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Is Santorum Peaking?

While this chart (from TPM poll tracker) only applies to Michigan Republican voters, it struck me as fairly reflective of the national sentiment towards the various Republican candidates over the last few months…

Do you notice a little downward turn at the top of Santorum’s meteoric rise?  Could it be that Santorum’s moment as the newest bright hope is about to end?  And will we watch him fall as rapidly as he rose?

One reason for Santorum’s change in fortune may be Republican women like Martha McSally.  She is a Republican candidate running for Gabby Giffords’ House seat in Arizona.

McSally was the first female Air Force pilot to fly in combat and as a retired Air Force colonel and combat veteran she takes exception to Santorum’s “concerns about women in frontline combat.” Her response — I’d like to “kick him in the jimmy.” I’d say she takes his concerns personally.  And maybe other Republican women do too?

So what other adventures lie ahead in the Republican primary race? …

Will Romney be able to marshal his forces to make a slow turn to the North or at least rebuild his floor?  Or will Gingrich, empowered by the latest $10 million infusion to his super PAC, gain enough of California’s far-right fringe districts to force Romney to explore the neither regions of 20%?  Will anyone believe Romney won Maine?  Will Ron Paul’s delegate strategy make him the winningest loser in the primary?

And will someone, anyone please let Buddy Roemer into a debate so we can finally start talking about the serious political and economic mess we are in?

Share your thoughts!

  • Anonymous

    The idea of a retired Air Force Colonel kicking Santorum in the jimmy is pretty hilarious.  The problem for Santorum is that he comes off as such a sissy that such an encounter is entirely credible.  Come to think of it, perhaps that should be a selection criteria.  If one can realistically imagine Col McSally kicking a candidate in the jimmy, he doesn’t get one’s vote.  If we would’ve used this criteria in 2008, Obama wouldn’t be President today.

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    My guess is that Santorum’s days are numbered. I think he’s peaked and I do think Romney is going to pull out Michigan & Arizona and that Romney will end up winning the nomination.

    That said; this race is pretty much impossible to predict but if I had to lay money on the line, that’s where I’d place it.

    I think Santorum probably peaked a little too early. If he could have kept his mouth shut… he could have pulled off the upsets in Arizona & Michigan and had a real shot and riding that momentum into Super Tuesday.

    If I’m wrong and the Republicans do end up nominating him then I think Obama will win by double digits. Obviously I think Obama will beat Romney too – but I am far less confident in that match-up. I think it could go either way depending a lot on the economic news in the coming months. 

  • http://ptab-outoforder.blogspot.com/ Ptab01

    I know you Romney fans are desperate for some positive news . . .

    http://factcheck.org/2012/02/romneys-fiscal-conservative-whopper/

    Unfortunately Factcheck.org has no cover to pull over your head.
    Regarding those icky social issues . . . Seems to anyone w/ a functioning gray mass inside their skull . . . The start of the cacophony began in the new Hampshire debate w/ Stephanopolous asking if states have the right to ban contraceptives.

    Since then the HHS mandate was rolled out – Catholics were pissed – Santorum has been stuck on the issue partly b/c of his “social conservative” credentials & the Media directive to keep him on this.

    • http://ptab-outoforder.blogspot.com/ Ptab01

      Even worse now …

      Apparently Romney loses his conservative narrative by booking 5 star hotels for him and the campaign staff as posted on Tawgan Goddards Politicalwire ( thanx Mr. B for report last evening)

      Slamming Santorum as a fictional conservative despite backing from several from non partison org saying Santorum was in fact fiscally conservative over his 16 yrs in DC While spending $5 to$1 on ads and staying in Luxary Hotels

      A complete disconnect

      • Anonymous

        i haven’t had a chance to check this out but while in NH, the campaign had this cheesy photo-op of Mr. & Mrs. Romney doing their own laundry at a hotel laundromat where they were staying.  It didn’t look like a fancy hotel.  i wonder whether those hotels aren’t where they have had campaign fundraising functions.  or where they have had the celebration on the night of the vote, which have to be done in large ballrooms.  it just doesn’t ring true. 
         
        http://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics/2012-election/picture-mitt-romney-doing-his-own-laundry

        • http://ptab-outoforder.blogspot.com/ Ptab01

          And honestly . . . Should it matter at all?
          Not one bit . . . But under the scrutiny of the public eye during an election His campaign needs to have these things buttoned up

          Sent from my iPad

    • Anonymous

      Come on PTab01, I did some research after you posted something similar in another post with links to the fact that Santorum voted for $400+ trillion dollars in programs.  Yes, he came in 77th in voting our $ away among senators but that’s because everyone of them are runaway spending machines.

