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Prince Romney of the Middle Class [Update]


John Batchelor’s response to any unhappy with his remarks about Romney’s speech: “Whatever Romney is or wants to be, it is not the determinant of the election. Obama and the economy are the question before us. Romney is a stand in for NOT POTUS.”
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Bronwyn’s Note: You may not like his thoughts about Romney’s remarks — and portions of Romney’s remarks were omitted, I hear — but John has a point. Why? My two cents: To get rid of free-loaders, hire enough inspectors to find out who legitimately needs assistance. But verifying status requires many man-hours and real proof. Reward and protect whistleblowers. Social service budgets often get cut before other agencies so there aren’t enough inspectors. Batchelor again: John follows with the coal miners of Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Ohio and Kentucky.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and wife Ann Romney jet ski on Lake Winnipesaukee in Wolfeboro, N.H., earlier this summer. Charles Dharapak/AP/File (John Batchelor blog – click image to visit blog)

The class warfare themes of the OFA [Obama For America] moves the SuperPac Priorities USA to use the now infamous secret Romney video from May as an appeal to the middle class voters to protect their interests and stay the course with POTUS. This is a surprising interpretation to my thinking.

The “middle class” is a marketing concept, not an actual group of American who can be found on a list of lists. It seems useful to mention that the idea of the middle class dates from the 18th century as a general tool to make a distinction between the insufferable upper class and the inedible lower class; however, the early 20th century definition of the middle class as professionals who possess human capital, that is brain power and educated skills, is most appropriate here in the 21st century.

OFA asserts that Mitt Romney is no friend to the middle class: “If Mitt Romney wins, the middle class loses.” This conditional threat is a let-down from the build-up of Mitt Romney’s sniffy arrogance at the Boca Raton fundraiser that 47% of the population are victims, dependent losers, helpless, irrelevant parasites, proles, etcetera mob.

Gee, Mitt, do you think there is another way of speaking about human beings who were not born as a prince of princes like you?

[Text continues below video]

World of Romney.

The only excuse for this sort of rubbish from Romney is that it is an attitude so uniform in elitist America that no one even notices the cruelty in it. Or perhaps they notice and figure Romney is just saying that to pander for cash?

Or perhaps the political class all believe it, and when you go to fund-raisers you expect to hear the pol disdain the mob? Or perhaps the American monied sharpies retain a smug distrust of democracy as regarded by our well born and well to do founding fathers? Is the American demos the villain in the World of Romney? Unknown.

This is a campaign, not a philosophy class or something credible like the chapter of a novel, “The Way We Live Now & Again.”

OFA [Obama For America] and the Priorities team are pitching the Romney remarks in the most general direction. Who cares about the middle class? Not the middle class. We care about us, who live here, who work in this economy, who own this threatened mortgage (along with the banks too big to fail and the nationalized Mother Mortgage, Fannie Mae).

In sum, I am unconvinced that the Obama campaign knows how to exploit the class warfare game other than to lob out these mud balls that Mitt Romney is a pompous and uninteresting rich guy.

We are going to vote for Candidate Obama because Prince Romney of the Middle Class is not actually of the middle class? Because Obama, himself a self-elected prince of the Middle Class, says that he likes the middle class more than Mitt Romney says he likes the middle class? Puzzle?

Coal Country.

In contrast to the OFA/Priorities generalities, the Romney video on coal country (below) appears focused on exactly the voter that will help the Electoral College count in the states of PA, WVA, OH, KY. Grandpa Miner does not think of himself as “middle class.” Grandpa Miner understands exactly who he is, and what he wants, and what matters in an election; and he will choose not because of what Mitt Romney is, an faux upper-class twit, but because of what coal country wants.

A coal miner cheers as Republican presidential candidate, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney speaks during a campaign event at the American Energy Corporation, Tuesday, Aug. 14, 2012, in Beallsville, Ohio. Photo: Mary Altaffer / AP (John Batchelors Blog – Click to Visit)

  • Andy_Lewis

    Shorter John Batchelor: “Phuque the middle class.” My response: “No, phuque YOU, John – sideways.”

  • akaPatience

    Well, count me among the many who have a hard time deciphering Batchelor’s prose. Since he’s had a successful career in radio I can only assume his points are more lucid when they’re verbal and not written.

  • TeakWoodKite

    What update?
    Of course it’s a judgement about the ass clown over Motel 1600. As much as Barry wants it to be about someelses tax return (see the Chicago way) making the judgement about Barry’s clueless incompetence is what this is all about. No escaping that Hokey-Pokey. The fact that Obama is only capable of being a 4th rate con artist and a laughing stock in every major capital on the planet makes this about him. Obama wouldn’t have it any other way. He couldn’t wait to say Holder is my “clean” bitch and the American citzens his Hoe’s. Well BO can respectfully shove it up his JZ.
    Romney, is a capable person. Obama is not. Romney has a record of public service, Barry thinks agitating poor folk is the same thing. Wrong! Screw the jet skis, I am more concerned about the gold plated champain bottles and the cost to the broke ass American taxpayer his clueless ass just rang up, I want to know who the ass hat really is at the back of the Motel1600 bus preaching lies!
    The cretin is telling us that the death of a representive of our government and his comrades was a “spontanous” murder instead of the planned one, when Obama, personally, was warned it would be planned, and Obamasaying “it ain’t about him” is frankly an insult and damages the office and credibility of POTUS.
    Remember this. In the hard cold Chicago winter, Obama who was responsible for the well being of his constituents, left them freezing thier asses off in a Rezko tenement, and not only did NOT protect their interests, he represented Rezko in court and got him off with a 50 dollar fine, then bought a house with Rezko with funds from Auchi while Michelle was jamming up the Wolfords at the Historic Society review board until her asking price was met?
    Tough choice. A self described selfish “bone head” or a man possesing noble intent who has made a good accounting of himself. Mr. Batchelor’s poking a stick at Romney is not going to change the outcome.
    You think this not about Soetoro?
    “We hold these truths to be self evident”

  • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

    Hey John, for all your elitist rant against Romney, what about that $35 million home Obama is/has reportedly bought in Hawaii?

    • TeakWoodKite

      love to see the paper trail on that one. You think Nesbit did the leg work?

  • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan
    • TeakWoodKite

      Bravo.

  • Hokma

    OT

    No sooner does Romney release his ’11 tax returns than the left wing loons try to make it an issue.

