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[Breaking] Anderson Cooper, Bob Baer on Benghazi — and Fox News’s Ignorance

Breaking 09/28/12: Today (17 days and counting), DNI James Clapper claimed that intelligence officials needed more evidence before asserting the Benghazi ambush was terrorism. Further, the FBI reasonably asked for “perimeter support” by the U.S. military but permission was denied. Fran Townsend is carrying water for Obama, saying it takes “time” because each department (State, etc.) must sign off. (Film at ll. that’s true; it’s around the time CNN posts AC360 videos. I’ll add the transcript, and wait for Larry Johnson to blast D.C. out of its Hari Krishna stupor. PROTEIN! That’ll make Obama’s brain work. Although commitment, work and honesty would do.)

BELOW: Anderson Cooper’s 09/27/12 rant about the Obama administration’s cover-up.

                       ”The world rolls round for ever like a mill;
                       It grinds out death and life and good and ill;
                       It has no purpose, heart or mind or will. [...]

NOTE: Listen to Bob Baer’s remarks about the FBI and military. Yesterday, in a derisive tone, a Fox News host asked why the FBI is involved in investigating scenes of international terrorism. (Ask Larry Johnson about Fox News.) In 2006-2007, I read (and referenced) Lawrence Wright’s must-own The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11 in which Wright describes in excruciating detail the FBI’s efforts to investigate the USS Cole bombing and more. Larry knows Ali Soufan, the FBI’s former Supervisory Special Agent who “supervised highly sensitive and complex international terrorism cases, including the East Africa Embassy Bombings, the attack on the USS Cole, and the events surrounding 9/11.”

Soufan, who also speaks Arabic fluently, doubtless became discouraged with the bureaucracy of the FBI. He, like many others including you, was astonished to find himself one of approximately seven agents who spoke and wrote Arabic, a language that — Pat Lang can tell you — is very difficult unless one lives in the region, as Pat did. Furthermore, there are numerous slight and not-so-slight differences in how Arabic is spoken, depending on the region and the culture.

Now, on to Anderson Cooper. Unfortunately, CNN failed to include a video of Cooper’s verbal essay in the top-of-the-show “Keeping Them Honest” segment. Here are brief excerpts from the CNN transcript:

Late word tonight from the U.S. State Department they’re pulling more staffers out of the embassy in Tripoli because of security concerns. …

Today, 16 days after the attack, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta stated plainly what was obvious to many, including Senator John McCain, who joins us shortly…

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LEON PANETTA, DEFENSE SECRETARY: As we determined the details of what took place there and how that attack took place, that it became clear that there were terrorists who had planned that attack. (END VIDEO CLIP)

COOPER: Best we can tell, this is the first time any administration official has uttered the word “planned” to describe what happened. Asked how long it took to reach his conclusion, Secretary Panetta said, “it took awhile,” …

Multiple sources now tell 360 that officials knew this was a terror attack almost from the get-go … intelligence officials. Yet this is what they were saying for more than a week publicly after the killing.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SUSAN RICE, U.S. AMBASSADOR TO UNITED NATIONS: …

COOPER: Now there are many possible explanations for why the administration took so long to budge from that line .. [F]rom an excess of caution to the fog of war to incompetence or domestic politics. [We have] a collection of inconsistencies between the administration line and our own understanding of the facts. [...]

“Keeping Them Honest,” though, Libya’s newly elected prime minister told CNN’s Arwa Damon a full week ago that investigators had been invited into Libya and that the Libyans would provided any needed protection. Whether or not the Libyan government could have delivered on that promise, we’ll never know. What we do know is that no FBI agents are in Benghazi, according to our reporting. The crime scene remains unprotected and somehow the official line seems to be that everything is going fine with the Libyan government and the FBI investigation. …

Anderson Cooper is not confused about the role of FBI Special Agents at scenes of international terrorism. Cooper KNOWS either through his own reading, most likely, or through his guests. But Fox News does not know, nor do its hosts. More irony abounds … Fox News rants day and night about Benghazi, yet doesn’t know Terrorism 101 — known by any average American who’s read newspapers or books or listened to guests interviewed by far more objective reporters like Anderson Cooper.

Now, a brief excerpt from the interview of a CNN producer on Tripoli and Benghazi:

JOMANA KARADSHEH, CNN PRODUCER (via phone): The embassy in Tripoli [id] on high alert since the attack in Benghazi. .. they evacuated nonessential staff and travel within Tripoli has been restricted.

The concern here among the Western community [NOTE: NOT JUST THE U.S>] in Tripoli and diplomats, I earlier spoke with a security advisor for one of the Western Diplomatic Commission and they say they’re concerned about the demonstrations that are expected tomorrow in Tripoli … also in Benghazi. … A senior Libyan security official in Tripoli told his mission that they were worried [protests may turn violent].