      Santorum voted for No Child Left Behind; Prescription Drug Program (another unfunded entitlement program); by his own admission, he voted for every earmark that came his way.  There is no doubt that during Santorum’s second term, while Bush was President the republicans, of which he was in the leadership, went nuts voting for unpaid programs. 

      I agree with you that the contraception issue was raised by Stephanopolous and the HHS/Obama administration rule, but Santorum himself raised the “theology” issue while speaking before a christian group in MI; and it was santorum who raised the issue of prenatal diagnostic tests; and it is santorum who just this Saturday said about public education:  “But the idea that the federal government should be running schools, frankly — much less that the state government should be running schools — is anachronistic.” in Cincinnatti on Saturday (remember he voted for No Child Left Behind). And while he was senator he home schooled his children, who lived in VA but because santorum kept a small house in PA, the state of PA paid more than $60,000 per year for the home schooling. 

      This is why few senators with a record become president because as one member of a large body they tend to vote for lots of programs that are boondoggles.  If you do a little bit of research, you will see that Santorum has not been a fiscal conservative.   

      • http://ptab-outoforder.blogspot.com/ Ptab01

        I recognize everything you have stated here as being correct in regards to spending and u and I do agree that the Bush presidency was extraordinarily expensive and wasteful on some matters THEN again in the second term w/ a divided congress the spending was a compromise route to get things done (things like Kennedy’s no child left behind To get backing military funding)

        Still boggles the mind though that santorum has very good ratings form the oversight organizations.

      • http://ptab-outoforder.blogspot.com/ Ptab01

        I see your points and I know that the Bush terms spend waaaayyyy too much – it still didn’t blemish his record w/ CAGW, NTU, and CFG over looking the congress’ spending Now given the choice of believing the Romney campaign or these organizations – I think I have more faith w/ the latter ( they are not locked in a heated contest with the man)
        Regarding the Obama theology non sense I posted the comment in complete context and I will not try to sway your opinion but please do watch it and form your own opinion .
        Regarding prenatal screening – it has happened to my wife and I . . . Our dr. At the time advised for prenatal screening and we both agreed to it. When we asked what information we get from it we were told that in the case of abnormalities we could elect to terminate the Pregnancy. Needless to say… We got another Dr. After that . . . We tried for many years to have my baby girl . . .and almost lost her at birth . . . I do not need a doc who is gonna suggest terminating a pregnancy
        Sent from my iPad

    • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

      If Santorum hits back hard on these charges by citing this information (and he apparently has a lot of money going into Michigan) then maybe he can pull it out after all.

      As an Obama supporter I am rooting for him. 

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think he’s “peaked” just yet. I think it will take a few more “gaffs” before he begins to decline much. I have no doubt that he will provide them.

    The base may love their “social” conservatives but moderate Republicans and Independents do not.

    Perhaps it all depends on who the base wants to defeat more, Obama or Romney. Right now I believe it’s Romney.

    If a social conservative loses to Obama, and they will, the base will accept their Pyrrhic victory and sit self-righteously in their purity as the country goes further to hell under a second Obama term.

    • Anonymous

      Another great toon “Auntie” Marge!  

      • Anonymous

        I thought you’d like it Niece Mine.

  • Alessandro Machi

    Santorum made a great point on face the nation. When the pill between the knees comment came up, Santorum looked at Bob Schieffer and said he would not be held accountable for comments made by his donors. 

