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Barack Obama, Socialist Fool

* Bumped Up *

Talk about a Socialist/Marxist mentality. Barack Obama believes that there are no self-made men and women. He must be projecting from his own Equal Opportunity supported lifestyle.

Obama goes on to press the socialist vision:

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

Well, Barack, since the roads, bridges and internet exist for everybody, then why do only a few succeed? I worked my way through college and paid my own way. I finished my undergraduate degree in three years and graduated Phi Beta Kappa. No one else did that. No one studied for me. No one else woke me up and forced me to go to my job as a Respiratory Therapy Tech at Boone County Hospital. I made sacrifices to succeed. And no, no parent or relative helped.

When I started my business as a consultant I did not seek out U.S. Government contracts nor did I ask for a Government loan or handout. I had to do the work and I had to deliver a quality product or else I would not get hired again.

Clearly, in Barack Obama’s delusional world, what you do does not matter. How you perform does not matter. That’s why he refuses to disclose his college records. He was a mediocre student who got ahead by playing the race card. He got minority preferences and discovered the joys of government handouts.

What a despicable human being. He is a total disgrace as a President of this country and must defeated come November.

  • John Markham

    Fascist dictator that need to end by
    all means necessary this man is about spin and deception his pretty words are deceptive by design the same lies and fraudulent promises he made to get elected are still used to spin the truth we the American people must realize this man is fake and planted to deceive and convince the naïve uneducated low information voter. See the truth realize the deception and end this monster quickly

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  • Flop_Flipper

    How does a venture capitalist spend his Olympics? Not getting paid and volunteering to help his nation. And the world.

    When I hear people talk about how boring Mitt Romney is I have to laugh. This dude is outrageous. During the lead up to the 2002 Winter Olympics, Romney gave an interview with Katie Couric for the Today Show. He decided to give her a taste of a revived Olympic sport called Skeleton. Essentially it’s like bobsledding except you don’t have a bobsled and you aren’t sitting down. Instead there is this thin, almost a saucer sled that you lie on face first by yourself as you navigate the course. Your chin is about an inch, maybe two above the ice while you do this. And, oh yeah, you might reach 80 mph. Katie asked Mitt if he was “completely nuts” and he replied, “Maybe a little.”

    Romney found that building a relationship with the media was important. So when Micheal Hiestand of USA Today wanted to write a nice Olympics feature, he decided to hang out with Romney. Big mistake. Romney first took him horseback riding. Then Hiestand made a joke about Reagan looking more presidential in the saddle and Romney gave the horse a command. Off Hiestand galloped, much to his dismay, Romney busting out laughing.

    Next Mitt took him to the Skeleton venue and managed to volunteer Hiestand to join him. I’ll let him describe the experience for you.

    It started as I leaned against Romney’s car as he talked to guys aiming to become instant Olympians by trying the skeleton, a sort of head-first slide on a cookie sheet that was being reintroduced as an Olympic sport. Besides Jim Shea, Jr., who won the 2002 Olympic gold, not many Americans knew how to do it.

    Romney certainly didn’t. But that didn’t stop him from promising to the guys there at the Olympic sliding venue that he’d give it a go. And, vaguely pointing in my direction, he volunteered some other guy would try it too.

    I turned around to see who he meant.

    I was soon being fitted with elbow pads.

    Of course, I could have shrugged them off. But as a native Westerner who spent his adult life back East, I suddenly realized how sensitive I was to the idea of having gone soft (ignoring that I was never that tough to begin with).

    I couldn’t say no.

    Instead, I figured I could get Ann Romney to talk Mitt (and thus, me) out of it.

    She laughed. I was practically begging her when Romney, nearby, called for silence and then loudly asked if anybody had blood buckets. Or body bags. Or adult diapers.

    Hilarious. And then Romney was off down the Olympic track, screaming as he slid.

    My turn. I asked the track handlers what I should do. They said, don’t oversteer! Recoiling from whatever they saw on my face, I remember hearing buddy-you-know-you-really-don’t-have-to-do-this.

    But I did. Don’t remember it much. Maybe it would all come back to me if I got tied to some car’s front bumper — where my face could nick the pavement — and somebody took me out on an interstate.

    But I remember Romney and me at the bottom of the track. We were like astronauts exiting their Gemini space capsule to bestride an aircraft carrier’s deck. We chuckled that the ice seemed too slow.

    I heard Romney took lots more skeleton rides.

    And when I now see Romney look a bit stilted or stiff on TV, I’m not fooled.

    This should once and for all clear up the misconception that Mitt Romney is boring. Maybe a little “completely nuts” but certainly no bore. The Skeleton in his closet rocks!

    Oh, and if you want to see what Skeleton is, I found this video NBC used during the 2002 Olympics to introduce it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2lvhgVimy0&feature=related

    • HELENK2

      there is no way you can raise 5 boys without a sense of humor.

