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Occupy Wall Street Carries Out Colorado Attack?

By Larry Johnson on July 20, 2012 at 8:28 AM in Current Affairs

Try this one on for size, and I’m serious. Because the new Batman movie featured the villain as an Occupy Wall Street type, I would not be surprised if police discover that the shooter, now identified as James Holmes, had ties to OWS.

Why?

Because the movie portrays the OWS crowd in a negative vein, I would first look at the possibility that some addled brained 24 year old who was caught up in the OWS movement took it upon himself to strike back against “THE MAN.”

What do you think?

  • getfitnow

    Sorry, people can get squeamish about the
    death penalty if they wish,
    but we need a form of expedited death penalty in cases like these. Where
    the proof is irrefutable. Walk the suspect out of the courtroom and
    draw and quarter him and burn the body parts. ‘Nuf said.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jack-Kolkmeyer/1081903515 Jack Kolkmeyer

    whatever….because of his “ethnicity”, it’s going to be a pile-on….Obama has already responded, of course…this is going to create a great deal of political chaos…

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      Jack,
      How will it “create a great deal of political chaos?”
      Can you elaborate?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jack-Kolkmeyer/1081903515 Jack Kolkmeyer

        Yes, three ways: 1) blame the “whitey” and a new resurgence of racial animosity right in the heat of summer 2) gun control issues…just what Obama wants, and, 3) and related to those,” you see, this is why we need Obama”. Perhaps political “chaos” was not the right word, so let me change that to something more akin to “rancor”…I think this incident is really going to heat things up….just the way Obama wants it.

        • scottymac54

          Thank you for answering the “ethnicity” question for me.
          If the kid was black, IMHO, he was less likely to be associated with the anarchist movement.
          Here comes the next assault weapon ban (and there is, in fact, a UN small arms initiative pending).

          • Flop_Flipper

            With all the investigations into Fast and Furious I don’t think the Obama camp wants to remind people of guns right now. But they do tend to be insane.

            • arabella_trefoil

              Of course they don’t want to remind people of guns right now. Obama, being the selfish SOB that he is, is probably grateful that the horror didn’t take place in Utah.
              Nah, I take it back. Obama is probably too uniformed about the concept of blood atonement and the use of guns for execution of murderers.

  • scottymac54

    Yeah, I just read that. I didn’t even know there WAS an OWS bias on Nolan’s part (I consider all these movies garbage so I’m not up on the Batman “trilogy”).
    When I looked at what I think was his facebook page, I thought I noticed a reference to a Michelle Obama appearance, on 6/20…which probably means nothing, but might indicate political preference (who even knows if it was the same James Holmes?)
    I don’t know. My impression was, that the movement was co-opted and buried, anyway.

  • Roninstia
    • scottymac54

      Well, I’m no fan of the TP….BUT, it doesn’t make much sense, ideologically, for some crazed militia member to attack a movie with THIS message, no?
      Besides, these guys seem to have journalism a bit ass-backwards, because, it’s not like they’re saying, they have such and such anonymous tip, or our source in law enforcement, or anything that would spur a journalist or reporter into this kind of onair discussion…
      They are acting like presstitutes, not the press, LOL!
      They have a desired conclusion they want to reach, and they’re going to do the research they should have done before reporting, ass-backwards, thinking they can avoid litigation or partisan criticism, arousing emotional responses that cannot be recalled, to create a lasting impression about this group or that, LOL!

  • HELENK2
    • scottymac54

      Also, prayers that Diana and family are all right…I’m pretty sure she is from CO, although I don’t know what part.

  • Flop_Flipper

    I don’t know Larry. Unless I see something that offers substantiated proof I’d rather not go there. Yet. Hell, ABC is always attempting to link the guy with the Tea Party.

    Whoever this lunatic is he should be widely condemned regardless of who he may or not be associated with. What causes someone to do something so obviously evil? And why, when his mother was telephoned, did she say that they had the right guy? Apparently there is much more to this story.

    I don’t buy for one minute that someone from the Tea Party did this. OWS….???? But crazy comes in a variety of flavors.

  • lola828

    More knee-jerk moronic commentary from Larry Johnson. You sound like Limbaugh and even he walked back his comments. You are not a serious person and run an unserious website. This website is more and more becoming a comedy website. I expect your NQbot fan club will slap you on the back for this post. It will help with your ego.

  • HELENK2

    http://www.breakingnews.com/

    this website updates news by the minute

  • win43

    I very much doubt that there is any political connection to this horrible act, and i think it’s silly to draw one — even if the shooter did align himself with one side or the other, in his own head.

    Crazy people are crazy, and subjects of their mania are not to blame; nobody blames Jodie Foster for the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan.

    • Flop_Flipper

      I think it is silly to draw any conclusion until we have the facts.

  • win43

    Wow, since when has this site been deleting comments that criticize it?

    • scottymac54

      I thought the same thing the other day, it came up ten minutes later.
      This is a new version of disqus, they have only moved to, very recently.

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      I reserve the right to delete stupid ass comments. I don’t agree with your comments but you do them, normally, in an appropriate way. Understand?

      • win43

        So… you delete comments that criticize you, while leaving up comments implying that these murders are the result of a leftist conspiracy to discredit the Tea Party; apparently the former is “stupid ass” and the latter is not. “Unserious” indeed.

