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Obama’s Libya Lie

* Bumped Up *

Obama’s delusion about what he said in the Rose Garden on 11 September, 2012 persists, but facts are facts. He did not refer to the attack in Benghazi as an act of terror. Instead, he spoke in generic terms about America’s reaction to the September 2001 attacks. Here’s the relevant portion of the transcript:

Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.

As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

But let’s be generous. Let’s concede that Obama made a generic, backhand reference to terrorism. If he genuinely thought it a terrorist attack, why did he all his UN Ambassador to declare that it was not terrorism?

Here is the transcript from Susan Rice’s lie fest at ABC:

TAPPER: So, first of all, what is the latest you can tell us on who these attackers were at the embassy or at the consulate in Benghazi? We’re hearing that the Libyans have arrested people. They’re saying that some people involved were from outside the country, that there might have even been Al Qaida ties. What’s the latest information?

RICE: Well, Jake, first of all, it’s important to know that there’s an FBI investigation that has begun and will take some time to be completed. That will tell us with certainty what transpired.

But our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous — not a premeditated — response to what had transpired in Cairo. In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated.

We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to — or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo. And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons, weapons that as you know in — in the wake of the revolution in Libya are — are quite common and accessible. And it then evolved from there.

We’ll wait to see exactly what the investigation finally confirms, but that’s the best information we have at present.

Tapper correctly noted that reports from Libya indicated the attack was carried out by a group with ties to Al Qaeda. But Rice disagreed. She insisted that it was inspired by a video and carried out by a flash mob.

A few days later, Obama’s on The View and is given a softball chance to define Benghazi as an Al Qaeda terrorist strike. He punted:

He was still talking about the video even though State Department had told the President on the 12th of September, 2012 that the attack was an organized strike and had nothing to do with the video.

It is not enough to admit that this was just a “terrorist attack.” Despite Obama’s prior insistence that he killed Bin Laden and Al Qaeda is on the run, it turns out Al Qaeda still had the ability to kick our ass in Benghazi.

The shameful, disgraceful thing about Obama is that in the immediate aftermath of the attack he left Washington, DC to go fund raising rather than stay on the job and ensure the FBI could get into Benghazi to conduct the investigation. Obama did nothing to facilitate their deployment. On this point both Hillary and Obama share blame. Neither did their job to get the FBI into Libya in a timely manner. Such is the dearth of ledership by Barack Obama.

  • Popsmoke
  • Hokma

    According to the latest Gallup survey, Mitt Romney is polling 52% of likely voters. At this point in the race he is ahead of:

    Where Jimmy Carter was in 1976 (47%)

    Where Ronald Reagan was in 1980 (39% — Carter was six points up)

    Where George H.W. Bush was in 1988 (50%)

    Where Bill Clinton was in 1992 (40%)

    Where George W. Bush was in 2000 (48%)

    Where Barack Obama was in 2008 (49%)

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/oct/18/romney-outpolling-carter-reagan-bush-i-clinton-bus/#.UICIgR1svzI.facebook

  • HELENK2

    http://floppingaces.net/2012/10/19/obama-clarke-on-libya-just-shameful/

    this guy pulls no punches on the backtrack failure in Libya

    • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

      I read the whole thing. Great essay.

    • Hokma

      Clark has been a tool of the left. And just to better clarify an urban legend:

      “If Sen. John Kerry is a decorated war hero and your guy avoided going toVietnam, then attack Kerry’s service record.”

      Bush was a fighter pilot in the Guard. And if you do not think that it is dangerous then look at Dean Martin’s son Dino who lost his life flying one of them.

      As far as Kerry. At the time when Kerry was eligiable for service they were taking everyone to rapidly build a force. Kerry selected Swift Boat service because at the time he selected it they were basically patrolling the coast, did not face danger, and were not involved in any battles.

      However that changed when he got his commission and found out that he would be seeing action.

      As far a those 3 purple hearts, others have recounted how suspicious they were – especially when you consider that when you got three it meant automaticly you would be shipped back home.

      Why the swift boat veterans came after Kerry had nothing to do with anything he did aboard those boats. It was to do with his leadership regarding the winter soldiers and his slanderous testimory before Congress when he turned against his fellow soldiers.

  • Dissentispatriotic

    Fox has received scads of documents and communications from State and CIA that leave no doubt about the cries for help. On the day he was murdered, Ambassador Stephens wrote of need for security and deteriorating conditions due to militants. There is a special tonight by Bret Baier on the Libya debacle and the documents just dumped today will be included. Shows at 10.

  • Dissentispatriotic

    Fox has received scads of documents and communications from State and CIA that leave no doubt about the cries for help. On the day he was murdered, Ambassador Stephens wrote of need for security and deteriorating conditions due to militants. There is a special tonight by Bret Baier on the Libya debacle and the documents just dumped today will be included. Shows at 10.

