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Post Debate Media Depression [Photo Update]

* Bumped Up *

I am on a plane that departed Fort Lauderdale 10 minutes ago (seat 11a for any of you media mavens on board and using GoGo) and am surrounded by a legion of the mainstream media. I anticipated there might be one or two Washington press or political types on the plane. Boy was I wrong. They are all here.

I was standing behind Chris Matthews in the security line. He is looking very unhappy this morning. Having been on his show several times in 2001 and 2002, I know his happy face and I know when he is in a major funk. He was very funky today.

Immediately to my right (on the other side of the security line) was F. Chuck Todd, oblivious to all around him, talking on the phone. I heard him say, “Yeah, Obama’s numbers are collapsing.”

Once through security I spied David Corn, Howard Feinstein, Major Garret and Candy Crowley. This looks like a frigging press charter plane for the Obama campaign. The average American really cannot appreciate the level of incest that is the so-called mainstream media. They are their own echo chamber. The vast majority are the geeks who were tortured in high school. That’s why they hate Mitt Romney so. He reminds them of the popular, successful kids they were not.

Boy, are they bummed this morning. Some may put on the happy face on TV, but they rarely tell viewers and readers what they really know. In this case, there are the real polls. Each campaign has a good handle on whether they are moving up or moving down. Obama is in free fall and did not do himself any favors last night. Why?

What are we talking about the morning after the debate? Obama’s strong, steady leadership or his claim, later denied by his spinners, that sequestration would not happen?

Are we talking about his spine of iron as commander-in-chief or is the talk about his peevish, juvenile remark dismissing Romney’s remarks about the shrinking size of the U.S. Navy?

You know the answer. Obama lost because of his misstatements and errors. Whenever your spokes people and lackeys have to hit the airwaves and try to explain what you meant to say you know you stepped in the feces.

And Obama? He was high stepping. In his effort to portray Romney as a know nothing on military affairs, Barack Obama referred to submarines as a “SHIP.” Idiot. Any sailor knows that a sub is a boat not a ship. Submariners never refer to their rides as a “ship.” Barack showed his ass on that one in more ways than one.

What message did he send to the workers in the Newport News/Norfolk shipyards who are standing by ready to build new vessels? He essentially called them “out dated.” In doing so he demonstrated a fundamental ignorance about the capabilities and mission of the U.S. Navy. We have moved to an Air Craft Carrier fleet. The era of Battleships is over. Instead, we have these floating air fields, which are accompanied by cruisers and destroyers and other support vessels.

To maintain the ability of the United States military to move personnel and equipment to hotspots around the world we need ships. Obama fundamentally failed to understand that critical point.

While Obama may have satisfied the hardcore lefty partisans who ache for a fight and love to watch someone act like an inconsiderate ass, true adults understand that kind of behavior does not rally nor inspire independent voters. Obama’s desperate embrace of this base worked to his disadvantage with women and elderly looking for “No Drama.” Obama’s angry, petulant, in-your-face histrionics did not sway the middle. It alienated them.

That’s the dirty secret that most of the media knows and refuses to disclose to America. The election has shifted decisively in Romney’s favor and Obama’s ship, not submarine, is going under. Glug. Glug. Glug.

  • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

    I couldn’t force myself to sit through the whole debate last night. Cliff Notes seems the best approach as Obama continually spouts the same old BS and behavior is so predictable. The media has got to be feeling pretty dirty by now to keep covering for Obama.

    • BILLYDEVO

      Do you think that the media is responsible for this ,for 4 yrs they have covered for him never calling out any of his lies and now with people really paying attention and all the lies comimg out in all 3 debates people know that is all bull but he thinks he can just say whatever he wants .So in my opinion the same media that is in the tank is responsible for him tanking

  • Bill O’Reilly

    A fairly meaningless post from Larry Johnson. Criticizing the media is so old, especially coming from an angry close to retirement age white guy who runs a hate Obama website for more than 4 years while sucking the American taxpayer dry with his various “consulting” firms during the biggest “security” and military spending boondoggle ever is funny.

    You are truly in the “conservative” bubble if you think Obama lost the debate last night. Romney was very very weak on foreign policy. He spent all night hugging Obama and flip-flopping on everything he has been saying for the last 18 months.

    Obama is building plenty of navy ships.

  • Dissentispatriotic

    If Chuck Todd is talking with reckless abandon in crowds of people saying Obama’s numbers are collapsing, it must be bad. Wish I could have heard it with my own ears!

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      Frankly, I was surprised he was so careless.

      • MarkFtLaud

        Me also. I wish I could have been on a fly on the wall….on NO. There was such much feces there!

      • elizabethrc

        Call me paranoid but I put nothing past the main stream media. Anyone who supports a man of such low scruples as Obama is suspect in my book.
        I hope what Todd said is 100% true.

      • MarkFtLaud

        Larry and all of the NQ Family; I have waited as many of you 4 long years. I kept my powder dry but I did give time and money to RR. I cannot believe we may which our goal. Legs tinkling? Shit, my whole body is going! I’m taking off Wed 11-7. I will have a Victory Party…it will last. Thank God, we will be delivered. Larry gave us the first thumb coming out of the dike and I always said 319. I’m watching and praying as states move. I have read the Demos today said they don’t need Ohio! Oh nice. The bottom line is I’m extremely grateful to one and all. I just hope it happens.

        • machtyn

          I’m considering a victory party on the 7th. But I think Obama’s lawyers may try something. As it is, I did take the 6th off to assist in poll watching, or in any other way I can. Time and Money donated!

          • MarkFtLaud

            Go to DickMorris.com and see his daily video. He is give an electoral college landslide projection. He is also at 257 and counting as I am.

    • Eyes Wide Open

      He has been somewhat critical of Obama while on FOX in the last few days. But he was spinning for Obama on the debate a little while ago. It seems he thought Romney was not forceful enough. Actually I wish he had of brought the murders in Libya into the mix. On the other hand they were waiting in ambush for that. Bob, Obama and his earpiece.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Romney did fine in the debate. He accomplished what he needed to do and that is a lot more important than scoring points against Obama that we want to see on the board.

        • Eyes Wide Open

          Yes he did and anything he said regarding that event would have been twisted into him/Romnsy being at the gates of the compound fully armed and leading that “militia”.

      • elizabethrc

        Not to worry. The Congressional hearings will keep the Libya attack front and center up to and through the election. Obama will not be able to hide it nor, ultimately, will the msm.
        Today the newly released documents look very bad for Obama, seemingly proving that he lied about knowledge of the attack. This also needs to be mainstreamed. The general public needs to know.

        • Eyes Wide Open

          Everyone here should email our contacts with links to here and the Drudge Report. It is top, front and center there. In the case that the msm does not cover the truth then let us be the truth bearers.

    • Dissentispatriotic

      Yet, this morning on Morning Joe, Chuck talked the company line with a straight face. I was curious to see what he’d say and his body language. Guess he’s perfected delivering lies.

  • Deapster

    This is the breakaway period. In 2008 McCain and Obama traded number one spot for months, back and forth, back and forth. Then in late October it was a break away time for Obama and the image of him being a leader in finding solutions for the 2008 financial meltdown solution and McCain’s image becoming only a sideline player.

    Once that breakaway image took hold, the race was set. This is happening now, except Romney has gained the upper hand in the image narrative. Obama is now clearly labeled the loser. Done.

