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I’m Shocked! A tainted Dem Poll influences Akin’s decision to stay in MO senate race?

From Power Line’s post, “TAINTED POLL BY DEM OUTFIT OFFERS AKIN INCENTIVE NOT TO QUIT”:

A PPP poll, taken after Todd Akin’s infamous comment about rape, puts him in a virtual tie with Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill in the Missouri Senate race. According to that poll, Akin leads McCaskill by 44-43. That’s the same margin by which he led the Senator in PPP’s most recent previous poll, which found Akin ahead by 45-44.

Akin can cite this poll as a reason to remain in the race. After all, it purports to show that his offensive comment hasn’t changed the race at all.

Unfortunately, that finding is absurd. Moreover, it comes from a flawed poll. As Ed Morrissey points out, PPP significantly oversampled Republicans. Republicans made up 39 percent of those surveyed; Democrats were only 30 percent. Ed notes that even in the 2010 election, exit polls showed the GOP with only a 37-34 percent advantage.

PPP is a Democratic polling company that partners with the leftist outfit The Daily Kos. Typically, it’s [sic] polls do not significantly oversample Republicans. For example, in its previous poll, the one showing the race at 45-44 in favor of Akin, Democrats outnumbered Republicans.

[...]

The Democrats … reportedly spent more than $1 million in advertising designed to help Akin defeat his two more electable rivals.

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Another report that leaves me nearly speechless.

However, it is notable that Mitt Romney was front and center — and early — in asking Akin to step aside.

You see, Mitt Romney kinda needs Missouri to win the White House. But this Akin character could give a s–t what any Republican wants.

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  • lola828

    This post just shows you how funny both Powerline and NQ are. Imagine blame Democrats for Akin staying in the race. Funny stuff. A new low on NQ.

  • getfitnow

    And so the Mormon attacks begin, as I see it
    “There is a sickness out there in the Republican Party, and I’m not kidding.
    Maybe they don’t like their moms or their FIRST WIVES (my emphasis). I don’t
    know what it is.” – Barbara Boxer 8/21/2012

    There’s nothing I can add about Barbara Boxer. She’s proven
    time and time again she’s not a real woman, but a real idiot.

  • HELENK2

    http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/democrats-tie-gop-akin/2012/08/22/id/449319

    democrats using akin in several house races against GOP

  • HELENK2

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/dem-convention-becomes-anti-akin-affair/article/2505601#.UDTrtEJibk0

    the democratic convention will be thanking akin for the good times

  • HELENK2

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57497874/sources-akin-may-not-really-be-in-race-for-good/

    akin may not really be in the race for good.

    to me this makes it worse. So he sticks around to the last minute, not giving anyone else time to really make their case on why they should be elected and still can say ” well I dropped out for the good of the party and McCaskill still won.”
    He really has no respect for women. It is more than just his stupid idea of just what rape is. He is victimizing the victim all over again. He and his kind are why many women do not report rape. In his eyes rape is ok because what the tell she must of wanted it, she really did not mean it when she said no. He would also be one of the first to call any child resulting from the rape a bastard and the mother a whore

  • foxyladi14
  • jrterrier

    A “shovel-ready” ad for Romney. Romney builds thriving companies, OWS and their DEM sympathizers tear them down:

    “On Thursday the Occupy Tampa members will target the businesses associated with or saved by Bain Capital.
    Occupy Tampa and the Tampa Bay Regional General Assembly passed through consensus a resolution to send a national call to action, on the day Mitt Romney accepts the nomination, to shut down Bain Capital.

    Bain Capital Companies:
    Outback Steakhouse
    Carrabba’s Italian Grill
    Bonefish Grill
    Fleming’s Prime Steakhouse & Wine Bar
    Roy’s Hawaiian Fusion Cuisine
    Burlington Coat Factory
    Clear Channel Communications
    Dunkin’ Donuts
    Baskin Robbins
    Gymboree
    Hospital Corporation of America
    Michael’s Craft Store
    Toys’R’Us
    Staples
    The Princeton Review
    Work ‘N Gear

    On Friday the bussed in Occupy protesters will load up and return home.”

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/08/occupy-tampa-goons-post-rnc-convention-schedule/

    • Hokma

      Ironically the original Outback Restaurant is based in Tampa.

      What is their point in shutting down Bain? That was a rhetorical question because they have no point other than anarchy.

    • HoosierinDixie

      Let me guess….The Tampa Bay Regional General Assembly is a fancy term for LOCAL YAHOOS and crazy Joe Biden will be leading the charge.

