives of other people. When you make assumptions about other people’s motives then you can no longer have a reasonable discussion.

And when you say “no one” believes their “lies” you are speaking in such a way that makes it clear that you are not willing to have a rational discussion of ideas & policy.

Obviously many people do believe President Obama and obviously those of us who do believe him do not think we are telling “lies” … quite on the contrary.

This is not to say that I think Obama does not “play politics” (obviously he does, he’s the President and he must – it’s quaint idealism to think he could do otherwise) and this is not to say I’m pleased with everything his administration has done (of course not… there are some areas where they have done things that I think are fundamentally wrong) … but I am willing to step back and see the big picture. And when I do so; I see positive movement in the right direction (which for me is the left direction as I think we need a more progressive government & society.) I read a book about FDR a couple of years ago that was very enlightening and which helps shape my perspective. When we look back on FDR now we mostly see a liberal hero who helped make this a more fair society — but at the time there were many people who attacked him from all sides (including liberals who said he wasn’t doing enough.) I think it’s key to keep this in mind today.

Anonymous

“And when you say “no one” believes their “lies” you are speaking in such a way that makes it clear that you are not willing to have a rational discussion of ideas & policy. “

You know, you’re 100% right. Obviously you (and one other) believe their lies, so that makes your case, I suppose.

Pretty soon, it will be just you, PA and Scottymac commenting here.

What will be interesting to see is if you get banned or not. Larry has stated many times that this blog is more for its therapeutic value to himself, which I completely understand and support.

Do you really think he’s going to put up with your particular brand of bullshit much longer?

Anonymous

Yes we will see if the censorship continues at NQ.

Marvin Marks is always civil and makes good comments. Too bad you cannot deal with his different viewpoint and only want to ban those that you disagree with.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Hank-DeCat/100001190387982 Hank DeCat

If by “good comments” you mean blindly repeating WH talking points ad naseum without any hint of critical thinking skills, then yeah. MediaMattersMarvin & MediaMattersPA are more apropos handles for you two.

Anonymous

If you think MM or myself “blindly repeat WH talking points” then please tell us what those talking points are we are repeating. I have no clue what the WH is saying. It is too easy a cop-out to just dismiss our comments because you don’t like them as saying we are just repeating WH talking points. Kind of lame.

Anonymous

I have no clue what the WH is saying.

That’s why we call em Obots!

Anonymous

I’m not really interested in your opinion of me. But good show! Now, sod off

Anonymous

Marv- When you say u step back and look at the “big” picture. Like suing states that are enforcing federal immigration laws or essentially committing acts of war with our neighbors to the south or failing to investigation non partisan reports of voter intimidation by election officials or etc etc etc

Just what picture are you seeing?
Anonymous

You have more than the usual amount of hypocrisy we mortal humans all carry to complain about assumptions after all the assumptions you made here about various people and Republicans in general. Talk about the pot and the kettle!

Anonymous

Oh great a new way process to b ignored
Well, Game on… Tally Oh … BINGO … Or whatever else pass’ as an affirmative gamesmanship reply.

Permission to come aboard sir
Anonymous

about time!!!!
https://openid.aol.com/opaque/adf0e480-58ed-11e1-8683-000bcdca4d7a Mandelay

Not sure why you even need to explain, Mr. J. Your blog and your rules are fine by me. Sad to be reminded that there are such critters as “Obama trolls” (or for that matter any other trolls) as being “assigned to monitor and do the (fill in the blank) spin to counter the facts” could not possibly be such a good way to spend one’s limited time on this planet. So be it. Sorry you had to endure the aggravation. Your blog is a public service, offering lots to learn, question and think about with regard to many, many important subjects. Carry on!

Anonymous

Carry on! indeed.

Anonymous

Larry wrote, ” If you don’t like it, tough.” You’re sounding more and more like Obama and crew each day.
http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

Diana,
Please let me know who was attacking you.

Anonymous

Scottymnac54, of course!

