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Part II: The Scurrilous Ad Defaming Mitt Romney (Lola Alert) [Updated]

Writes Daniel Halper for the Weekly Standard “Yesterday, MSNBC also spent the morning talking about how the bad the Obama super PAC ad is. SAM STEIN IS ESPECIALLY STRONG, as is (will wonders ever cease) MARK HALPERIN:

Mark Halperin said then: “This is about as low as either side has gone … it’s a despicable ad.”

And even the Huffington Post’s Sam Stein said, “This is like so beyond what we need to discuss. … This just I think takes it too far.” (Read all.)

The Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler aka the man who “awards” the dreaded “Pinocchios”: “As we noted, a case could be made that Bain’s involvement extended the life of a dying steel plant, in which case Soptic kept his insurance longer than he might have expected.” (Below the fold, see more from the WaPo‘s Glenn Kessler.)

As soon as I spotted Romney’s powerful collection of verifiable quotes, I asked myself why I should re-write what Romney’s press release already makes so very clear. So I left well enough alone, and am re-printing “What They’re Saying About The Disgraceful Obama Super PAC Ad,” along with some comments. (There’s also a “Lola alert” below).

At the very end, I also make some RUDE remarks [UPDATED] about Mr. Sostik’s insistence on blaming Mitt Romney for all that ails him, perhaps even his occasional need to consume prunes.

“Dishonest” … “Scurrilous” … “Sickening” … “Despicable” … “Over The Edge”

Former Representative Joe Sestak (D-PA): “Over The Edge.” “‘I thought the ad was wrong in terms of trying to tie a presidential candidate to a personal tragedy of a family,’ said former Congressman Joe Sestak, a Democrat from Pennsylvania. ‘This ad goes over the edge.’” (Peter Nicholas and Colleen McCain Nelson, “Star Of Anti-Romney Ad Explains His Stance,” The Wall Street Journal, 8/8/12)

     Bronwyn’s Note: True-blue Democrat Joe Sestak was Bill Clinton’s Director for Defense on the National Security Council. During 30 years in the U.S. Navy, Vice Admiral Sestak commanded the USS George Washington carrier strike group during combat operations in the Persian Gulf and Indian Ocean” and, following 9/11, was “the first director of ‘Deep Blue’ (code name), the Navy’s top secret counter-terrorism unit.”

Time’s Michael Crowley: “Dishonest … Scurrilous.” “It is at once the most dishonest and substantive ad of the summer. Narrowly judged, the ad is scurrilous.” (Michael Crowley, “That Priorities USA Ad: Dishonest But Important,” Time, 8/8/12)

MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski: “Not Telling The Truth.” “Mika Brzezinski on Morning Joe this morning, responding to the Obama campaign’s claim that it had no involvement with or idea about the specifics behind a pro-Obama Super PAC’s TV ad linking Mitt Romney to a woman’s death from cancer. ‘There’s no price to pay, because they can say ‘Well, I don’t know the details’. You know what, at least on this show, that’s just not going to pass. They’re not telling the truth.’” (Christian Heinze, “Mika Brzezinski: Obama Campaign Is Lying About Cancer Ad,” The Hill, 8/9/12)

Time’s Mark Halperin: “Lines Of Decency Are Crossed…” “There is a fair amount of outrage on the left directed at journalists who seem intent on holding the Obamans accountable for the Priorities USA TV ad that features a man explaining how Mitt Romney’s actions at Bain Capital led to his wife’s death. … But when lines of decency are crossed, more strenuous efforts are required.” (Mark Halperin, “Why the Obama Super PAC Ad Is Different,” Time Magazine, 8/8/12)

LOLA ALERT: Larry can’t have you all to himself! So LISTEN UP: Please, Lola, note the remarks made by Brent Budowsky — a true “bleeding heart liberal” — from his column at The Hill. By the way, Lola, Budowsky’s writings have been featured at NoQuarterUSA, where all views are welcome (if rational and without rancor). Now here are Brett’s remarks:

The Hill’s Brent Budowsky: “Sickening … Despicable.” “It is sickening. It is despicable. It is unworthy of a sitting president. It is unworthy of a candidate for president. It is unworthy even of the campaign from hell we are witnessing.” (Brent Budowsky, “Obama Should Demand Priorities USA Pull Its Ad Suggesting Romney And Bain Killed A Woman,” The Hill, 8/8/12)

The Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler: “Stretches The Bounds Of Common Sense And Decency.” “As we noted, a case could be made that Bain’s involvement extended the life of a dying steel plant, in which case Soptic kept his insurance longer than he might have expected. … On just every level, this ad stretches the bounds of common sense and decency.” (Glenn Kessler, “New Anti-Romney Ad: Same Steelworker, Tougher Message,” The Washington Post, 8/7/12)

CNN’s Brianna Keilar: “Not Accurate.” “A new attack ad by a Super PAC backing President Obama appears to blame Mitt Romney for a woman’s death from cancer after his company, Bain Capital, shut down the steel mill where the woman’s husband worked. … It’s a very heart-wrenching story, but it’s not accurate. Here is the actual timeline…” (Brianna Keilar, “Ad Linking Romney To Death Of The Wife Of A Laid Off Steelworker Not Accurate,” CNN, 8/7/12)

Real Clear Politics’ Scott Conroy: “Unrelentingly Negative Style Of Campaigning…” “The new Priorities USA ad marked a deadly serious turn in the unrelentingly negative style of campaigning seen so far, but the two candidates demonstrated within hours of each other that neither one is above the kind of name calling that’s more befitting a schoolyard than an election to decide who the next president will be.” (Scott Conroy, “No End in Sight For Campaigns’ Negative Focus,” Real Clear Politics, 8/8/12)

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Here are excerpts of today’s “Morning Joe” segment, via The Weekly Standard:

“This morning on MSNBC, Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough blasted the pro-Obama super PAC for running an ad that suggested Mitt Romney was responsible for a women dying of cancer.”

Halper continues: “Then, Brzezinski and Scarborough went after Obama’s campaign for playing along, pretending not to know that the facts of the ad are wrong. ‘They’re not telling the truth’, Brzezinski said.

“‘This is so short-sighted and stupid that I can’t believe an organization that is this good has allowed themselves to be caught in such petty lies over the last 24 hours’, added Scarborough.” [...]

FOR THE VIDEO OF TODAY’S MORNING JOE: Larry has that video up in his new post, Obama’s Campaign Goes Stupid.”

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MY RUDE COMMENTS [UPDATED]: It defies credibility that your wife never exhibited any symptoms before you took her to an ER with pneumonia. I have known people as they went through various stages of lung cancer. The symptoms are painfully obvious — long before the friends got to a doctor.

