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Obama Really in the Dark on Syria (UPDATE FOR THE FOOL LOLA)

Boy, no sooner had I written about Obama’s complete cluelessness on what to do with Syria, then the Washington Post provides devastating confirmation that the Obama Administration is making policy without a shred of solid intelligence. The level of ignorance is staggering. They do not have good intelligence on what is going on inside Syria.

Sixteen months into the uprising in Syria, the United States is struggling to develop a clear understanding of opposition forces inside the country, according to U.S. officials who said that intelligence gaps have impeded efforts to support the ouster of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

U.S. spy agencies have expanded their efforts to gather intelligence on rebel forces and Assad’s regime in recent months, but they are still largely confined to monitoring intercepted communications and observing the conflict from a distance, officials said.

Interviews with U.S. and foreign intelligence officials revealed that the CIA has been unable to establish a presence in Syria, in contrast with the agency’s prominent role gathering intelligence from inside Egypt and Libya during revolts in those countries.

As I pointed out in my piece yesterday (Obama Still Doesn’t Get It on Syria), Obama and his “crack” national security team are backing the move to oust Assad without a goddamn clue about who comprises said opposition.

I know for a fact, without the benefit of having to rely on the CIA, that part of the opposition–the most lethal part I must add–consists of individuals with direct ties to Al Qeada in Iraq. How do I know? Simply look at the techniques and tactics being employed by the Assad opposition. They mirror the techniques and tactics used against us in Iraq by the Sunni elements we labled as “Al Qaeda in Iraq.”

I am not some teary eyed tree hugger who believes that we only need to give the world a Coke and teach them to sing in perfect harmony. I am a realist. Yes, Assad is a son of a bitch, but at least he allows Christians and Sunnis to hold power in his Government. That would not be the case with the hardline Sunnis leading the push to oust Assad and his regime. So, in the interest of maintaining a counter-balance to the rise of Sunni extremism, I would tolerate and even embrace the regime of Bashir Assad. Better the Devil we know.

I am sad to say that Secretary Clinton has bought into this nonsense and is helping Obama try to cobble together international pressure to force Assad to resign. But Assad has the backing of the Russians and the Chinese, who have told us, properly so, to fuck off.

Civil wars are a fact of human history. We had a bloody episode ourselves, which was far more deadly and brutal than anything we have seen yet in Syria. If we are going to interfere in Syria then we better have a plan in place for what follows in the aftermath of Assad. Hope is not a policy. And you cannot make sound policy without good intelligence. We have virtually no good intelligence, as reported in the Washington Post, about who is in control of the opposition and what is the extent of their influence inside Syria. What we do know (and Obama and his team are ignoring) is that a significant element in the opposition hold the same beliefs and goals espoused by the likes of Osama Bin Laden.

Bringing back Bin Laden is the practical effect of Obama’s bizarre Syrian policy.

UPDATE–Who knew that I control the content of the NY Times. In contrast to the hysterical protests of the Obamabot, who writes under the name of LOLA828, looks the NY Times confirms my analysis is spot on:

It is the sort of image that has become a staple of the Syrian revolution, a video of masked men calling themselves the Free Syrian Army and brandishing AK-47s — with one unsettling difference. In the background hang two flags of Al Qaeda, white Arabic writing on a black field.
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“We are now forming suicide cells to make jihad in the name of God,” said a speaker in the video using the classical Arabic favored by Al Qaeda.

The video, posted on YouTube, is one more bit of evidence that Al Qaeda and other Islamic extremists are doing their best to hijack the Syrian revolution, with a growing although still limited success that has American intelligence officials publicly concerned, and Iraqi officials next door openly alarmed. . . .

The evidence is mounting that Syria has become a magnet for Sunni extremists, including those operating under the banner of Al Qaeda. An important border crossing with Turkey that fell into Syrian rebels’ hands last week, Bab al-Hawa, has quickly become a jihadist congregating point.

Are all Obama supporters really as stupid as LOLA828, or is he/she an aberration? Like shooting fish in a barrel. To repeat my previous message–Obama and team are lost on the matter of Syria and are enabling the rise of the Sunni extremists, who are eager to oust Bashir Assad. Simple.