    This is one of the more idiotic pieces in The Atlantic:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/mitt-romneys-tax-returns-6-key-questions-about-the-politics/262699/

    It seems that one issue they have is that they find it unethical for Romney NOT to deduct all of his charitable contributions.

    How does one give a responsible answer to such an ignorant remark?

    • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      Not really OT. I suspect from what Batchelor wrote here, he’d fault Romney too. Next, they all start up about all of the other tax returns. Will it make them feel better to see that Romney likely has given the same amount, maybe even more, year-to-year like forever? What then? I think this a envy-driven loser’s argument to keep demanding tax returns.

      Now, how about school records, citizenship and adoption papers, etc.? I still think Romney should throw the offer out on the table: I’ll give you the tax returns if Obama releases his school records, etc. What would they say then?

      • Hokma

        He is too much of a gentleman and that is a problem against a lowlife like Obama.

      • TeakWoodKite

        I wish to see his application papers for the state bar of Illnois. I would like to see his filings for changing his name to “Barak Obama” from baby Soetoro with a pendent around his neck. I want to see the financial documents for the subway deal in Chicago. I want to see the papers that were wisked away from a the library in Chicago to be reclaimed by the Annenburg Foundation. I want to see the interview that the Chicago police conducted regarding the death of his chior director at the TUCC, Donald Young. I want to see his testimony to the US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald regarding his involvement with Rezko. Obama is anything but camera shy and the not type to hang out in an alleyway in Harlem, in the middle of the night ,waiting for his friend to wake up and let him in. Anyone who flys in from California on a red eye knows, by the time all is said and done you roll into NYC at 3:00am… (there’s that phone call again) In Barry’s case, the only phone call made was to his friend Bill Ayers at 03:00am askin’ to buzzed in. Screw waiting in an alleyway in a city your not familar with in the dead of night on that street. It doesn’t matter what color one was on that street back then. Beside’s can you imagine what an idiot BO is if he can’t even time his arrival accordingly…Sitting in an alley with your suitcases….what rubbish. Any fool would hole up at a watering hole, till day break ,over on Broadway if that was the case.

      • HObama HObamanana

        As to your last points I disagree. Mitt did what he said he would do and he should leave it at that. If he were to make the requests you propose the media would start calling him a birther and all that nonsense signaling even more distractions. However… if Obama brings it up during the debate all bets are off and no holds barred.

        • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

          You are correct. Best to let Obama raise the issue. He’s arrogant enough he may do just that.
          And those debates, wish there was more than a couple and wish they were not all liberal and pro-Obama and pro-Democratic hosts. It is as bad as Gwen Awful moderating a debate in 2008 while writing a publishing a book on the historic nature of Obama anticipated win.

      • akaPatience

        I don’t agree with the school records tactic. People are more worried about their ability to survive in this economy that O made worse due to his bad policy decisions.

        • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

          Your probably right. It is just that there is a lot of unfinished business from 2008 that Obama got away with, including trashing Hillary. It’ll all come out eventually, just too late to hold Obama and the Democratic party accountable.

          • TeakWoodKite

            We know all we need to know about it. That’s what Obama /Axelgrease want.
            There are other ways for Romney to show the voters heas a proven track record in buisness and as a governor with out taking the bait and letting Obama run out the clock with trivial distractions….

        • binky354

          @akaPatience – well one school record has been cleared up. Obama did attend Columbia. You’ll need to enlarge it, I don’t know how.

          • akaPatience

            What a riot! It feels so good to laugh – thanks binky!

    • HObama HObamanana

      Point 2 is amusing. It was obviously not a Friday news dump yet the author intends to make it appear as if that was Romney’s intention and he screwed up.

      Point 5 about the Buffet Rule is equally as amusing. It seems the media has a difficult time reminding citizens that Buffet has been fighting the government for about a decade because he owes about $1 Billion in taxes.

  • BronwynsHarbor

    I’m going to relax for a while. None of you seems to realize that, sadly, most Americans think everyone’s on the dole or a loser who doesn’t deserve help, so this will GET ROMNEY VOTES.

    And everyone is ignoring both John’s part about the miners and the UPDATE with John’s note to me that I shared with you.

    He is a nationally syndicated four-hour/day — seven days a week radio host at WABC, the anchor station in NEW YORK CITY. And John has seen the good and the bad (and sad) in life. His wife is a minister … and she tells him stories too. He is a highly moral and ethical man. We should all aspire to be as literate, as informed, and as deeply moral as John is.

    • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

      Just because someone is a radio host doesn’t mean we should defer to their opinion. As for the “update” – as I commented down below, the update was also a bit convoluted – I do NOT understand his point.

      As to why we are ignoring the “part about the miners” – seriously…the article is written so poorly I did not have the patience to get that far. Maybe being a super special nationally syndicated 4-hour radio host means you don’t have time to edit what you write to make it coherent or make sense. That still doesn’t mean I need to slog through the pretentious verbiage just to try to understand someone I don’t seem to agree with on some pretty big issues.

      His talent appears to be in radio, not writing. Next time, work with him to edit his pieces and maybe we’ll respond more favorably to him.

    • beachnan

      Bronwyns-I don’t think you are giving us-your fellow patriots here enough credit. In fact, I don’t think you are giving most Americans enough credit. We do care about our fellow man. We are glad there is a system in place that helps people who have had misfortune in their lives and now required help. We are compassionate people. The problem is many on the left, believe that they are the only ones with compassion. Having said that, there are huge problems in America with people taking advantage of the system. Many people are capable of work, but think “why should go to work if the government is willing to take of me.” These are the people we are talking about. When someone like Batchelor takes an edited comment that Romney was making to fund raisers and makes that a story about how Romney feels about the disabled, veterans, retirees, etc., that is disingenuous. Look at the man’s involvement in his church, look at his involvement in charities, look at this involvement in helping people (as witnessed at the Republican Convention). It seems as if his life is about helping others less fortunate than him. He doesn’t need to run for President. I don’t think it is about ego with him. He has a extraordinary record of achievement, of turning things around, whether it is the Olympics, failing companies, or the state of Massachusettes. I believe he is running because he believes that he can turn around the direction of the Country. We need Romney and I pray he is elected.

      • BronwynsHarbor

        Got it the first time … hey I can changed outfits and erase this is it’s a duplicate … oh heck, let it stay up! It is worth reading TWICE!

