http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6898/the-year-of-the-puma/ Sun, 27 May 2012 12:54:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6898/the-year-of-the-puma/#comment-1062815 tutoress Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:21:39 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6898#comment-1062815 The problem with PUMA was the fighting and backbiting, there were problems with grating egos and organizing together to create a unified force. There were many diff factions of more than 300 groups. Can you imagine the power if they all came together. They probably could find a donor like George Soros. Even on the blogs there is a real lack of respect on differing opinions. I guess it is because the leader who is the "icon" of the movement decided to follow the party line. This created a lack of direction and leadership. The problem with PUMA was the fighting and backbiting, there were problems with grating egos and organizing together to create a unified force. There were many diff factions of more than 300 groups. Can you imagine the power if they all came together. They probably could find a donor like George Soros. Even on the blogs there is a real lack of respect on differing opinions. I guess it is because the leader who is the “icon” of the movement decided to follow the party line. This created a lack of direction and leadership.

]]> http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6898/the-year-of-the-puma/#comment-1062793 tutoress Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:06:11 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6898#comment-1062793 I agree with you that Hillary should of pulled a Lieberman. She was the "icon" of a grassroots movement that rebelled against caucus cheating, misogyny, sexism, registration voting fraud and voting fraud. Then she led us to "the One" who committed these crimes and we didn't know what cause we were fighting. She was telling us to vote for Obama and yet within our hearts and minds; somehow, we knew this was not right. Our "icon" followed the party line and where did that leave us now. This is not a condemnation of HRC or her decisions because I do not know the reasons. I do know I feel betrayed to some extent,if I support her, I have to support Obama. I agree with you that Hillary should of pulled a Lieberman. She was the “icon” of a grassroots movement that rebelled against caucus cheating,
misogyny, sexism, registration voting fraud and voting fraud. Then she led us to “the One” who committed these crimes and we didn’t know what cause we were fighting. She was telling us to vote for Obama and yet within our hearts and minds; somehow, we knew this was not right. Our “icon” followed the party line and where did that leave us now. This is not a condemnation of HRC or her decisions because I do not know the reasons. I do know I feel betrayed to some extent,if I support her, I have to support Obama.

]]> http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6898/the-year-of-the-puma/#comment-1062716 tutoress Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:55:45 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6898#comment-1062716 Some Republicans voted for Obama as well. I don't get that rational, but I think they are disillusioned with their own party. Some Republicans voted for Obama as well. I don’t get that rational, but I think they are disillusioned with their own party.

]]> http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6898/the-year-of-the-puma/#comment-1062711 tutoress Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:52:47 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6898#comment-1062711 Your message clearly demonstrates what I stated before about the grassroots "PUMA" movement. There was not a clear, concise and consistent message with concrete goals and objectives. The Obama camp was right on message with a consistent doctrine and rhetoric. They were extremely disciplined with being fed a daily dose of "The Dailey Kos" and "DU". The "hope" and "change" mantra is being replaced with experience and same old Washington insiders. The bots were punked, but we all knew that anyway! Your message clearly demonstrates what I stated before about the grassroots “PUMA” movement. There was not a clear, concise and consistent message with concrete goals and objectives. The Obama camp was right on message with a consistent doctrine and rhetoric. They were extremely disciplined with being fed a daily dose of “The Dailey Kos” and “DU”. The “hope” and “change” mantra is being replaced with experience and same old Washington insiders. The bots were punked, but we all knew that anyway!

]]> http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6898/the-year-of-the-puma/#comment-1062700 tutoress Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:45:09 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6898#comment-1062700 Obama received a lot of foreign money that was broken down into small increments. This money came from foreign countries not to mention he had a blogging center on the GAZA strip. Hint! Hint! Obama received a lot of foreign money that was broken down into small increments. This money came from foreign countries not to mention he had a blogging center on the GAZA strip. Hint! Hint!