    • Popsmoke

      Darrell Issa playing politics… this coming form a guy who’s claim to fame was making his money selling home security systems.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Who gives a shit if he is playing politics or being a loyal patriot? It’s about time we, the American people, had an opportunity to see for ourselves what really happened and why. Obama and his clan are the ones playing politics with the truth.

        • Popsmoke

          I give a shit and so should you and anyone else. Issa has no moral high ground and is no patriot in my book. Just another rich guy playing a patriot.
          I am not going to support Obama nor Hillary here either. But the games and half truths on both sides of the isle have to stop.
          This is a republican and democrat twin edge sword. This lack of protection issue is bullshit. Both parties hold responsibility for that.
          The issue here is a policy of arming jihadis we think we can control when we are clueless to that issue and get bit time and time again.
          We have MANPADS we supplied jihadis that can really sting our asses if we do not recover them.
          That is the issue that the car alarm salesman is not talking about….

          • HObama HObamanana

            Last I checked, the Democrat party was in charge of the White House. So national security and consulate security are their responsibility, not the Republicans. As to your other point, you won’t find an advocate of arming jihadis in me. In my opinion it is one of the absolute stupidest things we could be doing, and history has proven this to be the case.

            • Popsmoke

              Yes you are correct and congress is in charge of the m o n e y….

              • HObama HObamanana

                Thank you for the linked document. Wish there was something more current but I expect that the same problems exist to this day. But none of this excuses why Ambassador Stevens was denied the security he requested and sincerely believed that he needed. And according to what I have read from the State Department, no budget cuts would have stopped the security requests from flowing freely had they been deigned worthwhile.

                Yes, Congress controls the purse-strings but only a President can accept and sign such controls into law.

      • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

        Joe,
        Your head is squarely up your ass. Issa is doing what a legislator should do. Stop being a dick.

        • Popsmoke

          Larry
          My head up my ass? What the hell has Issa done? Hold a out of session hearing? BFD! You best remember my friend. Like you I have spent a ton of time on the hill involved with foreign relations and security related committees to know a political show when I see one. Matter of fact i f I have my head up my ass on this issue so does Bob Bair and Pat Lang whoo seem to agree that Issa is play politics just before the election to keep the pressure on and the news cycle spinning.
          Senate and House intel and of course Pickering is what I am watching not some freshman congressman who made his money selling car alarms and did not know the difference between sunni and shia.
          You my friend know me better than this…

          • HObama HObamanana

            If Issa and others do not keep the pressure on and the news cycle spinning the story will be buried like it nearly was from the start due to the ever obliging Obama media supplicant sycophants.

            Obama and his allies are the ones playing politics here. They have been from the beginning. Not to mention, pointing fingers and placing blame elsewhere.

            • Popsmoke

              Look its like this. The two intel and foreign relation committees are the ones with the juice. Issa is a rookie at this and is doing nothing more than causing the finger point and smoke screens to start. I want real investigation and answers not a political circus.
              This is serious shit…

              PS: Not much has changed since that report and if the president was as worried as he said he was, why then was the money for protection not worth the political capital to fight for?

              • HObama HObamanana

                I seriously doubt that there will be any real revelations of what took place by Congress. To do so would reveal the true nature of our actions in Libya and neither side really wants that info out in the public. Most Americans would object to such activities, as should anyone with any real common sense whatsoever. Until Obama fesses up, I fully support everything Issa is doing, even if he is an ass.

  • HELENK2

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/10/mother-of-murdered-diplomat-slams-obamas-not-optimal.php

    Mother of murdered diplomat slams backtrack for not optimal comment

  • HELENK2

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/CIA-libya-attacks-militants/2012/10/19/id/460618

    CIA told DC within 24 hours it was a militant attack in benghazi

  • Popsmoke
    • HELENK2

      it is a good thing to see what people have learned through life is put to good use. Using your knowledge to live in the now and not in the what I used to be is always good

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      Ren is a good guy. I know him well.

  • HELENK2

    http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/10/19/short-video-documentary-details-libya-terrorist-threats-amb-stevens-interview-in-june-2012/

    video documentary details libya terrorist threats
    Ambassador Stevens interview in June 2012

  • HELENK2

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/19/mcclatchy-obama-admin-changed-story-on-benghazi-to-blame-video-3-days-after-attack/

    brought this up from the open thread

    backtrack bunch changes story 3 days after the attack

  • HObama HObamanana

    I think it is a political tactical mistake to go after Obama on this, this way. Let Obama have the line that he called it an act of terror. Make him own it. Now ask him if indeed he knew it was an act of terror from the start why did he jet off to a campaign fundraiser? Ask him why, if he knew it was an act of terror from the start, did he send Susan Rice onto 5 separate media outlets to deny that truth? Ask him why, if he knew it was an act of terror from the start, did he refuse to call it that on Letterman, Univision and The View? Ask him why, if he knew it was an act of terror from the start, didn’t he assemble his national security team to get to the bottom of who was responsible and why didn’t he place the requisite pressure on the Libyan government (that he made possible) to allow the FBI to the sites in Benghazi before all of the evidence was lost, stolen or destroyed? And ask him if campaigning for a potential future term in office is more important than fulfilling the responsibilities of his current term in office. Because that is exactly what he has done and how he has responded to these attacks.

