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Obama’s diversionary, “dog whistle” attacks [Update] * Open Thread

Mike Allen's instant digital book on the 2012 race

On Morning Joe Monday, Random House executive editor Jon Meacham asked Politico’s Mike Allen a perceptive question about Allen’s lead story (excerpt below) on the Obama campaign plans for an all-out offensive to uncover Mitt Romney‘s “penchant for secrecy.”

Allen cited examples via David Axelrod: “Why did Mitt Romney leave Massachusetts government with the hard drives from his computers, and why did his senior aides leave with the hard drives?” Axelrod also asks why Romney hasn’t revealed names of his bundlers or released tax returns.

Meacham jumped in with a rationale: “Do you think this is a dog whistle message” by Obama’s camp to circuitously bring up the Mormon church’s alleged secrecy?, asked the author of American Gospel: God, the Founding Fathers, and the Making of a Nation.

NQ regulars know a major reason: Obama needs to move the spotlight from questions about his failed presidency: Why did Obama ignore the jobs crisis, wasting two years forcing passage of the badly-flawed Obamacare, secretly making deals with insurance and pharmaceutical companies? More questions: What of those mystery years at Columbia University? What about embellishments in his faux autobiographies? [UPDATE: I am re-printing a disclosure of Obama's misleading, false stories in the autobiographies that made him millions and that gullible people believed] …

Here’s the relevant section of Mike Allen’s daily Playbook for April 16, 2012:

COMING ATTRACTIONS – David Axelrod tells us the Obama campaign will make a major umbrella issue of what he calls “Romney’s penchant for secrecy”: “George Bush felt it was appropriate to release the names of his bundlers. John McCain did. But not Mitt Romney. Why did George Bush and John McCain release multiple years of tax returns, but not Mitt Romney? Why did Mitt Romney leave Massachusetts government with the hard drives from his computers, and why did his senior aides leave with the hard drives from their computers? Why won’t he be more forthcoming about some of these offshore investments?

“Harkening back to my youth, which extends far beyond yours, there was a show called, ‘I’ve Got A Secret.’ Increasingly, I think that would be the appropriate title for the Romney campaign. There are central issues, but this is a disturbing one and it goes to that question of, like, ‘Who is this guy? What does he stand for? What does he believe? What do we know about him?’” …

Even for Axelrod, these questions are such a stretch that I am laughing out loud. Can he really be serious when he asks, “Who is this guy? What does he stand for? What does he believe? What do we know about him?”

As pundits have predicted for months, the Obama campaign has to attack Mitt Romney. Axelrod knows that his incumbent candidate does not have a record of accomplishment to run on.

When a president cannot point to any meaningful achievements as he nears four years in office, all he can do in his reelection is attack the challenger.

It’s pathetic. It’s weak. But Obama has talented campaigners going all out for him. Romney’s people will have to be on their toes, and hopefully not only anticipate Obama’s attacks but PREEMPT them.

Okay. It’s your turn.

And look for my post about the reporters who doggedly fact-checked both of Obama’s books. Like I said above, I can’t get over the millions of gullible people who bought not only his books but also his creative versions of his life story.

P.S. I stumbled on a page that lets you read a large section of Mike Allen’s e-book on the 2012 race. Go to this link and scroll down.

  • RebelCarol

    So why did Romney take the hard drive from his government-owned computer?  Why did his aides take the hard drives from their government-0wned computers.  I think he needs to provide the taxpayers of Mass. and even us the answers to those questions.

    Taking the hard drives is much more serious than Obama’s grade transcripts or the lack thereof.

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  • HELENK2

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/17/Obama-recess-appointments-lawsuit

    buy popcorn

    republicans sue backtrack over recess appointments

  • HELENK2
  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1429578258 Cerry H Klaver

    There are central issues, but this is a disturbing one and it goes to that question of, like, ‘Who is this guy? What does he stand for? What does he believe? What do we know about him?’”

    This is a gift from Axelrod.  All the republicans need to do is play interviews on PBS with the editor of Newsweek admitting days after the election that he had no idea what Obama stood for.  Think he’s got a clue now?

  • HELENK2

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/16/us-usa-citizen-renounce-idUSBRE83F0UF20120416

    there seems to be more and more of this. I can not imagine  giving up my American citizenship

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1429578258 Cerry H Klaver

      Since 2008, the number who want to rescind their American citizenship increased 8x.  yikes

      • FLDemFem

         Read the entire article. The State Dept. says the number holds steady at about 1100 a year. The IRS keeps track of people who rescind for tax reasons. Check out what it says about living abroad and still having to pay US taxes.

