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Susan Rice is a Damn Liar

Bumped Up. Matthew Weaver‘s Note: On Capital Hill today, Matt Olsen, Director of the National Counterterrorism Center now admits this was a terrorist attack with links to al Qaeda and Senator Collins expressed concern over the lack of security, as apparently confirmed in an intelligence briefing, that cost the lives of Ambassador Stevens and three others.

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US Ambassador to the UN is a damn liar. She claimed that the two retired Navy SEALS were part of the Consulate security team. Nope.

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The SEALS apparently were working with the CIA base in Benghazi. They were not part of the State Department security apparatus.

Why was Ambassador Stevens sent to a high threat area without adequate security?

Let’s put this into perspective. My former boss at State Department, Morris “Buzz” Busby, was subsequently Ambassador to Colombia during the reign of terror of Pablo Escobar. Everywhere Buzz went he was accompanied by a State Department security force. That force was in addition to significant security measure around the Embassy in Bogota. The drug traffickers in Colombia were trying to kill him. They failed because the security measures defeated them.

Ambassador Stevens was not given that option. Hell, my friend, Ambassador John Menzies had a security detail of active duty Navy SEALS protecting him in Bosnia during that horrific civil war. Efforts to kill him were thwarted by his security detail. Stevens had nothing. A lone RSO and a local militia force is not an adequate or sufficient security team. Ambassador Stevens blood is on the hands of Hillary Clinton. She failed to give him what he needed to survive.

And it is not that there were no warnings. The Libyan Government warned us:

Three days before the deadly assault on the United States consulate in Libya, a local security official says he met with American diplomats in the city and warned them about deteriorating security.

Jamal Mabrouk, a member of the February 17th Brigade, told CNN that he and a battalion commander had a meeting about the economy and security…

“The situation is frightening, it scares us,” Mabrouk said they told the U.S. officials. He did not say how they responded.

Mabrouk said it was not the first time he has warned foreigners about the worsening security situation in the face of the growing presence of armed jihadist groups in the Benghazi area.

The last time we had an Ambassador killed was when Jimmy Carter was President. Obama has done him one better. We lost an Ambassador and a Consulate.

Heck of a job Barky.

  • lola828

    “Matt Olsen, Director of the National Counterterrorism Center now admits this was a terrorist attack with links to al Qaeda”
    Nice strawman! The Obama Adminstration never said it was not a terrorist attack.

    It was actually “Security Expert” Larry Johnson in his initial comments on these events through is “Muslims should go fuck themselves” and “dragging Stevens through the streets” comment that first claimed that the attack on the Libyan U.S. consulate was just a mob attack in reaction to the offesive movie. Larry Johnson like Romney reacted with his political attack/commentary before he even knew the facts. I would not think that would be something you would look for in a “security expert”.

  • HELENK2

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/09/19/hope-and-change-america-drops-to-18th-most-economically-free-country/

    America has slipped to the 18th most economically free country

    the backtrack bunch are dancing with joy

  • HELENK2

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/09/19/Exclusive-Obama-Reverses-Position-On-Intel-Briefs-Drops-iPad-For-Live-Meetings

    excuse my language
    isn’t this just fucking wonderful backtrack finally gives up ipad and goes to live intel meetings.
    i am just so underwhelmed

    • HARP2

      Wasn`t it just a few days ago, that he had trouble using his iphone and needed help ?

      • HoosierinDixie

        LOL. That reminds me of that photo from 2008 where he was talking on a house phone but the phone was upside down. Smartest President Evaaah.

    • shelldoll2

      Obama will go to one or two intel meetings and make sure his picture is taken. Jarrett will still be there as he zones out.

      No one changes that quickly. He’s doing this for the photo ops.

      It’s a shame it took the murder of Americans, the burning of consulates and embassies, and the raising of Al Q’s flag in place of the Stars and Stripes to get his attention.

      This just proves to me that if it takes all of that to get him to do his job – he doesn’t deserve the job.

  • HARP2
  • AnitaFinlay

    Please forgive me for being off topic, but I just spotted this on another thread and thought if any millionaires were passing by, they might want to act on this:
    House passes new Buffett RuleThe House on Wednesday passed Republicans’ own version of the Buffett Rule, which allows wealthy Americans to voluntarily pony up to reduce the deficit.The bill, labeled the Buffett Rule Act, passed by voice vote, meaning Democrats and Republicans agreed with it. Under the legislation, which would still need Senate approval, taxpayers could check a box on their taxes and send in a check for more than they owe to the IRS.“If Warren Buffett and others like him truly feel they’re not paying enough in taxes, they can use the Buffett Rule Act to put their money where their mouth is and voluntarily send in more to pay down the national debt, rather than changing the entire tax code to inflict more job-killing tax hikes on hard-working Americans,” said Rep. Steve Scalise, the Louisiana Republican who wrote the bill.Laugh of the day!

    • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      Let’s see if Buffet, Obama, and others do so.

      • getfitnow

        Buffet’s too busy disputing the near One billion$ (may be over that now) he owes the IRS. these fools are such hypocrites.

        • JohnnyTwoDog

          I think the antiquated term is smokescreen. Buffet blows smoke up Obama’s ass.

