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The “war” continues (Video Update) & new Rosen scandal (+ Open Thread)

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WaPo used the only unflattering photo of Ann Romney I've seen.

The “war on women” is not over. Obama’s large base argues Hilary Rosen should NOT apologize, appearing on CNN, MSNBC, Current, and in print via The Nation’s Katrina vanden Heuvel and Kathleen Parker‘s astonishing WaPo column:

[T]his faux battle is silly and utterly off-point … a peashooter contest in the Twitter Lounge. Yet … everyone from the president of the United States to the Catholic League to the GOP and the Democratic National Committee has felt compelled to inveigh.

President Obama, reminding folks that he was raised by a single mom, noted that women who stay home with children are doing hard work and that anyone who argues otherwise should “rethink their statement.” Rosen quickly rethunk and apologized for saying something true, …

vanden Heuvel agrees but adds the magazine’s “The Real Hilary Rosen Scandal,” that asks “about the nature of Rosen’s consulting firm, SKDKnickerbocker, an unregistered lobbying firm … one of the biggest names in the influence business by using its ties to President Obama and leaders in Congress.” Enter Anita Dunn.

Per a senior Dem: “Serious Dem operatives are aghast at Hilary Rosen’s misguided attack on Ann Romney’s work history. She and others at PR firm SKD Knickerbocker have represented many clients that have raised hackles with senior White House staff. It’s an open secret in the Dem consultant community that SKD has been signing up clients based on ‘perceived White House access’ tied to prior relationships and employment.”

As we’ve reported, SKDKnickerbocker is led by a team of former Democratic operatives and key White House figures. But instead of promoting a progressive agenda, or even an Obama agenda, these consultants score huge contracts by helping corporate interests lobby for policies that are not in line with the public interest. Many SKDKnickerbocker employees, including Anita Dunn, a former White House communications director, are also frequent White House visitors.

We’ve compiled a partial list of SKDKnickerbocker’s clients. Since the firm refuses to register as an ordinary lobbying firm, we don’t know their full roster of clients:

— SKDKnickerbocker was hired by Kaplan Education to block Obama’s reforms on for-profit college companies, an industry plagued by by low quality education, false promises to students, and fraudulent business practices.

— SKDKnickerbocker was hired to push for billions in tax breaks for already profitable corporations. As Bloomberg reported, SKDKnickerbocker manages a lobbying campaign called “Win America,” an effort by companies like Google and Pfizer to receive hundreds of billions in tax breaks on profits made overseas.

[I left off the rest of the list. Go to "The Real Hilary Rosen Scandal" at The Nation magazine to read it all.]

Real life intervenes! I will add more soon.

UPDATE: Among the videos I watched as I was writing this post is this from The Young Turks, who are very popular in the left blogosphere. Even if you haven’t heard of them, trust me that they are big in the social media world of liberals.

Bill Ayers is probably a hero to The Young Turks and their ilk. Rashid Khalidi too. And I feel safe in saying that the Turks and their friends do NOT approve of Obama’s presidency and wonder whatever happened to that Ayers protege.

TYT lost their show at MSNBC and ended up where its rejects go: Current TV. Host Cenk Uygur gets rather agitated defending Rosen:

Wolf Blitzer Scolds Hilary Rosen
Over Ann Romney On CNN

Here’s more: “CNN should apologize for Wolf Blitzer’ bullying Hilary Rosen into (another) apology to Ann Romney.” Seriously.

The comments are something:

Dwinna: For some reason, I can’t even get this video to come up! I hope that’s because it is too busy! If not, I sure hope Current gets it fixed because this needs spread around like a huge virus! We should have a petition demanding that Wolf Blitzer be fired! Hillary should have stood up, slapped his ugly mug and left!!!!
………………
Peter: Wolf Blitzer, look into the camera and say “I am a douche”
………………
Connie: CNN should apologize for Wolf Blitzer, but alas they are co-conspirators in making everything into anti-Obama. They spin one thing, while actually doing something else. I no longer watch CNN for a reason. They are political hacks, with purpose.
………………
Check out more.

And this proves that Current TV has a few viewers! At least 6 or 7. Sadly, I don’t get the channel but many of you have told me that I’m not missing anything.

– END UPDATE –

What’s going on with all of you this weekend?

  • ophelia12

    Funny stuff Bronwyn…

    The GOP policy and legislative war on women is real.

    Your faux outrage about something a CNN commentator said is not real.

    Hillary Rosen was 100% correct, as Ann Romney has no clue what average American women are feeling in this economy, as she and her husband claim.

    Keep highlighting this faux outrage. You are not fooling anyone. You are only emphasizing what out of touch 1%ers the Romney’s are.

    Romney himself said in January that Mothers with children should also work in a job outside of the home in order to give themselves dignity. What does that mean? Is Romney saying that his wife has no dignity if she is a stay at home mother? See:

    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/04/as-governor-romney-pushed-mothers-to-get-jobs-to-have-the-dignity-of-work.php

    • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

      Ophelia12

      You’re late.  No one cares what an Obama shill has to say anymore.

      • ophelia12

        Apparently you do!

        • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

          nope!  Wrong again!  But thanks for the attempt at thinking.

  • morris1030

    It shouldn’t come s a surprise that Obama’s treatment of women in  and out of the White House  doesn’t offfer women  the equality
    and progress he BS’s about.

    This Hilary Rosen stuff isn’t anywhere near as bad as Pelosi and Obama ignoring the draconion law enacted by Democrats Rep. Stupak and Sen. Nelson that place an additional burden on women seeking abortion.  Now women have to be screened and scanned, etc. prior to abortion which imposes hardships on women by putting an extra step in the way when seeking abortions.

    This piece of garbage was imposed and enacted by Democrats and Republicans against women’s already settled law [Hyde, RoevWade]  without a word of objection in the second half of Obama the Terrible.  Using women seems to be all our ruling parties is any good at as women have been compromised again to suit the politics of a bunch of men in suits.

    Both parties have waged war on women’s reproductive rights, rights for equal pay and the right to privacy, ad infinitum.  Obama is a total faker as is his  administration regarding their promises,  and isn’t different from the GOP’s position on equal rights for women.

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    “I’m willing to spend more giving day care to allow those parents to go back to work. It’ll cost the state more providing that daycare, but I want the individuals to have the dignity of work.’” — Mitt Romney
    Mitt Romney saying that being a mother is neither work nor dignified. 

    • ophelia12

      Always the hypocracy with the Romneys… no one is being fooled except those who frequent this site.

      Keep making an issue about these comments by a CNN commentator and they are just opening up a further can of worms about how out of touch the Romneys really are. It will backfire like everything else the GOP has made an issue of… 

      Recent polls show the people believe Obama is more in touch with the economic realities faced by women than Romney is and by a wide margin.

  • Popsmoke

    I am reading the posts about the so-called welfare or as I know it TANF program. Most of the commentators here are clueless and ignorant to the details of this program. Matter of fact I dare any of you to even attempt to go through it. Besides being fucked up and a regulatory nightmare its a very demanding program. Just to fill out the required job search documents is enough to drive one crazy.

    I am very supportive of getting folk off of government assistance and as fast as one can. But the way TANF is managed its a waste of taxpayers money.

    • Hokma

      There is a family we know who last year lost everything and had to go on temporary assistance. They thought when they signed up it would come quickly.

      It took over two (2) months before they were approved and even then there were countless mistakes which prevented them from getting medical aid immediately.

      They could never get anyone on the telephone or be able to leave messages.

      Fortunately we and others were helping them anyway to get through this.

      I knew that anything the government did was never good but this was incomprehensible.

      Imagine if this same crap bureaucracy that was not answerable to anyone was in charge of all our healthcare!

      • Popsmoke

         ”Imagine if this same crap bureaucracy that was not answerable to anyone was in charge of all our healthcare!”

        Exactly! Just look at the nightmare in MA and that program is small potatoes compared to what the national program will be…..

  • jrterrier
  • jrterrier

    this says it all

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    Seriously consider how hilarious this is: You guys have been attacking President Obama over someone else saying that being a mother isn’t “work” … and now there’s this: 
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/15/romney-to-welfare-mothers-you-need-to-go-to-work/

    Mitt Romney himself said the same thing! 

    What’s the excuse? Is it only “work” to be a mother if you’re a millionaire? Come on now… you know that doesn’t make any sense. Admit to yourselves how ridiculous you are. 

    • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

      You had to post it twice?   LOL! 

      Thanks for the pathetic attempt to assuage the left’s guilt over blowing a hole in their last major voting block.  We’re not buying it.  

    • emaleroland

      I know you think you’re clever but you’re alone in your assumption.  Romney is talking about welfare.  Get off welfare and get back to work.  It helps your self-esteem.  Rosen(Nobama hack) says ANY woman at home doesn’t understand economics.  It’s hard to be married, have children and the woman work at home and be primary for the kids while husband brings home the bacon and the children suffer when both parents work OUTSIDE the home.  Don’t ever think staying at home, taking care of kids, is not work.  It’s beneficial for the kids but very stressful on the parent doing it.  They are a rare breed and you’re comparing that to Romney’s comments about women on welfare, who are mostly unwed, single mothers, living off others.  Ridiculous.

      • Popsmoke

        First of all there is no such thing as welfare anymore. That part of family services is now called TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families). Its the most screwed up system I have ever worked with. Its confusing and demanding to a point oif being absolutely stupid and does more to hurt than to help. Many case managers read more into the regulations than anyone can realize. Now I agree we need to get people off of government assistance as much as we can and as fast as we can. But this is the most screwed up system I have encountered and I do a lot of appeal work for those POOR MOTHERS and FATHERS and FAMILIES  who have lost their jobs and require financial help.