    When Schieffer continued to harrass Santorum over the pill comment, Santorum shot back, “Barack Obama spent 20 years listening to anti america sermons and I don’t recall you guys making a big deal about it”.The comment was so swift, hard, and stunningly accurate, it took Schieffer several seconds before Schieffer realized he had just been smacked down to roadkill status.

    • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

      That’s such a silly argument because there *was* a big deal about it! The media played Jeremiah Wright’s clip over and over for weeks on end. I don’t know what reality these people are in that think a big deal wasn’t made about… it’s just nuts! Obama had to “throw him under the bus” … he gave two major speeches about it… the first one he defended Wright and then because the firestorm still hadn’t died down (and Wright made some politically insensitive comments in some interview) Obama had to throw him under the bus… I mean… this went on for weeks!!! I just… I’m just floored at this alternate reality where people act like a big deal wasn’t made about that!

      Especially considering that no big deal at all was made about the weird stuff going on in Sarah Palin’s church (the witch doctor stuff… and Sarah Palin herself was actually in that video!) … and if you have to ask me what I’m talking about – doesn’t that make my point? 

      Everyone knows about Jeremiah Wright so obviously a huge deal was made about it.

  • Anonymous

    this may not be ladylike, but it is how I feel.
    I do not give a damn about religious issues and issues of conscience in this election.
    I have 4 kids who are hurting economically. They and million just like them what the chance to earn a decent living and take care of their families.
    I want frivolous spending stopped, I want the debt brought down. I want a better standard of living for this country then the one we are heading for right now.
    I want a president that has this country’s best interest as his main goal.

    There is no way in hell I would vote for backtrack.
    But if the republicans do not get their ass in gear and figure out just what is important this time , I will not vote for them either. I will vote down ticket only  Stop being suckered by backtracks bills that involved social issues and pay attention to what he does economically

    • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

      The idea that anyone would vote for the Republicans for a growing economy is pretty nuts considering it was Bush that ran this country into the ground and while things could be better now – at least Obama has stopped the bleeding.

      Being for the Republicans for economic reasons today would be like voting for Herbert Hoover in 1932.

  • Anonymous

    I expect that Santorum has reached his peak. I also suspect that many in the GOP hope for the same. It will be curious to see how Gingrich acts in Wednesday’s debate. I think that will be a determining factor as well as the hard hits Saintie boy is going to get from Paul.

    If Saintie Rick brings up the Olympics during the debate expect to see blood on the floor where Saintie is/was standing.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/X53NYEMP5AT4XX7VEKC4GMMD2Y anita

      Right about Paul.  He will hit Santorum with everything he’s got.  So far Paul seems to have something of a gentlemen’s agreement with Romney.

      • Anonymous

        this is what paul said about Santorum on Sunday:

        “Do you–are you uncomfortable–certainly Rick Santorum is the one who has been in the forefront of some of this talk on social issues, but there have been others in the race,” Crowley asked Paul. “Are you uncomfortable with this talk about social issues? Do you consider it a winning area for Republicans in November?”

        “No,” said Paul. “I think it’s a losing position.

        “I mean, I talk about it because I have a precise understanding of how difficult problems are to be solved,” Paul continued. “And they’re not to be at the national level. We’re not supposed to nationalize these problems. The founders were very clear that problems like this, if there needs to be legislation of sorts, the state has the right to write the legislation that they so choose. And that solves a lot of our problems.”

        there’s the conservative position.  so why doesn’t the “true conservative santorum” get it?

        • Anonymous

           A better question: Why doesn’t the GOP get it?

      • Anonymous

        Paul on Santorum and Romney this Sunday:

        Santorum’s “voting record is … from my viewpoint, an atrocious voting record — how
        liberal he’s been in all the things he’s voted for over the many years he was in
        the Senate and in the House,” Paul said.Paul had kinder words for Mitt Romney,
        praising his “acceptable management style,” a qualification that he said
        Santorum and Newt Gingrich did
        not share.

      • Anonymous

         It’s my understanding that Paul and Romney are friends. Their families share that friendship. And Paul respects Romney.