  • jrterrier

    Mitt’s response to the above video:
    http://youtu.be/SU1mLfDeGGE
    in Pennsylvania

  • jrterrier

    Sununuism of the day:
    “He has no idea how the American system functions, and we shouldn’t be surprised about that, because he spent his early years in Hawaii smoking something, and spent the next set of years in Indonesia,” Sununu told Fox News on Tuesday. “And frankly, when he came to the U.S. he worked as a community organizer, which is a socialized structure, and then got into politics in Chicago. There has been no experience in his life in which he has earned a private sector paycheck that meant anything.”
    http://youtu.be/W7RMgPa7BNw

    • MG6

      Great video, I hope you don’t mind but I sent it along to family and friends.

      • jrterrier

        go right ahead. it’s not my video.

  • jrterrier

    People should contact Youtube and complain for taking down the Romney ad that featured the President singing claiming copywright issues while leaving up the video of the president singing the same song. and other videos that feature the singing and promote the president.
    http://www.youtube.com/t/contact_us

    • Hokma

      Youtube, like Wiki and like Google are socialist friendly Internet vehicles.

  • jrterrier

    romney had a good line on the stump today. he said that the president, who has blamed all sorts of things including ATM machines has now found someone new to blame — Romney.

  • foxyladi14
  • HELENK2
  • HELENK2

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/16/Obama-Fails-To-Meet-Budget-Review-Deadline

    between campaigning and golfing, backtrack failed to meet budget review deadline.

    according to the backtrack bunch , Romney was running the Olympics and Bain Capitol at the same time.

    So who is the most competent?????????

  • HELENK2
  • Flop_Flipper

    Since the Obama camp has decided to attack Romney for the years he wasn’t at Bain, I decided to do a little research of my own by reading Romney’s book,Turnaround: Crisis, Leadership, and the Olympic Games, about what he went through and learned from the Olympics experience. What Romney was faced with and what he had to accomplish were extraordinary. Yet he rose to the challenge and succeeded. The book is quite detailed with some of the more interesting challenges and is well worth the read if you appreciate history. Or the Olympics. Or a how-to method of accomplishing something much greater than yourself.

    I find it unfathomable that anyone in their right mind could think for even one moment that Romney had the time to do anything at Bain Capital during this period. Of course Obots, like their fearful leader, aren’t known to appreciate hard work. So they probably gloss over things like working 16 hour days, sometimes 7 days a week. Obots just don’t get it. Romney didn’t play golf? Didn’t hang out at the bars? Actually dedicated himself to helping the Olympics without compensation? No Obamabucks? Yikes! It’s no wonder they hide from the truth. The truth is light and they are but shadows. Dirty, stinkin, idiot shadows. But shadows nonetheless.

    Liberals do not appreciate hard work. They don’t understand the concept. To them it is anathema, a disease without a cure. If people work hard and make due on their own then what happens to “government?” It makes their version of “government” obsolete. And that is what they fear most.

    • jrterrier

      oh, come on, you must be exagerating. The president just told us that no one accomplishes anything because of their own hard work and perseverance. watch the video again.

      but seriously, from everything i’ve read about romney — from his college days to his days at Bain to the governorship, that’s exactly how he has tackled everything he handles.

      he didn’t just start Bain Capital, after he left Bain to start up Bain Capital, Bain ran into trouble and was facing bankruptcy. He was asked to return to Bain and in a couple of years he turned it around. there was an interesting story one of the bain capital people told about how tight romney was with spending and how that particular guy would go to Bain to eat their food because Romney did not provide free lunches and snacks at Bain Capital. romney did the same thing at the olympics, he eliminated the executve lunches which were costing thousands each week and replaced them with $5 pizza pies from Dominos, which he then sold to the attendees at a $1/slice thus making $3 on each pizza pie, which went back into the Olympic coffers.

      Wouldn’t that kind of leadership bring a breath of fresh air to the fed govt?

      • foxyladi14

        Nancy could just eat those flowers she spends a fortune on.lolol

    • Hokma

      From the “corporate sponsorship” side I had been involved in a number of Olympics. The thing about events is that there is a beginning and then a distinct end – there are no do-overs.

      The Utah Olympics was a disaster and corporations were very hesitent to put money into it. I did not know much about Romney at the time but he did come in and did an incredible job of turning the situation around and the result was the most successful Olympics in history and the standard for all future Olympics. And he was directly involved in so many aspects especially dealing with the corporate sponsorships in order to provide reassurance.