    • beachnan

      Bronwyn-I think you are giving most Americans too little credit. I think most feel that there should be a safey net for people who are less fortunate than they. If someone is too ill to work, I think most people are happy there is a system in place that will help and not just because it could happen to them someday, but because we are a compassionate people. Part of the problem is that too many take advantage of the system. Everyone seems to know of someone who has abused the system. Because we have witnessed it personally, doesn’t mean that we all want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, we just want to see changes to the system to try and stop the abuse. Obama is making it too easy to get welfare and food stamps. I want to see a President Romney that will make the changes necessary to improve the system. Those that can work-should, and those that can’t-we will continue to have safety net for them.

      • BronwynsHarbor

        You are correct. And thank you for reminding me…. I was upset at the moment. I took a nap and am a new me now! Well, I hope so :)

    • shelldoll2

      I spent most of my life in the church since I was small. Some things I learned:

      1. Going to church alone does not confer sainthood.

      2. Being a minister does not confer sainthood. I’ve seen many come and go.

      3. The real saints are people who do good without fanfare or thoughts of thanks. Like the widow’s mite.

      4. Mitt Romney has person after person telling stories of how he helped them because he won’t.

      This isn’t about John or his wife. It’s about how he apparently sees Romney as some sort of rich prince with disdain for the average American.

      The Obama’s have been living “in your face rich”. Lavish vacations, entourages, designer clothes, and private schools.
      Playing golf and campaigning a day after a loyal American Ambassador and his co-workers
      were brutally murdered.

      That’s far more insensitivity than any Romney may have shown.

      • TeakWoodKite

        Only lifelong acts of kindness and paying it forward will confer that. Self-sacrifice is not in Obama’s play book.

      • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

        This is one of many points where we have some really clear differences between Obama and Romney. I seriously doubt Romney has a elitist bone in his body. It is not part of his makeup and no amount of trash talking Romney will change this basic fact. Nor, does it do anything but show how unworthy Obama is in comparison.

      • HObama HObamanana

        The way I see it, Mitt believes that those that are able should have to earn a living. He isn’t saying that people should just be cast off without assistance. What he is saying is that he believes in creating a society where people are able to prosper. Once that is accomplished, those that refuse to work to achieve that will be left to fend for themselves.

        Quite honestly I don’t see why I should have to pay for an adult’s contraception or to pay to support their children because they are irresponsible with their sex lives.

      • BronwynsHarbor

        RIGHT YOU ARE ABOUT MITT … I wish he would make those stories into TV ads! He must let the ad men humanize him! God, I forgot about that … surely YouTube has videos of those. Let’s post them this weekend. And kick me if I forget. But I’m putting it in my note by my laptop this second. If I can find my notepad! … I actually treated myself to a notepad bought AT STAPLES in honor of Mitt — I doubt $1 will make a difference, but I worry about that store since it is always empty … about as many customers as clerks. I hope they make most sales to businesses, if they survive. And they ARE the best place — the ONLY place — to get ink cartridges, better quality mice (WalMart’s suck– and their keyboards are worse). Oh, I bought a nice pen that I can actually write with so people (and I) can read my handwriting.

        And I bought one big notebook because I am making notes for a secret idea I have for a book or a … i don’t know .,. just hope I do it. But I was already writing it on the ferry home yesterday since I forget my ideas if I don’t write them down the second I get them. It’s a really nice notebook — sturdy, will not fall apart, paper can be torn off easily, etc.

        I just wish his ad men had video of Mitt stocking shelves at that Staples where he first visited when it was in its infancy as a company and is now nationwide! Surely someone took video … oh probably not, knowing MITT ROMNEY.

    • HObama HObamanana

      Concerning the miners, Romney has been out front on this issue for quite some time. Obama doesn’t have a leg to stand on because he made it very clear before he became President that he wanted to put coal fired power plants out of business. Even he can’t scrub those videos out of existence.

  • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

    Batchelor’s update ““Whatever Romney is or wants to be, it is not the determinant of the election. Obama and the economy are the question before us. Romney is a stand in for NOT POTUS.” is just as bad, in my opinion, as his original article. What batchelor does furtehr clarify is that he does not like Romny. From his writing, I suspect Batchelor will, in the privacy of the voting booth, vote for Obama.
    Disdain for Romney, especially misplaced, is a poor reason to vote for Obama.

    • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

      Even the update is a bit convoluted and difficult to parse.

    • HoosierinDixie

      I agree Matthew. His update is just adding insult to injury. I am not voting for Romney because he is NOT POTUS. I am voting for him because I think he is exactly what this country needs to right our economy. From now on I will consider Batchelor’s post as I do Lola’s ranting……Not worth the paper it is printed on or my time to read it.

    • HObama HObamanana

      I don’t care much for his response either. But he is entitled to his opinion and if that opinion includes the belief that those of us supporting Romney are merely doing so because he isn’t Obama then he hasn’t spent much times reading our comments. I HAVE NEVER BEEN Anyone But Obama. I did not support a single one of the other candidates running for the nomination. Not once.

      • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

        Absolutely. Diverse opinions are always welcome. Especially if they are well reasoned and meaningful. In this case, though, I find the ‘Prince Romney’ routine incredibly offensive.

        • HObama HObamanana

          I find grouping everyone into a neat little category rather narrow-minded, almost liberal. I supported Mitt Romney for President before he even announced during the primary season. I like the guy.

          • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

            If we’re honest, almost no one fits into neat little boxes.

    • beachnan

      I went back and reread what John had written, plus his new comments and came away with a slightly different take on it this time. I believe by John’s first commeting that he was saying that Obama was trying to prove that he is of the middle class of Romney isn’t and they he isn’t really proving his point. Second comment by John, imho, i that the election is about Obama and the economy, and not really Romney. In other words, this election will be a referandum about Obama. I didn’t like the Princely comments about Romney, but now that I have rearead, I think I understand what John is trying to say.

      • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

        I’ve reread it too many times already myself. I can’t get past the incoherent bias against Romney, the insinuation of elitism, and twisted envy of hard work, success, and wealth. This thinly veiled hate and bigotry is no different than if others start judging Obama or Romney by race, ethnicity, or religion. As bad, it shows the hipocrisy of it all as they too often refuse to use the same measures evenly upon everyone.