    • Anonymous

      don’t bet on it.  hannity spent the first 1/2 hour of his show talking to santorum and letting him explain all his stupid statements. so, hannitty is still pushing him. i expect greta will have newt on to do his thing. 

       santorum repeated that he has never voted to restrict contraception and those are simply his personal beliefs.  then, pray tell, why does it matter to anyone and why is he talking about contraception and other religious-based issues if they are not relevant to how he will govern.

      • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew J. Weaver

        It is really remarkable the leeway Fox has given to Hannity in particular to promote his flavor of the moment candidates.  Hasn’t helped them much and, speaking for myself, I find Hannity too irritating to watch or listen to so, in my opinion, it is a waste of time.  Actually, it is helpful since if they are being pushed by Hannity, I’m typically not going to like them either.

        • Anonymous

           Murdoch has made no big secret of his disdain for Romney. And I think he tweeted something today implying that he wants Saintie as his nominee. So it’s not just Hannity, it’s the whole frickin network.

        • Anonymous

          I seldom watch Hannity, or any other so-called “news” program. Hannity is so much further right than I that I seldom agree with anything he says.

          I like to watch when Frank Luntz is on and has his “focus” groups. Other than that the bias in media is so obvious, from both sides, that watching television, other than to get election results, is a waste of time.

      • Anonymous

         I kinda liken Saintie’s claims that he wouldn’t legislate against contraception the same as I do O’s claim that he wouldn’t actually have the military detain American citizens on USA soil. If that’s their positions then why are they speaking about it so much. And in O’s case actually requesting the power he never intends to use. Effen liars one and the same.

      • http://ptab-outoforder.blogspot.com/ Ptab01

        Perhaps Santorum keeps having talk about it b/c that the line the MSM keeps pushing questions about ( remember Romney continuously having to answer the Romneycare question? )This is the SAME DEAL – paint the candidate into a corner on an issue or two Further proof MSM is an active leg of the Obama campaign
        If y’all can contain your dislike for everybody not Romney u can see the Media has done this to all of them

        Wak Up Folks it is getting pretty late in the game to be this obtuse

        • Anonymous

          i agree that the media is hyping these issues.

          • http://ptab-outoforder.blogspot.com/ Ptab01

            Well boy that was cathartic glad to finally see eye to eye with some on this blog on SOMETHING.
            Sent from my iPad

  • http://ptab-outoforder.blogspot.com/ Ptab01

     I think u Romney fans are gonna enjoy this little story.

    It appears Romney has picked up an endorsement . . . A true Conservative is placing Robo calls the Gov . – He was a former Republican Senator from a deep blue state . . .
    Rick Santorum.

    http://www.freep.com/article/20120220/COL05/120220057/Poli-Bites-robocall-Santorum-endorsing-Romney-?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

    • Anonymous

      loved it.  thanks.  

    • Anonymous

       It would be a curious question to be raised in Wednesday’s debate. It would be kinda like a John Kerry moment. “I was for Romney before I was against him.”

  • Anonymous
  • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

     Ah, the quaint, sweet concern of an OBOT.  Saint Rick is the Obama teams ultimate electoral fantasy.

    • Anonymous

       Something like “the Messiah vs St.Rick” has a ring to it though.

    • Anonymous

      “Saint Rick is the Obama teams ultimate electoral fantasy. ”

      Actually Saint Rick is a eletoral fantasy for an awful lot of Republicans. Your party is completely nuts. Good luck with that.

  • Anonymous

    From the Cincinnatti Enquirer:

    Regarding the earmarks for the 2002 Olympics:

    Santorum voted in for H.R. 2216 , which appropriated $59,956,000 for security at the Salt Late Olympics. (Roll call vote No. 228 on July 10, 2001: Passed 98-1-1, Santorum voted yea)

    Santorum voted for H.R. 3338, which appropriated $10 million for “emergency expenses” to respond to the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. (Roll call vote No. 380 on Dec. 20, 2001, Passed 94-2-4, Santorum voted yea)

    Santorum voted for H.R. 4425, which appropriated $8 million to the Department of Defense for communications equipment, infrastructure and logistical support. (Roll call vote No. 106 on May, 18, 2000, Passed 96-4, Santorum voted yea).