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  • Flop_Flipper

    I just don’t get why what is happening in Syria is so damned important to the USA. To me it is a distraction from our own problems and I see no win-win strategy in any of it. The civil war in Syria is as much about religion as it is the abuse power.

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    http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/good-mideast-dictators-robert-d-kaplan

    an interesting article on the changes taking place in the ME and how will Washington deal with them

  • FormerLiberal9

    American Intelligence may be having difficulties with gathering information in Syria but I would bet that Mossad knows exactly what is going on in Syria. Unfortunately I think that the Israeli govt. no longer trusts the CIA or the American Govt. to share that intelligence.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/22/netanyahu-rock-solid-about-iran-hezbollah-terror-connection-mum-on-november/

    Note what Netanyahu says about 5:45 on the video. He says that, “Israel will share the proof that Hezbollah was responsible for the attack in Bulgaria with appropriate Intelligence Agencies”. Then he empathized. ” with FRIENDLY INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES”. Is this a hint that Israel no longer considers American Agencies as Friendly because the Obama administration doesn’t seem to be privy to the proof.

    Will Great Brittan, Saudi Arabia and others join the list of allies who no longer consider the United States as trustworthy. How long will it take to reestablish Friendly relations after leaks from this White House.

  • Flop_Flipper

    Love that the update headline is all caps.

  • Fred82

    I totally agree.

    It doesn’t matter that much how many of the opposition fighters in Syria are secular and how many are devout Sunni Islamist.

    A genuine al Qaida operative is probably worth many FSA grunts and/or Syrian military personnel with regards to capacity to inflict damage.

    Moreover, one of al Qaida’s primary missions is to train and advise jihadists. There are plenty of young men in Syria and bordering nations for al Qaida to provide training to.

    Lastly, Saudi and Qatari meddling in Syria is certain to ensure that the number of Sunni Islamists in Syria gets larger, not smaller.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      And, while AQ is training them, they are spotting, assessing, developing and recruiting the most promising Syrian trainees as their clandestine intelligence and covert action agents for subsequent use as they rise in the new Syrian government. AQ aren’t Boy Scouts (and neither are we).

      • Fred82

        Most definitely.

        Generally speaking, I have found al Qaida to be better at HUMINT than we are. Much better. In the world of intelligence, al Qaida are definitely not amateurs and are true students of the game.

        At the moment, I would also say that al Qaida is better at subversion and political manipulation than we are. This probably has a lot to do with the fact that al Qaida thinks in 10-20 year plans while we plan from election to election cycle (Currently we don’t even seem able to do that.)

        I am not intending to say that al Qaida and Co. are supermen or unstoppable phantasmic ghouls. However, they do have a solid, workable strategy (Bleed US to bankruptcy) and make every effort to know their enemy. That and al Qaida fighters are more than a match for the ANA, ANP, Syrian military, Pakistanis, and Yemenis.

        Of course we did quite a bit to bankrupt ourselves, often with absolutely no involvement of al Qaida. Al Qaida could be blamed for the costs of the 9/11 attacks, DHS, and wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. However, al Qaida cannot be blamed for things like out of control entitlement spending and fiscal irresponsibility on the part of the US government, especially our current administration.

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  • FLDemFem

    You seem to be astounded that ” the Obama Administration is making policy without a shred of solid intelligence.” Well, why wouldn’t they? It’s what they have been doing since they took office. Why expect them to show signs of, or use of, intelligence at this late date?

  • DianaLC

    Larry, I really appreciate your analysis. WE all knew it was valid, but you can never expect a pre-programmed bot to say what it hasn’t been programmed to say. I won’t even mention the word “think” in regard to lolabot, as there is no cognition happening in there.

    • scottymac54

      Glad to see you back. My condolences and support to the people of Colorado, in view of the events of last week.

  • lola828

    Great you quote a NYT piece, but your original WP piece said two separate times that al Qaeda is not involved. So which is it? Do you believe the NYT or the WP? The information you give us is contradictory.