    Except for the Democrat massive GOTV machine and the unions dunning their memberships for Obama votes, or else But this race finally has energized Republicans who sat out the last one. That may be all the tipping point that is needed this time.

  • Popsmoke

    What a bunch of navy crap… Building these ship has crap to do with military prepardness. Its government welfare to play the employment numbers game… Just come out and say it…

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      You genuinely do not know what you are talking about on this point. You do not understand nor have firsthand knowledge about the sad state of the Navy. Same applies to Air Force air lift capabilities.
      Jet fighters? There’s the boondoggle.

      • Bill O’Reilly

        Larry Johnson you have no idea what you are talking about either. The Obama administration is very much building the ships the Navy needs and has requested.
        Romney sounds like a complete ass in militiary circles with comparing today’s Navy with that of 1916.

      • Popsmoke

        You wish to debate me on this issue? M&R vs new builds? Flight deck vs blue water? Subs vs surface ships? Os vs NCOs and enlisted? How about capabilities? Strategic vs conventional? LJ I eat sleep and drink this one area of military history and strategy. The other is our stratic capabilities. But Romney is full of shit… We need to cut defense the navy issue is a strawman… I am not saying we do not need a “few” more ships especially in the pacific. But the numbers he is tallking about? Marlarkey!

        Now as far as airlift capability? You are very correct? We need new boys like yesterday….

        But he is playing a burning fiddle on the navy issue. Now if I am not getting it then there are other way more honorable and knowledgable than I that are in oppisition…

        http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2012/10/as-we-all-should-know-national-popular-vote-polls-are-meaningless-since-the-us-constitution-dictates-that-elections-for-pres.html

        • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

          Gee….who am I going to believe in this argument? Larry Johnson, a renowned security expert who has appeared on major news networks? Or some Obot named “Popsmoke” who comes to troll on Larry’s blog and now claims he’s a military expert because he “eats sleeps and drinks” military history. Hmmm.

          • Popsmoke

            I give LJ his due and there are many areas I bow to him on. But not this one… You ask any Senior Naval Officer or NCO whether we need a force of 300 plus ship or the educated manpower to run what we have and what is really needed in new builds? You will be surprised in the answer.

            Oh BTW remember who GWB appointed to his SDI study group? Not everyone is a super secret squirel or can be…

            • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001348291128 Sharon Pealer

              hey popsmoke, what happens when the assembly line stops? Get the picture.

              • Popsmoke

                Fleet is to big to shut down the assembly line while the navy is not general motors…

                • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001348291128 Sharon Pealer

                  Sorry, slowdown is already happening.

                  • Popsmoke

                    By the way, ask this question of the great LBO king. If he was truly interested in the yards. Why was he not bitching that we have become a third rate commercial ship builder sucking up to asian countries like South Korea and Japan?
                    Or is it we have become to use to mil specs?

            • POdVet

              Actually, what we need is a seriously updated fleet. If that were done, then 250 would probably be enough. But that isn’t and will not be done. Now that the USN is required to operate in so many multi-missioncapable roles, if they were to upgrade almost the entire fleet. Less could work. But the Aegis class cruisers were only a beginning step towards that goal when I was in. And they have not done likewise with other classes of ships. Our anti-submarine warfare capability in particular needs an upgrade desperately. During the cold war, it was barely adequate to let the hunter killer subs keep track of the Soviet nuke boats. But the Red menace isn’t the menace anymore. Now we need to watch for small diesel boats that could be used in a terrorist fashion. The ASW gear on FFG’s, Cruisers etc is not capable of finding a diesel sub on battery I can tell you that from personal experience.

              • Popsmoke

                Agreed we need to upgrade but not go wild. We have to be task specific and in about 15 years we will be at about 300 ships. You understand that building costs, operating and M&R costs are totally different.
                The navy needs yes no dispute there but it ain’t christmas!

          • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

            Pop grossly exaggerates his experience. He’s never held a TS clearance in his life. Likes to pretend that he did, however.

            • Popsmoke

              Really? LOL! You don’t exaggerates yours either? Don’t forget I know your specialities and maritime is not one of them. Your right though I have never held as high as a TS and never had to. You have also have not worked with in the maritime community outide CT and I have. But since your playing the part. Here are my questions for you :-)

              1. What type of ships and how many of each does Romney want to build?
              2. What budget is he projecting?
              3. Where we getting the $ from?

              Now here is my friendly challenge my young Jedi…

              You use that superior TS intellect and let’s debate the issue and see who wins? Or are you going to pull a Romney?

            • shelldoll2

              Thank you Mr. Johnson. I know what you are talking about. You’re right as a fellow traveler.

          • Bill O’Reilly

            “Larry Johnson, a renowned security expert who has appeared on major news networks?”
            “Renowned security expert” my ass. He is so far out of the loop these days. More like a major fleecer of the taxpayer with his faux security expertise. He no longer has any credibility and is a laughing stock in security circles because of this website. He is just another far-right ideologue who spews his garbage from his website. CNN has not called Larry Johnson for a very long time. I wonder why?

        • Bill O’Reilly

          Typical of the inconsistency of Larry Johnson. He wrote a big post a month or two ago talking about the need to cut the military budget and now clearly because of politics he is supporting his man Romney’s idea that we need a bigger navy. Complete bullshit. All politics all the time with Larry Johnson.

          • DianaLC

            Did you read the details of that report? He made a serious case that there are far too many positions that should be cut. He did not mention ships at all. He made the same argument that I could give in education, and one that many could give as far as business goes. All these organizations somehow end up paying far too much in salaries to “adminstrators” than is ever necessary or good for the operation of these organizations. There are ways to cut without having to cut necessary equipment. Getting rid of half the top administrative staff in most school districts would go a long way toward improving education and saving money, IMHO. I think that was the gist of LJ’s recent post about the military.
            Larry was talking apples, and you try to pretend he was discussing oranges.
            We are also usually intelligent enough to figure that out.

          • FormerLiberal9

            Bill O’Reilly your profile doesn’t go back a month or two. Under what name were you posting at that time?

            • HObama HObamanana

              Sure sounds like PPAA.

          • TeakWoodKite

            It that your real name or areyou just some chickenshit from Levittown?

      • MarkFtLaud

        FYI all: The military follows the 1 third rule. 1 third in the field, 1 in repairs 1 @ rest. If you need 315 ships that means 105 out on patrol. With ratsass Emptysuit @ 170 vessals that means only 56 out. Bad news bears.

    • Deapster

      Keeping sea lanes open for commerce and rapid response for a country bordered by two vast oceans and critical shipping lanes through the third is an unsuspected role of the US Navy – and we should have no intention, desire or decision to cede that role to anyone else.

      In 1917, the Brits controlled the high seas and the world’s commerce depended upon this. We were only a land army then -horses and bayonets did matter more than ships. Britain took care of that obligation.

      in 2012, the US alone now commands this role. China may want to but they are a single ocean country, and at last report a single air craft carrier navy. In roads are being made across the pole and busting through to the Indian Ocean be it Burma or Pakistan.

      But right here, right now and hopefully for a long time to come, the US Navy needs to rule the seas, the global seas.