      • HoosierinDixie

        I would like to see on camera a reporter confront all of Obama’s Hollywood pals with a pledge form. They can include all of those Dem congressmen (women) and bundlers too. Time to put their money where their mouth is. Now that would make really great reality tv.

        • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

          The fact that that would occur will cause this legislation to get sidetracked and not passed and signd.

          • HoosierinDixie

            I disagree Matthew. I think it invalidates their claim that the rich can and should pay more if the Senate Dems try to block it or Obama refuses to sign it. The House Reps are calling their bluff to put up or shut up.

            • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

              I hope you are correct.

              • HoosierinDixie

                I doubt they will take it up now anyway because they are getting ready to break to campaign in their home states.

    • binky354

      I love it!

  • piattq

    Bret Bair on Fox News broke this story on Special Report this evening. Al Quaeda leader likely planned and led the attack. He was released to Libya in 2007 under the condition he was to remain in prison for the rest of his life. He did not and has been involved in this and at least one other attack. Fox had his name and info. I think it is becoming clear—Cairo was a diversion along with the stupid tape. The real mission was taking out an Ambassador and a consulate. We need to know more—like how many Presidential Security Meetings has O NOT attended? Where is Hillary Clinton. Noticeably missing now on these events. Congress needs to call her before them. I think she refused to cover Os ass—I would like to think she drew a red line. Maybe not.

    • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      I previously thought the economy and debt would be the deciding issue for November. Now I’m beginning to think Obama’s incompetence has now come home to roost in the area of foreign policy. Both he and Hillary have failed their 3 a.m. call.

      And failure to prepare for the unsurprising attack isn’t the only problem. Obama has set up Afghanistan for failure as well. Yes, it already is lost cause but to announce explicit departure date means that the Taliban can take a break until we leave. Worse, knowing we are quiting, any further American deaths are unnecessary blood on Obama’s hands.

      And Hillary, how does she reconcile her well-meaning commitment to protect Afghani women? Do we evac them to the US as we leave?

      • HObama HObamanana

        And remember, leading up to their convention we were told it would focus on Obama’s foreign policy successes. And just the Friday before the attacks Obama was chiding Romney for having no foreign policy experience. This issue (this horrible circumstance) has the ability to end Obama’s presidency. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving lying asshole.

      • JohnnyTwoDog

        So much for “I killed Osama”.
        Osama is dead, GM is alive.
        Does that really work in Michigan? The cold must have frozen their brains. That giant underground fungus in the upper peninsula must have infected their brains.

        • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

          And I read in several places that GM is likely to go bankrupt after the election. Even now people should not forget the perfect example of the Obama Volt.

        • Eyes Wide Open

          Maybe this explains it in part

          Michigan: the Islamic capital of the US
          http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/zieve/070111

    • HELENK2

      http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/25/world/guantanamo-files-libyan-detainee-now-us-ally-of-sorts.html?hp=&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1347728400-2My68hL/Qqy52SG0reimIg&_r=3

      the story gets worse. from gitmo detainee now US ally of sorts led attack

      Is there anybody in this whole government that has a clue of just who is who in the ME.

      • CathyInKs

        I think our government is clueless!

        • JohnnyTwoDog

          Careless and they could care less.

      • piattq

        And why would the US appoint an ambassador to Libya who was openly gay? It doesn’t bother anyone in the US mostly but this is an Islamic red hot flag—the US didn’t think that would be problematic? Reports say he was sodomized/tortured—US doesn’t think that was probably equal or greater incentive to strike? Clear to me the AQ is more than alive and well—all those protests throughout the ME were clearly co-ordinated showing that the radical Islamists have moved out of AGhan/Pak/Iraq and are reforming in North Africa with deadly effect. piattq.

        • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

          Obama probably thought his loving Islamic friends would understand since Mohammed , himself, was a pediphile sociopath.

    • Hokma

      Anderson Cooper reported that Chris Stevens and State knew he was on an al Qaeda hit list.

      Obama is apparently not terribly disturbed by any of this because when the killing happened he flew out to Vegas for a fundraiser and has been bopping around on Letterman and hanging with Jay-Z and Beyonce. He is obviously completely detached from world affairs. I guess his hiring Hillary absolved any responsibility for daily activities regarding international relations or wars.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Given the seriousness of the matter (to us) do you suppose that any of the Sunday shows will ask the Obama representative about this? Seriously, shouldn’t Obama or his minions be asked why in the hell he thought it appropriate to attend fundraisers, interviews and photo sessions immediately following another Al Qaeda attack on September 11th? I can almost see FOX asking it but I’m not exactly very confident of it.

      • CathyInKs

        I don’t know how anyone with a shred of human decency could justify Obama’s actions in the face of Ambassador Stevens death!

        • JohnnyTwoDog

          I guarantee his family doesn’t.

    • Hokma

      And while the Middle East burns – Ambassadors are assassinated – Iran is months away from a bomb – and Israel is isolated by Obama.

      He has no time to meet with Israel’s Netanyahu at a time of potential war, but he certainly had time to have an exchange with Captain Morgan:

      http://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/248501257055121409/photo/1

      And from Obama’s twitter.

