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Lefties galore are very upset about Robert Gates

By SusanUnPC on November 28, 2008 at 5:00 AM in Current Affairs

“The Debate Over Gates,” by Chris Bower, OpenLeft.com:

The most important appointment decision Obama will make during the transition, bar none, is who becomes, or remains, Secretary of Defense. As I have noted in the past, the Department of Defense oversees the expenditure of 52% of all discretionary spending, rendering it literally impossible for any other cabinet Secretary to oversee as much federal money. Further, keeping Gates on would only worsen Democratic image problems on national security, as he would be the second consecutive non-Democratic Secretary of Defense nominated by a Democratic President. The message would be clear: even Democrats agree that Democrats can’t run the military. … Read all.

Huh?

The emotional age of most of these lefties is @ two to three years old. They’re rather egocentric and they just want what they want when they want it! And nothing else will do!!!

(Btw, we must take care that we don’t become the same way by sliding off to the far right fringes, where people behave much the same way.)

  • http://ezinearticles.com/?Three-Basic-Parenting-Styles&id=744499 Northwest rain

    Well the Republicans have been running these wars for the last (how LONG has it been??) Six years.

    Gates isn’t my favorite person because of his past history of making the old USSR menace a tad bit worse than it was. But he does know the Russians — and some of the players.

    Obama is going to fu** up — so he might as well share the blame with Gates. And frankly Obama is so far over his head that he couldn’t find his ass h*le without detailed direction — he needs all the help he can get so he won’t get us into more messes.

    Bush was dumb, Obama is dumber — and I don’t want to meet the dumbest.

    To me Gates is better than Rummy.

    • http://ezinearticles.com/?Three-Basic-Parenting-Styles&id=744499 Northwest rain

      Wasn’t Gates brought in because he was a loyal bush Sr. retainer and at the point GWB has screwed up so badly that adult supervision was required.

      Obama needs the same sort of adult supervision.

      Also Gates is a former Academic — so he might be able to “explain” military “stuff” to Obama who has absolutely no clue about the culture of the US military.

      Oh hell skip dumber — Obama is the dumbest.

      • Ferd Berfle

        Gates was one of the very few sane people in Shrub’s administration and was brought in more than likely because we were having our asses handed to us in Iraq under Rummy’s misdirection (as McCain correctly knew). The only reason Rummy was even considered for the job in the first place was because he was in the Ford Administration with Cheney (there’s THAT name, again) and was a great lap dog as Secretary of Defense. Rummy had the same useless idea then about a “lean and mean” military, which amounted to nothing more than “starved”. His running of the Defense Department was nothing short of criminially negligent.

        I remember thinking, when Rummy was nominated by Shrub, that he was getting a second opportunity to finish the job of ruining the military that he started in 1974.

        • Joe

          President Cheney, and Vice President Rummy, IMO.

          Even, now…

          • Ferd Berfle

            Indeed. Bush’s irrelevance and figurehead status was confirmed on November 5th. Where IS Cheney? I notice That One hasn’t talked to him, yet.

            • Joe

              He met with Biden, I would imagine poor Dick’s head is a little wooly about now.

              I can’t help but think of the scene in Bull Durham, on the bus, where Tim Robbins(as Nuke LaLouche) is singing “young girls they do get wooly,” Kevin Costner coming up form behind him, grabbing his guitar:

              NUKE

              (singing softly)
              Oh she may get wooly, women do get
              wooly, because of all the stress…

              CRASH

              I hate people who get the words wrong.
              It ain’t “woolly” it’s “weary” and
              nobody’s got stress, they’re
              wearing a dress.

      • makeji

        Look, I was a die-hard Hillary supporter and then switched to McCain, but to say Obama is the dumbest is just plain dumb. He was smart enough to get elected, however he did it. He is also showing a lot of smarts in his Cabinet picks. Gates is a brilliant choice for Defense, as is Hillary for State and Bill for whatever he will be doing (and he will be doing something). Obama is smart enough to know that he doesn’t know. Rather than bring in a bunch of rookies, he is bringing on board seasoned veterans – which was the whole point that both Hillary and McCain were trying to make about him.

        He is an opportunist and appears to be a pragmatist – using people to move ahead in his career and using people to maintain his stature.

        Like it or not, he’s the President and, let’s hope with the constant threat of assassination, likely to remain so. We don’t need any martyrs.

        It is one thing to be the loyal opposition and bring the faults to the fore, quite another to be divisive and continue to cling to the old arguments that didn’t fly during the campaigns.

