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Obama connects more often with Ohio than with Michelle. Maybe he visits too often. That’s what I decided when I noticed the sour faces of unemployed “students” being used as unpaid eye candy for Obama’s speech at the training program for the unemployed at Ohio’s Lorain County Community College.

Unemployed men and women seem less than enthused as they listen to Obama claim credit for an Ohio job training program.

The jobless have good reason to be down about their prospects. Larry makes that clear in “Obama’s Continuing Economic Woes.” And there’s a UK analysis, “Barack Obama’s re-election bid is already in deep trouble“:

This article is printed in the UK Daily Mail:

The RealClearPolitics poll average puts President Barack Obama at 47 percent and Romney at 44.2 percent - statistically insignificant lead of 2.2 percent.

Drill down into the numbers of the latest CBS poll and there are ominous signs for Obama. Only 33 percent of Americans believe the economy is moving in the right direction. A mere 16 percent feel they are getting ahead financially. Some 38 percent think their situation will get worse if Obama is re-elected, 26 percent think it will get better.

A cursory look back at incumbent versus challenger presidential races does not give Obama much comfort.

In April 1976, President Gerald Ford was in about the same position as Obama is now. He lost the 1976 general election to Jimmy Carter by two points. In April 1980, President Jimmy Carter was leading Ronald Reagan by 38 points to 32 points with John Anderson on 22. In November 1980, Reagan won by 10 points.

In April 1992, President George H.W. Bush was on 46 percent and Bill Clinton on 26 percent. In November 1992, Clinton won by six points. In April 2004, President George W. Bush was on 50 percent and John Kerry on 44 percent. In November 2004, Bush won by two points.

We are already past the point at which it seems plausible that 2012 will be a repeat of 1996 when the incumbent (Clinton) cruised to a comfortable eight-point victory over the challenger (Bob Dole). Rather, we are probably looking at a 1992 scenario – an incumbent defeat – or a 2004 race – the incumbent (or the challenger) eking out a narrow victory.

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Read all: “Barack Obama’s re-election bid is already in deep trouble.” And check out Larry Johnson’s latest report on the economy: “.”

Those Brits sometimes have insights that our own analysts miss or don’t articulate.

Alrighty then.

It’s all yours now.

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  • Flop_Flipper

    Just had a conversation with my brother and his significant other. Both were HUGE Obama supporters back in 2008 and condemned me for jumping ship to vote Republican. Now they are singing a different tune. They know the economy is in crapper and admit Obama hasn’t helped. But the thing that turned them against him is Obamacare. I’m thinking they might not be the only ones who feel this way. Woo Hoo!

  • kisskiro
    • Flop_Flipper

      I’d sure like to see more details and to see this go viral. I do believe that McCain said NO.

  • kisskiro

    Love it!
     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEBN8wOKjMo&feature=player_embedded

    • Flop_Flipper

       Yeah, Fluffy. Too funny!

  • kisskiro

    Did you see? I swear this image is imprinted on my brain.

  • Flop_Flipper

    Potential Obama campaign slogan:

    A dog in every pot and a Volt in every garage.

    • FLDemFem

       That’s revolting!!

  • Flop_Flipper

    This video is frickin hilarious. It’s title is Dog Eater, set to the music of a Hall and Oates song with a similar name.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE3cpsdMg3Q&feature=player_embedded#!

  • HARP2

    They are begging for votes now.
     http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3jbm0XTWpnU

  • HELENK2
    • samb1

      Home run on that one HELENK2
      Have a great weekend.

    • Flop_Flipper

      An excellent video. But his defenders act as if it’s fine for Obama to be cavorting around and relaxing because they stress the image that everything is just peachy in the country so it’s ok if Obama takes it easy.

      The defense of their position is that the problem is with perception among the electorate. It isn’t Obama that is uninformed and out of touch, the problem is that we simpletons just don’t understand.

      Here is only one example of this strategy. It’s from a 4/18 Hannity show where Tamara Holder makes her completely bogus blame game elegant case.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=efz_KuTEQ7M#!