]]> http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6898/the-year-of-the-puma/#comment-1062696 tutoress Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:42:37 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6898#comment-1062696 We need to identify as Americans now and not bipartisan identities. There is a lot at stake within our country. People are losing their jobs, homes and we are in the 6th year of an unpopular war. Obama is planning a civilian army and secret service that entails G-d knows what in our country. The Obamabots are still enraged even though their "Obamamessiah" has stolen the election. Our economy is fixing to completely tank and we are bickering over parties and PUMA factions. Americans who are dissatisfied with their government and parties need to come together without this incessant fighting and make real changes in our country. We need to identify as Americans now and not bipartisan identities. There is a lot at stake within our country. People are losing their jobs, homes and we are in the 6th year of an unpopular war. Obama is planning a civilian army and secret service that entails G-d knows what in our country. The Obamabots are still enraged even though their “Obamamessiah” has stolen the election. Our economy is fixing to completely tank and we are bickering over parties and PUMA factions. Americans who are dissatisfied with their government and parties need to come together without this incessant fighting and make real changes in our country.

]]> http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6898/the-year-of-the-puma/#comment-1062682 tutoress Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:33:27 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6898#comment-1062682 great post noproblema! You Betcha! great post noproblema! You Betcha!

]]> http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6898/the-year-of-the-puma/#comment-1062678 tutoress Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:31:20 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6898#comment-1062678 Kerry the scumbag deserved it! Kerry the scumbag deserved it!

]]> http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6898/the-year-of-the-puma/#comment-1062674 tutoress Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:29:56 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6898#comment-1062674 This is what I was talking about earlier. The consistency and continuity, and on the same message. In order to teach the DNC a lesson every PUMA should of voted for McCain/Palin. This would of helped tremendously. There needed to be an education on the political reasons to vote for the GOP ticket. The main lesson, Obama won! Republicans voted for Obama just to teach the GOP a lesson. They did not write in a name or vote 3rd party. The moderates have to realize that this is the "New Socialist Party" the moderates have been kicked out of the party. We didn't leave the party, the party left us! The only to defeat Obama was to vote McCain/Palin! A lack of consistency in message and goals in the PUMA movement. This is what I was talking about earlier. The consistency and continuity, and on the same message. In order to teach the DNC a lesson every PUMA should of voted for McCain/Palin. This would of helped tremendously. There needed to be an education on the political reasons to vote for the GOP ticket. The main lesson, Obama won! Republicans voted for Obama just to teach the GOP a lesson. They did not write in a name or vote 3rd party. The moderates have to realize that this is the “New Socialist Party” the moderates have been kicked out of the party. We didn’t leave the party, the party left us! The only to defeat Obama was to vote McCain/Palin! A lack of consistency in message and goals in the PUMA movement.

]]> http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6898/the-year-of-the-puma/#comment-1062660 tutoress Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:21:40 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6898#comment-1062660 I saw within the PUMA movement a lack of cohesiveness in their message and an unwillingness to get along with each other. There were factions within the movement battling each other. The work they accomplished was phenomenal and their mark on history will be noted. I believe if they could of united together with a consistent message, with continuity, and work in harmony, this grass roots movement would of been a force to be reckoned with in the Democratic Party. I saw within the PUMA movement a lack of cohesiveness in their message and an unwillingness to get along with each other. There were factions within the movement battling each other. The work they accomplished was phenomenal and their mark on history will be noted. I believe if they could of united together with a consistent message, with continuity, and work in harmony, this grass roots movement would of been a force to be reckoned with in the Democratic Party.

]]> http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6898/the-year-of-the-puma/#comment-1062575 tutoress Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:59:48 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6898#comment-1062575 Can you give me the sources to BO's sexism in his speeches in LA and SC! THANKS! Can you give me the sources to BO’s sexism in his speeches in LA and SC! THANKS!

