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		<title>By: bert</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6551/when-it-comes-to-guantanamo-dc-media-girl-has-it-right/#comment-1052011</link>
		<dc:creator>bert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great post, Larry. I agree totally. You have a very balanced perspective and help me to clarify, and put into words, my vague thoughts and ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great post, Larry. I agree totally. You have a very balanced perspective and help me to clarify, and put into words, my vague thoughts and ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: TheAntiBigot</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6551/when-it-comes-to-guantanamo-dc-media-girl-has-it-right/#comment-1050778</link>
		<dc:creator>TheAntiBigot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you paid by StormFront or the Free Republic? Anyway this is not their site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you paid by StormFront or the Free Republic? Anyway this is not their site.</p>
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		<title>By: TheAntiBigot</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6551/when-it-comes-to-guantanamo-dc-media-girl-has-it-right/#comment-1050771</link>
		<dc:creator>TheAntiBigot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are another example of the &quot;enemy of my enemy&quot; scum this blog pandered tp while facing the General Election. Yesterday you called 70 million Americans scum, every day you get worse.

I guess the reaction to people like you and SOC is a good judgement of how this blog will go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are another example of the &#8220;enemy of my enemy&#8221; scum this blog pandered tp while facing the General Election. Yesterday you called 70 million Americans scum, every day you get worse.</p>
<p>I guess the reaction to people like you and SOC is a good judgement of how this blog will go.</p>
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		<title>By: TheAntiBigot</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6551/when-it-comes-to-guantanamo-dc-media-girl-has-it-right/#comment-1050748</link>
		<dc:creator>TheAntiBigot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey snickers &amp; sfindipuma if he never had your vote, he does not need or want it, especially if for reasons of twisted bigotry you will not recognize the scale of his victory. Nearly 70 million Americans voted for him, if you support American do as you lot demanded under Bush, you should support the Presidency. 

GITMO should be closed and whether he gets your support or not, closing GITMO is the right thing to do. Unless it is made the new home for Cheney, Rumsfield and Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey snickers &amp; sfindipuma if he never had your vote, he does not need or want it, especially if for reasons of twisted bigotry you will not recognize the scale of his victory. Nearly 70 million Americans voted for him, if you support American do as you lot demanded under Bush, you should support the Presidency. </p>
<p>GITMO should be closed and whether he gets your support or not, closing GITMO is the right thing to do. Unless it is made the new home for Cheney, Rumsfield and Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: TheAntiBigot</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6551/when-it-comes-to-guantanamo-dc-media-girl-has-it-right/#comment-1050735</link>
		<dc:creator>TheAntiBigot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Comment by Strawberrybitch &#124; 2008-11-19 23:35:15

Yyyup. If they weren’t terrorists when they went in, dimes to dollars they are now. Along with every member of their immediate family.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not necessarily, there are the tv rights. See the UK Channel 4 Programme on the two released back to the UK!

Nevertheless, Gitmo, Waterboarding, extraordinary rendition are all stains on America, as great as slavery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Comment by Strawberrybitch | 2008-11-19 23:35:15</p>
<p>Yyyup. If they weren’t terrorists when they went in, dimes to dollars they are now. Along with every member of their immediate family.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Not necessarily, there are the tv rights. See the UK Channel 4 Programme on the two released back to the UK!</p>
<p>Nevertheless, Gitmo, Waterboarding, extraordinary rendition are all stains on America, as great as slavery.</p>
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		<title>By: Idiocracy08</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6551/when-it-comes-to-guantanamo-dc-media-girl-has-it-right/#comment-1050643</link>
		<dc:creator>Idiocracy08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe Soldier of Christ&#039;s post was meant to be for only a certain group.
It&#039;s on a public site.  Soldier of Christ knows he/she can be quoted anywhere on this site.

Why is ok for one person to have an opinion, but it&#039;s not ok to disagree with it?  Or to argue back a rebuttal?

SoC started in with the anti-semite stuff.  That cannot be tolerated.

