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Here’s Paul!

Please live blog your comments while Paul speaks and your thoughts afterward. Especially share what you observe via whatever channel you are watching.

Paul Ryan, Mitt’s choice for VP, addresses the Republican Convention tonight. Paul is a sitting member of the U.S. House of Representatives, 5th generation Wisconsin resident, born 1970, married, and father of three children. He is, in my opinion, about as regular-Joe as you can get–not from a “rich” family, a Catholic, attended non-Ivy League Miami University in Oxford, Ohio, and even once worked for McDonalds. Ryan was first elected to Congress in 1998, re-elected six times since with at least 57% of the vote. He is chair of the House Budget Committee and recognized by both Republicans and Democrats as an expert on budgets and government spending.

Score card

  • Is Paul Ryan ready for prime time?
  • Is Paul Ryan a credible VP? E.g., to fill Romney’s shoes if needed and/or compared to either Joseph Biden or Barack Obama.
  • Do you view Paul Ryan as liberal, moderate, or conservative from whatever criteria you choose (fiscal, social, etc.)?
  • Does Paul Ryan enhance or detract from Mitt Romney’s candidacy
  • What does picking Paul Ryan say about Mitt Romney?
  • With Paul Ryan as VP does this confirm your choice to support Mitt Romney? Or not?

 
 
Matthew Weaver is president/CEO of Project Weavers, which offers project management training and PMP exam prep courses.

  • akaPatience

    OMG, you would not believe the NYT front page photo of Paul Ryan today. Remember what Jake Tapper said about media bias being exhibited in 2008 in various ways including photos? Well the photo of Ryan is big but he’s not in most of it — just his head shows, and down at the bottom, making him look small and diminished. Their editorials about convention speeches so far have been near-irrational. This paper, like NBCNews, has declined miserably over the last several years. It’s sad and pathetic to see once-venerable news organizations sink so low. There’s a total lack of professionalism anymore. The current crop of newspeople disgrace the great tradition burnished by journalists who came before them. I know the NYTs is bleeding money like crazy and they just lost a 30+ year subscriber today. NBCNews could stand a wholesale house cleaning. Tom Brokaw must be dying inside.

    • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      What happens when the news is no longer fit to print? Or, in the case of NYT, no longer fit to read?

  • jrterrier

    to follow up on a point Harp2 made about how R2 are setting strategic traps, i think the next push to try to break into the Obama lock on African Americans and latinos is going to be education.

    For AAs and Latinos and anyone else who is willing to sacrifice for the future of their children, that’s a big deal.

    1) Romney addresssed education at the NAACP, and it was one of the lines that got him applause;

    2) Ann mentioned that MA was # 1 in the nation in education when Romney was Gov; and she repeated it for emphasis and mentioned that Romney created the Abigail & John Adams a full 4-yr scholarship for students in the top 25% of their class;

    3) Condi mentioned education as the civil rights issue of the times & the line about education & zip code;

    4) Jeb Bush is going to talk about education;

    5) I’m sure that Romney is going to hit on it

    6) then the ad campaign that is sure to follow.

    Love it.

    • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      Good points. Cuts across any political or special-interest group.

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  • KenoshaMarge

    And big surprise, the MSM and the Obama campaign, but I repeat myself, are freaking out over Ryan’s speech.

    Obama Camp Melts Down Over Ryan’s Speech

    If this is all they’ve got, it’s no wonder they’re freaking out. Paul Ryan told the truth about Barack Obama, and the president’s campaign can’t handle it.

    more: http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2012/08/30/obama_camp_melts_down_over_ryans_speech

  • getfitnow

    I was just reading through the comments here and struck by how many of us found memorable lines–so many of them from a variety of speakers.

    Christie said it’s time to start telling the truth.

    I not sure I’m up to the challenge of listening to the DEMS whine and lie for 3 days.

    • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      Have some wine and cheese with it. Which should be good and worse case the whine and wine will put you to sleep and give you some relief.
      Maybe they’ll issue a Clif Notes version? You know, Bush’s fault, Obama greatest since and maybe more so than even Lincoln.
      I do wonder how they’ll explain not being able to afford the styrofoam Greek columns this time around.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Absolutely hilarious.

    • HObama HObamanana

      I can assure you that I will not listen to a single minute of the UnDemocratic Chicago-Centric Lying Fest. I’ve heard that nonsense before. I may attend the world championship of fingernail scratching on blackboards or watch some grass grow or paint dry. Maybe even scratch my ass a bit.

      • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

        Hey, those are great alternatives! What else might we do? Please comment here or even email me directly (Matthew@TheIndependentView.com). Maybe we can create a discussion thread leading up to the Democratic convention next week on this very topic.
        Thanks!
        Matthew

        • HObama HObamanana

          What a great idea Matthew. We could have our own non-convention. Let me think about your proposal and if I come up with an idea worth merit I’ll send it your way. It would be cool if we could get other non-liberal blogs to join in the fun.

        • HObama HObamanana

          Ok, I scratched my head and came up with a few ideas. At least the one’s I’ll make public.

          We could have a game called Count the Plugs in Joe Biden’s head. It could even be similar to Where’s Waldo using a little imagination.

          We could have a thread with everyone’s favorite misogynistic lines and experiences of the 2007-2008 Obama campaign.

          We could vote on the most effective race-baiter in the Dim party. Extra points given for specific examples.

          A listing of the outright lies and broken promises from Obama’s 2008 acceptance speech would be fun.

          I think a whole thread on the life of Harry Reid as revealed by anonymous sources could be a riot. And very revealing.

          How about voting on who best emulates the Wicked Witch of the West? My nominees are Pelosi, DWS, Cutter and all three Hilary Rosens.

          New career suggestions for Juan the corporate liberal media whore wife Williams.

          A glorification of Rahm Emanuel’s Chicago values. Rampant crime, murder, gangs, union thugs, political corruption, Farrakhan, Rezko, Ayers, the Obamas, the New Black Panther Party…. the list goes on and on.
          And wouldn’t it be cool to have someone with photoshop experience show Rahm lecturing us about Chicago values while wearing a pink, frilly tutu? Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

          A history lesson on previous traitors that sold out American defense secrets for their personal gain.

          I’ve got several more ideas but since the Dims haven’t put out a complete speaking schedule for each night it’s so hard to put it all together coherently.

          • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

            Some great ideas! How about “Where is Hillary?” as she’ll be as far away and out of reach as possible–if that were more possible than is even now occuring.

            • HObama HObamanana

              I’m certain she isn’t hiding in Biden’s plugs.

  • elizabethrc

    Right after his speech I listened to a bit of the comments from the msm. It’s obvious to me that while they gave grudging respect for it, they simply do not understand the difference between style and content.
    Now, next week, we’ll have to once again listen to Obama trying to emulate Ryan’s appeal to every day folks. He thinks he accomplishes this by dropping his “g” word endings! Now I know where Biden got his speech patterns he used in his unfortunate recent comments about “chains”.
    I just can’t vote for a chameleon. You never know where they are.

  • KataKimbe

    I think Condi had the best speech of the night, but Martinez and Ryan were great too. Then I get in the car and drive home from a job… turn on the radio, a so called conservative station and the guy on there is talking how white the GOP is and that the audience is all white and rich. A caller, who said he was latino, brought up the speakers and the host said that they are all a token to make people believe the GOP has a big tent. He asked the guy… where are the gay speakers? And on and on before he rudely hung up on the caller. Not sure my blood pressure can cope with this for two more months.

    • HObama HObamanana

      The difference between the Democrats claiming to be diverse and the Republicans being diverse is that the Republicans have lots of diverse elected leaders of prominence. The Dims?

  • shelldoll2

    I heart Paul Ryan! He is smart, articulate, and kinda cute. As a mom I just wanna pinch his cheeks. He made me laugh and also brought tears to my eyes when he talked about his mom. Gotta luv him for that!

  • akaPatience

    I enjoyed so many of the speeches tonight. Granted, it’s hard for me to be totally objective but I honestly thought all of them were at least very good and some were great. Sen. Portman’s speech was insightful and it’s obvious he’s a serious guy who sees the Big Picture. I enjoyed Gov. Pawlenty’s speech for its flip and funny character — he was an unexpected source of comic relief; and Gov. Huckabee is a very polished and poignant speaker, but the 3 best were the last 3: Rice, Martinez and Ryan. They were truly truly outstanding. OMG Sec. Rice — how profound and dignified. Talk about poignance. And Gov. Martinez sets such a fine example. She’s someone I’d definitely want on my side. And Rep. Ryan — WOW. That guy can really deliver a compelling speech. It was forceful and from the heart and he made me feel like he and Gov. Romney really care about our country and its future and truly want to help. It’s so different from the indulgence and blind faith Obama keeps asking for.

    • jrterrier

      Mia Love: “Well, when you think about it, let’s look at the ‘war on women,’ I mean, he’s tries to politically get women to vote for men,” the Utah congressional candidate said. “And if you think about Joe Biden’s comments, “They want to put ya’ll back in chains,” I think it’s absolutely disrespectful to the office that they hold. I deserve a president that sees me as a human being.”

      • akaPatience

        Yep, she sure said a mouthful. Methinks she has a future in politics! But don’t get me started on all of the hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty. I was channel surfing after the speeches and caught Andrea Mitchell interviewing Condoleeza Rice. Chris Matthews basically barged in and told Andrea to ask her about birthers! After that profound speech she gave! Un-f-ing-believable. What an absolutely worthless hack he is. I can’t believe he holds onto his job, he’s so incompetent. There’s something clinically wrong there, perhaps early-onset dementia or something.

  • jrterrier

    just watching the speeches for a second time. my reaction, tonight we saw the future of the party and of america.

    biggest winners tonight: ryan & martinez
    biggest losers: christie, santorum, palin, huntsman, biden & obama

    also winners — romney for picking ryan and W for picking condee rice and rice for her inspirational speech.

    • HObama HObamanana

      I didn’t see Christie as a loser. Nor did/do I think Santorum or Palin were/are. The former delivered a great motivational speech. The later two are basically somewhat irrelevant at this particular moment.

      • jrterrier

        My point is that Ryan & Martinez (and Mia Love & Cruz) just replaced the others as the future of the party. In 4 or 8 years, my “losers” will be even more spent.

        For example, I think Ryan checks all the boxes that Santorum could on social issues, religiosity, pro-life and adds the economic firepower. Ryan also is as hard hitting as Christie but delivers the punch in a much more palatable way. Don’t get me wrong, Christie like Sununu both have a way to land a powerful punch. But to be a national leader, it may be necessary to have a smoother delivery.

        Martinez, fits the female slot, is a governor, appears to be better educated and fits the Latino demographic and will have a few more years to learn and grow. In some ways, I think Sarah Palin like Barack Obama suffered from being thrust into the national arena without enough experience.

        • HObama HObamanana

          I understand and agree with your perspective. Glad you cleared it up. Much appreciated.

        • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

          Curious on one point. Many people frame the future of both parties in terms of race–often a ‘we must replace white males with anyone and everyone’ to be competitive or to address special interests. Isn’t this what has created the problem for Democrats as they’ve become the part for Blacks (13% of the pop), Hispanic (legal are a very small %), LGBT-whatever (2%), etc. that overall are in plurality much less than a 50%? All of this requires a racist, lifestyle, or enthnic prejudice that I personally find objectional and demeaning. Christie, Ryan, etc., even Hillary are not smart, successful, etc. because of their skin color, sex, or orientation.
          The Republicans have been good examples of the run amok that results in using prejudice over smarts–they endured and still endure the flavor of the week–Cain, Bachman, Rubio, Martinez, West, etc. that may or may not be good but are being promoted even briefly because of these prejudical terms. Dems got Obama because of it, too. All well meaning but self-defeating. Especially when underneath they may have problems (Rubio with citizenship, family corruption, and no experience); Martinez (no experience); Cain (can’t keep his zipper zipped), etc.

          • jrterrier

            no, not at all for me. and i agree with you in many respects.
            i think that’s another powerful point about the Ryan pick. he was the best for the task at hand, which is the economy. not because he was latino, or a woman, or from ohio. while i have grown to like rubio, he would have been at least in part a shiny bauble to get the latino vote. and i’m sure that his ethics problems with the Rep party credit card scared Romney away.
            and my praise of martinez was based on her speech and her description of who she is and how she got where she is. i had never heard her before. because of her experience as a prosecutor, she probably would have fared better than Palin if she had been picked but i agree not enough experience.

    • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      Why do you see Christie as a loser? I know this is the party line of sites like Politico, but I thought his speech was good (maybe rude to not to offer acknowledgment to Ann Romney). He didn’t make crudely firey comments like many might have hoped but he was well within the ‘norm’ of this convention, very direct, and I thought great. I agree with your others–and beyond clips, skipped Santorum. In fact, most of the others who did speak simply offer good-bad comparison to Ann Romney, Paul Ryan, and Chris Christie — the 3 best so far. The absolute worst so far in my opinion is Boehner and Santorum.

      • HObama HObamanana

        I watched neither Boehner or Santorum. Boehner isn’t much of a speaker and I’d heard Santorum’s “hands” speech before. I went for a much needed walk. Much more productive.

      • jrterrier

        I don’t see Christie as a loser in terms of his speech. I thought it was very good. And I think he’s been a very good governor. I just think that as far as the future, Ryan just lapped the others in the race for the future.
        Although there’s still time for Christie and many other to make up the distance. We still need to see what all of them can actually deliver.

  • HELENK2

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/08/30/white-house-insider-paul-ryan-is-now-a-full-fledged-political-rock-star/

    the ulsterman on the 2nd day of the convention
    Paul Ryan is now a full fledged political rock star

    • getfitnow

      and the beauty–it’s “organic.” He’s not trying to be one. But it’s great because this is what will open the eyes/ears of the young people–who ave nothing but a faded Obama poster. LOL. that was priceless.

  • jrterrier

    “the greatest threat to medicare is obamacare and we will stop it.”

    simply genius what the Romney campaign has done linking the threat to medicare with obamacare.

  • jrterrier

    after 4 years of getting the run around, america needs a turn around and Mitt Romney is the person to do it.

  • jrterrier

    politico has a panel on cspan and to a person they were praising the ryan speech. one guy said that for all the people who thought that romney had done a swan dive into an empty pool in picking ryan, now they know the pool was full of water. time will still tell whether they can pull it off (ie, mediscare) but no question he’s up to the task.

    except the lie the DEMS and chrissy matthews are spreading is that the Janesville auto plant did not close under Obama but the truth is that the plant remained open until April 2009 and did close under President Obama: http://www.examiner.com/article/janesville-gm-plant-closes-after-90-years

    • HELENK2
    • KataKimbe

      The Truth: The GM plant closure was announced in June of 2008, when George W. Bush was president. Barack Obama took office in January 2009. This is from http://www.politicususa.com/5-biggest-lies-paul-ryans-rnc-acceptance-speech.html If these things are true… somebody did Ryan a disservice with that speech. His delivery was great though.

      • jrterrier

        The “truth” is not what politicususa writes:

        1. No one did Ryan a disservice. He was intimtely involved in the Janesville closing decision. It’s in his hometown, some of his HS classmates worked at Janesville. He tried to keep it open, tried to get stimulus funds to it.

        2. The announcement was made in June 2008 but the plant remained open until Apr 2009. (“Just before Christmas about 1,200 workers were let go from the Janesville plant and only 100 workers stayed on to finish an order on some light duty trucks for Isuzu. Thursday, April 23, [2009] most of those workers will be let go and a skeletal crew will remain on to shutdown the plant. http://www.examiner.com/article/janesville-gm-plant-closes-after-90-years

        3. What Ryan said was that the President during his 2008 campaign promised that the plant would be there for another 100 years AND it is not; it is now closed. He never said that it was closed by Obama. His point was that it was another broken promise. Neither the stimulus nor the Obama economy kept it open.

        • HObama HObamanana

          Excellent clarification. Truth is the great sanitizer.

        • KataKimbe

          Your point is? It would be better if those who did write that speech did not muddle the waters for an Obama pushing media.

      • jrterrier

        Ryan:
        “President Barack Obama came to office during an economic crisis, as he has reminded us a time or two. Those were very tough days, and any fair measure of his record has to take that into account. My home state voted for President Obama. When he talked about change, many people liked the sound of it, especially in Janesville, where we were about to lose a major factory.

        A lot of guys I went to high school with worked at that GM plant. Right there at that plant, candidate Obama said: “I believe that if our government is there to support you … this plant will be here for another hundred years.” That’s what he said in 2008.

        Well, as it turned out, that plant didn’t last another year. It is locked up and empty to this day. And that’s how it is in so many towns today, where the recovery that was promised is nowhere in sight.
        Right now, 23 million men and women are struggling to find work. Twenty-three million people, unemployed or underemployed. Nearly one in six Americans is living in poverty. Millions of young Americans have graduated from college during the Obama presidency, ready to use their gifts and get moving in life. Half of them can’t find the work they studied for, or any work at all.

        So here’s the question: Without a change in leadership, why would the next four years be any different from the last four years?”

  • BronwynsHarbor

    IF any of you see the advertisement for Rob McKenna for governor of Washington state, and if you have ANY spare $$$, please oh please send some to Rob McKenna.

    He is an EXCEPTIONAL leader who fought Obamacare as our attorney general (twice reelected even though he’s a Republican!) but the liberals are making him pay a huge price for his courage in speaking out against Obamacare.

    Remarkably, as a candidate, he has become a realist — he knows that there is NO WAY to stop Obamacare unless we elect ROMNEY/RYAN and unless the Washington state legislature (run by Democrats and unions) can be coerced to drop the expansion of Medicaid, which will BANKRUPT the state of Washington. The state is already in debt … deep debt. But those looney toon Democrats have no sense. I’ll shut up now. I just HOPE that sme of you might consider sending Rob McKenna a couple dollars.

    RIGHT HERE, SEND Rob McKenna some GOP LOVE and save Washington state from bankruptcy.

