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Egypt, Rasmussen Shockers + Sunday Open Thread

BREAKING NEWS: Larry Johnson is writing a post on the momentous events in Egypt. I can’t wait to see what Larry has to say. In the meantime, here are some fascinating results of Rasmussen Reports’ latest polls:

First: Rasmussen’s Daily Presidential Tracking Poll: Romney 48%, Obama 43% , June 24, 2012: 41% are certain they will vote for Romney and 7% are likely but could still change their minds. Obama’s numbers are 35% certain and 8% likely.

Second: Consumer Confidence Falls to Lowest Level Since January: “The Rasmussen Consumer Index, which measures consumer confidence on a daily basis, dropped two more points on Sunday to 80.2. The Consumer Index is down five points from a week ago, down ten points from a month ago, and down 11 points from three months ago.”

Third (and fascinating): 22% Believe Government Has Consent of GovernedFrom Rasmussen’s article:

Democrats are happier with the status quo than Republicans and voters not affiliated with either of the major parties when it comes to the current Congress and the federal government.

One of the central tenets of the Declaration of Independence is that governments derive “their just powers from the consent of the governed.” Only 22% of the nation’s likely voters believe the government today has such consent.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds a wide partisan gap on the question. Democrats are evenly divided as to whether or not the government has the consent needed for legitimacy. Only eight percent (8%) Republicans and 21% of unaffiliated voters believe it does. …

(Read all of 22% Believe Government Has Consent of Governed.”)

Fourth: “32% Think 100,000 Cut in Federal Workforce Would Help Economy“: Interesting that most Americans don’t want to cut federal government jobs.

  • Earl Stick
  • Earl Stick

    Is there something wrong with the blog? I tried posting something and it just hung there. This is a test.

    • Earl Stick

      I guess it’s OK since that comment took. The first one didn’t.

  • lola828

    Polls, polls… mean relatively little at this point, especially the bias Rasmussen polls, but since you are quoting a poll I will also quote one.

    Here is the latest Bloomberg Poll:

    “Obama leads Romney 53 percent to 40 percent among likely voters, even as the public gives him low marks on handling the economy and the deficit, and six in 10 say the nation is headed down the wrong track, according to the poll conducted June 15- 18.

    The survey shows Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, has yet to repair the damage done to his image during the Republican primary. Thirty-nine percent of Americans view him favorably, about the same as when he announced his presidential candidacy last June, while 48 percent see him unfavorably — a 17-percentage point jump during a nomination fight dominated by attacks ads. A majority of likely voters, 55 percent, view him as more out of touch with average Americans compared with 36 percent who say the president is more out of touch. ”

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-20/obama-leads-in-poll-as-voters-view-romney-as-out-of-touch.html

    • HARP2

      You left this part out from your fantasy poll.

      More troubling for Obama’s re-election bid, just 31 percent
      say the nation is headed in the right direction compared with 62
      percent who say it’s on the wrong track.

      On the economy, just 43 percent approve of Obama’s
      performance, compared with 53 who disapprove. He fares even more
      poorly on the budget deficit, where 60 percent disapprove of the
      job he’s doing compared with 32 percent who approve.

      • lola828

        However, many do not blame Obama for the country going in the wrong direction. The majority still blame, as they should, Bush for our economic troubles and the GOP in Congress also get some of the blame.

        Romney does no better and even worse in many things.

  • foxyladi14

    This is depressing .

  • HELENK2
  • HELENK2
  • Hokma

    Regarding Egypt – the Muslim Brotherhood Presidency is no surprise. But the implications are unclear.
    The military is still firmly in control. What has to be determined is exactly how much power they retain or cede to the new President. Will the radical elements in the military start Egypt’s version of the Revolutionary Guard and cement Egypt as an Islamic state?
    I know to Egyptians and both have been getting their remaining families out of there and resituated. This does not bode well for Egyptians who thought they were getting freedom.

  • HELENK2

    Egyptian President-Elect Mohammed Morsi thanks ‘martyrs’ who led the revolution that helped oust Mubarak – @cnnbrk

  • Popsmoke

    Well its now going to start get interesting…. The Egyptian military which has its extremist component has had to come to some form of a deal. The question will be who is really controlling the puppet strings????