    Sure there may be some Jihadist involved, but there is no evidence that they are the driving force in the opposition in Syria. Would you call all those who have defected from the Syrian army, which make up a considerable part of the opposition fighters on the ground Jihadists or Sunni extremists? Most experts that I have been reading that actually know something about Syria say the Muslim Brotherhood is clearly taking a role in the opposition, but I would hardly call them extremists (although every country has a slightly different flavor MB).

    You are also completely off base by suggesting that Obama is doing something wrong. Whatever side the U.S. takes makes little difference, as it made no difference in Egypt, as the opposition very well might overthrow the Assad regime regardless of what position the U.S. takes. Unless of course you Larry Johnson are advocating that the U.S. take military action to support Assad and keep him in power as you want. Better to be on the side of the potential victor and support the opposition, who are at least attempting to win some new level of freedom. Russia by continuing to side with Assad will potentially lose the entire Middle East. Hezbollah by chosing to side with Assad may also be set adrift.

    Not sure what fish you are shooting in a barrel, but you entire argument is BS. You are affraid to overthrow a dictator because you are so afraid of Sunni extremists taking over. There is little proof that that will happen. More likely a good chance that Syria eventually becomes more like Turkey. So far the extremists have not taken over in Iraq, Tunisia, Libya or even Egypt (I hardly call the Muslim Brotherhood extremists, although for whatever reason NQbots think they are).

    Here is a question for you Larry Johnson; what should the U.S. or Obama be saying or our policy be with regard to Syria and this uprising? Easy to criticize, but what would your policy be?

    • Hokma

      “Sure there may be some Jihadist involved, but there is no evidence that they are the driving force in the opposition in Syria. . . . . Most experts that I have been reading that actually know something about Syria say the Muslim Brotherhood is clearly taking a role in the opposition, but I would hardly call them extremists (although every country has a slightly different flavor MB).”

      So now you are an expert on Middle East history and movements.

      First of all the force behind the overthrow of Assad are Jihadists as they were in Egypt and Libya. Take a look at where Egypt has ended up – a government dominated by The Muslim Brotherhood.

      How before you even open your mouth about how “moderate” The Muslim Brotherhood is here is some history and facts.

      The Third Reich financed and trained the Muslim Brothers (Palestine and Egypt) in terrorism against Jews. Hitler told the head of the Muslim Brotherhood, the mufti of Jerusalem, Yasser Arafat’s cousin, about his plans to kill Europe’s Jews. Hitler and the mufti shook hands on a plan to exterminate all the Jews of the Middle East. The Third Reich preserved the memo, the minutes, and a photo of their famous handshake.

      The Palestinian national movement was founded by al Husseini, mufti and the head of the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine and Hitler’s henchman. The founder of the PLO, Yasser Arafat, was trained by German Nazi army officers who were welcomed in Cairo after the war. He adopted the name “Yasser” to honor the Muslim Brother’s terror chief of the 1930s.

      The new head of Egypt, Mohamed Morsi of The Muslim Brotherhood is a follower of Mustafa Mashhur’s (“Jihad is the Way”) who was the former head of the Muslim Brotherhood. Mashhur believes in patient and gradual jihad in bringing about a world under a unified Islamic Caliphate. But they do believe in jihad and, at appropriate times, violent jihad.

      While Assad was not a friend of the U.S., he was a secular head who could be dealt with to maintain balance in the Middle East. What will replace him will be a theocratic regime similar to Egypt and Libya and Iran. These are people who have nothing but contempt for the West and have no tolerance of any other religion and their treatment of women and gays are archaic and abusive.

      Based on Obama’s actions, either he is a supporter of these fundamentalist regimes or he is a clueless moron.

      As far as Syria today, I can’t speak for Larry, but my view is at this late stage to keep the U.S. out of it and its only concern should be the securing of whatever WMD Assad has so it does not fall into the hands of the jihadist hoards if the government falls.