    • HObama HObamanana

      I’m willing to wait and see what they actually do before reaching a conclusion. I do expect violence and destruction but who knows what will actually happen. If my expectations are met then you are absolutely correct.

      • foxyladi14

        Pray for a peaceful convention

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  • DianaLC

    Sarah Palin was so livid about Akin on Greta’s show last night that she could hardly put sentences together that made any sense. I think–but as I said it was hard to understand her point–that she may advise her Tea Party candidate to mount a campaign and run third party.
    I don’t know any of the regulations about whether that is possible right now. In any case, I need to say that men like Akin were the main reason I didn’t like Republicans much.
    You have the snooty, know-it-all progressives who turn my stomach in the Democratic Party and the leftovers from the Middle Ages in the Republican Party.
    I am just so tired, however, of the entire abortion debate. I’ve said this many times, I was in high school and debating it as a “new” issue in the mid 60s (along with the then new birth control issue). I clearly know how I feel about it.
    Dems now bring it up every campaign so that the cretins in the Republican Party can be tricked to show themselves. And several cretins in the Republican Party also bring it up just to try to stir their base. (Come on, now, though it’s a different issue, don’t forget Terri Schiavo for GWB.)
    Does any one really believe that Mitt Romney will do an Obamacare type move if he’s elected and waste two years trying to over-turn Roe v. Wade? I certainly hope he concentrates on the economy because “it’s the economy, stupid.”
    The Democrats got what they wanted in Missouri with this brouhaha. I am quite sure this whole incident was indeed part of their strategy somehow.
    On the other hand, I have been in Missouri enough to know that there is indeed a large population of religious conservative people living there. I’m not sure they believe the whole “legitimate” rape business or the weird reference to how a woman’s body can make decisions without her conscious brain being involved, so oversampled Republicans or not, Republicans there seem to approve of him.
    I did check the statistics. As far as I know, the percentage of abortions in our country from rape and incest is about 1%–and that number is mathematically derived, not from actual statistics, so it could be a little higher OR a little lower, since many rapes are committed on women who are on birth control or who are no longer of child-bearing age.
    Why are we wasting time on this issue? Don’t do what the Democrats are doing and keep shining the spotlight on this Gollum from Missouri.
    Love her or hate her, maybe Sarah is our Obi Wan Kenobi (i.e., last hope). Or thenm, maybe she’ll really mess things up and divide the Republican vote; who knows? (And excuse me for mixing my movie metaphors.)
    In any case, I have no way of trying to influence the Senate’s Party balance this November. All who have Senate races in your states need to concentrate on those.

    • HoosierinDixie

      I agree Diana. Every election we hear how the big bad Republicans are going to overturn ROE V. WADE and it never happens. This election needs to be about the economy, not wedge issues. Women do not vote as a block and I am willing to bet when all is said and done,the majority are more concerned with providing for their families rather than getting free birth control or abortions. Akin is a jerk and the people of Missouri are going to have to decide his fate. Lets focus on other senate races and taking the White House.

    • KenoshaMarge

      I intend to do just that. Unfortunately I will have to support Tommy Thompson. Ugh!
      But the alternative is Tammy Baldwin and for all that she’s trying to convince voters now that she’s “Wisconsin Nice”, she’s a far, far left candidate and was right in the thick of trying to recall Scott Walker. For that alone I would crawl through glass to vote against her. Even to vote for Tommy Thompson’s sorry old ass.

      • arabella_trefoil

        Desperate times/desperate measures.

        • KenoshaMarge

          I will do what I have to do. But just like in Missouri where they had a better candidate in Sarah Steelman, here in Wisconsin we had a better candidate in Mark Neumann. My only consolation in voting for Thompson is that at least he isn’t Akin.

      • foxyladi14

        lol Marge but at least you know his. lol

    • arabella_trefoil

      I agree with Diana. The Roe v. Wade has been used by the Democrats to scare people into NOT voting for Republicans. Notice, I did not say “to scare people into voting for Democrats.” Democrats would rather have you stay home if you don’t vote straight down the Dem ticket. That is just plain evil. Nothing will stop me from voting for Romney. I have great faith in Romney’s ability to play this Akin snafu off to his benefit. I think one way or another, Akin is going to uh, not be a factor in the election. (Disclaimer: May God protect Akin and his family and keep them from harm.)
      Meanwhile, we all know that this is same-old same-old for the Democrats who believe in the old lawyers’ saw “If you can’t pound the law pound the facts. If you can’t pound the facts pound the law. If you can’t pound the law or the facts pound the table.”

