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Gulf of Tonkin Syria Style

The war drums are really blasting in Washington and wishful thinking has replaced reason and logic. The Obama Administration, with the full-throated cheerleading of neo-cons like Charles Krauthammer, are celebrating the terrorist attack on the Government of Bashir Assad and hoping that Assad folds his tents. Some breathless analysts on Fox News are even predicting that Assad will be gone in 36 hours. Delusional horseshit.

The Defense Minister who was murdered in this attack was a Christian. The group claiming credit for the attack has direct links to the same folks that fill the ranks of Al Qaeda in Iraq. So who are we backing? Why, the al Qaeda guys, of course.

If you think for a minute that the terrorists attacking the Syrian Government forces are working on their own without any outside assistance, then you are as delusional as the Obama White House. Other countries are helping fund terrorism in Syria.

But we excuse all of this because we are fighting the terrorist threat of Iran. Which brings me to the attack in Bulgaria today on the Israeli tourists. Everyone from Obama to Fox to the Israelis immediately condemned Iran, even though there is no evidence that this was an Iranian attack. Is Iran the only group of Muslims that don’t care for Israel?

Then there is the bullshit “anniversary” analysis.

Nineteen years ago there was a terrorist bombing in Buenos Aires of the Jewish Community Center. Hezbollah operatives, working with extremists in the Argentine military, probably carried out that attack. I don’t know who is responsible for this, but after listening to Israel’s Ambassador tonight it sounds like Israel has the pretext it has been searching for to launch military attacks on Iran.

Iran is not a serious threat. I promotes a far less extreme, violent version of Islam than our good buddies in Saudi Arabia and Egypt. But the Obama Administration, with the full support of Republicans, is backing the Sunnis. This has the potential to end very badly for us and the rest of the world.

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  • HELENK2

    Local Iraqi mayor: Iraq closes its side of Abu Kamal border crossing with Syria after Syrian rebels take control – @Reuters

    Submitted 39 mins ago

    by editor

  • HELENK2

    Syrian regime tanks head from Deraa to Damascus: Al Arabiya sources #AlArabiya #Syria #Assad

  • HELENK2

    Update: TV in Syria shows Assad swearing in new defense minister, his 1st public appearance since Wednesday’s attack – @BBCBreaking

  • HELENK2

    http://www.rt.com/news/bulgaria-suicide-bomber-identified-israel-587/

    bulgarian suicide bomber spent two years in gitmo

    • Flop_Flipper

      Interesting read. Bulgaria saying the guy was a Swede with ties to Pakistan. Not sure exactly where the link to Iran comes from. Not that I doubt it. I just prefer facts. Especially when the consequences of this action will likely lead to further conflict.

      • Hokma

        The connection is Hezbollah which is the surrogate of Iran. I am certain Israel already has had intelligence that will ultimately connect this guy to Hezbollah.

        The guy actually is of Algerian descent.

        http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/bulgarian-media-name-swedish-citizen-and-former-guantanamo-detainee-as-burgas-suicide-bomber-1.452282

        What was he doing in Pakistan where he was originally picked up and shipped to GITMO?

        Where it will lead that Israel will attack whatever terror cell(s) or camps were responsible for this guy and this attack. I doubt it will be inside Iran. Likely in Lebanon or who knows where these clowns train.

        Iran denying any hand in this is a joke.

      • HoosierinDixie

        I heard he also had a fake Michigan driver’s license. It begs the question how he got it and was able to pass through security channels.

        • TeakWoodKite

          RE: fake ID; was he a legal resident of the US?

          • Flop_Flipper

            I’ve not heard anything along those lines. Much of the story is unknown or biased.

          • HoosierinDixie

            I haven’t heard anything else regarding the license. I guess they are still trying to piece it together.

  • bbf

    THANKS LARRY! May I have your permission to send this to those writers at the Washington Post who think we are all idiots?

  • Popsmoke

    Larry this administration is still following the Bush doctrine. Just the names have changed. Powell/Clinton, Wolfie/Rice… They have learned absolutely nothing except to instill fear both domestically and internationally for the sake of ego.. There is no foreign policy and Hillary Clinton should be ashamed of herself. While we continue to beat up Obama on the economy (some of it rightfully so) we are still giving this guy a wide pass on foreign affairs. Which he has damaged even worse than our economy.

