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Obama White House in Meltdown over Benghazi (UPDATE)

Tomorrow’s hearing on murder of four American “diplomats” at the hands of Al Qaeda linked terrorists on the 11th anniversary of the 9-11 attacks will put the final nails in the coffin carrying the political corpse of Barack Obama. His Presidency is dead, done and finished. We have breaking news tonight (thanks Helen) that two senior State Department officers informed the press (sans Fox News) that on the evening of 9-11 in Benghazi there was no protst or spontaneous riot. Nope. Just an organized group of armed men who stormed the consulate.

This completely blows Susan Rice out of the water and is the first of some major bloodletting that will ensure pitting Hillary’s State Department with Obama’s White House. The Obama team sent out Susan Rice to lie about what happened. Yet, with each passing day we are getting a new revelation destroying her farsical version of events.

Leave it to Newt Gingrich’s operation to hit Obama with a nuclear ad:

But that’s not all.

The Washington Post reports:

Less than two months before the fatal attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, the State Department concluded that the risk of violence to diplomats and other Americans in Libya was high and that the weak U.S.-backed government in Tripoli could do little about it.

“The risk of U.S. Mission personnel, private U.S. citizens and businesspersons encountering an isolating event as a result of militia or political violence is HIGH,” a State Department security assessment from July 22 concludes. . . .

The department’s former top security officer told the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform that he had recommended keeping U.S. military and additional State Department security forces on hand through October, documents released by the committee show.

“The (Libyan government) was overwhelmed and could not guarantee our protection,” former regional security officer Eric A. Nordstrom wrote Oct. 1. “Sadly, that point was reaffirmed Sept. 11 2012 in Benghazi.”

Can’t wait to watch Barack, in his new role as “the Angry Black Man,” defend this incompetence.

The lame attempt by Obama to hide behind the claim that, “there was no actionable intelligence,” is being systematically and thoroughly destroyed. The intelligence was plentiful and clear. The requests from the Regional Security Officer were unambiguous. The recommendations of Senior Military leaders on the ground left no room for doubt. The State Department and the White House, to quote Ricky Riccardo, will have a lot of splaining to do. And none of their explanations are defensible. Whatever legacy Hillary hoped to have at State is now in flames and turning to putrid ashes. She has the blood of four Americans on her hands. And as she goes down she is taking Mr. “I KILLED BIN LADEN” with her.

UPDATE: The rats are heading for the lifeboats. This call by State Department is a shot across the bow of the White House.

  • Retired_from_SPOnaj

    Quotable quotes from Obama:
    1. “You didn’t build that.”
    2. “I didn’t say that.”

  • Eyes Wide Open

    Perhaps this was to be a two pronged operation. Let me tr and explain.

    First the video. Some sketchy evidence may have turned up that claims lead to the two men who broke into the passport office and messed about with Obama’s passport in 2008. They lead to Soros. The two men were supposed to have renamed the video to make it incendiary. How did the White House learn of this obscure video? Soros?

    Then Hillary and Obama make that stupid apology ad for Pakistan further churning the pot. Stealth attack on Freedom of Speech in the USA has been happening. What better way to further this than the deaths of Americans which they link to a video?

    Second Obama is striving to show himself as the great foreign expert and that the Arab Spring is democracy rising, instead of the take down of other nations that it is. He calls them bumps in the road.

    Coverup, or something far more sinister?

  • 8true8

    Then we read on DickMorris.com that the UN is signing a secret treaty in December for world domination of our internet! No one is paying attention!

  • 8true8

    How can a president NOT be prosecuted for lying … he is to protect the people, that is his job. He is not doing this and is in default of his duties … along with everything else!

  • Dissentispatriotic

    O/T but having a lot of difficulty reading NQ these days. Yesterday, someone else mentioned that the ABC videos were causing problems and this is what comes up in my messages about the script. Have to shut down the computer and never do get to read the entire post of leave comments unless I go through NQ notices in my mailbox. Any ideas? Hate not being able to access the site from home.

  • Joe Six-Pack

    I did not want President Clinton removed from office because he lied about getting blown and cheating on his wife. It was not worth the damage to the office of President.

    Lying about the killing of our ambassador and the act of war that it represents is an entirely different matter. Just what side is President Obama on? Our President placed his own personal political interest before country. I am a man and if drafted, I would be required to place my life in jeopardy. Not in my own personal interest, but my country comes first. And this guy is President placing his political interest in front of MY country?
    He should be removed immediately. To NOT do so is to damage the office of the President far more than if he stayed.