      • HObama HObamanana

        I’m with you on nothing will stop me from voting for Romney. Our country is in economic shambles and he is the right guy to fix it. But I’m starting to become seriously uncomfortable with the Republican party and may reconsider my previous decision to vote straight republican just because I despise the corrupt Dem party that much. I may leave the rest of my ballot blank this time around.

    • HObama HObamanana

      I found the 1% figure you used in a 1989 New York Times piece. ABC is using a figure from a 1996 piece. The following is a very recent statement by The American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists

      Each year in the US, 10,000–15,000 abortions occur among women whose pregnancies are a result of reported rape or incest. An unknown number of pregnancies resulting from rape are carried to term. There is absolutely no veracity to the claim that “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to shut that whole thing down.” A woman who is raped has no control over ovulation, fertilization, or implantation of a fertilized egg (ie, pregnancy). To suggest otherwise contradicts basic biological truths.

      Does it really matter what the percentages are?

      • DianaLC

        My point was simply that it’s an issue that doesn’t concern a really large percent of the population. It’s not my business really, especially given the laws today. And I don’t think there are very many politicians, if any, who are really going to make it far on this single issue. Though Rand Paul seems to worry about it a lot.

        • HObama HObamanana

          I agree that it really isn’t as big an issue as people from both major parties would have us believe. But I doubt that alone will stop the liberals and their media allies from attempting to make it into a big issue. It’s kinda like Mitt Romney’s tax returns. Most people care much more about their tax returns than anyone elses. But the slow and steady liberal/media cabal is intent on programming this supposed problem into the public’s mind so that it does become a real issue. Mindful folks like us ignore such things but most people don’t pay that much attention to what is going on and are easily swayed. It’s a matter of crowd psychology and the power of repetition. And it works.

          • DianaLC

            I think I made the same point. I am saying that even by discussing it here on this blog, we’ere falling into the trap provided by the Dems. My last sentence of my first post was that what we needed to do was let MO worry about its idiot Republican and the rest of us should concentrate where we can to change the balance of the Senate.

            • HObama HObamanana

              I hardly think that my discussing a situation is falling into the Democrat trap. But you are certainly entitled to your opinion, which I respect even if I disagree with it.

  • HELENK2
    • HObama HObamanana

      Or Afghanistan, or Egypt or any number of backward, Muslim dominated cultures.

  • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

    Akin is a cretin and an egotist.
    Akin’s hubris may hurt the Republican effort in Missouri. He can revel for now in his decision to stick, but money greases the wheels of campaigns and his bank account will dry up. He did not make a simple mistake in the use of words. Is he really that stupid? Does he really think that girls have a rape detector in their bodies that automatically kills unwelcome sperm? How any right thinking, sane person can excuse such gross ignorance defies reason. He is a pariah and has earned that status.
    If his point was to argue that a baby conceived by rape has a right to life, fine. Make that argument. But he did not. The Republican establishment correctly condemned this lunatic.

    • HObama HObamanana

      I agree with everything you say. I wonder how far the Republican establishment is willing to go to make certain he disappears from the stage of national discourse. Would they be willing to back another candidate and put out commercials stating that Akin doesn’t represent their values? Or will they just piss and moan, attempt to distance themselves and take the hit they all know is coming in the fall if this isn’t fixed immediately?

      • KenoshaMarge

        Sarah Palin is talking about a 3rd party candidate. Perhaps Sarah Steeleman? Is it too late for that? Wouldn’t it just split the conservative vote more?
        I don’t see much else that the GOP can do to rid themselves of this idiot. Maybe the puny little POS is enjoying all the attention.
        And you know damn well the Dems and their lapdog press is gonna pin this to the GOP for as long as possible.

        • HObama HObamanana

          There is some kind of law in MO that says that once a candidate has declared party affiliation during a primary that they are then unable to change party affiliation to run in a general election. So Steelman is out. And I do agree that having someone run as an Independent would just split the Republican vote and allow McCaskill to win.

          I do think that Akin is enjoying his little moment in the sun. He has even began running ads criticizing the party bosses for demanding he drop out. It’s an ego thing apparently. And you are of course correct that the Dems are going to paint this Akin thing right on every single Republican’s back and use it right up until the election.

          The only viable solution I see is to have someone like Huckabee (or anyone else Akin actually respects) have a long talk with him discussing the ramifications of his actions. Not knowing the Republican rules, I don’t know if it is possible for them to kick the guy out of the party, which would be the only other viable option besides borrowing a Keith Olbermann suggestion and taking the guy back to a room and only one person walks out.