        Its great to be a critic especially when one has no common frame of reference with the situation and listen to bullshit as facts. Or as in Ann Romney’s case does not have to worry about money.

        When the IRS, Social Security and Family Services (TANF)  view parenting as a job then the Romney’s or anyone else has then something really to say….

        Otherwise this crap is nothing more than political grandstanding at its finest and its helps NO ONE!

  • http://twitter.com/shekissesfrogs Iguana Keeper

    “Bill Ayers is probably a hero to The Young Turks and their ilk.” NOT And Francis Pivens is mentioned downstream. Why not bring up the Tide’s foundation and George Soros? Did you use a chalk board to outline the story before writing it?

    • Hokma

      Saul Alinsky was read and studied  by Barack Obama. Considering how he is acting, that would make Alinsky very relevant.

      As far as what kind of liebral you are, who seemed to be confised. You clearly are not a classical liberal (believe in laizzez faire which Galbraith does not believe in) and a more social liberalism takes you into the realm of Ayers. So who are you?

      • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

        Certainly, a smug one that doesn’t know shyt about what it is supporting.

        The “dead”  breitbart reference shows a petty useful idiot brain.

  • Retired_from_SPOnaj

    Every once in awhile, I tune in the Current TV for a look a the hard Left.  The Keith Olbermann debacle is a great example of the professionalism of Current TV.  If the elite political cadres of the Left ran their own news, instead of being able to rely on the networks fir unabashed support, no one would even know who Barack Obama is. 

    • http://twitter.com/shekissesfrogs Iguana Keeper

      Olbermann is not hard left. He’s a liberal capitalist with progressive leanings. He’s also arrogant, and recently threw Cenk Uygur under the bus. 
      Current TV is owned by Al Gore, Third-Way liberal and fake environmentalist. 
      He is derided by the “hard left.”  New Democrats, the Third Way- a think tank of Center for American Progress are what is wrong with our politics. 
      They are trojan horses for international bankers and elites. They’ll return us to feudalism so brutal, we’ll beg them to give us friendly fascism. 

  • Retired_from_SPOnaj

    Marvin Marks wrote:  “I’ve always had a very low opinion of the average intelligence of my fellow men. Knuckle dragging Nascar watching morons.”

    Thank you.  I’ve never seen a clearer statement of how Obama and his supporters feel about their fellow citizens.

    • HoosierinDixie

      Yes that statement is as clear as the one about all those bitter people who cling to their guns and religion.  

      • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

        …not to mention pooping and pissing in their own meeting places.  See gatewaypundit.com

  • EllenD818

    Well, The Wall Street Journal gave me the only laugh this weekend with their unintentionally funny headline “Winning the War Against Women”.
    That one should go straight to Jay Leno.

  • Flop_Flipper

    A few thoughts on this morning’s talk shows.

    On ABC they showed a clip from an Obama interview. When he said the words “to be as transparent as possible” he diverted his gaze, looking down and to the left.

    Vanden Heuvel said that stay at home moms played an “important role” then froze up trying to remember what her next talking point was. Suddenly she said that one of the most important issues to women is getting sick days to take care of their children.

    On Fox I almost laughed my ass off at Axelrod. The dude seemed to be visibly regurgitating his talking points. Not snarking here.

    Then when asked about what this election would be about, he said that it would be a choice of helping the middle class or traveling down the same road we are now where the wealthy benefit. I suppose it never occurred to him that the path we are on now is being stewarded by Obama. I about busted a gut.

    • Hokma

      “On Fox I almost laughed my ass off at Axelrod. The dude seemed to be visibly regurgitating his talking points. Not snarking here.”

      It seemed as if Wallace was laughing at him. He had the appearance of a desperate person who is watching his candidate’s future slip away.

      He even tried calling the recession that preceded GW Bush, “Bush’s Recession.”

      He tried to question the validity of Fox News Poll.

      And he was clearly agitated when he did not get the usual soft ball questions.

      • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

        Priceless.  Please GOP! USE  Axis-rod’s own words to your advantage!

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    Even sweeter: 
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/15/romney-to-welfare-mothers-you-need-to-go-to-work/

    So it’s only “work” when a multi-millionaire is a mother? When poor women are mothers; they need to “get to work” as Mitt Romney himself said.

    I see.

    Ha! This faux outrage isn’t going to end up nicely for your side. The preposterous of it is too obvious. 

    • Anthony_1

      Give it a rest already

      • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

        Can’t stand having your obvious hypocrisy thrown in your face?

        It’s obvious to anyone with even moderate intelligence that this Hilary Rosen thing is absolutely preposterous. Both Mitt & Ann Romney are on record saying essentially the same thing she did. So why on earth are we supposed to believe that this is some kind of big deal? It’s absurd. I mean… seriously absolutely absurd.

        • Hokma

          Preposteros?

          That’s why every major Demcrat connected to the Obaminaton immediately sent out messages condeming Rosen including Barack himself.

          What she did is defame mothers. Period.

        • Anthony_1

          You’re still not getting it, are you?

          Ann Romney said nothing about going to work every day.  Hilary Rosen did.

          What Mitt Romney said (that put Rosen’s granny-panties in a bunch, not to mention your own) was:

          “”I’ve had the fun of being out with my wife for the last several days on the campaign trail and she points out that as she talks to women they tell her that their No. 1 concern is the economy”

          See? Not a word about going to work.  Those words came out of Hilary Rosen’s mouth. And yours.  And every other slime sucking Obot who continues to try and change the narrative.

          Rosen got scared when that began to resonate and Obama started losing support among women, so she did what I presume to be Obama’s bidding by attacking Ann Romney to change the narrative.

          Too bad it blew up in their faces.  And you can spout all the repetitive bullshit you were told to about this, but it doesn’t change the facts.

          Thats why I said “Give it a rest”.  Now, give it a fucking rest already.  

          Nobody is buying it.  Not here, not anywhere.

          • HoosierinDixie

            I don’t know about that Anthony. I can’t speak for the rest of the good women here but nothing makes me want to rip off my granny panties and run to the Obama camp more than to hear my “outrage is faux” and I’m just “silly” or imagining things. Yes sir I think he is on to a real winning campaign strategy.

          • Anthony_1

            Hoosier, you have shown me the error of my tacky, tacky ways, and I shall immediately remove my own tightie-whities in solidarity.

            Let’s keep him on that winning streak, say I!!

    • HARP2

       Marvin……You are living proof that the Democrats are waging a war on intelligence.

    • HARP2

       Obama adviser David Axelrod makes case for Mitt Romney for President

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xFUYhN3ikxI

      • Flop_Flipper

        Yep, that’s what I saw this morning.

        • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

          He might as well have said, “Vote for Romney!”

          Why does he look so much like that guy with the initials AH – that no one is ever supposed to mention?

          • Anthony_1

            see my comment above with the phrase “Macht schnell, Bitches!” cleverly hidden within

            • Anthony_1

              Disqus duplicated this comment from way downstream and put it here as well.  Ignore it.  It was a response to someone else’s comment

          • Flop_Flipper

            I was going to make the comment yesterday after watching his interview but thought better of it since it would only rile up the Obots. But shorten his mustache and it’s like they were separated at birth.

      • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

        We still have the Bush tax cuts for the rich. We haven’t been able to move out of this trickle down mentality yet… that’s the reason our economy isn’t recovering more quickly. That was his point… quite obvious to anyone with basic comprehension skills.

        • Hokma

          “We still have the Bush tax cuts for the rich”

          The truth is that those tax cuts were not just for wealthy people. They were also for middle income people.

          “We haven’t been able to move out of this trickle down mentality”

          What you mean is that we have been able to get away from free market capitalism. Trickle down? When someone has enough money and gives you a job that is called trickle down. Ever see someone get a job from someone who doesn’t have the money (other than Obama’s government)?

          “that’s the reason our economy isn’t recovering more quickly”

          No, the reason our economy is not recovering is because of Obama’s excessive intrusion on the free market economy and uncertainty.

    • ObamaDubya2ElectricBoogaloo
    • Flop_Flipper

      You really are quite stupid. He was referring to people on welfare. You know, the one’s living on the government’s dime. In many cases these people are perpetual, even generational mooches that only need to go to their mailbox once a month for a paycheck. Romney wants to break this cycle so that they can be rewarded with the dignity of work.

      • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

        Yes! This really is your response: It’s only “work” when a millionaire is a mother… but when poor women are mothers… well they are just a bunch of lazy slobs! 

        HA! You are so ridiculous it hurts.

        • Flop_Flipper

          For your sake I hope you are a masochist.

  • HARP2

    Romney holds a 10 point lead amongst men. Looks like Obama has a problem with male voters.

    • Anthony_1

      He’s got a problem with men.  Period. On many levels.

      We can all tell when a person of our own gender is full of shit a lot sooner than someone of the opposite gender can.  Men all come from the same place (broadly), and the same goes for women.

      Now that Little Ricky’s out of the way, I think Romney will get a lot more support from women. 
      A lot of the gap has to do with the perception that Sanctimonium spoke for the entire GOP field rather than the 30% (more/less) that are as nuts as he is.

      Without the burden of fighting his own party in a primary contest, you can expect to see a more defined Romney emerge.  

      As Governor of Massachusetts, he had to govern in a way that reflected the values of the residents of that state.  He did that, and I fully expect him to do that when he’s POTUS.

      • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

        “We can all tell when a person of our own gender is full of shit a lot sooner than someone of the opposite gender can” … sexist much?

        I personally believe the reason Republicans do better with men is because most men are morons. Thankfully women make up the difference!

        • Anthony_1

          You’re a riot, Marvie.

          Are you such an Obama suck-up that you betray your own gender?

          Adapting to your chosen lexicon: “You are a silly silly man, full of faux outrage for the most preposterous reasons.”

          That along your obvious self-loathing will do your crazy ass in someday.

          • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

            Marks=Marx?

            Word play?

          • Anthony_1

            Sure – I’ll play!

            I was thinking that Marvie sounds an awful lot like that neanderthal slag-heap Martin Bashir.

            Would that make it “Martin Marx”?

          • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

            Ha! 

            No I’ve always had a very low opinion of the average intelligence of my fellow men. Knuckle dragging Nascar watching morons. 

        • Flop_Flipper

          is because most men are morons.

          I can respect you for opening yourself to self-analysis. You need to do a little work on projection though. Only Obots are all the same.

  • no_longer_a_democrat

    This attack by Rosen was directed from the top, I have no doubt about it.
    The attack missile was set up and everything, it just came out wrong. And the backfiring will damage the dems more and more.

    The left has its marching orders….. ATTACK ANN ROMNEY, attack this mom, a MS patient and a breast cancer survivor. This was not about richness, if money automatically led to good parents, then heck, Hollywood would be teeming with children who never do drugs, etc. This attack was planned, it just massively backfired.

    DEAR DNC and the demonRats, PLEASE continue to attack Mrs. Romney, please do, you have done more to unite the repubs, and more to get independents like me to get behind Mitt Romney.

    Maybe leftie Bill Maher will call Mrs.Romney a “c*nt”, maybe Randi Rhoades can call her a “white whore”…. oh its coming, we all saw what the dems did to Hillary and then to Palin in 2008.

    http://nation.foxnews.com/bill-maher/2012/04/14/pig-maher-attacks-ann-romney

    Bill Maher: “Ann Romney has never gotten her ass out of the house to work.”
    I guess this vile lefty creature has his marching orders from Obama, attack Ann, maybe they’ll attack Ann for not understanding the pain and suffering of being a MS patient and a cancer survivor because she’s rich.

    Keep digging deeper DNC, demonRats, ABC, NBC, SeeBS, CNN, NYT… keep digging.

    • Anthony_1

      “This attack by Rosen was directed from the top, I have no doubt about it.”

      Neither do I.

      I think the problem began when Ann Romney started getting some media attention.  She was received warmly by almost everyone, and did a lot to dispel the undertones of the “inhuman Mitt” meme that the Chicago Re-election team began circulating.  

      I’m sure that Axelwhore shit his pants thinking “Uh-oh….  Now we’ve got a problem!  Someone is ‘humanizing’ Mitt!”  The solution?  “Destroy Ann Romney NOW!! Macht schnell, bitches!!”  I can just see him pounding his fist on his desk.

      Well, it kinda backfired, didn’t it?

      Yes, keep digging.  This is getting good!  Almost like retribution for the Hillary and Sarah bashing of 08.  I’m buying lots of popcorn.

    • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

      How can you say that with a straight face when Ann Romney herself said she never worked? (1994 interview)

      How can you say that when Mitt Romney said welfare mothers should “get to work”?

      See… you can’t have have faux outrage over the word “work” if you aren’t going to apply it to their own words as well. 

      Preposterous nonsense! Look at yourselves. Seriously look at the nonsense that you have been talking. You should be ashamed.

      • Flop_Flipper

        Why don’t you just change your name to Preposterous nonsense! ? It would certainly suffice for anything else you may have to say.

  • PITA1

    Everyone needs the women’s vote to get elected. It’s a fact no one can ignore since we are the true majority in this nation. 
    Mitt Romney using his wife, another 1%er, as a benchmark for women and economics is laughable. He is outrageously out of touch with real life and main stream America that I am shocked at the amount of support he generates.
    That being said, the GOP spin artists who turned Hilary Rosen’s criticism into an attack on women and motherhood in general were just doing their job. We need to wonder about the agenda of the news media who demanded more attention and put more spin on this non issue.
    This pandering to the women’s vote by appealing to “traditional values” over reality is comic.

    Mitt Romen’s wife has one job, wife and mother. She does not struggle with a budget like most other stay at home mothers. She does not have to run herself ragged having a job outside the  home and antoher within it as do those trying to maintain a middle class lifestyle.  She is a member of the upper class and can not relate to middle class Americans of any gender. It is the truth, Done.

    • Hokma

      “Any woman who stands up for anything is subject to the most vile verbal attacks on her character . . . . It does not matter if the man be a liberal, moderate or conservative, it is open season on any woman whos ideas don’t match up with theirs. I continue to be outraged that women face the prospect of public pillory every time they open their mouths. Witch hunting is alive and well in the USA. Our nation would do well to list the discriminatory hate words used to discriminate against women and then persue pushing back on those who use them like we do the “N” word.”
       
      Those are your words jackass. Talk about hypocrisy you reek of it.  
       
      Besides you dealing from the bottom of the deck, your narrative about Romney is a lie. Mitt Romney chose not to follow in his father’s footsteps. Instead he chose to venture out on his own. He made his own career and he made his own money.
       
      When they started out, Mitt and Ann were not living a lavish lifestyle and, no, she was not part of the 1%. To invent a story that intentionally leaves out their entire life and assume the way he lives now was the way they lived their entire lives together is deplorable.
       
      That uninformed elitist jerk Hilary Rosen – who has her own past issues with her mouth – has no idea was average women want or do or desire. She certainly has no clue to their values.
       
      In the real world, people should be best remembered for their contributions to society – the most important among them is the children they raise and leave behind. For you and Hillary to denigrate that shows your lack of character as well as how utterly out of touch you people are of Americans.

      • PITA1

        Really,Hokma? Looks like you swallowed the party line well enough. Ann Romney has not been called names other than calling out that economically she is not a typical American. She has not been treated with disrespect or been denegrated using sexually loaded insults.
        Take a course in zoology, I am a woman not a jackass. You sure fit the mold.

        • HARP2

           Very amusing to watch all the libs trying to say this does not matter when in fact this will bring the jackass party down and you know it.

        • Hokma

          Your demeaning attitude is apparent in your prior remarks and with this. I don’t drink anyone’s kool-aid. I read.

          You, on the other hand, are typical of the left wingers who parade around like everyone is like them. It didn’t work in 1968 and it didnt work in 1980 and it will not work now.

          I don’t need a lesson in zoology because you are a woman and a jackass as well as a hypocrit. Deal with it.

          • PITA1

             I can say this with comfort, anyone would be hard pressed to be more conservative than yourself. Being a moderate myself I naturally  appear to be  liberal by comparison.
            I still believe that you had some confusion in your schooling. Mythology is not zoology.

            I will not be voting for either the Salt or the Pepper candidate that we will have these parties present to us.
            This site  has certainly changed its focus.

          • Anthony_1

            “This site  has certainly changed its focus.”

        • Anthony_1

          “I am a woman not a jackass.”

          Nah…..  You’re a jackass.  

          How about a female jackass?  
          Then, you can be both.  

          Feel better?

        • beachnan

           PITA1 you are joking?  Insinuating that Ann Romney doesn’t have the right to an opinion or a comment about what women were telling her on the campaign trail is DISRESPECTFUL!   Now why don’t you take your Elite Liberal A$$ and go somewhere else.

          • PITA1

            I did not insinuate anyting about Ann Romney’s rights. You did. Mitt would do well to say that he will put qualified economic advisors in his cabinet rather than pander to women so shamelessly.
            He looks desparate for votes.

          • Anthony_1

            PITA, he didn’t say that Ann was going to occupy a cabinet position when he wins in November.  

            He said “From what Ann tells me, the women she speaks to are more concerned about the economy than anything else”

            Get it now?

    • Anthony_1

      I’m not even going to respond to your hysterical and senseless  drivel until you start using spellcheck. (somehow, I think even if you spelled peoples names correctly, you’d still be out of your mind).

      Your 1% v 99% bullshit isn’t being bought by anyone, btw.  Just another pile of wasted money and energy by OFA.  Go post this on that big orange toilet bowl that probably sent you here

      • Flop_Flipper

        One thing is for certain, it is 100% bullshit.

      • beachnan

         It’s the strawman again.  The Dens want to insinuate that she is his economic advisor.   She never said that, Mitt never said that.  The Dems said that.  She was just telling him what she heard.  Honestly, these people are psycho.

    • Flop_Flipper

       

      She is a member of the upper class and can not relate to middle class Americans of any gender.

      And just what class do Nancy Pelosi and Hilary Rosen belong to? According to your logic they can not relate to middle class Americans of any gender.

      • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

        A fine example of class warfare, everyone.

        Thank you PITA -ful.  It’s nice when trolls reveal themselves immediately.  It saves alot of reading time.

        • PITA1

          How about using a hole for your icon?

          • Anthony_1

            Would that excite you?

          • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

            Anthony – you are good!  Guest just wants to be banned, among other things…

        • PITA1

          To answer Anthony 1 who is having eyesight issues today, your icon looks like a hole, or is it an egg?