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  • Penngirl

    Has there been any reactions from the families of Amb. Stevens and the other three Americans who were killed in Libya? Seems to me they would be demanding answers with all the recent media coverage. (I respect their need for privacy at this time, but I would think someone would speak up for the families of the victims.)

    • 8true8

      I have heard one of the mother’s speaking out about not knowing what happened. Don’t worry … we’ll hear from them!

  • Hokma

    I strongly believe as they peel away the layers from this cover up of Banghazi what the publi will find is an administration whose foreign policy was being run by political advisors and not by foreign policy professionals.

    With how rapid events are unfolding Obama will be facing a devastating Waterloo with the third and final debate which is on foreign policy.

    His foreign policy stump speech still is Bin Laden is dead and Al Qaeda is on the run. In reality according to Lara Logan of CBS, the administration is “lying” about Al Qaeda and the Taliban – both are haveing a strong resurgance. In the streets of ME Muslims countries the protesters were yelling “now there are a thousand Bin Ladens.” And then there is the debacle and cover up of the killings in Benghazi.

    This is a flawed and failed President who has no retort than to immaturely call his opponent a “liar” and accuse him of going after Big Bird.

    This really is a repeat of 1980. Romney already had his Reagan debate moment and Obama is going down in flames as Carter did at the end.

    • HoosierinDixie

      I too am looking forward to the third debate but I think we will get a small taste of what to expect from Ryan tomorrow. Biden likes to fancy himself as an expert in foreign affairs and is clearly no match for Ryan on the state of the economy. Ryan can crunch economic numbers like a frat house crunches beer cans. Gaffe prone Biden will be forced to pivot to foreign policy to save face and Ryan will hit him with Benghazi and Fast & Furious. Ryan’s biggest challenge will be to avoid looking like he is beating up on a defenseless old man.

  • randi

    On another topic, but I know Larry will appreciate this – and I was not sure where to post.
    Jack Welch: I Was Right About That Strange Jobs Report
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444897304578046260406091012.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

    • Justine00

      And, based on the possibility that employers will turn full-time jobs into part-time ones, to avoid the negatives of Obummercare, the job numbers will continue to look “improved” because there will now be (for example) 30 part-time jobs where there used to be 10 full-time jobs. The jobs created figure will show 20 more jobs. The statistic is essentially meaningless, so far as full-time and part-time jobs.
      .

      • sowsear1

        And large numbers of unemployed are now categorized as disabled or self-employed…That sure does help those numbers.

      • HoosierinDixie

        Darden, that own Olive Garden, Long Horn and Red Lobster are starting now to make all their employees part-timers. If they work no more than 29 1/2 hours a week the company avoids the mandate to provide healthcare and the Obamacare penalty. I expect to see other companies following suit.

        • Dissentispatriotic

          Won’t reflect in the unemployment numbers since they count any employment equally. Only ones hurt are the employees and their families.

          • HoosierinDixie

            Sorry I did not mean to imply it would change unemployment numbers. I was only pointing out the trend to eliminate full-time status in favor of part-time status to avoid the Obamacare mandate. I agree the employees are the ones that will suffer.

        • Retired_from_SPOnaj

          Great, that ought to motivate them. “Bend over, Obama is here” could become a new campaign slogan.

  • getfitnow

    Headlines from DRUDGE:

    Official account changes: No protest over anti-Islam video…

    FLASHBACK: Amb. Rice: ‘Hateful video on Internet sparked violence’…

    FLASHBACK: Obama: ‘A crude and disgusting video sparked outrage’…

    ROMNEY: Not video, ‘despite administration’s attempts to convince us’…

    Top Official: ‘Inappropriately low’ security at post…

    House oversight committee holds probe today…

    Rep. Issa ‘closes in on Clinton’…
    ************************
    Seems we’re in store for multiple “surprises” this October.

  • getfitnow

    http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/terrorism/260977-dems-accuse-issa-of-playing-politics-with-secret-trip-to-libya
    *************************
    The rest of the story
    *************************

    Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), the chairman of the
    subpanel on national security, was the only committee member to take
    part in the congressional delegation….
    Chaffetz told The Hill that he found out at the last minute that he
    was cleared for the visit to Libya and said Democrats declined to take
    part.
    “Even I got less than 24 hours notice that we were going,” he said.
    “I dropped everything to make it happen, [Democrats] chose not to.”
    “The State Department flew out an attorney to follow me around
    everywhere I went. The Democrats had no representation, they didn’t have
    a member of Congress who thought it was important enough to go.”