      In some respects, I could understand why an Administration would try to sugar coat the truth. If consumer confidence is challenged by uncomfortable facts then the struggling economy might take a sudden nose dive for the worse, which isn’t really good for any of us. 

      But that is not the purpose of these types of shift the blame attacks. This is not some patriotic, altruistic game plan. It is an intentional effort to protect Obama’s (and the libs) chances for reelection. And no amount smoke and mirrors, everything is peachy keen lectures can disguise that fact.

  • samb1

    Open Thread-
    Have a good weekend  NQ-
    Martini Friday, two olives please!!!!!!

    Sailing – Christopher Cross
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b11jUaQzLLs

  • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

     Cerry H Klaver, thank you for pointing me to Uppity Woman for that ABC News clip. Yep; shortly after I posted there, I got both the transcript and a link!

  • Flop_Flipper

    Fox is reporting that 3 more SS agents are going to be fired. I wonder if Obama is angry yet?

    • HARP2

       He must be angry. They are getting all the gravy while he is stuck with Queen of the buffet table.

      • Flop_Flipper

        Other sources state that the agents are retiring. But so far, that’s six out of eleven that will no longer be agents.

  • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd
    • no_longer_a_democrat

      very cool!  that’s great. No voter fraud should be tolerated, on either side.

      • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

         Thank you. But know what s*s? I worked closely with a few Texans, most notably, kjcanon, ‘under the radar.’ We even used a secret blog only accessible by password. In this way, we hoped to prevent anyone from stealing the work and, in so doing, sabotaging the project, whether well-intentioned. Once we received the answers to documents requests from the state parties, we opened up the project, which is still in progress, so as to attract the attention of as many Texans as possible before the final push. In this way, we had hoped to give them time to bone up on what we have done and to understand the underlying issues. As part of that public push; kjc posted an excerpt of the work on a less reputable blog. Know what they did? Got out an email to everyone on their subscription list AND on their FB page, using the excerpt but editing out any reference to either “kjc” or “jbjd”; instead, linking to their blog for more information. On their blog, they posted the excerpt under their byline (although they now left in references to both “kjc” and “jbjd”), as if ‘we’ were associated with that site’s work; and, adding insult to injury, posted a money link directly below! Of course, we complained and, they took it off. But how many Texans would have benefited from the information? GEESH! (Adding to the problem of reaching Texans is the fact that even FreeRepublic has banned me, ever since I wrote I found several similarities between President Obama and Representative West!)

        Thank you for letting me rant. Phew!

        • Flop_Flipper

           Great work!

        • no_longer_a_democrat

          Rant away. :-)

          I don’t know this FreeRepublic site, I think i went to read it once or twice, sometimes they went off the deep end in my opinion.

          But congratualtions on rooting out voter fraud. It should not be tolerated on either side, or dismissed on either side, although the demonrats, this new Obot breed, now thrives on it.

    • DianaLC

      Good for you!!!  I know you’ve been working so very hard on this issue.  It must be gratifying to learn that your work is getting noticed.  We will all be so grateful if your work goes viral.

  • no_longer_a_democrat

    Browyn,

    have you seen this?? I knew Meee-chelle was somehow behind this attack on Ann.  After all in 2008, Meeee-chelle wanted “to claw out Bill Clinton’s eyes” .

    http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/revealed-michelle-obama-masterminded-ann-romney-mom-smear

    • DianaLC

      This inguiring mind did want to know this.  I know it’s going to be discounted by everyone because of the source, but I’ve got to say that it rings true to me.  Mooch is just loving all her fancey vacations at our expense to want to give them up. 

      Then mention of Ann Romney’s competition in dressage is coming more often.  I read that the baby obots who were involved in the mole incident at FOX were giggling and laughing that all us right wingers were going to be digusted over Romney’s ability to pronounce “dressage” correctly and would be upset with his discussion of his and Ann’s horses.  I really don’t understand these baby libs myself.  I wonder if they know how much horses are loved out here in swing state Colorado, for instance.  Heck my older sister still competes in barrell racing so she’ll like the fact that Romney prefers quarter horses.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hank-DeCat/100001190387982 Hank DeCat

        Hey, the Enquirer got the John Edwards “love child” scandal right. I’m not dismissing it.