          • Anthony_1

            Sorry – No eyesight issues.  I can see right through you

          • Guest

            What a great website, Anthony 1 can respond/insult without my having the ability to respond directly. To answer Anthony 1 who is having eyesight issues today, your icon looks like a hole, or is it an egg? Anthony_1Sorry – No eyesight issues. I can see right through you PITA_1 says, Must be mental because you do not have super powers, sorry!

          • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

            Thank -you!  It was assigned by Discus.  
            As opposed to your poo flinging monkey one, it screams class and Ostara – new beginnings !

    • HELENK2

      Doesn’t PITA stand for Pain In The Ass?? I have read that somewhere. So does that mean you are pain in the ass 1?

      • PITA1

        Yep! That is what my ex used to call me and when I found out, I told him to leave. By the way, he is a republican too.

        • beachnan

           Your loss, his gain.

    • Flop_Flipper

      Mitt Romen’s wife has one job, wife and mother.

      I see that you can neither spell or count.

  • Hokma

    The real problem with people like Rosen and O’Neil are that they typify the insulated and completely out-of-touch D.C. insiders who know that world around them is completely dependent on what they think and do.
     
    They are very much like the entertainment elitists who truly believe that the world around them hinge on every word and every tweet they say or make.
     
    In the case of Hollyweird we can just choose to ignore them. In the case of government influence peddlers like Rosen and O’Neil their reality can become out reality.
     
    I think we all know what NOW stands for and it is not the rights of ALL women – just women who agree with the perverted viewed of people like O’Neil. And we all know what Rosen and far leftists believe about the how a woman should live.

    -  -   -  -  -  -  -  -   -  -  -  –
     
    I saw this morning an article about a “joke” by comedian Sarah Silverman in support of a woman’s righ to choose. She tweeted before and after an abortion:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2129490/Got-quickie-aborsh-Comedienne-Sarah-Silverman-supports-pro-choice-debate-tweeting-abortion-photos.html

    Abortions are not a joke. I am sure that Silverman never saw what happens when a fetus is aborted – she never saw an actual fetus that looks like a nearly fully formed child have a probe puncture their brain and watch the fluid drain out. A woman’s right to choose. What women like Silverman and O’Neil and Rosen (a lesbian mother to adopted children) do not understand is that a majority of Americans do not favor abortion and see it only as a last resort to save the health of a mother – not as a quickie fix to a night of free sex.

    • no_longer_a_democrat

      I agree, I’m pro-choice, but not pro-abortion, and in my mind there is a difference. Abortion has to be keep legal for those occasions when the mom’s health is in danger or something is wrong with the fetus and the mom has to make that hard decision to abort the fetus, and this is usually seen in the 1st trimester.

       But the way planned parenthood etc do it now is they are promoting abortion, they treat pregnancy like a disease, I saw a t-shirt worn by gloria steinem saying “I had abortion”, DISGUSTING.

      This is not what the women’s reproductive rights movement was about. That choice has to be made legally available to women, but its not some willy nilly decision.  This is not something to be profitted from, it is not an industry.

      • Hokma

        Absolutely agree with how you see this issue.

        • Flop_Flipper

           Me too.

  • Flop_Flipper

    One thing that the Young Turd said was true. This is repulsive.

  • Flop_Flipper

    This is how totally out of touch Mitt is concerning women in the home and workplace. Yeah, he’s like so totally 1950s. Right.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=p79jQh-7Blc

  • KenoshaMarge

    What often seems, at least to me, to get lost in all the talk about what Hilary Rosen said is what Anderson Cooper actually asked:

    Cooper pointed out that in the current economy, “women are seeing jobs come back much more slowly than men are,” and he asked Rosen, essentially, whether there was anything wrong with the Romney campaign’s highlighting that fact and “reaching out to women on an issue that they care about, on the economy.”

     
    Evidently Rosen believes that Ann Romney had no right to reach out to women on an issue they care about. Then she took a shot at Ann Romney without ever actually answering the question.
     
    How could she deny that Ann Romney, and the Romney campaign were right to reach out to women on issues they care about. Her instinct to attack instead of honestly respond caused a firestorm. One she, IMO, deserves because she could not, would not, keep from denying Ann Romney the right to be as interested in issues as any other woman.
     
    Rosen stayed on the message of class warfare that the left is waging every day. That it didn’t work doesn’t mean they will not do it again. And again.

    • Flop_Flipper

      They never seem to let context get in the way of their “message.”

  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew J. Weaver

    What BS from Parker and others defending and promoting Rosen’s asinine position.  Of course Ann Romney, as with any woman, has full standing and right to discuss “women’s issues”–she’s a women, isn’t that enough?  Or, do only certain women qualify to talk?  If so, then who is to represent, for example, women who choose to raise their own kids?

    And then, shall we apply this logic to foreign policy concerns that might involve the military?  Thus, only those–like me–who served in the military have standing to have opinions and discuss the topic?  Now, personally I’d love to see that as 98% of the neo-cons and chicken hawks would be shut up.  But, alas, everyone has a voice…

    • Flop_Flipper

      If there were any real journalists left they could do a simple experiment and randomly interview working women to see what their real concerns are. A simple question such as: “Is getting free contraception more important than earning a paycheck?”, might be a good start.

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    1994 Ann Romney herself said she never worked ( see” 
    http://gothamist.com/2012/04/14/ann_romney_in_1994_mitt_thought_it.php 

    Can you stop it with the faux outrage now? Eh? When the woman herself used the exact same terminology? … Come on now: Admit how ridiculous you are being. You can never grow if you don’t admit you are wrong.

    • Anthony_1

      Yes. The Boston Globe.  Very fair and balanced…  Thanks, Marvy.  I believe you now (eye roll)

      • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

        This is her own quote. You can’t claim “liberal bias” on this one kids. This is HER OWN WORDS. She said she never worked. 

    • Flop_Flipper

      Nice little hit piece you quote asshole. Loved (/s) the “Ann Romney’s sweetheart deal.” You despicable fricking Obot. Fluke Off!

      • Roger Elder

        The need for liberals to be right will be their undoing… they are born from academia after all… and these people do think they know what is best for all of America.

      • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

        No response to her own quote? Ann Romney herself said she never worked. It’s the same thing Rosen said. Why is it a big deal when Rosen says it if Ann Romney said the exact same thing? … Come on now! Get those brain cells rubbin’ together!

  • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

    Here’s a great analogy of Republicans vs liberal democrats I heard awhile back.’

    The group sitting in the coffee shop complaining about everything from their pitiful paychecks to the world’s lack of understanding of their plight are the liberal Democrats.  The guy that runs and owns the coffee shop and is in the process if building two more outlets, making money through his hard work, planning , and taking responsibility is, of course, the Republican.

    • Dolly Cain

      Not mention actually providing jobs.

  • HELENK2

    stolen from the crawdad hole

    this lady is awesome.  Marge put in a vote for me in your state

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FU8BCmrAazs#!

    • HELENK2

       she is my new hero

    • FormerLib160

      Love her!

    • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

      Now there’s a message that works!  She’s great!

    • Anthony_1

      She’s awesome!

      Would love to see Dana and Rosen debate this issue

      • Flop_Flipper

        So you’re into bloodsports?

        • Anthony_1

          depends on who’s blood

    • Flop_Flipper

      When folks talk about someone rockin the house, this is exactly what they mean. Awesome video. And I agree: Bite me Libs!

  • RebelCarol

    It is my opinion that the “War on Women” and the continuing saga is getting boring and it is the Republican Machine that is keeping it going.  The Repugs took what Rosen said and blew it all out of proportion.  A lot of us knew what she meant.

    If Mitt wants his wife kept out of the fray then he shouldn’t have brought her into the limelight. 

    Maybe this is Class Warfare and the Republicans are engaging in it too. 

    Ann Romney was a “stay-at-home” mom who had help from the church.  We Moms who worked outside the home were and are the super Moms.  We cleaned our homes, washed our childrens’ clothes, made breakfasts, lunches and dinners and also managed to make sure our children got to school on time and to their respective sports practices and games; supervised homework.  Payed bills, etc., all that Ann did plus more.I could go on and on as to what us “Working Moms” go through

    we are the “Real Working Moms”  and the continuation of it is going to come back and bite Romney and the Republicans in the you know what!

    Do I sound mad?  Well I am!

    • FormerLib160

      Well I’m mad too. Hilary Rosen can stuff it.

      As to you………. same thing.

    • HARP2

       Don`t worry. Obama can be more flexible after the election.

      • TeakWoodKite

        I just want him to bend over on November 4th.

      • Flop_Flipper

        Good. Then he can fuck himself instead of us for a change.

    • beachnan

       What bullshit RebelCarol.  You sound frickin jealous.   Rosen was out of line to say that Ann never worked a day in her life.  She said it.  So deal with it.  There is no such thing as working Moms or non-working Moms.  All Mothers work.  You don’t get it.  You demean all women when you try and say that a woman is only working if she has a paid job.  Reminds me of the 50′s and 60′s, when women were being told by their men, that they had very little say, since they weren’t bringing home the paycheck.   It is the dems who are stuck in the 60′s.  If you have a choice and you can stay home with your children, then God bless you.  If you can afford it, but choose to work, God bless you.  If you can’t afford it and have to work, then God bless you too.  We all have made choices.  Some women marry wealthy men, some marry bums, and some don’t get married at all.  Who made those choices?  Take responsibility for your own actions, and respect the rights of others to do the same.  Jealousy is unbecoming on any woman.  Your green is showing.

      • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

        Yup. The old green eyed monster called jealousy.  I didn’t realize until now how foreign a concept the idea of CHOICE is to ladies of the liberal ilk.

