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Was Iran Behind Benghazi?

* Bumped Up *

Regular readers of NoQuarter know that I am no hawk in favor of starting a war with Iran. I think it would be foolish and self-destructive for us and Israel. But when you look at what happened in Benghazi, it is clear that the elimination of the CIA base there serves the interests of Iran and not Al Qaeda. Why do I think that?

Let’s start with the fact that the U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi was not a “Consulate.” Although that term has been widely used in the aftermath of the attack, I ask you one simple question–WHERE WERE THE CONSULAR OFFICERS? A CONSULATE is a place where foreigners go to get visas to visit the United States. The U.S. Diplomats who process those requests/applications are known officially as “CONSULAR AFFAIRS” Officers. There were no REPEAT no Consular Affairs officers detailed to or based in Benghazi.

So what we had was a diplomatic mission that appears to have been set up solely for the purpose of providing Diplomatic cover to the CIA operation, which we now know, was operating out of the location known as the “Annex.” What was the CIA doing?

The cover story circulating is that CIA was buying up and destroying “manpads.” A manpad is a nifty nickname for a hand held surface-to-air missile like a Stinger or SAM. The press has reported on this:

A joint military-civilian team made up of U.K., French, U.S. and Libyan personnel have been in country since last August helping to track down the large numbers of weapons left by Gadhafi’s regime.

The U.S. government estimates Gadhafi’s forces had about 20,000 MANPADS in their armory at the time of the regime’s collapse, raising fears that the weapons could fall into the hands of terrorist organizations.

But those manpads were never a serious threat.

Why? No NATO aircraft were fired on with manpads during the short war to oust Qaddafi. If such weapon systems were as plentiful and operationally ready as the public story tries to pretend, then we would have seen the NATO planes regularly engaged. They were not.

So what was going on at that annex? There are reports out of Syria that one of the rebel forces fighting to oust Bashir Assad are manned by Libyans. What if the CIA base in Benghazi was a recruiting and training center for fighters who were then sent to Turkey and on to Syria? Any evidence for that? Here is CNN in July of this year:

Their war for freedom in Libya may be over, but almost a year after they won the battle for the Libyan capital, a group of fighters have a new battlefield: Syria.

Under the command of one of Libya’s most well known rebel commanders, Al-Mahdi al-Harati, more than 30 Libyan fighters have made their way into Syria to support the Free Syrian Army rebels in their war against President Bashar al-Assad’s regime.

Al-Harati, who commanded the Tripoli Revolutionary brigade — which was the first group of rebels to enter the Libyan capital last August — has been in Syria for months leading some of his former men and Syrian military defectors who have joined his “Liwaa al-Umma” or “The Banner of the Nation” brigade.

Guess who Ambassador Stevens was meeting shortly before his home came under attack? Turkey’s Ambassador to Libya. What in the hell is Turkey’s Ambassador to Libya doing in Benghazi? How about inspecting the training facility and coordinating with the U.S. Government on the movement of Libyan fighters from Libya to Syria via Turkey?

Iran, who supports Syria’s Assad, has a very effective intelligence organization. Once they learned that Libya was supplying fighters in Syria, do you think there is any chance that they (the Iranians) would want to shutdown that operation? Iran and Libya do have a history. Iran, for example, is believed to have paid Libya to carry out the bombing of Pan Am 103. Iran still has intel operators on the ground in Libya.

Here are some interesting questions.

1. Did Iran infiltrate the fighters being trained by the United States and, in the process, gather intel that they subsequently used to target both the “Consulate” and the CIA Annex?

2. Did Iran prepare a cover for action and plant information on Facebook and other social media sites claiming credit for the attack in the name of Ansar Al Sharia?

This much is certain–the attack on 9-11 was pre-planned and pre-ordained. The results? The U.S. mission and intelligence operation in Benghazi was destroyed in total. A logical question to ask–whose interest was served? While we cannot rule out a Sunni-jihadi strike, there is a plausible case to be made that Iran’s Revolutionary Guards pulled off an absolutely brilliant strike and kicked our American ass.

Was this an act of war? Yes. But let me ask you a question–if the United States trained third country nationals who carried out the assassinations of scientists in Iran, would that be an act of war? If the United States imposed severe economic sanctions that harm the Iranian economy, is that an act of war?

My point–if we start down the road of “who threw the first punch,” our hands are not clean and Iran can make a valid case that they are protecting themselves as well. Not excusing them, just explaining.