    • Popsmoke

      Yep Romney is going to have a problem backtracking on his statement of sharing values with those… jihadis… I mean rebels…

      • HObama HObamanana

        Nothing we do in Syria will benefit us in the long term. The Sunnis are more than willing to have us fight their wars for them. They are not our friends. They are not our allies. And I DO NOT agree with Romney that we should be getting involved in this conflict. Obama pretends as if we are not involved in the conflict and that it is Mitt Romney that is advocating another war. The truth is that we are involved in this war and have been for some time under Obama’s leadership.

  • Popsmoke
  • Popsmoke

    Amazing and sad…. Well at least another sick person off the street… But terrorism?

    http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/13263-fbi-celebrates-foiling-its-own-terror-plot-again

  • Theymustbemorons

    Off topic/on topic/just a little gossip? Who the hell knows but in the photo accompanying this article, Gloria reminds me of Leona Helmsley:
    “Is Drudge On To Something? Gloria Allred Refuses to Comment on Mitt Romney ‘October Surprise’ Speculation”
    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/gloria-allred-mitt-romney-matt-drudge

    • nickoury

      Nothing on drudge even as a developing story.

      • Theymustbemorons

        Drudge put it on Twitter. Just a one liner.
        https://twitter.com/DRUDGE

      • http://www.facebook.com/mary.cusack Mary Cusack

        oh no. her claims may be bullshit but people believe them. go to hell alred.

      • Popsmoke

        Wonder when Drudge is going to come out of the closet?

  • Popsmoke

    Here is another and some what different take on Benghazi by Jeff Stein. Stein was both a shooter and spook. Read both his article and comments. He adds to the discussion…

    http://spytalkblog.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-benghazi-debacle-fubar.html?m=1

    • JohnnyTwoDog

      Oh sure. Now it’s Army’s fault. ABO – Anybody but Obama’s fault.
      I need to meet Jeff Stein. He obviously must still have a stash of that wonderful Thai Stick. Come on Jeff! Share with everyone!

      • Popsmoke

        Nothing he wrote is off the wall and he does say the administration need to be held accountable.

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      He was not a spook. Stop kidding yourself.

      • Popsmoke

        Yes he was not agency but US Army Intelligence in VN.. He is a been there done that type of guy. Yes he seems to be an apologist but he does bring up some good points. No one can just brush the guy off as a rogue liberal Obama nutcase…

  • DianaLC

    I just received my first Obama call here in CO. I’ve been off CO’s list of Dems since ’08, so I’m not sure how they got my number. It was so much fun to say emphatically: “You can count on me never ever to vote for Obama, just as I never did in the past.”

    • Theymustbemorons

      :-)

  • Popsmoke
    • HELENK2

      10 days

  • Theymustbemorons

    Obama speaking now at Al Smith Dinner. He has some funny lines but he seems pissed, even as he laughs.

    • DianaLC

      Mitt’s speech was absolutely hilarious and perfectly presented by Mitt. I couldn’t make myself suffer to nausea I feel every time I hear Obummer’s voice and his monotonous delivery.
      One of Mitt’s great lines in his speech—and there were many–was something like this: “I can see the headlines tomorrow. Catholics embrace Obama; Mitt dines with rich people.”

      • KenoshaMarge

        Great line!

  • MG6

    More on lies regarding the peaceful Islam’s history…

    http://www.politicalislam.com/tears/pages/tears-of-jihad/

    Thomas Sowell points out that slavery was done by the Islamic nations. The Arabs didn’t abolish or “free” their laves until 1960′s. There were more slaves heading toward Islamic nation then to the new world.

  • Popsmoke

    Man I just wish someone would get to the bottom of this and stop the smoke screen.

    • nickoury

      Exactly.
      When does someone, anyone, in this dim witted bunch of self-serving losers, start working for the interests of the United States, not a “never gonna’ happen in your lifetime” Presidential re-election or a pie-in -the-sky future election?
      I’ll tell you when.
      January 20,2013, after the Romney/ Ryan inauguration.
      And, unfortunately, not a day sooner.

  • Theymustbemorons

    Romney is rockin’ the Al Smith Dinner!

  • elizabethrc

    Talk about compounding his lies! I truly do not believe he remembers what he said yesterday. He can be factually corrected on one of his statements and the next day, he says the same thing again as though no one corrected him. There is a pathology about this man. Not being a psychologist, I can go no further, but I do know that for one to lie so blatantly, so carelessly indicates a disdain so profound for others that it’s a bit frightening. His compulsions are pretty strong and he obviously thinks he just fine, thank you very much. That’s not what he’s showing the American people and the polls are reflecting a certain, final disbelief in him, in his words, in his intentions. Isn’t it about time?