It was a simple thing. I had been so busy last semester teaching that I was away from the net and didn’t get here often.

I did notice when the blowup between Scottymac and Ferd and Katmoon first started. It was because Bronwyn had published one of his comments in one of her posts. At that time, I said that I could find some of what he wrote o.k., but that I hadn’t liked the way he was writing invective against other people on the site.

Later, we were able to abide each other on several posts and just keep our distance. (I believe this was after the others had left.)

But when my time freed up and I had more time on my hands, I was reading a post and kininthenorthwest commented that she missed RRRA’s posts. I simply responded with a suggestion that she read them on Kat’s new blog. That’s when Scotty wrote back calling them the “Dreg’s of Dixie.”

I asked him to back off my friends and not reply to me again, and the only reason I responded to him was that I didn’t want any of them reading his response and thinking I agreed with his calling them that.

I asked him not to reply to me again and promised I wouldn’t reply to him either. His response in upper case was “REQUEST DENIED.”

At that time, I did something I am not proud of. I enlisted a friend, who would be glad to have his Disqus email address verified, to “dog” Scottymac for a while. When things got too out of hand, my friend did inform him that he would no longer “dog” him by replying in nasty ways to his comments but that we just wanted him to see that if someone asks you to keep your distance, you should keep your distance. We haven’t replied to him since, but then I haven’t until now commented here since then. It was during this exchange that he responded to my friend that I should go back to the “plantation,” I guess meaning Kat’s site.

It’s fine with me. I DO plan to keep reading. And I have always admired your willingness to let all sides have their say. It just didn’t ever seem to be so nasty as it has been lately. Perhaps it can be blamed on the entire state of politics in our country right now. It makes me sad. And politics is clearly a nasty endeavor, something we can’t help must notice recently. I just shouldn’t involve myself in it at all at this point, other than to read and be prepared to vote the way that seems best.

(And, Linda Anselmi, I am sorry I left you out. And I loved Breeze’s links.)

Anonymous

Scotty is now on moderation. Unless he writes to me and promises to behave in an appropriate way he will not be back.

Anonymous

Thank you!
Anonymous

thank you for that. I mainly see different articles and post the links to them here. I have tried to ignore scottymac but it has been difficult.
I have learned a lot from the different writers here. I used to enjoy coming here but lately it has been very ugly. It is your blog and I respect your right to allow whomever you wish to comment. You have been very fair for a long while and that is appriecated. But now it is just getting more ugly by the day

Anonymous

I agree HelenK2. Most of the time you have to wade through mud to find a comment worth responding to or discussing. Some days it’s simply not worth the effort. And that’s sad because I love NQ. Trolls and all until Scotty took over.
Anonymous

love the links.
HELENK2
THANKS

BINKY

Larry, thank you for that. I’ve been coming here since 2007 and admittedly I don’t contribute much in the way of comments, so if I’m not here, no one would miss me. I’ve lost a lot of my verbal ability and I write very simply — am praying it’s not early onset of alsheimers — neither here or there. But over the last 6 months at least, there’s been a poison turned loose that’s dampens the positive feeling I always got here. I respect your analysis of foreign and domestic issues and I share almost all your articles with friends who do not visit this site unless I send them an article. Just this week, I think it was, I felt attacked by ScottyMac54 and I thought it was not deserved; usually he leaves me alone. We had trolls aplenty during 2007 and I miss a lot of the contributors who have moved on, but the atmosphere then did not seem poisoned by the trolls. Just saying…

Anonymous

Binky you and I don’t always agree but I think we’ve managed it without invective and mudslinging. That’s what adult conversation and discussion is about.

That said, I would miss you if you weren’t here and I’m sure others would too. We all contribute to this community in our own way.

One of the things I missed most when Ferd left was the feeling that when, and I do mean when not if, Scotty attacked, there would be someone who would have my back.

I didn’t, and don’t enjoy the ensuing fights but I didn’t feel as if I was alone.
Anonymous

“so if I’m not here, no one would miss me.”

…not true Binky.