  • HELENK2

    another one of backtrack’s BFFs speaks
    this time it will be worse than the 60s

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/17/Exclusive-at-a-Van-Jones-Occupy-Training

  • HELENK2

    #BREAKING: Judge Jessica Recksiedler says she’ll issue order on
    #GeorgeZimmerman’s request for her to step down “no later than Friday”
     

  • HELENK2

    US federal appeals court upholds portion of Arizona voter ID law requiring voters to show identification at the polling place – @Reuter
     

  • HELENK2

    ews.investors.com/article/607988/201204161847/obama-campaigns-for-votes-in-colombia.htm?

    backtrack’s south american campaign trip

    • KenoshaMarge

      Everything is a campaign trip with this clown. This one may not have worked out the way he planned.

  • HELENK2
  • HELENK2
    • beachnan

       That was scary.  Whew-it’s time to lock and load.

  • HELENK2

    you can not make this up

    backtrack had a dem controlled congress for two weeks not two years.
    that was  a really long  two weeks

    http://usamericanfreedom.com/2012/04/17/liberal-left-obama-had-a-democrat-controlled-congress-for-2-weeks-not-2-years/

  • HELENK2
  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hank-DeCat/100001190387982 Hank DeCat

    Everyone please take 4 minutes and watch this clip. The “real” Mitt Romney is turning out to be better than expected & even CBS can’t hide it.

    http://www.therightscoop.com/cbs-news-who-is-the-real-mitt-romney-hes-not-as-plastic-as-his-critics-think/

  • HELENK2

    So far while he is in South America, he has trashed Arizona for an immigration lawl that is the same as the Federal law and will be in the supreme court next week .
    now this on the treyvon martin case and race
    We do not need any outside enemies, we have one in the white house

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/04/17/Obama-on-Univision-Politicizes-Trayvon-Again

    • KenoshaMarge

      Can anyone tell  me when a POTUS and the Attorney General has ever commented on a case that hasn’t even gone to trial?

  • HELENK2

    off topic

    a picture to keep the shuttle over the capitol bldg

    https://twitter.com/#!/hanner/status/192252109348028416/photo/1

    • HELENK2

       http://freebeacon.com/obama-ruins-kids-day/

      ex astronaut says learn to speak Russian

  • Lemuel Vargas

     Can he really be serious when he asks, “Who is this guy? What does he stand for? What does he believe? What do we know about him?”

    Maybe he is describing his boss, Obama..

  • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

    Oh, look everyone!  It’s Ophelia12!  The latest Useful Idiot demdrone sent in to TRY to intimidate, demean, and delude others!

    What’s the point of Ophelia12 wasting it’s time?  Who cares?!

  • ophelia12

    “Why did Obama ignore the jobs crisis, wasting two years forcing passage of the badly-flawed Obamacare, secretly making deals with insurance and pharmaceutical companies.”

    Not sure how passing the biggest economic stimulus bill in U.S. history in Obama first few months in offices was ignoring the jobs crisis? Yeah.. those “secret” deals were so significant that the insurance and pharmaceutical industries felt they needed to lobby against the ACA bills.

    What is the point of this post? It does not make a whole lot of sense.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      Not to mention that every meeting on the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act was broadcast on C-SPAN, just like President Obama promised during his campaign.  Everything was right out there in the open, not one secret meeting was held.  And the final vote, which passed with a strong majority, was actually taken outside in the bright sunlight of day.

      • FLDemFem

         Um, what planet was that on?? Didn’t happen on this one.

      • ophelia12

        The ACA bills were about the most debated and analyzed in U.S. history. It was debated for more than a year. There were 179 hearings, of which:

        > the House held 79 bipartisan hearings with 181 witness over 100 hours and the original house bill was posted on the Internet for more than 130 days,

        > the Senate Finance Committee had 53 hearings and 8 full days of markups,

        > and the Senate HELP Committee had another 47 bipartisan hearings which considered 300 ammendments) . The Senate spent 25 consecutive days in session on those healthcare bills.

        > There were more than 3,000 public townhalls on healthcare reform.

        The Republicans were involved in all of that and it was all pretty public. A great of amount of this was on C-SPAN. Sure there were private meetings and phone calls, just like there is with all legislation. Nothing wrong with that.