      • http://twitter.com/geffbeck jbeck

        Everything we know about Mitt Fraudney tells us that this guy has been an A-grade jerk all his life. From high school, thru college (where he dodged the draft) thru college and then in the corporate world where he made millions firing honest workers, shafting communities and bilking the local government. And now this guy’s got every bankster funding him so he wont disclose who his bundlers are. And on top of that are his foreign accounts, and then outsourcing uniforms to Burma. Actually a job in hte private sector doesn’t qualify to lead a nation. Not America. Fraudney is a joke of a candidate and its good to see you Rush fanboys wring your hands in despair as Mitt’s campaign flounders and then implodes. Get used to it guys. Barry will give the victory speech on 11/6/2012 and his 2nd inaugural on 1/20/2013. Get used to it.

        • Flop_Flipper

          Fuck off Obot!

        • jrterrier

          of all the garbage you spout without a single source to support and contrary to the known facts, this is the most ignorant:

          “Actually a job in hte (sic) private sector doesn’t qualify to lead a nation.”

          really, that’s funny because the founding fathers, who gave us a constitution that is simply a genius and continues to be the model for all free peoples were all men who made a living in the private sector.

          ben franklin, thomas jefferson, madison, adams.

        • Hokma

          Get a job Jerkie and stop feeding off of your mommy and daddy.

  • jrterrier

    i think it’s no coincidence that after Romney’s speech at the NAACP, the Obama campaign jumped the shark against him. And the latest polls show Romney ahead in FL and too close to call in OH, NV, & CO.
    Romney’s speech.
    http://youtu.be/WAhJh0ADd9k

  • akaPatience

    One of the great ironies of Obama’s remark is that so many helping hands in the form of educational opportunites are SQUANDERED by too many of the very people who stand to gain the most. In spite of increased spending per pupil in addition to the dumbing-down of curricula, the fact remains that there are people who simply aren’t willing to make much of an effort, and by failing to contribute to their own betterment they also fail to contribute to the betterment of society.
    A major characteristic of this POTUS that I just cannot stomach is that he’s effectively turned out to be just the opposite of what he appeared to be when he gave his famous 2004 convention speech: instead he’s hyper-divisive and pits rich vs. poor, private vs. public, etc., etc. And now he’s essentially telling folks that they can’t possibly be masters of their own fates – that success is achieved because of The Kindness of Strangers.
    How [un]motivational!

    • jrterrier

      yes, he is consciously and strategically dividing the country.

      • getfitnow

        From DAY ONE! Actually it really started in ’08. Most people were to star struck to see it and the msm didn’t help.

        Recall in SF his comment about gun clingers/bible tooters and in FL about how the GOP would scare you ’cause I don’t look like other POTUS’ on the money and I have a funny name. BTW, Allen West really called him out on that last statement, but who knew that? crickets…

    • buzzlatte3

      I couldn’t of said it better. There will always be people who don’t want an education, don’t want to better themselves, don’t have the desire to be productive, but to drag an entire country down because of them has proven to be a nightmare.

  • jrterrier

    “It’s amazing to me that this president would introduce the word felon into the discourse. This is a president who wallowed in Chicago in the murky soup of politics and felons, a region where the politicians quite often end up as felons in jail. This is a president who cut a very snarky real estate deal with Tony Rezko, who is now in prison for trying to extort some money on a political basis. Why would the president want to give people an opportunity to raise his wallowing with felons in the past by raising that question?”
    http://video.insider.foxnews.com/v/1737828595001/
    Ok, I admit it. I am a Sununubot. I will follow him anywhere.

  • jrterrier

    “Whatever his intentions or provocations, Obama is now engaged in partisan polarization on an industrial scale. His campaign’s latest round of Bain charges is not politics as usual. It is the accusation of criminal impropriety — the filing of false government documents — without real evidence, as various fact-checking outfits have attested. Obama’s recent attack ad, “Firms,” reflects the sensibilities of a particularly nasty 13-year-old. It is difficult to imagine most Americans saying: “That is just what American politics most needs — more juvenile viciousness.”

    “These are not excesses; they are the essence of Obama’s current political strategy. He is attempting to destroy Romney before Romney can define himself, while using a series of issues — the mini-DREAM Act, voting rights and contraceptive controversies — to excite his base. The approach is not politically irrational. But it is premised on the avoidance of issues such as unemployment and the deficit. And it leaves little room for complaints about the brokenness of Washington.
    . . .
    “It is also one reason, according to Gallup, the gap between partisans’ approval ratings of Obama has been “historically high.” This does not mean the GOP bears no responsibility. It only means Obama has made Washington more broken and continues to make it more broken — both responding to grievances and creating new reasons for grievance.
    Meanwhile, America is well on its way to a disturbing destination: A nation with the responsibilities of a superpower and the politics of a banana republic.”
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/07/17/our_politics_of_polarization_114810.html

  • jrterrier

    Reminds me of an article i read recently “Welcome to California: America without Republicans”
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/welcome-to-california-america-without-republicans/article/2502102

    “I believe that if we’re successful in this election,” President Obama told campaign donors in Minnesota last month, “that the fever may break, because there’s a tradition in the Republican Party of more common sense than that.” . . .But what would America look like if the Republican “fever” did break?