        Whatever, enjoy your echo chamber.

        • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

          Then go elsewhere, asshole. No one put a goddamn gun to your head and forced you to read or make a comment. Until you start paying my goddamn bills you do not get a vote.

          • win43

            I’m not telling you how to do your business. I’m just laughing at you.

            • buzzlatte3

              Laugh in your own echo chamber. No one takes you seriously anyway.

            • shelldoll2

              I’m just agreeing with Mr. Johnson. As we used to say: Don’t let the door hit your ass on your way out.

              I am saddened for the dead, wounded and their families.

              You? You want to make a snide gotcha point.

              Any murderous dictator from the beginning of time would have loved you. Your ideology trumps all feeling for your fellow human beings.

              BTW if you disagree with me you’re a racist. If it’s true for Obama it’s more true for me. Unlike him I’m a descendant of slaves.

      • lola828

        Larry Johnson has no balls. He cannot take the heat. He throws plenty of shit, but cannot take the push back.

  • win43

    Yeah, “pre-planned,” definitely. Zero doubt in my mind that George Soros put this whole thing together. That’s by far the most credible interpretation I’ve heard so far.

  • HELENK2

    https://twitter.com/denverpost

    twitter from denver post should have more info

  • Eyes Wide Open

    Yes, Soros seems to be everywhere and none of it good

  • HELENK2
    • Flop_Flipper

      Yeah, this wasn’t just some crazy person that suddenly got a wild hair up his ass and decided to go on a killing spree. This was well thought out and planned. And comments by his mother lead me to suspect that she knew he was a loose cannon on a mission. But I only know what has been reported and it varies from news outlet to the other, and what is developing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sevenrenner Joseph J Renner

    That has got to be the dumbest shit I’ve heard all week.

  • scottymac54

    I am furious about this. It is completely irresponsible (and that’s why we cannot afford to have any faith in our own institutions, anymore).

    • Flop_Flipper

      The Tea Party should unload on ABC. Figuratively speaking, of course.

      • scottymac54

        Even more revealing, will be the deafening silence from establishment GOP pols, who will wait until they are ABSOLUTELY sure, this character can’t be linked to any Tea Party or Patriot movement.
        Then they’ll fall over themselves denouncing the media, just like they’d fall over themselves declaring the shooter an “outlier” or some other such nonsense, if the situation were reversed.

  • Flop_Flipper

    From your link:

    There are many people with the name “James Holmes” in the area, and the James Homes on the Tea Party website could match a James Homes from Aurora, CO who is in his fifties and therefore does not fit the description of the suspect.

    More evidence that Ross, Stephanolpoulos and
    ABC rushed to blame the Tea Party without confirmation that the suspect is also the Tea Party member.

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  • HARP2

    The James Holmes for whom Breitbart News has obtained documentation is
    25 years old (the suspect has been reported as 24 years old). He has
    links to addresses in both Colorado and San Diego, where his mother has
    been reported to be from, according to news reports. He was issued a
    traffic citation in 2011–his sole run-in with the law. The same is true
    for the suspect arrested in connection with the shootings, according to
    reports. Update: Fox News reports that the suspect has a
    California-issued social security number, as does the man in the
    documents obtained by Breitbart News–a significant correlation,
    assuming the sources are independent.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2908663/posts

    • Hokma

      Just read that the perep had dropped out of medical school for no apparent reason.

      • scottymac54

        That’s a shame. But (unfortunately for me, because I was a supporter of the OWS movement) this animal’s profile stinks of, mostly likely someone on the left, or maybe even a mind-control patsy.
        Yet, media sources are continuing to use the term “lone wolf”, which is code for “right-wing”, “patriot”, “militia”, etc.

        • Hokma

          It proves there is too much 24/7 cable news and these people have to find a convenient political excuse for everything. I saw something that he was a registered Democrat. I don’t think it has anything to do with this.

          I think it is simply a case of severe mental health problems that probably could have been addressed long before this but generally get ignored because people don’t want to get involved or be bothered. Even parents can be disconnected from their kids and sometimes unintentionally at a critical time. So they are unaware.

          Something must have snapped during this guy’s life for him to get to this horrific point.

          • buzzlatte3

            The dem angle gives a glimpse into Holmes’ line of thinking – don’t think it doesn’t. I’ll leave the rest of it to Krauthammer to label the guy a certifiable mental case. But, it very much does play in.

        • buzzlatte3

          I hope that support for OWS is in the past.

          • trixta

            Scottymac54, don’t you think OWS was concocted to not only divert blame for the bad economy from BO, but as a set up for BO’s current Bain campaign strategy? As BO recently said, it’s all about the narrative.

            • buzzlatte3

              Yeah, unfortunately people that gravitate towards destructive groups tend not to have given much thought to the real story behind the shiny objects facade.