        When I see Mary Matalin commenting favorably about Obama’s Cabinet choices, I actually do have some hope that this country can come together. Wonder of wonders.

        Time to get over being sore losers and look to how we can all get through this thing called life in one piece.

        Belated Happy Thanksgiving.

        • rw

          “He was smart enough to get elected, however he did it.” However he did it? Guess Odinga is pretty smart too.

        • rolling_thunder

          um…Hillary supporter turned into McCain supporter who is now in love gung ho over Barky? I doubt it OBOT. :grin:
          There is nothing to like about a man who blatantly hijacked the election from Hillary.
          We could have had Hillary Or MacPalin but instead we have a big eared dork who looks like a deer in headlights. That’s he look I see on the faces of people who start a new job. Stop your lies. People here are not sore losers. People here see right through Barky and can’t stand him or his fake act.

          • WildChild

            um…Hillary supporter turned into McCain supporter who is now in love gung ho over Barky? I doubt it OBOT.

            I doubt it too.

        • Ferd Berfle

          He was smart enough to get elected,

          This is just more the the ends-justify-the-means crap. He was smart enough to be elected, indeed. Yeah, and I’m smart enough to know he is a carpet bagger. Back at you.

        • Margaret

          He isn’t the President. He’s the president elect.

        • Brendy

          “He was smart enough to get elected, however he did it.”

          ***

          Yep. And, the people who actually voted for him and BELIEVED him are the REAL dumbies. Yes, Obama IS smart in knowing how to con people. But it doesn’t matter; thanks to Hillary and all of the other seasoned veterans he’s lining up to ‘show him the way’, to teach him everything he needs to know – he’ll come out smelling like a rose, and alas – getting all the credit. Yep, he’s smart alright.

        • elise

          It would seem he has more confidence in Bush’s judgement than he does his own otherwise why leave a man in an important position who disagrees totally with his stated position of ending the war?

          His answer? The American people expect experienced people in these dangerous times. That isn’t what he has been saying for over a year. Isn’t his experience as Community Organizer sufficient to enable him to make the important decisions for himself?

          Who is he listening to now? He is trying to convince us it is safer to leave the Bush appointee in place rather than find someone who agrees with his stated goals? He won and now he is scared out of his mind. He is allowing his transition team to make the decisions because he is completely lost. This is a shadow presidency and we don’t know who’s in charge.

          • Strawberrybitch

            NPR said that Leon Panetta was helping to pick Obama’s transition team…but I haven’t been able to find anymore about it.

            • elise

              I’ve heard that too Strawberry, but according to the link provided to the article by Chris Bower, this decision was made by those inside his campaign.

          • Galt

            Seems the Clinton’s and their people are in charge? Let’s hope I am right. I trust them over the Meshuga types Opampers has associated with in the past. Its shameful Opampers ego shoved aside the rightful winner of the primary. He is shitting his pants and pissing down his leg alternatively. He is way out of his league for certain.

        • Snickers

          smart? Oh please, I agree with NW Rain, he’s dumbest and he “stole” the election.

    • Hank

      “Bush was dumb, Obama is dumber — and I don’t want to meet the dumbest.”
      ___________________________________________________

      I’ll wait to see what the president-elect actually does before assuming the worst. It could turn out better then a lot of people think.

      • Ferd Berfle

        I’ll wait to see what the president-elect actually does before assuming the worst. It could turn out better then a lot of people think.

        I won’t hold my breath waiting for That One to suddenly have an epiphany concerning duty or honesty.

        • bemused

          At his age, you have a sample of half his life to predict the rest with. And he’s been consistently underwhelming. What are the odds he’ll change? Too bad for the followers who are upset about Gates. They had the same data set to work with and still managed to make an emotional, rather than realistic, prediction about his actions.

          • Ferd Berfle

            Agreed but I’ll take it one step further–his idolaters only saw the external wrapping, were entranced, and deliberately ignored the contents.

      • KintheNorthwest

        Actually I always thought what a dumb *** Bush was, but when we elected Obama I realized how dumb our ntion was.
        At least Bush cares about America.
        Obama only cares about himself and what kind of idol he will become.

        • Hank

          Only a Republican would say such a thing.

          • http://ezinearticles.com/?Three-Basic-Parenting-Styles&id=744499 Northwest rain

            ding ding ding — nomination for the dumbest remark.