        Since I was a card carrying liberal at one time, I can attest that libbie women see themselves as elite and above others.  But I am amazed at how they are so nasty, vindictive, and jealous of others.

        Responsibility is also a foreign concept.  Who would have thought?  But after over 40 years of being told they were victims, I guess they are just another offshoot of the entitlement mentality.

        • HoosierinDixie

          Its the hypocrisy that pisses me off. They claim Ann Romney is not qualified to speak on the behalf of the women she has encountered who are concerned about the failing economy because she is a  rich stay at home mother. How could she possibly relate to that? Well what about Michelle Obama? How can she relate to women who struggle to feed their children. She can stick her nose in our kitchens but she doesn’t cook the meals, grocery shop, pack school lunches, clip coupons  and she sure the hell doesn’t have to worry about the price of organic arugala. You  can also bet your sweet ass she is not tending the White House vegetable garden. But I won’t be like those envious bitches who are so willing to disparage Ann yet ignore  Michelle’s lack of “real world experience.” Childhood obesity is a serious problem and Michelle has a national platform to make a positive difference. Ann Romney also has a national platform and I believe she should use it.

          • Dolly Cain

            What you said. Thank you.

    • Anthony_1

      If Mitt wants his wife kept out of the fray then he shouldn’t have brought her into the limelight.

      Do you remember when Obama said “Lay off my wife” ? Well, thanks for the invitation to start going after Manzilla.  After all, “he (Obama) brought her into the limelight”.  See how well that’s working for you? Thanks again.

      Ann Romney was a “stay-at-home” mom who had help from the church.  We Moms who worked outside the home were and are the super Moms.  We cleaned our homes, washed our childrens’ clothes, made breakfasts, lunches and dinners and also managed to make sure our children got to school on time and to their respective sports practices and games; supervised homework.  Payed bills, etc., all that Ann did plus more.I could go on and on as to what us “Working Moms” go through

      Puh-leeeeeeze…   You’ve got to be kidding me.  Just because someone has some (or even a lot of ) money doesn’t mean that they don’t have relatives or acquaintances who are in need. Are you that myopic that you really believe that people can’t see beyond their own circumstances??

      You sound mad, alright.  

      Mad as a fucking hatter.

    • Flop_Flipper

      I have nothing but respect for working moms and stay at home moms. But I have nothing but contempt for liberals that attack someone then pretend as if it is those that defend against the attack are the ones that started it.

      Rosen directly attacked Ann Romney. She stated quite plainly that Ann had no idea what women face because she “never worked a day in her life.” Now you can backpedal and try to spin your nonsense any way you want. And we expect you to because that’s what Dems do. But don’t expect the wide eyed, brain conscious people here to put up with your bullshit and faux angst.

      Do we sound mad? You ain’t seen nothing yet.

    • EllenD818

      “We cleaned our homes”
      I’m now a super grandmom but with this line you’re way better at it than I am, Carol.

  • HELENK2
    • Flop_Flipper

       

      “I can promise that I will try to do it in the first year of my second term. I want to try this year,” Obama told Univision.

      He made this promise in 2008, saying he would do it during his first year in office. I don’t recall him ever fulfilling this promise.

  • Flop_Flipper

    Question of the day:

    Were the members of the Jed Clampett family Democrats or Republicans? 

    • FormerLiberal9

      They were rich so they must have been Republicans. 

      • Flop_Flipper

        I was thinking that their moral beliefs are what would make them Republicans. They didn’t take kindly to folks that just wanted handouts and refused to work for them. They were very generous but expected the people they helped to do something with their lives.

        • Roger Elder

          Exactly. The Clampetts would never have signed up for any kind of government benefits. They would eat possums first and Granny would sew up their old and tattered clothes and they would make do. 

          I grew up knowing many people not that different from the Clampetts… except they never struck the oil. They would never be liberals. Never.

  • HELENK2

    for all of you in the midwest in the vicinity of these storms  please stay safe

    aser4850 tweeted:

    Developing: ***Oklahoma and Kansas have activated their state emergency operation centers due to the tornado outbreak***

    • Flop_Flipper

      Totally agree with that great advice.

  • HELENK2

    these are really brave women. wonder if backtrack and bunch will support them
    what are the odds of now or any of those phony women’s organization speaking out

    btw guess who works to help women like this George and Laura Bush

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/14/aghans-march-womens-justice-kabul

    afghan women’s justice

  • TeakWoodKite

    “the firm refuses to register as an ordinary lobbying firm”

    What are the legal requirements that this firm operates under? Does the fact that they are “privately held” and are not required to disclose their client list infer a conflict of public interest? The irony being that Obama himself railed against such a lack of transparency in 2008. To date his words are worthless “jackass” dung. 
    It is interesting that SKDKnickerbocker [Anita Dunn] has clients who oppose Obama on policy matters, giving the appearance of being above board. Looked at another way, the company could be acting as a front in the pay to play “flexible” money laundering ops the Obama Inc. have been running.
    Hilary Rosens political contributions

  • HELENK2

    the Egyptian election is getting interesting. 10 candidates including the one from the MB disqualified

    http://news.yahoo.com/egypt-disqualifies-top-islamists-mubarak-vp-vote-190548347.html

    • FormerLiberal9

      Thanks for the link Helen. 

  • http://twitter.com/MarvinMarks Marvin Marks

    Manufactured outrage. Silly! This fake outrage over this nonsense is actually a huge mistake by the right wing political machine and I think this shows how much the Obama campaign has them on the ropes.

    The reason this is a big mistake is that it continues the idea of women’s rights as a major campaign issue and it’s obvious that Obama and the Democrats have an enormous advantage on this issue. 

    • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

      Are they paying you by the word? 

      LOL!

      • Hokma

        If so it is a waste of money.

        • KenoshaMarge

          That’s true because he doesn’t seem to know very many. Does redundant pay well?

        • Flop_Flipper

          Well, they are experts at wasting money so Marvin here is well qualified to represent them.

    • Anthony_1

      You sure say “Silly” a lot,  Is that the latest strategy from the Obama campaign? 

      What’s silly to me is that a jackass like yourself continues to think you can make any sense among sensible people.But do go on…….  you amuse me…

    • HARP2

       Obama sure does support those Muslim women Huh ?

      • Roger Elder

        Supports their right to wear a burqa around in the desert heat… supports their right to be caned if they forget their place… he seems to support that… at least by his actions he does.

    • HARP2

        King Barack now has a second chance to make a Fluke’n phone call to Ann
      Romney to see if she is OK after these attacks. It would be the “fair
      thing to do” since he still has two daughters.

      • TeakWoodKite

        who, according to Obama, would not want to “punish them with a child”.

      • Flop_Flipper

        And an imaginary son.

        • Anthony_1

          Oh, SNAP!!

    • HARP2

       Hey Marvin

      I thought you liked the war on women theme or at least you did on another site when you wrote…….

      The Democrats are absolute morons if they walk away from the “War on
      Women” now. Morons! Come on! This is a winner. The Republicans
      are squealing like pigs because it’s working. Don’t stop now.

      • beachnan

         Harp, is he really that stupid?  The Dems blew it, and he wants to keep digging an even bigger hole.

      • TeakWoodKite

        Soon the pig squealith no more.

    • TeakWoodKite

      “it’s obvious that Obama and the Democrats have an enormous advantage on this issue.”

      If it was about “womens rights” and not about them, you would have a point. But it isn’t. about that. It’s about how to use them as political cannon fodder. Obama must have pissed himself again.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      “.. it’s obvious that Obama and the Democrats have an enormous advantage on this issue.”  Yep, that’s why 97 percent in a recent Washington Post poll supported Ann Romney.

      But it’s OK, keep going after mothers.  It’s a great issue.  Hit it hard, in fact, have the President go after it.  He should say how his wife is a better mother than Ann Romney, but how his own wife is off limits because she is too busy raising their kids to campaign.  Go for it.

  • Roger Elder

    “President Obama, reminding folks that he was raised by a single mom, noted that women who stay home with children are doing hard work and that anyone who argues otherwise should “rethink their statement.”

    Right. Because as we know everything is strangely all about him.

    • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

      Right.  Obama’s mother who gave him to her mother to raise at age ten.
       

      • Anthony_1

        Yes, the same Mother who supposedly was on food stamps…..  ROFL!!!

        • samb1

          or couldn’t get health insurance,
          ALL LIES!!!!

        • FLDemFem

           Actually, she was on food stamps for a while. When she was at graduate school. Obama was living with his grandparents on Mercer Island at the time and not on food stamps. It is quite common for grad students to get food stamps, since their income is usually very low.

          • Flop_Flipper

            I remember Obama saying that “we” were on food stamps. Perhaps my addled mind isn’t remembering everything correctly but that’s what stands out concerning the issue.

      • Roger Elder

        I actually forgot that for most of the time when he was being raised by a single mom… his mom was actually married to some guy in Indonesia. Yes… that all being before the time when he was handed off to banker grandparents… It is hard to keep up. 

        • Flop_Flipper

          Very good point. So for how many months was he raised by a “single” mother? I’m sure we will never know the truth.

          • Anthony_1

            Months in a row? or a cumulative total.  As I recall, she dumped him on her parents frequently.  From what I’ve read, she “raised” him in Indonesia for the longest consecutive number of months before sending him to his Grandparents.

    • samb1

      Obama may have been hatched, 
      or some type of  X-Files experiment?
      He is Mr. Manchurian.
      Take your pick……

      LOL

      • Flop_Flipper

        Rosemary’s baby.