      • morris1030

        I don’t claim to know much about the forces and the complexities afoot in Syria, but it seems to me that Assad and his regime have been murdering their own people with regularity. Genocide is a better word for this kind of barbarism. While the outcome isn’t clear as intelligence is lacking and forces that may survive and possibly prevail are not much better or worse{?] than Assad seems no reason to tolerate Assad or back him in any way. Revolutions are messy and unpredicable but Assad should leave and if Brotherhood emerges, again the Syrian people will have to rebel again and with help this time, hopefully.

      • Flop_Flipper

        Thanks for the history lesson. I was not aware of much of this.

      • lola828

        All your Nazi bullshit is just bullshit. I suggest you read some real history about the Middle East during the second world war. There was a lot of switching of allegiance back and forth among Arab tribes during that period. Any particularly alliances did not mean much.

        I also suggest you do a little more research on the Muslim Brotherhood away from the bullshit website I am sure you are reading.

        Sure you may not like the Muslim religion, but the MB are a very moderate Muslim organization. They have also changed significanly since the 1970s, renouncing all violence and do not have particularly strong interpretations of Shia law, although the MB is different in different countries.

        There is no evidence that Egypt or Syria or Libya will turn into theocratic regimes, as you say. You do not even understand the difference between the role of religion in politics between Shia and Sunni sects. There is an enormous difference in the way each sect views religion and politics both actual structurally differences (the power of the Iman) and philosophical differences.

        Your post is typical fear-mongering by those on the right. Does the fear-mongering help Larry Johnson’s security business?

        • Hokma

          More unsubstantiated Juan Cole Jew-hating rants from a typical far left ignorant socialist who probably never read a book in his life after “Dick and Jane” and makes believe he has an intellect by Googling.

          No I did not get my information from some website. My information comes from books (it’s those things that generally have black ink on white paper and are bound together. They are accessible in any public or college library).

          The information I provided is indisputable facts supported by records and documents – as opposed to the friggin’ garbage you Holocaust denying Jew haters spew.

          Your knowledge of The Muslim Brotherhood is just plain ignorant – there is no other way of characterizing it. For a Jew hater like you (or Obama) it is simply self-serving. Before 9/11 to be honest I did not know that much about them or the Muslim religion. Then I began to read as much as I could (books). I stand by every word I wrote as a statement of fact.

          As far as “evidence” that Egypt is moving toward a theocracy you evidently don’t even read primary news sources. If you have have evidence to the contrary (primary news sources) then let’s see it.

          I will throw one more fact at you and this is from the Dubai chief of police who is warning of an international plot to overthrow Arab Gulf countries by the Muslim Brotherhood.

          “The comments by Dahi Khalfan, one of the most outspoken security officials in the United Arab Emirates, follow the detention in the UAE since April of at least 20 dissidents, according to relatives of the detainees and activists. . . . . Most of the detainees since April are Islamists, targeted by an official clampdown amid concern they may be emboldened by the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood in other Arab countries such as Egypt. . . . “I had no idea that there is this large number of Muslim Brotherhood in the Gulf states. We have to be alert and on guard because the wider these groups become, the higher probability there is for trouble,” Khalfan said on Wednesday.”

          http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=278993

          The Muslim Brotherhood is intolerant of all other religions (see Egypt), seeks a worldwide Islamic caliphate (see current events in the Middle East and Muslim activity in Europe), and has and will use all means to achieve that (from coercion and subversion to violence).
          Obama is either an ignorant fool or he is supportive of The Muslim Brotherhood and the spread of Islamic theocracies.

          • lola828

            Funny how quick you turn to name calling. Again, you give zero references to support your hate of muslims and BS beliefs about the MB. Typical of you.

            The Muslim Brotherhood is about the same as Evangelicals in the U.S. They push their religion like all other religions do.

            There is no evidence the MB has been involved in violence any any recent decades. Can you give us an example?

            No doubt a government official from Dubai would be scared of the people power of the MB, as they represent a threat to overthrow the totalitarian regime of Dubai or the U.A.E.

            • Hokma

              Look you Nazi moron, if you do not have the willingness to read something other than a Google search than just wallow in your ignorance and bigotry.