      • elise

        Hank, I sincerely hope you’re right because I’m thinking it will be bad. Goolsbee’s name has come up again as an economic advisor. He is the one who was asked by Obama(or on his own which is worse) to speak with the Canadian Consul in Chicago about NAFTA. Goolsbee is a radical on free trade. If Obama doesn’t have and never had real policies of his own and doesn’t understand his responsibilities, he will be allowing others to make decisions for him and there won’t be any consistency. When we lost Hillary, we lost some one with an understanding of policy.

  • wodiej

    cripes, when can we get a President who isn’t dumb or dumber?? I thought it was bad enough when Bush got in. Then he got re-elected and now Obama. We’ve got a bunch of morons in this country.

    • Ferd Berfle

      The miscreants who foisted this jerk on us are incapable of thinking beyond style and format. They don’t understand the substance and content part because they have none themselves.

      • http://caffinequeen.wordpress.com/ caffinequeen

        Amen Ferd! That is exactly it theycare about the packaging and the advertising spin not the content.

        CQ

        • Ferd Berfle

          CQ: I remember when Bush I was criticized for not having the “vision” thingy. I suppose HRC wasn’t good enough because she didn’t get the “style” thingy.

          Well, they can have their vision and style thingies and I’ll take that substance thingy anyday of the week.

          • rolling_thunder

            Why hasn’t Hillary been named SOS yet? Is this more of the same with Barky ‘pretending’?

            He said he’d name her after Thanksgiving. I think we’ve been fooled again.
            :mad:

            • Ferd Berfle

              You may be right. On the other hand, HRC may be holding out with respect to her authority as SoS.

      • Hank

        That’s 66 million Americans lacking “substance and content”. That’s a pretty scary notion.

        • Ferd Berfle

          Or would you prefer 66 million addle-headed, no-information voters as the alternate pejorative? Either way, they were duped and we will all be paying the piper, as a consequence.

      • beebop

        0bama was style for the masses and no substance for the business community … which continues to play a shell game knowing that there is absolutely no punishment for raping and pillaging.

    • csuzeq

      I second that comment!

  • Judy L. NC

    Oh, well, then, with the expert assurance by the AP that BO is “fabulously fit” and by Men’s Fitness magazine that he is one of the 25 fittest men in America, I can stop worrying. We can all stop worrying. HA!

    • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

      No way! I saw a picture of Obama without his shirt on – shudder – he is one flabby man. He’s what you’d call a “skinny fat person.” Yuck!

      • Judy L. NC

        Yeah, now I remember that nasty Hawaiian surfing pic from last summer…Yuck is right.

      • Benjamin

        Further evidence that media sees what they want to see when it comes to Oflabba.

      • Clara Barton

        They surely didn’t get a look at his medical records to determine his fitness! This is a man who continues to smoke, so how does that fit in with “fitness”? Baloney. That magazine is trying to sell copies and get in good with Boyrama.

        • Ferd Berfle

          Boyrama

          LMAO.

          • FembotsForObama

            Boyrama — The best descriptor to date aside from Shrub and Slick Willie

            What does “fitness” have to do with anything? How “fit” was FDR? JFK had terrible pain and Addison’s Disease. Teddy was probably the most fit because he hunted and was an outdoorsman (i.e., lots of walking).

            Did anyone see the pics of the “fit” Obama riding his bike? Obviously a photo shoot. If someone really rode their bike the way he did (his bike was not fitted to him and his seat was way too low for someone of his height), they would blow out their knees. Anyone who rides knows you must have your knee over your ankle in line with your hip to get an effective spin.

            This label is just part of the myth that Oflabba is so great — gag me!

            • PKJayne

              lmao….you know the first three letters of Boyrama will be construed as racist.

              But I love that nick.

            • Ferd Berfle

              Boyrama — The best descriptor to date aside from Shrub and Slick Willie

              I also like the Chimpy McFlightsuit moniker (which was appropriate considering the codpiece he wore with it). Yecch.

  • karen for Clinton 2012

    Well who does the left have to blame for him not living up to their expectations? We warned them repeatedly that he says one thing and does another.

    He said what they wanted to hear, they knew that he was pandering, now they are griping. MoveOn said famously they owned the DNC, well, I guess they have figured out slowly they are the little people.

    Toooooooo Baaaaaad lefties, you get what you pay for.

    • http://caffinequeen.wordpress.com/ caffinequeen

      They will most likely blame us and the GOP like always. Never would they expect The One to be accountable. Or themselves.