Either your wife hated going to the doctor and refused, or you didn’t pay enough attention to her to see any of the obvious symptoms. Just sayin’ … that maybe your anger at Mitt Romney stems from your natural inability to face the prospect that both your wife and you knew she was quite ill, long before you took her to an emergency room. Now that is truly tragic because she might have lived a few more years or even, in some cases, beaten the cancer.

There is also the fact that, had she not had her own health insurance, you could have — if you’d prioritized expenses — added her to your own health insurance available to you through the school district.

By the way, school districts almost always offer excellent health insurance, well worth sacrificing elective purchases and eating out or, instead of buying new clothing, hitting the thrift and consignment shops that are available in every town and city across the entire nation. Some people even give up their cable/satellite TV reception, and rent movies from the local public library.

However, had your wife not worked and had your paychecks placed you below the poverty line, your wife could have received excellent health coverage free of charge via Medicaid — which would have immediately qualified her for disability had she been properly diagnosed with cancer. Or she could have applied for use of every hospital’s charitable donations funds towards her health care. The fund comprised of charitable donations are made available to needy patients from every hospital I’ve ever heard of.

Had she seen a doctor and been diagnosed with cancer, she would also have been eligible for Social Security Disability. The major drawback of SSD is that there is no health insurance coverage (Medicare) for the first two years — one of the more nonsensical Congressional exceptions I have ever heard of. That said, when she was awarded SSD, she would have received several thousand dollars because coverage is retroactive to the date of application.

Furthermore, during the two-year wait for Medicare to kick in, many states have basic health insurance plans that she could have signed up for. At the time your wife became ill, these state basic health insurance programs had sufficient funding to take new people. However, since Barack Obama became president and because states handled their budgets as if the good times would never end, some states have ended their basic coverage plans.

Additionally, had you not qualified for Medicaid or charity because the total value of your assets place your financial worth above guidelines, you could have applied for a loan or a second mortgage in order to pay for your wife’s Cobra plan (should she not have been working any longer) or to pay for her medical costs. It is worth noting that every public hospital will care for its patients, regardless of financial status.

Some people even sell their expendable assets — a second automobile, a boat, jewelry, coin collections, guns, a Hummel collection, fine china, silverware, baseball cards, and on and on.

Truly desperate people even sell their homes and move into an apartment if it means that their loved one can get proper medical care. At the time your wife was ill, you could have sold your home at a profit and, after paying capital gains taxes, still have had enough money to rent a lovely apartment or condo and to be able to add your wife to your school district insurance plan.

Or, you and she could have rented a spare bedroom, basement or attic to a student or newly single person who can’t afford an apartment. Yes, you would have had to share your kitchen and washer/dryer, but those are easily handled obstacles. Additionally, you could have charged the renter for a percentage of the utilities and TV cable/satellite bill.

There are also churches, religious organizations, and community groups that gladly donate money to needy people. And, surprisingly, you don’t have to be destitute to ask for help. A relative of mine who was worth millions, lives in a McMansion and has a wife who makes $65+/hour thought nothing of asking his church’s congregation for financial help to pay for the $2,000/month experimental cancer treatments he received. It was touching to read his note of thanks to the congregation for their substantial donations.

Regardless, of course, your grief is so understandable. What is not understandable is that you’ve turned Mitt Romney into your personal whipping boy. It is not dignified. And it is not honest.

I trust that Mr. Sostik realizes that — having exploited him to the max — Barack Obama, Stephanie Cutter and Bill Burton will never again give him the time of day. And let’s hope that Mr. Sostik isn’t day-dreaming about a personal tour of the White House by Michelle Obama.

  • getfitnow

    I had to grab this comment from another site, It says it all. tee hee!
    ******************
    “After four years of Obama, we need some R & R!”

  • getfitnow

    VP_it’s Paul Ryan!

    Biden/Ryan debate –popcorn time!

    Will we ever forget this!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPxMZ1WdINs

    Go Team!

  • getfitnow

    On DRUDGE this morning:
    Romney Running Mate 9AM ET Saturday in Norfolk…

    Nauticus Museum, home of USS Wisconsin…

    SOURCES: Final names were Ryan, Rubio, Pawlenty, Christie, Portman and one unnamed wild card…

    ROMNEY MADE CALLS LATE LAST NIGHT TO THOSE WHO DID NOT GET SLOT…

    Campaign makes it official…

    ‘America’s comeback team’…

    WAS PAUL

  • jrterrier

    One of the CNN reporters just said that Pawlenty told him that it wasn’t going to be him. Pawlenty is going to be in NH tomorrow.

  • HELENK2
  • Pingback: Mitt goes on the offensive against a repugnant Obama ad : NO QUARTER

  • getfitnow
    • HARP2

      Solution

  • getfitnow

    and how many weeks do we have to go? These fools are clamping down on private citizens.
    http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/off-mic/item/42734

  • jrterrier

    another great ad from the romney superpac on the scurrilous ad:

    http://youtu.be/6kSYT53NMug

    • Flop_Flipper

      WOW!!! And it deserves every keystroke of emphasis. That’s a game changer.

      • jrterrier

        one of the best parts of the ad is Cutter’s facial expressions. if she weren’t so hateful, i would feel bad for her.

        • getfitnow

          I was thinking I’d like to slap that smirk off her face. And it really is a nasty smirk.

          • jrterrier

            actually, i think it was an “oops, i got caught, now what do i say” smirk.
            she knew as she was saying that she didn’t know the facts about the guys’ wife that she had been on the conference call with the man.

            • getfitnow

              I never thought of that. I bet you’re right.

    • getfitnow

      Keep ‘em coming. God knows there’s enough material.

  • http://lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com/ Canaan

    Yeah, Obama is a liar. Nothing that comes out of his mouth has any value. He tells bigger lies than this every day on the economy.

    If you follow the logic of the ad, it’s Obama who right now is consigning people to death row. The national debt will destroy the safety net and people will die. Yet the President lies pathologically about ‘balanced deficit reduction’ while calling for even more public spending.

    It’s too much to hope for, but voters should just tune out the Obama campaign. We can’t believe anything Team Obama says.

  • jrterrier

    maybe the NYTimes and other media empires will finally realize that most of us who read (and used to read their products) do not enjoy reading false and misleading stories slanted to one party or person. it may be too late for them to return some semblance of integrity to the press.
    story about how the NYTimes is having to sell of its assets.
    http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2012/08/10/nyt-hosts-media-fire-sale/

  • HARP2

    It’s About Time… Romney Releases Ad Highlighting Obama’s Ugly Character Flaws (Video)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-EEETo3Sqo&feature=player_embedded

    • Flop_Flipper

      Good ad too.

