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The Dishonor in Dishonorable Disclosures

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A group of retired military and intelligence officers with ties to the Republican Party are out with a short film blasting, deservedly so, Barack Obama and his Administration for leaking sensitive military and intelligence secrets. The charges the group levels are correct.

If you have not seen the film, here it is:

I have one fundamental problem with this movie–the hypocrisy of some of the message bearers. A couple of the folks venting in this film about Obama’s loose lips were cheerleading Bush’s leaks that exposed secrets, such as Valerie Plame’s covert status. I also must point out that several of the folks in this film are not and have never been cleared into the SAP that governs the unit of the SEALS that killed Bin Laden. Specifically, Fred Rustmann, Paul Vallely and Jaime Williamson. What do I mean by “SAP?”

A SAP is central to the question, “who has access to this information?” SAP is the acronym for Speacil Access Program. It is a level of classification above SECRET and TOP SECRET. You can have a TOP SECRET clearance but, if you are not “READ ON” to this particular SAP you will not know about the particulars of how they operate and what their missions are.

I am always amused by folks like Rustmann and Vallely talking about this particular program when neither have ever been deemed as having the “need to know.” Neither were ever given access to the code word this program operates under.

I find the decsion to use Fred Rustmann in this piece particularly disquieting. He was Chief of Station at a post in the Mediterranean when Valerie Plame Wilson, who was undercover as a State Department officer, worked for in a neighboring station (Valerie had served as an intern for Rustmann at Headquarters while in the Career Trainee Program. Subsequent to that assignment Valerie became a non-official cover officer). Rustmann, who was no longer at the CIA when Valerie made that move, took it upon himself to go public when Valerie’s name was exposed in July 2003, and defended those who leaked her name. He insisted that Valerie was only under, “light cover.” What an ignorant fool he is. He was not around the CIA when Valerie moved into the realm of non-official cover.

If reporters really want to have some fun, they ought to be asking why Rustmann left the CIA. Most of the world does not know that Rustmann’s CIA career ended under a cloud that followed his work as Chief of Station in a post in the Med. I am told by sources who were familiar with the matter, that Rustmann was accused of taking religious icons from an ancient church in Cyprus. The result of this was an investigation and an early retirement for Rustmann. Having Fred Rustmann complain about Obama’s misuse of classified information is like having Heidi Fleiss complain about legalized prostitution at the Bunny Ranch in Nevada. Pot calls kettle black.

The final irony is that I find myself agreeing with Rustmann and Vallely and the others about the egregious breaches of security committed by Obama and his National Security team. Once again we are seeing political animals leaking classified info for pure, political advantage. The main difference between me and them is that I pilloried Bush and Cheney for the same kind of bad behavior. These guys are only directing fire in one direction. This should not be a partisan issue. It is about national security.

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  • lola828

    Your only problem with this “swift-boating” is because some of these guys helped tar Valerie Plame Wilson?

    You are completely nuts? However, not a surprise, given the type of website you run?

    What do you think of Romney’s and Ryan’s military experience? Or even their experience in foreign affairs?

    “The final irony is that I find myself agreeing with Rustmann and Vallely and the others about the egregious breaches of security committed by Obama and his National Security team. Once again we are seeing political animals leaking classified info for pure, political advantage. ”

    After many posts on this issue, you Larry Johnson, have not proven that any major or significant breaches of security have been committed by the Obama Adminstration. Just your bullshit complaining about the story told about the taking-out of Bin Laden. No big deal.

    More importantly and more real what do you think about Romney kissing the ring of Netanyahu? Should make Sheldon Adelson happy, no? Does Romney and the Republican Party kissing Netanyahu’s ass encourage Israel to go ahead and attack Israel?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zissa-Ramani/100003329451278 Zissa Ramani

    SHAME ON ALL OF YOU

    Wow I sure counted many treasonous dual American Israeli citizens here. How much money did you profit off this racist video a hate crime maybe threw AIPAC ZOA funneled money? Serving another nations racist laws like Hitler had in place? Working against the American peoples best interest so Israeli can beg for more money off our tax slavery while our nation goes broke. How much money are we forced to give Israeli each year supporting there veterans better than American vets? Israelis bigot laws calling others GOYS lower forums of humans to be used to work as tax slaves so they have a better nation beautiful off the slavery of USA. You need to learn racial slavery laws Israeli followers,

    Lets talk about hate crimes raping Naval daughter as myself done by an Israeli causing me to be on life support half my guts cuts out had to learn to walk again.