              And your analogy of the MB to Evangelicals is a new level of ignorance even for you, but typical of the Jew haters that Daily Koz is known for.

              The MB is counting on igorant bigots like you and Obama to fool you into looking away while they craftly take over the Middle East and then Europe.

              Go back into your basement jackass and pull out your bible – Mein Kampf – assuming you don’t read the abridged Wiki version.

          • Flop_Flipper

            Obama is either an ignorant fool or he is supportive of The Muslim Brotherhood and the spread of Islamic theocracies.

            Change the seventh word from “or” to “and” and you got it completely right.

        • Popsmoke

          Your are a meat-head… By the way, what business did you say you were in? Besides being a political spoofer and truly becoming a royal jerk. So the MB is a moderate organization. How the hell would you know that? Oh you read many blogs. Silly me I forgot….

          • lola828

            Actually, I have read a fair amount about the Muslim Brotherhood from many different Western scholars.

            Try reading this good recent piece from the respected Council of Foreign Affairs.

            http://www.cfr.org/africa/egypts-muslim-brotherhood/p23991

            It seems like your real issues are not with the MB, but rather with the muslim religion in general. Fine. That is your progative.

            Why do you think the Muslim Brotherhood is not a moderate organizaiton in the Arab world?

            Do you actually know anything about the Muslim Brotherhood?

            For example who makes up their membership? Do you know? Do you know the differences between the MB in different companies?

            Larry Johnson in his recent comments even admits the MB is not a radical or extremist group.

            • scottymac54

              “Try reading this good recent piece from the respected Council of Foreign Affairs…”
              You make many assumptions.
              I despise the Council of Foreign RELATIONS.
              They are globalist, push a one-world government agenda, and are as “New World Order” as they come.
              Personally, I do not see the Muslim Brotherhood as any sort of threat, and think way too much is made of the label.
              But trusting anyone who is consistently associated with the Council of Foreign Relations, is a fool’s errand, IMHO.

            • Popsmoke

              You with you my bullshit meter is always active…..

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      Are you really such a fucking thick headed ass? While I qouted the Washington Post I MADE THE SPECIFIC ANALYTICAL POINT THAT AL QAEDA WAS IN FACT INVOLVED. Jesus! Your stupidity is awe inspiring.

      • Retired_from_SPOnaj

        You, Larry Johnson! Is it my imagination, or is his/her written English getting progressively worse with each new comment? The style of writing is vaguely reminiscent of Okinawan bar girl’s small talk before she pitches you to “take her to the back.” Long time, short time, all same.

        • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

          Ticks me off that we’re getting the third rate talent from the Obama team. Wait. I guess that’s all they have.

          • Hokma

            Considering Obama is a third rate talent himself maybe this is the best they can do.

          • Retired_from_SPOnaj

            Yes, Larry Johnson, it seems like even when you write in proper English, they take your words and convert them to pidgin English when they spin them back at you. By the way, when are you going to “spoon” the most prolific of the Oborg shitflies so that he can begin calling you the more familiar “Larry” as opposed to the inappropriately formal “Larry Johnson?”

        • lola828

          I am sure you have spent many nights with the hookers or Okinawan. That would not be a surprise given your past comments about women.

      • lola828

        Larry Johnson you have a reading problem.

        The WP article says in two very specific spots that al Qaeda is NOT involved. Your own source therefore says al Qaeda is NOT involved and contradicts the NYT piece. So great you believe a NYT writer more than a WP writer. You are very persuasive.

        There is a huge difference between a few fighters that had previously had links to al Qaeda in Iraq (which I understand is very different than the al Qaeda of the Bin Laden persuasion), and who is the actual driving force behind the opposition. The Muslim Brotherhood are likely the much larger driving force behind the opposition and they have no love for al Qaeda and al Qaeda has no love for the Muslim Brotherhood. In fact, they traditionally hate each other and are competitors for the attention of the Muslim street.

    • Popsmoke

      So much for your Masters Degree from the University of Internet Blogs….