            • scottymac54

              No. I think the movement was directly co-opted, in a premeditated fashion, for the very reason you touch on, to serve as a bulwark against the opposition.
              But that strategy backfired, because they wildly overestimated the popularity of the movement, and underestimated its inaccessability (remember, at the onset, it was strictly about the bankers, and abuses therein).
              Chicago then thought they could graft all manner of issues to create a new, vague, all-purpose agenda, but then the movement became striated, and self-destructed (this is after having paid out millions to paper orgs, corrupt union opportunists, media, etc. to keep it going).
              The next stage for them is to use them in ways I haven’t quite figured out yet….but I can see it is disruption of some sort.
              I’m POSITIVE that they’ll be used for whatever Godforsaken plans they can (never let a crisis go to waste, you know) during the conventions. And the ones that rejected OWS from the beginning, white ethnic blue-collar conservative-leaning Dem partisans, and the predominantly black public-service workers, will be leaned on, very leaned on, to respectively be the muscle at the polls, and the vote fraudsters shipped around on buses on Election Day.
              That’s my take on it. And yes, Barky’s team and the powers that be, are definitely capable of turning on their own countrymen this way.
              This is the way Communist-based policies are phased in.
              We no longer have the luxury of assuming the worst-case scenario is not materializing.

          • scottymac54

            Why? I support many of OWS’s goals and ideas.
            If America isn’t big enough for both OWS and the Tea Partiers, I would absolutely want OWS to prevail.
            Just because I’m strongly opposed to Obama, NWO agendas, and this false left-right paradigm that dominates life in this country, doesn’t mean I support Barky’s controlled opposition, because I don’t.
            I hate conservatism.
            Nonetheless, it exists.

        • FormerLiberal9

          “… this animal’s profile stinks of, mostly likely someone on the left…”

          It’s too early to know anything like that. We are better off just concentrating on the victims and their families. Say some prayers if you are so disposed.

  • HARP2

    COLORADO KILLER – Possible Democrat – Was a “Quiet & Easygoing” Former Medical Student

    The Colorado Shooter is a possible registered Democrat.

    Despite this: Rush Limbaugh, the Tea Party and guns have already been blamed for the massacre.

    The University of Colorado Medical School says shooting suspect was
    student there but withdrew last month. Suspect James Holmes described
    himself on a rental application
    as a ‘quiet and easygoing’ medical student.

    There is an email account listed at the University of Colorado for Doctoral Student James Holmes.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/07/colorado-shooter-leftwing-anti-flag/

    • Flop_Flipper

      Breitbart is all over this. Love it.

  • Flop_Flipper

    I’m going to surprise a lot of you and say that I think Obama did the right thing today. I actually watched it. Don’t worry, I took precautions first. Plenty of antacids and a garbage can close just instead. But I did find it amusing that he had to look down to his notes while asking everyone for a moment of silence. I also could have sworn I saw thought bubbles out to the side while he had his head bowed. Like I could tell he was figuring how he was going to make up for this inconvenience tragedy with another fundraiser. Call me insensitive but I swear I thought I saw them.

    • scottymac54

      Me, too. It wasn’t horrendous like so many of his other speeches, but he STILL has that flat-affect, emotionless thing going on.
      MK Ultra? Seroquel? I have no clue.
      What was with the audience? Doesn’t anyone know how to act anymore?

      • arabella_trefoil

        Benzos.

    • arabella_trefoil

      Only a moment of silence? It would be a more meaningful tribute to the people of Aurora if Obama pledged an hour of silence. Or better yet, took a vow of eternal silence.

      • Flop_Flipper

        I second that emotion.

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  • foxyladi14

    Another reason for Obama to take our guns away.

    This is very sad.but there are nut cases out there..

    • arabella_trefoil

      No, just take our movie theaters away.

      • scottymac54

        It’s the Raisinettes. They are bath salts, in disguise.

      • buzzlatte3

        Nah, it was time that Hollywood be given a trip to the woodshed…just not in this manner. Feeling like the OWS summer of love has come to an abrupt end – just like the one in the sixties with the Manson Murders.

  • HELENK2

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/1-suspect-arrested-denver-area-mass-shooting

    shooter dropped out of medical school a month ago

  • scottymac54

    http://www.infowars.com/flashback-alex-jones-predicted-dark-knight-rises-would-cause-trouble/
    I was surprised by Jones’ take on this movie, done prior to the shooting.
    His trip is that these movies generally push a message of helplessness and reliance, which runs counter to how we’re seeing it described in media reports this morning.
    Watson makes the case for not instinctively blaming guns, but to look first at our death-obsessed popular culture.

  • Flop_Flipper

    Since Obama is going to start to campaign again tomorrow I think I’ve figured out how he thinks he can make this tragedy work for him. I bet he gives a self-serving great speech and says something like this: If I had another daughter, Aurora would be her name.

    • scottymac54

      Better yet, the shooter’s defense will be, “I did not booby-trap my own apartment myself, it was like that when I took possession of it…..”

      • Flop_Flipper

        Or: “I didn’t build that booby trap. Somebody else did.”

        • buzzlatte3

          I have the feeling that Obama’s words about “you didn’t build it without help” is going to take on some major new meanings.

      • arabella_trefoil

        He’ll probably sue the landlord to get his rent deposit back too.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Seven-Feathers/100000890874321 Seven Feathers

      He already brought his daughters up in his rally speech today at 1045 am(approx 8 hours after the shooting), babbling something about if they were in the theater, blah blah blah. Too bad Romney beat him to his own Personal address hours earlier, not in front of Romney supporters at a rally.

    • HARP2

      He has already done that……..“I’m sure that many of you who are parents here have the same reaction
      that I did when I heard this news. My daughters go to the movies. What
      if Malia and Sasha had been at the theater, as so many of our kids do
      every day?

      I`ll bet they are writing his speech for the memorial right now.