  • HARP2

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows
    Mitt Romney attracting support from 47% of voters nationwide, while
    President Obama earns the vote from 43%. Four percent (4%) prefer some
    other candidate, and six percent (6%) are undecided.

    Voters in Northern Virginia are almost evenly split
    between President Barack Obama and former Gov. Mitt Romney, according to
    the WTOP Beltway Poll conducted by Heart+Mind Strategies.
    Forty-eight percent of residents support Obama while 46 percent would
    vote for Romney. The difference falls easily within the poll’s 4.17
    percent margin of error.
    Rasmussen Iowa President: Romney 46%, Obama 44%

    • lola828

      Love those Rasmussen polls. They consistently give Republicans the upper hand, even though all other polls say differently. I suppose you have to give the Republicans what they are paying for.

      • Hokma

        Look you lying loser, do some more Googling. Rasmussen and Gallup are the most reliable and they are consistent. The other polls are heavily biased and that has been proven. Go google more.

  • jrterrier
    • Dissentispatriotic

      Some pretty obvious fall out from the nasty, lying ad. Wondered if and when that would put a dent in him. His approval had been at 49% just a couple of days ago.

  • jrterrier

    Romney ad on the Soptic ad:
    http://youtu.be/z-EEETo3Sqo

    • getfitnow

      I mentioned on another thread that Soptic is nothing but a willing tool. Here he is in January on Democracy Now.
      http://www.democracynow.org/appearances/joe_soptic

      • Flop_Flipper

        Not only that. His response on this video is almost exactly, word for word, the same one he used in the Obama campaign AND the SuperPAC. I noticed that this interview took place in January. And between then and now he is using the same exact phrases? Doubtful if he is any sort of human being. Since he is an Obot I fully understand.

  • lola828

    “…have been featured at NoQuarterUSA, where all views are welcome (if rational and without rancor). ”

    ha! ha! ha!

    That statement is a complete load of crap. The only views that are welcome are those that are not banned, censored or deleted by Larry Johnson and NQ. Also, the only topics that are blogged about on here are 100% hate Obama content cut and pasted from every looney right-wing website/FOX News or in the case of this post above may mention some so-called “liberal” commentators if they are somehow against Obama with their commentary. This website is completely bias and a total hate Obama website. Went that way after Larry Johnson got chased out of Daily Koz with his tail between his legs and bitched and complained that he could not take the heat. There is absolutely no balance or “all views are welcome” on this website. There are just degrees of hatred for Obama or degrees of personal attacks on anyone who might think differently than the NQbot echo chamber.

    As for the recent Priorties U.S.A. ad you mention above, it is BRILLIANT.

    It highlights what damage private equity, the business of Romney, can have on every day people. They can lose their healthcare, as these private equity firms push for as big and as quick a profit as possible. Everyday people lose their insurance and healthcare because guys like Romney want another vacation house or a dressage horse. We should have the debate about what kind of “capitalist” country Romney wants. Do we want a country where companies do not provide healthcare to their employees (we know you do not want government to provide healthcare)? Do we want a country where corporate raiders endlessly squeeze their employees to make a quick buck?

    It is funny to watch all you so-called “conservatives” or Obama haters squirm from an Ad that challenges Romney and you.

    • Hokma

      Incoherent chirping . . . . . . .

      • lola828

        The usual meaningless replies from NQbots, just an endless stream of personal insults. Real class acts.

        • Hokma

          Sorry.
          Z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z
          Trite unsubstantiated Obamaloney rhetoric.

    • FormerLib160

      Get Obama out of your mouth

      That’s disgusting

      • Flop_Flipper

        Definitely unsanitary.

    • HARP2

      Are you really that stupid.

      If we apply your insane logic, then Obama is responsible for the future of anyone fired from the many coal plants he is forcing to close. not to mention the death of Brian Terry and many Mexicans.

      • Flop_Flipper

        Now that you mention it, Obama is. So maybe lola isn’t insane, just incredibly (of the Olympic Gold variety) stupid.

    • Flop_Flipper

      Geez dude/dudette you really need to seek some help. Only a morally reprehensible human being would be happy with this deplorable ad. If you are religious in the least, I suggest you seek some guidance. If that ain’t your thing then see a psychiatrist. I’d say psychologist too, but you are in need of some medication. STAT.

  • http://twitter.com/geffbeck jbeck

    As usual Goper flunkies do what they know best – point out to pearl clutching socialites “Seee, they are screaming!!” or attack the victim. Larry’s friends do both here. Not surprising. But the task of this campaign is to make it clear, very clear, Fraudney Romney is an obscenely wealthy scrooge who got rich by bankrupting people, companies and industries, and by dodging and cheating on his taxes. It has worked very well. Obama disregarded the Beltway “wisdom” and went directly to the people. Which is why even Rove’s Xroads phoneys had to take down their anti-Obama character assassination campaign. It doesn’t work. No amount of money, millions or billions, on the airwaves is going to make Obama look bad. No amount of money is going to hide the fact that Fraudney is a cold ruthless scrooge and money grubbing dirtpaw. Don’t worry me hearites, Democratic SuperPACS have enough awful stuff on Fraudney to keep him wimping way past 11-6-12. The idea is to make it clear to every fatcat and robber baron – your cheating and thieving ways are not a secret. Don’t attempt to buy the election. The American people aren’t for sale. Let this be a lesson to the GOP and its flunkies.

    • Hokma

      They do not have anything on Romney. As already proven, they are making it up and the corrupt media is letting them get away with it.

      Axelgrease’s idea of a politial campaign has nothing to do with issues. – only destroying people which in this case is just making shit up.

      In his run for Senate Axelgrease got his former newspaper to unseal divorce records on the leading Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate (Blair Hull) which destroyed him an gave the nomination to Obama. The Axelgrwase did exactly the same thing with the GOP nominess Ryan who was forced to drop out at the last minute in favor of Alan Keyes.

      Axelgrease did this to Bill Clinton during the run for Dem nominee for President.

      And most recently, Axelgrease concocted the series of so-called sex harrassment claims against Herman Cain to force him out the race.

      So far Obama has gotten away with it. But morons like you who have no insight and do not understand that Romney has been limited by law in how much he can spend until he is the officially the GOP nominess. So Obama has been spending 3:1 over Romney. Also the large majority of Americans are not paying attention to this circus and will not until late September when it begins to count.

      When Romney and company unleash their strategy and spending Obama will be destroyed. Obama is a piece of garbage who should be living in a sewer along with his socialist buddies.