This person is calling themself Soldier of Christ.  If you are going to use Christ&#039;s name, then you may not want to be so rude to people.  State your opinion all you want...but don&#039;t go telling other posters you know NOTHING about that Jesus hates you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe Soldier of Christ&#8217;s post was meant to be for only a certain group.<br />
It&#8217;s on a public site.  Soldier of Christ knows he/she can be quoted anywhere on this site.</p>
<p>Why is ok for one person to have an opinion, but it&#8217;s not ok to disagree with it?  Or to argue back a rebuttal?</p>
<p>SoC started in with the anti-semite stuff.  That cannot be tolerated.</p>
<p>This person is calling themself Soldier of Christ.  If you are going to use Christ&#8217;s name, then you may not want to be so rude to people.  State your opinion all you want&#8230;but don&#8217;t go telling other posters you know NOTHING about that Jesus hates you.</p>
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		<title>By: Idiocracy08</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6551/when-it-comes-to-guantanamo-dc-media-girl-has-it-right/#comment-1050618</link>
		<dc:creator>Idiocracy08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a post that needed to be pointed out.  SoC was going after dcmediagirl &amp; others.  

I could care less what some faceless person whom I consider to be extremely radical says about me on the internet.  Sticks and stones.  If you think &lt;strong&gt;I&#039;m&lt;/strong&gt; being rude, then go back and read some of his/her posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a post that needed to be pointed out.  SoC was going after dcmediagirl &amp; others.  </p>
<p>I could care less what some faceless person whom I consider to be extremely radical says about me on the internet.  Sticks and stones.  If you think <strong>I&#8217;m</strong> being rude, then go back and read some of his/her posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Typewriterstreaming</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6551/when-it-comes-to-guantanamo-dc-media-girl-has-it-right/#comment-1050490</link>
		<dc:creator>Typewriterstreaming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Thanks for pointing that comment out Larry. Only extremists and radicals think that way Soldier of Christ does.&#039;

Thanks for pointing out the commenter so he can be ridiculed the way you felt ridiculed? 

what has happened to this blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Thanks for pointing that comment out Larry. Only extremists and radicals think that way Soldier of Christ does.&#8217;</p>
<p>Thanks for pointing out the commenter so he can be ridiculed the way you felt ridiculed? </p>
<p>what has happened to this blog?</p>
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		<title>By: Typewriterstreaming</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6551/when-it-comes-to-guantanamo-dc-media-girl-has-it-right/#comment-1050341</link>
		<dc:creator>Typewriterstreaming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the second day in a row authors on this blog have chosen to take very public issue with commenter&#039;s. At least today&#039;s author has the courage to specifically name a person, (unlike yesterday&#039;s covert post by DC Media Girl. That post manipulatively used the lack of such specifics to extend to all its&#039; message that you will be called out and shamed if you hold specific views that the author found uncomfortable). So today we find another similiar post meant to annihilate an opinion along with the encouragement of group think. Its the very public lashing the commenter receives that is notable, not the divergent opinion. I have seen SOC post here before and thought their participation on this blog was indicative of the tolerance of consideration given to diverging opinions unique to a handful of web blogs. Once again I am disappointed to see attmepts to ostracize those whose opinion is difficult for some to hold, and by making a public example of those individuals send a covert message of control to all commenter&#039;s. I am saddened to see NQ become yet another arena for high lighting the encouragment of speech suppression, for group think and for using a self made bully pulpit to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the second day in a row authors on this blog have chosen to take very public issue with commenter&#8217;s. At least today&#8217;s author has the courage to specifically name a person, (unlike yesterday&#8217;s covert post by DC Media Girl. That post manipulatively used the lack of such specifics to extend to all its&#8217; message that you will be called out and shamed if you hold specific views that the author found uncomfortable). So today we find another similiar post meant to annihilate an opinion along with the encouragement of group think. Its the very public lashing the commenter receives that is notable, not the divergent opinion. I have seen SOC post here before and thought their participation on this blog was indicative of the tolerance of consideration given to diverging opinions unique to a handful of web blogs. Once again I am disappointed to see attmepts to ostracize those whose opinion is difficult for some to hold, and by making a public example of those individuals send a covert message of control to all commenter&#8217;s. I am saddened to see NQ become yet another arena for high lighting the encouragment of speech suppression, for group think and for using a self made bully pulpit to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: La Compania Volante</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6551/when-it-comes-to-guantanamo-dc-media-girl-has-it-right/#comment-1050307</link>
		<dc:creator>La Compania Volante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found that Soldier for Christ’s rant, other than an offhand, mildly (and perhaps unintentional) anti-Semitic reference and some overheated passion to be no more offensive or ignorant than some of the points made in DC Media Girl’s recent posts.  I didn’t agree with some of it, but I understood where it was coming from.