    However saying that now, how can anyone, including you Larry support Romney who has a foreign affairs, national defense and national security backfield that makes this administration look like Sally Goodieshoes? Don’t tell me Romney is a smart guy either. The crime here is that we are not just voting for the lesser of two evils. We are voting for the same evil just dressed differently.

    By the way for you Iranian fear mongers have a nice read… Talk about a real Gulf of Tonkin false flag…. http://www.fas.org/man/eprint/dod-iran.pdf

  • Hokma

    In the case of Syria as was the case in Libya, we had a lose/lose situation in a civil revolt. Other than for humanitarian purpose I don’t think we have any business getting involved in Syria at all because no matter who wins they will be out enemy. Both sides are our sworn enemy so let them just fight it out and we’ll deal with whomever wins.

  • Hokma

    I’ll take the Israeli’s word for it:

    “Israel has solid information that Hezbollah, in close cooperation with the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) carried out the terror attack in Burgas”
    http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=278116

    There is a radical Muslim community inside Bulgaria that has had ties with Hezbollah.

    Right now Israel is doing the forensics on the scene and a thorough investigation with Bulgaria.

    As far as Iran being a far less violent and less extreme version of Islam than Saudi Arabia. Different? Yes. But less violent and less extreme? No.

    I would not call what goes on in Iran as a less extreme version of Islam and just because they are smart enough to use surrogates and keep their direct fingerprints off actions, I certainly would not call them less violent.

  • jnarvey

    In what sense does Iran promote a “far less extreme, violent version of Islam” than Saudi Arabia or Egypt?

    Was the Hezbollah (Iranian backed) killing in 1983 of 241 American soldiers in Lebanon an example of a less extreme regime?

    Their systematic jailing, rape and torture of religious minorities (not to mention political dissidents) in Iran?

    Their constant “10-Minute Hate”-style rallies where they chant “Death to America”?

    Their arming of genocidal jihadist terrorists in Lebanon and Gaza?

    Please explain.

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      For starters, Iran still allows Christians and Jews to live and worship without being prosecuted. They are prohibited from proselytizing and they do punish Muslim converts to Christianity. However, the Saudis permit nothing. Women can drive cars and participate in Government and Business in Iran. Not in Saudi Arabia. Iran’s version of Islam has nothing akin to the Wahabi extremist view that arose in Saudi Arabia and inspired Al Qaeda. Understand?

      • jnarvey

        Re: “For starters, Iran still allows Christians and Jews to live and worship without being prosecuted.”

        Bwahahaahahahahahaah!

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  • BronwynsHarbor

    Larry, I decided to watch CNN’s Outfront — the reports about Syria were astonishingly different than Fox News.

    They interviewed a Dutch reporter who was right in front of the building hit by the blast. He said that right after the blast, everything appeared completely normal on the street. The Dutchman had footage of the neighborhood — lots of foliage, nicely dressed officers who seemed relaxed, civilians out and about. He only said that he wanted to ask people in the “neighborhood” if they heard a blast, but he isn’t allowed to do that in Syria. Later, Anderson Cooper, who often will hype such a story, buried it towards the end of his newscast.

    Just reporting. I haven’t a clue what’s real and what’s not.

    It’ll be interesting to see if the Bret Baier Special Panel’s unanimity that Assad’s regime will be gone within “hours or days” turns out to be true.

    • shelldoll2

      If this report is true, and a reporter on the ground has no reason to lie as he has video footage, then Mr. Johnson was correct:

      Gulf of Tonkin Part Deux.

  • FormerLiberal9

    A curse on both their houses, there are no friends of America in the Syrian Civil War. Whats wrong with minding our own business in this matter. If our enemies want to kill each other I’ll buy a ticket to watch.

    On the Iran vs Israel matter. Israel won’t need an excuse to attack Iran when they are ready to do so. And Israel will not inform our government when they carry out the attack. Iran may not pose a big threat to the US but Israel cannot ignore their threats like our POTUS.

    • KenoshaMarge

      I couldn’t agree more! We have no business sticking our noses into a civil war. Yes people are dying. Killing each other is what they do in the Middle-East.