    • Theymustbemorons

      I agree with you. He lies so blatantly. He is an artist with this. And yes, he does have a profound disdain for others. It’s very clear in the debates and in his response to Romney. It’s scary. And what’s scarier to me is that if this country was in better shape economically and if people who wanted to work had decent jobs, this guy would easily get a second term. Not since Hitler has a political figure been able to bull***t so many people and gain such power.

      • nickoury

        Is this where we begin to have a few grains of respect for Nixon, even if he left under duress still holding back any remorse?

        • Theymustbemorons

          Or maybe when he didn’t challenge the 1960 election results in spite of those dead folks who voted from an Illinois cemetery? Even JFK was quoted as saying to his brother that he (JFK) would have challenged the results.

    • DianaLC

      If you’ve ever had to deal on a personal level with a narcissist, that lying and believing his lies even after someone gives proof that he lied is a dead giveaway. It’s maddening because whenever a third party is involved and doesn’t have any history to go on, it’s often the liar who is believed because the one who knows the other is lying becomes so frustrated that the third party thinks he/she is out of control or something.
      Yes, it takes time for such a person to be recognized for what he is. In this case, so many have so much skin in the game, as the saying goes, that it’s just very hard for them to admit that they had such bad judgment about that liar. But, I do agree that ii’s about time people are waking up to the reality of the empty chair in the WH.

    • KenoshaMarge

      He doesn’t care what he says. He had been able to count on the MSM to cover his ass since he first came on the scene. Why bother with the truth when whatever you say is hailed as truth and whatever your opponent says is spun, distorted, ignored or lied about.

      Remember that for the first week after the death of 4 Americans in Benghazi all the media wanted to talk about, and wrote about and obsessed about was what Mitt Romney had said and how he had politicized the killings.

      So once again, for a whole week, Obama was free to prance around with his celebrity pals, fund raise and lie his skinny ass off. All thanks to the corrupt media in this country. The founders of PRAVDA would be so proud.

  • jemblue

    Does the Al-Qaeda flag still fly over the burned-out wreckage of our embassy? I’m amazed at how the media has downplayed the symbolism there.

    • nickoury

      I thought that flag was appropriately representative of most of the existing media.

  • JohnnyTwoDog

    I agree Larry.

    Obama was intentionally vague in the Rose garden
    But Romney pressured “both Ways Barack” to claim he said terrorism during the last debate, and doubled down asking his skirt Crowley for the transcript to prove it.
    While trotting out Susan Rice and others to sell the lame video story.

    Romney will lay out the chronological farce that it was.
    Also agree Obama and Clinton made it worse by the total non response.

    Romney will be making Obama eat that debate steno tape.

    • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      Hopefully.

  • TeakWoodKite

    For the record:
    He visted Walter Reed ONLY ONCE on 10/10/11.
    Asshole BO.

    It was his first visit to the hospital, formerly known as Bethesda Naval Hospital and renamed after the old Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Northwest Washington was closed at the end of the summer and their staffs were combined.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65581.html#ixzz29hWIbETe

    • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      Yes, his greeting caskets and all is very narrowly intended. How many dead came back without Obama’s greeting, even with family’s getting form letters. I saw in today’s news a clip from Ambassador Steven’s mom saying she’s heard nothing from Obama.

  • HObama HObamanana

    If I was producing a video for the Romney campaign I would show a clip of Mitt criticizing Obama for jetting off to Vegas to fund raise immediately following the attacks in Benghazi. I’d then show a clip of Obama criticizing Mitt saying how offended he was, then I’d show that clip of Obama telling his adorers that they are like the people that died in Benghazi, followed by the quote where he reminds everyone that Nevada is a battleground state and that there is an election coming up. Then I’d show Rice denying that this was an act of terrorism, then Obama refusing to tell Letterman, The View and Univision that it was an act of terrorism when asked directly. And I would end with a repeat the clip of Mitt criticizing Obama for refusing to confirm it was an act of terrorism and jetting off to Vegas to campaign.

  • HELENK2

    http://freebeacon.com/bounty-on-al-qaeda/

    $12 million reward for capture of al qaeda financiers in Iran

    • elizabethrc

      Someone should be offering a large reward for the return of Obama to the Oval office.

  • MG6
  • MG6
  • HELENK2

    http://pjmedia.com/andrewmccarthy/2012/10/18/its-not-just-obamas-lies-its-the-premise-of-obamas-lies/

    one of the most important things caused by backtrack lies, that is still overlooked
    the stifling of free speech

  • MarkFtLaud

    257 with CO.