  • jrterrier

    “Take the California State Teachers’ Retirement System, which has some $1.25 billion invested with Bain. A spokesman for the system, Ricardo Duran, says in an e-mail that its fiduciary duty to 856,000 members and their families is paramount. “With that as a backdrop,” he says, “the scrutiny generated by a heated election year matters less than the performance the portfolio generates to the fund.” And private equity, Duran says, has been the best-performing asset class in the system’s portfolio over the past 24 years.”

    http://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2012/08/11/how-bain-capital-trying-reluctantly-clean-its-name/APm9JBevUsf1ePgSdZP7NO/story.html?s_campaign=sm_tw

    but not to worry, President Obama thinks he can do better.

    • FormerLiberal9

      “…but not to worry, President Obama thinks he can do better.”

      Sure he would invest in Green Energy. That is why it is important to keep that fool away from your money.

      Thx for the link.

      • buzzlatte3

        Haha! Obama is a loser 360 degrees.

    • http://twitter.com/geffbeck jbeck

      Yeah, $1.25 billion of total holdings of $156 billion. Less than 1%. And BTW the average wealth of the fund members is $175,860.00 It’s hard earned money of its members that is tightly regulated by its trustees and the government, and is not frittered away by unscrupulous robber barons like Mitt who have bankrupted pension funds at companies they acquired and left the Feds to pick up the tab. Seriously, you Goper flunkies are numerically challenged. No wonder Obama threw you Puma idiots out!

      • jrterrier

        blah, blah, blah. more composite fiction on your part. you must have learned it at the feet of your fearless leader.

        if you don’t like the way that capitalism works, there are a few countries still around that promote a different system — Cuba and NKorea come to mind. Be our guest, please and move to either country for a few years and then let us know how it went.

        • Hokma

          You left out Venezuala. Jerkie Beck could be buddies with Sean Penn.

        • Flop_Flipper

          Minor correction. He didn’t learn it at Obama’s feet, he learned it up his ass. Sorry, just couldn’t let the inaccuracy stand. You know how sensitive those Obots are to facts.

      • Flop_Flipper

        Fluke Off Obot!

  • jrterrier

    Interesting article about Bain Capital:
    “IT’S A HOT SUMMER DAY. You’re dragging. You need an afternoon lift. You pull into Dunkin’ Donuts for an iced coffee confection, its plastic cup sweating in your hands. You get home and turn on The Weather Channel to see when the heat will break. Not for a while, it turns out. So you flip open the laptop, go to the Toys “R” Us website, and order a kiddie pool for the backyard. One you can fit in, too.

    Over the course of maybe an hour, you’ve just interacted with private equity three times. More specifically, with Bain Capital, the Boston-based powerhouse launched 28 years ago by a sharp, Harvard-trained business consultant named Mitt Romney. It’s the brand that owns or has a stake in a number of brands you know — Dunkies, The Weather Channel, Toys “R” Us, and plenty of others (its portfolio includes 140 companies). Chances are you have no idea about the Bain connection, and you don’t care, so long as the coffee is sweet and cold, the forecasts are on target, and the pool arrives as promised.”

    http://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2012/08/11/how-bain-capital-trying-reluctantly-clean-its-name/APm9JBevUsf1ePgSdZP7NO/story.html?s_campaign=sm_tw

    • jrterrier

      More on Bain Capital:
      “In response to the scrutiny, Bain’s managing directors penned an unusual three-page letter to investors earlier this year, offering a full-throated defense of the firm’s record, a summary of its investments and performance over nearly three decades, and a reminder of its employees’ extensive charitable activity. The executives, quoting Mark Twain on fact and distortion, asserted that companies under Bain’s control had collectively grown their revenues by $105 billion, $80 billion of it in the United States. “This sharply politicized issue attracts enormous attention and lends itself to misleading anecdotes and cherry-picking of the record,” the directors wrote. “But there should be no doubt that $105 billion of revenue growth is an economic engine with widespread benefits.”
      http://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2012/08/11/how-bain-capital-trying-reluctantly-clean-its-name/APm9JBevUsf1ePgSdZP7NO/story.html?s_campaign=sm_tw

    • jrterrier

      And more:
      “Bain says that, over its history, fewer than 5 percent of companies have filed for bankruptcy while under its control and that it has helped create hundreds of thousands of jobs.”
      . . .
      “For private equity leaders, watching the debate about their work unfold in a political environment can be infuriating. Paul S. Levy helped cofound JLL Partners, a mid-size New York-based private equity firm, in 1988. An Obama voter in 2008, he’s outraged at the “noxious debate” he says the president and his allies have fueled about Bain, job losses, and outsourcing. It’s a selective and deceptive account, Levy says. What about layoffs and outsourcing, he asks, at companies with executives who support Obama? “This is just an effort to divert people from their true pain,” says Levy, who will not vote for Obama again.”

      But Levy remains frustrated, too, that private equity has not pushed back more aggressively. “It’s surprising to me that more people haven’t come to the defense of Bain specifically and the defense of private equity generally,” Levy says, including Romney and Bain executives themselves. “We’re not talking about a marginal operation here,” he says. “We’re talking about one of the preeminent firms, which I think has earned its reputation — meaning, positive reputation.”

  • jrterrier

    another good article:

    “The point is that more than any President we can recall, Mr. Obama isn’t trying to persuade voters that he deserves to stay in office because of his philosophy, record or positive vision for the country. Rather, his case is that he deserves re-election because Mr. Romney is worse, and he is so very much worse because of things that were invented in the West Wing but are detached from reality.

    The entire theory of the Obama campaign seems to be that the more outrageous the claim the better, because the more you repeat it the more the media will talk about it, and the lie will achieve a kind legendary truth. ”

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443537404577577193632921170.html?mod=rss_opinion_main

    • http://twitter.com/geffbeck jbeck

      The WSJ OpEd page is the world’s last refuge of fools and knaves and their friends. When Bubba raised taxes in 1993, the Global Village Idiot Ronald Wrong’un clutched his pearls and wrote a screed on the WSJ OpEd page. When his aides told him about it, Bubba reportedly remarked, “Reagan? Tell him it’s Bedtime for Bonzo!” The robber baron press understands one thing.Presidential might. FDR put them in their place and Obama too is doing it. As the late great Mother Jones said, “Pray for the dead. Fight like hell for the living.” To quote Ted Kennedy, Lion of the Senate “For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die”

      • Hokma

        You mean Ted Kennedy the drunk murderer of the Senate? The dream he had was not shared with his older brother John.
        The rest of what you wrote is confusing and has not meaning.

        • jrterrier

          No, he means the Ted Kennedy, who did not release a single tax return during his years of running for office. And whose wealth, derived from his father’s illegal business in moonshine and other questionable activities posed no problem for Mr/s Beck and the kindred fellows that hang with him or her.

          You remember him, the scion of the Kennedy family empire, which apparently was granted an exemption from the robber baron category, sort of like the exemptions from Obamacare that Secy Sebellius hands out.