  • binky354

    This may have been posted already; if so, please give me a pass on bad memory. But, I just listened to the two missing minutes of the tape which Glenn Beck aired. Here’s the rest of the story:

    http://radiopatriot.wordpress.com/2012/09/20/the-part-of-romneys-tape-the-media-isnt-playing/

  • http://twitter.com/Coltbere Steven

    Romney is the Republican nominee. Unfortunately for the DNC, their guy chose to run again for no apparent reason. As an incumbent , he has shot away both feet and half of both legs IF Bush the Senior shot himself in the foot with “Read My Lips, No new Texas!” then buying that 2 will get-you-one tax cut lie from Democrats, hook, line, cork, reel, and casting rod. It COULD be argued that he was suckered and the pledge tossed out because Bush was lied to and he believed them because DNC had been so Boy Scout verifiebly truthful in the past. Maybe in 1792? Crats lied,schemed,and lynched all thru the 1870s, then were angels after that. So no reason for Bush to think otherwise…ONE mistake…shining like a tug boat carbon light on a black night. Kind of like OBAMA–ONE BIG A******* MISTAKE AMERICA!

  • skep247

    The media failed to play the rest of Romney’s recorded speech. He addressed the Federal Reserve and our debt. Ron Paul’s supporters should really like this.
    http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/09/20/the-section-of-mitt-romneys-gaffe-tape-you-havent-heard/

  • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

    Pardon me, but I find this entire article to be incoherent and, in John Batchelor’s words “rubbish”. As much as I try, the article makes no sense–is John envious of wealth? Is he opposed to self-made people? Is he in the closet about opposition to Romney and actually supports Obama? What is he trying to say?

    Tagging Romney as Prince Romney is patently offensive and by all accounts entirely baseless. If used, it’d better fit Obama as he fashions himself as the next Kennedy (thought I don’t think the Kennedy’s are much on speaking terms with Obama any longer–and the Obama’s have not been invited back to visit the Kennedy’s.

    Now, that the Romney’s have a jet ski, or Kerry before him go sail boarding, does not make them elitist and out of touch. You want that, just go look at the infamous Kennedy clan. At least Romney worked hard to earn his success while the Kennedy’s inherited theirs and by all evidence most have never worked a single day in their lives.

    All-in-all, I read this article as an incredibly poorly written hit piece on Romney. John Batchelor betrays his bias when he bemoans the inability of Democrats to destroy Romney for his success when he wrote “In sum, I am unconvinced that the Obama campaign knows how to exploit the class warfare game other than to lob out these mud balls that Mitt Romney is a pompous and uninteresting rich guy.” Try as he might, Batchelor fails as well.

    • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

      I agree with you…the article is quite incoherent. A good editor is needed here. I was trying to figure out what the point was and then just gave up.

      Note to John: Quit trying to sound smart at the expense of clarity. Some of the best writing is simple, straightforward, and clear.

    • HObama HObamanana

      I see it as jumping on the Democrat defined meaning of Romney’s comments because they make conservatives look like evil people. But of course that has been the Democrat meme plan from the start. It’s playing it safe and seeking cover rather than sticking up for the truth.

    • antielitist

      Agreed. Bachelor’s writing is, as usual, all over the friggin map. The conclusion seems to be that MR should win as the anti-POTUS but for no other reason. Very weird article.

      About the jet ski – what an absurd fixation. Having lived in NYC and now living in the rural mountains I think the people writing this sh!t have never been anywhere not surrounded by concrete and skyscrapers.

      I’d say at least 50% of the people here – many of whom barely approach middle class – have either a jet ski, a snowmobile, an ATV, a boat, a dirtbike, or a motorcycle. Some have more than one recreational vehicle. It’s what people do for fun and it’s where their extra money goes. Big f**king deal. They also tend to own pick up trucks with snow plows rigged on the front, a shotgun or two, maybe some light construction and/or repairman equipment to take care of home emergencies, a generator, perhaps a log splitter.

      Bachelor is an idiot.

  • HELENK2
    • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      Good, they can fall together.

  • HARP2

    Mitt Romney makes a comment about how 47% of Americans are “dependent” on government handouts, and the media is outraged that he would tell the truth.

    Strip
    away the Obama myth, and what are you left with? You are left with a
    man who is nothing more than an illusion. There never was and never
    will be a Barack Obama, because he is not real.
    The
    man reading from the teleprompter is nothing more than the sum total of
    the audacious hopes and dreams of delusional progressives — touted
    endlessly by a submissive press.

    A
    defeat for Barack is a defeat for them. No longer will they be the
    exalted press — the arbiter of truth and justice. After the debacle
    that is Barack Obama, they will be seen for what they are: publicity
    agents for progressivism.
    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/the_audacity_of_these_dopes.html#ixzz278GLqpsd

    • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      Agreed.

    • HObama HObamanana

      You are left with a man who is nothing more than an illusion. There never was and never will be a Barack Obama, because he is not real. The man reading from the teleprompter is nothing more than the sum total of the audacious hopes and dreams of delusional progressives — touted endlessly by a submissive press.

      And anyone that has actually listened to Obama before he became President would know that he has said this himself. I’m pretty sure it’s in one of those fictions he Bill Ayers wrote.

    • akaPatience

      You said a mouthful Harp! I’m disgusted with the manipulative media elites. They live in a champagne bubble.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dawn.bushey.3 Dawn Bushey

    few Presidential candidates had more money than Bobby Kennedy, few spoke more eloquently on behalf of the poor in this country. Its just another hypocracy on the left. Their heroes Kennedy’s, Roosevelts, Kerry can be wealthy AND understand the plight of the downtrodden. Republicans even those that are self made can’t possibly.

    • Theymustbemorons

      Good point.

    • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      They may have spoken elequently but that doesn’t mean they acted on their beliefs, especially with their own money. To suggest that Republicans cannot hear the cry of those in need is baseless. Take Romney, he doesn’t need to wear ‘helping the poor’ on his shoulder and use it to gain votes. No, Romney, like many other Americans, both Democrat AND Republican do it quietly and without expectation of a pat on the back or election to office.

      • elizabethrc

        Re Romney’s 2011 tax return: 30% to charity. Let’s see how Democrats find a way to slam that! How much does Obama give to charity?

        • getfitnow

          Mitt gives $4 million to
          strangers.

          Obama’s brother lives in a hut.

          ‘Nuf said.

    • shelldoll2

      Exactly Dawn. Bobby Kennedy made a point of going to some of the poorest areas of the country and asking the people there “What do you need ?”

      At one point Bobby wept and said “This isn’t America”.

      Wealth does not automatically mean lack of compassion.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Bobby Kennedy was a great man. He actually believed what he said. And it was at his urging that his brother John embraced the Civil Rights movement.