Let’s just say that I come closest to agreeing—especially on military matters, the war, the detainees, “war crimes” trials for members of the Bush administration—with an actual soldier who posts here, soldier4hillary.  I’m pleased to have found and read her work here, to have viewd her videos, and to know that good people like her are serving this nation.  Perhaps she should come back and comment on this article and some of the others written in this vein.

It’s rare to have a forum in which alternate and opposing views may be expressed, discussed, and even argued through passionately without rancor—especially a forum in which there exists as much tolerance for dissenting views as I have seen in this one.  Unfortunately, it looks to me like that this forum, as such, is about to expire.  I see the death of tolerance here, in this latest series of articles and posts.  I hate to say it, but it’s now apparent that the sense of basic unity I observed here earlier, prior to the election, is disappearing.  Inevitable, I suppose—the posters here represent quite a diverse group, but mostly to left of center politically, and PUMA’s alternate meaning doesn’t lend itself to longevity as an organized group, anyway.  The shared purpose—first in defending Sen. Clinton, then Sen. Palin and Sen. McCain against lies and other attacks, and defeating Obama in the election—is gone.  Without that, people here are reverting into partisan mode, reviving old prejudices and old rancor, and just plain fighting and tossing insults.

I was considering supporting this site with advertising, perhaps submitting an article or two, but … I figure that centrist Constitutionalist independent conservatives like myself will soon be persona non grata here.  Oh, well.  I guess that’s why there’s no centrist third party in America and probably never will be.  Too bad.  Whether it succeeded in national elections or not, competition like that might keep the Democrats and the Republicans honest, or at least afraid to be too blatant about looting the treasury and redacting the Constitution.

Thank you, Mr. Johnson, for providing this site, for all the good work you&#039;ve done with it.  I have appreciated reading it and participating in it in a small way as a poster.

I leave you all with this one last thought:

The media at which you have been so enraged lately, the media that has lied to you, that has defamed you and the people you have supported in politics this year, didn’t change overnight, didn’t change in the past year, or even in the last several years.  This process, this evolution from a supposedly unbiased, ethical, and reliable journalistic tradition has taken place over the past three decades.  The process has accelerated in recent years, yes, but that’s how it is done—the frog-in-cold-water, bring-to-slow-boil treatment.  That media has formed many of your opinions over the span of years that you’ve been subjected to it.  Do you know, any more, what exactly is the truth, and what is propaganda?   