      • CathyInKs

        It is just unbelievable! I think Obama will go down as the worst president in history – provided of course we have a future after Obama!

      • getfitnow

        I think I read a headline, our ambassador to China was in a near miss event yesterday/today.

      • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

        And he pulled it off without a teleprompter.

  • Retired_from_SPOnaj

    Much as I would like to get into this, unlike Larry, I can’t. However, allow me this one observation as to the veracity of Larry’s post. If one wants to find mice, one follows a cat. In this particular instance, Larry is a cat. No further comment will be offered on this matter.

  • lola828

    “Ambassador Stevens was not given that option.”
    How do you know that?

    “The SEALS apparently were working with the CIA base in Benghazi. They were not part of the State Department security apparatus.”

    You are also not in a position to know that either.

    As for the Libyan Government “warning” you quote, it seems very generic and not specific.

    I think you would need to ask Stevens himself why he was in Benghazi without enough security?

    • TeakWoodKite

      You are one twisted idiot.
      Ask the dead to answer for the mistakes of the living?
      lola828, You are in charge of LJ’s security clearance and the experience he has?
      How the fuck do you know what position LJ is in? or anyone else for that matter?! Stick to what you know, which is next to nothing.

      • lola828

        Larry Johnson does not know the specifics of the operating environment and what decisions were made on that particular day in Benghazi, no matter his security clearances. It is likely only Stevens himself who knows why he went to Benghazi without proper security around 9-11.

        • TeakWoodKite

          No, I’m sure he wouldn’t. I mean really Mr. Johnson has no idea what the protocols are or what the specifics of the “operating environment” are in Benghazi. None of his well earned decades of experience at the State Dept or CIA would allow him faintest clue of why Ambassador Stevens was permitted to travel in such a manner.
          And you do?
          I have zero experience. What I do have is common sense and a functioning brain, which is capable of critical thinking. Lacking both, you do not understand the multiple negligent homicides that Obama is responsible for, hundreds if you add in the dead Mexicans and federal law enforcement agents on the southern boarder. …Oh wait we were talking about Libya and the “flash mob” Amb Rice is lying about. I read Obama is flying drones for target sets over the ‘hood” in Benghazi. A drone late and a missle short.
          I will even concede the point you maybe right about one thing. “It is likely only Stevens himself who knows”, because everyone above him was clueless all the way to Motel 1600.
          To bad he ain’t talking since Obama murdered him.

          • shelldoll2

            I think lola828 is a member of the Obama administration. I gotta give the GWB administration credit. I actually talked to and debated them on line and they didn’t hide who they were.

            I won the debates BTW.

            Funny how under GWB as President had ultimate responsibility.
            Under Obama? Everyone’s fault but his.

            If you have to spend all of your time explaining how the President couldn’t know this, or couldn’t do that, you have a situation where the President is not the President.

            That is not leadership. I love how Obots who have no national security experience spout talking points as thought they’re experts.

            Next the Obots will claim they know how government works although most can’t name the three branches or the number of Justices of the Supreme Court.

            They don’t even know the three branches are co-equal in power.

            Their current favorite does not trump that. Unless, of course you want a dictatorship. Maybe a dictatorship of the proletariat? Now who was for that? Lenin maybe? Redistributing wealth? Straight out of Lenin, Stalin, and Mao. Forget all of those people they killed.

            Same as what’s going on now. Forget those dead Americans, burned out embassies, and American flags replaced with Al Q flags. Obama is all.

            • TeakWoodKite

              Spot on. I am amazed at lack of common sense Obots cherish. While not exclusive to them, it is certianly the defining feature.

        • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

          Wrong asshole. As always. Dead ass wrong. I’ve got friends directly involved and they are sickened by the failure of the Department to require Stevens to exercise the basics of security.

          • lola828

            “friends directly involved”

            Your credibility has been shot now for some time given all your ridiculous posts on this ridiculous hate Obama website.

          • lola828

            “I’ve got friends directly involved ”

            Your crediblity is completely shot, given your comments on this website and given this website period.

          • lola828

            “I’ve got friends directly involved ..”

            You crediblity is completely shot given your comments on this website.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1429578258 Cerry H Klaver

      So you choose to blame Ambassador Stevens for not having enough security? It’s not his choice. That directive comes from someone higher up because it is POLICY.

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      You stupid motherfucker. You do not know a goddamn thing about this. No Ambassador in the world has the power or authority to dictate what security they will or will not have. Sorry you loathsome bag of pond scum. Security is dictated by the professionals unless overridden by the politicians. FUCK OFF.

      • lola828

        I don’t think you know a damn thing about this either. That is the point.

        Ambassadors have a lot of say about how much security is around them when they are out of the Embassy and they also have a say in where they choose to go.

        • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

          NO THEY DO NOT, YOU IGNORANT TWIT. YOU HAVE NEVER WORKED IN SECURITY OR AT STATE DEPARTMENT IN COUNTER TERRORISM. AMBASSADORS ARE NOT SECURITY PROFESSIONALS. YOU HAVE NO EXPERIENCE IN THIS AREA WHATSOEVER.