Anonymous

Bronwyn, why have I been placed on moderation?

Haven’t you even SEEN what has been going on here?

I happen to LOVE the fact that DianaLC posts here! But she CAN be imperious and bossy at times…

For whatever reason, that usually manifests itself at me. Obviously, I’m going to push back against that, especially when she’s apparently being egged on by former commenters, who just don’t like my political opinions and want me to disappear, for that alone.

I’ve given these people every opportunity to tell me what I am to do, so that the rest of our commenters do not have to be held hostage by ferd and onofre, who have publicly declared their intentions to “clean up” NQ, with “a few other friends”.

There is a schism among commenters, it apparently is focused entirely on me, and there is no interest whatsoever on their part, in coming to any sort of understanding that allows all of us, to coexist in peace, because they do not BELIEVE in peace.

This morning, the commenter sybill, came by, out of a clear blue sky, to berate me. In the heat of argument, MONTHS ago, I used a crude reference to express my frustration, and have always felt badly about my choice of imagery.

So I apologize for it, when she resurfaces, and AGAIN, the rage puppets swoop down.

I have NO idea what has gotten in DianaLC….there’s no reason to believe its anything but a desire to see this endless sniping stop, but its completely false for the ferd contingent to continually stir up dischord by painting me as this “Obot” monster, and projecting their political frustrations on me alone.

DianeLC is TOTALLY WRONG to be enlisting “friends” to “dog” any comments of mine. DianeLC is TOTALLY WRONG to think that she has any right to post comments, particularly inflammatory ones that address me by name, and command me not to respond.

If any commenter wants to post any comment on a blog, and thinks they have a right to pick and choose, who has a right to defend themselves or not, then why post the comment in the first place, if not to gain unfair advantage in debate?

DianaLC has NEVER been a commenter, who wanted to “throwback” our society, to this nostalgic fever dream of reality, the right wingers led by Ferd, want for us.

I literally have been hoping for her to be less defensive, because I’ve had relevant questions about the warehousing of unemployed in community colleges, and ethnic minorities in Russia, and she has unique insights into these subjects!

I don’t get why, all of a sudden, she’s painting herself as a victim, with me as a villain, and I think it’s obvious that outside forces that want me gone, are exploiting this.

Bronwyn, you and Larry, once and for all, need to tell me what you want me to do, and I will do it.

If you want me to stop commenting and just read for a while, I will.

If you want me to stop commenting altogether, I will.

But to put me on moderation and publicly humiliate me in front of these lunatic dissidents who hate this blog, regard BOTH of us as renegade “retrogressives” and consider us BOTH an obstacle to their political goals, is just WRONG, particularly when I’ve had not a word of feedback from you, or Larry, either way.

Do YOU guys consider me a “troll”, or am I an asset to this blog?

Or, would you really rather have the ferd contingent back, and in control of the comments section? Because that’s what this is ultimately about.

You guys need to tell me what you want me to do about this, because these divisions and diversions cannot continue, in the midst of an important political season.

FWIW, the tone of my comments, have always been directly proportionate, to those I’ve been given.

I have no interest in other online efforts, that stand in opposition to this blog, but now they are blaming ME, alone, for divisions in their political party, their nuttiness has helped foster!

This nonsense has to stop. I gave them ample opportunity to take their best shots, last night, and no one but sybill availed themselves of that opportunity, which gave me the chance to make amends, for yet ANOTHER unresolved grudge.

Now, this “Onofre’s Arm” nutjob and Ferd are on the warpath, and they’ve picked NOW, to resurface. I’ve seen my screenname hijacked for comments I’ve had nothing to do with being written, DianaLC is using proxies I don’t know from Adam to make some kind of stand that I don’t understand, over some control issue.

I am asking you, Bronwyn, to advise me as to what you want me to do, because this all started up when you asked me if my post on self-diagnosed racism could be posted under my name, which set Katmoon off, and, from that point, it’s been open season. Over which, I have NEVER bothered management over.

Larry did advise me in the comments to grow a thicker skin. I did that.