        As far as the horse thing goes, that will blow up in their faces just like Mommy-gate & Seamus-gate, as Obama recently signed a bill allowing slaughter of horses for FOOD. I guess that is why Obama had to eat dog as a child; horse meat was reserved for those born “with silver spoons in their mouths.”

      • FLDemFem

         I rode and taught dressage. One of the best dressage teachers in the country, one of my former instructors, lives in Colorado. Ann Romney will get lots of votes for riding dressage. It’s difficult and takes a great deal of mental and physical discipline.

    • Popsmoke

      This Ann Romney crap is truly stupid. Ann Romney is a women of means who does not know what it truly is to be down.

      Yeah the Romney financial struggles are really laughable and talk is talk, but to experience the fact that you are a single mom, who lost your job, have been struggling to pay any part of your rent and have a landlord that wants to evict you and your child making you homeless is another complete issue, which Ann Romney has no clue to what so ever….. Its all a trash-mouth football game….

  • arabella_trefoil

    The guy in the suit looks like he’s thinking “You dog eating son of a bitch.”

    • arabella_trefoil

      Guy in the black shirt at extreme right “I hope my garmies aren’t showing.”
       
      Guy in the red shirt “Shit, he really does have Frankenstein scar on his head.”

       
      Man in the baseball cap and the red shirt: “Boy, you’re putting us all to shame.” 

      • Flop_Flipper

        Your Frankenstein analysis about tore me up.

  • arabella_trefoil

    I also hope the Brits are right. A agree with Bronwyn: the British press often picks up on stuff we miss. Their analysis is always enlightening.

  • kisskiro

    OMG! This is too funny.
     http://www.creativeminorityreport.com/2012/04/if-i-had-dog.html

  • jrterrier

    look at this, abc now releases a photo of george zimmerman’s bloody skull that supports his version of events.  perhaps if ABC and all the other news outlets had done their job, they wouldn’t have riled up such racial ill will among people.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/20/trayvon-martin-case-new-p_n_1440283.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D153915

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      If his head his split, you must acquit.

      • TeakWoodKite

        So when BO says “I’m of two minds on this”…does that mean he gets off on a technicality?

    • Flop_Flipper

      Isn’t it interesting that they just happened to “find” this photograph the very day he is in court? Also, he apologized to the Martin family while in court and their response was that it was insincere and only done to gain the judges sympathy for bail.

      Here is the apology. The dude seems sincere to me.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cbRcC9AKBac

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hank-DeCat/100001190387982 Hank DeCat

        Even worse, previously Trayvon’s mom said all she wanted was an apology. Zimmerman apologizes & now she says he’s grandstanding. Don’t get me wrong, poor woman lost her kid & the entire thing is a tragedy (no less the way the MSM, specifically NBC, has handled it) but she is under some very bad influences during her time of grief.

    • Dissentispatriotic

      Look at the direction of the blood drips.  They’re running in different directions not consistent with his head being in one position and not consistent with the head being turned, twisted or banged.  Scalps bleed a lot but this isn’t a lot of blood.  It also doesn’t look like an injury consistent with his head being banged on the sidewalk.  I don’t see abrasions or skinned scalp.  Instead, it looks like a straight cut.

      • http://twitter.com/VeronicaVerona1 Veronica Verona

        As if you know…

        • Dissentispatriotic

          VV, I made no comment asserting I know anything factual about this crime.  My remarks had to do with what I observed on the photo that was posted, allegedly the back of Zimmerman’s head. 

          • Dolly Cain

            You want rude? You’ve never heard  a service member swear. I can get rude and I will not kiss your behind or  any other behind. I ignore weak, worthless, ignorant, race baiters like you. 

            Is that rude enough for you?

          • Dissentispatriotic

            Miss Cain, I have been a daily reader of this blog for at least 4 years and there has never, ever been a comment by me to indicate my feelings on race one way or the other.  Where in the world do you get race-baiter?  Tell me where. 