  • ScottLucas11

    The post is ill-informed about Iran and its approach in North Africa and Middle East — Claiming that Ansar Al Sharia is a Tehran front ruins any chance of understanding what happened in Benghazi, let alone in Iran’s position vis-a-vis the US on economic front, in nuclear negotiations, and in attempt to maintain regional influence

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  • http://twitter.com/BombsAndDollars Bombs And Dollars

    Obama denied requests for security beforehand then told the military to stand down during the attack.

  • Deapster

    Carter …Iranians …Carter …Iranians … Carter … 11th hour loss ….. Carter ……. Iranians ….. Reagan ……. Iranians …. .Crater …… 11th hour loss …….. must be deja vu all over again time going on in Obambi’s prodigious, coke-addled brain …… wag the dog ….bow wow …..

  • MrLynn

    AfroCom (?) caller to Rush says POTUS had to know what was happening in Benghazi in real time, that C130s were at ready, and said, “No help.”

    Get this faux President out of office.

    /Mr Lynn

  • Retired_from_SPOnaj

    Interesting theory, Larry. It certainly withstands the “who benefits?” test. And when one asks the logical follow on question, i.e., “What stops the US-armed Sunni jihadis, having taken out the Consulate and the safehouse at the behest of Iran, from just proceeding to Syria and taking on Assad, anyway?”, one has to then answer, “Who that wants to take out Assad, besides the US, has the logistical capability to relocate the jihadis from Libya to Syria and provide continuing logistics support to them?”
    I don’t have an answer to that last question. Anyone? Because of the Iranians concluded that there wasn’t anyone to make this happen (they are smart enough to ask the question, I assure you), Larry’s theory makes pretty good sense.

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  • Popsmoke

    Just for kicks…
    http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/wsh2013/index.html

    So we the United States sell arty ammo to both Israel and Lebanon… Is that like training and arming jidhadis?

  • Eyes Wide Open
  • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

    Breaking news on Fox: Obama admin denied at least three areal-time requests for help in Benghazi, that the nearby team that eventually went to help did so explicitly against orders, that there were two drones overhead (at least one with lasers pointed at the attacking motars, air support on standby, and troops within hundreds of miles immediately ready to help. Against all of this, Fox says everyone was told repeatedly to stand down while the firefights went on for 4+ hours.

    If this is true and can be substantiated, Obama needs to seriously explain himself, especially why the White House and State Department watched this live and not only refused action when repeatedly requested but told everyone to stand down (which is what Fox is now reporting). This is so incredibly outrageous. Obama should immediately resign in disgrace for his failure to defend America. If not, Congress should look for immediate impeachment.

    • HELENK2

      Fox News Politics
      ‏@foxnewspolitics

      EXCLUSIVE: CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say http://fxn.ws/Sd6Tey

      • HObama HObamanana

        Thanks, as always, for the link Helen.

    • HObama HObamanana

      This is very damning and damaging. The only reason I can think that anyone would intentionally feed FOX bad information would be to discredit them so that what they have already reported (while other networks have remained silent) will be called into question. But it would seem that with a story this potentially explosive that FOX would show due diligence and verify the source of the story and it’s credibility before publishing it.

      • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

        I suspect they are aware of this as the repeated return to the topic go into detail about how solid the sourcing and reporting is. The initial reports are coming from a reporter at the Pentagon. No names yet.

        • HObama HObamanana

          Well I will certainly watch Bret Baier tonight for all the details. I believe this story. It only makes sense that the people on the ground would call for reinforcements when they realized the jig was up and they were outnumbered.

          The look on Panetta’s face during the interviews I’ve seen was quite drawn and his body language told me he was lying. I want to know where Petraeus is and why he hasn’t spoken out. And I am concerned that when Congress does actually get the Administration’s story, it will be behind closed doors during a classified briefing and we may never find out for certain what they have to say for themselves.

    • HObama HObamanana

      I say that we impeach Obama the old fashioned way, we vote the asshole out of office in 11 days.

      • foxyladi14

        works for me.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      Perhaps the de facto POTUS, Valerie Jarrett, should be held to account for her decision. Oh, wait, that isn’t a constitutionally-authorized position.
      Which brings up an interesting point. Let’s say that Valerie Jarrett did, in fact, make the decision. What could Congress do?