  • HELENK2
    • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      A cheer for Romney in this!

    • HObama HObamanana

      That needs to go nationwide, non-stop.

  • elizabethrc

    Romney was not born into great wealth. His father was poor and worked his way up. Batchelor seems to resent this for some reason and chooses to paint Romney with a wide brush without any paint in it.

    • BronwynsHarbor

      Chill. John is simply aware that there are REAL PEOPLE out there who would not have a roof over their heads or a stove to cook the pitiful amount of food a single person can buy with food stamps without assistance.

      By the way, i forgot to say — in my “rant” above — that this is the FIRST month in which I finally got over $100/month in food stamps. I just didn’t get them — because I got too much money per month (even though it all went to rent and Medicare and electricity).

      But, by calling and calling and calling and waiting on line forever, I finally talked to a human being and — lo and behold — they believed me and set up the food stamps, but I had to wait a month — until September 8th precisely — to buy the food. I used most of it at Costco because I can buy in bulk and that will last me for months. (But not coffee, tea, cleaning products, toilet paper … which I use as little as possible, but always get at Costco because that $55/year membership has already paid for itself at least twice since June … when I had to get a roommate so that I could buy food and pay the electric bill / because of the $170/month for Medicare +++ the increases in the prices of Medicare’s other insurance requirements + prescription drugs + OTC drugs, etc.)

      Yeah, I am a bum alright.

      • BronwynsHarbor

        By the way: The person who took my info already has me on file, and so my description of my need for food stamps was in her computer. She did not just give me food stamps without checking on me first. And I got follow-up paperwork to confirm that.

        But I get no cash or Medicaid … maybe in two or three years, when Obamacare kicks in, I’ll get Medicaid, but — even though Medicare costs me $400+ per months (drugs included) — I will REALLY be stuck with my GP who doesn’t know much. No surgeon — left in Seattle — will take me unless they are part of a large group practice (and even then most surgeons do not take Medicaid).

      • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

        BronwynsHarbor, I take personal offense to John Batchelor’s hit piece here on Romney and his dispise of success and wealth.

        I started with nothing myself. We were on food stamps, got reduced lunches, etc. Worked and paid my own way through college. No one gave me anything. I have my share of success and failure, at times it seems like more of the latter. I definitely do not wave either in front of people. I do not criticize anyone for their success and what they do with it. That is not the American way.

        Besides, Romney is an especially undeserving candidate for Batchelor’s and the Democrat’s wrath as he gives a far larger share of his income to charity than I would ever consider doing. Plus, he gives his time. In all of this he’s a really remarkable person.

        Batchelor is off-base, shame on him.

        • Garookie

          If you noticed the timing of the release of the Romney tape, it coincided with the Obama admins screw up in Lybia. Don’t you think that it’s too much of a coincidence?
          What the MSM (and Batchelor) should be talking about is th the BLOOD OF FOUR AMERICANS on Obama;s hands.
          He was the one who went fund-raising instead of attending and overseeing national security matters, which could have saved their lives. Their families and America need some answers from Obama as to why he neglected his responsibilities.

          • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

            Yes, that is a sobering aspect to the events of the past two weeks. Obama failed the country when he opted for fundraising in Las Vegas while our embassies burned. Every day since he’s continued down the same path–blaming Romney, apologizing for America, and practically dismissing the dead Americans, including his own ambassador as if they meant nothing. We’ve seen the black flag of Islam flying over our embassies and, Obama, he ignores it all to go campaigning.

      • binky354

        Some people seem to be able to get assistance quicker than you seem to have been able to get it. Maybe it’s the area of the country.

      • elizabethrc

        Nowhere did I castigate people who need food stamps nor the other assistance necessary for survival.
        My comment was solely direct at Batchelor’s seeming disdain for Romney having reaped the benefits of his hard and successful work.
        Romney is correct in chastising the ‘moochers’ who make a profession of living off the public dole. For instance, the single mother who has 9 children and received some $144,000 a year (plus food stamps and other benefits). Small wonder that she doesn’t work. She’s got a sweet deal there. Too bad it’s the taxpayers who are providing for her.

        • binky354

          Sweet deal for sure. I know people who are raising children on far less, but then they work for a living.

        • beachnan

          I agree Elizabeth. There are good and decent people who need assistance. Everyone understands that and people do not resent those people. However, many of us, know of people, who are on the public dole, because they are lazy, and because they can. I have two cousins who have been getting help from the government, since the time they both had children out of wedlock at the age of 16. They both received for years section 8 housing and food stamps. It’s embarassing to the rest of our family of hard workers. One of them has never worked and currently has a man living with her, who owns 3 houses in town. The other is also living with a man, who has a job, and deals drugs on the side. These are the type of people Romney is talking about. These are the people who made a choice to take and keep taking, when they didn’t need to and I pray to God, Romney is elected and changes the system, so that these people cannot continue their lazy lifestyle.

      • antielitist

        Sorry bronwyn. I appreciate your work on this site and I feel for your difficult situation but Batchelor’s article and premise are ridiculous.

  • HELENK2

    When did the American dream die? most people want to end up better than they started out. Seeing someone “make it” is not a bad thing. Glad for them, happy that I live in a country where it can happen.

    • Theymustbemorons

      Yes! Yes! Yes!

    • BronwynsHarbor

      It IS a great thing. But not all of us are cut out to make it big. I am one such person. I am very shy and timid in real life, and got so darn nervous in interviews, I blew several … and then when my back problems became VERY obvious, in my 50s, nobody wanted to hire me because the pitiful amount of health insurance they got for their employees meant that their premiums would sky-rocket. I have stories about that … but won’t go there .., besides, finally, after working one job for $700/month (and my mom had to help me make it) … my heart sank and I forced myself to walk into the state’s help office …. where I had to stand in line no matter how much my back was killing me. I was so obviously disabled that the doctor’s report was a formality … then the State got rid of me as fast as they could — putting me on the fast track to federal help altho I got NO health insurance of any kind for two years, no food stamps, no cash, no help with telephone/internet service — none of the things that truly disabled people (like me) get IF and ONLY IF they are on state aid.