    • Anonymous

       Awesome info though I doubt it will make much difference in the minds of Saintbots. Hypocrisy knows no bounds and all that.

      An unusual source for your info. Is this from a recent publication? Has the Enquirer actually endorsed anyone?

      • Anonymous

        it was from a link on drudge

      • http://ptab-outoforder.blogspot.com/ Ptab01

         i am officially confused
        HR 2216 security for Utah winter Olympics was wasteful?

        HR 3338 for Emergency expenses incurred from 9-11 was wasteful?

        H.R. 4425, the FY2001 military construction appropriations bill was wasteful?

         Um . . . You and I have a very different idea about things that the Government should and should not be spending on.

        • Anonymous

          I didn’t say they were wasteful.

          The point is that those are the “earmarks” on the Olympics that Santorum was throwing in Mitt’s face.  No they are not wasteful. And yes, they were needed for the post-9/11 Olympics. 

          What is wasteful is the $450 million bridge to nowhere that Santorum voted for. 

          • Anonymous

             Yep. If they were so wasteful then why did Saintie support them? Kinda goes to credibility, just a mite.

  • http://ptab-outoforder.blogspot.com/ Ptab01

    From the AR News clip…

    Doocy went on to ask if McSally would support Santorum if he became the GOP presidential nominee. She said she’d like to have a meeting with him to discuss some things.

    “I don’t think I would mention the jimmy part to him,” Doocy said.

    McSally’s response: dead silence and a smile.

    “Yeah, I guess not,” Doocy said.

    • Anonymous

       I do like that lady

      • http://ptab-outoforder.blogspot.com/ Ptab01

         i think i do as well –

    • Anonymous

       A kick in the Jimmy might be just the kind of contraceptive Saintie needs.

      • http://ptab-outoforder.blogspot.com/ Ptab01

        As I said before . . .id b more impressed if McSally quoted Col Jessup from A Few Good Men – “I’ll rip off your fucking head and piss in your dead skull!”

        That will make the case for women on the battlefield far better than “I’ll kick you in the Jimmy”
        Sent from my iPad

  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew J. Weaver

    First, of course Santorum is peaking–he cannot endure any scrutiny–and peaked too soon to likely win in Michigan (though, as an open ballot, Dems might play politics to engineer a Romney loss).  Second, if Gingrich gets another $10 million from a Vegas gambler he’ll have to begin explain why he’s not a bought person.  Wonder, also, how his once and again potential religious conservative supporters will like this direct connection to gambling.  At the end of the day I think Santorum and Gingrich are simply spoilers for each other’s election aspirations and no long-term risk to Romney.  Forget a brokered convention, it won’t happen.  What will is debate over party platform.

    BTW, and pardon me, but who the h-e-l-l is Buddy Roemer and why insert this has-been nobody into the discussion?  Shall we also discuss Lyndon LaRoche?

    (…and yes, I do know and recall that Roemer was once, a long, long time ago, the governor of Louisiana.)

    • Anonymous

      Buddy Roemer is the only Republican candidate for president who doesn’t have a PAC and he is also the only one consistently talking about political corruption.  Something everyone else is working very hard to ignore.

      • Anonymous

         Has Roemer been in any of the debates?

        • Anonymous

          None.  Unfortunately.  

    • Anonymous

       I hope your right about Santorum peaking, but then I am a Romney supporter.

      This primary has been a lot like what is said about fame
       ”everyone will get their 15 minutes of peak”. This has certainly not been the typical boring Republican primary. Actually it has been a great deal of fun to follow kind of reminded me of when I was a Democrat.

      BTW who is Lyndon LaRoche? Just kidding. 

    • Anonymous

       Not sure if you were aware, but the Kos crowd is openly recruiting Dems to vote for Saintorum in Michigan. And they are fairly organized for a bunch of whacked out liberal nutcases.

      • Anonymous

        Unions.  Romney’s comments against the auto bailout are hurting him in MI.  Autos are their life blood there.  And a backlash is building from the overload of negative ads agaisnt Santorum.  It will be intrigueing to see where

        • Anonymous

          actually there is a poll out that it is not hurting him with republican voters because they opposed the bailout by 3 to 1 or something like that.  if i find it, i’ll link it.