These are not anti-American or anti-Western protests … they’re a continuation of what we saw in Benghazi last Friday, people taking to the streets to put pressure on the government to disband militias and create security forces. They actually protest against extremism, …

The U.S. embassy this evening posted on its Web site a warning for U.S. citizens in Tripoli and in Benghazi who remain in country to avoid the two main squares because of these demonstrations, saying that while they are expected to be peaceful protests, that they could turn violent.

Meanwhile, Barack Obama is on The View.

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More from the once-famous poem “THE CITY OF DREADFUL NIGHT,” by the 19th-century Scottish poet James Thomson:

             ”Man might know one thing were his sight less dim;
             That it whirls not to suit his petty whim,
             That it is quite indifferent to him.

             ”Nay, does it treat him harshly as he saith?
             It grinds him some slow years of bitter breath,
             Then grinds him back into eternal death.”

Encore recently aired “Crimson Petal and the White,” a 2011 BBC mini-series from the novel of the same name. The main character, a literate prostitute who lived during the repressive Victorian era when women were treated like trash (and still are in too many countries), quotes that poem. I jotted down the title and poet’s name, nearly forgot I’d done so, and the rest is … well, the rest of the poem is here. If Starz/Encore continue to air exceptional programming like this, I may be enticed to subscribe. In fact, Starz has two such dramas in the works, one starring the same actress in the BBC mini-series.

Being somewhat known for my digressions, allow me to add that the BBC is owned by the British government, as is PBS in the United States. The hue and cry from members of Congress — nearly all of them Republicans — to slash or do away with the funding for PBS is disgusting. Of course, it is rare to hear a Democrat in Congress (or Barack Obama) defend PBS’s programming.

Yet, PBS cannot hope to compete with the budgets of Starz/Encore, which snaps up these programs and, said to say, has aired the mini-series so far but once. In contrast, I believe — if memory serves — that I can watch all of “Downton Abbey” at PBS’s Web site, for free.

The amount PBS derives from U.S. taxpayers is infinitesimal compared to annual budgets of the departments of defense, housing, and more. Larry Johnson also wrote about the cuts needed in the Department of Defense and other government programs.

Yet, on Fox News, the sole reference to money for the arts is that of the sicko “artist” who put Jesus or a crucifix in a glass of urine. Yes, that is disgusting. No, that is not art. But, if it is anything at all, it is an example of the extremes to which the United States will go in allowing “free speech,” which Fox News only cares about when the words come from a Republican. Again, I’d like to encourage anyone who hasn’t to read Larry Johnson‘s post about Fox News.

  • bbf

    What is appalling was not that FoxNews didn’t know about the FBI investigation of international terrorism..what is appalling is that the crime scene was unprotected, and reporters from CNN were able to walk in and find the Ambassador’s diary..in which he wrote about his concerns for his own safety and that of other U. S. personnel. What is also appalling..is that inspite of the murder of U. S. personnel and the burning of the embassies in Libya and Egypt…the continuing resolution reportedly gave Libya another $200 MILLION and Egypt another $1.2 BILLION U. S. dollars…..and then our elected officials went home…and Obama went on campaigning,

  • Hokma

    I caught this blog post by someone I happen to have known who had an ad agency and did not like mostly because of his personality (or lack of) and did not hire his agency.

    I don’t care that much about his attack on Romney’s 47% but took issue with his B.S. about private equity firms and enjoyed lacing into him with my comment:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/bain-brain-how-managing-like-a-ceo-has-led-romney-astray/262878/

  • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

    Bronwyn is right to call out Fox for deriding the FBI’s proper role for investigating these matters. They were the first ones on the ground in the aftermath of the USS Cole and the bombing of the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. The more important point is that the FBI has not been allowed to the scene of the attack. Any evidence they could collect has been completely corrupted. This was just show. The Obama Administration made no serious effort to get the FBI to the scene of the attack. That’s the real story.

    • TeakWoodKite

      Sure would like to the Special agents who were sent there. They must be PISSED.

  • MG6

    And we are giving Egypt millions of dollars help the Muslim brotherhood to….What again?

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/09/28/Christians-flee-Egypt-town-after-death-threats

  • Retired_from_SPOnaj

    Fortunately, then, no investigation until after the election. Nothing to see here, move on. Crickets.

    • Hokma

      If somehow Obama is re-elected and the GOP somehow gets a majority in the Senate, how soon do you think we will see a ramp of investigations on corruption and cover-ups dating back to the illegal firing of an inspector general for investigating one of Obama’s buddies and all leading to articles of impeachment – - a year – - – less?