      CQ

    • stodgie

      i for one will more than delighted to see the lefties whine. i consider myself now an independent. i used to say on polling point i leaned left now i lean right. not that i like bush or his gang of liars and thieves either. after the way they treated hillary and showed their meaness, i don’t give a rap what they think now or ever.

      • beebop

        Amen. Right there with ya’.

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ Not Your sweetie

    All I can say is Bwa-ha-ha-ha! What about that speech Obama made in 2002? And ‘fairy tale” being racist?
    But hey, Obama’s mere existence should inspire us
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/11/28/you-lucky-bastards-have-now-me-to-inspire-you/

  • Steve1

    I’m just loving it! Ha Ha Ha, told you fools that Barry Soetoro is and will always be a controlled puppet…He is not his own man. He is controlled, compromised and blackmailed…Too many people have shit on this guy and they can release it anytime they want. The extreme left-thrown under the bus, Daily Kos, Move On, George Soros types are in charge, hell so many puppet masters, can we all imagine what goods foreign intelligence has on this phony massiah? Can we say, CHANGE! Globe has a story on how ebraged Barry Soetoro is regarding that book which is going to published regarding the Larry Sinclair allegations, wondering when the drug dealers are going to start popping up, and they will! When others are going to start remembering their encounters….ummmmmm

    • Steve1

      enraged

  • karen for Clinton 2012

    In chat last night during NQ radio show, I asked about the left reaction to the obama appointments. I do not go to those pro-obama buffoon sites at all and was wondering if they are done with walking on air and if they have their feet back on the ground.

    Any comments about how they are waking up to reality is too little too late, but it is a just dessert which should be savored. There’s no doubt in my mind that this year from hell is an indication of what we will be subjected to in the future. There is every reason to expect nothing but chaos to ensue.

  • bert

    Lefties galore are very upset about Robert Gates

    So???? Serves them right!!!! They know everything and they did anything to get him elected. They and they alone know what is right for America. By and large I am just going to sit back and watch the show and the further erosion of America and its total unravelling. I think that only as we near rock bottom will be be able to begin rebuilding.

    • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

      You know, I am one of those people who believes that peak oil is a real and serious issue, and that even if we DID go to Iraq just “for the oil” that maybe there was a damn good reason for doing so.

      Radical leftists can’t look at the bigger picture. “War is bad” they say. Yeah, and so is America totally collapsing because we don’t have the oil to run things.

      Sound selfish for America to grab oil that others might want? Hardly. If America goes down, so does the rest of the world. We provide much needed stability for everyone. Europe is able to exist because of our military.

      I’m not a hawk but a lot of people can’t wrap their minds around a possible bigger picture.

      • Joe

        and that even if we DID go to Iraq just “for the oil” that maybe there was a damn good reason for doing so.
        ——–
        We can’t take oil that isn’t ours, by force.

        Period.

        The solution would have been to develop alternative energy, slowly moving the economy away form oil, or redeveloping economic ties, diplomatically, while allowing the spooks, and such, to do their work, as they always have through the years.

        Why this wasn’t done, and the reasons, (and methods) for going to war are simply criminal.
        PNAC, AEI, the whole neocon fantasy world is at fault for what we’re seeing now, I cannot stress how STUPID I find these men…

        Cheney, oil people, the wealthy have absolutely NO RIGHT to misuse the American military, have no right to try and direct an intelligence they do not understand simply to pursue adolescent delusions of omnipotence.

        The Iraqi war hurt the nation, and this is fact, this result is neither right, nor left.

        (They put Jack Keane in charge, simply because he told Cheney wanted he wanted to hear, devastating the military, the chain of command. He’s not qualified to plan a Sunday picnic, much less execute a doomed plan of empire).

        We are suffering economically, broke, really, the military has to be rebuilt, because of the insipid decisions made by Cheney, and Rumsfeld, and their hand picked kooks (and I mean stinking stupid kooks ), so far in over their heads to not even be in the same building as the smart people, so to speak.

        NO justification for Iraq, whatsoever, and no apologies, either.

        The level of incompetence is appalling, no way to rationalize Cheney, and Rumsfeld, and the OSP.

        If I didnt know better, I’d say someone was playing a joke on the neocons — you know, staff ‘em with stupid.

        • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

          Sorry, but there aren’t ANY viable alternative energy sources that will be ready in time for peak oil. NONE. Done my homework on this one.

          “We can’t take oil that isn’t ours, by force. Period.”