      • Popsmoke

        True… But the british could not financially keep up either. Its a big pond! So it comes down to mission and the missions requirements. But if you think its ok to keep building super carriers we do not properly staff or equipt especially with air assets. Realize that when we deploy a CBG is cost tons of tax dollars everyone wants to cut…
        Then you have the two armies and the zoomers fighting for there share…

  • Deapster

    Echo chamber is the exact description. One sees this is California public academia as well, which then in turn infects the classroom. They do not even know there are others who do not think like them.

    The ivory tower’s worst abuse is that it has become an echo chamber for failed progressives to talk among themselves and then pass this off as “education” to new generations.

    • DianaLC

      Absolutely correct! We have some of the stupidest “educated” people in the world in our top universities.

      • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

        DLC, at th 2008 D Convention, when my work on vote binding states reached the CA Clinton delegates, they in asked Gloria Allread whether this was true, that is, CA is a vote binding state and, by law, Clinton pledged delegates must cast their votes for her at the Convention. Know what she said? ‘I have to do some research.’ Then, when she confirmed I was right; she gave ‘press conferences’ touting the fact Clinton delegates had to vote for Clinton (but not the fact, “jbjd” ‘educated’ her). (And she dropped her objections to Obama’s illegal manipulation of votes from vote binding states like hers, when he stole the nomination.)

        (This is spelled out in my COUP series.)

        • MG6

          I hope you write a book about all this when all is said and done.

  • DianaLC

    Thanks for the report on the supposed “reporters.” No group of people deserves to be down in the dumps as much as they do.
    As I mentioned on another thread, I am the mother of an ex-sumariner and so I also knew better than to call a submarine a ship. Heck, I can even understand some German. The famous movie was “Das Boot.”
    I hope Chrissy is now looking for a different job just as many thousands and thousands of Americans are. He’s certainly not going to get any WH access in a Romney administration–same goes for “get the transcript” Crowley.
    Did you give them each a broad smile? Or did you give them all a piece of your mind the way only you can do so well?

  • Deapster

    Reporters like access and they grovel for favors. How do they now switch gears once they are no longer in the tank for The One who is now The Loser?

    Do they now become the entrenched loyal opposition or do they do an about face and attempt to self-rehabilitate their views?
    Too bad when the media lost its integrity and/or independence, and sadly this did start with the Bush II slavish pandering, not necessarily the Obama genuflecting.

    • Dissentispatriotic

      Deapster, I’ve also wondered where these highly partisan reporters go now. Chuck Todd had an ad up on MSNBC a few months ago touting his “access” and the fact that the American people rely on his being able to get the real story because they don’t have the access that he does. I find that sickening. As much as I want to see this administration go down, I’m almost as happy to see the Mikas, the Chucks, the Chris’, the Rachels, the Soledads…oh, wait. The entire MSNBC staff along with a few from CNN! My goodness, where will they all go now?

      • DianaLC

        As I keep asking: Who cares where they all go?

        • Deapster

          I keep asking who is still reading or watching them. Unless they are hooked on a daily dose of outrage adrenalin.

        • FormerLiberal9

          I think we all know where they are going its just when will they get there?

  • Bill O’Reilly

    A fairly meaningless post from Larry Johnson. Criticizing the media is so old, especially coming from an angry close to retirement age white guy who runs a hate Obama website for more than 4 years while sucking the American taxpayer dry with his various “consulting” firms during the biggest “security” and military spending boondoggle ever is funny.

    You are truly in the “conservative” bubble if you think Obama lost the debate last night. Romney was very very weak on foreign policy. He spent all night hugging Obama and flip-flopping on everything he has been saying for the last 18 months.

    Obama is building plenty of navy ships.

    • DianaLC

      Where will you find a job when you are no longer welcome in the WH basement? Oh wait. I dodn’t care.

      • MarkFtLaud

        haha!

      • Bill O’Reilly

        A fairly meaningless post from Larry Johnson. Criticizing the media is so old, especially coming from an angry close to retirement age white guy who runs a hate Obama website for more than 4 years while sucking the American taxpayer dry with his various “consulting” firms during the biggest “security” and military spending boondoggle ever is funny.

        You are truly in the “conservative” bubble if you think Obama lost the debate last night. Romney was very very weak on foreign policy. He spent all night hugging Obama and flip-flopping on everything he has been saying for the last 18 months.

        Obama is building plenty of navy ships.

      • TeakWoodKite

        What is “plenty” of ships?

  • Bill O’Reilly

    Yeah, Obama numbers are collapsing.. my ass.

    The probability of his winning the election has grown on Intrade over the last year.

    http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743474
    Obama is likely to get a further small poll bounce after this third debate, which is more significant than all other bounces, given how close the election is.

    There is nothing more Romney can do at this point. The best Romney can hope for is a very bad employment number for October, which could just as easily show a continued improvement in unemployment, which would put the election away for Obama.

    • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

      Hahahahah! You must be soooo desperate if you think InTrade betting has any bearing on who is leading! Romney is up at both Rasmussen and Gallup, at 50 and 51% respectively, and no-one has come back at this point from being under 50 and won.

      • Hokma

        No, this guy is either smoking some weed or some acid trip. No one can that be so delusional without using a substance.

      • Bill O’Reilly

        Popular vote means nothing. Electoral college means everything. Obama ahead in North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia, Iowa, etc. If Romney loses Ohio, he will have to win everything else including North Carolina, Virginia and Iowa.
        Gallup and Rasmussen have not reflected the average of all polls. They have consistently given Romney the advantage. They are bias (Gallup because it does not poll cell phones and Rasmussen because it is a Republican PR outfit). Real Clear Politics puts the average of all polls at 47% for both in the national vote. Good for Romney for pulling even with Obama in that national vote, but that does not win him the election.
        http://www.realclearpolitics.com/

        • Hokma

          Is that why Obama had pulled his troops out of North Carolina and about to do the same in Virginia?

          • HoosierinDixie

            I guess the OFA figured it out he can’t count on the 2214 registered NC voters over the age of 110 to put him over the top.

          • Bill O’Reilly

            Can you give us a credible link to prove that Obama has pulled out of North Carolina? Any actual proof of that? The Obama campaign said just today that they are not pulling out of any battleground states.

            • Hokma

              Do you r googling searching yourself.

              Paul Begala is the source.

        • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

          You better hope and pray that Romney doesn’t win the popular vote and Obama squeaks by through the electoral college. We’ll be facing a civil war if that happens.

  • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

    Larry, I want to thank you for your blog. This was one of the places I turned to in 2008 to deal with the Obama hysteria, and I actually made friends through this website, one whom I actually had lunch with this weekend! So I am so glad to hear the inside scoop on the deflated media. I know you are telling the truth when you tell us these stories.

  • HELENK2
    • Roninstia

      Ouch. That’s gonna leave a mark.

    • lee

      good ad, but it says Obama has not visited Israel. that is not true…..so not so good ad?

      • lee

        oh my goodness, it’s true!
        http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/10/23/obama-real-record-on-israel/
        he has never been to Israel as president. My gracious!

        • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ Ice Cold Troll

          He’s not allowed to soil his feet on the territory of the Zionist Occupation Terrorist Government :- )

          • lee

            You know, I love watching the crazy conspiracies on YouTube, just for entertainment, but no quarter has opened my eyes to the reality of our circumstances. Thanks for separating the crazy from the factual info being pumped into cyberspace. There is so much propaganda, then the reactionary extreme stuff on both sides…..where is the truth? Literally, God only knows. Thank you, Larry, for seeking to divide reality from all this hogwash.
            Ice cold troll, that is a chilling insight.