  • bbf

    What happened in Libya:

    In Libya NATO, supported by the Obama Administration, launched a massive air and sea bombardment in support of armed bands of mercenaries thereby destroying Libya’s economy and civil society. The unleashing of armed gangster-mercenaries led to the savaging of urban life in Libya and devastation in the countryside. The NATO powers eliminated the secular regime of Colonel Gadhafi and along with having him murdered and mutilated by its mercenaries. NATO oversaw the wounding, imprisonment, torture and elimination of tens of thousands of civilian Gadhafi supporters and government workers. NATO and the Obama administration backed the puppet regime as it embarked on a bloody pogrom against Libyan citizens of sub-Saharan African ancestry as well a sub-Sahara African immigrant workers – groups who had benefited from Gadhafi’s generous social programs. The new Libyan government announced that the new law of the land will be SHARIA law, while the Obama administration pretends that they are responsible for a “success” in Libya, and continue to be silent on the thousands of Black Libyans who have been executed…as have the Republicans……

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lj0LH6hGBg&feature=related

    • HObama HObamanana

      They removed the video. I have seen one about this subject before though and it is damning.

      You are absolutely correct that the lawlessness and rise of militant Islam in Libya is all on Obama and NATO. They are the ones that brought all of this about while pretending as if it were some great victory.

  • HObama HObamanana

    Oh my. It sure seems as if the seemingly disconnected bad actors are actually very connected allies.

    Iran, Al Qaeda, and Obama’s farcical ‘blood on his hands’ defense policy

    Yet despite a federal judge’s recent affirmation of evidence that Iran played a key role in the worst terrorist attacks on US soil, despite Iran providing safe haven for Al Qaeda’s “shadow shura” following 9/11, despite Iran’s proliferation of sophisticated weaponry into the hands of insurgents responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan, despite the US Treasury Department’s 2011 announcement that it was conducting investigations pursuant to its discovery of a “secret deal” between the government of Iran and Al Qaeda, and despite Treasury’s October 2012 announcement that it had identified more Al Qaeda operatives based in Iran, the Obama administration’s policy regarding Iran’s sponsorship of terrorists who kill Americans has been anything but “clear.”

  • KenoshaMarge

    Interesting theory that fits the facts. If nothing else it gives us all something to think about. Those of us who “think” it’s a good idea to “think” for ourselves and not swallow administration or media bullshit.

    • Hokma

      Good one!

      Left out one “B” on the Obama said: “Bullshiter.”

      • KenoshaMarge

        That’s true. But then it gets tiresome pointing out Oblahblah being all classy and presidential doesn’t it?

  • MG6

    O/T but maybe not so much?

    http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/10/25/is_obama_taking_ad_ideas_from_vladimir_putin

    How closely married is the Obama administration to Putin?

    Interesting read….on the GRU

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GRU

    Don’t know much about conspiracies but Obama’s team is getting kinda spookie.

    • HObama HObamanana

      OMG! This really is frightening. Comrade Obama comes out of the closet.

      • Retired_from_SPOnaj

        Barack Obama has never been in the closet. He stands before us naked, and the press won’t take a photo.

  • Fred82

    Actually Larry,

    I believe that the attack on the CIA base in Benghazi would serve the interests of al Qaida. I do believe that your theory has merit and is a very real possibility however.

    Then again, who is to say that this wasn’t a join Iran-al Qaida job. Al Qaida and Iran are not BFFs but they have been known to work together in the pursuit of mutual interests.

    • Sally Vaci

      Fred, did you listen to the entire Batchelor show? It was a MULLAHgatawny stew! It didn’t dawn on me till this morning. There were so many clues dropped about Iran re: Benghazi re: Lebanon re: Syria re: Turkey/Kurds re: Jordan re: sanctions being circumvented . . . holy shiite, Iran is busting a big time move.

      And then Ledeen mentioned that the rumor last night was some Iranian VIP had just landed in D.C. and was on his way to the White House for “meetings.”

      • geoffgo

        No matter who was behind the op, the fact remains that the two ex-SEALS were a huge tactical surprise to the enemy forces attacking the mission compound.
        They had to disobey two direct orders to stand down and run from the annex to the mission compound. They were an unexpected engaging force.
        They were “lasing” the enemy positions 3-4 hours into a second wave of the much reinforced attack.
        Now given they knew everyone upstairs already knew the attack was underway, why would they do that in the middle of a firefight, unless THEY FULLY EXPECTED HELP WOULD ARRIVE in the form of drone or “Spectre” gunship or F-18 raining down death on the enemy positions.
        Were they wondering were the help was, as they fought to the death? But, they weren’t in the operation loop, so they heroically gave their lives to protect US personnel. Did they recognize they’d been betrayed?