          • shelldoll2

            Thank you. My grandmother told me how “Old Joe” Kennedy made his wealth. It was earned by illegal moonshine running.

      • jrterrier

        That was written by Peggy Noonan, who although she was a speech writer for Reagan became an Obama supporter in 2008.
        And I understand that you only recognize those MSM outlets that slobber over your candidate. But sometimes, you should broaden your horizon.

        • Flop_Flipper

          It’s likely impossible given the dwarfed nature of it’s brain.

      • jrterrier

        Beck it’s funny that you should cite Ted Kennedy as the anti-robber baron and obviously as the anti-Romney who you so often deride. Ted was a wealthy man, probably wealthier that Romney. Yet, Ted never earned a penny of that wealth. Unlike Romney, who earned his millions the old-fashioned way by going to work every day, Ted just ran around with women living off his inherited wealth.
        I will acknowledge that he worked hard in the Senate but that’s not where his wealth came from.

      • Flop_Flipper

        Have I told you to Fluke Off yet? Can’t remember if it was you or one of your Borgettes. Anyway, just to make certain I didn’t leave you out, Fluke Off Obot!

  • jrterrier

    stealing this from another blog:

    8.3% unemployment, 100 million on welfare benefits and 5 trillion in new debt. What person in their right mind wants four more years of that?

    and this one:
    Nothing in Romney’s tax returns will explain why Obama has done such a poor job over the last 4 years

    • lola828

      so you are going to vote for the GOP and its candidate who wants the Bush policies on steriods who caused the Great recession and got us in this mess.? Boy, that makes sense.

      All Obama has been doing is putting out the fires started by the previous adminstration and he has been doing a great job at it. More than half of the 8 million jobs lost have come back (even more if you exclude all the government jobs lost), the economy is growing again, we our completely out of one war and moving out of another, etc.

      • FormerLib160

        ONLY thing Obama has done is class warfare. Obama has pitted Americans one against another. Black v White, Rich v Poor, Christian v Secular, etc.
        Obama is NOTHING but a divider. The quicker he is OUT of office the BETTER.

        • lola828

          How do you figure? Can you give one example that shows any class “warfare” or that Obama is the cause of it? You win the looney NQbot reply of the day.

          It is funny how asking those with income over $250,000 to pay a few percentages more in taxes to rates well below where they were under Reagan and to just where they were under Clinton becomes class warfare. Talk about a “talking point”.

          The only “class” warfare that I see going on is from all the billionaires funding Romney to manipulate policy in their favor and screw the rest of us.

          • Hokma

            I would expect a communist like you to DENY class warfare in order to deflect criticism. But if you really do not know what class warfare is then do what you do best and Google it.

      • Hokma

        ” . . . caused the Great recession and got us in this mess”

        Ywan. The same tired bullshit cut-and-paste the Obamination cult. No one _ NO ONE – believe that crap anyore moron. Go do more google searching.

        And Obama created his own fires idiot. No one is believing the blame Bush B.S. anymore. Better catch up – do more googling.

        • lola828

          I get it you want to defend you boy Bush who burnt the house down. Many Republicans do not even believe you.

          By the way what fires precisely did Obama create?

          The country is in a far better place today than where it was in January 2009. We have left or are leaving stupid wars, our economy is growing again and creating jobs, the stock market has gained back all its value that was lost, consumer confidence has improved, individuals are de-leveraging, the U.S. is more respected in the world, we are on the way toward universal healthcare coverage, etc.

          • Hokma

            What I would expect from the ignorant proletariat that Obama is counting on to fulfill his socialist mission. In addition, your facts are dead wrong. Do better googling.

      • jrterrier

        if you repeat your last paragraph over and over, you may start to believe it. but i would rather look at the facts.

        besides, i refuse to vote for a President who has caused the cancer-deaths of so many (you know all the unemployed who lost their health insurance under this administration).

        • lola828

          So Obama was responsiblel for the global economic collapse and mortgage meltdown that started in 2007?

          Funny stuff.

          • Hokma

            Obama was not but liberals were beginningwith the CRA and the empowering of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. When Bush tried to fix it, liberals stopped him. Liberals are only good at lies and deceipt.

      • Flop_Flipper

        Let’s play a game here lola. It’s called Reality. And here is your bonus round question. If you get it right you win the prize. I will not insult you for a week. But it’s a two part question and it has a time limit. So put your thinking cap on. Ready?

        Part 1) Who is responsible for writing the laws which regulate the financial industry?

        Part 2) Which political party was in power in Congress during the last two years of the Bush presidency? Hint: this is when the recession began.

        And just to make things a little more interesting and to give you a chance at a two week cease fire from me, here is your super duper bonus question.

        Which President foresaw the impending housing collapse and asked Congress to address the issue immediately only to be assured he was wrong and turned down?

        To claim your prize you must answer the questions in a straightforward manner. No BSing (I know, it’s going to be hard), just simple and accurate responses. And you have exactly 8 hours to answer the questions. Oh, and no Googling.

        Your time starts now!

        • lola828

          Part 1) the government. Unfortunately under Bush and Clinton the financial industry was deregulated. Bush went even urther by completely stripping funds for enforcement. There is no doubt that as the derviatives bubble was building from 2002 to 2007 the government should hve been doing more. They were warned by Brooksley Born and others.

          Part 2) After the first six years of the GOP controling everything, the Democrats took the House in 2007. They tried to pass many laws, particularly regarding the Iraq War, but the Republicans and Bush blocked evertyhing. It was the end to any compromise by the Republicans once the Democrats took control of only 1/3 of government.

          “Which President foresaw the impending housing collapse and asked Congress to address the issue immediately only to be assured he was wrong and turned down?”

          Nixon? That is a funny question.

          To quote Bush:

          “We can put light where there’s darkness, and hope where there’s despondency in this country. And part of it is working together as a nation to encourage folks to own their own home.” — President Bush, Oct. 15, 2002

          This Bush video says it all:
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYvtvcBKgIQ

          And if you have the courage try reading this (sorry it is not from those bastions of award winning journalism Newsmax or Brietbart):

          http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/business/21admin.html?_r=1

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ownership_society

          Bush did a very good job at promoting the housing bubble, while his buddy Greenspan did his part too. His adminstration did absolutely nothing while a wild west of subprime mortgages developed.

          Funny you do not seem to want to give the Republicans and Bush any credit for the housing and derivatives bubble and the financial collapse or what happened on his watch, but you want to blame Obama for this economy. Your logic, as usual, makes no sense.

          And now you want to vote for a Wall Street guy who wants to further deregulate Wall Street and eliminate what little protections we got from Frank Dodd. It will be the cat guarding the hen house with Romney, the guy who used ever offshore tax loop hole to enrich himself.

          • Flop_Flipper

            Gong!