      I am sorry for the innocents who die. They are always the ones who suffer the most. But the combatants, on both sides? Not so much.

      I don’t believe that the rebels are fighting for their freedom. Unless it’s the freedom to impose their ideology on the people of Syria.

      I don’t know all the ins and outs politically but I know enough to be convinced that there are no good guys in this fight. Just other guys. JMO

  • HoosierinDixie

    Larry can you please give us some insite into what role the Russians are or are trying to play in the region?

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      The Rooskies simply understand the concept of power and what their interest is. They do not want to see a spread of religious extremism of the type supported by the Saudis and Egyptians. Syria is an old friend and Russia is not going to throw them under the bus. In addition, Russia has faced these kinds of uprisings in Georgia and does not want to set a precedent of allowing the UN to dictate internal security matters.

      • lola828

        The Russians must be careful, as if they chose the wrong side regarding Syria they will have lost the entire Middle East.

        • TeakWoodKite

          The Russians want what they want and are adapt at the long game, us not so much.
          They will not relenquish the mil-ports they have.

      • HoosierinDixie

        Thanks for the info Larry. Is it accurate to say their concept of power and interest also includes a concerted effort in undermining our influence in the region with our allies? For example, I recently saw a headline saying the town of Bethlehem was actually going to name a street after Putin. I didn’t have time to read the article but I immediately thought it was a slap in the face to our Nobel Prize winning president (snark). Considering Obama’s cool reception toward israeli officials and their security concerns these last few years, it is not hard to imagine a shift in alliances. Am I reading into this this too much or is it a possibility we are being punked and are smartest president evah is playing right into their hands?

        • Hokma

          Bethlehem is under the control of the Palestinian Authority – not Israel.

          • HoosierinDixie

            Well that explains alot. I stand corrected. I guess that will teach me to read the article before jumping to conclusions.

  • Flop_Flipper

    AP is reporting that the rebel commander took credit. Is he aligned with Al Qaeda?

    Syria’s rebel commander, Riad al-Asaad, claimed responsibility, saying his rebel forces planted a bomb in the room and detonated it. All those involved in carrying out the attack are safe, he said.

  • HELENK2

    from everything I have read there is NO good outcome for our country. Both sides are no really in our best interest. It is like bad and worse.
    the backtrack bunch has not really backed any group that has been good for this country or their own.
    I am sure the women of Egypt and , Libya must want to throw shoes at this bunch.
    I hope we can stay out of the whole mess, but backtrack needs something to use to get reelected and sending troops to battle is usually a good ploy.

    • buzzlatte3

      I know, the man is shameful and shameless. We need adults in the room now.

  • lola828

    Another bullshit comment by Larry Johnson. Can you actual ever support anything you say. Who exactly in the Obama admin is cheerleading? Only people cheerleading are your buddies on FOX. Nice calling it a terrorist attack. What do you call a Dictator violently suppressing his people? We do not even know the true details of the attack, only conflicting details. Hard to believe you were once in intelligence. Try watching the BBC or Al Jazeera instead of FOX for your information. You are so far out of the loop these days.

    • buzzlatte3

      What do I call a dictator suppressing HIS? people? Obama.

    • scottymac54

      You’re wrong on this, just because neither you or Obama is in a position to indemnify the Syrian people against whoever is to succeed Assad, and the fate of whomever they prevail over, in the wake of what already has been a bloody civil war.
      There have been reports of our special forces being involved in this, almost from the start…I remember commenting on them, while you, and all other Obama supporters remained silent. Why? You can’t really invoke the “blame the media” meme, when those very sources were simpatico with your stated political goals and views.
      Do you stop being antiwar, only when it’s YOUR dictator of choice, that is presiding over the carnage?
      Is it only interventionism, when the neocons use it?

      • buzzlatte3

        Que up “It’s Bush’s fault!” in 3..2…1..

        • Popsmoke

          Well yeah it kind of Bush’s fault….

      • shelldoll2

        What you said.