    • Dissentispatriotic

      I heard Cummings whining earlier that because of the 24 hour notice, it was impossible that he or any of the Democrats could go. Might have upset some comfortable plans he had by exposing him to the nasty truth but he’d rather see it slow walked past November 6 to keep those voters in line.

  • getfitnow

    Larry what’s your take on David Petraeus in all this?

  • randi

    Don’t shoot me, but I think that her statements are technically or legally correct – not specific enough to be a smoking gun. “The President of the Palestinian Authority…and quote, deploring an act of ugly terror”…”This has been a difficult week…We’ve seen the heavy assault on our post in Benghazi that took the lives of those brave men. We’ve seen rage and violence directed at American Embassies over an awful Internet video that we had nothing to do with”

    I read “heavy assault” as technically correct – the next sentence can be read as a separate incident. She did not actually claim that the video was the cause of the death of the Americans.

  • http://twitter.com/StrayYellarDawg SYD

    I hope you are right, Larry. I feel so ashamed of, and betrayed by, my former party. Just how many Democrats will fall on their swords for this ill gotten Pretendent of theirs? Why is Bill still out there campaigning for Barack? Is Joe Biden going to defend his King in the Veep debate this week? Where are Hillary’s sensibilities??

    Ashamed of and betrayed by. By all of them. That is how I feel right now.

    • KenoshaMarge

      Ashamed and betrayed is how many feel. However I don’t feel betrayed by Biden. I have thought he was a POS since the Anita Hill hearings. I have never understood how his constand foot-in-mouth remarks are simply smoothed over as if it’s just fine for “Good Ol Joe” to say what ever comes into his head. Does the phrase that the media was so fond of about Sarah Palin, one heartbeat away, not mean anything any more? Appartently not.

  • HObama HObamanana

    Diane Sawyer is almost laughable in the way she acts so surprised. It’s amazing how Obots try so hard to act like actual human beings.

    If there is some “splaining to be done” I don’t suppose Bill Clinton will be stepping up to the plate for Barky on this one. Unless he wants to see an across the board GOP landslide in a few weeks, that is.

    • KenoshaMarge

      Wouldn’t count on Bill Clinton not trying to help Obama out in an attempt to salvage something for Hillary. Plus he can’t seem to stand not being in the limelight.

  • JohnnyTwoDog

    The prebutal.

    The new story is that the attack was so overwhelming that even the special forces detail would not have held off the attack nor saved the compound and ambassador.

    And we can’t protect the world from Iranian nukes so we might as well just let the have some.

    I hate insomnia.

  • http://twitter.com/firedup99 Charlotte Jones
  • HELENK2
  • http://twitter.com/firedup99 Charlotte Jones

    AND Stevens asked for more security from the State Dept and it was IGNORED. Stevens apparently even posted it on his Facebook page

  • HELENK2
  • HELENK2
    • nickoury

      Just one “girl’s” opinion?
      Wow, excellent viewpoint.
      Thanks, this is the first mention I’ve seen.

  • http://www.facebook.com/christian.halas Christian Halas

    Let’s face it, the REAL reason those al queda guys stormed the embassy is because they got advance notice that Mitt Romney was going to cut back funding to Big Bird. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

    • KenoshaMarge

      And we are supposed to be stupid enough to believe that.

      • HoosierinDixie

        I saw a comment on another blog that the OFA campaign is going to pivot to Dora The Explorer next week. snark/

        • KenoshaMarge

          Wouldn’t be at all surprised. /s

          What the hell is wrong with the POS POTUS?

          He’s the frakking President of the United States and the supposed Leader of the Free World and all he can talk about is “Big Bird?” What an ass!

          • HoosierinDixie

            What is sad is that they really think saving Big Bird is a winning strategy for the campaign.

            • KenoshaMarge

              Well according to rumors Obama also walked off the stage after the debate thinking he had won. Brilliant? I think not.

              • HoosierinDixie

                They say ignorance is bliss.

            • KenoshaMarge

              Which kind of tells you all you need to know about their mentality. Talk about no adults in the room!

    • randi

      It all makes sense now ;)

  • no_longer_a_democrat

    the barry soetero lsm will cover up for their lord barry. None of this will be shown, none of it will be cover by the useless pathetic media in this country. They are part of the coverup as well imho. watch, not one msm will cover this, not a single one. Useless garbage, the american msm.

    as for Hillary, lost every ounce of respect I had for the woman, and I voted for her, campaigned as hard as I could for her. No respect left for her. None.

    • Fred82

      I don’t the KGB could have done a better job of turning the MSM into agents of influence than what has already been done.