    Then my Naval father was investigated by these Israelis Zionist thugs in USA while he laid dying in a VA Hospital in Muskogee Oklahoma.

    Then you have racist Diann Fienstein dual Israeli citizen up on your video when she helped that Israeli?

    All this Zionist propagandist false intelligence reports to cause conflict for Zionist hate crimes groups who attacks Americans inside USA. Your condoning it all for money donations to the racist white supremacy causes Zionist.

    Lets we never forget The USS LIBERTY wow what kind of a Nation betrays Americans serving this Nation for Israeli? Did you know majority Israelis are Russian Communist Converts not even Jewish who came out of Russian after the fall? Now that is real intelligence reporting from the inside.

    Lets we never forget the dual Israeli American citizens who profited from 9/11 shortly after they bought the Twin Towers just Google it. How interesting to have insured them many times over in different insurance polices? They knew before they bought them they had to tear down the towers because the New York Port authority ordered it demolished.

    I know how dual citizens Zionist Israelis work those insurance polices even rape policies Israeli Zionist have insurance to pay for Zionist lawyers to persecute NAVAL families in USA after they rape there daughters even when they are convicted of rape crimes they persecute NAVAL families.

    Anything for a penny right even attacking raping Americans in USA? You swore to defend women and children your COMRADES? —-The Big Lies BETRAYAL. .Baby murders for Israel AIPAC- ZOA bigots.

    I know all about Zionist silent the victims crimes ask any USS LIBERTY Veteran still alive that was not murdered by Israeli. ..

  • HObama HObamanana

    I remember reading the Pentagon Papers when I was in high school. I’m glad that someone leaked them. It helped to bring an end to the war.

  • Dave L.

    Longtime CIA operative Fred Rustmann tells Newsmax that the liberal writer who
    called Navy SEALs gutless is either “very brave” or “very
    stupid.”

    Rustmann, a member of a new political action committee that
    includes former SEALs, also says the Obama administration’s intelligence leaks
    that led to the writer’s comment could ultimately cost the lives of intel
    sources.

    And former SEAL Brandon Webb agrees, saying the leaking of
    sensitive information could kill Americans and put our national security at
    risk.

    Rustmann’s PAC, the Special Operations OPSEC Education Fund, posted
    a 22-minute video on the Internet criticizing the Obama administration’s
    decision to grant filmmakers access to intelligence material for their upcoming
    movie about the killing of Osama bin Laden.

    Bin Laden was killed on May
    2, 2011, by a team of Navy SEALs who attacked his compound in Pakistan, and the
    video asserts that the intelligence leaks could have dire national security
    implications.

    In response, a writer for the liberal, George Soros-funded
    website Media Matters, Eric Boehlert, tweeted that “former Navy SEALs don’t have
    guts to admit they’re running a GOP, anti-Obama campaign.”

    In an
    exclusive interview with Newsmax.TV on Friday, Rustmann — who spent 24 years in
    the CIA — says of Boehlert: “He’s either a very brave guy or very stupid guy to
    call a Navy SEAL gutless. It’s beyond me.”

    To serve as a SEAL or as an
    intelligence operative in the CIA, he adds, “you have to have some serious
    guts.

    “This is very risky business and when people leak our sources and
    methods — well, there’s one fellow, a Pakistani doctor, who is now in jail for
    33 years” because the Pakistanis believe he helped Americans locate bin
    Laden.

    “Everybody from the Pakistani intelligence service through the
    Taliban and down to al-Qaida are looking for individuals who were in that area
    at the time who might have been working for the CIA and were involved in the
    operation to locate and kill Osama bin

    Read more on Newsmax.com: Navy
    SEALs PAC Rips Liberal Website for ‘Gutless’ Comment
    Important: Do You
    Support Pres. Obama’s Re-Election? Vote
    Here Now!