If these people really intend to disrupt this blog over me alone, and it’s better for NQ for me to leave and Ferd to serve as “attack dog” against the “Obot” invasion, that’s fine. Just TELL me that.

But I reserve the right to argue the left’s position, the centrist position, the “liberty” position…whatever position I agree with. I should NOT have to submit to conservative talking points, just to go along to get along.

Now Hokma is starting in with his slurs against myself and another guy, just because we don’t adhere to his Middle East positions. All of a sudden. And, always, over this and OWS.

This is ridiculous.

You have my email. Everyone has my email, for that matter. Please let me know.
Anonymous

Thank you, Larry

Anonymous

“(And if one of the recent commenters does reply, my friend RemyLB–who, as I do, has a verified Disqus account–will step back in to hound him awhile again.)”

EXCUSE ME????

Diana, please don’t come back.

Folks, this woman needs to stop playing games and telling me what to do.

Anonymous

Scotty,
I’m putting you on moderation. I don’t mind caustic comments on substance but you spend way too much time personally attacking a variety of commentators. Diana has always been a positive contributor. What bug is up your ass? I suggest you write me directly to sort this out. I need to understand your dysfunction.

Anonymous

”I need to understand your dysfunction.”

That is grist for a doctoral thesis on irrational thought as a general matter not exclusive to said perp.

Anonymous

Yeah, but I don’t need no stinkin teleprompter to remember what it is I wanted to say. Now, what were we talking about?
http://katzporch.com/ Ferd_Berfle

I enjoyed the time I spent here over the course of the years, particularly with the likes of a stellar crowd that included Onofre’s Arm, oowawa, Diana LC, Abigail Adams, Binky, Geoff C., HelenK, Breeze, StrawberryBitch (long ago), creeper, Noogan, KintheNorthwest, DocElder, Doc99, Olivia1998, Madame DeFarge, PssttCmere, Kenoshamarge, AC, Galt, and many others (and I’m sorry if I didn’t mention you but I tried).

I will set the record straight here and if any troll wants to argue with me–so be it. I”m always game to shoot them down.

I DID NOT leave NQ because of LJ’s dislike of Herman Cain. Quite the contrary, Larry allowed Kat and I to actually post our views on Herman when he came to Harriman, TN. To this day, I am still thankful that Larry did this for us. It gave us both the understanding that we could write and blog. Larry did us a favor and not the other way around.

I left this websiste because of one and only one commenter and that was ScottyMac54, a known anti-Semite and general troll. Every web presence he habituates becomes a den for trolls and miscreants. He is scum.

I will reiterate–I left because of ScottyMac and for no other reason.

So when Snootful tells you otherwise, you can remember this comment.

And let me state again for the record the same thing I said last October–anybody but O’Blivion. I liked herman but i will vote for whomever the GOP nominates.

I said it then and and confirming it now.

That said, thanks all for the great times.

Ferd

http://katzporch.com/ Ferd_Berfle

How could I leave out HARP? Sorry, friend.
Anonymous

WOW. That is a hateful post of another poster. How do you prove that somebody is what you claim? Because they disagree with you. I have seen many of his or her comments and not seen it. I guess it is good you are gone… and the same should go for anybody else who attacks somebody in the same manner. There is one thing to disagree and having heated conversations… the name calling, calling somebody a racist and anti-semite is so primary 2008.

http://katzporch.com/ Ferd_Berfle

Wow.

Snotty is a “he” BTW, so you really are clueless.

And you also said on an earlier thread (late October) that I left because of the Cain thing, which makes you doubly clueless, troll. You never asked me, did you? You just made a stupid assumption which is par for the course with morons like you. I stand by my comment and also stand by my opinion that you’re a damnable idiot.

I really have no patience any longer for stupid comments and yours is truly that.

Live in your bubble, twerp.