          • lola828

            Given your comments on this website it is hard to believe you ever worked in security.

            By the way you know nothing about my background.

            • Hokma

              I know who Larry Johnson is, his experience, and his credibility.

              And then I look at you – a basement dwelling idiot whose entire body of knowledge could fit on a push pin (the pointed end) and is based entirely on whatever left wing garbage turns up on a Google search – and I have to laugh when you question his bona fides.

              What are yours? A game of Stratego? Or whatever is in that tomb of socialist propaganda whether it is Mother Jones or that dream team.of Daily Koz Kidz.

              • JohnnyTwoDog

                Stratego? you are being too kind. I am thinking Marvel Comics. Stan Lee is Lolas advisor.

              • lola828

                clap, clap, clap..

        • JohnnyTwoDog

          I am confused Lola, yesterday you claimed it was the fault of a movie, today you say it was Ambassador Stevens fault. What will it be tomorrow.
          Who is responsible for providing security to our Embassies and diplomats as they travel the globe, especially in war zones Lola? Do you have any idea? Clue – it’s not the diplomats. They are not tasked with their own security.
          Feel free to shout it out when you solve the riddle.

          • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

            Lola828′s excuse will depend on the talking points it is given in the morning.

          • lola828

            “I am confused Lola, yesterday you claimed it was the fault of a movie,”
            I never said that and I never said it was Stevens fault.

            • TeakWoodKite

              No you just wanted ask him about his security even though he’s dead. Way to go asshole.

        • FLDemFem

          I am the daughter of a Foreign Service officer, and Larry is right. The Ambassador has the security assigned to him, he has no choice in the matter. Why? Because he has access to classified information that requires the proper security.

      • JohnnyTwoDog

        Security is dictated by the professionals unless overridden by the politicians. FUCK OFF.
        That is always true. And, the lack of Professionals is astounding. It is not the ambassadors choice. Just like the President can’t duck his SS detail. Nah don’t need um is not going to make the SS disapear.

  • HoosierinDixie

    Larry do you think the “powers that be” will speed up our withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan in the wake of the suspension of joint operations? Since the training of the Afghanis was part of the exit strategy, I don’t see the point of prolonging our involvement at the risk of losing more of our troops.

  • jrterrier

    Richard Grennell on the red line on Iran (which the media and the administration cannot seem to identify) and the 6 UN resolutions establishing the red line.
    http://youtu.be/a37KBIZRSTc
    Grennell is my newest hero, behind Sununu. He’s smart, looks good, and knows what he’s talking about.

    • DianaLC

      Found your link for Grennell. He IS good. I know I wouldn’t have been so patient with that Carol person. Does she think her job as a journalist is to define the parameters of discussion so narrowly that the only thing anyone can say is, “you’re right! Obama is God”?
      He did a great job of hanging in there and toward the end she was almost actually listening instead of interrupting.

    • Theymustbemorons

      That’s a great debate between Grennell and the broadcaster. Hope Romney sees it. I’d like to know why Grennell is the “former” foreign policy advisor to Romney. Why on earth isn’t he still working in that capacity? Interesting how important it is to not give the previous administration credit for anything, including the current “red lines” discussed in that video. The broadcaster kept redirecting the conversation away from that every time Grennell made the point that the “red lines” went back to the previous administration. (You know, “he who must not be named.”)

      • jrterrier

        My understanding is that there was a big to do from some on the right because Grennell is gay. Grennel resigned but he said that Romney asked him to stay on but it was his decision to resign.
        But he’s been out in support of Romney big time. The nice thing about Grennell is that he knows what he’s talking about from the many years he worked as the President’s spokesperson at the UN. I think he worked for 4 presidents. He doesn’t seem that old but maybe it was Reagan, Bush 42, Clinton, & W. A lot like Sununu in that they know the subject and aren’t just talking heads.

    • Theymustbemorons

      Grennell is very articulate and clear when he speaks. Damn shame if this is true:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Grenell

      Sad for our country, too. The left has the “abortion nose ring” to manipulate the women’s vote. The right has the “no gay” nose ring to manipulate the conservative vote. And the band plays on.

  • FLDemFem

    This would be the same Libyan security that invited the Ambassador to Benghazi and when the trouble started showed the rioters where his safe house was? Not sure I would be believing a word of their explanation. In fact, I am positive that I don’t believe them. They were responsible for the Ambassador’s security and handed him over to his murderers.

    • DianaLC

      Yes, I keep in my heart the memory of the computer guy who wrote to friends just before being ambushed and killed that the “police” were taking pictures there. Why?

    • TeakWoodKite

      If the story in the Guardian is correct (link up thread) and the US had foreknowledge that a threat was present it doesn’t matter what the Libyans did. The ball was dropped and US citizens died. That blood is on Obama’s hands while he, Obama, is out there burning American flags.

  • DianaLC

    Thanks, LJ, for making this very clear–again. I really do have to get rid of my local newspaper. Headlines about the stupid supposed anti-Mohammed film and how it’s at the root of everything. I was so mad just seeing the headline, the paper went from the plastic back it was thrown in to my driveway to the recycle bin.
    I am sick of the spin—no, the LIES from our lying government officials.