        • Anthony_1

          who was eventually raised by Minnie and Roman…

          This is getting too scary, dude

          • Flop_Flipper

            I was going to say that he was born from that jackal in the original The Omen movie but thought that might be a little too insulting. Or obvious.

            And I sure wouldn’t want to piss off Jesse James Dupree.

          • Anthony_1

            or innocent jackals

  • samb1

    All roads lead to Obama.
    I’m not surprised.
    Obama is consistent, 
    he never gets his own hands dirty.

    • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

      I’m using Peggy Noonan’s word for Obama – CREEPY….

      OMG …..so creepy.

  • foxyladi14

    Rosen made a big boo boo.

  • HARP2

     Catholics Called to Witness released this powerful video for the 2012
    election. The values ad includes this powerful quote from Cardinal
    Dolan:

    “Forcing the Church to buy insurance that goes against her teachings is a
    violation of religious freedom… When the government tampers with a
    freedom so fundamental, one shudders to think what lies ahead.”

    From the video: Will you vote the values that will
    stand the test of fire? Some things are more important than high gas
    prices or a faltering economy. They are life, marriage and freedom. This
    November, Catholics must stand up and protect their sacred rights and
    duties.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=D9vQt6IXXaM

    • Flop_Flipper

       A powerful film. And only the first shot. This is going to get very interesting as the months advance. I doubt Obama saw this one coming.

  • FLDemFem

    I have one question for all the people who diss Ann Romney for staying at home and raising her kids. If it’s not hard work, way over 8 hrs. a day, and unpaid to boot, then why don’t we have more Mr. Moms? Why aren’t more men with high-earning wives at home with the kids? There are many men who have wives who earn enough to keep the family nicely going and you don’t see any of them saying they are making the choice to stay home with their kids. If it’s so easy, why don’t more men do it? Aren’t men supposed to be more nurturing these days?

    • Flop_Flipper

      I have a cousin that is a stay at home dad. He and his wife have 7 children and he gets quite a workout every single day.

    • OaktownK

       This proves why this whole thing is just phony outrage against a straw man.  Nobody actually believes that taking of children is easy.  In my own case, my wife stays home with our three young children, and it’s obvious that her work is far more difficult than my office job.  As you point out, if it were so easy, men and women would be clamoring to do it.

      Following the births of each of my children, I took 2-3 months of unpaid leave to spend time with my family at home.  In each case, the day I went back to work left me thinking, “wow, compared to being at home with the kids, my job is easy.”  And that has been the experience of every mother and father I’ve ever known who has gone back to work after taking time to raise their children.

      It may be smart politics to pretend that there’s some movement attacking mothers for staying at home with their children, but it doesn’t exist.  Don’t forget how maligned Hillary Clinton was for saying, “I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas, but what I decided to do was to fulfill my profession…”

      • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

        The outrage started in this instance by Rosen’s derisive statements.

        Can’t walk away from that one.

      • DianaLC

        The outrage arose becaue Ann Romney simply reported to her husband that most of the women she met on the campaign trail said their biggest concern was the economy.  Then she–who had only been the messenger–was attacked as having no credibility about finances because “she had not worked a day in her life.” 

        Don’t try to change history or minimize the attack.

        • Flop_Flipper

          The implication is that she didn’t have the brain to understand what women have said to her because she was a stay at home mom, thus an empty headed buffoon.

      • Flop_Flipper

        You might be an idiot Obot but you are a fine parent. Kudos dude.

    • DianaLC

      Exactly…..

      I recently worked with an intelligent young woman who had two children.  When her mother-in-law could no longer provide daycare for her children, she ended up paying almost her entire paycheck for licensed daycare in our state.  She might as well have quit the job and done it herself, except she didn’t want to come back later and start over.  She first looked into becoming a licensed daycare provider herself instead of working in the company, but the costs to get that set up were not cheap either.  It’s a no win situation for woman, that is sure.  And it is much easier financially in some regards if one spouse can stay home because the other can work.  I tell you, though, the cost of paying for daycare for five young children would have been enormous.

      When I was a single mother with one young son the first time, the divorce laws at the time were so outdated that the child support I received did not in any way cover my expenses for day care and medical care for my son.  My ex did have to carry medical insurance for him, but at that time the office visits and prescription costs were mine to be taken from that piddly child support check.

      Divorce law has moved a long way in the right direction, forcing more reasonable child support payments than they did when I was young.  But, I can also recall teaching at the community college and having to date, write in the time, and sign forms for young male students when they entered my class and then when they left it.  That was for them to present at the jail when they returned.  When I discovered I had jail inmates in my class, I was a little unnerved.  It was explained to me that they were being jailed for refusal to pay child support, not violent crimes.  That didn’t make me feel any better about them at all.

      • Flop_Flipper

        Well, at least the were trying to better themselves through education so that they could afford to make the child support payments.

        I’m no fan of deadbeat dads (or moms) but sometimes the way they determine these required support payments defies logic. I know someone that once divorced was required to make substantial payments. Once he lost his job the requirement to pay the same amount applied. Not being able to make these payments he was eventually jailed. And during no time after the divorce was he able to see his children even though a court had ordered that he be able to. His ex merely ignored the order, moved and kept him away from his children. I might also add that his ex wasn’t even a US citizen but was afforded the protection of our legal/social network.

        So this stuff isn’t as cut and dried as some would have you believe.

        • DianaLC

          On this one I’d have to disagree.  Remember, I was teaching the classes.  These were students taking pre-college level courses, not putting much effort into them, and enjoying their time away from jail.  They were very young, probably, in the town I was in at the time, part of some gang.  They may have had numerous children from numerous young women. 

          I know that family law and divorce courts often make no sense.  And it’s often a factor of who gets the nastiest lawyer.  Magistrates and judges hate divorce trials and so don’t often really put much consideration into them.  Believe me, I’ve been through it.  But for every man who has been hurt in terms of custody decisions, there are equal numbers of women who have been hurt.

          I am pretty darned certain none of these young men went on to do much to “better” themselves.

          (At one time, I had an older woman in one of my classes whose work was pretty bad.  Then I read an interview of her in a local news story.  She was the mother of a local gang leader protesting his arrest.  Made me think twice about how I should grade her work.  I assigned the grade she deserved but watched my back occasionally the next semester.  Think of the community college that had to ban the shooter of Gabby Giffords shortly before he went on his shooting spree.  At community colleges, you can find some wonderful people, interesting people—but as with any public schoool, in them you will often find some people you may not want to meet.)

          • Flop_Flipper

            I stand corrected. Thank you.

          • EllenD818

            Thanks, Diana. I also taught at a Community College where I found that many of my students were required by various agencies to take courses that were supposed to prepare them for getting jobs. Parolees and Welfare Mothers were among them.

            With regards to the area I taught – CG animation, this is not a skill you pick up quickly and waltz into a job.
            One of the women taking CG animation also was taking Oceanography and Belly Dancing.
            Serious in a career pursuit? I think not.

  • Flop_Flipper

    This weekend it’s rainy and a little chilly here so my initial plans to catch up with yard work have been put on hold. I have forced myself to complete my tax returns, and that’s enough work for one day. Tax forms are so frickin complicated it is ridiculous.

    • wylrae

      “Tax forms are so frickin complicated it is ridiculous.”

      Agree wholeheartedly!  Have been our taxes for 45+ years and helping my sons with their small business taxes for the past 12 or so years.  Over the years I have witnessed the ungodly increase in forms and instructions.  I am convinced that there has to be some committee(s) who just sit around and think about how they can make the forms and instructions more confusing.

      As for simplifying the way we pay taxes.  IMHO it just ain’t going to happen.  Must be a pretty good lobby against making things so the average taxpayer can figure out and complete their own tax forms; guess it would decrease the number of CPA’s, accountants, etc. for whom it is pretty much a full-time business.  The past few years there seemed to have been sort of an effort(well talked about at least) to reduce the size of the tax code and make it easier for people to file, but I doubt we will see that come to pass.  In fact, I believe I have a better chance of being struck by lightning than having our politicians do something that makes it easier for taxpayers to file their tax returns.

      • DianaLC

        Tax time is the most tense time in my house.  My sig other, because he has a much more complicated return since he is the executor of two estates and has more money in the market than I do, has to spend a day just getting his documents in order for his tax accountant. 

        Then he does mine, my daughter-in-law’s, and my son’s taxes.   It’s always the time where we are most in danger of killinga each other.  It shouldn’t have to be so intense—and you’re right:  over the years it’s just gotten worse.

        So seveal days of warfare, and then a long truce.  Of the six forms–three federal and three state–I mailed two off immediately after he completed them two weeks ago because those would provide returns.  The other four I just mailed this afternoon.

  • Flop_Flipper

    I coulda sworn that lib women were against war. Maybe it’s only wars started by men that they oppose.

    • FLDemFem

       Name one war that wasn’t started by men. Just one.

      • Flop_Flipper

         The faux war started by Nancy Pelosi.

  • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

    Basically the libs are full of anger.  There’s nothing worse than an angry liberal woman.  Why?  They are blinded by their hatred of any thing or any one that doesn’t conform to their mentality.  The aberration, in their mind, must be destroyed.

    These women are so bound up by their ideology, they’re slaves to their own false beliefs.

    They wouldn’t know personal freedom if it bit them in the azz.

    • Flop_Flipper

      They are so used to seeing themselves as victims that they can’t see anything else. Like vampires, they cast no image in a mirror.