      • CathyInKs

        Hokma – this country is so divided right now due to Obama and the dems that if the republicans get control in the senate, I see impeachment being pursued before a year is out! I have a strong feeling the republicans will have no choice. People are really worried about another 4 years of Obama. I see Eric Holder going down first. Biden – I don’t know.

  • MG6
  • binky354

    “The hue and cry from members of Congress — nearly all of them Republicans — to slash or do away with the funding for PBS is disgusting.” I respectfully disagree with you about PBS. What I find disgusting is that they have become a liberal propaganda arm, cloaking themselves with elitism. They take taxpayer dollars – doesn’t matter how little. The least they could do would be to present the news unbiased and keep the left/right opinions out of it. I used to watch PBS frequently and listen to NPR. Leading up to the 2008 election, they were as biased as any of the lamestream media. Now I don’t donate and I don’t watch/listen.

  • DianaLC

    Bronwyn,
    It’s late, so perhaps the fact that I’m tired is the reason ths post seems extremely disjointed to me. You do some bashing of Fox, then give Anderson Cooper some coverage, give us a depressing nihilistic poem from the 19th century (or perhaps it falls into the school of naturaism that was popular at the time), then move on to someting about PBS. It’s making my head spin, in any case.
    I can’t therefore find anything really pertinent to say, other than to say that it appeas to me that you do not think much of the commenters here since you seem to feel we are all Fox-worshipers or something and can’t also jude that channel objectively. In our defense, it’s just that there is litle else in the way of major news shows that won’t make us barf with their O worship.
    I take my news coverage in many forms and from many places.
    I did not need to know why the FBI is supposedly involved and what the arguments were for and against its involvement because I have been reading this blog and Larry’s posts, and I have heard the reasons explained for their involvement and trouble getting protection ON FOX.
    I have nothing to say about Anderson Cooper except that I am still angry with him because of his strange laughter when Rachel Madcow called he Tea Party participants tea baggers. I liked Cooper’s coverage of Katrina, and I do feel some relief that he and others at CNN are trying to be objective, but I do not now idolize ANY of the talking heads. Along with 60% of the population of this country I just don’t trust any of them.
    As for PBS, it’s a non issue with me. I just don’t watch much of it. I am ambivalent about its public funding.
    There……I am going to bed.

  • JohnnyTwoDog

    PBS is a filthy animal. I don’t watch filty animals. PBS may have programs as good as pumpkin pie but I’ll never know because I won’t watch the filthy m-fer.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ND2FCCGVV2IZTTAZQTXKJTCPNI Ruth

      i have supported pbs in the past but i have to say with the politics i just can’t do it anymore. i will give my support to people who don’t have a snotty attitude toward the average american. we the people pay the bills and deserve respect and not put downs wherever they come from.

  • HObama HObamanana

    I am a little disappointed that you decided to come down on Fox when they (and no one else) declared that this was an act of terrorism right from the start and have been consistently providing details that other networks (like CNN) are just beginning to cover. While I appreciate that a few people at CNN are acting like journalists, it was Fox, from the very start, that called this correctly and has provided breaking news that most everyone else that is covering this has aped.

    You can put down Fox all you like. But facts are facts, except to Obots, and Fox was way out in front of this long before anyone else. CNN has done some good reporting and I commend them. But I see no need to belittle Fox to exalt CNN. It’s a foolish and deceptive game. For the most part, CNN is just another Obama campaign outlet and really sucks. To pretend otherwise is lying.

    • BronwynsHarbor

      Did you read Larry Johnson’s post about Fox News? I posted a link to Larry’s post twice in my post above. And it IS appalling that they did not know that the FBI oversees investigations of terrorist acts. And it is laudable that Anderson Cooper does know.

      Besides, how do you think I KNOW what is said on Fox? Because i have it on most of the time. Honest to pete. And I only DVR Anderson Cooper because he is an objective reporter, more objective at times than Fox (altho that mostly applies to Sean Hannity).

      • binky354

        Even so, Fox seems to put out more unbiased information that all the others put together. Without Fox, Conservatives and Independents wouldn’t have any place to go. I sure have some complaints about Fox: One of them is they don’t have a program where you don’t see Obama making speeches when it would suffice for them to just tell us what he was saying. Many times Fox loses our viewership when they play their videos of the man spewing his lies. It’s enough to raise the blood pressure!

        • callmebond

          I concur. And I’m sick of how frequently I need to use the remote to escape the daily WH talking-points from Leftist Tools, including Juan Williams and Alan Colmes.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Unless I have lost the ability to comprehend, Larry’s post was about media bias. He did reference Fox in a sentence or two but my impression was that he was mainly referring to the bias of the other networks that have a 24/7 Worship Obama church going on.

        Yes, it’s good that CNN has one unbiased guy that acts like a journalist. But let’s be realistic here, the only reason Cooper stands out at CNN is because nearly everyone else on the network is a Kool-Aid guzzling Obot that doesn’t have a frickin clue.