    • MJP

      Our paper was bought out by the McClatchy family from California. I only get it Sunday for the ads and coupons and never look at the articles. They really showed their stripes during the Obama-Hillary debacle.

      The paper is getting smaller and smaller. Why could that be? Ha-Ha.

    • binky354

      Send a “letter to the editor” Diana and tell them what you think. My local newspaper won’t report anything on national news.

  • elizabethrc

    Has anyone ever tried to add up the number of incompetents Obama has placed into office? Rice is just another one. They all have one thing in common: they bring an extraordinary degree of arrogance with them, unwarranted though it may be. It is this arrogance, starting with Obama himself that is turning the American people off. We just don’t like being lectured to, especially by people who get so many things wrong.

    • HObama HObamanana

      I take a slightly different view. I don’t think they are incompetent, I believe they are acting upon orders. Intentionally incompetent, if you will.

  • jrterrier

    Sorry to sneak this OT post in. But while we are talking about lies, here is another story about Romney’s generous acts. Mitt Romney, Friend in Need
    http://www.redstate.com/2012/09/17/mitt-romney-friend-in-need/#

    • DianaLC

      jrterrier–you and Sununu!!!! Thanks!!!

      • jrterrier

        I wish. By the way, Richard Grennell is becoming another Sununu. Grennell was a spokesperson for 4 US presidents at the UN. He was Romney’s foreign affairs spokesperson before he ended up resigning over some opposition to him (he’s gay). He has said Romney asked him to stay. He’s been on the cables challenging Rice’s comments about the spontaneous reaction to the movie.
        RichardGrenell JFK said in 61′ “Ask not what your country can do for you…” and Dems applaud. Mitt says it and he’s out-of-touch.

        • DianaLC

          Thanks! I will look for Grennell whenever I can.

  • HObama HObamanana

    It appears as if we have a case of Dog the Wag. Instead of a fake war created by Hollywood to boost the reelection chances of a candidate, we have a real war covered up by the media to boost the reelection chances of a candidate. Think about it. We have an obvious enemy that we are being told is really our friend. Just look at a map of the countries where these spontaneous uprisings are taking place. What we have are the beginnings of another world war, fought not (at least now) with weapons but with lies. A war we are currently losing. And where are our friends and allies? They are going along with the lie that these violent protests, these massive uprisings are the spontaneous reaction to some stupid YouTube video.

  • jrterrier

    On the anniversary of 9/11 and for the first time since Pres Carter, an American Ambassador is killed in a foreign country; 3 other Americans were killed at that embassy; the embassy was burnt to the ground; our flag was torn down at various embassies across the world, huge numbers of people across the middle east are chanting death to america, burning our flag, and attacking our embassies. Meanwhile, in Afghanistan, where our primary mission is to train the Afghanis, we’ve halted any joint training exercies with the Afghanis because of the 36 Americans that the ‘friendly’ Afghanis have killed this year.

    On the home front, the FED announced that it was going to print more monopoly money. And for the second time in one president’s term, the US Debt was downgraded this time to -AA. That’s a -AA folks. don’t know if we’ve ever had such a low rating. Moody’s downgraded our 5 of our biggest 6 banks.
    http://www.courier-journal.com/usatoday/article/57783160?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CBusiness%7Cp
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304441404577480751440488004.html

    And the headlines are . . . wait for it . . . the Romney campaign is in chambles.

    Not the President’s mideast US policy is in chambles, not his economic policy is in chambles. And they wonder why the NYT and WAPO are losing money and the top 3 networks are losing viewership. NUTS.

    • TeakWoodKite

      What’s nuts is the bold face lies the MSM repeats as news coming out of Motel 1600. And it is accepted as true by millions of people. That is nuts.

    • KenoshaMarge

      What is insane is that so many believe this crap!

  • Constance

    I check out several websites every day, those sites being NoQuarterUSA, Alex Jones, Lyndon LaRouche, Hillaryis44, Christopher Bollyn, Jack Cashill, and Webster Tarpley. These sites usually have info that would never appear in the mainstream media, which why I like to visit them. Of course, that doesn’t mean the news isn’t slanted; it most certainly is. Nevertheless, it’s helpful to compare the analyses and opinions.

    For this Libyian outbreak:

    NoQuarterUSA says Hillary has blood on her hands.

    Lyndon LaRouche (who never criticizes the Israelis or the Russians and usually not Hillary) says that Hillary shares responsibility in so far as she should not be in the position of Secretary of State in the first place because she is somehow compromised by the bullying, murderous Obama.

    Webster Tarpley (who never criticizes the Israelis or the Russians and always blames NATO) says the murder of Christopher Stevens was a Mormon Mafia/CIA operation to generate an October Surprise to inject Mitt Romney into the WH ala Ronald Reagan.

    Alex Jones’ guest, Steve Piezcenik (sp?) says that the killing
    was an Israeli operation directed the 9/11 instigators, lunatic BIbi Netanyahu and his Neocon cohorts, who want a pretext to attack Iran and that Hillary Clinton is doing an excellent job trying to keep things under control in the Middle East.

    Hillaryis44 is always saying that Obama is an untrustworthy boob and Mitt Romney is a bumbling idiot.