      • TeakWoodKite

        and they fear the light of day too.

        • Flop_Flipper

          And let’s not forget crucifixes.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      Keen insight.  When parents (not just mothers) talk about their children, they are not sitting their thinking, “Oh, but 
      s/he’s rich,  s/he’s poor, etc., etc..  They are thinking about what they have in common, which is their love for their children and how that is what they have in common.  If the Obama campaign tries to separate parents by class envy, and the Republicans try to unite parents by their common parenthood, Mr. Obama will lose in November.

    • CathyInKs

      Maybe the anger of liberal women is because they’re putting up with the misogyny of liberal men.  I just can’t believe the hypocrisy of liberal male friends on “fb”.  They claim to be for women’s rights but then excuse a book written by a Muslim man advocating “wife beating” may sometimes be necessary to control your wife.  BTW this book was for sale in Canada – not Afghanistan!  The rationalization was this was no different than Christians writing books and giving marital advice. 
      Using “liberal logic”, I guess the conclusion I can draw from this is that liberal women better exercise their “contraceptive  rights” and use contraception because if they get pregnant, their “liberal partner” may beat them up because that’s the only option of “control” he has left over her.

  • Flop_Flipper

    I found this. Nice analysis and worth a full read.

    The Left’s problem with Ann Romney transcends her husband’s wealth, her (and his) Republican identification, and her decision to work for her children, rather than for a paying employer.  The Left’s problem with Ann Romney is that she represents the triumph of the individual.  No wonder they hate her so much.

    • HELENK2

       read it and it is a great article, I stole it and reposted it

      • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

        The liberals of today being compared to the ’60′s slogan of “male chauvinist pigs”  is absolutely priceless!

        No kidding.  I hope GOP operatives are picking up on this for campaign ads.  

    • TeakWoodKite

      Thanks. :)

  • HELENK2

    here is part of the problem
    indoctrination not education.  schools no longer teaching critical thinking. Without it we will have more backtrack’s in the future.

    http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2012/04/12/teaching-as-a-subversive-activity-the-theory-of-political-indoctrination/

    • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

      Proves the point of Roger L Simon’s article about the libs are hopelessly out of touch.

      The prof’s lecture was taken from a book published in 1969.

    • Flop_Flipper

      It’s true. Children are not being taught to think for themselves in our schools. Instead they are indoctrinated with someone else’s thoughts. Real logic requires being able to understand an issue from many points of view and to then make a rational conclusion based upon all the facts available. There is much too little of this engendered in our schools and within political discourse.

      • EllenD818

        Perhaps if they taught REAL debating again where you don’t get to pick your side.

        • Flop_Flipper

          I had an Environmental Law professor that taught real debating. I drew the unfortunate position of having to debate her. I managed to use her positions to demonstrate that she was wrong. And I won. Not so sure I could repeat it though.

    • DianaLC

      The thing is that parents–who are very busy making a living, managing their households, and dealing with children’s out of school lives, often just can’t find the time to figure out what exactly is going on in classrooms.  As a teacher, I KNEW what kind of idiocy was passing as eduction in “social studies” classes.  I also KNEW that many English techers preferred to assign “social issue” novels and then spend time discussing social issues, “raising consciousness,” etc. rather than really teaching ways to build up thinking skills, writing skills, and reading skills. 

      Many of the teachers cringed when they knew my kids would be in their classes, and others didn’t mind because I had picked them to be my kids’ teachers, whenever I could.

  • beachnan

    The real problem with people like Hilary Rosen and the NOW leader is that they don’t, can’t, won’t see that there is a problem with what they are saying.  They are as divisive as our President.  In the minds of these elite liberals there is only one way to think and that is their way.  If you are a conservative woman,  people can call you all sorts of names and that is perfectly fine with these people.  They look down on all of us because we just don’t get it.  We’re not seeing how absolutely brilliant they all are.  We are the uniformed, so we deserve to be called c–ts, whores, bitches, and sluts.  They remind me of unions.  At one time, unions were needed for safety, better pay, better working conditions, but now they seem to represent  greed and overreach.  I used to believe in NOW.   I don’t anymore.  These people need a wake-up call.   I certainly hope they get one in November.

    • Flop_Flipper

      I get a strong feeling that the wake up call will be coming much sooner. Not that they will answer it.

    • KenoshaMarge

      The trouble with women like Rosen and Terry O’Neil is that they somehow seem to think they have the right to speak for all women.

      As a woman who worked most of my life I can tell you that they don’t speak for me. No job I ever held allowed me to waltz in and out of the White House.

      While I was waiting tables in a Truck Stop no one asked me to go on television and give my biased opinion.

      While I was working at Wal~Mart I didn’t make the kind of salary that these women receive without a second thought.

      While I was working as a Secretary-Receptionist at a non-profit I was only allowed to work part-time because of “budget” constraints while our director earned $100,000.00 dollars a year and rubbed shoulders with Dem Governor Jim Doyle and Dem Senator Herb Kohl. Shoulder rubbing was for the big shots and lowly little peons were ignored except when election time rolled around. Then Doyle and Kohl would stop at my desk and shake hands and deign to notice me. After that I never voted for either one of the phony SOB’s again.

      Women’s Party? Ain’t no such thing. Any woman that believes that is only fooling herself.

      • EllenD818

        Oh don’t say no women’s party, Marge, I’ve been looking forward to meeting you all one day . I’ll bring the cheap champagne.

  • FormerLiberal9

    Seriously this is the gift that just keeps giving.  It seriously amazes me that these liberals don’t know when to shut up. A story which should have only lasted one or two news cycles keeps getting refreshed and made even bigger by people who should know better. And it shows that the Obama campaign can’t do anything to stop it in its tracks.

    Maybe there is no “War On Women” but there certainly a War For Women’s Votes going on. And it is clear the Romney forces have the upper hand in this Battle by using better tactics.

    Interesting article about SKDKnickerbocker. Maybe a few old ghosts to haunt the Obama campaign. The president of the Mao fan club back in the spotlight and tied to Rosen.

     

    • Flop_Flipper

      I said over a month ago that the apparent cease fire on the part of the libs was merely a reloading time out. Don’t expect this war to go away any time soon. It’s their meme and they’re sticking to it.

      • foxyladi14

         Like glue FF

      • Roger Elder

        Liberals don’t have the capacity to understand regular America. It is almost like we have two kinds of people in the nation now… Americans and liberals. It seems they are committed to the scorched Earth path of anarchy and Cloward-Piven activities. It is easier to tear down than it is to build… and this nation’s structure is being torn apart by liberals.

      • KenoshaMarge

        They can’t let go. They need the women’s vote.

        Bullshit drivel like the “War On Women” has to be used because the truth doesn’t play so well.

        i.e.

        Information from a July 2011 Pew poll based on Bureau of Labor Statistics data casts Obama’s economic policies in a rather chauvinistic light, considering men have fared much better than women under his leadership.

        From June 2009 through May 2011, men gained 768,000 jobs and lowered their unemployment rate 1.1 percent, while women lost 218,000 jobs, and their unemployment rate rose by 0.2 percent.

        The study found the recovery has “favored men over women in all but one of the 16 major sectors of the economy.” In five sectors, women lost jobs while men gained them.

        In other sectors, men gained jobs at a faster rate than women and lost them at a slower rate than women. State government was the only sector favoring women.

        http://townhall.com/columnists/susanbrown/2012/04/15/women_hoodwinked_by_the_democrat_spin_machine

        • Flop_Flipper

          Loved this part of the article:

          According to the poll, Obama broke a 42-year record: “The recovery from the Great Recession is the first since 1970 in which women have lost jobs even as men have gained them.” Obama did promise to be a different kind of president.

          With Democrats in control for the first two years of Obama’s presidency, all the hype would make one believe women would be advancing across the economic battlefield with boldness. But, just like in war, when your leadership is run by “girlie men,” things don’t end well.

          • KenoshaMarge

            The truth isn’t important to those who convinced they all ready know everything. And what they know is that some Republicans don’t believe that abortion is right. Therefore all Republicans are trying to take away women’s “reproductive freedom.” Or some such nonsense.

            Because Rick Santorum shot off his mouth against contraception, all Republicans want to deny women the right to contraception. This meme lie was used to make all of us who are not against contraception, just against having to pay for it for the Flukes of this world.

            Too many people think they are informed if they can parrot a talking point or two. There is a very good chance they wouldn’t believe you if you pointed out the facts in that article. If you could even get them to listen.

          • http://twitter.com/shekissesfrogs Iguana Keeper

            In other words: only real chauvinist men, rather than “girlie men” are able to advance women’s rights. 
            At least four sides are wrong here, (including you) opportunistically using the cause of women’s self determination and equality for political advantage while simultaneously demeaning us.

            • Flop_Flipper

               I haven’t demeaned you or any women. Not sure where you came up with that conclusion. But since you are an Obot all things are possible in your twisted minds. Take your meme with you on your way out the door.

          • Hokma

            Iguana Keeper -

            When you refer to “the cause of women’s self determination and equality” are you referring to unequal pay, unequal job opportunities, or just back to the right to have abortions whenever you feel like?

            As far as demeaning, I thnk Hillary Rosen did a damn good job of demeaning most women in this country.

            Let me ask you, how many female GOP governors are there and how many female Dem governors are there? How come when we see a female CEO decide to run for a high political office it is a Republican?

    • Anthony_1

      Maybe there is no “War On Women” but there certainly a War For Women’s Votes going on. And it is clear the Romney forces have the upper hand in this Battle by using better tactics.