    • HELENK2

      bronwyn
      in the last open thread I wrote my thoughts on the movie 2016. you had asked me to do so. see if you agree with me

  • TeakWoodKite

    Paul Ryan is prime time. I believe that given a persons character they can rise to the challenge of leading a nation as did a simple country lawyer once upon a time. His voting record is conservative but voting the same as Joe Biden 52 is of note and based on that record people will judge him.
    Ryan adds the legislativeacumenn and network Romney will need to proceed. Many a POTUS hasreceivedd the D.C. “cold shoulder”, ala Carter so there is some promise on overcoming the K st friction….
    “What does picking Paul Ryan say about Mitt Romney?”
    It tells me Romney has the ability to think and act on many levels concurrently. By selecting Ryan, Romney shores upa part of the party that is PISSED at the likes of wimpy Bohner and his ilk. (disrespectect to the Speaker of the House but he has folded like a lawn chair and then gone golfing with BO, never a good sign.) Romney also calls to attention the need for a person who has a grasp of the federal budget process which is not the same as running as state or corporate governance. It remains to be seen on tforeignign affairs side of the house how Romney and Ryan will work out. Give the folks that have and are advising him, it could be difficult to wrest away the the polices of the last several administrations and the consequences of failed policies of BO….That said I darn well have a higher confidence that Romney and Ryan will not be selling out or national securiassetssts for political reasons right out of Motel 1600front dooroor like some freaky yard sale.
    We have a high possibility of a major conflict in the ME on the event horizon…I think I would much prefer Romney and Ryan than Barry and his snake oil side kick.
    There is a slice of the republican party that wants taggressivessive in attacking BO on the convention floor. Tone is important. It’s the dem’s turn to eat their young as is the habit oconsequencesenses of their lies. Just some straight up leadership would be remarkable. Bush said of Barry that he “wasn’t ready forklugeklieg lights”. Bush was spot on as Barry is blinded by his own averise. Romney and Ryan do not strike me as being even close to that. Time will tell. I cast my vote in full support ofcandidacydicay and hope that he win CA…save me the agony of coming to terms with the seemingly futile act of voting for anyone other than moonbeams…I didn’t appreciateiatte the Jerry Brown telling me to “fuck off”. I do not care for the current POTUS doing the same…so I am hope and change.

    • BronwynsHarbor

      TEAK, edit your comment.. it’s all a link. I’ll change my outfit and come into your comment and fix it.

      • jrterrier

        the problem is that disqus now bunches everything up. have to edit after posting each time.

      • TeakWoodKite

        I posted it an saw that I forgot to close the href…
        I am with jrterrier.. but then I suck at typing so when I posted I saw it was all blue. LOL

  • beachnan

    Wow, there were so many great speeches tonight. Pawlenty had some great lines, but the last three speakers were amazing. Condaleeza’s speech was so moving, and I thought there is no way Martinez can equal her, but then she did and then finally we had Ryan who was excellent. This seems like a new Republican Party and I think that’s a nice surprise (just as surprising as Susanna Martinez realizing that she was a Republican!). Loved the comment by Ryan about Mitt’s elevator music selection. I think Ryan just won over a whole new group of people with his comment about college grads still living at home with their Obama posters and his choice of music from AC/DC to Led Zepplin. It was a great night for all those wanting to see a change in November.

    • HObama HObamanana

      The college kids living at home in their original bedrooms staring up at faded posters of Obama was maybe one of the coolest things he said. If some youngins tuned in and heard that, they may well support the ticket.

    • getfitnow

      We know that JayZ is on Obama’s iPod. I wonder what’s on Biden’s/

      • HObama HObamanana

        I was trying to come up with some snarky ass reply but I got nuthin. No wait a sec… How about the song Hair from the musical by the same name?

      • HELENK2

        they’re coming to take me away ha ha

    • jrterrier

      and again, person after person speaks about their parent’s starting a business. it’s serendipity that the Pres gave us that line “you didn’t build that.”

  • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

    Paul Ryan was terrific…and Condi was also great, and I never liked her when I was a Democrat. BTW, I’ve been watching the RNC convention on TheBlaze TV (formerly GBTV) on my Roku. They run the speeches without interruption and the commentary from the pundits has been brief and savvy. You can also watch the replay on demand if you have an account with them. I’m sooo glad I don’t have to watch MSM for this stuff now.

  • HObama HObamanana

    I couldn’t possibly live blog. I had to experience the whole night without interruption. I enjoyed all of it. I especially enjoyed Portman, Pawlenty and Martinez. Huckabee kind of surprised me. He was quite good and very effective. Condi Rice totally blew me away. I used to hate that woman when I was a Dim. I found her thoughtful and inspirational tonight. Just WOW!

    Ryan rocked the house. He was all that I expected and much more. The guy speaks plainly and forcefully but isn’t threatening in the least. His delivery was great and very effective. I feel really good about this election and confident that these two gentlemen will turn our country around and get it heading along a prosperous path.

    Something else of note, was that both Huckabee and Ryan touched upon Mitt’s religion, and both gave their assent and blessing to his Mormonism without directly saying it.

    Ok, scorecard time.

    *Definitely ready for prime time. Anytime.
    *Very credible VP. Inspirational and thoughtful leader. Lots of substance. Not just pretty uplifting words.
    *Ryan is definitely a conservative in every criteria
    *Ryan enhances Mitt’s candidacy, without a doubt. Like bookends of the great American novel, except this time it’s not fiction.
    *The Ryan pick says that Mitt is serious about turning our country around and that Ryan will be a full partner.
    *I knew that Mitt would pick the right guy. He has a long history of choosing the best and the brightest partners, beginning with Ann.

    • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

      Agree on Condi – she was fantastic. I used to dislike her as well. I teared up when she spoke about becoming Secretary of State after living under Jim Crow.

    • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      Re Mitt and Romney, I agree 100%. Need to watch the others on replay.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Do you recall who said Mitt Ryan a little earlier in the evening?

        • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

          Someone eles will have to answer this as I was teaching a class from 8-10 p.m. and haven’t seen any mention of this slip.

    • getfitnow

      Condi was amazing. I saw some comments elsewhere saying she would be a great Sec of Education. I’m all for get rid of the department, but as long as we have one, I think she would be superior.

      • HObama HObamanana

        I agree. What she said about if she knew your zip code she could tell how well your children are being taught was astounding. Very effective. Right to the heart of the matter.

        • KenoshaMarge

          I thought that line was wonderful. And that it was the “civil Rights issue” of our time. Amazing how differently you view someone when you don’t watch them as a partisan. I used to loathe her. I am still not a big fan, but I thought she gave a thoughtful and insightful speech.
          The line about the little girl from Birmingham growing up to be Secretary of State was also a keeper. And a Republican did that!