  • MarkFtLaud

    Larry, this will come out next week on the FP debate. Good news to report; Gallup 52R to 45Asswipe. NC moved to Rommey. First lead in EC. Next will be Fl, then VA and then CO….256. Might go towards end of month, however mo is on our side. New PA poll tonight 49R 45Asswipe. Dick Morris was right we need to put more resources in blue states. Obama’s new firewall reported today to be Nevada, Iowa, NH and Ohio. No mention of Wisc, Mich or PA. Wisc is (10 EC’s) gonna be there. The poll out of PA was not outlyer. It was the Phila suburbs. Met with a Obama supporter (of course a lawyer) today. In his tony east Ft. Laud neighbor 20 RR signs 1 Emptysuit. We are on the road to a big victory. I say 319 EC. Larry, can we do a NQ poll bet?

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      I’m with you.

      • MarkFtLaud

        Of course u are with me. I joined your site in American desperation that McCain was an Emptysuit on domestic policy. I was so desperate I went for HC and I knew what she was-No Bill Clinton. Enough said.

      • MarkFtLaud

        Of course u are with me. I joined your site in American desperation that McCain was an Emptysuit on domestic policy. I was so desperate I went for HC and I knew what she was-No Bill Clinton. Enough said.

    • JohnnyTwoDog

      When Romney takes PA, and he will, Ohio will not matter any more.
      Tired of them getting all the attention. If they watch the tube, they are probably tired of it too.
      So glad not to live in a swing state.

      • MarkFtLaud

        So Johnny u have 2 dogs? I have 2 Skipperkes. Ratters. PA is amazing. Even the Senate race up. This country should be 100 percent energy independent. Clean Coal. Clean natural gas. Oil by the millions of barrels. Gas for cars can be less then 2 bucks a gallon again. However we have NOT allowed any new refinaries built since god knows when. I think its the 70′s. That’s why CA and the rest of us screwed

      • MarkFtLaud

        So Johnny u have 2 dogs? I have 2 Skipperkes. Ratters. PA is amazing. Even the Senate race up. This country should be 100 percent energy independent. Clean Coal. Clean natural gas. Oil by the millions of barrels. Gas for cars can be less then 2 bucks a gallon again. However we have NOT allowed any new refinaries built since god knows when. I think its the 70′s. That’s why CA and the rest of us screwed

  • HELENK2
    • MarkFtLaud

      No cause we will have a new AGeneral very soon HelenK2

  • HELENK2

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/18/hillarys-non-mea-culpa/

    according to this article the e-mails between benghazi and DC, Hillary Clinton DID order that the security get beefed up, but the orders were not carried out.

    buy popcorn stock

    • Theymustbemorons

      It’s a very interesting article. Would love to know who did not follow those orders and if he/she is still working at State.

    • Theymustbemorons

      It’s an odd scene. Hillary consulting with a team of lawyers, evaluating options, when she knows the cables will back her up. If the story about the cables is true, I’d like to know who didn’t carry out Hillary’s orders. And, if that person still has a job.

    • JohnnyTwoDog

      I belive that the Clinton’s are trying to invent a cover story to help Hillary in 2016. But I call Bullshit on how the scene played out.

      “After the Clinton legal team had a chance to review the State Department cable traffic between Benghazi and Washington, the experts came to the conclusion that the cables proved that Hillary had in fact given specific instructions to beef up security in Libya”

      The first words from the attorneys to Clinton would have been “did you do it”
      And the first words from Clinton would have been “I have responses to the cables proving I didn’t”

      Those cable responses would have been the very first things Clinton presented to the lawyers. That scene would not have played out over a long period of time as described in the story.

      Sounds more like after exhausting everything else, they invented the cable response story.

      • MarkFtLaud

        You are correct. It has been reported that Bill hired a high tech team of lawyers on the subject. Typical. They are old news.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=630858156 Betsy Levin

      Thank you for the link. So many people who have supported her so ardently (especially here) have turned their backs on her while the entire story has yet to unfold. I think the Clintons have set a very fine trap for Barry. Stay tuned. It will be a dandy story if Barry loses the election. Did you hear what he said to Jon Stewart tonight?
      ‘Here’s what I’ll say. If four Americans get killed, it’s not optimal.’

      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2219867/Barack-Obama-Benghazi-If-Americans-killed-OPTIMAL-Obamas-extraordinary-response-security-fiasco-Benghazi-massacre.html#ixzz29hfL3M4T

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    • getfitnow

      Then it makes it more curious that she would support the video scheme.

      I’m sick of all of them.

  • Dave L.

    Spot on, He never called it a terrorist attack. Its on the record, live tape, he can’t change it. He can spin it all he wants, it won’t change what he actually said. Didn’t he also refer to the killings as “bumps” in the road ?

    • JohnnyTwoDog

      Those are bumps, but not in a road. Obama left the road long before he was elected.

      • TeakWoodKite

        “Not optimal” “bumps”.

        • getfitnow

          Unfortunately we don’t have an “optimal” POTUS.

          Hopefully, it won’t be long before that changes.

  • HELENK2

    backtrack gets a case of the galloping stutters just thinking about the words ” islamic terrorism”

  • Hokma

    There was a more relevant portion of that Rose Garden speech that was before what you quoted:

    “Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.”