  • HELENK2
  • HObama HObamanana

    I can’t speak for anyone else, but John Bolton’s mustache scares the hell out of me. I can actually envision a horror movie with his mustache being the evil villain. Like some undead zombie that just keeps coming back every time you don’t shoot it in the brain. Or maybe a superhero that stops everything in it’s path because nothing in it’s right mind would challenge it.

    • elijahzabmom

      I like John Bolton. I understand he worked for “evil” Bush but he’s been a straight shooter on the Libya issue. His mustache is fine with me.

      • Hokma

        His hairstyle and mustache are a throwback to the ’70s. He desperately needs a stylist.

        • HObama HObamanana

          Or a good screenwriter.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      The milk association supposedly was willing to pay him millions to be included in the “Got milk?” ad campaign, but he refused, saying that he only drank Scotch these days.

  • Popsmoke

    Bada bing……

    • TeakWoodKite

      :)

  • Hokma

    I’m writing this while I’m listening to Larry on radio . . . .

    Not only is this a brilliant analysis it is the only plausible explanation for what took place and why.

    It would also explain why Romney (who is getting national security briefings) would have stayed away from Benghazi in the last debate and has avoided talking about it on the campaign trail.

    It is also understandable why Obama could not release the truth

    However the question still remains why the Ambassador did not better security with him.

    Also, why do a cover up particularly one as flimsy and ignorant as the one with the video? All they had to do was “no comment” and “we are investigating.”

    This would also lend credence to the rumor of an election eve attack by the U.S. against either Iranian backed militants or against iran itself.

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  • MarkFtLaud

    11 DAYS TO GO: ALERT TO NQ:

    EC update: RCP 191, NC, FL, VA, NH gone 261 and maybe ice cream of the 2nd Maine CD. Ryan went there…the media markets bleed into NH. Ok lets say 261. Dont need Ohio 18 need Wisc (tied) 10 or Mich 16 (tied) or Iowa -1 or Nev -1 6 EV each 12, or PA 20….or just Ohio 16. We win If OMyNoClothes One wins all except one of the 6 EV (Iowa or Nev) we lose.

    • MarkFtLaud

      surprised no comments on my post i got real clear politics to change their ec proj map today for Maine 11 days Nq not LIBYA never Larry… we are at 261 LETS focus

    • HObama HObamanana

      I would prefer that Romney run the table just to really rub victory in the face of the Obama liberal liars.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Walker/525030669 Mark Walker

    re-post – Any idea why there was a drone flying over the site at the time of the attack?

    • TeakWoodKite

      It made public prior to 911, that drone tech was in use. It has been in use for most of the year.
      It was repeated that BO was long to compile targets. shortly after that

  • HELENK2

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/25/uk-reject-us-request-bases-iran

    this is interesting
    UK says no way to US to use bases for Iran bombing

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Walker/525030669 Mark Walker

    Any idea why a “drone” was overhead at the time of the attack?

    • http://www.facebook.com/mary.cusack Mary Cusack

      Where else do you think Obama gets his snuff films. He jerks off to seeing Americans die

    • Eyes Wide Open

      One of the weapons used had to have an aerial view. An eye in the sky directing operations?

  • HELENK2
    • HELENK2
      • DianaLC

        One does wish that Krauthammer would do a psychological analysis of Biden. There is something really, really deranged about him.

    • KenoshaMarge

      We would the public would not forget. Like they appear, for the most part of have forgotten Agent Brian Terry. The families of those slain in the line of duty have a right to know as much about their deaths as can be told without harming National Security. I am talking about actual “National Security” not covering the ass of some politician.

      It would appear however that the MSM is doing it’s level best to see that the public doesn’t “know” much of anything. Far more attention has been paid to the Lance Armstrong story than the deaths in Benghazi.

  • akaPatience

    Interesting and plausible theory. There could be several reasons for the administration’s muddled message about the Benghazi attack, and this could be one of them. A big one. If it’s true, I wonder why the attackers didn’t take out the Turkish diplomat since they had the chance?