  • HELENK2
  • HELENK2

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/it-begins-bayonet-company-rips-obama-he-should-get-educated/

    do not know whether to laugh or cry
    bayonet co tells backtrack he should get educated

    between that and calling a sub a ship a sitting president showed just how ignorant he is about the US military

    • HELENK2
    • Roninstia

      from a FB graphic this morning, “In 1916, the US had 108,000 total men in the Army & Marines. Now in 2012, the Army & Marines deploy 330,000 modern M9 bayonets.

    • Dissentispatriotic

      I work for a decorated Marine. Have to wonder what he thought about the bayonet comment. Probably about as much as he thought of the corpsemen comment awhile back.

      • TeakWoodKite

        I wonder what the marine thought of the horse.

    • HObama HObamanana

      The comments are a riot.

    • TeakWoodKite

      “Chief of the Boat”….
      You telling me that Obama has never watched Red October? (One ping, Silly) geez…

  • Roninstia

    I wonder if there are any corpsemen on Obama’s sinking ship….let me answer my own Q. Yes. All of them. Glug, Glug, Glug.

  • IALT

    Well said.

  • http://www.facebook.com/margaret.maree Margaret Maree

    I could not have read a better article at this particular time! Thanks, Larry, I am fortified.

  • SantaFeK

    Thanks, Larry.
    I am laughing. I sent the article around to my list. They are laughing. 1)When will BSNBC go away? 2) When will the NYT finally go bankrupt?

  • Retired_from_SPOnaj

    Larry, Are you saying that in Obama’s navy, the submarines are built with screen doors?

    • FormerLiberal9

      And pulled by sea horses.

      • jamesmace

        …that fart rainbows and poop skittles and Arizona Water Melon Iced Tea.

      • HObama HObamanana

        With rainbow wings.

    • TeakWoodKite

      They go through sea trials in the Chicago bath house Obama frequent’s with Rambo

  • George

    Are you still on the plane with them? Take a picture

    • MarkFtLaud

      no thanks.

    • TeakWoodKite

      Nothing but empty chairs.

  • HELENK2

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-michelle-and-i-will-be-fine-no-matter-what-happens-election_657232.html

    latest backtrack begging letter. as usual he comes first, then he mentions the rest of the country

    • ctfsh

      I tried not to let this president get to me or affect my own motivation in job-hunting. But in August his ads of “this might be my last birthday in the White House!! But that’s not up to me … it’s up to you – please donate now!” just put me over the edge for a few days.

      God forbid Mr. President that turning 52 may have to take place in Hawaii! Yes let me donate my dwindling savings (because I am underemployed) to your cause. And no it’s not up to you at all!!!

  • leelee

    This makes me VERY happy. Thank you for making my day.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      Speaking of lefties, did you hear the story about how Hillary tried to become a Marine Corps JAG when she graduated from law school? The Marine Officer Selection Officer told her that she was, “Too old, too fat and too blind,” but if she could count cadence, the Marines might let her sign up. Unfortunately, when she took over a squad of other prospective officer candidates, she commanded, “Forward, march!” and then continued with a cadence of “Your left, your left, your left, left , left” She never got in.

      • JJ_the_PUMA

        The only gift I had in my pathetic Army career is that I could count cadence with a booming voice. I never said the word right once. As in:

        Jodi was there when you left………your right
        He’s drivin the car that your left….your right
        He got your girl when you left……..your right.

  • Propertius

    Gee, Larry – I’m a hardcore lefty and I find the spectacle of the President and Vice-President behaving like ill-mannered, petulant children absolutely revolting. Of course, I don’t consider Obama a lefty, either. ;-)

    • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ Ice Cold Troll

      Well, I’d say you’re batting .500 and that’s pretty dang good!

  • HObama HObamanana

    What Obama did last night was leave no doubt that he represents everything that is wrong with Washington D.C.. All that previous talk of working across the aisle with Congress: Out the door. You can’t work with people you don’t respect and Obama made it obvious that he has no respect for Mitt Romney or any Republican.

    If anything, what Obama did Monday night was further divide the country. People with differing opinions are not now considered the loyal opposition, they are looked down upon, demeaned and chided like children. During last night’s debate there was only one Presidential candidate.

  • HELENK2

    so how many crying drunks on the plane??
    It is going to be a long flight

    • MarkFtLaud

      why crying? they never pay for their own booze.

  • HELENK2

    arndenblog.dailymail.co.uk/2012/10/obama-may-have-won-the-
    debate-battle-tonight-but-he-knows-he-is-losing-the-election-war-to-romney.html

    backtrack knows he is losing the election war to Romney

  • http://twitter.com/StrayYellarDawg SYD

    Well, NPR is carrying on today… in show after show…. about how Obama did so much better than Romney last evening. And how smart he is. Yadda, yadda.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      Our tax dollars at work.

    • Avspatti

      Remind me again of the reason we need NPR.

  • http://twitter.com/kmbog kmbog

    No MSNBC charter? I would have thought by paying their female announcers half of what they pay their male counterparts they could have at least picked up the cost to charter a Gulfstream from Buffet’s NetJet…

  • HELENK2
  • HELENK2

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/10/23/voter-tells-biden-hes-a-good-guy-but-a-bad-vice-president/

    OUCH voter tells biden he is a good guy but a bad vice president

  • foxyladi14

    Bravo Larry Bravo..

  • Fred82

    Honest question here.

    Why does much of the MSM go along with the Leftist BS? Do they genuinely believe in this BS? Or are they playing along because they think that they will personally come out ahead as a result of the BS?

  • HELENK2

    weird random thought
    with the talk of our navy needing more ships and more cuts coming, will the LOST hurt the navy even more????

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76627.html

    • Deapster

      Don’t forget the mysterious loss of military personnel ballots and registration that recently occurred. They won’t be able to vote anyway.

  • KataKimbe

    Thanks for making my day… the thought of these ‘reporters’ having sad faces gives me a shrill up my leg. I also read a few tweets this morning from Obama supporters… who instead of tweeting should go back to school and study. Geeez, my ESL beats their first language skills any day. I am curious… are threats like these taken seriously… even if only rants by idiots?

    • FormerLiberal9

      Don’t these tweets qualify as terroristic threats. The Secret Service should be busy collecting these fools.

      • HObama HObamanana

        One would think that such threats qualify.

      • sowsear1

        SS says they are “aware” of these threats…duh.

    • DianaLC

      Whoa…..those are sickening.

      • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ Ice Cold Troll

        Check out the archives over on Twitchy — reams of those, also threats against Ryan, their wives, any celebrities coming out for Romney, ESPECIALLY black celebrities — it’s truly horrifying.

        • DianaLC

          Yes, the party of civil discourse after the Tucson shooting sure attracts people who are models of cordiality. I always wonder how those uber liberal college educated followers of THE ONE like being in the company of these people.

    • HObama HObamanana

      These are direct physical threats. Each of these people should be exposed as violent Obama supporters, their names and addresses published with maps to their residences and places of employment. Something tells me they wouldn’t like that very much.

      • KataKimbe

        Agree… too many out there.

  • HELENK2
    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      But they’re cool and enlightened, so they don’t need discipline. That’s only for the masses.

  • HELENK2
  • FormerLiberal9

    Way down in the bottom of the ocean.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leI7sfmipuI&noredirect=1

  • FormerLiberal9

    Can the Commander in Chief be charged with being AWOL.