    This was a direct reference to the video that slammed Mohammed. What else could Obama be referring to? What other event was denigrating the religious beliefs of others?

    • akaPatience

      Very good point.

  • DianaLC

    Could it be that they did not want a good investigation? I am still wondering about the visit by the Turkish ambassador an hour before. I want to know why Stevens was there in the first place, even though he was not happy with his security. I want answers! I already have figured out that O and Hillary have failed in their leadership roles. Now I want the dots connected to their horid failure in foreign policy, not just in a lack of concern for security, that allowed this to happen

    • Theymustbemorons

      Me too!

    • MarkFtLaud

      Hope we kick the Turks out of NATO. Last year they disinvited the Israel AF to a joint US and NATO air warfare games. US also then did not go. The Turks invited the Chinese via Persian airspace to take our place. The Red Chinese got a good look at our tech. In the Iraq war the turkshitheads did not allow the 4th US Division to go thru the north. We lost many fine soldiers with the 1 route approach. I say fuck the Turks.

      • JohnnyTwoDog

        duplicity and pacification of Islamic populations walk hand in hand.

        • MarkFtLaud

          J2D, I’ve replied to you via blackberry and my bb said the msgs went to NQ and received but alas sorry to you and all others they are not here.

        • DianaLC

          See my answer above to MarkFtLaud. I would not classify all Turkish people as Islamic.

      • DianaLC

        Well I can’t say that to all Turkish people. My daughter-in-law is Turkish. Her large family was so welcoming and fun when I attended the two wedding celebrations in Istanbul. Walking the streets in the old historical section of the city was so much fun, and most everyone we met that year (2007) was happy to meet Americans.
        My daughter-in-law’s family are “not religious” (their way of putting it. The admiration for Ataturk is great, as far as i can tell.
        I would never want to say that about the Turks anyway, even without personal reasons. This is basically still a democratic society. It has a way to go in regard to acknowledging the Armenian genocide. The Kurds within its borders are always upset. It’s economy needs help. It’s in a tense geographical position, so has to deal with the islamic issues perhaps more than we would want to deal–especially in its more rural regions. I know that with the ever increasing knowledge that the Greeks and the horrible financial state of the world will never allow them into the EU and the fact that now that might not seem such a good thing has meant that they’ve had to consider more seriously their position there in that part of the world and make decisions that we might not like them to make.
        But to kick them out of NATO, to abandon a secular society in that part of the world–and from what I saw in Istanbul, it would not easily be returned to a theocracy–is just crazy.
        In any case, I asked about the Turkish abassador (as I keep saying) because I want some actual reporters to do their jobs and investigate WHY that ambassador was there that night and why Stevens was there. What were they doing that night? We have a right to know why our people were there without security. What was so important that they were there?

        • MarkFtLaud

          the current regime in Turkey is not secular. Sorry to say. More journalists in jail then Russia. Time for them to go. However, the turks are in a corner now with their policies so I will take advantage for America. They are not our allies. You will be in jail there.

          • DianaLC

            Have you been there? I might be sent to jail as a Turkish citizen for mentioning the Armenian holocaust. But my daughter-in-law’s family still wear secular clothes, still do NOT attend mosque or worship Allah. (Journalists are often jailed about the Armenian question, even writers. They need to get over it.)

            • MarkFtLaud

              Writers in jail have to “get over it”. Are u insane? I have been all over the world and miss the true justice of the dead and gone Mughals. Terrible Islam rules. Killing the best. Well you can all live as animals in the 7th century.

              • DianaLC

                My pronoun reference was not clear. Sorry. I meant the Turkish government needs to get over the past. We have acknowledged the Japanese internment during WWII as not a good thing at all. The Turkish government needs to address its own history and get over the fact that they did what they did.

                • MarkFtLaud

                  Yes that would be nice but they won’t. I think our only friends there are the Kurds and Israel.

        • Justine00

          Interesting, DianaLC. I had a similar good experience with a Tuirkish couple while visiting a vineyard in Israel in ’95. They were most friendly/welcoming, so I have hope for Turkey.
          .

  • sowsear1
  • nickoury

    It’s a shame. zero and the entire democratic party is making complete fools of themselves and they don’t seem to be able to stop.
    They’re no longer circling the drain, but rather have passed the trap, losing all sense of bearing. Big bird, binders, disparaging fallen heroes, “bullets aimed at you”, continuous lies, “in your face” belligerence, every day is a new turn in their downward spiral.

    • MarkFtLaud

      Next week R will handle this. I promise.

      • nickoury

        You can count on it.

        • MarkFtLaud

          Nickoury. Did u see me latest post on mo and the EC. Larrys security posts important but will not mean cut hay if we lose. It will be buried. Hey what was up with Hillary attacking “whining women” today. Bizarre and I once concerned her POTUS material. I am an ass

          • Dave L.

            She told women to stop whining. I remember her whining when Bill was getting Lewinskied !!