      • Flop_Flipper

        Wow, I’m truly stunned. I was just kidding. Sorta.

      • trixta

        No doubt, BO will also hand out campaign T-shirts with a new slogan during the memorial service.

      • arabella_trefoil

        What kind of parent are you, Barry? Your kids go to the movies “every day” no doubt eating fattening snacks and drinking sugary soft drinks. Why aren’t they studying, or playing sports, or learning to play the violin or participating in volunteer activities?
        What kind of movies are they watching? Are they leaving trash all over the floor? Talking on their cell phones? Yelling at the screen to warn the heroine about the murderer hidden under the bed? Taking up two or three seats each so that they can spread out all their stuff?
        I don’t go to the movies any longer, and not because of fear of crazed gunmen. The audiences make the experience unbearable.
        Oh and why must it always be about you and your family? When I heard about this tragedy I did not say “Oh my God, what if Malia and Sasha Obama had been there!”
        But I’ll grant you this – I think your daughters are way tougher than you are. May God protect them, but I bet they’d have reacted heroically in a situation like that. Not like their parents.

  • HoosierinDixie

    Certainly anything is possible. But more than likely we are going to learn of some previous history of diagnosed or undiagnosed mental issues. In this case any attempts to draw conclusions from political ideologies is void. Anything from Mickey Mouse to the Queen of England can become a trigger and those motivations can change from one minute to the next. And just like the tragedy in Arizona, there will be fingerpointing, calls for stricter gun control and more civility but suprisingly no efforts to improve the methods to identify risk factors and get these people help before they can hurt themselves or the general public. My thoughts are with the victim’s families.

    • win43

      Well said.

      I mean, I’ll be among those calling for stricter gun control — I think it’s perfectly appropriate to talk about our gun policy after a gun crime grabs national attention — but nevertheless, well said.

    • buzzlatte3

      Political Correctness – has made institutions and people too afraid to label – even when the symptoms are textbook. I’m not saying Holmes was an example of this – but in the liberal driven zeal to make everyone a victim of some perceived injustice, professionals (read standing up for treatment = law suit ) have been reluctant to get some people proper care. For example the Gabby Giffords shooter. We have been dumbed down to tolerate the lowest denominator as the tail that wags the dog.

      • scottymac54

        I truly believe Giffords was taken out because she was going to start flapping her gums over something “Fast and Furious” related.

        • trixta

          You may be right, but it may be possible that the real target was Federal Judge Roll.

          “Federal Judge John Roll –for Arizona–was killed. And yet he’s only mentioned anywhere as just another victim.
          Here’s the question: Why is there possibly no connection being made that about 72 hours before he was killed, on Friday, he issued a critical “preliminary ruling” against the Obama administration to prevent them from acting on an FDR Executive Order (6102), which allowed the government to seize personal savings when no proof of a crime was committed?
          (“USA v. $333,520.00 in US Currency et al”, Case number: 4:2010cv00703 Filed Nov 30, 2010).” [....]

          http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread652602/pg1

          • buzzlatte3

            Yeah, I’ve always had a feeling that there was much more to that. I’m not a bible beater, but I’ve always surmised that the current administration is a force of darkness.

      • HoosierinDixie

        Unfortunately the laws put in place to protect the civil rights of the mentally ill often stand as a barrier for identification and treatment. The laws vary from one jurisdiction to the next but usually unless the person poses an immediate threat to themselves or others, police will not act. If they do they can only be held involuntarily for 48-72 hours. Anything longer would require a court order.

        • buzzlatte3

          Yup! It’s a direct result of the last intensive 40 years, mostly driven by liberal ideologies, to take labels off of people despite best practices historical fact, or research. It’s endemic in every institution in the US. Common sense and a true model of intervention and management has been largely been shoved into the gutter.

          • HoosierinDixie

            Yes you are right but conservatives are just as guilty. Everyone is under the impression if you bury the problem, it will go away.It has been easier for society to ignore it than deal with it.

            • buzzlatte3

              It was being dealt with at one time. However, there were abuses and instead of cleaning up the abuses, for example in institutions dealing with mental illness, everything went too far. Institutions were dismantled and now we have a complicated process to even entertain proper treatment. Meanwhile, your rights are compromised. Having been in and around certain aspects of the profession for the past 40 years, I hardly think it was conservative professors that pushed the meme in universities or conservative “experts” that caved to PC demands. But that’s just my observation.

              • HoosierinDixie

                I do not speak of mental illness as a professional authority but rather from experience. My brother was officially diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia over 30 years ago. Navigating the system has been a roller coaster ride for my family.I have seen the good and the bad. It is true abuses you mentioned resulted in a hands off approach rather than improving detection and treatment methods and assuring facilities were operating humanely and efficiently. I don’t know what conservative professors are pushing in the classroom.All I know is the system is a mess and no one, liberal or conservative, is doing much to change it.

                • buzzlatte3

                  Try being a conservative professor. It’s worse than it is for gays. Until there’s a balance of ideologies, I’m afraid the libs will always be messing in a system rather than trying to logically improve it.