Anonymous

You sure are one miserable person the way you attack. I have no clue who was or is a Cain supporter. I like him myself. So you can take your stupid assumptions and apply it to yourself. I merely commented on the fact that you call somebody an anti-semite and I would like to know why that is. I have not seen it, but then again I don’t read all posts. You are all the words you call me… pretty sad and pathetic.

http://katzporch.com/ Ferd_Berfle

Look, dink, I made a comment which you failed to read in its entirety and then took me to task for my valid concerns. But you, like all good trolls, made an issue out of nothing at all.

Since I don’t really care what automatons like you think, I’ll invite you to fornicate yourself. No one else will, for sure,

Anonymous

LMAO at the obsurdity of this. This automaton troll moron clueless damnable twerp idiot is going to climb under a rock and watch some almost as amusing TV show now.

http://katzporch.com/ Ferd_Berfle

LMAO at the obsurdity of this. This automaton troll moron clueless
damnable twerp idiot is going to climb under a rock and watch some
almost as amusing TV show now.
========
You are? Good for you. The first step is admitting you’re an automaton and troll.

Do get another line of work, tiny.
http://katzporch.com/ Ferd_Berfle

And apparently YOU like Snotty, which speaks volumes about your taste and intelligence.

And with this comment I bid adieu to NQ.

Anonymous

I don’t know Scotty or whatever… so I don’t play that game. I don’t remember all the people who comment. I remember the people who write. So talk about assumptions.

Anonymous

So Ferd… The rules do not apply to you? What gives you the right to mock another?

Who do you think you are? Someone special?

Larry… Now you took a position of commenting. Where are we going with this one?

Anonymous

Wow!

I don’t know whether I am more disappointed to see Ferd return only to make such an attack (when I know he is a better person than this) or that this is liked so much it is the “most popular” thread.

What a nice welcome mat for every reader.

Anonymous

”What a nice welcome mat for every reader”

Exactly…..

BINKY

I didn’t read that as a hateful post. I guess it’s in the eye of the beholder.

Anonymous

I think anything calling somebody else racist and anti-semite hateful. So sue me.
Anonymous

It’s a fair explanation since Scotty has claimed that Ferd, and others who simply were not willing to put up with him any longer were paid commenters. That’s a lie that has been repeated again and again.

The anti-semite claim has been made by more than one. I quite honestly don’t know.

I have long since decided that I will not be a part of the name-calling and attacks. There are several commenters that I simply do not engage with in any way. I collapse their comments and move along.

Anonymous

“were paid commenters. That’s a lie that has been repeated again and again”

I have been called a “paid commentator” many times. LJ has even said I have been assigned by the WH to monitor his website in an attempt to try and demean my comments.

Are you also against that? or does the NQ “double standard” continue?

Anonymous

Look, every post from you says how much you hate NQ. Then why are you here?

Anonymous

To give the other viewpoint.

Anonymous

Well in that case let me say I LIKE NQ so you can enjoy being contrarian. Your turn again.

Anonymous

a wise move Marge.

Anonymous

Scotty is gone now. Banned for his continuous, personally directed invective.

Anonymous

It will be interesting to see if you hold the same standard to everyone on here.

80% of your readers often always do nothing but make “continuous personally directed invective” attacks on anyone who agrees with Obama. Plenty of name calling and questioning of motives. I have even had HARP2 say that I should have been aborted.

I hope you keep the higher standard you have set by banning “Scotty”.

Get rid of all the disruptive “trolls” who use personal attacks and name calling. Keep the conversation for those who want to argue policy, facts and the issues.

However, somehow I think there will continue to be the NQ “double standard”.

Anonymous

And with any luck, you’ll be next…

Anonymous

What is the matter you have such a thin skin that you cannot take a little debate or decenting viewpoints around here?

Always easier to censor than deal with an opposing view. Lame.

Anonymous

Yep Democrats are all about choice, so if it would have been my call you would have been aborted.

Anonymous

I guess the sunny side of Obama’s free contraceptive mandate is that women will have no reason to get abortions unless their life is in danger.

Anonymous

???

