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When will he ever grow up?

Click to read Reason.com article.

Libertarians have their very own “bible”: “Reason, is the monthly print magazine of ‘free minds and free markets’.”

Who knew it’s so damn hilarious?! The POTUS pic/toon is from Reason‘s “Wherein the New York Times Describes President Obama’s Role as Drone War Kill List Decider-in-Chief.” Ed Krayewski’s article has a lot of meat on its bones (excerpt below).

Sure, I did know already that chief editor Nick Gillespie is a scream. He and his black leather jacket often show up on Fox New’s Red Eye With Greg Gutfeld.

God I love Red Eye … here, it’s only midnight when it airs. It’s nothing like the rest of Fox News’s programming.

By the way, FNC’s line-up is better now that Ailes et al. got rid of the nut job at 5:00 p.m. ET, dumping Dreck for The Five — a bit light at times, but fun (and it’s given Red Eye‘s Greg Gutfeld the extra exposure he deserves).

This is but one section from Reason‘s “Wherein the New York Times Describes President Obama’s Role as Drone War Kill List Decider-in-Chief“:

Unfortunately, but not unsurprisingly, the Times papers over the very real “collateral damage” of U.S. drone strikes overseas:

Just days after taking office, the president got word that the first strike under his administration had killed a number of innocent Pakistanis. “The president was very sharp on the thing, and said, ‘I want to know how this happened,’ “ a top White House adviser recounted.

In response to his concern, the C.I.A. downsized its munitions for more pinpoint strikes. In addition, the president tightened standards, aides say: If the agency did not have a “near certainty” that a strike would result in zero civilian deaths, Mr. Obama wanted to decide personally whether to go ahead.

The president’s directive reinforced the need for caution, counterterrorism officials said, but did not significantly change the program. In part, that is because “the protection of innocent life was always a critical consideration,” said Michael V. Hayden, the last C.I.A. director under President George W. Bush.

As a reminder, President Obama has already ordered 5 times the drone strikes George W. Bush did in eight years in office Only after official assurances of utmost protection of innocent life and “near certainty” of no civil deaths in any planned drone strikes does this get mentioned:

Mr. Obama embraced a disputed method for counting civilian casualties that did little to box him in. It in effect counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, according to several administration officials, unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent.

Guilty until proven innocent. The CIA even has the authority to target mere likely suspects. Salon’s Glenn Greenwald noted even before that new authority the CIA was already targeting rescuers and mourners of previous targets. It’s just “simple logic.” The Times again:

Counterterrorism officials insist this approach is one of simple logic: people in an area of known terrorist activity, or found with a top Qaeda operative, are probably up to no good.

No muss, no fuss.

Another terrorist dead. A few collaterals too.

Hey. Gives us more tee times, more hoops, more ESPN, more parties to scoop up those checks.

Quite a life for a guy who lectured about the U.S. Constitution, then found it too cumbersome in practice. The Constitution is best left to the scholarly elites ensconced in Ivy League universities where the abstract and the real worlds never have to meet.

Okay, I can’t resist. Here’s another image from the article:

  • MsContrary

    It’s just another software war game to him and the other callow youth who work  for/with him.   

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  • jrterrier

    this doesn’t look good:

    Syrian Rebels Use Mosque Minarets To Order “Infidel” Christians To Leave Or Be Killed…

  • jrterrier

    romney mocking Pres Obama’s to-do list:

    http://youtu.be/dqGgR99HDJo

  • HARP2

     Al Qaeda Affiliate Leader Offers 10 Camels For The Capture Of President Obama, 20 Chickens For Sec. Clinton
    Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/terror-leaders-bounty-obama/2012/06/10/al-qaeda-affiliate-leader-offers-10-camels-capture-president-obama-20-chickens-sec-clinton#ixzz1xQzrtpaI

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  • HARP2

     On this day in 1964, Everett Dirksen (R-IL), the Republican Leader in
    the U.S. Senate, condemned the Democrats’ 57-day filibuster against the
    1964 Civil Rights Act. Leading the Democrats in their opposition to
    civil rights for African-Americans was Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV). Byrd,
    who got into politics as a recruiter for the Ku Klux Klan, spoke
    against the bill for fourteen straight hours. Democrats still call
    Robert Byrd “the conscience of the Senate.”
    In his speech, Senator Dirksen called on the Democrats to end their filibuster and accept racial equality.

  • TeakWoodKite
    • HELENK2

       I’m with him

  • twobits2

    I’m a big Red-Eye fan, too. Because of my schedule, though, even if it’s only on at midnight here in CA, I tend to only watch on Saturday night when it airs at 11PM.

    Never have I gotten more laughs at the news than with Greg and company. Penn Gillette was hilarious (not sure when the actual show aired) with his instructions to Bill about how to be a good ventriloquist.

    As far as the drone strikes, well, it’s easier to kill when you don’t see what you are killing. As with most things Obama, he acts in a way that allows him to remain detached and cold.