    “We already know. It would look a lot like the state of California, where no non-cyborg Republican has been elected governor since 1994. Democrats have also enjoyed complete control of the state legislature since 1997. And they have governed exactly the way you’d expect Democrats to govern.

    Spending has more than doubled, from $45.4 billion in 1996 to more than $92.5 billion today. Income, sales and car taxes have all been hiked. As a result, California has the most progressive income tax system in the nation, with seven income tax brackets, and the second-highest top marginal rate.

    “Even with all those tax hikes, California’s 2012 budget is still $15.7 billion in the red. So what does Gov. Jerry Brown want to do? Raise taxes again, of course. He has proposed a ballot initiative that would: 1) raise sales taxes on everyone and 2) raise incomes taxes on those making more than $250,000 a year (like Obama has proposed to do nationally). But even this $8.5 billion tax hike would still leave the state $7.5 billion short. Where will California get that money? Who knows?

    • getfitnow

      I don’t doubt at this point, he’ll win CA. But the internal polls couldn’t be too good. Why is he running ads here already–negative ads, I might add.

  • arturo_ui

    ” I worked my way through college and paid my own way. I finished my undergraduate degree in three years and graduated Phi Beta Kappa. No one else did that. No one studied for me. No one else woke me up and forced me to go to my job as a Respiratory Therapy Tech at Boone County Hospital. I made sacrifices to succeed. And no, no parent or relative helped.”

    That is an admirable story, but one that is exceedingly rare. The vast majority of Americans have relied on help from someone, somewhere, to get where we are. The fact that you had no parents, relatives, or loans to help get you through college, simply isn’t the experience of the vast majority of college-bound Americans. That angle only alienates the rest of us who were such sad pathetic sacks that we dared asked mom and dad to chip in for as much of the tuition as they could.

    • buzzlatte3

      Your point? As an observation and question, are you still expecting someone to hand things out to you, by any chance?
      If your answer is, “yes”, that would explain your support of socialism and Obama.

      My parents helped me with university tuition, but I had to buy my books, pay my rent, and all other personal expenses. Therefore, I worked and went to school. I don’t feel pathetic or sad. I am grateful for the hand-up in tuition and grateful that I learned early on that life was always going to have expenses.

      So many in this country don’t want to take responsibility for themselves as evidenced by now 5th and 6th generation welfare. That’s what is sad and pathetic as is your rationalization for supporting Obama.

      • arturo_ui

        Like I said, I’m only pointing out that Larry’s experience is exceedingly rare. Most college graduates had the benefit of SOME type of assistance. There’s nothing wrong with that, though Larry is implying that there is.

        • scottymac54

          It’s actually just another form of “class warfare”, that preceded Reagan, in the 1970s….
          “He, who is worthy, shall be deserving of his fortunes, and, he, who is NOT worthy, shall be scorned, and begrudged…..”

        • buzzlatte3

          Really? In your Obama world? Most I went to school with were paying their own way. I was the exception having parental help with tuition. My dad made too much money for me to get any sort of loans. Later, when I went back for a second degree, I had no loan history and so I paid out of pocket for that one. And now, for the completion of my third and fun degree, I paid out of pocket for that one, too. Hmmmm, I guess I’m just too American – being responsible for my own decisions and education.

          • scottymac54

            Why should anyone who cannot “pay out of pocket” be less worthy of an education then you feel yourself to be?
            The cost of education is the issue. Your individual means shouldn’t even enter into the equation.

            • buzzlatte3

              Where did you make that jump? No one said anything about being less worthy. Man, the chip on your shoulder must be the size of Rhode Island.

              I do think that the diploma mills, on-line universities, and the watered down coursework – don’t argue with me on that – I’ve taught at university level – have diminished the actual value of a degree and give false rise to people thinking they are well-educated, when they are not. Case in point, worked with a student who was getting a MS in Counseling without ever actually working with a human client from an online university. Sad but true. A few years ago, ran into same ex-student working at Nordstrom. Seems this person couldn’t make a living counseling. Hmmmm…

              • scottymac54

                I still don’t get how angry and bitter you seem, as well as others do.
                It may be a legitimate point to discuss, but I’m not sure how this particular angle benefits Romney’s campaign, or what we are supposed to be gaining from it.

                • buzzlatte3

                  I’m merely replying to your bitter assertion that somehow people are less or whatever nonsense YOU brought up. Please review your own comments. No one is making the assertion that this helps Romney, and, frankly, it’s a little frightening to see that your thought processes seem to circle back to a state of depression.