    This is the crap that really hurt Obama. But the jackasses on the republican side are no better….

    • HELENK2

      see the link that I posted below from carolineglick

  • lola828

    Got to love those Rasmussen results. Why does Rasmussen consisently favor Republican more than all other polling companies?
    I can already predict what Larry Johnson is going to write about Egypt.
    It will go something like this:
    > it is all Obama’s fault for whatever Larry Johnson disagrees with in Egypt
    > the Muslim Brotherhood is bad
    > we should have kept Mubarak in power therefore moving toward democracy was bad
    > we have to be very concerned and fear-monger about Israel’s security
    It will be a typical ignorant American centric old school CIA article/viewpoint that does not reflect reality. It will be coming from a guy who has no real first hand knowlege of what he writes.

    • HARP2

      Our capital shall not be Cairo, Mecca, or Medina. It shall be Jerusalem,
      Allah willing. Our cry shall be: “Millions of martyrs march toward
      Jerusalem.” Millions of martyrs march toward Jerusalem.”

      Are you REALLY that much of an idiot ?

      • scottymac54

        Uh, as stated above, that wasn’t Egypt’s new president, but some passing cleric, from a clip recycled from last month….
        Idiot is, as idiot does.

        • HARP2

          Well if anyone would know about idiots, it would be you.

          That passing cleric was at a rally for Morsi.

          • scottymac54

            But your comment inferred the statement was from Morsi himself, as another commenter’s did, earlier.
            In either case, no mention was made that a Muslim cleric uttered those inflammatory words, much less over a month ago.
            That’s misleading, so much so, that even that website, that are such experts on Egypt on Middle East affairs, originally attempted to demonize a newly installed foreign government WE helped to bring in, had no choice but to issue a fine-print disavowal of the original conclusion.
            Of course, you uncharacteristically omitted the link to that statement, unlike the prior poster.
            I know, I know, us pesky trolls and our facts, LOL!

            • lola828

              Facts don’t matter to NQbots. Only distortions, out of context quotes and just straight-out lies… this is the FOX News crowd after all.

              • Earl Stick

                I never watch Fox News or listen to Rush Limbaugh, and I’m sure that goes for many here. Only a fool would assume that because someone is critical of Obama they are a hard right extremist, a Fox News fan, or a Limbaugh ditto-head. Plenty of Dems and ex-Dem Indies are hoping Obama loses the election, and these are folks who don’t give a damn about Fox News one way or the other.

                • Flop_Flipper

                  Right on brother!

                • scottymac54

                  True, and that goes for most here, but the extremist fringe is represented as well.
                  There’s no reason not to feel free to point out their excesses.

              • shelldoll2

                Ya know you fascinate me. I wonder why your therapist did such a piss poor job.

                • HARP2

                  I must have missed you at the Improv, but thanks for sharing with us here in sanity land.

                  • HARP2

                    shelldoll2 Sorry….meant for LALA

            • HARP2

              CAIRO — At a campaign rally for the Muslim
              Brotherhood’s candidate for president, a hardline cleric and TV preacher
              sang Mohammed Morsi’s praises before thousands massed in the stadium of
              an industrial city in Egypt’s Nile Delta.

              “We are seeing the dream of the Islamic Caliphate
              coming true at the hands of Mohammed Morsi,” the cleric, Safwat Hegazy,
              blared from his podium.

              “The capital of the Caliphate and the United Arab
              States is Jerusalem, God [Allah] willing,” he added, as thousands
              cheered and waved the Brotherhood’s green flag, chanting, “The people
              want to implement God’s law.”

              http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/insideisrael/2012/May/Egypts-Muslim-Brotherhood-Calls-for-Islamic-Rule/

              The man is a LOON as time will show.