                  • HoosierinDixie

                    Wow, what subject area? I am glad to hear conservative professors still exist. A different perspective is certainly missing in academia today. It would be great if students were exposed to all viewpoints so they can form their own opinions. The best course I ever took was a history course on the VietNam War. It was co-taught by three professors. One was a card carrying socialist who got caught up in the anti-war movement in the 60′s while working on his doctorate. The second was a silent majority republican and the other was a Vietnam Veteran that hated both of the others.The students were a mix of Vietnam vets, ex-hippies and Nixon supporters. The exchange of ideas was fantastic and you really walked away with a sense that you learned something new.

        • http://twitter.com/TPatPerrysburg TeaPartyatPerrysburg

          Why do you assume he is mentally ill? Was Timothy McVeigh mentally ill? He won a bronze star in Desert Storm which is harder than getting a masters degree. Not every terrorist is mentally ill.

          • HoosierinDixie

            Why do you assume he is not? I don’t assume anything. If you read my first post you will see I said anything is possible but more than likely their will be a previous indication of some mental issues.

      • http://wiskeytangofoxtrotoscar.blogspot.com/ James Ala

        To speak of a “liberal zeal to make everyone a victim” is to reveal a profound ignorance of both mental illness and the reforms in Mental Illness Treatment. I’m old enough to remember the old horror stories that brought on the reforms.

        Unfortunately our present system is a combination of high principle and ghastly underfunding. People don’t fall through cracks, they disappear in the vast crevasses of the system. It is only when the mentally ill pop up to do acts of pointless violence that we even bother to pay attention.

        • scottymac54

          Agree. Good comment.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Seven-Feathers/100000890874321 Seven Feathers

    Is this the same Brian Ross that is making bad reports on Senator Zinke of Montana(retired 21 year SEAL team 6) that just created SOFA PAC for conservatives?
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Special-Operations-for-America/157410154392219

    The name Brian Ross is all over the page attacking everything.

  • trixta

    Doesn’t this all look familiar? Every time BO’s popularity is in the pits something violent happens somewhere to unsuspecting Americans. BO and his surrogates immediately blamed Palin and the TP for the Gabby Giffard shootings although there was absolutely no link. But the point is, after all, to tie this violence by association to BO’s opposition.

    Thank you, Larry, for posting your theory about a more plausible link to the shootings — OWS!

  • HELENK2
    • scottymac54

      “Editor’s Note: An earlier ABC News broadcast report suggested that a Jim Holmes of a Colorado Tea Party organization might be the suspect, but that report was incorrect. ABC News and Brian Ross apologize for the mistake, and for disseminating that information before it was properly vetted…”
      NOT GOOD ENOUGH. ABC needs to explain why their correspondents were LOOKING for a TP (or any non-establishment movement) link, rather than reporting the facts after confirmation.

      • Flop_Flipper

        Exactly. We deserve an explanation for why they didn’t follow standard journalistic practices. I mean this is 101 stuff.

        • trixta

          ”
          EXCLUSIVE: INTERVIEW WITH JAMES MICHAEL HOLMES, HISPANIC TEA PARTY MEMBER FALSELY ACCUSED BY ABC”

          http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/20/Exclusive-Interview-With-James-Michael-Holmes-Colorado-Tea-Party-Member

          • scottymac54

            I actually think Piers Morgan pissed me off more.
            Who the hell is this Brit, telling AMERICANS how our laws need to change?

            • Flop_Flipper

              I may be wrong but I think he is a US citizen now.

              • trixta

                Still….

            • trixta

              I hear ya, Scotty! That moon-faced Brit is an absolute assault to my TV screen and is an utter pill! He’s always preaching to America. How he could have taken over the Larry King spot is beyond me. His ratings are always in the toilet.

            • FormerLiberal9

              Not to mention that he is the most boring personality on TV.

          • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

            In a perverse way, I was pleased that the wrong Mr. Holmes, who is a member of a tea party group; is Latino. Now, if only he was a Democrat…

        • HoosierinDixie

          SOP falls to the wayside during breaking news. They don’t care. They have air time to fill and they want to say later they reported it first.

          • Flop_Flipper

            Well I’ve always considered George Stephanopoulus a little biased but he outdid himself today. There is no way he can’t equally be responsible for this as he was the one that introduced the accusation. I can only desire that karma visit him during his Sunday show. Someone needs to take him down a few pegs for the most despicable yellow journalism. Actually worse than MSNBC in my opinion because Stephie used to be someone at least pretending to be unbiased.

            • HoosierinDixie

              And there lies the problem…. “pretending to be unbiased.” As a journalist It really shouldn’t be an effort especially in times of crisis like this.

              • scottymac54

                To me, this is two strikes out. He was the one who, in the midst of moderating a debate, suddenly trotted out contraception, right to Romney, who basically said, “Is there a problem with the contraception issue? Why don’t we just leave it alone?”
                And Stephanopoulos just smiled. Butter wouldn’t have melted in his mouth…
                Shortly afterward, as if by magic, there’s a big brouhaha from Barky involving birth control, health care coverage, and communities of faith.
                Did they REALLY think they could send their little errand boy out to assert himself in performance, again, this soon, this publicly, and we wouldn’t see exactly what was going on?
                It’s just sickening, and the worst part of it is, there’s nothing for it, virtually nothing we can do, because this is all part of their game, and we can just like it, or lump it.

            • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

              But I still give STephanopoulos credit for that interview with David Axelrod during the 2008 primary season when he caught Axelrod in the lie that he – Axelrod – had not tried to inflame the press about Hillary Clinton’s comments with respect to RFK’s assassination and the D nomination. If you recall, after the denial, Stephanopoulos held up the inflammatory memo Axelrod had delivered to the press..