            • MarkFtLaud

              SECRET.
              I have a true story but I don’t want to reveal myself. In the 90ks I had a 200 person event-catered. The Clintons were staying at a wealthy contributers house. Well, my catered-owner overheard my conversation (and she knew I hired her) laughed and said. I always wanted to meet HC got a call she wanted a fresh fruit platter. She showed up. No one there except 1 SS agent on their wing of the house. She ewas told to go to last room on left. Door open 6 inches she knocked to meet her hero. No answer she pushed door open and HC in arms of head of her SS detail. So there! She is not gay

          • nickoury

            You’re not an ass. At one time she did seem to have some potential. However, she began to fade in the middle of the 2008 primaries, being, unable or, ultimately, unwilling to challenge the zero juggernaut. Not a good quality to exercise when battling to be US President. For whatever reason, she is out of the running permanently. Her performance as SOS is stellar when placed in the orbit of zero & Co., but that is far from acceptable for America. Bill had a very lucky eight years and five full years to get ahead of bin Laden, but flubbed it. I stand buy the Shar Pei analogy, for the Clinton’s, and current democratic party, they have all now shown themselves to be a plague on the country. This latest incident has brought everything, the entire four year long clown party into clear focus,

            • MarkFtLaud

              Nic. Sorry to disagree. She carries GODS (obabia) mantle. She is a disgrace and done

              • nickoury

                I think you missed the undercut of my praise.
                If you get a D+ in a class full of F- students, you would be considered the star of the class. Not necessarily a stellar performance but standing out among of a bunch of bungling fools, that is an achievement of some sort. She did work very hard, at what and, ultimately for whose benefit, I’m not sure. I don’t believe it was completely for the benefit of the United States.

                • MarkFtLaud

                  Well written Nic. Can we at least drip some blood? After all, only 18 days.

    • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

      Who can credit anything coming from the mind of this man?

      I found this after clicking on HK2′s link to DC, under the comments, in response to a someone saying Hillary Clinton will look too old in 2016 to run for President.

      nickoury • 7 minutes ago • parent

      2016, 2016?!
      Have you not looked at her lately? Though I’ll grant you that by 2016 she will be indistinguishable from a Shar Pei.

      • nickoury

        Did I strike a nerve?
        At this point the Clinton’s are nothing but low-life, political trash, trying to save face in order to have another shot at the WH.
        Enough already, they are all toast.

        • TeakWoodKite

          She has the need to leave and get some much needed rest.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=630858156 Betsy Levin

            Amen. She has worked harder as SOS than Barry ever has his entire life.

      • akaPatience

        Yeah, I don’t like similar snide remarks about the FLOTUS either, even though I absolutely cannot stand the woman. I may be wrong but I don’t often read or hear women making comments about male politicians’ physical characteristics.

        • elizabethrc

          Please don’t get me started on Joe Biden! There is so much fuel there.

          • wylrae

            For instance, hot air coming out the wrong end!

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=630858156 Betsy Levin

          Thank you. I feel the same way about the Flotus but I don’t like listening to disparaging comments about her appearance. If HRC decides to run in 2016, she’ll get a lot of rest by then and can get tweaked and botoxed like most of the pols, male and female.

          • KenoshaMarge

            All the tweaking, botoxing, face lifts and all the anti-aging nonsense that obsesses this youth oriented country doesn’t help what is inside. And I have become disgusted with what is inside both Clintons.

            I might respect all these aging pols if I thought they fought so hard to remain in the public spotlight and in their little positions of power for the good of the country. I don’t. They are power hungry and attention seeking people who care more for party than country and more for attention than integrity.

            Are there exceptions? Perhaps. But I’m not seeing many/any. And certainly not with the Clintons. They helped to put a man in the office of President of the United States that they both knew was unqualified and corrupt. They did it for party and for their access to party power. I find that repulsive.

            • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=630858156 Betsy Levin

              Fine…sure. You probably never really liked the Clintons anyway.

              • KenoshaMarge

                Wrong Betsy. I voted for Bill Clinton twice and Hillary once in the primary. I just have had my eyes opened and no longer support either of them.

                • piattq

                  I think we are all generally agreed that Hillary has self destructed and probably Bill too. The high point for Bill was probably the DNC speech and now he is really an after thought. BUT tell me—looking at the Dems bench who do you see coming forward as their next presidential candidate? Do they have a Marco Rubio? A Chris Christie? A Paul Ryan? A Scott Walker?

                  • KenoshaMarge

                    I am sure there are some good, young Dems coming up. Not of the stature of a Rubio or a Christie but that may come in time.
                    My problem is that I cannot, willnot support even the best if it gives more power to Obama/Reid/Pelosi who I consider corrupt beyond redemption.