          • Flop_Flipper

            I think it true that none of us really know what happened.

        • PatRacimora

          Why would 4 people “like” this snide comment?  Turns out the poster DOES know a lot about this sort of thing!  I am very upset with how this individual (whose identity and profession I do know) is being treated here.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hank-DeCat/100001190387982 Hank DeCat

         Where did you get your forensic science degree, a–hole?

        • Dissentispatriotic

          Excuse me?  How rude.  I have no forensic science degree but I am a nurse and do have a few observation skills.  Are you angry because these observations are counter to what you want to believe?  I have no dog in this fight and only hope the truth is found.  Again, you’re very rude.

          • BronwynsHarbor

            DissidentPatriot, I apologize for the reactions you got.  Just wish you’d told us you’ve been around for years with another username, and that you’re an experienced nurse. And that’s only because people wouldn’t have been wary that you might be a new PPAA.

            BUT!  We all should have asked you what you meant by your remarks, and NOT assumed (ass-u-me) that you were probably an MSNBC adherent who proclaims anyone who doesn’t see the entire story as racist IS a racist.

            You’ve taught me a lesson. I didn’t reply to you last night but will now, with questions I hope you’ll answer.

          • Flop_Flipper

            To Brownwyns below:

            I think you are right. Many of us are so frustrated with the constant accusations of racism that we react badly when someone goes against the general consensus merely to present a different point of view. It’s our knee jerk reaction to Obots like PPAA and it’s ilk that have confused our perceptions.

            Hell, I went off on Hank not so long ago because of my own ignorance, being clouded by something someone else entirely said. And it wasn’t even someone that comments here. So shit happens. Let’s please not allow this aberration to drive away the good folks here. We might have differing views but we are generally on the same side. And we need everyone on hand to win this thing.

        • PatRacimora

          Hey Hank and others–Why are you jumping on this poster?  And what was in there about race?????   We are trying to be more repectful here.   (Turns out I do know who this poster is–on my toon fan list– and the knowledge base is far superior to anyone else’s here–in fact you would be embarrased if you knew what this person does for a living.

          So CHILL!!!! PLEASE!!!

          • PatRacimora

            To Dolly Cain–Shame on you!  Calling someone you do not even know horrible names?  Your comment (below–I couldn’t respond directly) is not worthy of you.

      • Flop_Flipper

        That bump on his head sure looks like it came from being banged.

      • BronwynsHarbor

        Dissentispatriotic:  If the directions are not consistent with one position, how does that disprove that his head was banged?  Couldn’t Martin have held his head so tightly that Zimmerman couldn’t move his head?

        Wouldn’t abrasions go along with his being able to move his head?  I.e., the absence of abrasions could mean that his head was held in one position.

        I’m curious — not going after you. Want to know your professional explanations.  Thanks!

        • Dissentispatriotic

          The first impression I had when I saw this photo was the relatively, seemingly, small amount of blood.  The second, almost immediate thing was the direction of the drips.  This is definitely in forensics territory, but the two bloody areas drip in different directions.  If the head were moved around, I’d think there would be some drips that flowed back and then the other way.  If the head were held steady by Martin and picked up, then banged straight back with force, I’d expect to see a different drip or splatter pattern. 

          I didn’t mean to imply in any way that I was a forensics expert and there was no intent to ‘take sides’.  I hope the truth will come out with real evidence rather than media hysteria on either side.  A family lost their son and that is tragic.  Imprisioning someone without the truth is also tragic.  Let’s hope they get it right.

          You asked if Martin had held his head tightly so that it couldn’t move, wouldn’t that account for no abrasions.  I supposed that could be the case, but if held that tightly in one position, why didn’t the drips from the cuts on both sides drip straight back?  Why the seemingly two separate areas that are bleeding?   I also think of scalp on cement as being pretty harsh, then if scraped or rubbed or banged, would seem to produce more abrasions. 

          It’s all a curiosity and I’ll be paying attention to the evidence and the experts in the trial. 