  • HELENK2

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/08/18/egypts-muslim-brotherhood-president-to-visit-iran-first-time-in-decades/

    backtrack united something
    Egypt’s muslim brotherhood president to visit Iran, first time in decades

  • HELENK2

    off topic

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/08/18/pakistan-11-year-old-christian-girl-arrested-for-blasphemy-accuses-of-burning-the-koran/

    I just read this Pakistan police arrest an 11 year old girl for blasphemy accused for burning the koran. The girl has downes syndrome.
    the people are just a bunch of sickos with no redeeming value

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      Actually, Christians used to be just as ignorant during the era of the Crusades. Give them a few more centuries and they should be just fine.

      • HObama HObamanana

        I’d rather not take the chance that you might be wrong. And besides, these folks are going backward in time. Or as Obama would say: Forward.

  • Popsmoke

    The real terrible part of this is that all of the anti-leak legislation is targeted at everyone else except those who need it the most…

  • HARP2

    Sorry for OT but I really DID laugh out loud at this.

    Obama Campaign: “We’re Purposely Limiting Attendance”

    Obama’s and Biden’s campaign events have been marked recently by less
    than impressive attendance. Meanwhile, attendance at Mitt’s events have
    been overwhelming.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2920185/posts

    • HoosierinDixie

      It is funnier that he is refusing to do any interviews except with places like Entertainment Tonight or The View. He even turned down his pal Chris “Tingles” Matthews because Romney/Ryan might use his words against him.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Stephanie Clutter actually said this morning on CNN that the reason Obama was giving these interviews was because that is where most Americans get their news.

    • arabella_trefoil

      So much easier to hold events in hotel bathrooms, don’t you think? That way is someone has to take a leak, he won’t miss any of the conversation. Plus fresh water is readily available.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jo-Freespirit/100000801917982 Jo Freespirit

      Well, that just makes perfect sense. I’ll bet they’re turning down campaign contributions, too After all, when you’re running for office, the last thing you want to be bothered with is huge adoring crowds of supporters and money. lol.

    • HObama HObamanana

      What made me laugh out loud are the folks that believe Biden’s chains comment was a gaffe, as if it wasn’t specifically planned and sanctioned by the Obama campaign. It also makes me laugh out loud when I read that some people believe that Biden getting the weekend off was some kind of punishment. It’s a reward for a job well done.

  • TrumanTown

    This video is crap. The Seals did the mission in Pakistan, advertised their presence down the road from an Army installation by firing shots, and left a wrecked Top Secret aircraft on the ground, and no one is supposed to know it happened? The local Pakistani media were reporting on attack right away. Obama had to announce the mission earlier than planned because all kinds of false rumors were circulating in the media already. Pictures of the wrecked helicopter were on the web the minute it was light, and anyone who knew anything about helicopters could tell it was a highly secret advanced design because of the shape of the rotor, along with accounts from local residents of the peculiar sounds they made coming in. Everyone in the region knew that the Seals were the only special forces capable of doing such a mission. The only way to keep this mission totally secret was to not do it. When you kill bin Ladin in Pakistan down the street from a military installation in the age of the internet, most things will be known. But there are still a number of things that are not known that involve methods and technologies, and they’ll probably stay that way. Don’t fall for a bunch of political garbage.

    • shelldoll2

      I know what they are. We had the internet as well. You don’t reveal this type of information via the internet. You have no idea what you’re talking about.. Unless you want to go to jail. Bush bunch Obama bunch equally bad.

    • Hokma

      What about all the other leaks?

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      You are dead ass wrong. If the President had kept his mouth shut, the Pakistanis would have had a devil of a time explaining what happened. A US cover story, that the helo went down while transporting a training mission to Pakistan’s capital, would have survived scrutiny. You are assuming a whole load of shit you really know nothing about.

    • HObama HObamanana

      Don’t fall for a bunch of political garbage.

      Now don’t you worry your pretty little head Oborg about that. Ain’t gonna happen.

  • no_longer_a_democrat

    OT, I saw this Drudge and just thought, here is this idiot senator who’s more concerned about hooking people up than doing his damn job!

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/18/nyregion/senator-senator-make-me-a-match-for-staff-schumer-is-cupid.html?_r=2

    • arabella_trefoil

      Look, everybody knows that Schumer loves free food, having his photo taken, and being lifted up on a chair as people dance around him. I’m sure he gives fabulous wedding presents, such as autographed photos of himself.