  • Retired_from_SPOnaj

    See link: Adult Obama supporters boo nine year old girl for supporting Romney on the Morning Joe TV show. Aren’t there a couple of our own Obots in that crowd? I’m surprised that they didn’t spank her.
    http://freebeacon.com/msnbcs-morning-joe-crowd-boos-9-year-old-girl-for-supporting-mitt-romney/

    • vinnie winkel

      classy. just like tweeting for the assass ination of Romney by the left.

  • Retired_from_SPOnaj

    Paul Begala has declared that Obama is pulling his troops out of North Carolina because it is a lost cause. OK, Obots, let’s start banging on what a “traitor” Paul Begala is.

    • Hokma

      Next will be Virginia. The key will be the polling over the next several days to see if Obama continues to cave or if he has leveled off.

    • Bill O’Reilly

      North Carolina is not all that relevant. Obama is ahead in Virginia, Ohio, New Hampshire, Colorado, Iowa, Nevada, and Wisconsin. Romney needs to win the majority of those states to win and if he does not win Ohio he needs to win every single non-Ohio swing state. Good luck. Romney has lost his momentum. That was clear after his poor performance in last nights debate. Florida may still even be in play for Obama, as that is why he was there today. No Florida and Romney is cooked. By the way the Obama campaign said just today that they are not exiting any swing states despite what you might have thought you heard from Paul Begala.

      • http://twitter.com/PickledPeach PickledPeach

        O not ahead in Virginia,, polls there are D+8 when registration is R+3, plus after last night Norfolk not looking good for O. Ohio tied and trending Romney. Undecided focus group from Ohio moved to Romney after debate last night. The other states all tied or margin of error, even with high D counting. Romney rising in PA & Michigan. Bye Bye Zippy

  • Theymustbemorons

    Bless your heart, Mr. J! Your airport security line story is one perfect scene in a movie that should be, but probably won’t be made. You are the best!

  • antielitist

    Excellent post but could you please explain the difference between a boat and a ship? I confess I haven’t got a clue.;

    • Deapster

      Captain told us a boat is what you take when the ship is sinking and if the boat is sinking, you swim.

      • antielitist

        Heh.
        :grin:

      • antielitist

        I found this.

        Among sailing vessels, the distinction between ships
        and boats is that a ship is a square-rigged craft with at least three
        masts, and a boat isn’t. With regard to motorized craft, a ship is a
        large vessel intended for oceangoing or at least deep-water transport,
        and a boat is anything else.

        But that’s too much to remember. Try this: ships have
        to be big enough to carry boats, and boats have to be small enough to be
        carried by ships.

        There are exceptions, of course. Many commercial
        fishing craft, for example, are sizable oceangoing vessels, yet they’re
        almost invariably called boats. Similarly for submarines, built by
        General Dynamics’ Electric Boat Division. The Great Lakes are pretty
        deep, and one sees certain large vessels on them that to all appearances
        are ships, but in fact said vessels are commonly called ore boats.
        However, these exceptions mar the classic purity of the answer above, so
        we’ll pay them no mind.

  • antielitist

    Never mind.

    Among sailing vessels, the distinction between ships
    and boats is that a ship is a square-rigged craft with at least three
    masts, and a boat isn’t. With regard to motorized craft, a ship is a
    large vessel intended for oceangoing or at least deep-water transport,
    and a boat is anything else.

    But that’s too much to remember. Try this: ships have
    to be big enough to carry boats, and boats have to be small enough to be
    carried by ships.

    There are exceptions, of course. Many commercial
    fishing craft, for example, are sizable oceangoing vessels, yet they’re
    almost invariably called boats. Similarly for submarines, built by
    General Dynamics’ Electric Boat Division. The Great Lakes are pretty
    deep, and one sees certain large vessels on them that to all appearances
    are ships, but in fact said vessels are commonly called ore boats.
    However, these exceptions mar the classic purity of the answer above, so
    we’ll pay them no mind.

    • Popsmoke

      Lets make it a little bit easier… The difference between a boat and a ship is……
      You can put a boat on a ship….

      • TeakWoodKite

        :) I resemble that remark.

        • buzzlatte3

          POPs: But you CAN also put a ship on a boat. Think before you make an idiotic retort.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mary.cusack Mary Cusack

    if romney doesn’t win the electoral vote it won’t matter how many people want him. obama has all the high number electoral states.

    • Deapster

      Don’t be so sure – the next few weeks is when it all solidifies.

  • HELENK2

    question

    do reservists normally get deployed on annual naval exercises??
    a commenter at the crawdad hole mentioned that they are having the annual naval exercise in the waters near Iran and her neighbor was deployed for the first time/

  • Deapster

    Repeat of prior follow-up comment:

    Keeping sea lanes open for commerce and rapid response for a country bordered by two vast oceans and critical shipping lanes through the third is an unsuspected role of the US Navy – and we should have no intention, desire or decision to cede that role to anyone else.

    In 1917, the Brits controlled the high seas and the world’s commerce depended upon this. We were only a land army then -horses and bayonets did matter more than ships. Britain took care of that sea lane control and security obligation.

    in 2012, the US alone now commands this role.

    China may want to but they are a single ocean country, and at last report a single air craft carrier navy. Inroads by China are being made across the pole and busting through to the Indian Ocean be it Burma(Myanmar) or Pakistan.

    But right here, right now and hopefully for a long time to come, the US Navy needs to rule the seas, the global seas. Mondern life cannot continue without container ships and safe shipping lanes. And a massive two ocean Navy. Anchors Aweigh, my boys.

    (Except you kid, the skinny one with the big ears – back to the bathtub with your rubber ducks and pea shooter)

  • akaPatience

    WOW, what a story! “Collapsing” sounds GOOD.
    Yeah. If Big Media were confident in Obama’s debate performance last night, why aren’t they euphoric? Chris Matthews’ 1,824th RACISM RANT last evening was a big clue. They know Romney played Obama masterfully. THE MASK is off and I suspect even the mellifluous voice of Morgan Freeman (one of my favorite all-time actors), which I’m hearing here in OH quite often now, can’t provide enough cover at this point.

  • no_longer_a_democrat

    Great story, thanks for sharing.

    I will add, the line
    “He reminds them of the popular, successful kids they were not.”

    Yes Romney does remind me of that, however romney does not seem like the arrogant elitist jocks from school. And everything he’s done since shows me he is not some arrogant rich SOB, unlike you know who.

    as for these reporters, wouldn’t surprise me one bit if they were the arrogant SOB jocks and jockettes (not sure if that’ even a word) in school. People like norah o’doneld or andrea mitchell, oh yea, I completely see them as the arrogant clicky “I’m better than you” type people in school and now as well.

  • Hokma

    “F. Chuck Todd”

    What does the “F” stand for?

    • HELENK2

      flunky

    • HObama HObamanana

      Fuckhead.

    • MarkFtLaud

      FLATULENCE

  • HELENK2
  • JohnnyTwoDog

    The US Navy and Marines call them ships.
    The guy in command of the helm is refered to as a Boat Driver.
    http://www.navy.mil/navydata/ships/lists/shipalpha.asp

    • JohnnyTwoDog

      You are making THIS an issue? Really?