              • scottymac54

                Well, he’s not the president, so he’s not calling the shots, is he?
                I don’t fly into panicked hysterics at the very mention of the words “Muslim Brotherhood”, because I understand they are not particularly radical or extremist, and I’m not in the business of hating Muslims on principle.
                Do you stay up nights worrying about what the Freemasons are doing, the next town over?
                Why not help us fix up our own backyard?

                • HARP2

                  Do you really think Moris can work independently from these radicals. If you do then you are even more naive than I thought.

                  • scottymac54

                    They might, and they might not, and I’ll give you a hint…..they already HAVE BEEN (google Burns, Brotherhood, Egypt, CIA, etc.)
                    We have been continually fucking up in Egypt, and fucking THEM up, since 1952.
                    When Barky stops speechifying and inciting issues (and the traitorous right wing in this country follows suit), you’d be surprised as to how well it will all work out for us in a few years, and it so happens his staying out of the fray is 100% spot on (if only Syria and Yemen could be handled similarly).
                    Your “side” can hardly claim Israel as an excuse this time….they have the situation totally in hand, there is real cooperation between all necessary parties for the first time since Gerald Ford…
                    Maybe next year, some conflagration involving sand, swarthy foreigners, burkas and beheadings, will pop up and your chickenhawking skills will be called for.
                    If instability rears its ugly head, the Gulf States will step in with their own brand of “nation-building”…..who knows? Maybe we’ll be able to rebuild our own “homeland”, because, in case you haven’t noticed, this place is a MESS.

  • Flop_Flipper

    I’m definitely looking forward to Larry’s take on Egypt. I think everything depends upon how the military responds to the election. I do not expect the pro-Mubarak folks to go away quietly. Either.

  • HELENK2

    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/234409-house-gop-senate-dems-cant-agree-on-violence-against-women-act

    congress can not agree on violence against women act

    TELL CONGRESS TO GET OFF THEIR ASSES AND GET SOMETHING DONE ABOUT THIS

    • HELENK2

      remind them this in not a muslim country. violence against women is NOT acceptable

  • HELENK2

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/06/muslim-brotherhood-candidate-elected-president-of-egypt/

    more on election and warning about the accuracy of a you tube video many are embedding

  • HELENK2

    off topic
    this just sickened me. kids need to be taught respect
    teens desecrate 9-11 memorial

    http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/teens-desecrate-9-11-memorial.html

  • HELENK2

    Iowa Hawk
    David Burge
    ‏@iowahawkblog

    Remind me again why one damn cent of my taxes goes to Egypt.

  • HELENK2

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/06/24/egypts-secular-parties-condemn-obama-admin-for-supporting-muslim-brotherhood-candidate/

    secular parties condemn backtrack administration for supporting the muslim brotherhood candidate

  • HELENK2

    food for thought the would-be DC suicide bomber would have included in backtrack’s EO on immigration

    http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2012/06/excellent-news-would-be-dc-suicide.html

  • Anthony_1

    OT (sorry)-
    Bronwyn’s – Have you found out how we can upload pics yet? My photoshop dalliances are getting restless…..

  • HELENK2

    http://www.carolineglick.com/e/2012/06/the-muslim-brotherhood.php

    a good article on just how the brotherhood got control. very insightful

  • DianaLC

    Bronwyn,
    OT ….. I’ve been stuck non-stop on one floor of my house caring for a dog that just cost my partner and me to spend $3,000 +, The dog isnow past the stage where I worry for his life, except that now I might kill him because he’s back to his old obnoxious and bull-headed self. He will need to be restrained for a time to fully heal, though he’s never heeled in his life. (little joke there) It was supposed to be a small $400 procedure that ended up in an overnight stay at an emergency facility close to home and then a trip to the closest animal hospital 30 minutes away. He was there two days. But the rest of the time I’ve been the full-time care giver, wrangler, blanket washer, etc. No real sleep occurred. We all, including his sister who had to be there during the whole ordeal, lost a few pounds in the process.
    But…since I was home all that time, I took all the calls…..
    I got one from our local Democratic precinct captain, whom I had met and worked with during Hillary’s campaign. He had fallen into the fold and drunk some of the less narcotic Kool-Aid and was wondering if I would help him work the upcoming election, etc.
    I asked him if he had checked the registration rolls lately, as I was now “unaffiliated.” I told him that I hadn’t voted for Obama and would not in the future. He did listen to some of my concerns. My take was that he was pretty dispirited trying to get any interest in this campaign of Obama’s, at least in my precinct.
    There’s my anecdotal evidence to support your poll information. It makes me happy that not so many people living around me are really stupid.