            I specified no BS and you weren’t within the time limit I specified. And you missed all three questions. But as an act of kindness I will probably not insult you today.

      • Propertius

        Not me – I’m voting for Anderson or Stein.

  • jrterrier

    It really is a shame that Newt Gingrich is such a flawed man. When he is good, he is very, very good. Unfortunately, when he is bad . . .

    here’s a clip of very good-Newt:

    http://www.rightspeak.net/2012/08/newt-gingrich-on-morning-joe-full.html

  • HELENK2
  • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

    As I recall, the Obama campaign also violated federal campaign laws in 2008 by turning off their credit card fraud verification and accepting small donations from obviously fake people with names such as “Mickey Mouse” and “Doodad Pro.” For once I’d like to see them become accountable for their actions, but I’m not holding my breath.

    • buzzlatte3

      Yep! What you said!

  • HELENK2

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/08/09/Embattled-Stephanie-Cutter-Drops-ABC-This-Week-Appearance

    stephanie cutter drops ABC this week appearance

    afraid to answer questions??

  • Flop_Flipper

    A few points….

    Sarah Palin has a
    very level headed response
    to all this. I am using the words
    level headed to distinguish her from the wild and
    passionate reaction Ann Coulter had. Not that I didn’t enjoy Ann’s rant.

    If you listen to Soptic (or is that Septic?) on the infamous conference call hosted by Cutter,
    I think it obvious that he is reading from a script. Am I the only one
    that has sensed this?

    • getfitnow

      Wouldn’t surprise me. Earlier in the year he was on Democracy Now with Amy Goodman–saying the same things.

      • Dissentispatriotic

        Some has to ask the question how does Mr. Septic benefit from all this notariety? Is he the Democratic ‘Joe the Plumber’? No one has mentioned the Amy Goodman appearance yet so they’re really starting to stack up. Good find. Are the talking points the same?

        • getfitnow

          Link posted upstairs,

        • Flop_Flipper

          Yes, the talking points are the same. And the verbiage is almost identical.

    • jrterrier

      He is absolutely reading from a script. You can hear it in the way he pauses after some words.

    • lola828

      Sarah Palin a NQ favorite makes a comeback. Now we just need HARP2 to put back up his Tea Party flag.

  • KenoshaMarge

    Oops, it appears that at least one Democrat still has some decency, honesty and character. Good for Lanny Davis!

    Top Democrat: Obama Must ‘Repudiate’ ‘Disgusting’ Ad

    “Bill Burton needs to go back to ethics
    school,” Davis said of the group’s senior strategist, who is a former Obama
    White House spokesman. “He knows
    perfectly well that the ad is misleading and disgusting and he needs to
    apologize for it.” …

    Davis said the president shouldn’t allow his
    supporters to suggest that Romney is in any way to blame for the woman’s death.

    “President Obama owes it to the American
    people to repudiate this ad,” he said.

    link: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/09/Top-Dem-Demands-Obama-repudiate-Ad

    • Dissentispatriotic

      Lanny Davis is a decent person and so glad to hear him call out Bill ‘the smirk’ Burton and Obama himself.

      • KenoshaMarge

        I was so glad to see it too. The Dems need to listen to the likes of Lanny Davis and other decent Dems and purge their party of sleaze like Burton and Cutter. Oh and Obama.

    • jrterrier

      Gov Rendell also called them out on the ad. In other words, the adults in the party. Note none of them seem to be in office. They’ve all moved on.
      And if Hillary weren’t still thinking of running, Bill Clinton would be leading the “have you no shame” train.

      • KenoshaMarge

        Good point. And shame on Bill Clinton if that’s why he’s staying silent. In fact, just plain shame on Bill Clinton for remaining silent no matter what the reason.

        • getfitnow

          From the time they were painted as racists, should have been the last straw, imo. It only shows how important the party is. The irony is it’s not the same party.

          • KenoshaMarge

            That is why I am no longer a Clinton fan. Either Clinton. Once the Obamabots tried to portray them as racists they should have walked away. They didn’t.

      • DianaLC

        I may have missed it, but I am wondering if Hillary’s debt from the primary has finally been paid. I’ve wondered if part of the reason the Clintons have seemed sometimes to suck up to O is an agreement between them about that debt. Anyone here know the answer?

        • jrterrier

          I doubt that it’s about the money. It’s probably more about party loyalty and her/his ambitions for another Hillary run for president.

  • KenoshaMarge

    Flashback 2008: Bill Burton Slams GOP For “Polluting Our Politics With False And Mean-Spirited Attacks”…

    more: http://weaselzippers.us/2012/08/09/flashback-2008-bill-burton-slams-gop-for-polluting-our-politics-with-false-and-mean-spirited-attacks/

    • KenoshaMarge

      Burton’s not only a lying scumbag, he’s a hypocritical,lying scumbag!

      • Flop_Flipper

        He’s a Democrat. I wasn’t aware that they could be anything else.

        • KenoshaMarge

          There are decent, honest Dems. And they need to step up and take their party back from the scum or it will go down in infamy as what the Obamacrats, obamamedia and other scummy Dems are defining it as.
          Just as I never believed during the Bush years, when I was a Democrat, that ALL Republicans were bad, I don’t believe now that all Dems are. But when you’re partisanship allows you to remain silent when your party is doing bad things you become worse that what you pretend to hate. And a hypocrite to boot.

          • Dissentispatriotic

            Agree, KM. Thank you.

            • KenoshaMarge

              No thanks needed. I just spoke the truth.

          • Flop_Flipper

            You are undoubtedly right, but they represent (or are represented by) a corrupt, immoral party. To the core. I won’t end my grudge against them until something drastically changes. I might be petty, arrogant and stubborn as hell, but at least I’m not a Democrat. And I am so very proud of that fact.

            • KenoshaMarge

              I am also proud that I am no longer a Democrat. As should all of us be who saw what they did in 2008 and left in disgust.
              I don’t think there is much chance of a re-awakening in the Democrat party until the triumvirate of sleaze is gone. So as long as Obama – Reid – Pelosi are around it will not improve. As well as many others in the “old” guard. But then you get things like Chuck Schumer. Ugh. Gonna take some time I fear.
              Because I may not be a Dem but I am not a Republican either. They have their own hall of shame to contend with. I give them credit that they have attempted it. Not enough but enough to show they are trying.

          • getfitnow

            There are decent, honest Dems.
            ********************
            Where. Are they the super delegates that were too afraid to stand up to Pelosi and stand firm in their original support of Hillary? Are they the ones that not only voted for Obamacare, but by doing so supported the devious way it was rammed through? That party has a lot of purging to do.