      • FormerLiberal9

        Well said.

  • HELENK2

    I see people commenting on stricter gun control.
    The guy had no criminal history. Other than a ticket in 2011 no police contract. Was a college student until about a month ago. Was a quiet tenant with no complaints again him.
    no reason legally for him not to be able to get a gun.

    • buzzlatte3

      It’s going to be the channels of how he got the guns – since he has no concealed weapons permit or even a hunting license. Speculation only: but what if a connection is made to OWS or another Fast and Furious. The fact that Breitbart is working on the info that Holmes may have been a registered Democrat is damning enough.

      • Flop_Flipper

        I’m sitting here wishing that the semi-automatic weapon he had came from the Fast and Furious FUBAR. Wouldn’t that be a hoot?

        • buzzlatte3

          A tragic hoot, but it would expose the underbelly of the Obama admin to some very serious daylight.

          • TickedOff

            Suspect’s Guns Were Purchased at Four Gun Stores in Colorado :
            Fox News Channel’s Jennifer Griffin has confirmed through a law enforcement source that James Holmes’s guns were purchased at separate Gander Mountain Guns shops, one in Thornton, CO and one in Aurora, CO. Then, the other guns were purchased at two Bass Pro Shops, both in Denver, CO.
            http://tinyurl.com/86mmj8c

            • buzzlatte3

              Colorado will be reviewing it’s purchasing laws, won’t it?

        • DailyPUMA

          no hoots and no politicizing necessary over the tragedy in Colorado.

          • Flop_Flipper

            Just joking to lighten my own mood. And to counter the insane political nonsense spewing from the sudden swarm of Obots.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mcsole Tim Holland

    funny… after the ghost of andrew breitbart started linking him to occupy, occupy denver members on our discussion groups have been posting pics of this guy to see if anyone knew who he was… no one has ever seen this guy in our lives… so he is not an occupy protestor… “black bloq” is not a “faction” of occupy. it is a tactic used by some people, mostly anarchists, but it is not an organization. you guys can say whatever you want and make whatever currency of this disaster you want, but that doesn’t mean its true. every good anarchist is against gun control….

    • scottymac54

      Thank you very much, for your perspective.

      • buzzlatte3

        So what – It means nothing re: Denver OWS.

    • Flop_Flipper

      What you fail to understand is that OWS is a faction of Black Bloq.

    • HoosierinDixie

      Just out of curiosity, how do you differentiate between a “good anarchist” and a bad anarchist ?

  • Eyes Wide Open

    Oh I agree. And you were correct, Larry went straight to the most probabable connection, when and if the truth ever is revealed.

    • win43

      Yes, it’s highly probabable that this is a leftist plot. Probabably this goes all the way to the top. To the top!

      And by the top, of course, I mean the Illuminati. Who else? But hey, none of it will matter after 12/21/2012, amirite?

      • HARP2

        With the planning and sophisticated booby trapping of his apartment, it shows a reasonable level of intelligence, making the probability of him being a Democrat highly unlikely.

        • win43

          Heh, well played

        • scottymac54

          Ah, but he was a med student and going for his PhD, and we all know that the Republicans are anti-intellectual, and don’t believe in sci……oh, no, that would make him one of my kind, oops, never mind…..:)

        • Flop_Flipper

          Very good point.

        • lola828

          How do you know his apartment was booby- trapped? Lots of conflicting info. Last I heard the police were just saying there was bomb making material in the apartment, but not necessarily any booby-traps.

          • Hokma

            “How do you know his apartment was booby- trapped?”

            You posted this only 3 minutes ago and you are asking this question?Did you follow any the press conferences where the police said it was booby trapped? Why do you think the police have not entered his apartment yet? Do you have any control on just how stupid you appear to others? Just asking.

          • Flop_Flipper

            Then perhaps you should turn on an tv. The Chief of Police of Aurora gave a news conference and said it was booby trapped. The FBI was right there next to him. You are an idiot and your inane response proves it. You are willfully uninformed.

          • FormerLiberal9

            The police put cameras in the apt after the suspect told them the apt was booby trapped.

  • HELENK2
    • scottymac54

      Is this on the level?
      If so, I’m running with my MK Ultra/mind control patsy theory…..

  • HELENK2

    2 Air Force reservists, 1 Navy service member among those wounded in
    Colorado shootings, US Department of Defense officials say – @NBCNews

    will this make it federal and not just a state case??

    • buzzlatte3

      The feds are already involved…makes me think this immediately went larger than lone crazy contained within state lines theories.

      • HoosierinDixie

        I am sure Larry would know but since 9/11 I think any large scale incident such as this would draw the attention of Homeland Security. The initial reports of explosives would fall under ATF. There will be alot of jockeying for jurisdictional authority.

        • buzzlatte3

          Agreed. I’m just hoping the feds are working for us – the citizens.

  • Eyes Wide Open

    Indeed. This is not just a problem of the USA, but it is happening world wide. Here in America we have a small, very small window to make their plans go awry.
    I credit this site with awakening many people, myself included in 2008 and in what happened in the taking back of the House. However some of the people who we think are wearing the white hats may be in disguise. We have to vote and while Romney may not please us totally we also know the danger that is not even hidden anymore.