          • Anonymous

            But dems are able to vote in Republican primary.

            • Anonymous

              oh, right.  i forgot.  but santorum also came out against the auto bailout. 

  • Anonymous

    “Is Santorum Peaking?”

    I would say it depends on if Gingrich gets out of the race. There is a good chance Gingrich gets out of the race after Georgia and then Santorum picks up the majority of his support.

    Also, wins in Michigan (he is still ahead), Pennsylvania (his home state) and Ohio (he is ahead) could propel Santorum higher.

    Linda, you are just looking at one state, MI, where Romney has gone all out as he knows he cannot afford to lose that one.

    If you look nationwide Santorum’s surge continues to hold and has continued to gain.

    Nate Silver has a good article on Santorum:

    “Santorum’s Surge Holds Steady So Far”

    “Nevertheless, Mr. Santorum’s bounce has already had considerably more staying power than those of some of his rivals. Newt Gingrich’s surge in the national polls, for instance, peaked just 24 or 48 hours after his victory in South Carolina, whereas Mr. Santorum’s has now persisted for more than a week.

    Indeed, Mr. Santorum may be benefiting from the continued decline in Mr. Gingrich’s numbers. Recent polls have suggested that more of Mr. Gingrich’s supporters were winding up in Mr. Santorum’s column, which may be helping to offset any gains that Mr. Romney is making because of advertising.”

    See the full article here:

    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/17/santorums-surge-holds-steady-so-far/

    • Anonymous

      I think the difference in this surge is due to scheduling, the types of states on the line, and the HHS/Obamacare contraception issue that arose just before the caucuses he won.  Frankly, for all his personal flaws, including the personal hubris which drives his angry rants, Newt is much more knowledgeable and experienced.  But Santorum has lucked out to a great extent.   

      There were 10 days between Newt’s win in SC and FL, a state which is much more diverse and well suited to Romney than Newt, except for limited parts of FL.  Followed 4 days later by NV, which also was better suited for Romney.   If SC had been followed by southern super tuesday states, Newt would have fared better. 

      Santorum has lucked out with the schedule.  He will have had 3 weeks to savor his 3-state sweep.  He won in caucuses, which lend themselves to the type of evangelical fervent support that he has been able to mobilize and in MO which had no delegates (delegates will be selected in caucuses to be held in mid-March). Romney took his foot off the accelerator after FL and NV and hardly campaigned in the caucus states or MO where Santorum barely campaigned in FL and instead focused on the caucus states and MO. 

      MI with a 40% evangelical population is much more friendly to Santorum despite the fact that Romney’s was born and raised there.  I saw some interviews of voters the other day, who had never heard of Gov George Romney (it’s been more than 40 years).  Plus they are fighting both in MI & AZ, followed closely by southern Super Tuesday states, which are likely to be more friendly to Santorum. 

      What I don’t understand is the sharp volatility of the polls, unless the polls are all hogwash.  The steep rise/fall of all the candidates, and not just Romney,  sometimes by 20 points is a bit bizarre.  Are people so fickle?  Certainly on NOQuarter, people are much more stable on their preferences. 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/X53NYEMP5AT4XX7VEKC4GMMD2Y anita

        Santorum also got lucky with the timing of the contraception debate and the catholic church in an uproar.

        • Anonymous

          Lots of excuse for you boy Romney and spin, but how about you just admit that Romney is not all that popular with Republicans? Every other candidate other than Romney has also lead. Was it the timing of the “contraception debate” that put them ahead too.  After 6 years of campaigning and all those millions, Romney has a tough time breaking about 25% support among Republicans.

          • Anonymous

            you keep on posting this garbage and i keep on responding by citing the NV and FL and NH results where he broke 40%; in NV he got 50% of the votes with all 3 of the others running against him.

            • Anonymous

              I am not posting garbage. Not at all. Unless you think the facts are garbage.

              National polls of Republicans puts Romney at about a 25% level.