          • KenoshaMarge

            Well there must be something that can be done. I think your suggestion about someone like Huckabee talking to this guy is the best bet.
            I do believe he’s enjoying all the attention, political egos being what they are. Although why someone would enjoy so much negative attention is beyond me. But then the thinking processes of most politicians are beyond me.

          • getfitnow

            I think it’s called “sore loser” law. No kidding.

    • EllenD818

      Thanks, Larry.
      For all the people who think there are no attacks on Roe vs Wade take a look at what the STATE legislatures have been passing.
      I am sick of the stupidity. This guy is on the Science Commitee?
      I’m all for only women being allowed to vote on reproduction. – OK jump on me for that. I’m just fed up.

  • BronwynsHarbor

    Here’s part of an LA Times article about a man who’s influenced Akin, “Todd Akin touts support from crusader who espoused theories on rape“:

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    [Dr. Jack Willke, founder of the International Right to Life Federation] and his wife, Barbara, are leading antiabortion advocates. Their book, first published in 1971, asserts that “assault rape” rarely results in pregnancy because the assault traumatizes the woman and makes her body less habitable.It’s “just downright unusual” for a woman to get pregnant from a rape, Willke said in an interview Monday.”This goes back 30 and 40 years. When a woman is assaulted and raped, there’s a tremendous amount of emotional upset within her body,” Willke said, adding that this trauma “can radically upset her possibility of ovulation, fertilization, implantation and even nurturing of a pregnancy.”It might also make a woman’s fallopian tubes “tight,” he said.Willke estimated that there are just one or two pregnancies for every 1,000 rapes.That contradicts research published in the Journal of American Obstetrics and Gynecology in the 1990s that found the occurrence of rape-related pregnancies is 5%. More than 32,000 women experience rape-related pregnancy every year, the research found.Willke’s book has gained currency among some conservative antiabortion activists.

    • HObama HObamanana

      Talk about your junk science.

  • BronwynsHarbor

    It’s remarkable how much air time that Fox News gave to the Akin story — almost ALL of having to do with the effect on the U.S. Senate if Akin loses to McCaskill.

    Do any of you recall Fox News — except for Megyn Kelly — mentioning how this will affect women everywhere who’ve been raped and impregnated?

    • HARP2

      I`m not sure about this but my understanding is, since the introduction of the morning after pill, all rape victims have the choice of taking it or not.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Your assumption relies upon someone reporting the rape. The FBI estimates that only 37% of rapes are even reported. And the Republican “platform” allows no “morning after pill” exception to rape victims. None.

        • HARP2

          Who gives a shit about platform ?
          No law saying ANYONE has to follow a particular party`s platform.

          • HObama HObamanana

            It’s a matter of image. It’s how the Republican party appears. And it fits in very neatly with the liberals plans to paint them as anti-women. It’s just a stupid move by the Republican party and tactically irresponsible.

            • HARP2

              The Dem platform endorses same-sex marriage for the first time and calls
              for the repeal of a federal law that denies federal marriage benefits
              to same-sex couples.

              I don`t believe all democrats will follow party line on this issue as it will be just as divisive.

              • HObama HObamanana

                I fundamentally disagree with the proposition that it’s ok to be stupid just because the other people are stupid. Maybe you are right and all of this will pass. But I kinda doubt it given that the liberals have already jumped all over this and they have a compliant media already prone to continuously bringing up Mitt Romney’s tax returns when there are so many real problems in our country.

                There are times to take risks and times to play it safe. Going into a Convention that will finally allow Mitt Romney to define himself to the American people is not the time to be taking risks by giving the media a story they will keep harping (no pun intended) on about until the election.

          • getfitnow

            I agree Harp. BTW, does anyone know what DEM platform allows?

    • HObama HObamanana

      Here is how the Onion covers it. Yes, it is satire, but it speaks volumes about the idiocy of this man Akin and anyone that supports him.

      Pregnant Woman Relieved To Learn Her Rape Was Illegitimate.

  • Malcolm_Reynolds

    Akin is a useful cretin to McCaskill and the Democratic Party. They want him to stay because they know that his candidacy will only antagonize more moderates and independents in Missouri into voting for McCaskill or stay away from voting in November instead of voting Republican. Plus, he serves as a useful distraction from Obama’s dismal performance in terms of job creation and the economy. Watch them point to him as a prime example of what the GOP thinks about women if Romney wins and/or if the GOP controls both houses of Congress.

    • BronwynsHarbor

      Very well said, MR.