          Those of you who were so quick to scream race-baiter – are you related to the O’bots who screamed racist at me 4 years ago?  Get a grip. 

          • Flop_Flipper

            I must have missed the racist charge. I didn’t sense that in anything you wrote. And it’s fair to question the evidence. That said, I think that the whole racial implication being promoted by so many has hardened me in how sympathetic I am concerning the tragic loss of this young life.

    • BronwynsHarbor

      Did any of you watch O’Reilly tonight?  He did a good contrast of coverage on ABC versus NBC.  I often skip O’Reilly but am glad I caught that segment.

      Personally, imho it is a bit much to carry a loaded weapon on neighborhood patrol (unless one lives in Somalia or Syria Detroit, parts of Chicago … or … I don’t follow high crime areas much.

      But Zimmerman doesn’t deserve life in prison, for god’s sake. Far from it. But since the media have made this the new OJ trial, who knows if he can get a fair trial anywhere.  And that’s not because of the facts of the case — it’s because, if I were on that jury, I’d be scared to death to forced to vote on 2nd degree because I’m sure I’d vote to acquit.  I’d be afraid for my life. But that can’t color my decision.  Damn it would be difficult.

      • Flop_Flipper

         

        But that can’t color my decision.

        A curious though appropriate use of the phrase.

        • BronwynsHarbor

          Unintentional, I swear.

          • Flop_Flipper

             I believe you. Really, I do.

  • Flop_Flipper

    Lorain county has one of the higher unemployment rates in Ohio. It is currently at 8.7%, though it has improved over the past few months. In February the rate was 10.2%. Parts of Southwest Ohio also have rates near 9%. So despite statewide lower averages, many regions of the state are not doing very well.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      Pikers.  We’re doing 15% plus out here.

      • BronwynsHarbor

        Florida?

        • Retired_from_SPOnaj

          California.  We’ve got Jerry Brown as governor.  Compared to him, Obama is a bush league rookie. He brags about high unemployment.   Oops, I said the B-word!

          • Flop_Flipper

            I thought you were referring to Pike County, Ohio. Jerry Brown is certainly a piece of work. His wife too.

          • TeakWoodKite

            Wine country …grapes of wrath

          • Dolly Cain

            Jerry Brown? The Mad Monk?

      • Flop_Flipper

        Yep, have a friend that lives there. Been unemployed over a year.

        • Retired_from_SPOnaj

          Shit, we don’t count him anymore.  He’s no longer in the labor force.  Disappeared, so to speak.  A non-person.

  • Retired_from_SPOnaj

    Yep, the faces of the backgrounders say it all.  The one guy in the three piece suit with the yellow tie looks particularly impressed with The One.  I think that we need a “thought balloon” contest here.  I’ll start it out with, “What a bunch of shit!”

    • BronwynsHarbor

      Oh, what a great idea.  And  I just figured out how to make those “thought balloons” in a graphics app.  Will try it later … I didn’t figure out how to add text inside the balloon yet.  Uh.

    • TeakWoodKite

      (the guy right behind) ——
      This guy is lining up vacation spots on my tax dollars thinking that’s why I voted for him. ”

  • DianaLC

    All I can say is that I hope the Brits are correct.  I’m feeling no hope for the changes that were promised.  Four more years of promises and no action–except on the golf course–will be the ruin of us all.

    • arabella_trefoil

      I remember that article too!

    • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

       …as for sorry, well, I think we here who always knew she would make the better President are really sorry the D’s rigged the nomination. As for the rest, I believe, they only respond to the ‘writing on the wall.’ Even recent domestic ‘news’ stories which on the surface, ostensibly echo those sentiments expressed 4 years ago by the British press; always contain not-so-veiled zingers aimed directly at Madam Secretary.

      • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

         (Did that make me sound “bitter”?)

        • Flop_Flipper

          And clingy. ;-}

      • Flop_Flipper

        I read an article a few days ago, I think in the Guardian, that criticized Hillary’s dancing and drinking in Columbia. They didn’t think her actions proper for a Secretary of State.