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/30/al-qaida-rebels-battle-syria

  • HELENK2

    http://blogs.aljazeera.com/topic/syria/russia-says-it-ready-host-talks-between-syrian-opposition-and-president-bashar-al-assad

    Russia says it is ready to host talks between syrian opposition and president assad

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  • KenoshaMarge

    Obama is “in the dark” on too many issues to mention. His much touted “brilliance” is a fabrication of the LSM and his own narcissism. Thus during a perilous time for the U.S. and the world we are lead by a fading Rock Star.

    I’m never surprised when a politician is proven to be dumber than I thought they were. Most are.

    I am surprised that so many “journalists” would be willing to put their country in jeopardy in order to foster their ideology. When all is said and done I suspect that ideology will be much diminished in the public mind by this mediocrity.

    • foxyladi14

      Incompetence thy name is Obama!! lol

    • FLDemFem

      Fading Rock Star?? Only if the “rock star” is Milli Vanilli.

      • Flop_Flipper

        Excellent analogy. True on many levels.

      • KenoshaMarge

        Weren’t we “told” by the media, over and over again that Obama was a Rock Star? (No mention of why in hell anyone would want a Rock Star in the White House but media in their obamaworship didn’t bother to make sense.)

  • bbf

    Stephen Lendman has posted a new Article titled: Syria Threatens No One

    To view the new Article, please click here:
    http://www.opednews.com/articles/Syria-Threatens-No-One-by-Stephen-Lendman-120725-724.html

    Contents of the Article:
    Media scoundrels specialize in distorting comments and meaning.

    They’re hyperbolic over Foreign Ministry spokesman Jihad Makdissi saying Syria would only use chemical weapons against external aggression.

  • Flop_Flipper

    I’m waiting for MSNBC to claim that Alawite is actually All-a-White, accuse Assad of being a racist and then twist the reference further by linking it somehow to Romney and the GOP. I wish I was kidding.

  • lola828

    Another stupid comment from Larry Johnson. In fact, the article you quote very specifically says in two different places the al Qaeda is not involved.

    So let me understand this. Your complaint with Obama is that you think he should be supporting Assad, a long time foe of the U.S.? What do you propose that we provide military assistance to Assad so he can murder the Assyrian people who have risen up? NQ use to be ok on foreign policy, but clearly no more as your hatred for Obama is clouding what interesting foreign policy thoughts you once had. You are now just a partisan hack.

    • Audacity of Hype

      lola, you are such a bore and blowhard.

    • Popsmoke

      You are kidding? No I think we should just fly blindly without any intelligence what so ever. Maybe that is how Sam Powers like things but the rest of the community knows better than this.

      By the way, which blog that you read makes you a national security expert?

      • lola828

        “No I think we should just fly blindly without any intelligence what so ever.”

        Who is flying blind anywhere? You make no sense.

        In fact, Obama has done exactly the right thing by keeping the U.S. out of Syria likely precisely because of the lack of intelligence. Obama said NO to arming the opposition precisely likely because of the lack of intelligence.

        If we listen to the Republicans (like McCain and others), they want us to arm the opposition without even know who they are.

        Obama has been 100% right on Syria supporting a change in regime against a long-term foe to the U.S. in Assad (follows with our long-term goal of democracy and freedom) and keeping us out including no weapons to the opposition and working to increase the pressure from the outside.

        Funny how you conservatives preach freedom and wave your flag, but that is only selective. If you do not like the result of democracy like in Egypt you run very fast away from democracy and freedom. It is not all about America and its needs.

        • TeakWoodKite

          “Obama said NO to arming the opposition precisely likely because of the lack of intelligence.”
          He said no? Then Why are Saudi’s sending arms to “the rebels” with an off the record weapons transfer? Are you that obtuse to not know how the arms deal is spun up? That shit will never be published unless Obama can gain political traction by leaking it. Hll, he claims eO on selling weapons to the Mexican drug cartels. What makes you think Syria via the house of Saud is any different?

          • FLDemFem

            lola probably thinks the Saudis have factories and such,..doesn’t know that SA is a big sand pile with oil under it and not much on top. Any weapons the Saudis have that are worth selling they got from the US.