          • HObama HObamanana

            I was sitting down watching her speak. Suddenly I found myself on my feet with tears rolling down my cheeks. It’s amazing how destructive partisanship is, how blind it makes one. And how stupid.

            • KenoshaMarge

              Although I am deeply, profoundly pissed off at the Dems I am not a Republican. I “like” some Republicans. Very much. But once they get into the social issues, they lose me. As do the Dems.
              Rice struck just the right note IMHO. My partisanship kept me from ever listening to her before. That was my loss.

              • HObama HObamanana

                I’m not ready to join the party either. But Condi’s speech made me lean a little bit more.

                • KenoshaMarge

                  Whereas for me it was Susana Matinez’ speech that tilted me further towards the GOP. Will I also someday say, “damn, I’m a Republican?” It’s a possibility if only it weren’t for those social conservatives.

                  • HObama HObamanana

                    I can’t say that I am a Republican but I can proudly say that I am supporting them.

                    • KenoshaMarge

                      I will remain an Independent so that I can take pot shots at both parties. But until the Dems get their act together and stop their pious bullshit while lying their asses off they will get no votes from me.

    • artist

      Great post Ho…Ho from another ex Dim, was a delegate for HRC but fled when O was gifted with the nomination

  • jrterrier

    another thing that’s clear, of the short list of VP’s, RYAN is heads above the others. Christie was good last night until you heard Ryan tonight and then Christie sounded pedestrian by comparison. Pawlenty tried tonight but not in the same league. Portman was good but again, not as good as Ryan.

    We’ll have to see how Rubio does tomorrow night. Susana Martinez might have been ok too but not as good as Ryan.

    • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      Put’s pressure on Romney to deliver tomorrow. Or, be warm and gracious in acknowleging better speakers.
      He is improving. I saw him speak in McLean early this spring and then a few weeks ago in Manassas. A night and day difference. Hope tomorrow shows continued improvement.

      • jrterrier

        i hope he can pull it off. after ann, ryan, martinez, conde tonight, i hope he can come off as reagan tomorrow.

        listening to the replay of susana martinez, she is impressive also. could have been VP pick. she’s a gun-toting, latina and woman — what would OFA have done? i hope she pulls NM for R/R.

        • HELENK2

          she would be my choice to replace holder and turn his dept of crime back to a dept of justice

          • KenoshaMarge

            That’s a great thought Helen!

          • jrterrier

            good idea.

          • HObama HObamanana

            Great pick.

    • KenoshaMarge

      Susana Martinez was wonderful and I think would make a great Veep. She was my choice all along. But she’s young and has time. Maybe her time will be to break two “historic” ceilings for the presidency at the same time, Hispanic and Female. That would be something!

      I know she would have been hammered for not having the experience. And having two female Governors in a row not finish their term would have been a bit much. But I still think she’s a star. Part of that “deep” bench the GOP now has and the Dems don’t.

      • HObama HObamanana

        AG?

      • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

        Let Martinez develop in New Mexico. As a former, even brief resident, I’d be curious to see how long she survives without visible corruption critique that accompanies most New Mexico politicians. Plus, we’ve had seriously bad luck nationally with politicians turned-administrators from the southwest. Besides, naming her has the appearance of following the affirmative action moves of Obama and others to place a minority or women into these roles. How about putting someone there that has specific and credible experience instead of political pedigree?

        • KenoshaMarge

          I agree that letting her finish her job in New Mexico is best. I am afraid that I want to see a woman on the ticket too much to always be reasonabel and logical. That’s on me.

          Far too often it’s necessary to put forth candidates because of pedigree because that’s how voters vote. I don’t like it and long for the day when MLK’s dream comes true, not just for his children but for all of us.

          I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
          Martin Luther King, Jr.

          • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

            Understand and agree.

  • Retired_from_SPOnaj

    For those of you who just aren’t satisfied with the cocaine high of MSNBC, the real lefty heroin can be found on Current TV, where Al Gore himself pontificates on why Mitt Romney’s tax returns are so critical while Gov. Martinez’s muted speech provides a video backdrop. Who wants to hear what that right wing beaner bitch has to say when Al can inform us of what really counts?

    • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      Regardless of what you are trying to say, your comment is offensive and inappropriate.

      • beachnan

        I believe Retired was making those comments with tongue in cheek.

        • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

          Absolutely!

          • Steve Diamond

            So, Larry, you condone the use of damaging racist stereotypes in the service of sarcasm? I thought you, and this list, were better than that.

            • HObama HObamanana

              Geez, get a life.

              • Steve Diamond

                That you, HO, stoop to this level is not a surprise.

                • HObama HObamanana

                  Well Stevie, I didn’t make the comments. But I recognize irony and sarcasm when I see it. Perhaps you might be aware that MSNBC refused to show any people of color on it’s broadcast last night and instead cut away from every single one of their speeches to have a talk about how white and racist the GOP was. And that, BTW isn’t irony. It’s a fact.

                  • shelldoll2

                    Isn’t that, I dunno, racist?

                  • TeakWoodKite

                    I have not watched any of it except for a few minutes and the cameras at MSNBC were doing token shots of the crowd.
                    Retired drove the 16 penny nail with one swing. The Democrats are only using the “multi-cultural” meme as a tool. I have seen this in action.

            • BronwynsHarbor

              STEVE, please see Larry’s comments — Retired is a REVERED member of NoQuarterUSA. He is no racist. He was being very sarcastic.

        • BronwynsHarbor

          You got it, Beachnan. Thanks.

    • HObama HObamanana

      Sorry, but I’m high on life now and have no desire for a fix from Al Bore.

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      Guys,
      Retired is using extreme sarcasm. He’s pointing out the bullshit of Current TV and the likes of Al Gore ignoring the amazing and inspiring story of Governor Martinez.

      • HELENK2

        Larry
        I worked around old time railroaders for a while and retired does not upset me a bit

      • DianaLC

        Remember, Larry, many of us on this blog are women, and we are on this blog daily because we do like to be communicated with through our brains rather than the other part through which the Dems assume as the only way to communicate with us.
        I’ve enjoyed Retired_from_SPOnaj’s comments for a long time.

      • KenoshaMarge

        Having a brain, I knew exactly what Retired was doing.