  • HARP2

    Thank God we didn`t have this administration before June 6 1944

  • KenoshaMarge

    If a bandwagon is going by there are always those who climb on who aren’t worthy of getting a ride. Even scumbags can be right about things once in a while.

    The hypocrisy stinks even if the message is stellar.

    There can be little doubt that the Obama White House leaked for political advantage. That isn’t, or shouldn’t be, acceptable from either party. Partisanship that carries you into approving things that harm the security of the country borders on treason IMO. Again, that means ANYONE that does it. Party affiliation be damned!

  • Popsmoke

    i
    I totally agree LJ.. What these guys did was Swiftboat a very serious issue.

  • no_longer_a_democrat

    “This should not be a partisan issue. It is about national security.”

    Completely agree, and I saw one of the gentlemen on an interview on Fox say that they plan to keep this PAC around like a watchdog so that no matter who is in power, they will hold them to account if national security info is leaked. And for that, I think these guys, gals are doing a tremendous additional service, in addition to serving our country.

  • DianaLC

    OFF TOPIC: They’ve been advertising that film 2015 on many of the Denver stations. I thought I might buy some popcorn and go to a theater to watch it. Big problem for me, however. I’ve checked and so far the only theaters in the state showing it are in Colorado Springs, and hour’s drive from my house in the far northern suburbs of Denver. I know that Colorado Springs with the Air Force Academy, the Army Base, and Focus on the Family is the Republican Center of CO, but give me a break. Tere ARE Republicans in Denver too.
    Has anyone seen the film? Would it be worth my time to find someone to drive with me for a day?

  • no_longer_a_democrat

    and really Dems and Barry sotero?, you idiots are going to call the navy seals “gutless” over this ad??

    bunch of ivory tower punks in chicago.

  • no_longer_a_democrat

    I was very pissed when I learned Cheney went after Joe Wilson over the whole yellow cake or something to africa, was it Niger?, trip, which eventually led to Plame’s outing.

    So, now the WH through Tom dolinion?, according to many reports, is openly releasing info which will hurt our troops and american interests.

    So if repubs do it, bad, if dems do it, good & no biggie, really dems, this is YOUR standard now??

    • HObama HObamanana

      Democrats have no moral core. That is why left the party. They prove my decision was right every single day.

  • Retired_from_SPOnaj

    I. too, was surprised when Fred characterized Valerie’s cover as “light.” And not just because I had reasonably good knowlege of the mechanics of nonofficial cover, having served in that component longer than any other during my Agency career. Rather, I was surprised at Fred’s apparent inability, as a former COS, to understand that exposure of a “light” cover may well put those who may be using that cover for their clandestine activities in just as much mortal danger as exposure of a “deep” cover. If we can’t rely on a COS to understand this, who can we depend on?
    But then an old friend of mine, coincidentally a retired NOC, put this in perspective. “A courtesan de marque has the discretion to choose her clients carefully, a street whore less so with her customers.” As usual, he nailed it, which is probably why he retired from the Senior NOC Service (a distinction indeed) and has never been seen on TV or video, ever. A pure espionage operator.

    • TeakWoodKite

      Perhaps you should ask ‘Fred’ why it is this way with him?
      I am always curious about someone who has the backround this Fred has and does not respect the fine point you make.
      I am not privy to anything but the finely redacted book Mrs. Wilson wrote, but even I know if she was working on WMD, and her being exposed roled up any Irainian operations…see where that got us.

      • Retired_from_SPOnaj

        It’s indeed an intriguing phenomenon when a senior espionage professional “goes political” at the expense of tradecraft and, worse, a specific colleague. I’ve seen it a couple of times, never understood it, and probably never will. However, I put such a person in the same class as a president or other public servant who decides that the special or intelligence operator or asset on the far side of the frontier of freedom is less important than the domestic political exingency of the moment.

        • Popsmoke

          Well said…

          • TeakWoodKite

            What LZ man said.

        • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

          Great, wise comments.