      • binky354

        Bronywyns – you’re right. Not everyone of us is cut out to make it big. I wasn’t and neither was my husband. We were very satisfied with our station, if you will, in life. We never strived to be wealthy, just wanted to be comfortable in our old age. And, we never envied those who had more, never thought we had to keep up with the Joneses. My husband was the breadwinner and I taught school (before there was big bucks in teaching) and when we moved to a new place, I volunteered to help others, not worrying about the lack of a paycheck on my part. We were fortunate, because we always had work of some sort. So did my parents. This class envy makes me sick. Half the people that envy couldn’t make it big if someone gifted them their initial stake to make their start. I said half, it might be more. You have to have an idea, a dream, and the perseverance to make it work.

    • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      Envy is a bad thing. It leads to theft–whether by taxes, theft, or looting. We have fallen as a nation, Batchelor, today’s Democrats, and the media are to blame. We are not the same nation as we were during the Depression.

    • elizabethrc

      It didn’t die. That would have been terms a suicide. It was kicked to death by Obama, and that would be called murder.

      • getfitnow

        I think it still has a weak pulse. Needs a little resuscitation. A new POTUS will help to create the right environment.

  • HELENK2

    backtrack declared WAR ON COAL. he is destroying the way of life for many. close the mines, take away the jobs, then what?? what replaces their way to make a living?
    some freight railroads carry tons of coal, there goes those jobs, power plants run on coal ,there go those jobs
    I really can not see backtrack carrying Pennsylvania, other than Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, West Virgina, Kentucky, Coal country all of it

    • HoosierinDixie

      I agree Helen. His War on Coal extends far beyond the coal miner.

      • foxyladi14

        just part of his war on America

    • BronwynsHarbor

      I agree, Helen. And I am very glad that John included that. Yes, coal is a pollutant — and terrible — BUT it works, we are utterly dependent on coal nationally, and it will take decades and tens of billions of dollars — trillions, probably — to change all that.

      Btw, Brian Schweitzer, the governor of Montana, is a HELL of a guy — I was hoping he’d run for VP or even president. HE KNOWS COAL, and he knows where the coal is in Montana. Furthermore, because of his background, he knows how to extract coal with a brand-new clean method, and he’s pushing it hard. Also: He speaks Arabic because he worked in Saudi Arabia for years with oil companies. But he’s from a tiny state population-wise, and nobdy will ever consider him for president. Not good.

  • binky354

    Lordy, class envy. Only the wealthy can have jet skis? I’ll have to tell my next door neighbor he’s living above his means. Nurses shouldn’t be able to afford a jet ski.

    • HELENK2

      does that mean my grand daughers can not ride their waverunner any more? Or jet ski in the bay?

      • beachnan

        This article is so off base it is shameful. I too know many people who own jet skis and boats, and they are not super rich. It’s just a hobby they enjoy. I couldn’t believe the media when they showed Romney on his boat on vacation and made such a big deal out of it. It seems that the media are the ones out of touch. He was talking to fund raisers, raising the point, that Obama has 47% and he has 47% and that the race will be decided by those few remaining voters. He never called them freeloaders, the media has done that. Did you watch the convention John? Did you witness the stories where Romney took personal to reach out to people in need. Did you see where he gave away over 4 million dollars to charity? These are the actions of a good man, not an elitist. You are the one out of touch, not Romney.

        • binky354

          For many, many people owning a jet ski, speed boat, 4-wheeler is a matter of choice and priority, not wealth. Since we live in the mountains, we see 4-wheelers instead of jet skis. The Romneys don’t smoke or drink alcoholic beverages — I’ll bet that put a lot of extra money in their pockets. I’d like to have the money today I put into cigarettes for about 40 years, after having become addicted to them in college. Anyone that would hold jet skiing against the Romneys are stupid. That’s a healthy activity compared to a night on the town with celebrities!

        • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

          Yes, it is shameful. There is no call to deny anyone the benefits of success. And nothing about the Romney’s suggest any pretenses. None.

          Batchelor needs to take a look at Romney’s tax returns. He’s giving, between taxes and charity, about 50% of his income. Few people can even remotely match that. Take the Obama’s for example, nothing in comparison.

          • getfitnow

            Or the Bidens. Harry Ried could not be reached for comment.

          • BronwynsHarbor

            NOT in the oceans, however, near WHALES. It is highly disturbing to them as they struggle to find fewer and fewer fish to eat … the KILLER WHALES off Puget Sound, I mean … they are VERY endangered. It’s a huge media occasion when they have a baby.

            One reason why? In WWII, pilots used killer whales for target practice. Lovely.

            Then there was Sea World, etc. who stole babies from their mothers — and HALF of them at least died — and then they are stuck in a tank the rest of their lives? It is insane. AND NO ONE should patronize Sea World. Want to see a killer whale? Look at movies and photos. EVEN whale watching tours are highly disturbing for whales.

            They’re smarter and tougher and better than us in so many ways. God, with those we haven’t killed off from pollution, we starve to death because we bother them so much with jet skis, whale-watching boats, cruise ships, fishing boats, AND plastic that ends up in their stomachs, killing them.

        • shelldoll2

          Not only that but the boat didn’t belong to Romney but someone he knew. The media chose to leave out that fact.

          Obama has flown on private jets of his big donors. So have other Presidents (Big Dawg comes to mind).

          Nancy Pelosi owns her own private jet. Reverend Wright lives in a mansion that most of the commenters on this blog could not afford.

          Did you know that Mitt’s dad left him a fortune? Guess what he did with it? Gave it to charity. Hardly the action of a “princely” elitist.

          • Garookie

            Just a small correction shelldoll2. Pelosi doesn’t own her own jet. She flies every weekend to California on a government owned Gulfstream at the taxpayers expense while she and her husband are multi-millionaires. and this is the c**t that gave us Obama, so I guess she thinks she’s entitled to it and to hell with all the lower and middle class people.
            What’s this big deal about jet skis anyway? They’re no more expensive that snowmobiles and there’s millions of those (owned by people that worked and got ahead and REWARDED themselves with a few toys.
            Next they’ll be saying that we shouldn’t have big flat screen TV’s or (God forbid) computers.
            Incidentally, how much do you think
            Pelosi, Buffett, Clooney, et al that suck up to Obama are going to kick in for Obamas redistribution scheme?

            • shelldoll2

              Thanks for the correction. Mea culpa.

      • MG6

        Helen there is a documentary or movie about those who voted for Obama in 2004 and are in regret for that vote. I saw the trailer now I can’t seem to find it.
        Since you seem to be the Saint of finding all the good stuff. Could you find it?

        • binky354

          It was posted on this site, but I can’t remember the article.