        Isn’t it strange that his words, meant as snark, are found more offensive to some than the actions of Al Gore in running his big, and boring, mouth during her speech.

        I am a big Susana Martinez fan and find Al Gore far more offensive, in his apparent dismissal of the Historic Governor of New Mexico than of Retired’s snark. But then I don’t usually make a career of fauxrage.

    • TeakWoodKite

      Thanks for the morning belly laugh.

  • jrterrier

    the President was asked to reflect on any mistakes. He said I haven’t explained enough. . . as if he had to talk more and we had to listen more. . . during past 4 years, no shortage of words. what we need is … leadership.

    the man assumed office almost 4 years ago. isn’t it time he assumed responsibility.

    • KenoshaMarge

      That was another great line. No shortage of words indeed. The man in the Oval never shuts his yap and never says anything of worth. His fans may like his digs at Romney and Ryan but that is not what a leader does.
      Go Romney/Ryan!

    • Dissentispatriotic

      When Obama opens his mouth to speak, it’s like one of the Charlie Brown cartoons. All you hear is wah, wah wah wah, wha.. His delivery is very odd, whether its the inflection or ending every sentence with a higher pitch as if he’s answering a question. It will be a relief not to hear him again.

  • BronwynsHarbor

    WELL? WHERE IS HE? It is after TEN PM on the East Coast and at least half the people who’d LIKE to hear him are in bed asleep already — MOST SENIORS.

    OOOOOPS … I slept through the speeches again. I just got a call and my friend said that Paul Ryan WAS fantastic.

    OH SHIT. I slept through the second night of speeches. If I sleep through Mitt Romney tomorrow night, I am giving up being a Republican (JUST KIDDING).

    Problem: That cold/flu/whatever it is has come back with a vengeance, and I am sick as a dog.

    • jrterrier

      c-span is replaying the Ryan speech right now.

      • BronwynsHarbor

        WOOHOO! Well, I missed it again because I just now saw your comment. Damn it. But I will watch the video when it gets posted.

    • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      Take care of yourself. A long nap is in order, recover, and when you wake up the Obama nightmare will be over.

      • BronwynsHarbor

        From your fingers to god’s eyes …. ! (My new favorite saying)

    • FormerLiberal9

      You didn’t eat a apple given to you by Nancy Pelosi I hope Sleeping Beauty.

      Actually I am just the opposite I listen to the speeches then can’t sleep.

      • BronwynsHarbor

        Ahhhhhhhh …. no, although it wouldn’t surprise me in the least. Heh.

    • HObama HObamanana

      Sure hope you get to feeling better. I had to load up on coffee to make certain I could watch it all.

      • BronwynsHarbor

        THANK YOU! Yeah, me too, but the coffee did not work, and I even made it extra strong. Dang. Well, I have enough coffee left over for the morning … I NEVER throw out coffee once it’s made (too expensive).

        I am so glad you got to see Ryan, HOB (I can’t figure out how to give you a nickname!)

        • HObama HObamanana

          You can call me HO if you like. Wouldn’t offend me in the least.

    • jrterrier

      Foxnews is replaying the speeches now. just played Rice, now Martinez. I assume they’ll play Ryan after that.

    • HELENK2

      i hope you feel better. tea with a shot might help

      • HObama HObamanana

        I’m not sick but like your advice. I think I’ll give it a try just in case I might get sick.

    • TeakWoodKite

      Take care Harbor Master, hot teas and rest. :) _

  • Hokma

    WOW

    This has been a night of amazing speeches.

    Ryan’s speech surpasses any VP nominee speech I have ever heard from either party.

    • HObama HObamanana

      I agree with that. I can’t think of a single one that even came close.

  • HoosierinDixie

    Does anybody know what that little disturbance on the floor was during Ryan’s speech?

    • getfitnow

      Code (vagina) Pink

      • HoosierinDixie

        Thanks for the info. I figured it was something like that. I am glad Ryan continued his speech and did not acknowledge them.

      • HObama HObamanana

        And they, or the Paulbots are probably responsible for throwing peanuts at that CNN black cameraman and calling him an animal yesterday. It isn’t that difficult to crash a convention.

  • jrterrier

    CNN interviewing Paul Ryan’s nephew, 10 or 11. adorable. says he’s learning a lot. very, very proud of his uncle.

  • FormerLiberal9

    This Convention has the same feel and excitement of the old Democratic Conventions.

  • getfitnow

    Sec. Rice, Gov Martinez, and may I say “VP” Ryan–firing on all cylinders.

    Remember when That One was looking for an ass to kick? Well his just got a triple dose.

    Go R&R!

  • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

    I’ve got Fox on… What channel are you watching and how is Ryan being interpreted?

    • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      Happy to note that Juan Williams is not in evidence.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Did you read his apology explanation commentary piece at Fox?

        • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

          Yes, I saw that. I suspect he realized the thin ice he’s treading on.

          • HObama HObamanana

            Not sure, but don’t think he was on the Fox panel after the speeches tonight.

            • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

              I’ve had Fox on and absolutely no sign of Juan Williams. He’s off or gone; plus, I read elsewhere that Fox dumped Palin from tonight’s schedule. Interesting.

              • HObama HObamanana

                I’m not sure what to make of Palin’s absence. She wrote something on her Facebook page about Fox cancelling all of her interviews and she apologized to her fans/friends.

              • jrterrier

                i wonder what that’s about?

    • jrterrier

      flipping through the channels. CNN is giving him thumps up. Candy Crowly just said it was electrifying. Gregory asked James Carville if the DEMS are worried about the ticket after hearing that speech.

      • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

        And Carville’s answer?

        • jrterrier

          a little nervous laugh followed by the DEMS have been worried about the party. it’s a very tight race.

          • getfitnow

            Carville’s polling operation just came out with a new poll. That One is up by only 2. He’s been losing points every two weeks.
            The most troubling for DEMS, Romney is up +15 with independents.

            • jrterrier

              and there was that poll that the key issue for said something like 60 or 70% of likely voters was the economy. that cannot be good for the President.

            • BronwynsHarbor

              You don’t suppose that The One is going to have to give up GOLF until November? God I hope not. And what about watching ESPN? He needs his down time, after all …

              • HObama HObamanana

                Didn’t he say that he needs that 6 hours to think? I wonder how much time he figures he will need to bamboozle his way out of this mess of his own making? Probably making lots of 3 am calls to Bill Clinton asking for guidance since Hillary has already abandoned him.