    • HELENK2

      glad your dog is better. They are like your kids, you love them and they give you grey hair

      • DianaLC

        Yes, he’s the perpetual pre-teen, obnoxious boy in my house. Since I had two sons, I guess I have grown to love that behavior.

        • buzzlatte3

          Hope your dog is back being a bad boy soon!

    • Anthony_1

      Sorry about the dog, etc. Do you think the Dem precinct captain heard about this and was hoping you would donate him to feed the POTUS??? (another little joke, but maybe not…)

      I think more and more people will begin to realize that those living around us are not as stupid as the MSM wants us to believe they are.

      Even here on Manhattan’s Upper West SIde (where the entire world thinks we run around in Obama T-shirts shouting “Hope!” and “Change!” all day long), there is evidence that MOST neighborhood residents just quietly agree that this Administration has been a big-ass FAIL, and are voting Romney in November. We’re fully aware that it isn’t enough to pull New York out of the deep blue, but I think you’re going to see New York Democratic margins substantially reduced from previous elections.

      • buzzlatte3

        Just got an email from the DNC wondering where my contribution was. It fell just short of a scolding and a reminder to get in line for teh One. Then it asked for $5.00. The scary part was my participant number, etc. I shall be raging AGAINST the democratic machine, thanks. Tomorrow, I’ll find out how to register as an independent.

        • no_longer_a_democrat

          I would send the copy of any future repub/nonDNC donations to the DNC. I did, using their prepaid envelops. they stopped sending me anymore crap.

          • Anthony_1

            Excellent! I’ve also done that, and encouraged everyone I know who feels similarly to do the same. It spread like wildfire. Great minds thinking alike, I suppose….

            • no_longer_a_democrat

              Anothony_1… LOL, not only did I use their envelop stuffed with a receipt of a donation I made to Romney. I stuff it with 40 pages of the Obamacare bill… oh yes I did, I printed it out and stuffed it along with the romney donation receipt.
              And the DNC has to pay for it, since its a pre-paid envelop.
              I’m so sad now, the DNC no longer sends me any more crap :-( I had so many other papers I wanted to send, a copy of the consitution, the rest of the obamacare bill..

            • no_longer_a_democrat

              Anothony_1… LOL, not only did I use their envelop stuffed with a
              receipt of a donation I made to Romney. I stuff it with 50 pages of the
              Obamacare bill… oh yes I did, I printed it out and stuffed it along
              with the romney donation receipt.
              And the DNC has to pay for it, since its a pre-paid envelop.
              I’m so sad now, the DNC no longer sends me any more crap :-( LOL
              I had so
              many other papers I wanted to send, a copy of the Constitution, the rest
              of the obamacare bill……..

          • BronwynsHarbor

            Dear No Longer … You and Anthony! You two are peas in a pod … it’s a good thing you two aren’t together in middle school. No telling what mischief you two would be indulging in.

        • Anthony_1

          I’ve always been registered as an Independent, but also get mail from the DNC along with my bogus participant number. no_longer_a_democrat has used the same tactics I did to make them stop.

          Simply mail a clam of your donation to Romney to them in their envelope and they’ll get the message

          • Flop_Flipper

            So mailing them a clam gets them to shut their clam?

            • Anthony_1

              Yup.

          • shelldoll2

            You, like my sister, were ahead of the curve. My sister became an Independent in the mid 80′s.

          • BronwynsHarbor

            Oh Anthony. That is just plain naughty of you.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jo-Freespirit/100000801917982 Jo Freespirit

          I got those contribution request letters for a while, and had the best time using their stamped self-addressed envelope to send a hot note detailing the reasons I would never again contribute money to the New Democratic Party (as Brazillenut dubbed it). I’m sure none of the letters were read, but writing them was very therapeutic. Plus, I loved the thought of using their dime to send them not a single one. lol

        • elizabethrc

          Send a reply email telling them that it’s in the same place that Obama’s transparency ended up.