            • KenoshaMarge

              That party has all ready done a lot of purging, of the moderate Dems who I think of as the reasonable and decent Dems.
              I also was referring to honest decent citizens who somehow manage to either close their eyes to what is going on, or because they only get their “news” from the MSM and don’t know what’s going on.
              No one “party” or group has a lock on decency or on evil. The Republicans may be making the same mistake if they continue to purge moderates. The trouble is too often moderates are the ones who go along to get along. And that won’t do either. The whole system is a mess.

              • getfitnow

                I agree.

                • KenoshaMarge

                  I am also not sure that anyone in politics has the vision or the courage to fix the mess.

                  • getfitnow

                    The only one that has demonstrated that kind of courage, for all the world to see is Scott Walker. He fought an nasty, uphill war and never gave in because it was the right thing to do.

                    • KenoshaMarge

                      He did indeed. And his wife and family paid the price in scum sucking lefty ads against him and them. I was proud to vote for him both times and would gladly do it again.

      • getfitnow

        And he’s a “circular” liar. Says the ad didn’t say Romney was responsible for the death of this woman. But if Romney is elected, people will die. WTF?

        • KenoshaMarge

          Once you accept that Bill Burton is a lying POS it’s easy. Nothing he says is credible.

  • KenoshaMarge

    Scurrious attacks on the GOP are dandy. The media not only doesn’t report on them, notice the silence about the “Romney killed my wife with cancer ad” on CBS, NBC and ABC? And the Morning shows? crickets right?

    Meanwhile in Florida another scumbag Dem ad attacks Rep. Allen West. Given that West is AA if he was a Dem the cries of “racism” would echo across media land. Since he’s not …

    West Responds: Ad Depicting Him Beating White Women’Plays on Stereotypes’

    The super PAC behind the ad is American Sunrise PAC, which was founded with $250,000 by Thomas Murphy, the father of the Congressman’s opponent, Patrick Murphy.
    Yeah, no illegal collusion between a super PAC and a candidate going on there.

    When you consider the hyper-sensitive racial environment created by Obama’s Media Palace Guards, it’s not hard to imagine how they might react were this a pro-Romney super PAC ad showing Obama beating an old white woman senseless.

    more: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/09/Allen-West-Responds-To-Attack-Ad

    • getfitnow

      And many in the media are equating Romney’s ad–Welfare with this sewer sludge of an ad. These people have no shame.

      • KenoshaMarge

        Media has had no shame since it fell into a slobbering love affair with Obama. Their failure to remain the “public’s” watchdog borders on treason IMO. I loathe them more than the scummy pols who infest out nation’s capital.

      • getfitnow

        I did find this. a good exchange on the subject.
        http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/social_issues/july-dec12/poverty_08-09.html

  • Flop_Flipper

    Bronwyn, thank you for the intensely defended update. No need to agree with your position as it speaks for itself. Nothing anyone could add could dispute it.

    Either this guy is just so aggrieved from the loss of his wife and is lashing out at Romney because he cannot handle the truth of his own (ir)responsibility for what happened, or he has taken up acting as a new profession and has been paid by Obama’s SuperPAC to provide a fairly good performance.

    • getfitnow

      Not to diminish the loss of a spouse but in all of this, I heard that he has remarried.

      • KenoshaMarge

        Supposedly his childhood sweetheart. He also now has an income of about $46,000.00 a year. Boo-hoo for him. He’s nothing but a Dem operative who was willing to use his dead wife to attack Mitt Romney. No sympathy from me for this POS!

        • Flop_Flipper

          So maybe the reason he couldn’t afford insurance was because he was paying for his mistress? It would also explain why he hadn’t noticed his wife was becoming progressively ill. Just sayin…… /snark.

          • jrterrier

            no need to snark. according to the senate majority leader, a DEM from Nevada, it’s ok to repeat anything that comes into your head and demand that the other person prove you wrong.

            • Flop_Flipper

              I’m not about to base my moral observations by the slimy standard set by Reid, Pelosi, Obama, libs in general and other miscreants.

        • jrterrier

          he’s a union member. no more, no less. hope some enterprising reporter finds that he was having an affair on his wife a la Johnny Edwards.

          • KenoshaMarge

            The press investigate a Democrat and a Union member? Surely you jest. s/ Or maybe not so s/

  • getfitnow

    Does anyone know if Mr Soptic tried to get another job?

    This sense of entitlement is mind boggling to me

    • Flop_Flipper

      He certainly has a job in the Obama campaign.

    • jrterrier

      yes, he says he got a job as a school janitor, but that it paid less. the new job provided health insurance for him but it didn’t pay enough for him to buy insurance for his wife. except she had a job with health insurance, which she later lost after she was involved in an accident.
      oh, and yes, he was offered a buyout by Bain, not sure whether he took the money. .

  • getfitnow

    Lanny Davis also had a thing or two to say about these insane thugs. Can’t find the comment, but essentially said they need to apologize.

    • Flop_Flipper

      Here is one gem from Davis on ABC:

      “Bill Burton needs to go back to ethics school,” Davis said of the group’s senior strategist, who is a former Obama White House spokesman.
      “He knows perfectly well that the ad is misleading and disgusting and he needs to apologize for it.”

  • HELENK2

    http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/index.html#/v/1778923178001/deli-owner-fears-losing-customers-because-of-obama/?playlist_id=86925

    this business owner is non political. listen as she tells how the DNC in her city called her employee a liar

    • Flop_Flipper

      Findlay Market is a must stop for any national candidate. It’s the oldest open market in the state and I’ve shopped there many times. Once when I was there, Michael Dukakis actually touched me (not in some weird
      way other than he touched me) and it gave me the willies. I mean, seriously, the dude felt so cold I wasn’t sure if he was living.

  • HELENK2
  • jrterrier

    And don’t forget this comes after the last time the Obama campaign jumped the shark accusing Romney of being a felon, without any proof. On that occasion, everyone said that the charge was unprecented and beyond the pale.

    “On just every level, this ad stretches the bounds of common sense and decency” but only until the next time they go beyond all bounds.

  • Propertius

    It defies credibility that your wife never exhibited any symptoms before you took her to an ER with pneumonia.

    It depends. Small cell lung cancer progresses very quickly and is often asymptomatic until it’s quite advanced. The first symptom my late mother had was, of all things, a sore knee (from a metastasis to her femur). At that point it had spread not only to her bones, but her liver and adrenal glands, as well.

    Other than that, great post.

    • Flop_Flipper

      Yep. When my cousin was diagnosed with cancer there were very few symptoms (other than what appeared to be a flu) until toward the end. All of a sudden he became weak and not long afterward died.

  • HELENK2
  • HELENK2
    • Flop_Flipper

      Obama is a wus. Too funny.