    Still not sure why he wins all these popularity polls – the guy is an ice cube. Guess that’s it – distant and aloof are incredibly appealing, as most high school girls are aware.

  • TeakWoodKite

    In 07-08, many people, including myself spent countless hours looking for information on BO, including pictures. I had a vitual ton of all the pictures of BO’s early years but not the “roof hit” collection.
    I am wondering does anyone know the original origin of the pothead in Chief’s photo’s? Choom Gang? They certianly were not available back then.
    Just curious why they are viral now and not then.

    • DianaLC

      Don’t know the answer—but my best guess is somone was holding onto them for the right price.

      • TeakWoodKite

        It maybe that certian other materials and photo’s that were “sat on” are to appear without a clear attribution.

        It’s odd.

  • HELENK2

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/06/10/Oh-No-You-Didnt-Mossad-Agents-Claim-Obama-Lying-About-Stuxnet

    mossad agents claim Obama lying about stuxnet

    hey backtrack
    when you diss allies, remember they know enough about you to diss back

  • jrterrier

    The firm that was awarded the Obama administration’s largest federal solar energy grant has close ties to Vice President Joe Biden and won the grant only after a coordinated lobbying campaign, the Wall Street Journal reports.

    BrightSource Energy Inc. hired Biden’s former chief of staff to lobby the administration in an effort to win a $1.6 billion loan.
    The lobbying blitz came as the $1.6 billion loan to BrightSource Energy Inc.—a centerpiece of the administration’s program to promote nascent green-energy projects—faced a do-or-die moment, and the company called on its Democratic connections to help push the deal forward, according to emails, records and those familiar with the loan.White House spokesman Eric Schultz said the Department of Energy made the loan-approval decision, not Mr. Biden nor other White House officials. A Department of Energy spokeswoman said it chose BrightSource, whose solar power plant in California continues to move ahead, based on the project’s merits.http://freebeacon.com/bidens-solar-power-pals/

  • jrterrier

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/06/09/obama-mega-donor-and-patriotic-millionaire-makes-huge-profit-by-shorting-obama-funded-solar-company/

    Ultra-wealthy Obama supporter Whitney Tilson had a rough month. His T2 Partners hedge fund, which manages more than $260 million, posted a 13.6 percent loss in May, underperforming the major indexes.

    “Our fund fell 13.6% in May vs. -6.0% for the S&P 500, -5.9% for the Dow and -7.1% for the Nasdaq,” Tilson wrote a letter to investors. “It was an ugly month — our second-worst ever.”

    One of the few “winners” in Tilson’s portfolio was his short position in First Solar, a company on the brink of collapse despite receiving more than $3 billion in federal loan guarantees from the Obama administration.

  • HELENK2

    OT

    this is the first time that I have ever read that the US forces did not cause this.
    the famous picture of the little girl in Viet Nam that was burned by napalm

    http://pjmedia.com/blog/forty-years-later-kim-phuc-and-her-north-vietnamese-enemies/?singlepage=true

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jo-Freespirit/100000801917982 Jo Freespirit

    The presidency is just too big a job for Obama, as we all know.  His narcissism lends itself to campaigning, raising funds, and such.  But when you give a narcissistic sophomore the power that comes with running this country, you place not only Americans, but a lot of other folks  at risk.   Those who helped put this shallow, self-serving individual into the white house have created one hell of a mess for all of us.  And, the history books will tell the tale.

  • FormerLiberal9

    I have to disagree with the common opinion being expressed here so far. In that I agree with what Obama has done in his drone campaign so far. It has decimated the leadership of the terrorist organization that wantonly has killed thousands of innocents around the world. Granted some innocents may have been killed in the process but I wonder how many of those innocents knowingly were harboring a known terrorist(s) in their midst. The children however are a different matter all together and I grieve for the death of those who are truly innocent.

    I can understand the feelings of those who feel differently than I so on this matter and its a topic that I have mulled over on many occasions. But in the end it is like what my Doctor told me about prescribing medicine, ” All medicines have side effects you have to weigh if the benefit outweighs the bad effects the drug may produce.  Unfortunately there is no clear cut black and white answers in this matter.

    In the end I support Obama on this matter and firmly believe it shouldn’t be a political matter.

    • elizabethrc

      Perhaps it’s not so much about his actually ordering the killing, but more about his obsession with having the power at his command.  There is something quite sick about his need to have more and more power and that sickness will, if not checked by the voters,  lead this country down a path which destroy democracy.
      I think this is what Obama very much has in mind.  He thinks he is fooling us, but his history of associating with and abetting people and groups which seek to subvert what this country stands for is finally coming out. 

    • stodghie

      formerliberal9 i am all for getting rid of the bad guys too. however i want limits on obama and safeguards as well. he is now flying more and more drones all over our country. that should give us all pause for concern. 