      • JohnnyTwoDog

        Redirect to real issue as As Larry said,
        “We have moved to an Air Craft Carrier fleet. We have floating air fields, which are accompanied by cruisers and destroyers and other support vessels.” including submarines.
        Yes, it is not 1917, but the modern Navy still needs ships.

        • JohnnyTwoDog

          And a final but very important point:
          “The Navy is now building the next-generation attack submarine, the Virginia (SSN 774) class. The Virginia class is tailored to excel in a wide range of warfighting missions. The Virginia class has several innovations that significantly enhance its warfighting capabilities with an emphasis on littoral operations. Virginia class SSNs have a fly-by-wire ship control system that provides improved shallow-water ship handling.”

          The Navy needs SHIPS.
          http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=4100&tid=100&ct=4

    • elijahzabmom

      I learned all my military language from my favorite show, JAG.

  • HELENK2

    on Greta
    real time e-mails from benghazi to state dept and whitehouse telling them that it is a terrorist attack.

    when the video come up I will try to find it and post it

  • HARP2

    The Obama Administration knew an Al-Qaeda linked terror group
    took credit for the Benghazi attack before the ambassador’s body was
    even discovered!

    The State Department watched the attack in real time.

    More… Greta Van Susteren reported that there were US troops in Italy about an hours flight away from Benghazi but they were never called in to help.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/boom-emails-show-obama-knew-islamic-group-took-credit-for-benghazi-slaughter-2-hours-after-attack-before-ambassadors-body-discovered/#comments

  • BronwynsHarbor

    LARRY MAY BE ON BATCHELOR — I am listening now:

    http://wabcradio.com/article.asp?id=531472

    Maybe we missed hm. He goes on frequently last-minute.

    • BronwynsHarbor

      ALSO: Larry was on Batchelor last night. It was fascinating to me to listen to it via radio .. Batchelor was playing portions of it on the radio, and I could not believe how much more attentive I was to what was being said, and the tone in their voices, than when I tried watching them on TV. I cut it off to check to see if Larry is on tonight’s show. But if any of you, like I, missed the last debate, you get great commentary from Larry and others + key highlights of the debate as it was happening …

      HERE: http://wabcradio.com/sectional.asp?id=33447

  • Old Grumpy Guy

    I am disappointed to see how pro-Romney NQ has become. His economic plans are doomed to fail. I’ll tell you why:

    As a former writer of macroeconomic speeches and lectures for the directors of Shell International Petroleum, I had the chance to pick the brains of some of the greatest economic minds of the day, including the heads of the International Monetary Fund and the European Chamber of Commerce. But one of the finest minds I ever encountered was a member of Shell’s Planning Division – a German economic and social analyst whose job it was to analyze trends and predicate the future based on extrapolations of technological and social developments.

    In a long interview with him in the late 1970s, he predicted every major technological development that has come to pass and the impact these developments – like the internet, the computer, DNA analysis and many others – would have on society. He also predicted that it would not be long before the old remedies for economic and social ills would no longer be effective because of deep-seated structural changes in society in general. He also predicted that economic growth along the old lines – supported by the old institutions, the old economic engines and the old economic thinking – would not be sustainable in the long run. There was a limit to growth in manufacturing and other traditional sectors sectors of productivity, and an increasing redundancy in the yardsticks by which societies measure their economic success or failure.

    He predicted that service industries would overtake manufacturing and agriculture as the major source of jobs in the developed countries, while manufacturing would be exported to where labor was cheapest.

    It is from this perspective that I confidently assert that Romney’s plans for revitalizing the economy are so old and tired they need to be put out to pasture, as should Romney himself. The austerity measures he proposes are failing in other developed countries and will fail in the USA. The only way to revitalize economic growth is to align economic stimulus to social goals that most reasonable people would agree on – goals which help to make the general environment a better place to live in and life generally more pleasant and equitable.

    I can just hear hard-wired conservatives jumping up and crying “socialism” at this suggestion. But what I am talking about is not socialism, but what could be described as social capitalism, where broad social goals are achieved through market competition. The problem with socialism in the past was its lack of market forces. The social goals were divorced from competitive forces that would ensure that they were met effectively and efficiently. They also became divorced from the social goals that most people shared – meaningful work for all and a peaceful and stable environment in which to live and work. Jobs for jobs’ sake alone led to massive dislocations in economic activity, such as the stranglehold the coal industry had on Britain before the government stood up to the unions and cried “enough”.

    In the USA there is something similar in the massive economic dislocations caused by the croneyism on Wall Street and the way that health care in the USA is dominated by the pharmaceutical industry and its lobbyists. The US health system is one of the most inefficient and expensive in the world, and is one of the biggest cause of bankruptcy among people who cannot afford the exorbitant charges for operations.

    The necessary remedies require a bigger and more centralized government, but one which is also governed by competitive forces that ensure efficiency and the best services possible.

    You will know how vigorously, as Old Grumpy Guy, I campaigned against Barack Obama in the lead-up to the last elections because I did not like the company he appeared to be keeping. But he has proved himself to be a pragmatist and something of a visionary, and this is exactly the combination needed where only more imaginative social goals – like energy independence, a more attractive environment along with law and order – can provide an engine for future economic growth and jobs. Romney is only a pragmatist where his own selfish ambitions are concerned. A visionary he is certainly not.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mary.cusack Mary Cusack

      Did the koolaid taste good?

      • Old Grumpy Guy

        You really are a ridiculous, cliche-ridden idiot

        • http://www.facebook.com/mary.cusack Mary Cusack

          Ok you win. Only a “visonary” could watch in real time the murder of our amasador as a snuff film

    • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

      There is no way you are the *real* “Old Grumpy Guy.” Obama a “visionary”? Please.

      • Old Grumpy Guy

        Do you really think that Romney is one? It would be nice to hear an intelligent response to the actual substance of my argument.

        • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

          The moment you breathlessly labeled Obama a “visionary” is the moment you outed yourself. Sorry, no, no-one who “vigorously” campaigned against Obama would, after four dismal years, label him a “visionary.”

          • Old Grumpy Guy

            That’s because you obviously do not understand the issues or the structural changes taking place. No doubt you still think that global warming is a myth. Romney is a Luddite

            • Hokma

              You are obviously behind a little. Global warming ended over 10 yeras ago. Next . . .

              • Old Grumpy Guy

                That is the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard

                • Hokma
                  • Old Grumpy Guy

                    That article talks about a pause in global warming, not the end of it. And as I have just told Larry, I am not responding to any more comments from a bunch of bigoted blowhards. I am disgusted by what NQ has become and want no further part in it.

                    • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

                      Seriously…you lump anyone who dislikes Obama with people who “deny global warming?” I’ve volunteered and donated money to environment organizations…so much for your stereotyping. You wonder why I question whether you are the real Old Grumpy Guy or his grandson who has hijacked his account, it’s because I remember the original grumpy guy videos and that guy appeared to have some sense in him, and he was not a knee-jerk Obamabot. Post a video of yourself calling Obama a “visionary” with a straight face and maybe then I’ll believe you are who you say you are.

                    • HObama HObamanana

                      Didn’t you promise 2 hours ago that it would be your last post? Geez, enough already. Don’t you have some Obama ass-kissing to do?