  • HELENK2

    considering the response from the Romney campaign on this lying ad, maybe he should check to see he has no “patti solis doyles” planted in his campaign staff

    • Flop_Flipper

      I find it rather interesting that the Obot gang seems to be doing a fine job of criticizing their Dear Leader all by their selves despite the weak response from Romney’s press secretary. I don’t think she is a very effective spokesperson, but in this case, regardless of what she said, Obot heads have been exploding nationwide all on their own. It’s also more effective that the criticisms are coming from libs. I find it all very amusing.

      • DianaLC

        It is amusing, but……. at the same time, since the primary so many very good people–often women…have been trying to raise the issue of the O campaign’s dirty style of politics. We were hysterical women. We were conspiracy theorists. The AA women were Uncle Toms, etc. I won’t be happy until the MSM gets on their collective knees and admits their sins from ’08 to the present (at least since then).

  • shelldoll2

    When the usual die hard Obama supporters say you’ve gone too far you have. When Democrats say publicly they are appalled you might want to re-think your strategy.

    This ain’t Chicago. You’re dealing with the American public and some are not happy.

    When some of your base that believed in you are upset you might want to listen.

    Some want the old Obama back. You mean the one with large crowds, swooning women, Greek columns, and promises to heal the earth, the economy, and end all wars, and close Gitmo?

    The old Obama didn’t keep his outrageous promises. I can’t believe anyone could believe he will do a better job with another term.

    • Flop_Flipper

      I would like to believe that even the Obama campaign more intelligent than their silly fool Obot surrogates like lola and Burton, those that believe this type of attack is within bounds. But I would prefer them to ignore the obvious outrage and continue to cross lines.

      The video below featuring Michele Malkin offers some very entertaining information. She says what some of us have been whispering; that this is evidence that the Obama campaign and the Obama SuperPAC are in obvious collusion. A federal crime that even Eric Holder cannot ignore. And the facts pointing to this are quite substantial.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WkNMZGciELU

      • Propertius

        A federal crime that even Eric Holder cannot ignore.

        I wouldn’t bet on that. After all, it looks like he’s managed to ignore Goldman-Sachs:

        http://news.yahoo.com/doj-not-prosecute-goldman-sachs-financial-crisis-probe-003911643–abc-news-politics.html

        I’m sure he can ignore pretty much anything if there’s a political upside.

        • Flop_Flipper

          You are likely right. But I can dream. ;-}

        • arabella_trefoil

          If Obama can’t hide something, Michelle can always eat it.

          • Flop_Flipper

            Or force school children to eat it.

          • KenoshaMarge

            Didn’t Obama say not to get between Michelle and a taco? Going after the Hispanic vote or the food industry vote?
            Perhaps if the Asian vote was larger he’ll be talking of her sprint for an eggroll. Although I don’t think that’s the ass of a sprinter.
            Or is talking about ethnic food racism? I get so confused.

      • DianaLC

        Hannity has been suggesting this possible collusion should be investigated. There is no such thing as swift justice now. I wouldn’t hold my breath. I actualy feel that one of the best results of O losing the election would be Holder getting his ass kicked out of office nd getting a real AG.

        • KenoshaMarge

          Expecting “justice” from a DOJ headed by Eric Holder is like expecting nutrition from a Twinkie.

        • jrterrier

          The campaign would probably have to file a complaint with the Fed Election Committed but supposedly it is currently controlled by 3 Dems & 3 Republicans so you cannot expect anything of susbstance pre-election.
          maybe judicial watch can do a FOIA request. that’s how we find out all the good stuff.

    • getfitnow

      The “old Obama” was a figment of their imagination. This is business as usual for these thugs. But, as you point out, America ain’t Chicago.

    • KenoshaMarge

      The “old” Obama was the same POS as the “new” Obama. He just hid it better. Easy to do when the media doesn’t bother to “vet” you. Too busy slobbering to do their damn job. Most still are.

      • jrterrier

        another great one. this would be a better response than Ms. Saul’s response.
        There’s got to be a good spokesperson out there — for either campaign.

        • KenoshaMarge

          There are good people on both sides of the aisle. But not as many as are needed. When ideology trumps character and decency then they are no longer “good” people. Funny how the media excoriated Romney for fighting dirty during the GOP primary and mostly stays silent on accusations by the left of Romney being a felon, a tax evader, and now a killer.
          Who took the low road?

    • Dissentispatriotic

      The old Obama was a fantasy in the minds of sheeple. You can’t re-dream what seemed like a great dream. It was never real.

  • FormerLiberal9

    I don’t know much about lung cancer but isn’t it usually attributed to outside causes such as smoking, second hand smoke or other environmental causes?

    Also the Obama team reminds me of a young girl I once knew who I believe was a psychopathic liar. When I would catch her in a lie she would simply try to cover that with another lie Ad infinitum. Her voice or facial expressions never changed. She never showed any shame or remorse for the lie. She just kept lying until you bought one of her tales. She just didn’t care or have any sense of decency. I can forgive her because I knew her personal history and the extreme abuse and neglect she suffered in her family. But for Obama and his despicable crew I can find no excuse. Win at any cost, a total lack of moral values.

    • DianaLC

      That is a definite sign of a narcissist.

    • Flop_Flipper

      It may be 10 years from now but I think there will be undeniable evidence that also links lung cancer with the exhaust from petrochemicals used in vehicles and VOCs.

  • HARP2

    Just in case you libs want to continue the lie.

    OBAMA CAMPAIGN NOW ADMITS THEY KNEW DETAILS BEHIND ANTI-ROMNEY CANCER AD

    Obama campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki acknowledged Thursday that the
    campaign was no longer pleading ignorance about the story of a man who
    has appeared in both a super PAC ad and a campaign ad.

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/08/09/obama-campaign-lie-caught-on-tape/

    • DianaLC

      So can we get fast justice here and have them pay the penalty for working together with a Super Pac?

    • getfitnow

      I guess when that conference call surfaced with Mr. Soptic, basically saying the same things and That One’s campaign manager (forget her name) was moderating this event, they couldn’t ignore the truth anymore. Unbelievable.

  • no_longer_a_democrat

    Browyn.. omg, great great post!

    Joe Sestak, well what can I say the “democratic” party is one of radical lunatics now, I used to be a conservative/moderate dem, there is no place in the party for me, except they like calling me a racist bitter clinger. I’m an independent and staying that way from now on.

    The ad, I hope Bill burton and Cutter continue to make these ads, just shows what jackasses these political chicago thugs are. Everyday they destroy the dem brand and the country, one day at a time.

    • Flop_Flipper

      I’m with you. Please keep crossing lines. Pretty please.

    • getfitnow

      He’s saying basically the same things as Artur Davis. This is not the same Democratic Party.

      I still, however, have a problem with anyone that voted for “Affordable Healthcare.”