First it is not necessarily free. You still have to pay for insurance. Second, women use the pill for a lot of healthcare issues other than for stopping getting pregnant.

Anonymous

LJ… I disagree with this move banning Scotty or anyone without warning. Either post site commenting rules and have “everyone” follow them or just let this become the wild wild west of the net. Which no one really wants.

But at least fire a warning shot before banning or moderating…..That is of course fair…
Anonymous

Bronwyn, I have a strange deja vu feeling about all this. Didn’t I go through this in High School? People having to take sides when the alphas – Ferd and Scotty go head-to-head and the teacher trying to sort it out.
So I guess I’ll do what I did then and watch this by myself from the sidelines (or perhaps with Steve and Craig).

Anonymous

good to hear you Ferd . you and Kat have been missed.hugsabunch to you both.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HGANMGQB7HNZG62RMJSQH4BVGQ Puma GSD

Larry,

In this troubled country we are living in it
is like life support to some place
to express honest factural views.
The media in the US will not
report what is really happening.
Once a history major I see all the
shades of what happened in Germany.

Thank you so much!
Anonymous

I am so out of the loop of all the personal stuff on here… I have to say that I feel like I am at a dog park and people are just pissing everywhere to claim territory. I come here to read what people think and occasionally comment… it seems things have been festering for a long time. Too bad, for a very informative blog.

Anonymous

I see it more like leaving doggie doo doo and not a pooper scooper in sight.
Anonymous

that’s why I have been coming here for the last 4 years.

Anonymous

It’s too bad people attack one another though. Got a dose yesterday for questioning why somebody called someone else an anti-semite. I know other blogs, not politically inclined, where you are allowed to say anything about the subject or object in question… but you can not address other commenters personally. I always felt it was a bit repressive… but now I know why. It’s like being on many other political blogs. Such a shame. The writers on NQ often have insightful stories though… and I share many on FB and get discussions there. Any clue what happened to American Girl in Italy or something? I enjoyed her posts.

Anonymous

People are making threats? WTF is this? All so very Juvenile. You sure are right, that is what the political hacks want.
Anonymous

Yikes.
It is getting weirder and weirder. Larry provides a fair and open forum and all he asks for is honest comments and people not to attack each other. I think the last time I said that I got attacked as a suck-up.
Perhaps because I don’t get out much I didn’t attach a history to Scottymac and his comments didn’t seem worse than the old gang. But DIANA??!! How could anyone attack Diana?

Having said that, there is a lovefest further down between Marvin Marks and PPAA over Obama’s name and how much that name made the world love Americans that made me want to upchuck. I think I have to leave – my blood sugar level is getting dangerously high.

Anonymous

“people not to attack each other”

So then you go on in the second paragraph and attack me and Marvin Mark’s because we said we like Obama’s name. You should be consistent.

Anonymous

I’ll be honest with you. I think it is a good thing that America elected a black president. But only in the theoretical sense that we have moved on from our racist past. I just don’t support this particular president. He could be brown, red, yellow, white or purple for all I care. I object to his policies, not his racial genetics.

Anonymous

Great.. then debate the policies.

Anonymous

I knew that you’d react that way. But I didn’t call you ignorant and moronic and stupid. I didn’t call you names. I just reported my reaction to your comments – especially the one about how the rest of the world loves America now because we elected someone with a name like Obama’s.

Anonymous

So true. I own a business and see empty stores in my strip mall.
Anonymous

Seems like you have been reading fairy tales again. There are numerous stories out there that differ from yours.

Anonymous

Sorry comments posting in the wrong place. Don’t know how to fix.

Anonymous

Try going to the top of the comments and you will see a drop box for how you want to display them.

Anonymous

I am surprised at the hostile animosity displayed by some of the commenters. Giving hell to Obots is one thing but raising hell with people that are essentially on the same side is counter-productive and out of place considering the stakes in the upcoming election.

Most of us here are united by the fact that we want Obama to be a one term president. The fights seem to be over who the nominee to take him on should be. And some are so rabid in their support for one particular candidate over another that they think using Gingrich like attacks are acceptable. They aren’t.