    BTW, I don’t know if any of you noticed it in the foreign policy debate but at one point Romney raised his eyebrows and made a remark about needing to be careful that US weapons don’t fall into the wrong hands in the ME because they could be used against us. It made me think of one of Larry’s recent articles.

    I wonder if Petraeus’ has been out of sight for political reasons? Leftists don’t like him (Betrayus) and if he’s responsible for this major screw-up, it would reflect badly on Obama for putting him in charge of the CIA.

  • Theymustbemorons

    Mr. J, thanks again for an astonishing post. Please, keep connecting those dots. This story is not only tragic, it’s chilling. How ironic that the Turkish Ambassador had the “good luck” to leave right before the attack began. How convenient that the movie “trailer” was waiting on YouTube (I’ve heard it was posted there since July; is that so?) — waiting to be used as an excuse for what might really be an act of war.

  • binky354

    Slightly o/t: These kids are being allowed to determine our future!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDTJN4j9-EI

    • DianaLC

      I assume that most of these young people are standing on a campus of “higher education” in Ohio. Goes to show that not only does our media keep people in the dark, our professors do too. But, heck, I bet they feel good about themselves because they are being politically active.
      Now, I’m going to go scream.

      • binky354

        Yep. Ohio State.

        • buzzlatte3

          Obama’s kind of voter! Uninformed, uninterested and unconcerned that anything he does really affects them or others. SCREAMING at the computer screen!

    • KenoshaMarge

      To bad fools like these don’t keep their voting to American Idol.

  • wayne

    Also Larry this may help to support your excellent articles assertions. This is from april of 2012 and it documents Iran’s support and hijacking of the Ansar al Sharia movement…they are joined at the hip

    http://yementimes.com/en/1568/news/781/Saudi-Arabia%C2%A0accuses%C2%A0Iran-of-supporting-Ansar-Al-Sharia-in%C2%A0Yemen.htm

    • TeakWoodKite

      according to analyses and research papers from Saudi researchers in academic centers in Al-Riyadh.

      Any suggestions which ones they might be?

  • wayne

    Larry great job, but you asked if you were the first to see this? I think not, Mike Reagan published in “American Thinker” on Oct. 5 (an insider conversation site used by Rush and other similar level media commentators like an off street coffee house) an article titled ‘A kernel of Truth’ at the tail end of the article which I highly recommend he states:

    “Iran for its part is glad to assist the Assad regime and its Russian and Chinese protectors; Iran’s mullahs are elated to help promote such a strong diversion for our attention, since all the Iranians need now is time to complete their nuclear mischief. Israel is understandably dismayed that we are so easily diverted from the greater tangible threat that Iran currently presents.

    And Ambassador Stevens knew personally all the parts of the Frankenstein monster this administration has been cobbling together. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly — Stevens had ‘em on speed-dial. He was following orders, doing the bidding of this administration and his boss, Secretary of State Clinton, overseeing and coordinating the “Intelligence Agency Operatives (from several countries)” with their logistical needs.

    If you, my fellow citizens, are as stunned as I am to find this all out now, let me help the still doubting Thomases with one additional fact. It has been reported that Mr. Stevens’ last meeting in his official capacity ended at 8:00 PM, an hour and a half before the attacks began, and whom was it with? The Turkish consul general. How would you like to have been a fly on that wall?

    The loss of Ambassador Stevens throws a monkey wrench in the works. Whatever the truth of Mr. Stevens and his associate’s deaths, the greatest beneficiary, at least for the moment, is Mr. Putin. With the world press paying closer attention to the region, it will most likely be increasingly difficult to operate the proxy war, at least temporarily.

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/10/building_on_a_kernel_of_truth.html#ixzz2ALaF2yXD

    • bbf

      Ambassador Stevens was murdered by the same group of so-called “democracy-seeking” rebels whom he and the Obama administration armed and supported in NATO’s illegal invasion of Libya.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNl7RyDBel8

  • HELENK2
    • DianaLC

      It does hurt to watch it, but everyone should.

      • mgm

        Powerful and highly disturbing, even if we did already know it. Obama really frightens me with his naivete and his arrogant assumption that he always knows more than anyone else–If you’re going to lie to Americans for national security reasons, at least make up a plausible lie that can’t be easily disproved. Then again, although he may have made it through law school, he has evidenced a remarkable lack of common sense, which should terrify all of us.

    • HObama HObamanana

      WOW! I agree with Diana, everyone should watch this.