    • no_longer_a_democrat

      sorry to hear about your dog, hope he gets better soon.

      So, the dems from 2008 who voted for the fraud seem still drunk on the koolaid, pretty pathetic to hear that.

      • DianaLC

        Knowing this guy from the 2008 primary, I believe he just wants to seem to be somone–wow! now a precinct captain working for Obama after O brutalized Hillary, whom he supposedly supported before.

    • nickoury

      I wish your dog and you all the best for a full recovery,

      • DianaLC

        Thank you!

        • shelldoll2

          Virtual petting to the doggy!

    • BronwynsHarbor

      DIANA: That dog must have something he could use against you. There’s no other reason he could possibly deserve such devotion from you.

      Your conversation with the precinct captain reminds me of the time that NARAL called me. I lectured that woman! They dance to a one-note tune. And they support candidates, Republican or Democrat, solely on an arbitrary score that NARAL gives them.

      In actuality, every issue is complicated … my own view on “choice” and “abortion” is complicated. I used to be 100% pro-choice, and rigidly so. Then I had a baby and, during my pregnancy, I had that book by a European (or Swedish/Norwegian ???) photographer that was, I recall, the first publication to show what fetuses look like at every stage of a pregnancy. When I hit 5 months pregnant, I’d open the book and see what my baby looked like at 5 months into my pregnancy.

      That experience shattered all of my assumptions. And I couldn’t imagine aborting my baby — even though my OWN MOTHER wanted me to. (I was 34 years old and single — and I had turned down the father when he asked me to marry him, because he was a veterinarian who was messing with the drugs he stored, supposedly only for his animal patients. I didn’t want to live with a man, no matter that he was a veterinarian with a lucrative practice and prize location near Microsoft. The scary part … how would I make it without his financial help. Well, long story short, I did survive and created a home business that helped me make it financially while I got to keep my baby at home, not in day care. My mother scoffed at me constantly, but I became too determined to let her pop my balloon.)

      I digressed … that happens more the older one gets!

      Anyway, neither political party — or any interest group — can count on us to vote a certain way any more. NOT AFTER what was done to Hillary.

      NOT AFTER how the Democrats forced Obama on us, and condemned us as racists if we even questioned Obama’s lack of experience — or Obama’s personality disorder that makes him a very poor leader.

      Obama is missing a couple genes necessary to make him a real human being…. like the C gene (for Compassion) and the H gene (for Honesty).

      • DianaLC

        Bronwyn, the two dogs have me wrapped around their smalles toes. Both a hundred pounds, the male though over 100 a bit. Dogs are my most favorite “people” in the world.
        The first night he was in the hospital, I actually woke up at 4:00 a.m screaming “NO!” because I had a vivid dream that the vet at the hospital came out and told me that they had actually forgotten to feed my dog and he had died of starvation, of all things. They thought I was insane when I called immediately to check on his status the the nature of his nutrition. They told me to go back to sleep and get some rest.
        The only other time I’ve had a dream like that occurred when my oldest son was only four and I had been on a week-long trip away from him for the first time. My mother–a woman who never let a moment go by without offering people something to eat–was babysitting. I woke up in a sweat because i was sure my son was starving. (My mother was insulted when I told her.)
        Anyway……many, many, many kudos for you! You did an amazing thing! I am of a generation a little older than yours. We were still arguing the issue of legalizing abortion in our high school years. My friend, the class pregnant girl, and I were the only two who argued that we just didn’t feel right allowing the government to approve such a thing. I’ve since moved on to the point of choice–but I know that I could have never aborted a child. And I am totally sickened by the many young women I’ve known who seem to think abortion is an acceptable alternative to birth control and so have had several abortions. I do think the lax attitude toward abortion shows a downward turn in our society. Babies carry so much of the potential for a greater future of the human race if we just love them all enough to let them reach their own potentials.