    Jack Cashill makes a very case for Obama the fraud.

    And Christopher Bollyn, whose existence nobody but nobody even acknowledges, has written two fact-filled books about the Israeli Zionists role in 9/11. As far as I know, he hasn’t weighed in on the Libyian siituation yet. He’s probably waiting to get the facts.

    So take your choice….whatever suits you ….that’s what most folks do. One question though, is it not within the realm of possibility that Hillary was DEPENDING on advice from Christopher Stevens himself, who I gather was a Middle East expert. And who was he depending on?

    Depending on?

    • MJP

      If the bots are conjuring up conspiracy theories about the ambassador’s killing, at least their brains are working enough to perceive that this horrific event reflects very badly on Hillary and the big delusion, Obama.

      • HObama HObamanana

        I doubt their brains are working enough for that to occur.

      • Constance

        I am sure that any of these “bots”, whatever that is, would be delighted, as would I, if you could refer us to a website or news source that has a full, factual accounting of exactly what occurred surrounding this horrific event. Would that be FoxNews, MSNBC, Reuters, UPI, Associated Press, Al Jeezera, Drudge Report, WND, Russia Today, Who’s got the scoop…please let us know. We are all so confused out here.

        • MJP

          Bots are Obamabots, mindless believers in all things Obama. Kind of like the MSM.

          Swoon first, think later.

          As far as the attack, the film had nothing to do with it, according to the president of Libya. proving Rice and Hillary to be liars.
          From NPR:
          Consulate Attack Preplanned, Libya’s President Says
          http://www.npr.org/2012/09/16/161228170/consulate-attack-preplanned-libya-s-president-says

          • CathyInKs

            Thanks for the link MJP. I find it interesting that the President of Libya is acting more “presidential” than our president. He expressed deep sorrow over Ambassador St

            • CathyInKs

              sorry posted before I finished. Stevens’ death. There was real emotion on the part of the Libyan president. Meanwhile our president is cavorting with celebrities and calling in to shows like the “The Pimp with a Limp”. I wonder how the families of these Americans who were murdered must feel – seeing and hearing about the brutal deaths of their loved ones and they might have been prevented and that the President honors their memories by campaigning and comparing his campaign workers to their loved ones sacrifices. And to make matters worse tries to lie his way out of this mess!

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      Don’t be nuts. Ambassador Stevens was not in charge of his security and could not dictate to Hillary what would be acceptable or unacceptable security.

      • Constance

        I don’t know why this question is nuts. Hillary can’t be everywhere all
        the time. Certainly, whoever is in charge of State Department security
        adjusts their procedures to particular circumstances. Certainly, the
        ambassador would have input, especially if he is an experienced
        knowledgeable expert and not just some political hack. And I also
        wonder if the State Department security collects its own intelligence or
        depends on the CIA, DIA, foreign assets, or whoever to give them a
        heads up on just what security procedures would be appropriate for
        whatever particular circumstances they are dealing with.

        • DianaLC

          Constance, LJ has just written about the practices that were in place when he actually worked in a similar situation. He has wide knowledge of these issues–from experience. The reports I’ve read all point to a PLAN to get him that was in place because of knowledge of the situation in Benghazi. There is also information that CIA secrets were compromised and stolen because they were there. I don’t care if Stevens may have felt safe. What I would do if I were his boss and if I knew there was information that could be compromised is TELL them what security needed to be in place. The buck stops with administration all the time.

          • Constance

            First of all, department heads of any bureaucracy rely on assistants and the rank and file to carry out detailed tasks. They have to have protocols and policies, but they also have to be flexible and they absolutely depend on accurate information from the field to do the coordination and mediation their jobs require….unless they are a general or a tyrant, then they can just shout a lot, pound their fists, and intimidate their underlings.

            Secondly, all of those pundits or “bots” or whatever you want to call them in my list claim and actually also have varying degrees of practical experience related to these matters..different I am sure from that of LJ, but relevant, nevertheless. But so much of the procedures etc related to security are a big secret, privileged, blah, blah, blah. So there is no way an average person can make a judgement about most of these matters, other than to try and apply a little common when possible. I say the buck stops or should stop with the voters and our representatives, the US Congress.

            Oh, and this is the prime political season. Hillary has one of the highest, if not the highest approval rating of active national politicians. She is a major asset for Obama. So go after Hillary.

            • DianaLC

              I was a delegate for Hillary during the ’08 primary from the precinct to the state level. I gave her lots of my hard-earned money. I didn NOT however, go over to Obama. I became a PUMA. And since then, I have always liked Hillary’s work in the State Dept. for USAID. However, on this I am still saying–this death in Benghazi is on her–and on her boss.
              It may be true that Stevens himself felt he was safe. It may be true what you say. But ultimately, when something like this happens, it is on the person at the top, especially where our top secret documents are concerned.
              You are absolutley right about the voters and their stupidity–here I do not see how our members in Congress could have stepped in, though the investigation into the security leaks from the WH should be front and center and should also have raised a red flag for security. Did no one think that O’s bragging about choosing his next drone target or about killing Osama would have been met with anger in those factions? Another reason NOT to let the ambassador drive around as if he were in Chicago. (I use that, as there IS danger in Chicago for any person.)
              IF…and it’s a big if….the detailed facts are ever reported, you will see how utterly devoid of sense it was to allow a trip to Benghazi with no security at this time–on the anniversary of 9/11.
              Don’t be naive.