            • MG6

              “Structural changes”. You mean the dismantling of the American way which has been successful for the past…since our inception as a nation?
              You mean for America to adopt a system with a proven track record of failure? Greece, Russia, China, etc… To a system that creates a political elite class (Biden? Scary…) that places Government above the people.
              What did Abraham Lincoln say at Gettingsburg: that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain–that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom–and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”
              To a socialist government which creates a dictatorship in which the people are their slaves such as China?
              The USA is not broken. It does not need to be replace. It is the left that needs to be removed as Cancer needs to be removed

            • DianaLC

              The earth is in God’s hands, now ours. I trust in HIM.

        • Deapster

          There are two choices: Obama is not the one; Romney is.

        • DianaLC

          Romney’s a visionary in the sense that all practicing Christians are–their eyes are on God. You may not believe in a higher power. I suspect that is true of you. However, my entire life has been guided by the sense that the only force worth worrying about is a divine force. That’s the only visionary thought worth having. Romney is the first candidate for POTUS in a long, long time who seems to truly feel a higher calling than just politics. I see no vision in Obama but a desire for celebrity. And I see no real concern for the poor–what did he really do in Chicago for the poor? Be honest. Romney does seem to want all Americans to be better off.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      Interesting, if overly lengthy, comment, considering the message. I think that Karl Marx was another economist and social analyst who believed that the relevance of captialism had been surpassed in history by technology and social evolution.
      Based on his writings and his performance in office during the last four years, I don’t believe that Barack Obama is a visionary. I do believe that he and his close in team of Alinskyists put on a pretty convincing act. They certainly believe that their act is good enough to dupe most American voters, as it did in 2008, when Mr. Obama was a totally unknown quantity. Were Mr. Obama, his immediate team and their greater circle of followers not exposed as such corrupt “crony capitalists” once he took office (oddly, under the guise of the very “social capitalism” that you favor), I might’ve been convinced of his sincerety and his vision.
      But alas, despite Mr. Obama’s promises of hope and change, he has proven himself to be just another materialist politician with his hand opening the lid of the taxpayer-funded cookie jar, surrounded by like-minded cronies helping themselves to multiple handfuls like greedy children on Halloween. If the country were at or near full employment as a result, this might be tolerable. But we are not. He has just changed which set of rich friends get a slice of the pie that the taxpayers baked.
      Mr. Obama and his friends have had their turn and filled their pockets in great measure, certainly enough to last them several lifetimes. Now it is Mr. Romney’s turn to deliver on his promises. And in four years, if he has achieved nothing more than Mr. Obama, we’ll fire him, too.

      • Old Grumpy Guy

        Your concerns were initially shared by me and were part of the reason I campaigned against him. But he HAS proved to be a pragmatist. And he would have achieved a lot more if he had not been so constantly blocked by a recalcitrant Congress. Romney will be a disaster. But at least you have given an intelligent rather than a knee-jerk response like that ridiculous woman who gave the cliched response about taking the koolaid

        • Hokma

          Obama is and has always been a socialist.

          What do you think Obamacare leads to and fast?

          What do you think Dodd Frank will lead to and fast in a second Obama term?

          Why did Obama take over college loans?

          Why did Obama take over GM and not simply let it go through bankruptcy court without a government paid bailout?

          What is the point of the government investment in a litany a failed green energy companies and the forcing of high gas prices?

          Obama is a socialist and, given his psychotic narcissism, probably a communist.

        • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

          I have been on this site for four years now, and while there have been times I’ve taken a break from it, I haven’t seen you here in a while. So it is just curious to me that you’d come on here suddenly, two weeks before the election, with Obama’s numbers tanking, and now you’ve suddenly decided you need to chide us for being anti-Obama assholes? Like I said earlier, I wonder if your grandson has hijacked your account, or someone is masquerading as you. You come off like one of the many paid Obots who arrive here to troll.

        • Retired_from_SPOnaj

          I have to agree that Mr. Obama has (you don’t have to shout this in caps, by the way) proved to be a pragmatist in that he and his cronies have been pragmatically corrupt. Even if Mr. Obama only serves one term, his cronies have effectively looted government coffers for all that they could possibly get in four years. That is ruthlessly pragmatic.

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      Jesus! Are you kidding? Obama a pragmatist? Grumpy, what drugs are you doing. Ignore everything else and focus on just this question–Which of the candidates has demonstrated the ability to work in a bipartisan way.
      Only one answer–Romney.
      Take a look a Woodward’s latest book which documents in detail Obama’s failure on that front. His inability to grasp the basics of economics is proof positive of his incompetence.

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      And one more thing–what the hell do you mean by “visionary.” You need to explain that. Makes you sound totally delusional.

      • Old Grumpy Guy

        Larry, your talk about bipartisanship is ridiculous. Obama’s attempts at bipartisanship were hampered by a far-right caucus of Republican spoilers who were more interested in blocking every Obama initiative rather than do what was best for the country. Your rants have become increasingly hysterical and divorced from reality. Your economic ideas, like your rants about “Obama the angry Negro”, belong to an era when racism and the oppression and victimization of minorities was a lot more prevalent than it is today. I am disgusted by what NQ has turned into and regret that I was ever a contributor to this blog. Most who have responded to my posting have been equally rude and ridiculous. This is my last post to NQ. You kids can rant among yourselves.

        • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

          I think ODD’s grandson got the keys to his account or something.

    • Hokma

      I have a BS in Economics as well as an MBA. Before starting three companies (sold one – and currently running another) I was successful in the corporate world. I have dealt with many private equity firms (Bain is one of the gold standards in that industry although I never dealt with them).

      I also know that the study of economics is a bullshit science because it is predicated on trying to predict something that is an quantitative and that is human behavior.

      Your analyst is German which means his/her predilection is for some government control. European economics has always been based on a lineage of government control going back to Kaisers and Kings. The United States was the first country that was able to use free market capitalism without government intrusion simply because the colonists feared a central government. Therefore the lineage and history of Europe and the U.S. are entirely different and still are (i.e. how many TV stations are in the UK? How many healthcare insurance companies are there in the UK?).

      There are two fundamental approaches to an economic system. One is government control and the other is capitalism free of government control. The former has proven time and again not to work while the latter is the basis for our global economy. If you were to look at the trend of GDP in the U.S. since WW II it is an impressive straight line of continued strong growth.

      However, if you look closely at any 10 year period you would see a very strong growth curve for 7-9 years and then a 1 year dip. That dip is a naturally occurring event in the cycle called a recession. Since free market capitalism is hinged on people’s confidence markets will increase in value until it reaches a threshold where they are overvalued. Then they recede (recession) till they get to a level the market feels is its value. Then it begins to grow again. The biggest joke is that Presidents create or cure recessions.

      However, Presidents can deepen or protract the impact of recessions by forcing inordinate government intervention. That is what Obama has done.

      The cure for this? Get rid of the massive government regulations and hidden taxes imposed by Obama. There is enormous capital on the sidelines just waiting for a sign of confidence on where the economy is going.

      Romney’s solution is not austerity. Your recommendations are for European socialism. That IS what got us into this mess over the past few years.

      • Old Grumpy Guy

        You are right about economics being an inexact science. One economist told me that if you ask six economists a question, you will get seven different answers – two of them Keynesian. But the gentleman I spoke of was thinking globally and predicted almost exactly what is now happening on the economic and social scene internationally. Less government and unrestrained market forces are not the answer. Better government is the answer, but it needs to be free of the ridiculous partisanship we see in Congress under the Republicans.