    • TeakWoodKite

      Ideologues can’t fly under the rader, it’s not in their nature. It must be contrary to the effective intel personality type, as a pragmatic realist is less apt to twist the facts. Stay frosty with a smile. :)

  • http://justthefaqz.wordpress.com/ Rocketman13

    I have issues with people that complain when one side violates principles they claim to hold sacrosanct but not when the other side does so. What they are saying still has merit but it taints the credibility of their message, weakening it’s effectiveness.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jo-Freespirit/100000801917982 Jo Freespirit

      Exactly. This kind of hypocrisy not only tarnishes the messenger, it diminishes the credibility of the message.

      On conservative radio, the right wing nuts still claim that Plame’s outing was nothing. I heard a pundit, blinded by the right, make that claim just two weeks ago, while slamming Obama for the recent leaks. This idiot was literally screaming in to the mic, saying that because Plame was “not even active” at the time she was outed, this despicable and criminal act by Bush’s Boys, was in no way comparable to the Obama leaks.

      On both sides – the BSers are trying to BS the BSers.

      • no_longer_a_democrat

        yep, why should it matter if a repub did it or a dem did, BOTH are wrong to do.

        Why is this just a hard concept for these partisans on both sides to get! Do they think on american passports, it says “dem” or “repub”, it just says “american”!

        I find it so interesting all these dems now acting like leaking major classified in no biggie, bunch of hypocrites! and then calling the seals who did this ad “gutless”, could the dems/left get anymore disgusting!

  • foxyladi14

    leaks are never good.

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      I disagree. There are occasions when the powers that be are flat out lying to the people. Gulf of Tonkin in Vietnam was one example. A leak to expose wrong doing has an appropriate place. Those who do the leaking, however, need to be prepared to bear the consequences.

      • TeakWoodKite

        That is the great difference. Exposing wrong doing as apposed to pure political or economical gain.
        Then I would ask is it treason to expose wrong doing? Even if it creates much damage in the process?

      • Craig Della Penna

        Absolutely on target, Larry. I’ve never understood how anyone could think differently about this.

      • Justine00

        Many cases of “lying to the people” these days…
        .

  • HELENK2

    The bush bunch was wrong in leaking the name of a CIA officer. I always understood that was the reason there were stars not names on the wall for the fallen agents. That was an unforgivable breach.
    The backtrack bunch through their ignorance and trying to make a weak president look strong gave away national intelligence. That is treason.
    Both bunches hurt this country by making our allies think we could not be trusted. It will take years to regain that trust, if we ever do.
    both bunches exemplified the “ugly american” ideal that many in the world have of America

  • HELENK2
    • TeakWoodKite

      In contrast, the Republicans have a candidate with absolutely no foreign policy experience, who thinks Russia is our “number one geopolitical foe”

      Kerry isn’t that bright.

      • HoosierinDixie

        “Kerry isn’t that bright.”
        Rumor has it that Lurch is Obama’s choice to replace Hillary as SOS. Reason enough to vote Romney/Ryan.

        • arabella_trefoil

          Great choice. I don’t care if Obama picks Larry Johnson as his running mate. I still won’t vote for Obama.

          • TeakWoodKite

            Me thinks Larry would make a great POTUS.
            (in my best Forest voice) Run, Larry, Run!
            LOL.

            • HObama HObamanana

              I prefer him as NoQUS.

              • TeakWoodKite

                Well played. :)

          • KenoshaMarge

            Me neither. Although it would be tempting.;)

        • TeakWoodKite

          That would put the “…—…” in SOS alright.

      • HELENK2
        • TeakWoodKite

          Isn’t sooo nicce that they decided to vacation in the Gulf of Mexco? Perhaps sunning themselves on an abandon oil rig?

      • Hokma

        I remember Kerry. He’s the guy that got those 3 purple hearts under strange circumstances and then came home to turn against his fellow soldiers to further his own political career. He got what was long coming to him.

        • HObama HObamanana

          They should have given him another purple heart for marrying his wife. No doubt, he earned it.

  • TeakWoodKite

    The world of secrets have a price. BO sells them cheaper than Aldrich Hazen Ames.
    Spot on Larry. No one should get to walk who commits treason.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      Funny, I always remember Rick Ames as the old guy smoking in the outside space between the old and new Hqs buildings. He seemed to harmless, almost feckless. A good object lesson for counterintelligence types.