          Sorry, but we can and we did. And if the alternative is America falls into a Mad Max environment where the entire world collapses and reverts into a million little resources wars…well, I’m open enough to consider that maybe the alternative of America with no oil is a LOT worse than taking out a nasty dictator in the name of securing resources to avert future catastrophe.

          But you are kind of proving the point here about the left – “They and they alone know what is right for America.”

          Dick Cheney may be a lot of things, but downright STUPID is not one of them. He may be vicious, cruel, and Machiavellian, but don’t ever assume that man is stupid.

          • Joe

            You know, I don’t know how else to explain his decisions.

            You can dress it up all you want, but bottom line, his decisions were stupid.

            So, we agree to disagree.

            IMO, Dick Cheney is stupid, failed, and specious reasoning.

            Sorry.

            • Joe

              BTW, the reasoning you site is what lost the wars.

              Maybe you’ll never see it, but until the rest of the country does, we will fail until the less than capable ideologues are removed.

              I can only hope wiser heads prevail.

              • Joe

                cite, sorry.

              • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

                “BTW, the reasoning you site is what lost the wars.”

                What on earth are you talking about? We did not lose in Iraq.

                You’re so caught up in this naive notion that nations never need to engage in imperialism to secure resources.

                If you think our taking over Iraq was bad, just wait until oil becomes really scarce and China and India want their share.

                And as for “the rest of the country” – only a small percentage of wingnuts are violently opposed to the Iraq war. Otherwise, Bush would have never been re-elected in 04. Obama got in due to the economic meltdown, not because the majority of Americas want us out of Iraq.

                • Strawberrybitch

                  We do have the technology, we’ve had it. The mini coop is fielding it’s new electric model…Toyota had an electric Rav back in the 90′s and so did Detroit. They had the EV BACK IN THE 90′S!!!!!! But only in California. Hook it up to solar panels on your house and you pay about 2 bucks to fuel your car. Please watch WHO KILLED THE ELECTRIC CAR? If the US wanted to mass produce solar tiles for your home we could. And electric cars which have been around as long as gas powered ones. Think about it. You buy a cell phone that becomes obsolete the moment you take it out of the package yet we don’t have cheap solar panels for commerical use? Yeah right.

                  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

                    Sorry, you are being simplistic here. You can’t make electric cars and solar panels without petroleum.

                    Plastic comes from petroleum so how do you think cars and solar panels will be made without it? Never mind the energy needed to produce these things in the first place. The energy generating capacity of oil is often 10 times greater than any “green” alternative, which is why you can’t just easily replace oil.

                    Additionally, most of our crops are made possible with petroleum-based fertilizers – we could go all organic but that would take up a lot more farmland, which some would want to use for ethanol. Hunger could be one possible result of no oil.

                    Even if we did drive all our cars with electricity, we still need to generate that electricity at a source somewhere – solar panels alone won’t be enough – and we will run out of natural gas soon after we run out of oil. So beyond just powering cars, we are going to need ways to heat our homes.

                    At this point it would take a miracle of technology to get out of the serious cliff we are driving towards right now.

                    More info:
                    http://canadiandimension.com/articles/2006/07/07/556/

                    http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/secondpage.html
                    (scroll down to the alternatives section)

                • Snickers

                  The reality is we’re there and our presence created certain situations. Now we have to deal with them; and let’s face it, The One is not up to the task. And I would imagine he’s petrified, does not know what to say or do, and with the volatile Indian/Pakistan situation, any wrong word or move and BOOM we pay either with more attacks, Russian encroachments, the list is endless. And then we have the economic catastrophe. While the loonies who voted for That One grow more and more scandalized at his choices, we’re all going to pay the price.

            • Hank

              Yeah, I agree–I don’t think replicating the actions of George W. Bush would be productive. I think it would be suicidal.

  • Ferd Berfle

    That One will not keep a single promise made because he had no intention of so doing in the first place. He played 52% of the electorate with promises of a new brand of politics, which reeked even then of repackaged, dirty old politics. He said he would not build a bridge back to the 20th century. That was no bridge, it was a superhighway back to the 20th century with all the Clinton-era appointments. The bots would have been better off voting for HRC but they will deny that reality, too. We all know who will get the blame. All together now….

  • hootnannie

    Obama will be little more than a figurehead, it appears–still the blank slate onto which individuals can cast their own image. He has been treated like a symbol by the MSM, who demanded nothing more. We now have a black Prez, whose very election will theoretically right historic wrongs. For those on the far left who wanted a Marxist type–too bad, so sad. They’ve been left at the altar by a cad who’s run off with the supposed witch who gave him so much trouble!