I may drop in here from time to time to see what’s going on, but I probably won’t post.  I do wish you all well—vaya con dios, amigos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found that Soldier for Christ’s rant, other than an offhand, mildly (and perhaps unintentional) anti-Semitic reference and some overheated passion to be no more offensive or ignorant than some of the points made in DC Media Girl’s recent posts.  I didn’t agree with some of it, but I understood where it was coming from.</p>
<p>Let’s just say that I come closest to agreeing—especially on military matters, the war, the detainees, “war crimes” trials for members of the Bush administration—with an actual soldier who posts here, soldier4hillary.  I’m pleased to have found and read her work here, to have viewd her videos, and to know that good people like her are serving this nation.  Perhaps she should come back and comment on this article and some of the others written in this vein.</p>
<p>It’s rare to have a forum in which alternate and opposing views may be expressed, discussed, and even argued through passionately without rancor—especially a forum in which there exists as much tolerance for dissenting views as I have seen in this one.  Unfortunately, it looks to me like that this forum, as such, is about to expire.  I see the death of tolerance here, in this latest series of articles and posts.  I hate to say it, but it’s now apparent that the sense of basic unity I observed here earlier, prior to the election, is disappearing.  Inevitable, I suppose—the posters here represent quite a diverse group, but mostly to left of center politically, and PUMA’s alternate meaning doesn’t lend itself to longevity as an organized group, anyway.  The shared purpose—first in defending Sen. Clinton, then Sen. Palin and Sen. McCain against lies and other attacks, and defeating Obama in the election—is gone.  Without that, people here are reverting into partisan mode, reviving old prejudices and old rancor, and just plain fighting and tossing insults.</p>
<p>I was considering supporting this site with advertising, perhaps submitting an article or two, but … I figure that centrist Constitutionalist independent conservatives like myself will soon be persona non grata here.  Oh, well.  I guess that’s why there’s no centrist third party in America and probably never will be.  Too bad.  Whether it succeeded in national elections or not, competition like that might keep the Democrats and the Republicans honest, or at least afraid to be too blatant about looting the treasury and redacting the Constitution.</p>
<p>Thank you, Mr. Johnson, for providing this site, for all the good work you&#8217;ve done with it.  I have appreciated reading it and participating in it in a small way as a poster.</p>
<p>I leave you all with this one last thought:</p>
<p>The media at which you have been so enraged lately, the media that has lied to you, that has defamed you and the people you have supported in politics this year, didn’t change overnight, didn’t change in the past year, or even in the last several years.  This process, this evolution from a supposedly unbiased, ethical, and reliable journalistic tradition has taken place over the past three decades.  The process has accelerated in recent years, yes, but that’s how it is done—the frog-in-cold-water, bring-to-slow-boil treatment.  That media has formed many of your opinions over the span of years that you’ve been subjected to it.  Do you know, any more, what exactly is the truth, and what is propaganda?   </p>
<p>I may drop in here from time to time to see what’s going on, but I probably won’t post.  I do wish you all well—vaya con dios, amigos.</p>
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		<title>By: AnninCA</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnninCA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen many posters behave in incredibly rude ways.

Beware of throwing stones when living in glass houses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen many posters behave in incredibly rude ways.</p>
<p>Beware of throwing stones when living in glass houses.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen D</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6551/when-it-comes-to-guantanamo-dc-media-girl-has-it-right/#comment-1050278</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luv you Uppity.

It&#039;s very simple - You are what you do.

Whatever we do reflects who we are. If you don&#039;t like your reflection, change what you are doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luv you Uppity.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very simple &#8211; You are what you do.</p>
<p>Whatever we do reflects who we are. If you don&#8217;t like your reflection, change what you are doing.</p>
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		<title>By: typewriterstreaming</title>
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		<dc:creator>typewriterstreaming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just plain ugly to watch this public lashing of SOC. Just plain ugly.</description>
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		<title>By: shadow</title>
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		<dc:creator>shadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess we don&#039;t really know if it would have happened or not.  It&#039;s true the mastermind of 9-11 was someone else but didn&#039;t Bin Laden have all the money connections?

Yea, i remember watching a program on PBS that the U.S. had intelligence about Al-Quaeda and no one would listen to the guy.  Ironically, he died in 9-11, but i thought the intelligence went back to during the Clinton administration.  I&#039;m sure there&#039;s enough blame to go around for all involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess we don&#8217;t really know if it would have happened or not.  It&#8217;s true the mastermind of 9-11 was someone else but didn&#8217;t Bin Laden have all the money connections?</p>
<p>Yea, i remember watching a program on PBS that the U.S. had intelligence about Al-Quaeda and no one would listen to the guy.  Ironically, he died in 9-11, but i thought the intelligence went back to during the Clinton administration.  I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s enough blame to go around for all involved.</p>
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		<title>By: AnninCA</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnninCA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one case where I thought he wanted to go to war to vindicate his dad....

and 9-11 was the excuse.

I usually hate psyche explanations or imposing therapy terms on politicians, but this was a case of Daddy stuff.

Just my 2 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one case where I thought he wanted to go to war to vindicate his dad&#8230;.</p>
<p>and 9-11 was the excuse.</p>
<p>I usually hate psyche explanations or imposing therapy terms on politicians, but this was a case of Daddy stuff.</p>
<p>Just my 2 cents.</p>
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