Comments on: And now for something completely different – an American composer http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/7347/and-now-for-something-completely-different-an-american-composer/ Sun, 27 May 2012 12:54:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: workingclass artist http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/7347/and-now-for-something-completely-different-an-american-composer/#comment-1072001 workingclass artist Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:22:46 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=7347#comment-1072001 <strong>OH BROTHER!...( eye roll...shrug...)</strong> OH BROTHER!…( eye roll…shrug…)

]]> By: Old Grumpy Guy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/7347/and-now-for-something-completely-different-an-american-composer/#comment-1071723 Old Grumpy Guy Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:02:26 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=7347#comment-1071723 ok, you win (sigh) ok, you win (sigh)

]]> By: socalannie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/7347/and-now-for-something-completely-different-an-american-composer/#comment-1071694 socalannie Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:31:35 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=7347#comment-1071694 Nice! Nice!

]]> By: JozefAL http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/7347/and-now-for-something-completely-different-an-american-composer/#comment-1071683 JozefAL Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:16:17 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=7347#comment-1071683 If you're referring to me about the "lecture", well I'm happy to accept the chiding. One's being English or not is not a defense for mangling the language. (In point of fact, one would think that being English would demand the correct usage, especially with pronouns.) At least OGG didn't confuse "fewer" and "less" in the portion that I was able to hear. (That is one of my major bugaboos.) I'm happy to ignore the usual hoopla over prepositions or split infinitives (those little "rules" are proof that SOME "British gentlemen" have no business in developing rules of syntax). If you’re referring to me about the “lecture”, well I’m happy to accept the chiding. One’s being English or not is not a defense for mangling the language. (In point of fact, one would think that being English would demand the correct usage, especially with pronouns.)
At least OGG didn’t confuse “fewer” and “less” in the portion that I was able to hear. (That is one of my major bugaboos.)
I’m happy to ignore the usual hoopla over prepositions or split infinitives (those little “rules” are proof that SOME “British gentlemen” have no business in developing rules of syntax).

]]> By: JozefAL http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/7347/and-now-for-something-completely-different-an-american-composer/#comment-1071671 JozefAL Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:05:21 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=7347#comment-1071671 That, I would point out, is a made-up word, specifically designed to rhyme with "Georgy". The use of the character's name in "Porgy and Bess" is a nickname that comes from a type of fish. From the Merriam-Webster online dictionary: 1 : a blue-spotted crimson food fish (Pagrus pagrus of the family Sparidae) of the eastern and western Atlantic ; also : any of various fishes of the same family 2 [alteration of pogy] : any of various bony fishes (as a menhaden) of families other than that of the porgy Aside from that, listen to Nina Simone's absolutely gorgeous rendition of "I Loves You, Porgy" (1959, US #18 pop, #2 R&B) and you'll notice that she's definitely using the hard "g". Or, if you find Simone to be unworthy, try Lady Day--Billie Holiday's version used the hard "g". Even Diana Ross's take (from the <em>Blue</em> CD--originally recorded at the time she did <em>Lady Sings the Blues</em> but only released a couple of years ago) uses the hard "g". Barbra Streisand (on her <em>The Broadway Album</em> recording) gave the hard "g" and she's been known to request changes (even from the original composers like Stephen Sondheim and Andrew Lloyd Webber) be made to songs to better suit her style. This is NOT a case of "take your pick". (Somehow, I don't think you'd be as accepting of someone saying Wag-ner, instead of Vahg-ner. There's no real difference in the situations.) That, I would point out, is a made-up word, specifically designed to rhyme with “Georgy”.
The use of the character’s name in “Porgy and Bess” is a nickname that comes from a type of fish.
From the Merriam-Webster online dictionary:
1 : a blue-spotted crimson food fish (Pagrus pagrus of the family Sparidae) of the eastern and western Atlantic ; also : any of various fishes of the same family
2 [alteration of pogy] : any of various bony fishes (as a menhaden) of families other than that of the porgy

Aside from that, listen to Nina Simone’s absolutely gorgeous rendition of “I Loves You, Porgy” (1959, US #18 pop, #2 R&B) and you’ll notice that she’s definitely using the hard “g”. Or, if you find Simone to be unworthy, try Lady Day–Billie Holiday’s version used the hard “g”. Even Diana Ross’s take (from the Blue CD–originally recorded at the time she did Lady Sings the Blues but only released a couple of years ago) uses the hard “g”. Barbra Streisand (on her The Broadway Album recording) gave the hard “g” and she’s been known to request changes (even from the original composers like Stephen Sondheim and Andrew Lloyd Webber) be made to songs to better suit her style.
This is NOT a case of “take your pick”. (Somehow, I don’t think you’d be as accepting of someone saying Wag-ner, instead of Vahg-ner. There’s no real difference in the situations.)