    • Kal

      It’s going to do more than that. I predict that we are going to see a refocusing of federal spending, tax benefits, and political support around the needs of men, using low-income men of color as the Trojan horses in which to bring this change about. The gender gaps are already getting bigger, but we ain’t seen nothin yet.

      PUMA!!

      • http://ezinearticles.com/?Three-Basic-Parenting-Styles&id=744499 Northwest rain

        Thanks — you also see what I do.

        Women have not gained back jobs etc. lost during the first job loss of the early bush era.

        And now we are seeing a deliberate demonetization of women. This is a pattern that women economists have identified (probably written their thesis and dissertations on this subject).

        But first the messages about women’s need to “return to the home” will come from the media. It doesn’t matter that two incomes are needed by the family.

        White women are the target — and they have been for some time. Obama merely formalized the misogyny.

        Agreed — “we ain’t seen nothing yet.”

        Divide and conquer — women against women.

        Women are the enemy — the enemy is over population — and women & girls have been targeted.

        Yet when the female population numbers are pushed down — there is the little problem of excess males. (Remember the Mormon sect that dumps the coming of age males to eliminate the competition for females.)

        In China female babies have been killed for several generations — there is the strict one child policy in China. However — what of the huge male population?

        There is a huge male population in many poor countries, with no future.

        During the dark ages in Europe — millions of women were murdered — during the witchcraze era.

        The future for women doesn’t look very promising.

  • Sassy

    So, the Beau-o-Crats are getting restless already?
    We now have a “ladies man” on the way to the White House…in the mold of Sinatra, Elvis and the Beatles.
    The top hits are “Call me if you need me” and “That’s above my pay grade”!
    Sarcasm, folks!
    Regarding Secretary Gates…I understand that he, like others, was looking forward to returning home, but is willing to serve. I really admire those few who put themselves on the line, even though they loathe the environment of government.

  • benny

    Now that he gets to sit in the Big Chair, obie is petrified. Hes afraid of screwing up. So his appointments look more and more ridiculous. Hey obie, whoever you hire, you got to give the direction. I doubt that you’re smart enough to know what you’re doing. And if you dont give proper direction, all the hirees will be independent operators – doing exactly what they feel like doing. This is a case of dumb and dumber. When do we get a decent pres? I’m getting afraid that in this media age of deception, I’ll not live long enough to see another decent pres ever elected.

    • Ferd Berfle

      But hey, That One makes such a dashing cardboard cut-out, don’t you think?

      We can rest marginally better considering at least a few of those who will be working for him are actual people and not Stepford bobbing-heads.

    • Hank

      Well, shouldn’t he be a little afraid? I mean, would you prefer him to utterly unafraid of anything he does while managing the most powerful nation on earth? Fear is 1st cousin to Humility. Considering how little of that folks here have seen in Obama, I would think they’d appreciate that.

      Which of his appointments look “more and more ridiculous”. They seem shrewd, pragmatic and centrist to me.

      • Ferd Berfle

        Which of his appointments look “more and more ridiculous”. They seem shrewd, pragmatic and centrist to me.

        If the bots had wanted a centrist, they could have voted for a real one, HRC or McCain, and not the polyethylene provocateur, a fact which dovetails rather nicely with my earlier post concerning the emphasis on style and format as the sole justification for voting for That One.

        • Hank

          Well, that doesn’t answer my question, does it? Which of his appointments look “more and more ridiculous”?

          You guys are going to have to start offering some actual evidence if you want to provide an intellectual opposition to the incoming administration. So far, it’s not there. It’s just a lot of closed eyes, fingers in the ears, and loud mouths. A lot of “nanny-nanny boo-boos”.

          • WildChild

            well since you and the BOBO campaign spent so many months lambasting Hillary’s lack of foreign policy cred, I’d have to say by you own definition, Her appointment is ridiculous. Which illustrates our plight. It’s difficult to be the intellectual opposition of an administration that will do a one eighty like that and just as quickly get collective amnesia that they ever said anything different.

      • csuzeq

        Well, the American people had 3 real choices to hire to fill a very important job. There were 2 real action candidated, Cinton and McCain and 1 talker. They decided that going with “just words” can get the job done.

        In my life, if I keep hearing just words, but there is no action that goes along with it, the words don’t really do me much good. Not even if it is what I want to hear.

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  • mimi

    I thought my motto would have to be

    “Patience is a virtue.”

    But things are proceeding faster than even I anticipated.