        • DianaLC

          I did have a scholarship–full tuition based on my valedictorian standing and my ACT and SAT scores. I worked 25 hours a week as a waitress to pay my living expenses and studied very hard to keep my scholarship as I wrote above. My parents could not give me anything toward college as they were first generation Americans, son and daughter of poor stoop labor workers in American fields. Children of people who had fled Russia just in time before the bolsheviks turned their farms into failed factory farms and communal farms and caused two terrible famines ten years apart.
          Of course all people get help from somewhere sometimes. But you are all missing the point. You can concentrate on asking for handouts (what you call help), or you can concentrate on making your own way as much as possible. Which choice will make you more proud of yourself?
          It’s the old saying: Give a man a fish and you feed him at that time; teach a man to fish and he feeds himself for a long time. That saying emphasizes what the Republicans are trying to emphasize–helping people help themselves. The Dems just like to feel like little “saints” or something who believe they are saving everyone. Will they be surprised when all those people they saved turn on them, as usually happens because a person who gets used to getting handouts soon expects more and more and is never satisfied, especially when all the handouts are being stretched too thin because everyone is getting them without earning them themselves.

  • TeakWoodKite

    “They did not build that…”
    Oh contrare Mr. Soetoro. (BO has taken to calling Romney “Mr.” instead of “Gov.Romney”)
    If you build it he will come.”

  • buzzlatte3

    OT: Youtube pulled Romney ad featuring Obama singing Al Green… NewsBusters.org. Copyright issues according to Youtube – yeah, right, and Obama is the messiah…

    • KataKimbe

      Isn’t that interesting. Do they still have Obama singing Al Green by himself? Talk about being in the tank for the Prez.

  • HELENK2

    off topic

    scare tactics or for real????????????

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/britain-chief-nuclear-iran/2012/07/15/id/445421?s=al&promo_code=F798-1

    MI6 says Iran will have bomb by 2014 and Israel will attack

    • TeakWoodKite

      both.

      • buzzlatte3

        Oh boy, look what Obama has done now. One thing Congress could work on is a faster system to remove a non-functional president, jmho.

        • scottymac54

          I cannot be the only one terrified, by the specter of Romney’s foreign policy neocons leading him around by the tail, while the teabagger mobs warmonger in the background…
          Only Hillary has had the foresight and wisdom to see “Commander Drone” for what he is, and keep him in check….
          In January, we officially run out of grownups.

          • buzzlatte3

            Hillary got to meet some tomatoes and shoes. Guess not everyone thinks Hillary walks on water.

            • scottymac54

              No matter. She remains the superior candidate, to date, IMHO. No point in avoiding the subject, with what we’re saddled with now.

          • jrterrier

            nothing in romney’s life supports your fears. — even if Ambassador Bolton is on his team. Romney is a man who makes decision based on facts and logic. he is a measured man.

    • HELENK2

      Pentagon bulking up defenses in Persian Gulf with a missile-defense radar station in Qatar and mine-sweeping exercises – @WSJ

  • HELENK2

    pretty bad when the New York Times says backtrack is wrong about Bain and Romney

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Romney-Bain-left-evidence/2012/07/16/id/445489

  • HELENK2

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/romneys-new-foe-batmans-bane/article/2502274

    Dems to use Batman against Romney.. so now backtrack will come off looking like a scrawny Robin

    • getfitnow

      These fools need to grow up.

  • jrterrier

    instead of speaking on the sunday shows, rahm should be trying to solve Chicago’s problems:
    http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/2-More-Teens-Charged-in-Videotaped-Beating-Death-162564546.html

    • getfitnow

      Not this Sunday, but he told the gangsters in Chicago to “leave the children alone.” Carte Blanche on anyone else, I guess.

  • foxyladi14

    And quite frankly, we don’t care about Romney’s tax returns. We don’t
    care about what Romney does with his own money. We *do* care about what
    Obama is doing with *our* money.

    • scottymac54

      I think we should be concerned with what ALL of them have done….
      Mitt’s whole trip is to define himself as a businessman to serve as president, which makes it all fair game.
      He released his info for his last two runs….why should there be a problem now?
      Self-created drama, IMHO. It really makes me wonder if the Republicans even want to win, or if they just want to remain the controlled opposition.

  • HELENK2
  • HELENK2
  • HELENK2

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/07/16/old-and-busted-obama-attacks-romney-for-meeting-with-trump-new-and-hot-obama-meets-with-jerry-springer/

    this does show the difference between backtrack and Romney

    Romney has a meeting with Donald Trump ( a successful businessman)

    backtrack has a meeting with ( wait for it) Jerry Springer

    • buzzlatte3

      More like Obama could GET an interview with Springer and not Trump. Trump has no use for Obama and neither does this country.

  • HELENK2

    http://crayfisher.wordpress.com/2012/07/16/angienc-tells-it-like-it-is-on-bain/#comments

    explanation on Romney’s role at Bain while he was working on the Olympics
    A very informative and plain speaking explanation

    • scottymac54

      They really are raising up Romney as a “Messiah”, just as the “Obamabots” did to Obama in 2008.