              Here check the latest poll yourself:

              “Poll: Santorum opens up double-digit national lead over Romney”

              “The survey finds Santorum with support from 36 percent of registered Republicans nationally, topping Romney at 26 percent.”

              http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/211663-poll-santorum-opens-up-double-digit-national-lead-over-romney

              Romney basically bought FL and NV (although NV has a lot of Mormon residents). NH is his resident state, so no suprises there, although many say he should have done much better, given he has been campaining in NH for 6 years. His margin of victory in NH was not that great, particularly given the non-Romney vote was split big time. He may yet lose Maine, as there are vote counting discrepencies that are being considered by the Maine Republican Party in March. Could be another Iowa where the vote in Maine is recounted and the state is given to Paul.

              You guys are going to go in panic mode big time if Romney loses Michigan.

              • Earl Stick

                 You sure are fixated on Michigan.  You don’t know what you’re talking about.  It’s just another state.  So what if Romney lived there as a child?  It’s not his home.  And it’s a union state.  It’s a long road to the nomination, Obotboy.

                • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

                  Nah. You are wrong on that one. If Romney can’t win Michigan it’s going to make him look exceedingly weak. I think it would likely be the beginning of the end.

                  That said; if I had to bet today I’d say he pulls it out.

                  But to say it doesn’t matter or it’s “just another state” is hogwash. 
                  If Romney loses Michigan I would be surprised if Santorum didn’t pass him on InTrad e- it would be huge. 

                • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

                  Nah. You are wrong on that one. If Romney can’t win Michigan it’s going to make him look exceedingly weak. I think it would likely be the beginning of the end.

                  That said; if I had to bet today I’d say he pulls it out.

                  But to say it doesn’t matter or it’s “just another state” is hogwash. 
                  If Romney loses Michigan I would be surprised if Santorum didn’t pass him on InTrad e- it would be huge. 

              • Anonymous

                you never answered my earlier question — did you feel the same way about “buying” elections when Obama outspent hillary and mccain in 2008?

                • Anonymous

                  I don’t think Obama outspent his opponents by 6 to 1. A little proportionality is requried in your comment.

              • Anonymous

                it is garbage when we have actual elections to contrast with polls. 

          • Anonymous
      • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

        Most people aren’t political junkies (even out of the subset that votes in primaries) … they don’t have such strong convictions and are easily swayed from candidate to candidate. But I think the particularly crazy swings of this GOP race are because this is a particularly weak field. Most voters aren’t really excited about any of the candidates and thus they are blowing in the wind back and forth…

        Republicans love to try to compare their mess this year to the Obama/Clinton battle of ’08 – but the difference is that was a battle between two likable candidates and their supporters really liked the candidate that they were supporting – it wasn’t just… “oh this is the only guy left who isn’t Romney” …

    • Anonymous

       I bet that you and the rest of your O-drone allies are having nightly wet dreams at the prospect of a Santorum nomination. Enjoy it while you can.

      • Anonymous

        I could care less who Obama’s opponent is going to be. Irrelevant, as the GOP does not have a winning message whoever represents them.

        However, I would prefer a far-right Republican candidate, someone who reflects this version of the GOP. It would be good to have a clear choice election of two very different views of America. Lets settle this small government and these social issues for once and for all with two very distinct candidates. And if your far-right candidate loses then your GOP party can move back to the center or if you far-right guy wins then we know where America really stands.

        • Earl Stick

           Settle it once and for all?  HAHAHAHAHA

          Since when is anything settled once and for all in the left/right paradigm?  The parties are always swinging back and forth like a pendulum.  If you seriously think one election, Far Right vs Far Left will settle things once and for all, you are totally naive.  Did they really give you those words to copy and paste at Obama troll school?  You keep saying it in thread after thread, so I guess you really believe it.  Are you excited about what the Easter Bunny is going to bring you too?

          HAHAHAHAHAHA

        • puma_for_life

          Santorum is only far-right socially; fiscally he is a big government spender not much different than Obama. The only real choice is Ron Paulo, who has the best chance of beating Obama but the worst chance of getting the GOP nomination.  he appeals to Independents and disillusioned Dems, but the neocons control the GOP and hate him.