    • win43

      Hahahaha, classic NQ. These are the flies you attract with this flavor of honey….

      Never change, NQ. Too much fun.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/N4NSPJQH5LFRMKI5SRWCLYMQWU Aaron

      I actually have been debating recently on whether I planned to even vote for president this election because I am so fed up with politics and I just hope for checks and balances. But, when ABC was so quick to connect the incident to the Tea Party I’ve decided I must do my part to vote Obama out of office.

      • Eyes Wide Open

        Agree with you on that.
        Has anyone seen the news account of there being possibly another shooter? There was a u tube video of witness and it was in a local news report.
        Also pictures/and video of Holmes possibly being in a still picture and video of OCC San Diego. Not sending the links because they may be pure speculation. Net search will probably turn them up.
        I thought all exits opened OUT. How could he kick in that door? Reports of him buying a ticket and going in earlier and proping the door open and leaving and returning seem strange., Did he show ID when he bought the ticket? Pay with credit card? Caught on camera? Why did no one near the exit door notice it proped open?

  • scottymac54

    I’m sure they’ll be a totally logical, intelligent response from the government from this.
    Naked body scanners at the supermarkets and malls?
    TSA searches at the local multiplex?

    • shelldoll2

      How about we all just show up naked and save them the trouble? Works for me.

      • buzzlatte3

        LOL!

      • Hokma

        Don’t say that too loud – Mayor Bloomers in NYC might pick up on it and add it to banning 32 oz. soft drinks.

      • FormerLiberal9

        Not a good idea think about all those naked rear ends on the seats. Who would want to go and sit in a theater.

        • shelldoll2

          Plastic covers required. then we can hear that sweet sucking sound and the few Ouches when the skin hits the fan.

    • samb1

      Great now I will get a dose of radiation,
      as I buy my organic vegetables.

  • HELENK2
  • Eyes Wide Open

    It was Brian Ross from ABC. So it probably is. I seldom watch TV and get my information on things from sites like this.

  • Retired_from_SPOnaj

    Wow, Larry! Is it a slow day? Normally, you don’t engage in this type of almost completely baseless speculation. Or are you just stirring the pot? You certainly have triggered some intriguing responses.
    I think that the one thing that can be said from the facts that have been reported is that this guy has a serious psychological disorder that caused him to transfer the intellect and focus that he had apparently been applying toward his academic studies to the planning and conduct of this horrific act of violence. In other words, it is fairly certain that the guy went bonkers. But I don’t see any compelling evidence as to what his motivation was. For all we know, it could’ve been a date laughing at his pathetically limp weiner (sorry, Anthony!).
    I think that I’ll reserve judgement on this until I see more facts.

    • trixta

      Tell that to ABC.

      • getfitnow

        ABC’s Brian Ross should be fired immediately. The MSM pulls
        this kind of crap all the time. I don’t want to hear their corrections,
        apologies or excuses.

        • Flop_Flipper

          I agree. He should go. Pronto.

  • samb1
  • getfitnow

    I was in the laundromat this morning when POTUS made his speech. It originally was a campaign event, but given the turn of events, his staff should have instructed the audience–No Clapping! It really did cheapened the message. Actually the president should have said something as it happened several time. And at the end, they were cheering. WTF?

  • shelldoll2

    Now it’s not about a lone nut gunman. It’s about the second amendment and why law abiding citizens don’t need guns. I heard a military person and an eyewitness confirm that during Katrina that once guns were taken by local law enforcement men came to those same homes later and women were raped. Some repeatedly.
    Unless and until the US Constitution is amended one crazy person can’t overturn it.

    Serial killers use strangulation, knives, poisons, drowning, heavy objects etc.

    Shall we outlaw all and any objects that can be used for those crimes?

    Murderous nuts will always find a way to kill their victims.

    • HoosierinDixie

      I agree Shelldoll. A gun just happened to be the weapon of choice in this case. Interesting enough, I heard from CNN that the usual suspects in Congress that advocate gun control have been strangely silent because there are alot of pro-gun people in the swing states. It is afterall an election year. It will be interesting to see how long they can resist the urge to rant and what the fallout will be.

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  • foxyladi14

    Tragic.

  • HELENK2
  • lola828

    Another classy post by Larry Johnson. You are not a serious person nor run a serious website.

    • HARP2

      And yet you keep coming back…………like jock itch.

      • shelldoll2

        More like lice.

        • buzzlatte3

          LOLa is really flexing it’s brain today! OOOHHH, we’re scared and admonished! NOT! I’ve heard better stuff from 8 year olds on the playground.

    • Hokma

      Do you have any evidence of that? Can you provide a credible link? How do you define “classy post”
      – one of those Daily Koz hate posts? And how do you define a “serious website?” Can you give examples of a serious websites and evidence that you have more than air between your ears?

  • foxyladi14
    • getfitnow

      Presidential.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/N4NSPJQH5LFRMKI5SRWCLYMQWU Aaron

      Not one uhh…uhh….ahh… in the whole speech.

  • HELENK2
  • stodghie

    dang larry i was wondering that! thanks for your post.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=740240067 Mike Levens

    I think you’re reaching. And I think what you’re reaching for says a lot about you.