  • DianaLC

    On this one I am left with little to say except that it hurts my heart to read that our country has come to this.  We seem to have stepped over the line and the next step will indeed be drone attacks in the U.S.  Who is there to stop it when one can just rationalize away the truth about killing?

    I recently found and purchased a bracelet like those that young girls often wore when we were still attending Sunday school and going to Saturday school before being confirmed.  It’s a charm bracelet with each of the Ten Commandments.  To refresh memories, the sixth is the one about not killing.  It follows four that have to do with making sure God is first in our hearts and then the fifth about honorin “fathers and mothers.”  Makes sense to me that O would take so quickly to killing as he does have a god “before” God–himself–and he does not seem to honor not only his own parents very much but also the “fathers and mothers” of our country.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W6RLFUOLWP23SJ5RQHENEPHKME David L

    Hey, Valerie, do I have to go to the bathroom, I can’t decide ??

  • KenoshaMarge

    Drone attacks, except in very special situations have never sat well with me. The “oops” we killed some innocent women and kids apologies even less.

    But the thought of someone relishing killing people from afar with the very real possibility that innocents will die is repulsive.

    I know my feelings are probably naive. I know that few share them. But that’s how I feel and I refuse to pretend that I find murder acceptable.

     I never did “like” us as a nation, as a people, being assassins. I knew it was sometimes necessary but I still didn’t like it. Still don’t. Never will.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jo-Freespirit/100000801917982 Jo Freespirit

       i get what you’re saying, Marge.  Taking a human life – even when necessary is tragic.  Your post made me think of the anguish Abraham Lincoln was said to experience over the deaths of Civil War soldiers – from both sides.

      • KenoshaMarge

        I can understand that taking a life, I am not talking about a battle field here, is necessary. Celebrating a death is, IMO, for barbarians.

    • BronwynsHarbor

      Marge, thank god you wrote that.  You’ve said what I was feeling but couldn’t articulate.  

      Lawrence Wright’s Pulitzer winner, The Looming Tower, describes an agonizing decision-making process re killing bin Laden back in 1998 — in such detail that Wright had to have interviewed one of the very few members of President Clinton’s inner circle.

      This was 3+ years before 9/11.  Circa 1998, only a few Americans (like Larry) knew Osama bin Laden’s name, let alone the name Al Qaeda, let alone bin Laden’s horrific agenda.

      But Bill Clinton knew all about bin Laden and Al Qaeda — only because, his flaws aside, Clinton worked his ASS off, day and night, sleeping 3-4 hrs per night — and he voraciously read and analyzed every piece of info made available to him.  PLUS he knew how to ask the right questions and which U.S. intel experts to quiz.

      So circa 1998, knowing all that he knew — and given the best intelligence he’d seen to date, even though it was inadequate —  that they could obliterate bin Laden with a single bomb dropped from a plane.

      What gave POTUS Clinton pause? Besides the uncertainty of the intel? Collateral damage. Clinton knew that for sure — that a large number of innocent bystanders in the crowded location would inevitably die along with bin Laden, if he was truly there, which no one knew for sure.  Clinton also knew that, politically, it would be transformative and might shut the Republicans up for a second or two. But he passed — only after a LONG debate. Clinton infuriated many intel experts.

      Would POTUS Clinton have prevented 9/11? I doubt it since 9/11 had been in play already. But who knows for sure.

      • KenoshaMarge

        Perhaps Clinton could have prevented 9/11 by killing Bin Laden back then. Unless he was physic he couldn’t have known that. At the time, he did the decent thing. I’m sure he later regretted that he didn’t “pull the trigger.” Hindsight has perfect vision.

        Can you imagine the attacks on him at the time for killing innocent civilians? Without Bin Laden being known as the mastermind of 9/11 he was not the monster, in the public/world’s mind that he became.

        I blame the Bush Administration for putting terrorists faces on playing cards and making a “game” out of killing. To me that’s just wrong.

    • Wisewoman2

      My exact sentiments.  These strikes inherently and with foresight kill innocents.  The likehood catching a known ”terroist’ alone or in a situation where he is  let’s say 100 yards of anothr person is nearly nil.  Therefore we know we are taking innocent lives and I don’t like it nor will  I  justify it.  Many people (not I) voted for this flim flam man who was surperb at reading a teleprompter and nothing else.

  • Popsmoke

    History has a way of repeating itself…..

  • Popsmoke

    Partisan Polarization Surges in Bush, Obama Years
    Trends in American Values: 1987-2012
    http://www.people-press.org/2012/06/04/partisan-polarization-surges-in-bush-obama-years/#swingvoters

  • Popsmoke

     Lets be equal opportunity critics here….. You know me I like to share the finger pointing…. http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2012_cr/sasc-uas.html

    We are one step away from totalitarianism ….

    • BuzzLatte2

      especially if we keep following Treyvon’s “pretend dad.”  See photo above.

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