      • http://twitter.com/TheAngieNC2 Angie

        How in the heck did you get “raising Romney up as a Messiah” from that? It is the truth about those SEC docs listing Romney as “President, CEO and Sole Shareholder” of Bain VI (his ownership share of Bain). He still owned it when he left Bain to run the Olympics but he was no longer in charge of managing Bain investments — the same way you, me or the average Joe *owns* his 401(k) but isn’t in charge of the companies the 401(k) invests in. If you can’t accept how property rights work, that really isn’t my problem.

        BTW everyone, I’m HankdeCat too — since I got on Twitter I no longer need to us the FB account I created (and named for my cat) to comment on discus blogs.

        • scottymac54

          That’s disingenous….it’s like, “He left it, he wasn’t part of it, but he was the sole owner??” That’s an uncomfortable spin, so uncomfortable, that Barky’s team must have been salivating over it….
          To me, the refusal to release his tax returns is far more aggregious, and self-defeating….but I’m not surprised, because I’ve said consistently and repeatedly, that none of the Republican candidates represented much of a departure, or were significantly different than Obama…
          The tone of your reply proves my point about the equivalency of the “Obamabots”, and hardcore Romney supporters.
          Change a few qualifiers around, and it reads exactly like the responses we Clinton supporters received from defensive “Obots” during the 2008 race.
          Those were the “true Obots”, not the ones you see here now, the vast majority of whom are simply challenging assumptions made by writers here.
          Good luck with your endeavor, even though I cannot offer you support.

          • HoosierinDixie

            As CEO, Mitt retained signatory powers and was obligated by law to sign the SEC papers. As acknowledge by Bain partners (Obama donors) NYT, CNN, factcheck.org and others, he had no managerial duties or participation after Feb of 1999. Newspaper and web profiles in 2000 on Bain doesn’t even list Romney. How uncomfortable for you and the Obama campaign that you can not accept the facts. Trying to perpetuate the lie only enforces the fact Obama has no concept of business and is completely unqualified to straighten out the economy.

            • scottymac54

              Hoosier? You obviously don’t possess superior reading comprehension skills, or you’d understand I am NOT an Obama supporter, much less with his campaign, LOL!
              I will NOT, ever again, vote for any candidate without scrutinizing them carefully, just because “he’s not Obama”.
              I’m actually not “perpetuating” anything, LOL!
              I’m simply saying that, if Romney was the sole owner of record, during that time period, what role he actually played, his Olympic miracle, etc. is meaningless.
              Now, if media sources are reporting that he still owned it, THAT is what is going to affect voters, and their turnout levels.
              Perception really is reality at this stage, and, after all, the campaign is not doing anything to refute it! Supporters should stop screaming about property rights when it is not clear how that would be applied, and request clarity from the campaign!
              What I am steadfast on, is the release of the tax information. After all the heartache we’ve endured and the lack of trust Obama engendered with his secretive attitude, we should never put up with this again, and “soon” should be made to be understood as “too late”.
              Romney presents the sum total of himself as a businessman and careful steward. We require as much data as we can get our hands on (knowing such “businessmen” of his level, rarely if ever carry their full share of the tax burden).

              • HoosierinDixie

                Don’t insult me about reading comprehension when yours is seriously lacking. I never claimed you were with the campaign. You did however claim to be uncomfortable with Romneys and the media explanation. I am voting for Mitt because I beleive he is the best for the economy. I was a Hillary supporter because I beleived she was the same. But you should also know I was born and raised in the Chicagoland area and worked for many years in the city. I knew all about Obama and his cronies long before he was a household name. He is as Larry says he is… a socialist self serving prick,hell bent on changing this country. And why shouldn’t he be when every influence in his life hates America and wants to destroy its complete economic and political structure. He got the idea from his parents, Frank Davis, Rev. Wright, Billy the Bomber Ayers and Bernie Dorhn etc. Everyone else he associated with is either in prison or heading there soon. He has spent millions to hide his past and you are worried about Romney’s tax returns. Give me a freaking break.When you starting calling for full transparancy on Obamas part than maybe I will take you seriously. Until then I have nothing more to say to you. You can remain loyal to a party that has proven it has no principles and showed you the door in May of 2008. I got no use for them or you. Go Mitt 2012.

                • scottymac54

                  “When you starting calling for full transparancy on Obamas part than maybe I will take you seriously…”
                  Like I said, I DID. For over three years.
                  Good luck with your assumptions. I’m sure they’ll work wonders with the very independents, moderates, and crossover DEMOCRATS, whose votes your candidate needs to win.
                  I’m sure they will greatly appreciate and remember the questions you had about their personal and political choices.

                  • HoosierinDixie

                    I am an independent. After 3 1/2 years of Obama’s bullshit, I don’t think anyone who didn’t vote for him in 2008 will vote for him now.Don’t think Barky can say the same. Political and personal choices? Buzz is right, you need help. In the future, please do not respond to my post and I will give you the same courtesy. Good luck to you and good night.