        I’m not happy when I see clueless idiots on any network. And yes, the cluelessness of the Fox folks concerning the FBI’s supposed investigation into this attack is disturbing. I can connect the dots thanks to information I learned at this blog, namely the excellent book by Ali Soufan, The Black Banners. What I find appalling is that the FBI is still not on the ground investigating this assault, nearly 3 weeks after it occurred. I also find it appalling that we have an Administration that seems perfectly willing to still present this attack as the result of some stupid video, yet finally calling it terrorism and treating us like children that couldn’t possibly have discovered this truth on our own. I’ll give the Administration credit for one thing though, this attack was instigated as the result of a video, a video from Ayman al-Zawahiri.

  • JohnnyTwoDog

    Big Bird can pay his/her own way. The Muppets are a commercial enterprise that can stand on their own. Why do taxpayers need to keep footing a bill for their profits?
    PBS lost it’s relevence.

  • piattq

    Fox has reported almost exactly what you quote Anderson Cooper reporting above. Your trashing of Fox on this (for saying doing the same news story) makes no sense. In reality Baier and Cooper are about the only ones reporting Behghazi in this way.

    • BronwynsHarbor

      SEE MY REPLY ABOVE to HoHo.

  • piattq

    BTW I used to be a real supporter of PBS because of things like the McNeil Leher News Hour and masterpiece theater but I think government support should end. They can make it on private contributions and foundation support. That is more honest. And their news hour has become more openly Dem biased.

    • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

      Perhaps time to start a campaign telling PBS no more donations until they stop taking taxpayer money (and be less biased)

    • HObama HObamanana

      Yeah, I’m not very pleased that Bronwyn has decided to defend PBS. They used to be good, especially The News Hour. But they decided to take sides and become political. That is when I quit watching their programs. And I watched The News Hour religiously for a very long time.

      I don’t think the public should be required to support any media entity that does not provide equal sides of any issue. And frankly, PBS can survive on the contributions of it’s members or it can’t. There is no justifiable reason that citizens should be required to support a state run or slanted broadcast service. This isn’t China, Iran or North Korea.

      • CathyInKs

        Agree PBS and NPR have become extremely biased in the way they cover the news. I stopped listening to NPR on a regular basis during the dem. primaries of ’08. Hillary and Obama were running neck and neck but the commentator was uttering the same meme of most of the MSM. She said she was certain that when the time came, Hillary was a lady (or something to that effect) and would drop out of the primaries. I was disgusted. The statement was so over the top “sexist” plus arrogant and condescending. There was no reason at that point to proclaim Hillary or Obama as winners. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing! I shut the radio off and now I only listen to some music programming on Sat. and Sun. on NPR

  • piattq

    This post doesn’t make much sense to me. Fox News mentioned the Christian bashing art piece only as an example of how the US DOES go to extremes in protecting free speech. Larry may have his issues with Fox News but I see a real range of perspectives on Fox from the right wing Hannity to a more straight news format with Bret Baier, Shep etc. And in terms of tv news they are about all we have in contrast to other cable shows and MSM.

    • HObama HObamanana

      If I recall correctly, Larry has issues with CNN too. I agree that this post doesn’t make a lot of sense.

  • HELENK2

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/09/28/170078/intelligence-office-says-it-got.html

    why is the intelligence office falling on their sword for backtrack??

    • BronwynsHarbor

      Wow. I found a comment relevant to 3/4 of my post. Thank you, Helen.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ND2FCCGVV2IZTTAZQTXKJTCPNI Ruth

      without fox our lamestream media would have passed all this by and i don’t know if the lies would have come out for americans.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ND2FCCGVV2IZTTAZQTXKJTCPNI Ruth

      helenk2 i suspect some of them need their jobs.

  • getfitnow

    It’s not a priority issue for me right now, but I do believe the government needs to stop funding so-called public radio and tv. There was a time, to add variety to what the public was getting, which was very little, it was valuable. But the market place has expanded and people have access to a plethora of news from all over the world 24/7. Although there has been some excellent programming, I have found over the years, the news moving to the left. I stopped listening to NPR in ’08 because of obvious slant toward Obama, even when there were several candidates still in the primaries This is not in the public interest.

    I think they should compete in the marketplace, or up their private funding. I believe NPR received a hefty endowment some years ago from either one of the founders of MacDonald’s or his widow.

    Have you seen the salaries the top broadcasters make? Well into the 6 figures. This is what I hate about some so-called non-profits.

    • piattq

      Joan Kroc, Ray Kroc’s widow donated a huge windfall to PBS (I think a billion or so). Few strings attached. Kroc founded McDonald’s corporation and pretty much invented “fast food”.