              • CathyInKs

                Thanks Diana. Excellent response!

  • no_longer_a_democrat

    Lying, someone in this admin was lying? and no one in the MSM calls them out but peddles those lies over and over again?

    I’m so shocked!/s

  • JohnnyTwoDog

    I was stunned by the non-existent security. I am even more stunned at the actual “reporting” by NBC. How did that happen? I hope we can expect more.

    • KenoshaMarge

      Don’t hold your breath Johnny.

      Every now and then a member of the MSM commits and actual act of reporting but it never lasts long. They must scurry back to their real job of re-electing Obama. Informing the public? Not important.

      • elizabethrc

        Self-preservation is the only reason the occasional ‘reporter’ tells the truth. Even they can see the writing on the wall and when Romney is elected I expect to see many of these liberal media entities downsized. They have backed themselves into a corner with their blatant bias and outright lies. They will have been proved wrong on their prognostications about polls, what the public are believing, even what the public wants for this country. What’ s amazing to me is that it would appear that the media no longer want an honest, open society and lean more to strictures on our rights. This is strange because one of the first tenets of journalism is freedom of speech. Don’t they understand that Obama is taking them as well as us to a place where that won’t be possible? Guess not.

        • KenoshaMarge

          Most of the MSM has stopped being reporters and have become full-fledged press agents. For press agents the truth is incidental. Therefore the truth is not important to these scumbags who abuse their first amendment rights so often. I find them far more loathsome than any politician. Politicians lie for a living. All of them. Media is supposed to inform the public about who is lying and when. Instead the media now does the lying or simply lies by omission. Disgusting POS media betrays this country on a daily basis.

          • Darian Rachal

            To describe the media as “loathsome, disgusting, POS scumbags” is about the nicest thing that can be said about them, IMO.

            • KenoshaMarge

              It was as nice as I could express. What I think of them is far less restrained!

        • DianaLC

          You’re absolutely right about the “tenets of journalism.” I served as a high school newspaper adviser and had to teach those tenets of journalism in a free society. And since my state is one of the few that gives hs journalists the same rights as professional journalists, my reporters watched me have to be called to the principal’s office because of several stories they wrote—and I won each time. (In fact, in most cases, the stories broke news that later became a real issue with parents that the administration didn’t want out, and one was mirrored by the main city paper later when I was told that “talking about the issue” was a dangerous thing.
          I am very sick about what has become of American journalism.

  • kirkbride
    • FormerLiberal9

      thx for the link.

    • HObama HObamanana

      Here is the video so everyone can watch it right here.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=M86ndC4V7EQ#!

    • DianaLC

      Great link—I think it was O ‘Reilly who said last night that Romney needs to come out and make a big speech about his views of what’s happening now. This contains much information that he needs to get out somehow. It makes it clear that the media is trying to deflect from the abysmal failure of the Obama administration’s foreign policy.
      His bragging about killing Osama, his leaks about “getting” to choose which targets he shoulc send the drones after, no all his security leaks have helped to create a terrible situation–along with his “flower power” policy.
      I want the man out of office. I want CBS, ABC, NBC, and especially MSNBC reduced to tiny little entities–that goes for the NYT and several print publications.
      I am so hoping that I am correct about the silent but burning anger I am feeling from friends and family about what is happening because of the imposter in the WH.

      • Dissentispatriotic

        Hope your gut is right, too, Diana. The media are in overdrive to back up Barry and the polls are most discouraging. Romney has been all over the place recently and needs to get back to a basic message. There’s enough going on that should sink an Obama 2nd term but it doesn’t feel that anything will be wrapped up tightly enough to call them on it before the election.

        • binky354

          It’s hard going up against Obama and all the cable news stations and paper media; I’m not sure he can overcome the opposition. The cards are stacked against him. I wish he had the fire of Donald Trump and Newt Gingrich.

  • Theymustbemorons

    A courageous post, Larry. Wish I could see and hear you on the news instead of Susan Rice and the endless parade of snakes who continue to build the lie about this story.
    Larry, what do you think about the story from the President of Libya’s parliament, Mohamed al-Magariaf, who said the killings were the work of “foreigners” who entered Libya a few months ago and were, he said, planning this all along?
    Link:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/16/libyan-president-magariaf-military-action?newsfeed=true
    Also, your post sent me looking for the story of how Susan Rice tangled with Hillary Clinton during the 2008 campaign. I came across this opinion piece which was posted on the fox news site in February 2012, calling for Rice’s resignation and also bringing up the bad blood between Rice and Clinton from 2008. Do you think Rice wants to be the next SOS?
    Link:
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/02/08/its-time-for-susan-rice-to-resign/

    What a disgusting cast of characters we have at the top of our government. I believe they will do anything, say anything, to remain in power. And what a disgusting “free press” we now have. To find any other info that disagrees with the party line, one must turn to fox news or a foreign newspaper. Edward Murrow is spinning in his grave. I don’t know about the foreign newspapers, but at this point it’s very clear that fox news is also mixing in large doses of manure with the “truth.”