      The current MSM are largely political hacks that could care less about the American people, the United States, or keeping Washington DC honest.

    • JohnnyTwoDog

      They are working OT at it, 24/7.
      Spinning for OFA.
      I’d like a bowel Vanna, so I can crap out this turd. I may be a while. It’s gonna be messy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ryan-Holley/550626733 Ryan Holley

    I just want to add my sadness and disappointment over Hillary’s handling of this debacle. I really thought she would have been smart enough to provide extra security for our American heroes overseas on the anniversary of 9/11…. but no, not only did she fail to give Mr. Stevens and the seals the security needed to save their lives, she participated in the disgusting coverup.

    It saddens me to say it but I have lost so much respect for Mrs. Clinton.

    • getfitnow

      I’m sad about the lives lost and the cover up. It could have been any administration. But this is not the first time Hillary has not shown the courage to standup for what’s right. She’s just another dem to me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ryan-Holley/550626733 Ryan Holley

    Maybe this congressional hearing will be too damaging to the president and possibly too big of a story for the MSM to ignore.

    This COULD be an albatross around Obummer’s neck. Maybe his presidency is really toast this time.

    • JohnnyTwoDog

      It is to be to ignore, but they are going all out to spin damage control for Obama.

  • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

    And so, it begins.

    AP quotes anonymous State Dept. source: ‘We never said the video caused the riot…’
    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_US_LIBYA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-10-09-18-50-07

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      The careers (“we,” including Amb. Stevens) vs. the politicals (Hillary, Susan Rice). My bet is on the careers.

      • JohnnyTwoDog

        Cover your rear or lose your career.
        They are going to the vault for the get out of jail cards.

    • KenoshaMarge

      That dog ain’t gonna hunt.

  • Constance

    You know these same sort of accusations have been made for over a decade now about the events surrounding September 11, 2001 and the only thing there to go down in flames and turn into putrid ashes were the Twin Towers and their occupants. Does Newt Gingrich’s operation really think American voters are so stupid that they can’t see through the perverse, twisted propaganda of this bombshell video. Whatever these demons think they have on Hillary, I’d be willing to bet that she literally has much more explosive information to reveal about some of them. Maybe soon, Hillary, the time will be right to let loose. Compromise and backroom deals don’t seem to be working.

  • HELENK2
  • HELENK2

    of topic

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/10/09/team-obama-congratulates-
    bo-for-making-it-another-year-without-being-eaten-by-the-president/

    happy birthday BO. glad you made it through the year. but be careful, it is not that long to Thanksgiving and they pardon the turkey

  • I_cant_take_this

    There is no other story I find to be more scandalous than this one. But there are so many scandals/preposterous lies under this Golfer-in-chief that I must admit it is hard to remember all 20+ of them. But at the core of each is a toxic combination of extreme laziness, indifference, ignorance, incompetence, and narcissism that is killing this country. Each day, I can feel the soul being sucked out of this country a little more

    • KenoshaMarge

      And the MSM being part and parcel of the soul-sucking in the name of their damnable ideology.
      Seems “funny” to see Diane Sawyer actually “reporting” something that isn’t kissing Obama’s ass. Shame on her that it is “funny” or “unusual.” I for one will never trust any of the overpaid hacks again. Lying scum!

  • HELENK2

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/confirmed-spanish-firm-to-provide-overseas-military-ballots/

    something flaky here with the military ballot requests. Spanish firm providing them. This firm has been hacked before. Is it safe for personal information from our military to be in other than American hands??

    • I_cant_take_this

      Shocked no…disgusted yes.

  • HARP2

    BREAKING: Suffolk Polling Gives Florida, Virginia and North Carolina to ROMNEY – Will stop polling in these states!

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/suffolk-polling-yanks-workers-from-florida-north-carolina-and-virginia-gives-states-to-romney-video/

    • KenoshaMarge

      I had expected Virginia and North Caroline, but Florida is new and good news.

    • Dissentispatriotic

      This is a little strange. I can see NC but haven’t seen the evidence that either VA or FL is out of play. No other pollster is pulling out so I have to wonder if its a financial decision rather than truly political. As a resident of one of these states, I’d like more information.

  • I_cant_take_this

    If they admit to know nothing at the time of the attack what would make them say it was the video? What made them find and chose to even bring up the video in light of the attacks? They could have blamed anything else…it seems as if the whole thing was a prepared excuse in case the event happened. If this is the case then it means they knew about the likelihood of the event (we know they did already) and they are guilty CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE or even Murder. It almost smells like a state department HIT on the Ambassador.