]]> http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6898/the-year-of-the-puma/#comment-1062567 tutoress Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:55:26 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6898#comment-1062567 McCain was considered a weak candidate. When he agreed to sign the bail out package and offer bail out to people losing their homes the ultra conservative base just did not show up to vote. Sarah Palin was not the problem. It was her handlers. She only had 2 months to get ready for the onslaught of Dailey Kos and the Obamabots. Obama was less qualified than Palin. He has never held a job except community organizer. At one point, MO was the sole supporter of the family. The GOP completely mismanaged this campaign. They need to get rid of the "old guard" and bring in the modern young Republicans. The Republicans have got to stop using language such as "welfare payments" and "handouts" when referring to assisting people to independence. Bobby Jindal got it right when he said "we have to offer solutions". PUMA had over 300 groups and a grassroots operation trying to form. They needed big time donors and a consistent message. PUMA did not have the money or time to develop into their rival MOVEON.org. If PUMA had the money of George Soros supporting their cause, I think they could of beaten Obama. Many dissenting Democrats such as myself, have become Indies and many PUMAS as well. The consistent message we need to remember, what brought us together is the fact "our voices were not heard", "our vote did not count" and for women the "sexism and misogyny". PUMA may have to redefine their goals, but the grass roots movement could turn into moveon.org. McCain was considered a weak candidate. When he agreed to sign the bail out package and offer bail out to people losing their homes the ultra conservative base just did not show up to vote. Sarah Palin was not the problem. It was her handlers. She only had 2 months to get ready for the onslaught of Dailey Kos and the Obamabots. Obama was less qualified than Palin. He has never held a job except community organizer. At one point, MO was the sole supporter of the family. The GOP completely mismanaged this campaign. They need to get rid of the “old guard” and bring in the modern young Republicans. The Republicans have got to stop using language such as “welfare payments” and “handouts” when referring to assisting people to independence. Bobby Jindal got it right when he said “we have to offer solutions”. PUMA had over 300 groups and a grassroots operation trying to form. They needed big time donors and a consistent message. PUMA did not have the money or time to develop into their rival MOVEON.org. If PUMA had the money of George Soros supporting their cause, I think they could of beaten Obama. Many dissenting Democrats such as myself, have become Indies and many PUMAS as well. The consistent message we need to remember, what brought us together is the fact “our voices were not heard”, “our vote did not count” and for women the “sexism and misogyny”. PUMA may have to redefine their goals, but the grass roots movement could turn into moveon.org.

]]> http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6898/the-year-of-the-puma/#comment-1062554 tutoress Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:36:18 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6898#comment-1062554 Could you give me the sources for the sexism in BO's speech in Louisiana and South Carolina. I would really appreciate it. Could you give me the sources for the sexism in BO’s speech in Louisiana and South Carolina. I would really appreciate it.

]]> http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6898/the-year-of-the-puma/#comment-1062403 Sierra Cat Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:19:57 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6898#comment-1062403 Can there be a better example why the PUMA movement was marginalized then these comments? Can there be a better example why the PUMA movement was marginalized then these comments?

]]> http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/6898/the-year-of-the-puma/#comment-1060551 daiseymae Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:16:56 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=6898#comment-1060551 I wondered the exact same things last February. I too thought I was the only one, and like you, discovered the blogosphere for the 1st time. I had been relying on CNN, MSNBC, etc. but that didn't last long. I found my way here through Hillary is 44, then Taylor Marsh, and various blogs along the way. This is the 1st place I come for my morning news, every morning. I was a life-time Democrat ~ 30 some years, but couldn't bring myself to support the Party or Obama. I had been wronged, dreadfully wronged, and I will not soon forget that. I voted McCain, and do not regret my decision. Since the election, I have gone through several stages of recovery. I do not consider myself a Republican by any means. I still identify more closely with Democrats. Until the Party comes clean, I will vote for the person I believe is best for the country, at local, state, and national levels. I can't foresee a time when I would ever again align myself strictly with any Party. Things change, but what the DNC did, along with the compliant media, is pretty darn unforgiveable. Thanks for the post. For not being all that familiar with PUMAs, you did a darn good job. Salut! I wondered the exact same things last February. I too thought I was the only one, and like you, discovered the blogosphere for the 1st time. I had been relying on CNN, MSNBC, etc. but that didn’t last long. I found my way here through Hillary is 44, then Taylor Marsh, and various blogs along the way. This is the 1st place I come for my morning news, every morning. I was a life-time Democrat ~ 30 some years, but couldn’t bring myself to support the Party or Obama. I had been wronged, dreadfully wronged, and I will not soon forget that. I voted McCain, and do not regret my decision. Since the election, I have gone through several stages of recovery. I do not consider myself a Republican by any means. I still identify more closely with Democrats. Until the Party comes clean, I will vote for the person I believe is best for the country, at local, state, and national levels. I can’t foresee a time when I would ever again align myself strictly with any Party. Things change, but what the DNC did, along with the compliant media, is pretty darn unforgiveable. Thanks for the post. For not being all that familiar with PUMAs, you did a darn good job. Salut!

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