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      Let’s follow what passes for “thinking” in that empty bowl you call a skull. So I refer to Fox as pushing “delusional horseshit” and you insist that I believe Fox for my “information.” You are a total moron. The Administration itself pushed the line that Assad’s rule is untenable. He ain’t leaving because you or Obama want him too. We destroyed the city of Fallujah to wipe out the same kind of people Assad is going after. I don’t recall you protesting that asshole.

      • lola828

        Your claim that the Obama administration is cheerleading this attack, but there is no evidence the Admin is cheerleading. They no doubt want more democracy in Syria, but there is no indication that they want a violent overthrowing of Assad.

        In fact, it has been the Obama Adminstration that has been pretty clear and forceful about not supplying the opposition with weapons. It is your buddies McCain and your party the Republican who have been talking about arming the opposition.

        You and Scotty (below) have no idea what my thoughts are on Syria. I am just pushing back against your constant bullshit and you turning everything into an opportunity to trash Obama and you doing it with zero facts and evidence to support your ridiculous viewpoints.

        You only ever quote FOX on NQ. You clearly constantly get your information from FOX, even if you disagree with what a few say on there sometimes.

        By the way it is still not clear how this attack was carried out and by who (suicide bomber or remote control bomb, etc.) and by who. There is very different information coming out from the official Syrian government news agency, from the opposition and from foreign journalists on the ground. It is not even completely clear who has actually been killed, as there are also different claims.

        You write a knee-jerk reaction post based on zero facts, just trying to find some way to blame Obama for something. Very cheap. Your crediblitiy and integrity continues to dwindle away.

        You want to read a blog by someone who actually know what he is talking about, try reading this one:

        “Top Ten Implications of the Damascus Bombing”

        http://www.juancole.com/2012/07/top-ten-implications-of-the-damascus-bombing.html

        “The rein of terror unleashed by the Allawites on the Sunni rebels, using Ghost Brigade death squads, has backfired big time. Many Sunnis formerly allied with the regime have turned on it, including at the highest levels. The defection of the Sunni Tlass family, who had dominated the ministry of defense and regime business interests for decades, is a straw in the wind here.”

        “The fall of the Baath regime in Syria would leave Hizbullah high and dry. Its rockets and other weapons, and some of its communications and code-breaking abilities, depended on Syrian help. The leader of the Hizbullah Shiites of south Lebanon (a neighbor of Syria), Hassan Nasrullah, gave a speech Wednesday unapologetically supporting the Baath regime and sending condolences to the families of those killed. If the regime does fall, the new government is likely to have a grudge with Hizbullah for a while. The downside of any weakening of Hizbullah is that it could encourage Israeli expansionism in South Lebanon, as in the 1980s and 1990s (Israel’s leaders have long wanted to steal the water in south Lebanon’s rivers).”

        It is not as simple as you are attempting to portray on NQ with your bullshit comparisons to Fallujah and calling this oppposition revolt simple acts of terrorism.

        • Hokma

          “there is no evidence the Admin is cheerleading”

          Yes there was. There was a sighting of Valerie Jarret with pom poms in front of the Oval Office.

          “You and Scotty (below) have no idea what my thoughts are on Syria.”

          Sure they do. It’s whatever theirs is not.

          “It is not even completely clear who has actually been killed, as there are also different claims.”

          In fact there is no credible evidence that anything happened at all. You should ask for a “credible link.” Maybe there was no explosion at all. Maybe it was all done in right wing film studio.

          “Your crediblitiy and integrity continues to dwindle away.
          You want to read a blog by someone who actually know what he is talking about, try reading this one:”

          Juan Cole???!!!! Credible???

          You’re a joke. Go back to your Daily Koz Kidz where Juan Cole is a god.

    • Popsmoke

      You do have a point on not knowing the true details of the attack. But where you are off base is also not knowing either side of the attackers….

      BUT….

      Which foreign policy are we following? “The growth of empire” or the “living space”?

  • buzzlatte3

    What about Obama’s phone call with Putin that supposedly took place this afternoon? Does it show weakness and will Obama get us in to something that cannot be backed away from? He’s the last person I want in charge.

    • Hokma

      Apparently Obama called – was put on hold – and then tranferred to a voice message system:

      • TeakWoodKite

        pres 1 for bullshit, press 2 for more bullshit!
        Obama can’t even # out for an operator.