    It’s beyond “I told you so,” for me. I just want to watch them self-destruct and hear their comments. After all, they were warned.

    • Ferd Berfle

      Perhaps, be careful what you wish for?

  • SJ

    So have we had any words of wisdom from the great one on the situation in India? I hope Obama is now starting to understand the buck is going to stop at his door, no longer well he be able to say I cant take 4 more years of Bush.

    For all those who are upset this is just the start of things to come, it is going to get really interesting on the world stage, and the great one will have to deal with all these issues or is he just going to be present this time around?

    • benny

      obie went yapp yapp yapp India yapp yapp yapp. He doesnt sound knowledgeable. Maybe when they told him Indian, he thought bout the native americans. :)

  • I’m a Linda too

    Egocentric runs from the TOP down, doesn’t it?

    I was laughing at blogger decrying the media just this past week, claiming THEY gave the country Obama DESPITE the media. rofl I don’t know if they paid attention, but the media is what carried Obama, that and the Clintons with economic mess. And O-shit, we saw, hired his “volunteers”, like the 400 trying to collect their salaries at one office in Indiana.

    If these “lefties” wish to discuss myths, maybe they should talk about the other one thwere Democrats are perceived stronger on the Economy. Hillary was, as Paul Krugman regularly pointed out-on both her health care and economics, as she had more left leaning economic advisers and had more stated programs to solve problems, but she was rejected by the Democrats, being hassled daily to drop out to give way to the Symbol. If folks actually paid attention, they would see that it was the Democrats that have mostly caused this financial mess.

    • Joe

      I disagree, politicians from both parties are on the take.

      It doesn’t help the problem when the truth isn’t recognized.

  • glennmcgahee

    Robert Gates for Defense and James Jones, National Security Director? James Jones, very respected in Washington, but James Jones was also a chairman on The Chevron/Exxon Corporation and Boeing. You’ve heard of those companies haven’t you? I remember Obama yelling about Chevron and obscene profits, not to mention Boeing, one of our largest military contractors besides General Electric, otherwise known as NBC/MSNBC. Take that you Progressives. Guess the only change you’re gonna get is a new face at the podium while the people behing that face are the same old Washington in-crowd.

    • Joe

      I have a real problem with anyone (who should have known better) supporting Obama in the primaries, even the general election.

      Knowing his background, knowing how his money kooks subverted our democracy, just.like.Cheney., how could any healthy American support him?

      If they weren’t smart enough or strong enough to stand up to what they saw, they aren’t fit to serve.

      And I acknowledge it’s a somewhat extreme position, but when the military doesn’t stand up and say enough, the country is fucked.

      If I were to be brutally honest, I’d say I see it as treason, and where I live, treason don’t fly.

      • Hank

        If you think joining the administration of the recently elected president-elect is “treason”, then the country ain’t fucked–you are.

    • tillthen

      Thanks, Glen. This is so funny! O’Same is fallin’ in line.

      • Joe

        I think it’s tragic, myself…

    • Ferd Berfle

      And that was reason #5745 why I could never vote for That One. We don’t need another 4 years of the same old shit to go along with the 8 years we just endured. Thanks a lot, bots.

      • benny

        lol

    • I’m a Linda too

      That was the only change he promised, wasn’t it? He wanted to be a symbol of change. He never said he was going to MAKE changes.

      Well, he did say he was going to bring a different kind of politics in his campaign. We see how that turned out. lmao

  • Sassy

    The lefties have been beating their drums for an exit from Iraq.
    Now they are facing the reality that regardless of who is heading up the Defense Department, that situation will be resolved WHEN it is resolved…period!

  • C.S.

    If everyone knows that Soertoro/Obama can’t do the job, then why doesn’t everyone do something to stop him now before he goes before the electoral college?

    And REAL Democratic presidents (elected one not selected ones) have done a dam_ fine job of winning wars for us. Just list them and you’ll see. Republicans? Not so good, Eisenhower, Nixon in charge of Viet Nam; Reagan and Bush I – little brush wars everywhere but no clear cut winners. And Bush II; what else can we say about him and his wars. And yet we let them play on by saying mystery man Obama can’t do any better job than the original yet let the little Bush clone continue on it’s greedy way.

  • hadenough

    “Lefties galore”

    What’s a leftie? openleft is just a bunch shameless self promoting sheepherders just like the giant orange stupid. Just like about 99% of the liberal-whacko-sphere. If the liberal-whacko-sphere were big ‘D’ Democrats and/or liberals and/or progressives they would have backed Hillary. They didn’t.