  • GeminiRising

    We have a broken mental health system is this country. There are so many people running around untreated when they have serious mental disorders. It takes an act of congress sometimes to get someone committed and the public is only safe as long as that patient is institutionalized, which isn’t long is most cases.
    The shooter’s mother told authorities when she heard the news that she wasn’t surprised. I’d like to know what she meant and I’m sure it will come out in the coming days.

    • Hokma

      I agree with you 100%.

      Mental illness is an illness like another other illness and should be as accepted as any other illness – not demonized.

      But unfortunately that starts at home and many parents do not want to be ostracized by friends and neighbors so if they feel their kid had mental health problems they just ignore them and believe their kid will grow out of it.

      When something like happens people end up blaming it on the weapons and never the cause. This could have been prevented. Virginia Tech could have been prevented.

      • HoosierinDixie

        As of now we don’t know if the parents were aware so we can’t say for sure they just ignored it. Since she was a registered nurse, I am betting she knew or suspected but was powerless to do anything about it. Paranoid schizophrenia for example manifest itself in the late teens or early twenties. The signs are often mistaken for typical teenage rebellious behavior such as drugs, drinking or just withdrawing from family. By the time it is well established the parents lack legal parental control because they have reached adulthood. We need a better system for detection and treatment and that would also require changes in the law.

        • Hokma

          I have known too many situations where parents were too wrapped up in their own lives to be concerned about their kids especially their mental health issues.

          I really do think we should treat mental health the way we treat all physicial health issues. If you have a child that has a highly contageous illness do you send them to school so that can get others infected? Kids who are socially withdrawn are likely to be harboring some mental illness that needs to be exposed and properly dealt with.

          The more i hear about this kid, even going back to high school he exhibted troubling behavior that could hav e been dealt with.

          • HoosierinDixie

            I am ceratinly not saying some people don’t ignore the signs. I am saying getting them the help they need is alot harder then you think because of the law. A mentally ill person can refuse treatment and meds just as well as any other person unless there is a court order. The majority of the time, if they are not an immediate danger to themselves or others, the authorities will not act. I haven’t heard the specifics of his teen years but I don’t doubt your assertion there were signs.

        • akaPatience

          I agree with you Hoosier. I know two families who have members that are paranoid schizophrenics and it’s an agonizing, frustrating and heartbreaking problem to deal with. I’m sorry to hear you have a brother who suffers from it.
          I used to be a social worker during the period when mental institutions were shut down, which led to a sharp rise in homelessness. Of course not all mentally ill people present a danger to society, but many of them have a very difficult time taking care of themselves and maintaining a place of residence.

          • HoosierinDixie

            Thank you so much for your kind words. And yes the vast majority are more of a danger to themselves than others.

  • JohnnyTwoDog

    The shooter obviously planned this for some time, had knowledge of the script and Batman literary history.
    He went so far as to call himself the Joker, with a smirk for his mugshot.
    He definately planned and targeted this venue. A sicko that is ready to kill can find a crowd every day and certainly every weekend. Something in BNR had the killer wait and plot.
    An OWS motive is very plausible

  • alicewolf

    Yeah, it’s OWS, weren’t they fixing LIBOR and laundering drug money to finance Al Qaeda and throwing tomatoes at Hillary Clinton in Cairo on her way to the airport in her motorcade?
    Yeah, that’s it. OWS can now be safely blamed for everything that’s going wrong and sinking civilization alright.
    Never mind the fact that the tone that is being set in Washington from the top down is causing for the entire nation and it’s economy to degerate at an unimaginable speed.
    Blaming people is all very well, but getting ourselves out of a bad situation is really what is required. How about passing HR 1489 The Return to Prudent Banking Act to cut off the bailouts and then reestablish a national bank in the US to handle credit uttered by congress as per the Hamiltonian concept immortalized in the Preamble and the Constitution.
    Followed by a New Bretton Woods fixed exchange rate enactment and the implementation of NAWAPA as a leading infrastructure platform project that will put six million US citizens back to work. etc etc. Where is Yul Brunner when you need him…………………….Oh I know, perhaps he’s joining OWS and on his way to desecrate a church. Sorry to be so sarcastic but this desperate attempt to revulse people that is so obviously part of a bigger plan that may be unfolding before our very eyes, that I am trying to expose the thinking behind this latest folly. It’s too much of a coinkidink, the bus in Belgrade, the bombing in Damascus and the gunman in the movie theatre, it looks like the hat trick to me.

  • alicewolf

    Sorry, DEGENERATE is what I should have said in the midst of that last tirade. Please forgive me for my terrible spelling.

  • Malcolm_Reynolds

    Even if it were true, what are the odds that the media outlets will even cover that little inconvenient factoid? Zilch IMHO.

  • http://wiskeytangofoxtrotoscar.blogspot.com/ James Ala

    I think you could not be more wrong Larry.

    First OWS stresses no-violent change. Yes there are fringe characters (mostly Anarchists) who trash property but they are no more a reflection of OWS than the few yahoo who did not spell-check their signs at TEA Party rallies.

    Second this guy was a loner. He had ties to almost no one, a real fringe person.

    Last in his last four months, the shooter became, of his own volition, even more separated from the populace. No one can guess what was percolating in his brain at the time of the assault. First reports have him dying his hair and calling himself “The Joker” for what that is worth.

    This guy appears to be more in the line of Hinkley, the man who shot Reagan for his own very bizarre reasons. I seriously doubt he had any political agenda to speak of.

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