    • HARP2

      Is it too late for them to run Jimmy Carter ?

      • TeakWoodKite

        That would be great since Carter is all for the voting rights requirement in Venzuela and thinks it’s better than ours. Finger print, National ID and signature of the voter.

    • DianaLC

      The timing with the Cairo embassy riot over the video is just so suspicious to me. Either they are so very stupid that they just thought what happened in Cairo was directly related to Benghazi, or they deliberately lied and thought we would be as stupid as they want us to be.
      My greatest concern is that the Morsi government allowed that scaling of the embassy walls as a an attempt to distract from what he knew was going to come down in Benghazi.

  • HARP2

    Obama went to the UN and lied to the whole world.

    And he has the nerve to call Romney a liar ???

    • http://twitter.com/M24Miles Montana Miles

      U.S. President Speaks to U.N. About YouTube Video Posted in June | CNSNews.com http://shar.es/5iY43 via @sharethis

    • http://MediaBlackoutExposed.blogspot.com/ WhiteHouseCoverUpClickHere

      Time to vote out Obama and put an end to his commie-unity organizing agenda…
      New World Order leaders have been exposed
      Obama Osama
      Biden BI nla DEN
      Americans are waking up to the truth and the media cover up..

  • HARP2

    The State dept said they never said the video was to blame.

    Jesus H ………we have the tapes of Hillary lying about it.

  • HELENK2

    does anyone know if the hearing will be on c-span?

    oh oh
    Greta starting off with State Department never linked the video to the attacks

    • Theymustbemorons

      It’s listed on their congressional chronicles page under the schedule tab for “Wednesday, October 10″ starting at 12:00 pm
      http://www.c-spanvideo.org/congress

      • HELENK2

        thank you

        • TeakWoodKite

          yes thanks, you save my fingers some typos.

    • JohnnyTwoDog

      I am so tired I thought your line asked, “Does anyone know if the Ocean is spinning?”
      I mean it could be, everthing is being spun 10-7 orders of magnitude. It could be affecting the tides and rotation of the Earth.

  • Retired_from_SPOnaj

    It looks like that 3am call that Obama took was from Hillary to advise him, “We’re fucked!”

    • I_cant_take_this

      Good one

  • Theymustbemorons
  • JohnnyTwoDog

    What is with the many scripts when I ope and close this site?

    • wylrae

      Good question, I am having the same problem. Haven’t paid attention though as to whether it is only being on this site.

  • Theymustbemorons
  • KataKimbe

    Truthful and very damaging.

  • Popsmoke

    The problem with this story is that its coming in way to close to the election and people are seeing this as just another political side show….unfortunately….

    • shelldoll2

      I respectfully disagree. Some if us are genuinely upset Americans were brutally murdered. We simply want answers and not a cover-up. I don’t know which party the slain were from and I don’t care.

      • Popsmoke

        With all due respect to you. I fully believe folk like you are rightfully upset. But I was talking about the rest of the zombies who vote who are politically brain dead or just do not know who or what to believe.

        • Theymustbemorons

          You both make good points. I only hope that when Mitt Romney confronts Barack Obama face-to-face over this outrage, it will be sufficient to wake up the brain dead. Meanwhile, Romney has taken the lead for the first time in the RCP averages poll.

          • TeakWoodKite

            Lizard brain humans only respond to basic agressive behavior. I will not concede that half this nation who are on food stamps and out of work, really do not understand the peril they are in if they vote for BO this time around.
            Most of all I want Winston back where F he was.

          • BettsAZ

            The only reason Romney was doing poorly before the debate is because the media had demonized him, while covering up for and glorifying Obama. The debate was the first time that a lot of Americans really “met” Romney.

            • Fred82

              I liked what I saw of Romney last week much more than what I had seen up until that point.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      How do you think the fact that the weapons that the jihadis used to attack the Consulate and the safehouse were actually provided by the U.S. government will strike the electorate? Too late before the election to make an impact? What if Romney brings this up in the final debate on foreign affairs? Way too late?

      • Popsmoke

        Actually I do not think many of those who are not politically active will give a shit. Besides my friend you bring up a twin edge sword. Even McCain and his Senate Jedi Knight brothers supported that move. Romney would have to blame his neocon advisors for this blunder..

        • Retired_from_SPOnaj

          Didn’t work out too well, did it? At least not for the three guys from the base that were killed by their own “trainees.” Of course, as the Fleet Marine Force manual says, “A commander is responsible for everything his command does or fails to do.” And there is only one commander that will be on the stage during the debate.