        The were a couple of hundred outside experts and many many different voices heard. It was ridiculous how many were involved in those bills.

        • Retired_from_SPOnaj

          Yes, I actually attended one of those “townhalls,” one of two held by my (Democratic) Member of Congress.  No questions were allowed at either “townhall,” it was a one way briefing developed for Democratic Representatives going to townhalls by then Speaker of the House Pelosi that made what later were revealed as false claims such as PPACA was “budget neutral.”

          “A great amount of this was on C-SPAN”?    What a bold-faced lie, and you know it. 

          “Sure there were private meetings and phones calls”?
          According to Senator Obama when he was running for President in 2008, everything was going to be on C-SPAN and out in the open to public view.  Was this just ignorance of how the system works on Senator Obama’s part, or was it a campaign promise that Mr. Obama knew as he spoke it that he never intended to keep?  And don’t give me, “Everyone makes campaign promises that they don’t keep.”  Obama claimed that he was different, a change.  He looks pretty much like business as usual to me.

          As far as the “bipartisan hearings” were concerned, I have a friend on the Hill who is a Democratic staffer who laughed over a martini about “how we locked the Republicans out of the meetings.”

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1429578258 Cerry H Klaver

            double like!

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1429578258 Cerry H Klaver

          Sure there were private meetings and phone calls, just like there is with all legislation. Nothing wrong with that.  The were a couple of hundred outside experts and many many different voices heard. It was ridiculous how many were involved in those bills.

          LMFAO  .. you are serious?  Nothing wrong with secret meetings in the White House.  Nothing wrong with those secret energy meetings conducted by the Bush administration, according to your reasoning.  IMO leaving out a very important player in the whole health care health insurance reform bill (as dubbed by Obama late summer 2009 to deflect from the original meaning of the purpose that Liberals voted him in)  – single payer advocates — while letting Big Pharma into those secret meetings  … well, there was nothing wrong with that either because Obama never said he wanted a public option.  As long as 3/4 were allowed a voice, so what if the 1/4 was missing from the debate.

    • KenoshaMarge

      Not to a dimwit like you!

  • KenoshaMarge

    A very vocal member of the “Women’s Party” shows us what they are made of on FOX yesterday. Twice.

    Beckel Behaving Badly. Again
     http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/04/16/bob-beckel-tells-female-tea-partier-live-tv-you-dont-know-what-f-k-yo

    As if behaving like a boor on Hannity wasn’t enough Beckel had all ready behaved badly earlier yesterday on “The Five.”
    I often watch “The Five” and even oftener change the channel when Beckel says something that I find stupid, offensive or dishonest. Yesterday was no different.

    During a section on the Secret Service and Prostitutes Beckel saw nothing wrong in their behavior saying what they did off duty, in a country where prostitution was legal wasn’t a problem. Or words to that effect.

     I then heard him say, and I am not quoting because I don’t remember the exact words, that the women “liked” what they did. Which left me so goshwoggled I couldn’t concentrate on what else was said. It was obvious that  Kimberly Guilfoyle, and Dana Perino, were disgusted with his attitude.

    I’m sure that young women who must go into the sex trade to survive just can’t wait to “service” some fat old POS like Beckel. Yeah, right, the same crap men have been telling themselves forever. Women just love having sex with any POS that comes along with a few bucks in his hand. Sure they do.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hank-DeCat/100001190387982 Hank DeCat

       Plus, those pigs didn’t even pay for services rendered (which is how this whole thing blew up in the first place).

      • FLDemFem

         Speaking of pigs, the DNR is engaged in whole-sale slaughter of pigs on pig farms in Michigan and arresting pig farmers as felons. One farmer had to shoot all his hogs, including a new litter of piglets, to avoid being arrested. The alleged reason behind this illegal harassment? Pigs are an invasive species. Interesting that it is happening in the state with the largest Muslim population in the US. It is outrageous. They are putting pig farmers all over the state out of business, illegally.

        Here is the link. http://www.naturalnews.com/035585_Michigan_farms_raids.html

        • FLDemFem

           Just read some of the comments and apparently the pigs being raised were crossed with feral pigs and the ranches were hunting ranches where people can go shoot a “wild boar”. Some have gotten loose and ravaged crops and such in the area. Still doesn’t make the methods used legal, though.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      Perhaps this is why liberal hack Beckel is on Fox; he’s too embarrasingly to be on a serious liberal channel like MSNBC.  However, now that Olbermann is gone, he could probably be lured over to Current.