        • HObama HObamanana

          I think you are referring to The Hope and The Change. It’s about people that voted for Obama in 2008 (Democrats and Independents) that no longer support him. And unlike the Democratic commercials these are not actors, but verified actual Obama voters.

          • MG6

            Oh Thank you!
            Now to forward it to all Obots I know.

            • HObama HObamanana

              No problem. It’s playing on television too. The site has the states, dates, times and channels it is showing on.

    • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      Guess according to Batchelor we should accept redistribution.

      • KenoshaMarge

        I don’t think I will. But I know some that think it’s just dandy.

    • Dissentispatriotic

      My sister in law and her husband have 2 jet skis. One is a city street sweeper at night and the other is a factory worker. Neither have college educations but they don’t have children and have managed their resources well. Jet skis are hardly an elite form of entertainment.

      • HObama HObamanana

        I totally agree. I know a lot of people with jet skis. They certainly aren’t rich. There’s nothing quite like gliding over the waves, full throttle on a Waveblaster.

  • Roninstia

    In my humble opinion you are over-reacting, Mr. Bachelor, as only someone with a chip on his shoulder can. Obama is the true King of Arrogance in this contest.

    • BronwynsHarbor

      No. He’s seen life, the good and the bad. Like I have.

      • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

        But there is a very big difference. You do not go around resenting others for their success or luck.

        • elizabethrc

          Well said.

        • BronwynsHarbor

          I really don’t. I just wish that when I had my own business that I’d charged more … but I was NEVER smart that way, and nobody in my family ever advised me … although they kept telling me I’d fail, and I think half the reason I worked my tail off (with a nursing baby too) was to prove them wrong). BUT i loved those days … I felt so PROUD, and I met the most fascinating collection of people. From a black Baptist minister to a young woman from India who was paying her way through a university by pole dancing to the former Chief Justice of the state Supreme Court … and many, many rich, rich people who returned to me very time because I was fast, dedicated, spelled and wrote well, etc.

          Just one thing: The middle- and lower-middle class people often tipped me. The rich ones never did.

      • getfitnow

        That shouldn’t be taken out on Romney.

        • BronwynsHarbor

          DID I EVER SAY SO? I wrote the preface about fraud. Get a clue. I am leaving this thread … it is too disheartening.

    • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      Whether a chip on his shoulder or not, Batchelor clearly has a beef against Romney.

      • BronwynsHarbor

        STFU.

        • TeakWoodKite

          No.

  • HObama HObamanana

    I normally appreciate your posts but I find that you, like so many others, are basing your opinion on incomplete information from a video that even the source that leaked it has admitted has been doctored.

    There are people in this country that won’t vote for Romney no matter what he says or does. You lament that OFA won’t be able to exploit the class warfare game. What the hell do you think they’ve been doing for the past 3 1/2+ years?

    So a self-made rich person makes an accurate statement that there are a large percentage of people in this country that believe the government is the solution to all their problems and feel strongly that they are entitled for the government to provide a livelihood for them. Oh my, someone had the audacity to speak the truth.

    A recent survey of Obama supporters found that only 15% of them thought the economy was doing poorly. What planet do you think the other 85% of them live on? Planet Gravy Train.

    • Theymustbemorons

      Bravo, HOBama HObamanana!

    • HoosierinDixie

      Well said HObama.

    • BronwynsHarbor

      I will personally let John know and await his response … he is an incredibly busy man. He runs a four-hour radio show daily, gets guests, talks to experts, reads … I wonder if he sleeps or eats. He will correct any remarks if needed.

      THAT SAID, we do NOT NEED TO WORRY. Romney’s remarks will, ufortunately, appeal to a great many people in this country who have NO CLUE what it is like to be disabled and utterly dependent on disability. Did you know that if you are on Social Security Disability, you get NO medical insurance for TWO years? That you don’t qualify for any food stamps, housing assistance, telephone bill assistance, internet connection assistance, or ANY of the “goodies” that people on MedicAid get?

      I know. I waited 5 years to see the neurosurgeon I saw Wednesday morning — after driving to Seattle (nearly a tank of gas + two-way ferry) + food (brought my own) + place to sleep (a friend used his few airline points to get me a room that was lovely and had a tiny refrigerator for my cheese and milk for cereal I brought from home).

      I had to turn age 65 before I could get the Medigap (Medicare’s Part C coverage) and costs $170/month. All together — after I receive just over $1000/month (after working 42 years, including high school and all four years of college, serving rich kids who don’t say thank you) — I have to pay over $700/mo. rent + a total of $420/mo. for Medicare (premiums for Parts B, C, and D) + over-the-counter drugs + prescriptions for drugs too new to be generic (but I try hard not to use those, but must take two of them). One over-the-counter drug costs me nearly $100/month — but I am “cheating” by cutting the dose in half … now if I could just get to the surgeon in Seattle (again) who has created a brand-new surgery that will cure my problem.

      Did you know that I go to Costco for my prescriptions not just for its prices for the drugs that Medicare does NOT cover but also because I am trying to be a “good citizen” since Costco also does not charge Medicare nearly as much as do other pharmacies. Do you know how many people do that? Probably few because it just doesn’t occur to them, or they flat out don’t care … what I save Medicare is a drop in the ocean … but I feel GUILTY if I do not try. I feel GUILTY if I have an MRI or see a surgeon. I feel GUILTY having to get prescriptions and even go to my regular GP, who is terrible but he’s the only clinic in the entire area that still takes people on MedicAid OR Medicare. Even in Seattle, most surgeons do not take Medicaid — and many don’t take Medicare.

      That is why I am voting for Romney — not because he is so unaware (which he is) — but because he will work hard,will try to improve Obamacare (which he cannot repeal, I’ll bet you anything), etc., etc.

      Now … I am going to try to find some food to eat. I have a box of cereal and some milk that I hope is still good … it probably isn’t.

      • binky354

        Oh, my, if I had your address I’d send you a few boxes of cereal! LOL. You’ve made some good points. Clearly there needs to be some overhaul of the system now in place, but, and I know you agree, we do not need a take-over by government. Romney is able to solve problems and I hope he will take a look at the failures of the current medical system. One thing I sure agree with is more investigation into fraud. I believe the investigators could save enough to pay their own salaries.