                    • piattq

                      KenoshaMarge, I am with you on this. As I thought about the growing possibility of O losing and Hillary self-destructing, I thought about the Dems bench and I wondered what do they have? Nada. And compared to the Repub line up it is a disaster. Who do they run: Kerry, Biden, Pelosi—wow! piattq

                    • KenoshaMarge

                      Chris Van Hollen and the cretinous Governor of Maryland are all I can think of. Both are the “smarmy” type that people think of as typical pols. Both are also white which makes the racist calls impossible and I don’t think that the Dems are done dog whistling and calling people who don’t agree with them racists.
                      I’m sure there are more but nothing like the GOP bench.

        • DianaLC

          I don’t approve of statements about FLOTUS’s appearance either. But, I will say that her behavior as a FLOTUS is the worst I’ve witnessed in my life. I was so young, but I remember reading such good things about Eleanor Roosevelt. Mamie seemed dowdy but perfect for that time period. Even Pat Nixon was o.k. by me. Of course, at the age I was when Kennedy was elected, I loved Jackie–but not so much as Mrs. Onassis. I liked Betty Ford immensely. I wasn’t a big fan of Barbara Bush. Everyone seemed to like her, but for some reason she seemed too distant for me, too blue blood. I liked Rosalynn Carter also. She never gave up her hometown values. Now Nancy Reagan was not one of my favorites at all, all that redecorating of the WH just didn’t seem appropriate at that time. And, though I study astrology a little, I didn’t approve of her using it for prediction so much. I give her credit for loving her husband so much. I really liked Laura Bush, especially since you could tell that she was her own person and that George and she had a good relationship, though she could disagree with him. But Michelle just seems to ooze dislike for most non-celebrity Americans. And I am so turned off by her extravagant spending in this economy–even worse than Nancy R’s during that shorter period of a bad economy when Ronnie took office.
          But her looks are something she can’t really change much, though she has worked hard at it. She can use some coaching about her facial expressions, however. They do often give away too much in regard to her probable thoughts that might not be so nice.

        • KenoshaMarge

          Then you have never listened to the abomination Stephanie Miller talking about Britt Hume or any number of male conservatives.

          And remember all the taunts and attacks on John McCains age and looks? It’s there. Maybe not as prevelent as the remarks about women’s looks, since that is all many care about, but it is there.

          Actually ageism in and of itself is a bigotry that thrives in this country.

          For all the political bullshit about the concern for Seniors, most people care for Seniors only in their own family and then often only long enough to park them in some nursing home to get them out of sight and out of mind.

          • akaPatience

            You’re right Marge – I don’t listen to Stephanie Miller. I heard her once and that was enough! SO, I stand corrected.

            • KenoshaMarge

              You are wiser than I Patience. I listened to her quite a few times. And then I asked myself why. And myself said, “because you think that somehow a female jackass is better than a male jackass.”
              I quit listening. A jackass is a jackass and Miller is one braying jackass.

      • elizabethrc

        Therer’s an old rule that if you are past 40 years of age, you never bend over to look at your reflection in a pool of water. What you’ll see looking back at you is a pair of eyes surrounded by silly putty.
        Hillary has spent far too much time looking into the pool.

    • JohnnyTwoDog

      I say “keep it up”. The Democrats are goin good, root em on!

    • KenoshaMarge

      A cowardly POTUS who hasn’t the guts to face a real Press Conference, even with the mostly useless White House Press Corpse, but has time to fund raise and bask in the adoration of celebutards like David Letterman and the Mass Media Masturbaters on The View.

  • nickoury

    Empty chair, empty suit, empty head.

    • KenoshaMarge

      All too true!

    • MarkFtLaud

      haha. You are so right. Hey, Florida’s 29 EV’s just moved to RR by Rasmussin. Emptysuit will be issuing many pardons.

  • getfitnow

    John Podhoretz ‏@jpodhoretz
    Obama on Benghazi, per pool: “When four Americans get killed, it’s not optimal.”
    *****************
    We sure have a compassionate POTUS.
    ..WTH?

    • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver
      • Hokma

        That too is at least a partial lie.

        It was their policy to limit the American security footprint by using Libyans in order to give the appearance of normalcy.

        That is how Obama’s kumbaya foreign policy is not just naive but lethal.

        • MarkFtLaud

          mmm….I feel a tinkle in my leg….

          • nickoury

            Take a look behind you, it might be Tingles.

            • MarkFtLaud

              Actually, I get tinkles when I look at RR and the movement to victory in the electoral college. We must vote and as Moochelle stated focus on Nov 2nd. Why Nov 2nd? Damn she has another tax paid vacation!

              • Justine00

                Actually, it’s Nov 5th.
                .

                • MarkFtLaud

                  Don’t get the Sun 5th date. Oh u mean they are in Church? Lol.

            • MarkFtLaud

              Actually, I get tinkles when I look at RR and the movement to victory in the electoral college. We must vote and as Moochelle stated focus on Nov 2nd. Why Nov 2nd? Damn she has another tax paid vacation!

      • TeakWoodKite

        DO I have to watch?

      • getfitnow

        He disgraces the office of the Presidency by being there discussing murdered Americans with a fool.

    • sowsear1

      No, just bumps in the road….