            • lola828

              There is no evidence that U.S. weapons, even through Saudi Arabia, are in the hands of the Syrian opposition. At lot of Soviet made AK-47s and rocket propelled grenades though. Lot of BS speculation on here, including from Larry Johnson.

              The truth is that Obama has kept the U.S. out of getting directly involved in Syria. If McCain was your President we would likely be involved in another Iraq like war in Syria and maybe even in Iran. If Larry Johnson wants to keep the U.S. out of Iran and Syria then he is voting for the wrong party.

              • FLDemFem

                Do you really think that the US government couldn’t get its hands on AK-47s if they wanted to give them to someone? It would be a good way of arming people and being able to blame the Russians for it. The ATF has thousands of AK-47s that they have confiscated over the years. They know how to recycle them.

            • TeakWoodKite

              lalala is not very intelligent obot.

          • lola828

            Not sure what Saudi’s sending weapons to the Syrian opposition has to do with the U.S. not sending weapons? We do not control Saudi Arabia or any other country.
            It has been exactly right for Obama to give moral support to the opposition and not actually sending weapons to them like the Republicans would have us do.

            • TeakWoodKite

              You dummy, Where do you think the Saudi’s got the offset for it? You really are lacking any understanding of how weapons tranfers take place when there are domestic considerations in play. Obama is actively engaged in supplying weapons to the “opposition”, even when they are Al Q types by having the Saudi’s do it. BO then compensates the house Saud for the action. You remember BO DID kiss the ring of the Saudi king don’t you?

              • Flop_Flipper

                Obama actually kissed his ass. It just wasn’t photographed.

            • Flop_Flipper

              Probably before your time… have you ever heard of the Iran Contra scandal? Go ahead and Google it while we wait patiently for your copy and paste response.

  • HELENK2

    Russia’s deputy foreign minister says Syria has given ‘firm
    assurances’ that its chemical weapons arsenal is fully safeguarded – @Reuters

  • alicewolf

    There is an article in Liberty News online, that has a list of the people who form the Syrian Opposition. Here are a few clips: Syria :: New World Order – UN :: Print this Article
    U.S.- BACKED SYRIAN OPPOSITION LINKED TO THE BILDERBERGERS, THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS, GOLDMAN SACHS AND GEORGE SOROS The foreign-financed armed rebellion and the Western-backed opposition to Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad has been falsely portrayed as a spontaneous uprising of “democracy” activists since violence first broke out more than a year ago. But according to a recent investigation published in the U.K. Guardian, top figures in the “regime-change” coalition — most notably the Syrian National Council (SNC) — have intimate links to the highest ranks of the world elite: the shadowy Bilderberg conference, the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the Goldman Sachs megabank, billionaire financier George Soros, and, of course, the U.S. government. It is all out in the open, too.

    On top of that, the report suggests that much of the war propaganda being used to promote international military intervention and “revolution” is actually slick public-relations gimmicks financed by large tax-exempt foundations and even the governments being asked to intervene. And there is big money behind the spread of the disinformation. Bassma Kodmani, one of the top leaders in the “Syrian National Council” — a foreign-based umbrella group for some opposition factions, including the extremist Muslim Brotherhood, which is widely touted by the establishment press and Western governments as the primary group representing the “people” of Syria. And Kodmani, who continues to loudly demand international military intervention to oust the Assad regime, has open links to the elite. Before Bilderberg, Kodmani was a former official with the massive Ford Foundation, an organization that has also come under fire for its controversial efforts to remake the world. More recently, she was serving as the executive director of the “Arab Reform Initiative” for the powerful U.S.-based globalist outfit known as the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) — yet another controversial elite group that is often faced with severe criticism for its hostility to national sovereignty, as well as American traditions of self-governance and individual liberty. The CFR membership roster includes many of the most influential figures in U.S. politics, business, military, and more.