              • jrterrier

                I’ll take you at your word that you are not an Obamamot so don’t take this personally.

                It is so ironic that the very media outlets that are pushing the Bain issue (let’s call them the Bainers) had little or no difficulty to accept at face value when the then Sen Obama claimed he had been absent from Rev Wright’s church eact time he made some provocative statement. The happy coincidence of that claim is much harder to accept than the fact that Romney who was in Salt Lake City righting a huge enterprise did not maintain managerial authority over Bain.

                • scottymac54

                  Oh, ABSOLUTELY, LOL! See my reply to you above….that’s why I’ve always made it clear that my dilemma is, “Is A businessman really what the country needs?”, rather than focusing on Romney’s work at Bain.
                  I don’t think the initial questioning on Bain was wrong, but I do think the media-driven aspect was irresponsibly conducted on their part, and they really had a responsibility to tamp that down, while they still could.
                  It seems to me, that there are those, who heartily endorsed Romney until recently, who are trying to scrub the taint of impartiality off their hands, by hyperfocusing on Bain, figuring its a no-win for the left….the question is, could they miscalculate, and later be held responsible for bringing a worthy candidate down, for no good reason?
                  I’d like to think they still consider the consequences of their actions, but I guess that’s not likely….

                  • jrterrier

                    I don’t think most of them consider the consequences of their actions. Look at the way Andrea Mitchell, who really is not among the most hyperpartisan has behaved recently intentionally editing videos to mock Romney. Look at how they edited the 911 tapes in the Trayvon Martin case to foment the notion that Zimmerman was a racist — the potential riots that could have erupted be damned.

                    And I also think that many of those in the media are not really very intelligent. They live in such an echo chamber of wealth and overindulgence that they don’t realize what they are doing. they still romanticize Catro despite the way he has treated homosexuals and dissidents. They feel the same about Pres Obama. The ignore the economic hardship that has befallen Americans.

                    • scottymac54

                      Remember, the networks are restructuring, based on market and budgetary conditions.
                      Talk radio is likewise following suit, as the industry has changed profoundly.
                      A lot of these personalities realize they will not land similar jobs at any salary. This will be the last election most of them will be reporting on, and they will feel very motivated…it’s just the nature of the beast…to grab headlines, controversy, a lasting legacy, the truth be damned.
                      (Not sure if you would agree, but I think we’re seeing a more subtle version of this in print media, particularly with Romney, as they indeed race to make the reality fit their narrative….)
                      I don’t think they’re particularly bright, either, because all they’d have to do is watch what’s unfolding before them, through a non-partisan lens, and report the contradictions they see.
                      I do see changes in personalities like Anderson Cooper and the like, but it seems more like actions based on raw self-preservation, then any kind of legitimate self-realization or raising of ethical standards, so, who knows?
                      Maybe the new awareness regarding Zimmerman and the true dynamic that really went down, is a good sign.

                • FLDemFem

                  Obama can’t claim to have been absent when provocative statements were made. If you look at the “riding dirty” sermon video, you will see, on the last frame or two, Obama in his shirt sleeves, laughing and turning to his wife and daughters in the pew next to him. So he was there and he did hear the sermons. At least that one where Wright humped the podium while talking about the Clintons. I got banned from several pro-O blogs for posting it during the 2008 campaign..hehehe.

          • jrterrier

            Scotty, it really isn’t. If you read any of the objective reports — even WAPO, which is no friend of Romneys. He was the founder & CEO of Bain. He left Bain for the Olympics in a matter of 2 weeks. From what i’ve read, no one else could have signed the SEC docs because Romney remained the CEO.
            the only thing anyone could be skeptical about is whether he somehow retained management authority/responsibility, so that you can lay at his feet the actions of Bain in outsourcing or closing plants during that period.
            Several facts support Romney’s position. First, none of the partners (and some are active Obama supporters) have come forward to deny. Second, the SEC docs that reflect the management teams don’t list Romney. Third, the Bain websited from 2000 doesn’t list Romney as on the management team. Fourth, the MA Election Committee that considered this issue in the context of deciding whether Romney was a resident decided that Romney left Bain in 1999. Fifth, no matter how good Romney may be he would have to be superhuman to both fix the huge problems at the Olympics and manage Bain. It stands to reason that the decisions to be made at Bain involved fairly complex judgments and it doesn’t make sense that Romney would be making those decisions as a long-distance manager.
            It’s pretty simple actually. Only if you follow the shiny object that the Obama campaign is bouncing around to distract does it become a difficult concept to accept.