  • HARP2

    About that CNN poll …

    First, let’s start with the topline results, as reported by CNN: Obama
    52%, Romney 43% among registered voters, 53/41 among all respondents. 
    If that’s the case, then the number of respondents in the latter case
    voting for Obama should be 538, and the number supporting Romney 416.

    However, when reading the questions on page 3 of the poll report, that’s not at all what we see:

    BASED ON 484 RESPONDENTS WHO PLAN TO VOTE FOR OBAMA — SAMPLING ERROR: +/- 4.5 PERCENTAGE PTS.

    3. (Asked of Obama voters) Is that more a vote FOR Barack Obama or more a vote AGAINST Mitt

    Romney? …
    BASED ON 476 RESPONDENTS WHO PLAN TO VOTE FOR ROMNEY — SAMPLING ERROR: +/- 4.5 PERCENTAGE PTS.

    4. (Asked of Romney voters) Is that more a vote FOR Mitt Romney or more a vote AGAINST Barack

    Obama?

    Since the combined total of the two exceeds their count of registered
    voters in the survey (910), we have to assume this refers to the
    general-population response.  That’s wildly different than the 53/41
    split that CNN reports from the poll.  In fact, it’s only a 48/47 split
    for Obama.    And given that the poll shows a slightly better result for
    Romney among registered voters, it’s not difficult to conclude that
    Romney probably led in that category before CNN’s pollster shifted the
    results around to this extent.http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/17/about-that-cnn-poll/

    • Hokma

      I rarely pay much attention to polls. Having dealt with market research you get the results you want by manipulating the sample and the questions.

      In this case, they are sampling “registered voters” which is never reliable not matter what the results. More reliable results come from “likely voters.”

      Rasmussen happens to be the most reliable based on actual results and Gallup is close.

      Anything connected to news media is fun for pundits but have built-in biases. 

      • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

         Nice to see someone discussing the criteria which skew polls. I am sick of people saying just ‘you can’t trust polls.’ If they knew more about the polling process, they would understand how potentially potent is the decision by so-called ‘news’ sources to omit from their published polls the details of their sample source. Almost makes the poll a de facto  advertisement rather than a poll!

        • Hokma

          Thank you. I left that out. They are de facto advertisements.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1429578258 Cerry H Klaver

        This is one of the first things we learned in critical thinking for political scientists classes.  It is too darn easy to skew polls into a desired result.  Also that whole think about margin of error was a factor … if I recall.  Thanks for discussing this!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hank-DeCat/100001190387982 Hank DeCat

       Plus, its a CNN poll, which right there tells you it is crap. Polls in April for a November election should all be taken with a grain of salt, but when 4 come out in the same week, 3 of which show a virtual tie and 1 has a 13 point spread that should really be a red flag. And, CNN consistently does that if you look at that track record (outlier from other polls with huge point swings). I think CNN’s entire purpose is to mess with RCP’s average.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      I recently did an informal poll out here among registered voters and it was 100 percent for Obama.  Of course, the poll was taken at the county Democratic Central Committee, but, really, what difference does that make?

    • beachnan

       Excellent digging Harp.  Thank you.  Can’t trust those at CNN, after all, they had Donna Brazille as an unbiased analyst the last go round.  What a joke.

  • Popsmoke

    Mike Allan’s book should be re-titled… Why No One Wants To Vote….. Like I said before, no matter Obama or Romney, we are screwed. Neither of these two are worth voting for….

  • Flop_Flipper

    I know this is going to sound silly and sentimental. But this morning I woke up VERY early thinking about Robin Gibbs of Bee Gees fame.  His time on this earth is closing and I remembered fondly how much I enjoyed the Bee Gees before they did the whole disco thing. They had such beautiful voices and their harmonies were unmistakable.

    So to honor a man that brought me so much joy when I was still but a child I present a video of beautiful Robin singing a very beautiful song that brings back so many good memories.

    Thank you Robin. I miss you already.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeHZ5rJfnh4

    • HARP2

       Flop….Nothing silly about it. We must cling to things that remind us of good times, otherwise we are nothing more than robots, stumbling through life with no goals or meaning……….Oh sorry…..that`s liberals.