Perhaps I have no place making these statements. After all, I am not a Republican nor a conservative (whatever the hell that really is). I’m just a former disaffected Democrat that is now a disinfected Independent.

Anonymous

So basically you are suggesting that after a minimal GOP primary season that everyone who intends to vote Republican should just fall in line behind a single candidate. No debate. No democracy. Who should that single candidate be? And in answer that candidate you are only giving you own opinion. No one on NQ should have a different view and everyone should fall in line behind Larry Johnson’s candidate? Why does that make sense? If the GOP candidates and the GOP itself cannot take the debate, then how will they deal with the much more intense debate that is likely going to come from the Democrats?

Anonymous

I’ve suggested nothing of the sort. What I pointed out is that some of these attacks have crossed lines. Calling people anti-Semites and racists is ridiculous. They are nice little dog whistle attacks that are impossible to defend oneself against. And that is their purpose. They stifle debate. If one can be labeled a racist then everything they say, regardless of how valid the point of view is, is obscured because the source of the information is tainted. And this is intentional.

One of the reasons I didn’t support O for the Dem nomination was because his supporters labeled those of us that supported another candidate as racists. This despite the fact that there was not a single shred of evidence to prove the accusation. Then, when some of us supported McCain for president, we were again labeled racists. And all of this coming from the supporters of a candidate who actually sat in a obviously racist church for 20 years.

I have always supported equal rights for everyone. It has been the foundation of my life’s viewpoint toward others since my youth. I do not support “special” rights, or set-aside rights, or lower standards for minorities to get jobs. If that makes me a racist in your opinion then so be it.

What I am against is this circle jerk firing squad that reminds me too much of the 2008 Dem nomination fight. I know only too well how that ended up. What I am suggesting is that we need to step back a little and start focusing on who the real “enemy” is and unite to defeat it.

Anonymous

I see nothing about “racism” in you coment above. Your comments can very well be interpreted as “fall in line”.

Who of any significance called anyone a racist for not supporting Obama and supporting either Clinton or McCain? That is a joke.

Provide some actually proof of that outlandish statement instead of just talking out of your ass.

“racist church” Really?

Seems like it is you yourself that likes to play the race card.

And how will you vote this time when the GOP plays the race card in a big way in this election, which very much looks like that is going to happen (cue what Gingrich has already been saying).

Anonymous

Sorry flopflipper, disqus is putting all my comments in the wrong place. The fairy tale line was for the guy who believed that Obama was in control of getting Obama.

Anonymous

Not a problem. I could tell it was a computer mistake.

Anonymous

Bronwyn, I don’t have your email address anymore….it’s been a long time since we’ve last communicated.

I was unable to get through on the general NQ address.

Could you please let me know the best email address to contact you?

I’m at the same one I have been all along, but I’m a bit reluctant to post it here.

Your prior comment indicated that I’d been placed on moderation, so I fully expected my comment above to revert to a mod queue.

Obviously, it did not, so I’m not sure what’s going on here.

Thank you.

Anonymous

Could you explain to me why I am being berated for telling somebody it was hateful to call you an anti-semite? I don’t know you. I am not friends with you. I can’t differentiate you with other posts on here. I live in the now. Don’t think of yesterday’s posts. But when somebody is called a racist and anti-semite I question it because of what happened in the 2008 Dem Primary. I can’t stand name calling, but I don’t whine about. Either way… I have been called many names this evening and it’s been amusing to see adults act like kids in a sand box… SO PLEASE ANSWER, why are you called an anti-semite. If you are… so be it… it’s a free country. I just would not defend it. Thanks.

Anonymous

You got yourself in the middle of an old, and ugly fight. Best to stay out of it. Lots of bad blood there.

Anonymous

Thanks, I got that. I don’t think he could answer now anway. I personally don’t care if people call me names… it says more about them. It’s just that anti semite and racist are so charged I wanted to know what the hell the person in question said to warrant it.