    “At this level, the worlds of banking, diplomacy, industry, intelligence, and the various policy institutes and foundations all mesh together, and there, in the middle of it all, is Kodmani,” Skelton pointed out, noting that billionaire leftist financier George Soros, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Goldman Sachs International Chairman Peter Sutherland, as well as countless military and intelligence bosses from the West, were all tied to the “Arab Reform Initiative” in various ways. “A picture is emerging of Kodmani as a trusted lieutenant of the Anglo-American democracy-promotion industry.” Indeed. The information goes on and on, and is extremely detailed.
    If Obama is carrying on as though he was totally unaware of what and who is doing whatever, then it’s not the fault of Liberty News. If Soros and Brezinski are part of the groups that have put the Syrian Opposition together then it would appear that ignorance on the part of the Crack Security Team that Obama is bragging about, is feigned. Obama or Valerie Jarrett have every opportunity to read what is written about on the blogosphere and it really doesn’t make sense to think they are operating in the dark. War is what they are aiming for and they will keep on pressing for it until they get it. Unless of course Geithner and Holder are both forced to step down when it will be certain that Obama is next unless he presses the RED BUTTON in a state of fury because his Nero complex will erupt in a Dr Strangelove thingymy. We have to get the Glass Steagall reinstated, National Banking reinstated with Credit for rebuilding the economy, and NAWAPA to immediately put at least six million people back to work here in the USA and give us a direction and hope for the future.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Oy Matey, it’s been a day of stormy seas. I have just got of a 13 hour watch. Can’t leave the tiller nor wheel in a storm until I made port. So I got off watch and just wanted to stare at the ceiling. Why is it everyone else’s uninformed course corrections are the supposeed to be the direction of my wind?
    Thanks LJ, for the insights….I saw on the ticker this am, that we shut down our embassey in Feb? and that was “hampering” our ability to “gather intelligence” on Syria.
    If we could just gather intelligence in the White House, that would be preferrable Syria. I pray our SpecOps aren’t shove into this fubar fan. Bottomline, Obama is a clear and present danger to the national security of the United States on every level .I do wait for the day he voted out.
    I’ve been feeling so redacted of late…
    In the mean time I’ll stare at the ceiling from safety of my rack.

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      Dude,
      If I went to sea with you I’d be chumming the waters. At least the fish would be happy.

      • TeakWoodKite

        Your welcome to come aboard anytime. Is that a package of Soprano BadaBing choom you got there?
        I am happy if the fish are happy. :)

  • buzzlatte3

    It looks like, from an armchair perspective, that Obama believes in the Muslim Brotherhood as a solution to all ME unrest. Isn’t that exactly what Russia and China would like?

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      I don’t think so. The rise of the Muslim Brotherhood does presage a shift towards fundamentalism, which is something neither the Russians nor the Chinese embrace. Frankly, I think the Russians and Chinese are preplexed by Obama’s actions. They can’t believe he’s really that stupid and naive, but they are not going to defer to us under any circumstance.

      • buzzlatte3

        Thanks for the reply. What type of government are the Russians and Chinese are hoping for in the ME? Obviously a type that they could heavily influence.

        • TeakWoodKite

          In either case Salafists aren’t what anyone but BO wants, for but BO has already said where his loyalties are “if push comes to shove”, and it isn’t the US Constitution.

          • buzzlatte3

            Forgot that one. *Sigh*

  • HELENK2
    • HELENK2

      Reuters) – Syria
      sent thousands of troops surging towards Aleppo in the early hours of
      Wednesday, where its forces have been pounding rebel fighters from the
      air, engulfing the country’s largest city in total warfare to put down a
      revolt.

  • scottymac54

    Personally, I’d prefer that Assad remain.
    What would be the worst scenario that could develop for us, if we just adopted a policy of benigh neglect toward Syria, without being transparent about it, while waiting for verifiable information to become available?
    All of a sudden, there is this sense of urgency about Syria that did not exist before, a need on the administration’s part to DO something, anything, as if to legitimize any course of action, as better than none.
    Why? Is this politically driven by the elections, in a way that Libya and Egypt were not?
    Why have actions in Yemen seemed to have fallen off the radar?