  • Roger Elder

    “The One” can’t stand Romney getting any attention. When Palin got attention it sucked the life from “The One”… because he only exists apparently in the media… at least the part of him that doesn’t sit around and watch ESPN when he isn’t staged or reading from the teleprompter somewhere. So the “pack your bags” comment will provoke Axelrod to begin the Romney attacks. If Axelrod is attacking Romney… and if Biden is attacking Romney and if the succubus from Florida is attacking Romney then Romney is doing good. Romney is finally doing good. It feels good to see him act like a red blooded American. We haven’t seen any of that anywhere near the White House for nearly four years now.

  • elizabethrc

    It would be a simple matter for Romney to stand up two boards, side by side and have written on one side what the public knows about Romney and on the other, what is known about Obama.

    I don’t think he’d need to do anything more. 

  • parchellan

    I believe that Beach and Hoosier hit the nail right on the head: by going after Romeny’s “secrets”, Obama and his crew are opening themselves up to Pandara’s box of inquiries which can only harm the Won.  Further, by going after Romney as rich — yes he is, so what ?  Romney’s “secrets”, the GOP’s purported hatred of women, the Obama campaign is saying one thing — loud and clear  We have goverened (I would say misgoverned) the country for 3 and 12 years,  and all we have to say for ourselves is, “the other candidate is rich, Mormon, and evil.”  Pathetic.

       In re Romney’s Mormonism, which I am sure team Obama will go after relentlessly,  all the Romney campaign has to do is, for every attack on Mormonism, run tapes of the Reverend fulminating about “America’s chickens coming home to roost”:  POINT, SET, AND MATCH.

                                                                  Parchellan

    Afternote:  The MSM, more slanted than any time in recent history, has  done Romney a great favor — albeit unknowingly.  By going after Santorum et. al. as dangerous radicals, as opposed to the moderate Romney, it will be very difficult for them to now say Romney is  a  radical  right-winger.   Of course, they will say it; but, in my opinion, to little effect.

     

    • Steve_in_KC

      One big problem with bringing up the un-Rev. Wright… Obama threw him under the bus, disavowed him.  So if Team Romney brings up the Wright connection, will Team Obama then challenge Romney to disavow his religious background?  I don’t think anyone but Obama benefits from dueling religions. 

      Tie scores go to the incumbent.

      • FLDemFem

         Obama can’t disavow Wright. He is on YouTube listening to Wright’s “riding dirty” sermon about the Clintons. He is shown in the last few frames, in his shirtsleeves, laughing. His wife and two daughters are there too. So much for the “I was never there for those sermons” excuse.

        • Flop_Flipper

          I agree with you and would have no problem if folks with NO connections to his campaign reminded the country of just who this pretender is. Romney won’t go there and his campaign surrogates, if they have any sense, won’t either. Obama has spent his whole career dividing people. We need a leader that unites. When citizens see that difference in action Obama gets retired.

      • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

         Except that, it’s like disavowing Rezko, that is, saying he hardly knew him. Then, when more info came out, it was, ‘well, I did about 5 hours’ worth of work for him at the law firm.’ Then, ‘He did a walk-through of the house I wanted to purchase, because he knows a lot about real estate.’ I said at that time, if Obama could not produce a bill for Rezko’s appraisal services then,  they are friends. And that was before Mr. and Mrs. Obama visited the Rezko’s at their vacation home.

        The truth does not become the truth just because Obama would rather it was swept under the rug.

        That said, I agree with your take on bringing up a candidate’s religion.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1429578258 Cerry H Klaver

          But let’s not forget that Rezko was also a primary benefit of one of Obama’s known pet projects as IL senator — the privatization of public housing.  And remember that thousands of residents (i.e., Obama’s constituents) complained to Obama’s office, Obama gave no response or acted upon their complaints.

    • Flop_Flipper

      I think that Romney is too principled as an individual to play this type of gutter politics. That isn’t to say that if he is backed into an uncomfortable corner he won’t lash out. We’ve already seen how he demolished Santorum during the last debate. But I do believe he will stay above the fray and remind the country of our real problems and offer solutions ordinary people without pre-programmed  biases will understand and embrace.

      • KenoshaMarge

        He can/will stay above the fray the same way Obama does. Allow surrogates to do the dirty work. It isn’t pretty and I wish it wasn’t necessary but until the time that attacks ads no longer work we’re stuck with them. Trying to stay above the fray while the other guy/gal has no standard to limit is a good way to lose.

  • KenoshaMarge

    Obama never was and still isn’t all the great a campaigner or a speaker. What he had then and has now is a cheer-leading section in the MSM that is willing to prostitute themselves and their credibility in order to help him.