          • Popsmoke

            How true… or should I say if it always went by the manual and politics unlike the marines never follows the manual. But when you hang the commander you also take out his supporters. Hell even your old buddy Gerecht supported this stupidity. Guess the agency still does not get it…

            • Retired_from_SPOnaj

              It has been my experience that when Agency alumni get on TV, they run a severe risk of losing proper perspective on where they fit into the general scheme of things. Once this happens, they feel compelled to agree with premises that are stupid, but get them further exposure on TV. Pretty soon it becomes, “What can I say to get me on TV again?” Michael Scheuer is probably the poster boy for this pathetic deteriorative process, but he has been getting plenty of compentition as of late. Fortunately, none of my personal friends who are alumni have fallen for this–yet. But I’m still relatively young.
              Since I’ve mentioned Scheuer’s name, I can hear the massive jet turbine of Larry winding up, even out here from 3,000 miles away. Stand the f*** by.

              • Popsmoke

                LOL! Just mention Scheuer and watch Larry break the sound barrier with not having to jump out the hatch at 120k feet…
                The problem with Gerecht is he believed this crap long before he joined AEI.. Personally I think he was one of the reason why things pertaining to the ME got all screwed up at DO.

          • Popsmoke
            • Retired_from_SPOnaj

              Groat was a contemporary. I didn’t know him personally, but one of my classmates who did a career in the Shop knew him. If he had just been content to complain to his immediate boss and leave it at that, none of this would’ve happened. Why he chose to self-destruct is beyond me, but I’m sure that OMS has a study on it gathering dust somewhere.

              • Popsmoke

                Groat chose the wrong time for a crusade. Trust me I know about jumping into crusades best left alone. What puzzles me is why he went a bridge to far on that crusade? Ill also bet you that OMS has more than just one study gathering dust..

                • Retired_from_SPOnaj

                  Probably true, they have a CD-ROM on Rick Ames. The best joke that I heard at the time on Ames was, “And to think that we named a building after him, go figure.”

                  • Popsmoke

                    Well at least they will never forget him…

          • TeakWoodKite

            We know where the empty chair stands.

          • Fred82

            Well I think “trainees” is a bit of a stretch.

            Al Qaida largely came up with a pretty good training methodology and solid training curriculums on their own. All of the experience that they have gained over the years doesn’t hurt either.

            That said, I see your point. The enemy of our enemy is not always our friend in the Middle East.

            • Retired_from_SPOnaj

              Actually, they weren’t really AQ, but they were like-minded takfiris. And with takfiris, if you’re not a takfiri yourself, you are, by definition, the enemy. In fact, among takfiris, even some other takfiris may be considered to be takfir. They are, by just about everyone’s standard, nuts.

              • Fred82

                I don’t know.

                If AQ wasn’t actively involved in the attack, I would think it quite possible that AQ trained those who carried out the attack.

                And I wouldn’t say AQ is nuts. Some of the Wahhabis, Qutbists, and Takfiris certainly are but I haven’t seen that with AQ. They are fanatical, brutal, and totally buy the whole end justifies the means philosophy. However, they have shown a truly pragmatic side in some of their dealings with other entities.

                I found some of the AQ leaders’ thoughts on strategy to be quite sophisticated and well versed. That and I would say that bonafide AQ members are much smarter and more rational than say, Valerie Jarrett.

      • TeakWoodKite

        This must be “illuminated” by Romney in the debate. Obama must be crappin his boxers. (ewww) at the thought of havin’ to ‘splain this to 60 million viewing Americans. Romney doesn’t have to do much other than point out the deadly obvious blunder-wonder Obama.
        I hope the hell he does Retired_from_SPOnaj. Gun running to drug cartels and to Libyan jhadists, is quite the robust under pinnings of a robust Foriegn Policy.

    • DianaLC

      You really do underestimate the American citizens.

      • Popsmoke

        Well if the last few elections are any examples…

  • Dave L.

    If the MSM continues to hide this story, it will not bode well for the fuckup-in-chief.. I think that the rats are soon going to start leaving the sinking, stinking ship. This unfit, incapable, idiotic asshat, has finally skewered himself. If they had told the truth from the beginning, this would have been laid to rest, but, the lying has brought much more incompetence to light,.. Way to go Barkey, you have once again driven more nails in your coffin. I bet that plantation in Hawaii is looking pretty good right about now, huh ???

    • Hokma

      They will not be able to hide it.

      The third debate will be foreign policy and this cover up will be front and center – - – Romney will make sure of that – - – and Obama will have no answers.

      I never thought I would ever see an American President as inompetent with such a corrupt administration as this one.