]]> By: rw http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/7347/and-now-for-something-completely-different-an-american-composer/#comment-1071596 rw Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:59:14 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=7347#comment-1071596 it's the rhythmic crescendo....the peak of a gradual increase. it’s the rhythmic crescendo….the peak of a gradual increase.

]]> By: socalannie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/7347/and-now-for-something-completely-different-an-american-composer/#comment-1071583 socalannie Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:46:17 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=7347#comment-1071583 Completely agree with your remarks about Ravel. Enjoyed this piece, OGG, thank you. Bring on No. 7! Completely agree with your remarks about Ravel. Enjoyed this piece, OGG, thank you. Bring on No. 7!

]]> By: socalannie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/7347/and-now-for-something-completely-different-an-american-composer/#comment-1071576 socalannie Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:39:58 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=7347#comment-1071576 Love George Gershwin. My mother played classical music for us when we were young, and Gershwin was one of her favorites. Listening to his music reminds me of my happy childhood...wish I could go back! Love George Gershwin. My mother played classical music for us when we were young, and Gershwin was one of her favorites. Listening to his music reminds me of my happy childhood…wish I could go back!

]]> By: workingclass artist http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/7347/and-now-for-something-completely-different-an-american-composer/#comment-1071341 workingclass artist Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:46:16 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=7347#comment-1071341 Ditto...I suspected it would be Gershwin. Thanks Grump an excellent choice and if he had lived longer...Oh well it is astonishing what he did...and died so young. Thanks...I look forward to the next installment. Ditto…I suspected it would be Gershwin. Thanks Grump an excellent choice and if he had lived longer…Oh well it is astonishing what he did…and died so young. Thanks…I look forward to the next installment.

]]> By: bert http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/7347/and-now-for-something-completely-different-an-american-composer/#comment-1070793 bert Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:48:03 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=7347#comment-1070793 That is American 'culture', OGG, I guess. I am not saying I understand or even agree. I am just reporting. Maybe they were having fantasis of Bo naked when they heard the music. I don't know. Never tried it myself. That is American ‘culture’, OGG, I guess. I am not saying I understand or even agree. I am just reporting. Maybe they were having fantasis of Bo naked when they heard the music. I don’t know. Never tried it myself.

]]> By: bert http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/7347/and-now-for-something-completely-different-an-american-composer/#comment-1070785 bert Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:45:15 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=7347#comment-1070785 You are correct, andrew191. I got the two mixed up. You are correct, andrew191. I got the two mixed up.

]]> By: Ferd Berfle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/7347/and-now-for-something-completely-different-an-american-composer/#comment-1070783 Ferd Berfle Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:44:05 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=7347#comment-1070783 <em>Burnt Weenie Sandwich</em> Burnt Weenie Sandwich

]]> By: Old Grumpy Guy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/7347/and-now-for-something-completely-different-an-american-composer/#comment-1070780 Old Grumpy Guy Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:42:11 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=7347#comment-1070780 No, I cannot turn my back on my American friends. I feel it is my duty to save civilization and bring culture to the unwashed masses. No, I cannot turn my back on my American friends. I feel it is my duty to save civilization and bring culture to the unwashed masses.

]]> By: Old Grumpy Guy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/7347/and-now-for-something-completely-different-an-american-composer/#comment-1070773 Old Grumpy Guy Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:39:49 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=7347#comment-1070773 Cole Porter was a great SONGWRITER. I'm not dealing with songwriters. He was not a composer like Gershwin. Sheesh. Cole Porter was a great SONGWRITER. I’m not dealing with songwriters. He was not a composer like Gershwin. Sheesh.

]]> By: Old Grumpy Guy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/7347/and-now-for-something-completely-different-an-american-composer/#comment-1070769 Old Grumpy Guy Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:37:43 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=7347#comment-1070769 yes, I knew about the movie connection, but I still don't see why anyone would think it is great music to make love to. yes, I knew about the movie connection, but I still don’t see why anyone would think it is great music to make love to.

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