    His “accomplishments” remain meagre, his skills mediocre and his honesty non-existent.

    If the media didn’t hide his faults and praise his talents he’d still be sitting in the Senate. Where he didn’t have much to brag about either.

    He took  a polarized and divided country and with his perpetual race-baiting made it worse.

    With Obama at the helm things have changed. For the worse. More debt, more divide, more hyperbole, more bullshit.

    • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

      .Ditto.

  • Propertius

    You know, I don’t really find Obama’s campaigners to be particularly “talented”. I think that was the 2nd greatest myth of the 2008 campaign (right after Mr. Hope ‘n’ Change himself). They were certainly vicious and unscrupulous – but I didn’t see any particular “talent”.

    Let’s face it – the Democrats probably could’ve won 2008 if they’d nominated a Golden Retriever to lead the ticket. Why they decided to actually do so is beyond me ;-) .

    If anything, I think things will be even dirtier this time around. There’s more money in play, so there will be more astroturfing, more weird personal attacks – with the added spectacles of appeals to religious bigotry against Romney. It’s gonna be a nasty, unpleasant, and thoroughly uninformative campaign. I expect to be inundated with “Big Love” jokes. Some of these will be targeted at keeping the evangelical voting bloc at home. Others will doubtless be intended to lure blue-collar Catholic voters in the Rust Belt back to the Democrats. None of this, of course, will be traceable back to Obama or the DNC. It’ll all be astroturfed through YouTybe videos and “conservative” blogs that don’t exist yet but will start appearing “spontaneously”.

    Neither candidate will be specific about policy.

    Obama won’t because he can’t defend his record on policy. He’s almost done with his first term and he still really doesn’t have any sort of coherent message. We’ll have “teachable moments” until we’re all ready to throw up. Somehow, Obama will paint himself as some sort of civil liberties savior – in spite of the NDAA and the unlimited drone attacks. He’ll also pat himself on the back for bothering to come in from the golf course to watch bin Laden get iced on closed circuit TV.

    Romney won’t because he can’t risk disunity in a very polarized Republican party. Even if he has good ideas, he has to be very careful. He’s treading a very thin line between being perceived as a RINO by the party faithful and a wingnut by independents. If he comes down too firmly on either side, he risks losing.

    Obama is by far the better mudslinger, but Romney can play on the general dissatisfaction of the populace with four years of doubletalk and incompetence.

    I’m not looking forward to it. Not one damned bit.

    • FormerLiberal9

      “Let’s face it – the Democrats probably could’ve won 2008 if they’d nominated a Golden Retriever to lead the ticket.”

      Amen.

      • FLDemFem

         They didn’t, they nominated a black lab, friendly, engaging and dumb as a rock. He has spent his term pissing on the Constitution.

        • Propertius

           I’ve never found Obama to be either friendly or engaging. I think he’s snide, nasty, and passive-aggressive. Remember “you’re likable enough, Hillary”?

          I’ll spot you the “dumb as a rock”, though.

          • beachnan

             I am sure FLDem meant “perceived” friendly and engaging.

    • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

       Yes; just another myth. I recall doing the math, that is, calculating what one vote cost Obama versus, say, what that same vote cost Clinton. She definitely got more bang for the buck; and the software in her campaign contributions program was triggered so as to exclude foreign contributions!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1429578258 Cerry H Klaver

      Well said.  I am not looking forward to it either.  I hate anticipation.  

    • KenoshaMarge

      I didn’t find them particularly “talented” either. Nor was he. What they had was a media in their camp with a slobbering love for Obama.

      One of the sideeffects of that is that any time anyone crosses Obama he becomes snotty and petulant. He’s never had to “face” the press as others do. Therefore he’s not very good at it. Never was.

  • HELENK2
  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hank-DeCat/100001190387982 Hank DeCat

    The Romney camp already fired back at the “secrecy meme” Axlerod is pushing:

    “It’s ironic the Obama campaign would accuse anyone of not being forthcoming on the same day a top official from President Obama’s scandal-plagued GSA is hiding behind the Fifth Amendment before a committee of Congress. President Obama cannot bear to face his own record of high unemployment, tax increases and massive debt. No matter how hard President Obama tries to run from his record, Gov. Romney is going to continue talking about his plans to get the country back on the right track.””