            • TeakWoodKite

              Romney is up +15 with independents. Is that Carvelle’s polling?

          • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

            In other words, as Carville has not minced words about in the past, Dems are in serious trouble. Obama has lost and Carville knows it.

      • BronwynsHarbor

        Hmmmm … maybe we shouldn’t give up on CNN just yet.

      • KenoshaMarge

        Wonder if Crowley and Gregory will back down a little from their bias for fear that Romney will win and they won’t have access to the next POTUS.
        Elections have consequences as the media likes to tell us.

        • HObama HObamanana

          I can see Crowley doing so. Gregory? Not a chance.

          • KenoshaMarge

            Sadly I agree. Crowley shows a glimpse of integrity from time to time. But Gregory? Slimeball biased asshat to the core.

            • HObama HObamanana

              It’s probably a sign that I’m really reaching but I find CNN to be more credible than MSNBC. Just less entertaining.

              • KenoshaMarge

                Damning with faint praise HH? Better than MSNBC isn’t much.

                • HObama HObamanana

                  No sense in being so formal. Just call me HO.

                  • KenoshaMarge

                    I was going to call you Ho-Ho but those are chocolate cakes and I wasn’t sure if that would be racist.

                    • HObama HObamanana

                      And I’m certainly not as sweet or as bad for one’s health. Perhaps the latter isn’t necessarily true for Obots.

                    • KenoshaMarge

                      Obots have their own health concerns. Because when you live with your head that far up your ass you cannot breathe properly, you cannot hear what going on around your, your mouth is kissing your own ass and you look like a fool. Why would anyone want to be an obot?
                      A Ho-Ho? Different matter entirely!

        • jrterrier

          Crowley is not too bad. She saw up close what the Obama crew did to Hillary; she knows the score. Most/some of the time she’s an honest broker.

          • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

            Honest broker?! You’re kidding right? I don’t have the specifics and links at hand but Crowley is not an honest broker. Sure, better than partisan hacks like Roland Martin, Gwen whatever-her-name-was, and Donna Brazzile (sp)., but I absolutely think it is a disservice to allow Crowley or anyone like her moderate a debate or define ‘honest broker’.

            • jrterrier

              i just don’t see her as partisan as the others. and i agree that it’s wrong to have only left-leaning moderators. what i read is that the Obama campaign nixed FOX and the Romney campaign nixed MSNBC. Although I think that does a disservice to Bret Baier. and there is no reason why they couldn’t have picked someone from the WSJ or Britt Hume.

    • PainKillerJayne

      I watched C-SPAN

      • HObama HObamanana

        Me too. I don’t need any filters.

    • FormerLiberal9

      C-Span then back to Fox.

      • BronwynsHarbor

        YEAH. C-Span is the only way to go. Even my Aunt in Florida, in her seventies, is watching C-Span! It’s the only way to go. Fox News has a bit too much chatter, especially from some people like boring old U.S. senators who no one cares about hearing, including me.

        • FormerLiberal9

          I’m going to recommend it to my Liberal friend when he watches the Dem Convention. That way he won’t have to put up with the disgusting tingles from Chris Matthews.

    • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

      I watched it on The Blaze/GBTV. They thought he did a great job.

  • jrterrier

    *****

  • FormerLiberal9

    Ladies and Gentlemen the guard has changed. This is not your Daddies Republican Party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/catherine.s.overton Catherine Sonnenmoser Overton

      Amen Brother!

    • jrterrier

      no, it sure isn’t McCain’s party. I respect his service but he wasn’t up to the task.

      • BronwynsHarbor

        Sad. He was too old. Simple as that.

      • HObama HObamanana

        It was his birthday and he was the last nominee. But he did fall kinda flat. And I agree with Bronwyn, he’s just getting too old to rock the house.

    • HObama HObamanana

      I completely agree. They had long haired guy singers and rock music. And ended with Zeppelin. Awesome!

      • FormerLiberal9

        Speaking of the music wasn’t that blonde guitar player in the Saturday Night Live band?

        • HObama HObamanana

          G.E. Smith (the guitarist) was definitely with the SNL band for a long time. Haven’t watched it hardly in a number of years though.

          • HoosierinDixie

            Thank you. It has been driving me crazy trying to figure out where I saw him before.

  • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

    ‘By the way, being successful in business, that’s a good thing.’

    • BronwynsHarbor

      Are you sure?

      • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

        Absolutely. Look what we’ve gotten with a community organizer that never worked a real job in his life? Besides, would a failure in business be a great leader for the country? We really need someone that IS successful and has experience creating success.

      • FormerLiberal9

        Yes Martha Stewart told me so.

  • jrterrier

    “College graduates should not have to live out their lives in their childhood bedrooms staring at fading Obama posters and wondering when they can move out.”

    LOL. standing ovation.

    move over Chris Christie. Ryan is just as hard hitting and says it with less snarl.

    Matthew, in answer to your question. Yes, he is ready. he’s damn ready. and yes, he doubles down on my view of Romney as one of the brightest guys in the room, who can make things happen.

    • FormerLiberal9

      That was great.

    • HoosierinDixie

      Amen.

    • BronwynsHarbor

      That is a HELL of a quote! That one is a KEEPER!

      JRTerrier, I am deputizing you as the personal guard of this quote and I want you to try to post this every damn day until we vote in November.

      And let’s try to get it in a post.

      • jrterrier

        an amazing line delivered with perfect timing and that baby-boy smile of his. perfect.
        it was laughing out loud funny and got the crowd to its feet.

    • artist

      what you said, every word of it, jrterrier.

  • PainKillerJayne

    OMG lmao @ college graduates gazing at Obama posters wondering when they will get a job.

    • BronwynsHarbor

      Jayne, I LOVE your icon! Can any of us borrow it? We could use that EVERYWHERE — Facebook, Twitter, etc. Sweet.

  • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

    … American exceptionalism … about time.

  • PainKillerJayne

    How can you spell it out any better than there is leadership missing in the Whitehouse

  • FormerLiberal9

    “What is missing is leadership in the White House.” P Ryan

  • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

    …words vs. leadership…

  • jrterrier

    started with greek columns . . . now, like a ship drifting on yesterday’s wind.

    now great zingers one after the other.