      True, but I also believe there’s something else going on.

      This is also about class warfare, and sometimes I wonder if the women’s issue is really part of it? or just a clever way to subliminally “train” us to equate it as a gender war.

      If you listen to Rosen’s effectively brilliant slam on Ann Romney, it had more to do with women with money than working women v non-working women.  I say “effectively brilliant” because even the Obama supporters who pretend to be outraged about it spew about  the value of the work a stay-at-home Mom has, rather than “someone who never had to work a day in their life”

      Ever since OFA rolled out the OWS movement the OWS movement emerged, I suspected it was because the presumptive nominee (according to Axelwhore) even back then was Romney.  

      Now, the same meme continues, but in a subtle and more convoluted fashion, this time dressed in women’s clothing

      Pitting black against white, rich against poor, men against women - hmmmmm……..  smells like 2008 all over again to me

      • FormerLiberal9

         I think the class warfare issue was the main target in Rosen’s comments. The attack on stay at home mom’s was a mistake on the part of Rosen.

        ” Pitting black against white, rich against poor, men against women - hmmmmm……..  smells like 2008 all over again to me”

        Axelrod is very good at this game but the devide and conquer technique can be done by both campaigns. And I think we may be witnessing this now with these current events. Romney only has to peel off a bit of the womans vote to defeat BO.  

        Someone behind the scenes of the Romney camp is doing a very good job in playing Obama’s game against him. The Republicans didn’t have this kind of game going in 2008 now it looks like they do and its knocking the Dems message off the cliff.

        Frankly I love the intrigue of politics it is going to be a fun campaign.

        • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

          Oh, I think the GOP has had at least 4 years to figure out a strategy…

          The beauty is that Obama and Co just keep handing the GOP ammo to fire back on the Hopey Dopers camp.

          • FormerLiberal9

            Like shooting ducks on a pond.

        • Anthony_1

          Well, in 2008 things got close during the primary when Hillary brought up Rezko.  That, apparently, was as close as it came before the R&B Committee silenced her (along with the DNC)

          McCain had a good shot, until after Bear Stearns broke and McCain said “The fundamentals of our economy are strong”.  That, along with the savaging of Palin made it clear that Obama was going to win the GE.

          This time around, there’s no DNC to get in the way of Obamapolitics, and expect to see a lot of 527′s mentioning everything from Rev. Wright to Rezko to Ayers.

          Now, with this salvo fired by Rosen, even Manzilla isn’t off limits.

          I expect it to be particularly brutal, and I fully expect Obama to be on the defensive (and that’s not wishful thinking – its because there’s so much material that wasn’t used in ’08 that will be trotted out now.

          Yes, I agree its going to be a fun campaign, but I’m not sure if I’ll participate even as a spectator.

          I’ve already decided that I’m voting for Romney, and hope he’s going to win. Not because he’s ABO, but because I think his proven record shows that he can look at a balance sheet and decide what needs to be cut and what needs to be funded.  I think that he can also create a lot more jobs than are being created now.

          The fact that even my cat yowls and leaves the room when she hears his voice (no lie, and no, I didn’t train her to do that) has nothing to do with it

          • FormerLiberal9

            “The fact that even my cat yowls and leaves the room when she hears his voice ”

            LOL

            Must be a racist cat if it doesn’t like BO?

          • DianaLC

            Unlike FormerLiberal9 who guessed, I’m sure sarcastically, that your cat must be racist, I am going with my deep knowledge of cats–they are smarter than most humans.  You have an exceptionally intelligent cat.

          • BronwynsHarbor

            Anthony, video-tape your cat yowling like that, and send it to Greg Gutfeld.

            (btw, did you mean that your cat yowls and leaves when she hears Obama? Or Romney? Well … I see that everyone else understood you were referring to Obama so forget my Qs.)

          • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

            Our cat runs, too.  But it could be from the barrage of expletives that follow any spit second visual/sound bite of Obama.

            The channel gets promptly changed.

          • Anthony_1

              Formerliberal9 - 

             My cat racist????  :lol:
            I’ve accused her of that when she growls at the TV and walks away. She doesn’t care.  She just can’t stand the sound of his voice

              DianaLC - 
            Yes, they’re smarter than everyone.  If someone doesn’t pass the CAT scan (you know the way they check newcomers out from head to foot?), then they don’t pass muster with me.  They’ve never been wrong

            BronwynsHarbor -
            Thats a good idea.  Will try and video her.

            Veronica Verona - 
            Is it you or the cat that starts the barrage of expletives? :lol:

          • Flop_Flipper

            Hillary did indeed bring up Rezko but she depended on the media to run with it rather than expand and keep on it herself. At least, that’s how I remember it.

          • morris1030

            I have been waiting since 2008 for the Media to level with the public on what’s out there on Obama, Rezko, and the urban renewal scandals in Chicago that his mentor and financier Rezko perpetrated.
            Obama’s sweetheart deal with Rezko’s help about the purchase of his house and the adjacent lot is one for the ages, ala Chicago style.

            Obama attended Wright’s church for 20 years and didn’t know he was an anti-semite, friend of Black Muslim hatred, and hater of USA?

            The Chicago Sun Times has published tons of investigative stories on Obama’s record as State Senator and disciple of Rezko the
            Corrupt,  finally in jail. Obama has been ruthlessly corrupt in his backstory, and his current story as an inept phony continues this sad
            history.

            Hillary was pilloried, and Obama has been protected as the press has covered up for him.

            Will our so called press and media ever tell the truth about Obama’s abysmal past and match it to the present?

        • beachnan

           I think that Axelrod overplayed his hand this time.  I think we can now say Obama is a uniter. He is uniting the Republicans,  so thank you Axelrod and company.

          • KenoshaMarge

            Every now and then these so-called “brilliant” political gurus screw up. Rove did and Axelrod has or will. Their own arrogance trips them up in time.

            Don’t get me wrong they are still formidable political minds, they just aren’t as formidable or as brilliant as they think they are.

        • Flop_Flipper

          I agree with you that the Republicans learned from their mistakes in 2008. And I cheer to the heart of my being every time they call out Obama and the lib Dems for their bullshit.

        • elizabethrc

          Listening to Romney over the past week, it occurs to me that he’s decided it’s game on.  He’s more relaxed at the microphone, more centered and direct in his comments.  He doesn’t seem to make all those jerky little movements he used to and he doesn’t seem to gush with excitement like before.  I think he’s found what he needs and he’s only getting better the more I see and hear him.
          Romney has so much material which has been only reported on the back pages of newspapers.  As more and more of it is put out to the general public (and isn’t it delicious that Obama and the media can’t stop it’s getting out?!), the more appalled voters are bound to be at how they have been bilked.
          This is the gift that’s going to keep on giving.
          Overall, even though I didn’t support Romney in the beginning, I see him as a decent, rather open man who holds many of the values Americans hold.  Obama tried to present that, but he couldn’t sustain the lie.

      • Escoffier

         This is most definitely about class warfare. It was in 2008 when the DNC establishment openly threw working and middle class voters out for minorities, the wealthy and the “creatives” (whatever the hell that meant). But it goes back even further. This same group that is coming to Rosen’s defense are many of the same subset who hated the Clintons when he was in office. They hated him even though he was Ivy League and a Rhodes scholar because he went back to Arkansas instead of sticking around in the DC/NYC/Boston hack factory and cashing in. Bill Clinton was a hillbilly, white trash, womanizer. They hated his guts. They hated Hillary because she married him and stayed married to him. They cannot fathom why they are so successful. The fact that they are both smarter and more decent never seems to occur to them.
           
        They see Ann Romney and they hate her. They fear she is the antithesis of Barack and Michelle.

        • Flop_Flipper

          They fear she is the antithesis of Barack and Michelle.

          She is.

          • JJ_the_PUMA

            Hillary would have made a great president, she has been a very good secretary of state,  but she was a very controversial political wife. 
            I am a very big Hillary Clinton fan….but, Ann Romney is the most compelling political wife I’ve ever seen.  If only her husband had half the political skills she has.

          • Escoffier

             ”If only her husband had half the political skills she has.”

            Agreed but I think the voters may be sick of Political Skills and may be looking for regular skills like maturity, reason, sanity, frugality, common sense (aka gumption) and modesty. The Obamas’ (both of them) have been horribly overexposed, extravagant, vulgar, ego maniacs. While the Obamas certainly have political skills they are for their own benefit. There is a growing Obama fatigue with his over touted skills. Maybe the country wants a more normal person that doesn’t tell us how great he is and by inference how terrible we all are. It is time for him to go away. If he wants to think he is too good for the country I say whatever we don’t care.

        • CathyInKs

          You’re right!  The liberal elites hated the Clintons.  I think they hated the Clintons in part because they were “moderates” and Bill knew how to compromise.  The Clintons also are “lovers – not haters”.  (Of course when it comes to Bill,  he may have been a little too generous in his “love”.)  Bill and Hillary genuinely care about people.  That’s something the “elites” just don’t understand.  One side of their mouth talks “tolerance”, “women’s rights”, “health care for all” but out of the other side of their mouth they preach hatred and intolerance for those who are not “liberal” or “liberal enough”. 
          The Romneys are hated – not because they are “conservative” but because they are “moderates”.  Quite frankly, I don’t see much difference between the “far left” and the “far right”.  They’re just opposite sides of the same coin of “rigid ideology”.

      • Flop_Flipper

        Yep, same shit different day.

    • CathyInKs

      Agree with you totally Former Liberal9!