      • HObama HObamanana

        By the time of the third debate the usually reliable Obama media surrogates will have so much damaging info out and about that O have little chance of remaining on the stage with Romney after the press gets done pummeling him.

      • getfitnow

        And did you see—-Pelosi is beside herself that the GOP want to have hearings, saying they are back at work and should be dealing with, blah, blah, blah. Apparently another attack on this country (and it was) is not worth the time to investigate.

        These people make me sick.

        • KenoshaMarge

          Pelosi is a disgusting, dishonest, corrupt digrace. Women like her are why I will never vote by gender. I want the best people.

    • KataKimbe

      LOL… how do you REALLY feel?

    • KenoshaMarge

      The departure of the rats has all ready begun…
      Politico, NBC, ABC, MSNBC Criticize Team Obama’s ‘Absurd’ Big Bird Ad
      At the same time Team Obama released a childish ad hitting Mitt Romney for daring to consider removing multimillionaire, one-percenter Big Bird from the federal government welfare rolls, the Romney campaign released a devastating graphic that shows that, since his debate debacle, Barack Obama has mentioned Big Bird and Elmo 13 times but has not mentioned Libya or his plan to fix the economy even once.
      A media that is obviously disappointed with Their Precious One’s debate performance and recent collapse in the polls is not at all happy with this silly and stupid Big Bird attack. Politico criticized the ad as small ball, NBC News described it as “absurd,” and ABC’s Rick Klein seems confused by the desperate smallness of it:
      Team Obama makes a play using … Big Bird? The new Obama campaign ad uses a mock-serious tone to jump on Mitt Romney’s most famous debate line. It’s all in good fun, but the contrast may not be what President Obama is after, not now, not in this race. Romney is getting more serious by the day, with a foreign-policy speech and now Paul Ryan about to make the case for conservative fiscal policies. Romney marches toward Benghazi, while the president marches down Sesame Street?
      Even MSNBC’s Chuck Todd criticized the ad: “When is the Obama campaign going to stop talking about the debate? … They cannot seem to turn the page from the debate. … Any conversation about that debate, I assume, helps Mitt Romney.”
      more: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/09/media-Backlash-Against-Big-Bird-Ad

  • getfitnow
    • Hokma

      Another lie.

      He took over Bush’s path to exit and then screwed it up.

      Bush had won the war and eventually won the peace.
      Obama lost it all.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      Not “ended,” rear-ended. He was leading from behind.

      • MG6

        Obama’s favorite place…..

        • HObama HObamanana

          Good thing Michelle has a big ass.

          • getfitnow

            Stop it!

  • getfitnow

    I think he and Ryan will do it. Probably
    chomping at the bit.

    These fools really think we’re stupid.
    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_US_LIBYA?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=

    It reminds me of another article I read today that said Obama really thinks he won the debate. WTF!?!

    • KataKimbe

      I hope you are right.

      • getfitnow

        Me too. Let’s not forget, Ryan cleaned Obama’s clock re: healthcare. In fact, before the debate I saw comments wishing Ryan were debating That One. No one expected Romney to be so brilliant and elegant while demolishing Obama at the same time.

  • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

    The thing I liked best about this ad is the chronology of denial laid out for all to see. But I have to admit; what I liked second best, was the prominent display of David Axelrod with his protege, Barack Obama. I would bet right about now, even our Governor, Deval Patrick, is breathing a sigh of relief that his was Mr. Axelrod’s failed prototypical dry run into the WH.

    • Hokma

      Axelrod is without question the dirtiest political operative we have.

      I also believe that if they ever strip away the onion on this they will find Axelrod calling the politial shots long with Jarrett on issues regarding the release of national security secrets for political gain and this botched cover up.

      • TeakWoodKite

        Where is the line between dirty and illegal?

  • elizabethrc

    Tonight on Bret Baier they discussed this situation, likening it to something far worse than Watergate and pointing out that the public are not outraged by this because it has been kept on page 17 of the likes of the NYT, MSNBC, etc.
    Our country is at risk and yet no one shouts it from rooftops? It’s going to have to be Romney who wakes people up in his speeches and the upcoming debates. He will be doing a service to the citizens which should cement his place in history.

    • Hokma

      Watergate was about the cover up of a botched second rate burglary of the DNC headquarters.

      Benghazi-agte is about the cover up of a terrorst act that killed an American ambassador and three other Americans and it was being done for political reasons.

      The latter is far worse an offense and justifies impeachment of Obama.

      • I_cant_take_this

        I 100% agree with you. Impeachment for gross incompetence or treason would be orgasmic.