      • HObama HObamanana

        I am not one that believes that people on medical disability are sponges or freeloaders taking advantage of government freebies. I know people that need, and fortunately have, government assistance because of accidents or illnesses due to no fault of their own. It’s a mere pittance from anyone’s perspective and I certainly will not condemn or criticize anyone that requests or accepts that assistance. I find some of the reactions from those on the far right particularly troublesome. It’s one of the main reasons I do not officially affiliate myself with the Republican party.

        I support Mitt Romney because our country is in dire financial straits. Democrats may privately admit to this but they will make statements like the one from Dear Leader, that it isn’t a short term problem. Like hell it isn’t. So Mitt will come in and straighten things out. People will complain and criticize because he has to make so many cuts that the Democrats dare not touch. Because if they acted responsibly they would lose political support. And that is just the plain, unvarnished truth. Those are the people that Mitt Romney is talking about. Those that couldn’t care less what their “needs” do to the future our country.

        You should NEVER feel guilty because you need medical assistance. It’s a need, not something you want and can do without if push came to shove. So don’t harm yourself with negative energies. You will be a lot healthier if you get off from your own case and relax a little. And if some Republican asshole feels like criticizing you, calling you a freeloader or a part of the problem, send them my way. I have no problem setting immoral, selfish people straight. I kinda get off on it.

        • BronwynsHarbor

          THANK YOU, and i find myself in complete agreement with you. I live in one of those “affordable living” apartments complexes … it is nice since it is 4 years old (and the trees are growing and the lawns very nicely maintained, which takes some money).

          The young people here who do not work and who claim disability, etc. — makes me sick. Young girls with lots of little kids who I can hear howling at all hours? At least the Mormon couple next door had a 3-bedroom and welcomed their teen daughter, husband and baby into a bedroom … but I predict the girl/husband will divorce. I spotted him with another woman one night. (I usually stay away from just about everyone because the current people on either side of my unit deal pain pills….. and are also involved in selling marijuana, etc.)

          One woman asked me if I had any Ambien once because she wanted to know if I’d ever snorted it. I nearly keeled over from shock.

          However, I pay over $700/month because disabled units cost that much, and I need the extra space for my walker … but had to get a roommate for the added Medicare insurance. But my unit is nice — there’s even room in the kitchen should I need one someday. (“NEVER!” I say now — but that’s because wheelchairs kill my back, so … my Mom used a walker until she died at 91 — and I am using HER walker because, my mom being who she was, she always bought the best. )
          My mom grew up poor, and she always thought she had to get her make-up at Nordstrom and her clothes and shoes too. Yikes. I have never been able to do that, but it screwed up my money sense until (!) I became so damn poor — and now it is actually FUN to see how frugal I can be. Seriously! I get a kick out of it — clipping the coupons at Costco, but that’s a dangerous place for me … those cookies, that fruit … I used to buy their apples but I can’t that many that fast anymore.
          I also wore my mom’s clothes to see the surgeon in Seattle. Like her, I’m losing weight both from GERD and because, fortunately, my appetite “thingy” in my brain works, and when I am full, I stop eating. Whew. I am going to ease myself off the OTC pills that cost nearly $100/month … I see gastroenterologist on Oct. 11 — he asked me to continue ’til then, but I am already cutting the dosage in half. Two twice a day (4 total/day) for three months? When bottle says 1/day for only 14 days then four months off? I don’t think so … ha. Enough of life on the other side of the tracks! At least I know the name of the Vice President, unlike the lady who asked me for Ambien! :) :)

          • HObama HObamanana

            As someone that has had to deal with GERD please take my advice and do a bit of relaxing. No more guilt and try your best to think good things and maintain a positive attitude. Bad personally induced vibes create all kinds of nasty things in your body.

          • CathyInKs

            Bronwyn you’re obviously doing the best you can and more! BTW I always appreciate your articles here – keep them up! I have a good friend also on medical disability who is finally getting custody of her granddaughter whom she has raised since the child was 2 and the girl is now in elementary school. My friend’s son – the father of the little girl – is deceased and until recently the “mom” of the girl was taking her daughter’s social security benefits, getting food stamps, even a clothes allowance for her daughter which the daughter hardly saw any of it. Mom was using her daughter’s benefits for drugs, to feed her druggie roommates and on clothes for herself.

            • CathyInKs

              cont. of prev. post But there is a God and finally my friend – the “real mom” to her granddaughter is getting custody of her granddaughter. Mom can only see her daughter with supervised visits. Social security benefits for her daughter go to the real residence of her daughter, which is my friend and my friend no longer spends sleepless nights worrying about mom showing up at the girl’s school and disappearing with her granddaughter. When you mentioned some of the tenants in your bldg., I couldn’t help but think of my friend’s ex-daughter in-law.

      • TeakWoodKite

        “which he cannot repeal”; he as POTUS can’t but Congress can and should.

    • MarkFtLaud

      herehere! I second HoosierinDixie’s statement

    • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      I agree with you 100%.

    • akaPatience

      Well said as usual HH! But I suspect those 85% actually live on The Red Planet.

  • Dissentispatriotic

    The SW are of Virginia is a coal mining region, too. During the 2008 primary, Hillary won this district much the same as she won WVA. They don’t much care for Obama. It’s pretty rural, but haven’t seen either Romney nor Ryan making stops there.

    • MarkFtLaud

      Both Romney and Ryan have been in the Roanoke-Lynchburg Market.

      • binky354

        Yes and they need to make a quick swing through to the Wise and Coeburn, Virginia, area and maybe slip on over into the Jenkins area of Kentucky. It would be nice.

        • MarkFtLaud

          Binky354. No time for Kentucky. They need to hit Michigan, Ohio, Wisc and PA

          • binky354

            But, Letcher County is just over the hill from Wise.

            • MarkFtLaud

              Binky. Kentucky not a swing state. RR must hit Wisc PA Ohio Michigan. Iowa. VA. We can and will kick that sorry ass for an American and Moochelle to their 35 million estate in HA.

              • binky354

                @Mark Oh, I know. and I understand. I just said it would be nice… :)

                • MarkFtLaud

                  I agree. I’ve met them in FL. Wonderful and real. I was shocked that they have always been proud of their country. Wow how original is that! Anywho going kayaking in Ft Laud. I still have an 04 Bush sticker on them. In 08 had liked HC. No more she is as bad as him.

      • Dissentispatriotic

        Roanoke and Lynchburg are not in the 9th District, though. Go further west to Norton, for example. That is coal country. Roanoke is not and they vote very differently.

        • MarkFtLaud

          True Dissentis. I still think VA in bag.