    I say Romney’s on the right track & needs to keep this up — keep hitting Obama’s record regardless of whatever b.s. distraction he tries to throw out there.

     

    • Popsmoke

      What the hell has someone inserting their constitutional right  to protect themselves and some of the crap Romney’s has pulled. Yes, Obama ‘s record is not a good, but neither is Romney’s political record as Governor.

      When the hell are any of us going to wake up and start demanding more from the candidates who ultimately end up in the White House rather than just spin???????

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hank-DeCat/100001190387982 Hank DeCat

         It puts the focus back on the Obama administration (as POTUS he’s the head of the GSA, you do realize, right?) and his record, where it belongs instead of all the b.s. distractions Obama wants to talk about. It’s called controlling the narrative.

        • Popsmoke

          The GSA issue is bullshit pure political bullshit. We need to hold fire and see what the real facts are here….

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1429578258 Cerry H Klaver

        As soon as former Obama supporters ADMIT that Obama lied and tricked you into tossing your supposed highly-minded liberal principals under the bus to get him elected.  Its called ACKNOWLEDGEMENT to your own kool-aid slurping ways. 

        That’s what got us into this mess and continues to keep us bogged down in this mess of 2-party politics.  You must admit you made a huge mistake for us to go forward.  But you won’t, instead you justify yourself with lame excuses, so we don’t go forward.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1429578258 Cerry H Klaver

          IMO that “you” refers to “former Obama supporters”.  You personally, may or may not be one of them.  

        • Popsmoke

           Cerry, I am the last person you can say is and/or was ever an Obama supporter….

          We got us in to this mess was extremism. Both right and left extremism…

          • Hokma

            Next to the last . . . I was against him probably before you.

            And just to be correct, the extremism was  all on the left – even when Repubs had the oval office – over 70 straight years of continued growth in the federal government.

  • Dbb3

    So, you’re going to counter Obama’s attacks on Romney in 2012 with your own attacks on Obama in 2008 which worked so wonderfully well.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hank-DeCat/100001190387982 Hank DeCat

       Um, no. The counter attack is 20% real unemployment. Rampant core inflation. $4.00 a gallon gas. All of our allies angry at us. Healthcare mandate with a whopping 35% approval. Private civilians detained without charge or cause – when they’re not being murdered with surveillance drones. Solyndra after Solyndra after Solyndra after Jon Corzine/MF Global after Solydra after Solyndra. Housing market underwater. Fast and Furious. Pigford. NBPP voter discrimination. Bounties and divisive acrimony. $100 MIL/year vacation budget for the first family. Obama’s own record of secrecy, “lost” records while in the IL senate, and complete lack of disclosure on just about everything in his entire life until 2004 is just the big, fat hypocritical cherry on top.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1429578258 Cerry H Klaver

        Hank, you forgot the biggie which aside from the lobbying to pass NDAA by Obama himself, was his complete refusal of public financing of his campaign in 2008 (first time in election history) and led to the complete dismantling of any check on Super PACs giving them increased power in elections.  A loose quote from Obama was “Private $ is public $.” 

        Perhaps since this occurred directly BEFORE Dbb3 voted for Obama in 2008, she/he has forgotten.   

        • FLDemFem

           Your memory is in error. Obama said he would take public financing, as did McCain. Obama changed his mind after McCain committed to it and went for raising his own funds. He got $750 million, much of it from special interests and illegal donations. He is trying for an even billion this time around, but so far only has $250 million in the kitty.

  • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

    “Diversionary”? If my previous work exposing the President’s so-called COLB and long form birth certificate as political campaign ads didn’t ‘out’ the man as a figment of some marketer’s imagination; this latest expose should do the trick.
     
    BALLOT ENTITLEMENT LAWS should DISQUALIFY PRESIDENT OBAMA in TEXAS

    • Popsmoke

      This is why people are disenfranchised with the process. The process itself has gone from bad to worse and then we have people wasting their law degrees on stuff like this….

      I hope your a corporate or real estate lawyer and not a criminal defense or prosecutor…..

      • FLDemFem

         People aren’t disenfranchised with the process, they are disenchanted with it. Disenfranchised means that they lost the right to vote, no one did. Many are disenchanted with Obama, millions, in fact.

        • Popsmoke

          I am using the term as in “deprived of power”. Its the entire system, candidates as well. This Obama only crap is the real problem.. Its just not Obama….

      • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

        It appears that you are missing the point. Citizens should not have to be lawyers to control their electoral process. But how many lawyers did it take to subvert this process? And given that these lawyers are using their education to give us false memes like campaign ads disguised as evidence of birth; leveling the field seems to me to be a worthwhile pursuit.

        • ophelia12

          You cannot win elections based on the issues, so you have to revert to this garbage. You truly represent NoQuarter. Can’t win on issues so just try and teardown the President with your distortions of reality.

          • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

            Talk about distorted reality ^^^.

            Seriously, O12 – get some help!

        • Popsmoke

          The birther movement is a false memes… Give it a break, you only add to the confusion with crap like this. There is more than enough cannon fodder to fire at Obama than to start with the birth certificate crap again, which takes the focus away from the real issues…..

    • ophelia12

      You are a nut. Who gave you a law degree? You do  more damage to your cause with the garbage.

      • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

        sour grapes.

      • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

         Okay, I hear your personal opinion of me. Now, please, be specific: what is ‘my’ “cause”? What is “garbage”?

        • Retired_from_SPOnaj

          Isn’t it the clothes that one wears?

  • HoosierinDixie

    I hope they do go down this road. They do so at their own peril. After all this time, there are still too many unknowns about Obama. We have seen no records from his school days or time in the Illinois Senate, who his classmates were etc… If he forces the issue the press that has protected him for so long may be forced to finally look into what he himself has taken extreme measures to safeguard. The RNC also has a great new ad out that shows all those people from Solyndra, MFP, Fast and Furious and the GSA all pleading the 5th in congressional hearings. Where is the transparancy they promised in 2008? What are they hiding? Trying to paint Mitt and his campaign as secretive will be even more difficult after these ads start hitting the airwaves.
    I think they will certainly continue to try to paint Mitt and Ann as rich, out of touch people but even that message is getting harder to make when they themselves are jetting around for campaign events and vacations on the tax payer’s dime. I expect his comment today about scouting out a vacation spot for Michelle in Columbia to be the next RNC or Super Pac ad. What is Mitt hiding???? I believe they are about to find out.

    • ophelia12

      Too many unknowns? This is like comedy on here.

      We have had three years of Obama. It is pretty clear what Obama is all about.

      As for “etch a sketch” Romney who knows? He is the biggest flip flopping presidential candidate ever. Even his own GOP knows that.

      • HoosierinDixie

        Since you know everything please enlighten us. Show us the records. The only comedy here is a tragic comedy of kool-aid drinking sheep like you that are too blind to see you been duped.

        • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

          Show the records.  Show the progress.  Show the improvement.  Useful idiot demdrones don’t have that programming…because they can’t show anything.

          This election is ABO.  

          Obama vs Obama’s record  (or lack thereof).

        • NoQuarterUSA

          FYI: Ophelia12 has departed.

      • KenoshaMarge

        You are like comedy here. What’ s your point pinhead? So you don’t like the post or the comments. Golleee what a surprise.

        You aren’t even a very good troll.

      • FLDemFem

         Yes, it is pretty clear what Obama is all about, and it’s not good for the country. And as for flip-flopping, do check out the 2008 campaign for major flip flops on Obama’s part. Especially the one where he gave speeches against the FISA bill and then went to DC and voted for it. He claimed to be against the Iraq war, but voted yes on every funding bill for it. He could have voted no on principle, if he had any, since the bills would have passed anyway. Don’t talk about flip-flopping and not mention Obama. He is a great flip-flopper, does it all the time. The only difference between him and Romney’s flip flops is that Romney doesn’t deny them, he explains them. Obama says his never happened, in spite of records to the contrary.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1429578258 Cerry H Klaver

        “We have had three years of Obama. It is pretty clear what Obama is all about.”

        Yep, first EO Obama signed was to be sole authority of any and all FOIA requests regarding any records past or present about HIM.  I sense a theme here — Obama is all about HIM and HIM and HIM and HIM and his family and friends which are merely extensions of HIM !!

  • beachnan

    I may be crazy to think this, but I think this one could backfire on them.  People have been wanting more information about Obama for a very long time, and Obama has spent a lot of money keeping that information secret.    I think the Romney campaign could quickly counter with, you show me yours, and I’ll show you mine.

    • BronwynsHarbor

      Spot on!  (As long as the media report the “you show me yours” part.)

      • KenoshaMarge

        Ah, there’s the rub, expecting the media to behave in an ethical and unbiased manner. Some will, most won’t. JMO