            • scottymac54

              We’ll see. Personally, I’d just as soon overlook the issue entirely, because I don’t see it as being a critical point (I think the critical voters that came out from him believe he’d been with Bain the other time, and it didn’t affect their choices).
              But I think it has legs, in terms of being a repetitive talking point they think they can exploit, like the birth certificate. I’m a big listener of news radio, and I have to laugh about how they’ve really seized on it. I think the campaign should have anticipated it, the early responses did not sound good.
              Many business reporters are trying to add perspective, pointing out that Bain Capital is Goldman Sachs.
              My point has been, why are they highlighting Romney and Bain when Jon Corzine rambles the streets, free?
              Now, that’s a case of an ELECTED official, and there is no accountability. It’s hypocritical for him to get a pass on actual, definable, questionable activities, while actually in and out of office, just out of partisan loyalty, but most people aren’t interested.

              • jrterrier

                The only reason it has legs is because certain media outlets have no integrity. as you mention, if there was even a modicum of journalistic integrity left in the MSM, they would be all over the Corzine story and they would have shamed the Obama administration into letting go of this crazy Bain story.
                I think it was the WAPO ombudstaman who said on face the nation on Sunday that he didn’t blame the Romney campaign for being caught flat-footed on the felony argument because no campaign has ever gone this outside the bounds before.
                i am hopeful that the real people will react as they did with the clinton impeachment. most of the REP House managers were voted out of office in the following years. I’d like to see Debbie WassermanSchultz voted out of office as she continued to make the felony argument.

              • DianaLC

                I am replying to scottymac54 here at the end of this part of the thread that has been taken up with a discussion with schottymac54 by various commenters. Since I have already fought my battle with scotty–who is definitely as capable as the one so named on Kirk’s Enterprise–all I want to say is that he has achieved his purpose on this post by LJ—making it all about scottymac54, who is the center of the universe in his mind. He doesn’t like any politician because it is not he who is in that position of authority. They are all bad and only he has the answers.
                From here on out I will do as I have been doing, refusing to reply to him and simply hitting the down arrow.

              • FLDemFem

                Here is a talking point for you.. when Romney took over the Olympics, they were $350 million or so in the red, ie. a deficit of $350 million. When he was done, there was a profit of $56 million. Wouldn’t it be nice to have him working on the national deficit and economy? I think so.

              • jrterrier

                i don’t think it has legs right now but they are trying to set up an october surprise where they are going to try to pin romney with a medical waste company that disposed of fetuses, which bain capital invested in.

                they are going to try to depress the evangelical & catholic vote for romney.

                that is why, in my opinion, it has become such a hard-fought issue.

                • scottymac54

                  Well, I’ve read the next big meme to be rolled out by the hard left is some aspect of Mormon theology called “The White Horse Prophecy”, that gets into the religious angle in a way that will supposedly seperate Romney and his family from mainstream LDS, and invoke church/state separation issues.
                  I understand virtually nothing about any of this, but I can feel this new message is targeted toward people like me (skeptics of Mormonism), but here’s the wrinkle, and why I think it will fail.
                  I scanned two paragraphs of it….it was put together by an atheist org, and the “evangelical atheist” slant is unescapable.
                  I am religious, and am DONE with aggressive atheists, LOL! And I think I’m not alone, having my beliefs questioned, in the way they do.
                  Again, another case of a political movement, incorporating a stealth campaign before an election, for shock value, that will appeal chiefly to their base, but backfire amongst the center.
                  It all seemed so ludicrous, that I dropped it and moved on to something more relevant.
                  They are overemphasing the amount of enthusiasm everyday people have for these kinds of issues, these days.

        • buzzlatte3

          Don’t worry Angie, Scotty is like some glory boy from the eighties (shades of Breakfast Club) – thinkin that Hillary will save the country and win the presidency…cue the ’80′s movie soundtrack music…

          • scottymac54

            Actually, it’s your robotic Reaganite rhetoric, recycled from that very time period, that I find distracting.
            It’s very boring and meaningless, in today’s context.

            • buzzlatte3

              Then, I guess a gentleman/woman would know when it is time to gracefully leave, now wouldn’t they, Scotty? Scotty?

              BTW – Scotty – registered democrat here and have been for many years. So watch what you do with labels and rhetoric.

              With all of the negative votes you receive, one would think you would get a hint.

              • scottymac54

                Yeah, sure you are….
                Sorry you can’t accept the truth (well, no, I’m not, that actually works out well for me).

                • buzzlatte3

                  Oh, I see you are yet another graduate of Miss Cleo’s School for Political Psychics. Seriously, do you seek professional help for your depression?

                  • scottymac54

                    I actually have no idea what you are talking about…

                    • buzzlatte3

                      It shows!

        • HELENK2

          scottie is not well. he seems to have a problem with women. He attacked my comments a while ago. I just ignore him and think of the song Pity the Fool

          • HELENK2
          • scottymac54

            No, I don’t, and I didn’t.
            But, then again, I don’t have a continuous tape loop, of “backtrack…backtrack…backtrack…” running through my mind, 24/7.
            Thanks for sharing.