Anonymous

I’m not really interested in your opinion of me. But good show! Now, sod off
Anonymous

was a response to MediaMatters PPAA
Anonymous

I know the feeling kiddo. I decided some time ago that I would just ignore certain people. But they don’t return the favor. I made some remark about Sanctuary cities and not only me but my whole part of the country was the beneficiary of a vicious attack. Someone needs serious anger management counseling.

Even my silly little Yawn, flag , swat was cause for one of his diatribes with my being called a hypocrite. Repeatedly.

I nearly left then. I want dialogue not a fight.Then I decided to hell with that crap, I was here first and here I stay.

I will still for the most part ignore those who’s opinion I find tiresome, repetitive, vulgar and or silly. Other than my own of course.

Anonymous

I miss your Yawn flag swat, Marge.

Anonymous

Thanks EllenD818, it was just my silly way of registering my unhappiness with some comment without saying anything nasty. I was trying to do it with humor. Most got that. Some, the recipients did not.

Anonymous

I miss your Yawn flag swat, Marge.

Anonymous

I know the feeling kiddo. I decided some time ago that I would just ignore certain people. But they don’t return the favor. I made some remark about Sanctuary cities and not only me but my whole part of the country was the beneficiary of a vicious attack. Someone needs serious anger management counseling.

Even my silly little Yawn, flag , swat was cause for one of his diatribes with my being called a hypocrite. Repeatedly.

I nearly left then. I want dialogue not a fight.Then I decided to hell with that crap, I was here first and here I stay.

I will still for the most part ignore those who’s opinion I find tiresome, repetitive, vulgar and or silly. Other than my own of course.
Anonymous

Lets be careful on the labels we place on people. Even I have been called a anti-Semite because of my views on the current Israeli Government. As far as the name calling thing? More than one person does that on this site. matter of fact even calling someone a troll because they have an opposing view can be offensive.

Just childish stupid crap…
Anonymous

Hmmm, I guess I’ve been moderated.
Anonymous

Relying on tax returns
and websites of wealthy U.S. foundations, a Daily Caller investigation
has revealed the sources of more than $28.8 million in funding collected
by the liberal Media Matters for America
since 2003, the year before its formal incorporation. That sum
represents 54 percent of every dollar the organization has raised in its
history, making Media Matters a principally foundation-driven — not
citizen-supported — activist group.

The list of Media Matters’ foundation funders, 120 in all, reads like
a Who’s Who of the American progressive movement, including the
far-left Tides Foundation ($4,384,702), George Soros’ Open Society
Institutes ($1,075,000), the Ford Foundation ($966,466), the Sandler
Foundation ($400,000) — endowed by subprime mortgage lenders Herb and
Marion Sandler, who once bankrolled the embattled ACORN organization —
and the Schumann Fund for Media and Democracy ($600,000), managed by
longtime PBS host Bill Moyers and his son.

They also include the anti-George W. Bush organization MoveOn.org
($50,000), the Barbra Streisand Foundation ($85,000), the kids’
shoes-powered Stride Rite Charitable Foundation ($25,000), the Lear
Family Foundation ($55,000) — endowed by the TV producer and People for
the American Way founder Norman Lear — and the Joyce Foundation
($400,000), whose board of directors included Barack Obama from 1994 to
2002.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/17/left-wing-foundations-lavish-millions-on-media-matters/#ixzz1meVyZi66

Anonymous

And Sheldon Adelson is giving millions more to the Newt Gingrich PAC. To each his own.

Anonymous

thank you Larry.
Anonymous

I’m glad that you are doing that!!
Anonymous

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I ocaissionally comment, and would not miss it. But I am curious whether I am on the abusive smoking Troll list.

http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

Nope.

Anonymous

Way to go Larry! Good move.
Eyes Wide Open

Truth to tell I am glad Ferd_Berfie and Kat are no longer here. I left No Quarter because of their petty attacks on me. I hated to leave but they had embarassed me to the point I did. That was then and this is now and I plan on staying.