    • KenoshaMarge

      As Britt Hume said everyone expected Chris Christie to rip Obama to pieces. Instead, and in the nicest way, Paul Ryan did. Nice folks can be deadly too. Way to go Paul.

  • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

    I like the clarity offered–need, want, and win the debate. Now, can they deliver or will politics constrain them? Ryan seems more likely to spell out the hard facts; Romney has the experience and success in delivering results. I’d like to think this is a good pairing.

    • HObama HObamanana

      Ryan will have NO problem winning the debate with plugs.

  • jrterrier

    hitting hard on medicare, with proud mom in the stands cheering him on.

  • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

    Hi everyone, just finished teaching a class, see Ryan is now talking. Is Ryan delivering? I see intent faces among the crowd.

    • jrterrier

      A lot of substance, with some good funny lines. He’s no Sarah Palin but he’s very good.

  • jrterrier

    Love, love, love the fact that we have a young person as VP. looking good, looking ahead to the future.

    • getfitnow

      If the truth be told, both Paul and Mitt are easy on the eyes, imo.

      • jrterrier

        you can say that again.
        the saturday that Ryan was named, my 24-yr old daughter walked by as i was watching the speeches and stopped to look at ryan; said he was very cute then without missing a beat said that was the best looking Pres/VP ticket ever.

    • KenoshaMarge

      Did you hear Beckel admit on The Five that it was now the GOP that had a “deep” bench. Never was that more apparent than at this convention. One young gun after another!

      • jrterrier

        Chuck Todd said the same thing on MSNBC.

        • KenoshaMarge

          Must kill them to admit it. And must make them wonder what is in store for the party they kowtow to so assiduously.
          But then they can do what they always do, lie, distort and spin. Beckel is an asshat of monumental proportions. When he called Paul Ryan “dirty” on “The Five” Holding jumped all over him. Beckel backed down and said he meant that Ryan’s “policies” were dirty. Yeah, right!
          And Todd has been carrying Dem water so long he doesn’t know how to do anything else. Certainly not be an actual reported instead of a press agent.

          • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

            When Romney wins these partisan hacks will either get a second chance as ‘loyal opposition’, else be replaced as their host organizations try to retool for the new reality that their propaganda failed and they are marginalized if they do not change.

            • KenoshaMarge

              I suspect they will remain the same. If your ideology allows you to scrap your integrity it is a long way back to fairness and honesty. That requires insight and character, something in very short supply in the media.
              Given their disdain for their profession, the truth, the public and anything other than their opinion, I doubt they will change. They are too convinced of their own superiority.
              What has changed is the public opinion of them. Fewer people are getting their news from “old” media every day. CBS, NBC and ABC will either change or lose ratings until they are less than cable.I suspect they will not change.
              Print media all ready is dying. And if they can’t do their damn job of informing the public then I for one will not mourne their passing.

  • jrterrier

    Paul seems nervous. He’ll warm up as soon as he starts talking finances.

  • jrterrier

    R2 – change we can really believe in.

  • HARP2

    Is DOJ ‘Community Organizing’ Occupy Activists at the RNC?

    What are uniformed field representatives of the Department of
    Justice (DOJ) Community Relations Service (CRS) doing assisting
    Occupy/anarchist activists outside the Republican National Convention
    (RNC) in Tampa?

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/29/Is-Holder-s-DOJ-Community-Organizing-Occupy-Activists-at-the-RNC

  • jrterrier

    Gov Susana Martinez is knocking it out of the park also. WOW.

    who knew there were so many talented young Republicans. The DEMS are going to sound tired and stale during their convention.

    • FormerLiberal9

      “…I’ll be damned we’re Republicans.”

      Best line of the convention so far.

      • KenoshaMarge

        I thought so too! I laughed out loud. Really!
        She has long been a favorite of mine and I wanted her for VP. But her time will come. And maybe at the top of the ticket not as co-pilot.

    • FormerLiberal9

      Another star is born Susana Martinez. I wonder if the bots over at MSNBC saw her?

      • jrterrier

        MSNBC played both Condoleeza & Susana. Rachel Maddow said that they had just delivered good speeches but nothing about Romney. (always have to throw in a kicker). Except, they both did support Romney and his history of excellence.

        • BronwynsHarbor

          Once in a while Maddow’s intelligence and heart shine through. Rarely, but true.

        • KenoshaMarge

          Rachel Maddow wouldn’t be true to her inner lib if she ever just kept her damn mouth from being negative. Or from hearing “dog whistles” every time a Republican speaks. Hard to do that with Susanna and Condi but I have no doubt she’ll be hearing those dog whistles loud and clear when Romney speaks. Like a scorpion, it’s just her nature.

          I once somewhat admired her and listened to her radio program for a while. She was just too far left for me, even when I was a Dem. Plus there’s a meanness to her that makes me cringe. She also has a problem with the truth.

          Her giggling over the “tea-bagging” comments about the Tea Party with Anna Marie Cox finished her for me. She’s a pig.

          • HObama HObamanana

            For Maddow, an openly gay woman, to be all the time claiming that Republicans are bigots, yet to openly embrace a homophobic (their choice of word) slur such as teabagging is the height (depth is probably closer to the truth) of hypocrisy.

            • KenoshaMarge

              That’s how I see it.

  • jrterrier

    Condoleeza Rice doing a nice job in her speech. Just getting a spontaneous standing ovation when she talks about how her parents convinced her she could be Pres of US even though she grew up in segregated Alabama. Moving.

    Didn’t she support Pres Obama’s candidacy in 2008? Because she is coming on strong in support of Romney/Ryan.

    • jrterrier

      from huffington post: “SENSATIONAL: Condi Brings Down The House”

      • getfitnow

        did you sense Condi getting a little emotional? Not in a bad way. More a reflection of how critically important the election of R & R is.

        • HoosierinDixie

          Gov. Walker from Wisconsin had a tear running down his face when Ryan was speaking too. Great speeches can move people to tears.

      • HObama HObamanana

        She did too.

    • BronwynsHarbor

      No, she did not support Obama. It was that turncoat Colin Powell — made me SICK.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Wouldn’t it be funny if Powell was the mystery speaker tomorrow night? Not saying he will be. Just sayin….