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      I think the story about foreigners entering Libya is correct.

      • Theymustbemorons

        Thanks for the reply!

        • TeakWoodKite

          Magariaf also confirmed reports from Washington that US officials intercepted communications discussing the planned attack on the US consulate in Benghazi, which he said linked al-Qaida in the Maghreb to an Islamist brigade, Ansar al-Sharia. “Yes, that happened,” he said.

          I am reading this correctly, that the US had “actionable” E-lint BEFORE the attack? And Rice, Hillary and “the buck never stops here” Obama is out there using the youtube clip to hide behind and not admit they F’ed up?

  • HELENK2

    I am very worried about this country
    we have a president who trashes the Constitution when ever he can.
    Thinks congress is just there for the HAHAs
    from his actions this last week would not protect the country.

    we have a media
    that would stand and lie and cover up for this man
    does not put the good of the country first
    spits on the freedom of the press everytime they fail to tell the truth about just what is happening in the world right now

    this is something new for me. I was lucky enough to live in the time when America was considered the best country in the world to live in. The people had freedoms and were proud to be American. We had journalist not stenos

    • skep247

      I, too, remember the good ol’ days. I’m afraid we will never experience them again, and I don’t hold out much hope that my younger family members will either. That does not mean I’m giving up the fight though! May God help America.

    • HELENK2

      you before backtrack, it never even occurred to me that a president of the USA would not do the best they could and be loyal to the country.
      I was a democrat until 2008, so was not real fond of republican presidents, but I never doubted their loyalty to this country.

      • Sharon Long

        HelenK2..just change the name and it would be me.
        I too was a democrat until 2008 (48 years) and also not fond of republican presidents but also never doubted their loyalty. For the first time in my life and I afraid of the future.

        • CathyInKs

          Ditto for me too! But a dem for 40 years up until 2008.

          • KenoshaMarge

            Same here. I am hanging my head in shame.
            At that point in time I thought that John Bolton was the worst Ambassador to the U.N. we could have. Live and learn.

    • DianaLC

      I try every day to get some respite from this horrible news–foreign and domestic. But, since i live in a swing state, I am being bombarded through my t.v. screen by whining women who are sure the terrible Mitt is going to hurt them by taking away their “basic healthcare” and making sure they will no linger belong to the middle class because he will give gazillionaires tax breaks.
      What bothers me is that I turn to channels that are NOT the news chanels to try to get this rest. His campaign is absolutely right, then, about people who will vote for him—those who never watch the news.
      I want this torture to be over.

      • CathyInKs

        If Obama gets 4 more years, basic healthcare will be the least of these women’s problems. Free birth control and abortions won’t mean much if they can’t afford to put food on the table and gas in their cars.

      • KenoshaMarge

        Another swing stater being tortured by ad bombardment. I feel, and share, your pain.

        Does anyone ever make up their mind who to vote for based on some ad? Are people really that gullible? Wait, they elected Obama. Never mind.

        • HoosierinDixie

          Bad news for you Marge. I just heard this morning from a friend in Wisconsin that OFA just bought more air time in your state. I guess they are not convinced by the Marquette University Poll giving him a 16 point lead either.

          • KenoshaMarge

            We have been bombarded with so many ads here in Wisconsin since 2010 that most of us can get from zero to mute in 1 second flat.

            Yeah, that bogus Marquette poll is supposed to make anti-Obama voters quiver with despair. And stay home on November 6th. Too bad we’ve learned better than to trust media or polls here.

            We aren’t as dumb as their supporters are. We know that Obama wouldn’t be spending money here, where he didn’t believe he would need to, if he thought is wasn’t too damn close to call.

  • http://www.theindependentview.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

    Obama doesn’t take anything seriously. Especially where it conflicts with his worldview that Islam is his friend. He seems to forget that it does not like Americans, Obama or not.

    • JohnnyTwoDog

      He does not forget it. He agrees with it.

  • tushdi

    Correct me if I’m wrong:

    The islamists are pissed off and rioting against all the Western values the liberals claim to be for:

    Free Speech
    Women’s Rights
    Gay Rights
    Abortion On Demand
    Freedom of Religion/Freedom from Religion

    All of these things that liberals claim to hold so dear….these are the very things that the islamist rioters want to put an end to thus the demand for the death of the film maker.

    But on second thought, maybe the so called liberals reason for acquiescing to so many of the above Islamic beliefs is because they think by acquiescing the Islamists will coexist in peace with them? What Obama expounded in Cairo in other words.

    So if Obama hold theses Western values so dear why did he call for the arrest the film maker and condemn the film instead of standing up for free speech as Romney advised. How’s that idea working out now? The Middle East is on fire burning our Embassies and murdering our staff and what does Obama do? Reward the rioters by arresting the film maker and condemning his film.

    Question is if Obama is so willing to bow to the demands of the Islamic rioters now, just how far will he go to void all of our dearly held Western values when he is under an even greater threat?

  • UnasinousOrotund57