    • KenoshaMarge

      The more the media talks about Akin the idiot, the less they have to talk about Biden the idiot. One is running for the Senate and one just happens to be Vice President of the frakkin United States. Akin’s impact, even if he won would be minimal. Biden? Veep? Heartbeat away?

    • HObama HObamanana

      They have already started the campaign to place this on the shoulders of Romney. Ryan’s co-sponsoring of a bill supported by Akin is a direct link. The Republican platform is another. So, and I hate to say this, the liberals have a “legitimate” point. Worse still, if Romney is too forceful in his condemnation or shifts positions to moderate his views he will alienate conservatives and give the libs more flip flopping ammunition. This Akin shit couldn’t have happened at a more inopportune time.

      • beachnan

        If I understood it correctly, the right to life clause has been a part of the Republican platform for eons. However, you will notice, not one Republican president has challenged Roe v Wade. Again, I think this is just a big stick the Democrats use to keep the women in their party in line.

  • HARP2

    So if the female body does not reject the pregnancy the woman must have “wanted it”. (The Rape )

    • BronwynsHarbor

      And note the legislation — backed I’m sorry to say by Paul Ryan — that uses the adjective “aggravated” — to define rape. Making it –

      “AGGRAVATED RAPE”

      – When, I’d like to know, is rape not aggravated?

      – Sad to say, Ryan is one of the GOP House members opposed to allowing abortion in the cases of “aggravated rape” and incest.

      – Btw, that adjective did get dropped eventually from the legislation, so now all a woman has to do is be raped, and she still can’t consider having an abortion.

      – I’ve never gotten pregnant due to rape, aggravated or not. Thank god. But, I have NO WAY of knowing how I would feel about abortion as an option. So much would have depended on my age, my economic circumstances, my family (all of whom would have been VERY pro-abortion in that case), WHO the rapist was — although I believe that such tendencies are somewhat genetic as well as behavioral. I just don’t know how I would react. But I sure as hell would NEED to have the option. In fact, HAVING THE OPTION would make it more likely for me to rationally figure out what to do. BEING FORCED to have the child — well, that’d be somewhat like being raped all over again.

      It’s great that Ryan is a Catholic, etc., etc. But he doesn’t have a CLUE how he’d react if he were a woman or — as horrific as it sounds — if that woman were his wife or his daughter.

      I am stunned that the wording about rape and incest is being considered for the GOP platform. And that, I think I heard, it’s been included for the last 20 years. Good grief.

      • HObama HObamanana

        The same people that claim to hold all life sacred are usually the same folks chomping at the bit to go to war.

  • HELENK2

    what I do not understand is akin keeps talking about his principles. What does downplaying the trauma and possible consequences of rape have to do with principles?

    • BronwynsHarbor

      He’s a religious nut. Oh yeah … he’s also a man.

      Furthermore, I infer from his bizarre talk about a woman’s body that some of these NUTJOBS are assuming that if a woman isn’t sexually excited, she can’t get pregnant. Has anyone else read anything that explains what Akin and others like him believe about women’s bodies?

      • BronwynsHarbor

        I just re-read Harp2′s comment above. Harp2 is correct — that if the woman was raped and got pregnant, she must have wanted to be raped. But, I remain curious if these nutjobs are also thinking that a woman’s body will reject the sperm (???) if the woman doesn’t get sexually excited. WHY do I ask that? Because PEDOPHILES love to say that little kids get sexually excited in cases of incest. The saddest part of all is that children often DO experience involuntary sensations of sexual pleasure.

        How do I know that? Because, when I had my little home business, there were many times when I couldn’t be too fussy about what I was willing to desktop-publish for clients. I got two clients who I had for years and years … they treated sex offenders. I learned about a lot of sick things when I had to type their assessments of the sex offenders, one of which was how kids felt terrible guilt because they’d felt sexual pleasure during the episodes of incest … talk about f–king up one’s mind.

        • BronwynsHarbor

          P.S. Those two therapists were very nice people but I never figured out how they could stand to do their jobs except that, sigh, it provided a steady income. And income for me too, paid for by the state (of course) because my clients incorporated my bill into what they charged for their services.

          Those two — one a man, one a woman — also had good marriages and children of their own. I used to wonder how they could deal with those monsters, and then go home and try to feel “normal” about their own kids’ safety.

        • HObama HObamanana

          Harp2 is correct — that if the woman was raped and got pregnant, she must have wanted to be raped.

          Surely you have mistyped.

      • HELENK2

        ever notice how man made religions are terrified of women

      • HObama HObamanana

        I see things a little differently. He is a nutcase that uses religion to justify his insanity. I should add that the Family Research Council fully supports him.