        • Hokma

          The systemic problems have been government.

          The mortgage meltdown was a direct result of unintended consequences from the CRA and abuse by liberal Democrats to game the system to support a constiuency. For them to turn around and blame the banks who they forced to give bad loans is a bad joke.

          Social Security is a legalized ponzi scheme that is not paying out. The Urban Institute did a study showing that the initial generation and half will get more than they paid in. But beginning with Baby Boomers and beyond they will get less and less than they paid in.

          Obamacare even though it is not yet fully instituted has already had disastrous effects on private health insurance and has driven up costs at a higher rate than previously. And it is designed to rapidly develop in nationalized healthcare – the socialist dream of Obama.

          Private enterprise creates jobs and creates wealth. Government does not create anything. All they can do is redistribute.

          While there needs to be some regulation even in a free market economy, Obama’s regulations are symbolic of excess and the single reason why we do not have a recovery. This last recession was over in 2009. Obama’s actions were not visionary – they were reckless. That spending package in 2009 resulted in no net jobs and economic stagnation.

        • DianaLC

          Not sure how you can characterize Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi as non-partisan.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Old Grumpy Guy has a BS in BS.

    • FormerLiberal9

      So we just dump 200+ years of a successful capitalist economy for the untried and unproven theories of what you are calling “social capitalism”. And all this is based on some interview with an unnamed source who you say,”…predicted every major technological development that has come to pass …”. And you think we should implement this change during that longest recession we have had since the Great Depression.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Got to give them credit. These Obots are pulling out all the stops in their adoration of The One. I’ve heard some whoppers before but this guy (?) almost takes the cake, if not the whole bakery.

        Be careful everyone: Old Grumpy Guy personally knows NostraDumbass. Probably knows Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny too.

    • DianaLC

      OGG, I did love your posts back in the day. I disagree with you on this post despite your detailed explanation. In the long run, I go with Ecclesiastes on any question. There is nothing new under the sun. We need to fear God and keep His commandments, that is all. Romney, to me is the one candidate who seems to grasp that truth. And your understanding that the company O keeps is not necessarily the kind to worry about higher forces in this universe should give you pause.

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  • Huckley

    Been in airports and have heard a lot, including Kisinger. I would consider this very credible on it’s facevalue.

  • APO_AE_09173

    Romney did what he had to do on Monday. More importantly, he dodged a major bullet. The Obama camp had prepped several “war-monger” ads to air after the foreign policy debate-all painting Mitt as this blood thirsty war mongering crusader. Lots of money spent for no use.
    ROFLMAO

    • Hokma

      I think Benghazi is unraveling very quickly as a bad cover up so Romney did not have to do anything and just let Obama unravel on his own.

      Besides, no one is voting based on anything other than the economy and jobs.

      He had to make sure that foreign policy was not a strong card for Obama and that was accomplished.

  • MG6

    Rumor has it Hillary requested the reinforcements for Stevens but was denied by someone in the Whitehouse (Val Jarrett perhaps?). BTW, where is Hillary and why has she disappeared?

    • Hokma

      I was never surprised if that was the truth. Hillary was visibly angry in the initial days of the attack and seemed to be holding back.

      • Guest

        Then she should finally put country before party and open her mouth before November 6 and tell what she knows.

      • Dissentispatriotic

        Yes, Hokma. I think Hillary was visibly angry with Obama and his team and upset over the loss of life.

    • HObama HObamanana

      Instead of a bunch of rumors I want to see some proof one way or the other. These rumors have no basis in reality unless they are backed up by some substantial attribute of fact. Enough of the speculation and finger pointing. Haven’t the Obama crew done enough of that?

    • DianaLC

      Why has Hillary disappeared? I am hoping that she and Bill see that Obama is losing it, and she is distancing herself from him.
      It’s too little and too late for me at this point But if any two people can sniff the winds of change and see through the fog of politics, Bill and Hillary can.
      I am so over politicians. That is one reason I am growing to like Romney more and more. He hasn’t made politics his only reason for living.

  • Hokma

    I think the reason Romney did not bring up Benghazi is that he does get national security briefings and he may have known about the email that just revealed that the White House Situation Room knew that it was a terrorist attack within 2 hours of starting.

    I think that means Obama himself knew the entire time the truth. If means that knowing what was going Obama went to sleep, got up in the morning, packed his bags and went to Las Vegas. It also means that Obama decided for purely political reasons to invent a cover up of the facts.

    If this is true then I think Obama should pack his bags, take Mooch and the kids and go back to wherever the hell he came from, and get no severance and his name should be removed from the ballot.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mary.cusack Mary Cusack

      It’s treason. Orange Jumpsuit for evah

  • HELENK2

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/23/Obama-unleashes-freak-show

    here comes the backtrack freak show

    sullivan – allred – wright

    low life con artists

    • DianaLC

      When I read things like this, I always calm myself by remembering now just which news outlet gets the most viewers and also how Breitbart’s reputation has been building even after his unfortunate death.

  • HELENK2
    • DianaLC

      Mine too!

      • buzzlatte3

        That ad has a ton of power to it. Excellent!

  • MG6

    Here is more on Hillary’s role on the Bengazi fiasco….or nonrole

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/18/hillarys-non-mea-culpa/

    • DianaLC

      But, she is counting on O winning so she can run in 2016. Anyway, that is implied in this resport. If O doesn’t win, I am counting on a Romney renaissance in the U.S. If she ran against him, what would her chances be if he’s got the economy moving in a better direction?

  • MG6

    Check this video fro CNN. It’s in the Ulsterman report. It’s about the repackaging of Obama’s 2008 plan for America.

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/10/24/cnn-rips-apart-pathetic-new-obama-plan/

    • DianaLC

      Good video, and maybe CNN does want to be a viable network after Romney is elected.
      I wonder if O never considered that he might have helped the U.S. more by donating all the campaign money he has wasted to our Treasury. And for a “green” candidate, how does he justify the glossy mailing? Of the poor dying trees and the recycling fiasco.

  • HELENK2

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/24/arts/television/obama-is-prominent-in-seal-team-six-weinstein-film.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&pagewanted=all&_r=0

    obama movie on bin laden being rewritten to give backtrack a bigger role.
    I want this movie to be the biggest movie failure ever.
    I want it to lose as much money as backtrack has wasted on so-called “green companies”

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      It already is a failure. Its debut is on the National Geographic Channel, and then it’s going directly to NetFlix. In the movie industry, that’s failure.

      • HELENK2

        i hope no one orders it from netflix

  • HELENK2

    Iowa Hawk

    David Burge
    ‏@iowahawkblog

    Your 12 day extended News Cycle forecast: high
    pressure abortion front with heavy rapes, followed by birth control.
    Chance of economy: 0%.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=588665601 Jody Fidelis

    Down with Barackracy!*

    *Barackracy. Noun. (1) A combination of Barack Obama and bureaucracy. To be used when discussing his political agenda. (2) The bureaucratic policies, emphasizing layers of non-elected government officials (Czars) , as put forth by the administration of President Barack Obama. (3) A regime of governing that does everything backwards to the detriment of the citizenry.

    VOTE ROMNEY/RYAN 2012

  • DianaLC

    Love the new photo of the dejected Chrissy M. I notice no one sitting very near. No one wanted that leg to start twitching next to him or her.

  • no_longer_a_democrat

    LOL! Love that photo. Thanks for posting.