        • TeakWoodKite

          Sadly, his acts of negligent homicide will not bring the 4 murdered Americans back to their loved ones. Orgasmic or not.

          • TeakWoodKite

            My my. Some human gave this comment a thumbs down?

      • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

        Benghazi is also about the media cover-up. The media is complicit.

      • elizabethrc

        There’s too little time for impeachment. Not being a lawyer, I have to ask if charges can still be brought in court after he’s out of office?

        • FLDemFem

          Yes, he can be impeached after he leaves office. If he is convicted, he will lose his pension, any taxpayer money to be spent on his office and library, he will not be allowed to hold any office, elected or appointed, that is paid for by taxpayers. And he can face jail time if the Justice Dept. decides to prosecute after the impeachment conviction. The actual impeachment and conviction is done by Congress and the follow-up charges brought by the Justice Dept. would be based on that conviction.

          • elizabethrc

            That is reassuring. The problem remains that, like so much wrongdoing in the past, Congress is prone to just let it slide because there would be “too much upset” to the system. In the process of that sort of reaction, they ARE upsetting the system.

          • 8true8

            Trouble is … he has many many plans for us before he leaves office … he will be pounding in the final nails in our coffin. Will it be too late?

    • BettsAZ

      Can’t wait for the foreign policy debate…by that time this whole Benghazi fiasco will be at full speed. I think Romney will throw the whole thing in Obama’s lying face. He’s already mentioned at one of his rallies about the message for Putin about “flexibility” after the election.

      • getfitnow

        Romney’s foreign policy speech this week and this set the stage for another shellacking of the—he’s not even a chair–he’s a stool.

        • HObama HObamanana

          He is definitely a stool sample.

    • http://lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com/ Canaan

      In the Watergate-Pentagon Papers era, the NY Times fought tooth-and-nail not be suppressed by Nixon.

      Today the NY Times is a Pravda brothel servicing the White House, compliant like desperate crack whores. What, is Obama teasing them with the crack pipe just out of reach, leading them around on their knees with a leash and a dog collar? “Lick it up, NY Times, I’m the President!”

      • elizabethrc

        Very short sighted of them. Their boy is going to be gone and then what are they going to do?
        I doubt they will be anything but another online newspaper soon, their print operation closed down for lack of interest.
        The Times should be ashamed of having destroyed what was once a great paper.

    • KenoshaMarge

      What struck me was that when Brett Baier talked about the “breaking news” it was Kirsten Powers who seemed the most irate that FOX News had been excluded from the conference call that informed the other media. She said, and I’m not sure of the actual wording that it was because FOX News was the only organization that had actually been asking the “tough” questions.

      • HObama HObamanana

        You know, for a self-professed “liberal” she certainly does a very good impression of a level headed moderate.

        • tom smith

          She is an example of what Democrats were long ago, before the party was hijacked.

        • KenoshaMarge

          While her basic ideology and mine are miles apart it’s good to see someone from the left, who is a media type, showing some integrity. Makes it possible for me to feel a little better about myself for being a Democrat for so many years.

          • 8true8

            Maybe Kristen saw the movie 2016 … and she’s now awake! She has been very outspoken recently.

      • elizabethrc

        It’s been very gratifying to watch Kirsten’s transformation. When I first started watching her, she was a typical Democrat leaning pundit, was argumentative and dismissive. The change in her opinions shows that my earlier low opinion of her was too quick a judgment. She has principles and integrity. She may never call herself a Conservative, but she’s headed in the right direction and really, what do labels really matter?!

        • KenoshaMarge

          Glad you mentioned it because I thought there had been some change in her but wasn’t sure. Don’t expect a transformation into a conservative but a moderate Dem, so long as it’s an honest one, is fine with me.

          • elizabethrc

            I think it’s a trend among the msm. They can’t hide their disappointment in their “Messiah” any longer.
            Speaking of Messiahs, an email I got this am was worth investigation: It came from Vision To America News. It states, along with supporting photos, that the wedding ring Obama wears is one he has worn since his student days (and ever since) at Occidental. and is the one Michelle put on his finger (again) at their marriage. The inscription, according to the article, again with closeup pictures say: There Is No God But Allah. The article goes on to explain that those who wear it show that they are Islamists.
            I sent the link to Breitbart. I hope, if true, it goes viral, especially since Obama just said that he is a Christian! Is there nothing this man will not lie about?!!! The photos are pretty convincing, as is the accompanying text.

            • HObama HObamanana

              Michelle would actually look better in a burqa.

              /snark