    • Ferd Berfle

      What’s a leftie?

      Moo

  • Seattle Moss

    All I can say to the left wing lunatics out there that thought you would have retreat and defeat and National suicide so that you can proclaim you were right about Iraq

    Ha Ha!!

    Obama will govern as a conservative!!

    Thank God for Hillary at SOS

    This is my last blog entry for the next several days..
    You all take care!

    • benny

      you busy, seattle? going MIA on us?

      • Seattle Moss

        Benny,
        I’m moving to a new house today. The cable guy won’t be out till Tuesday…
        I will still be reading your posts on my blackberry.

        Maybe I will sneak into a hotel and rattle off a few posts

        It’s going to be a tough few days!

        • Ferd Berfle

          I’m moving to a new house today.

          I did the same thing last year AND the year before at this time (company moves). I feel your pain, Seattle. Good luck to you.

          • Seattle Moss

            Thanks Ferd,
            I wonder if Obama would have gamed the system to become president knowing that they would take away his blackberry.

            Wwwwwwaaaaaahhhhh!!!

            • benny

              Hey, good luck to you. we gonna miss you. :)

              • Seattle Moss

                I’m going to miss you too Benny

                Are you still in India..What’s up?

                • benny

                  On business. But its a bit messed up due to the terrorists attacks.

                  • Seattle Moss

                    Well..Be careful out there!

                    and God Bless you!

            • Ferd Berfle

              I wonder if Obama would have gamed the system to become president knowing that they would take away his blackberry.

              Probably not. His blackberry and Mr. Teleprompter are his entire persona–he is just another pedestrian politician without them, I’m sure.

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ Not Your sweetie
  • AdrianS

    From American’s Must Know – http://americamustknow.com/
    11/25/2008

    Cort Wrotnowski’s case from Connecticut is now in the Supreme Court. That’s 3 cases in the Supreme Court Against Barack Obama!

    11/25/08 – AFter another battle with Mr. Bickell, the clerk that has a bad habit of obstructing justice, Cort Wrotnowski, with the help of Leo Donofrio (attorney handling the New Jersey Case), appealed his case from Connecticut to the United States Supreme Court. His case was docketed at 12:38 PM on 11/25/08 and Honorable Associate Justice, Ruth Bader Ginsburg will be looking at the case.

    From Atlas Shrugs:
    “Also remember that on December 13, the Electoral College meets to casts its votes. If it has been determined that Mr. Obama is an illegal alien and therefore ineligible to become President of the United States, the Electors will be duty-bound to honor the Constitution.”

    http://www.earthfrisk.com/blog/?p=124

    • KintheNorthwest

      it sure would be nice to see Obama’s real COLB and to hear the answers about his school indonesian school registration.

      • bemused

        Followed by a review of his SSS card, his FS-1 visa to go to Columbia, and his Indonesian passport. I think I would most like to see him shot down for a fraudulent late SSS registry, though, a nice finish to his “I would have enlisted” comment. (Punishment for being over 10 years late to register: cannot work in the Executive branch, or the Postal Service, plus fine, plus jail)

        • Hank

          Ain’t gonna happen, ain’t ever gonna happen. Face it, you’re stuck with your worst nightmare: President Barack Obama.

    • Ferd Berfle

      It seems to me that if SCOTUS could put Bush in, they can certainly keep That One out.

      We’ll see if they have the courage ond convictions of their high office to so do.

  • epicuriosu

    “The emotional age of most of these lefties is @ two to three years old. They’re rather egocentric and they just want what they want when they want it! And nothing else will do!!!”

    ***********

    you know, it’s not just the media, it’s marketing…they wanted Oflabba as much as they want the new Blackberry Storm.

  • Galt

    Its a shame to me many leftists swallowed the koolaid just like many on the right drank Bush’s koolaid. I like many of the ideas from both ends of the spectrum. I do not believe we should limit our choices to one “menu” or the other, as is the case with many people. And people on either end need to keep their thinking caps on when choosing leaders. They should be willing to vote for the other party if their own party’s candidate is a sack of shit.

  • The Robot

    Fox News/right-wingers have quite a nerve talking about “semantics” – they’ve utterly polluted the discourse with their insistence on twisting language to suit their aims. But then they are astoundingly similar to the lefties: brazen in their hypocrisy and completely unable to view objectively their own behavior.

    • Ferd Berfle

      The hard left meets the hard right at the fringes and becomes the same POS philosophy.