  • Eyes Wide Open

    The Iran thing makes sense. How involved is Jarrett, besides her birth with Iran. Could there be plots within plots? I have the feeling that the Ambassador was meant to die. Were the two Seals that were killed, involved in the take down of Osama?

    • TeakWoodKite

      How involved is Jarrett?
      “Useful tool” or double agent?

      • Eyes Wide Open

        Somehow I doubt what and who she is is secret to Obama.

    • bbf

      FROM ExposeObama.com

      Ambassador Stevens Murdered By Terrorists He Helped Bring To Power

      The enthusiastic celebration of Arab Spring by the American left has at last been repudiated by the gruesome realities of Islamic Jihad. But don’t expect to hear much about this sudden intrusion of brutal fact into the left’s pathetic dabblings in American foreign policy. Politically embarrassing events such as the failure to protect American diplomats being murdered and dragged through the streets before cheering throngs rarely make for lasting headlines,especially not when a Democrat president has ignored advance warning of the threat which he more than anyone else was responsible for bringing about.

      “Once the US successfully overthrew [Muammar] Gaddafi and began focusing on stabilizing Libya,[Ambassador Christopher] Stevens ceased to be a useful idiot and became a useless nuisance.” This assessment by Frontpage Magazine’s Daniel
      Greenfield goes directly to the heart of the left’s fantastic belief that becoming best buddies with Islamic terrorists renders American dhimmis immune from a murderous payoff when their services are no longer required.

  • HELENK2

    Witnesses says Syrian army fires heavy artillery barrages at
    southern neighborhood of Damascus, hours after accepting ceasefire -

    they have a really strange idea of honor.
    their word means nothing

  • DianaLC

    For personal reasons, I’ve been so distracted by the murder of the little girl recently in my state and now the discovery that the confessed killer was a 17-year-old boy. I had suspected it was teenager all along since I am completely familiar with the community. This crime is horrific.
    And now I am more horrified by these possible complicated and dangerous entanglements in Libya. I was waiting for LJ’s promised next post. I knew the Turkish ambassador had something to do with this. Not that Turkey itself had a hand in the attack, but that the Turkey/Syria problems had something to do with that. I had just forgotten about the Pan Am bombing and the Libya/Iran connection. It’s just getting too confusing and frightening.
    I will say that I do not trust Obama to be dealing with these extremely dangerous situations and being the one to make the major decisions. I can understand now what he might be covering up and why he would want to. But his juvenile method of trying to cover up the story has just made everything more tense.
    LJ, who in the CIA, State Dept., and military would give the best advice about how to move on from here? Can we trust that anyone in the top positions to make sound decisions here?

  • MG6

    Remember this gal?…
    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=8EHDyVr61JU&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D8EHDyVr61JU

    She is one brave patriot. She now has a new blog….one determine eyes wide open Sista!

    http://emergingcorruption.com/

  • TeakWoodKite

    Just for the perspective…have we not been “at war” with Iran since 1979?
    A very thoughtful insight LJ, thanks.

  • HObama HObamanana

    I don’t like where you are going with this Larry and suspect that you know a lot more than you are revealing. What you propose is entirely logical and that’s probably what bothers me more than anything. Iran does have the most to lose with their ally in Assad being taken out. They are also facing strong sanctions that are hurting them directly, thus a need to lash out and score one against the Great Satan.

    But where does the call from Ayman al-Zawahiri for revenge the day before the attacks come in? Are we to imagine that this is a mere coincidence? And if that is so how could the Iranians have known to strike on the day after al-Zawahiri’s call to arms?

    Whoever carried out these attacks knew where we were most vulnerable and when the best time to strike would be. They had people not only at the Consulate but in route to the annex in various locations if I can trust what I’ve read. If it was Iran behind this then it is a declaration of war upon us. And our enemy is not just some widely spread terrorist network and ideology but an actual country with limited borders and known targets.

    I sure hope we have an awful lot of those newfangled aircraft carrier thingies, cause I got a feeling we are going to be using them in the near future if you are right.

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      I don’t rule out an AQ inspired assault, but I don’t know anyone else who has connected these dots. You lay out all possible scenarios and then try to establish where the evidence is to support the various theories.

      • HObama HObamanana

        I appreciate your methodology. It’s the only methodology that makes any sense. But it’s those pesky facts (the elusive evidence) that are so hard to nail down because we have either a schizophenic administration, a ton of people that haven’t a clue what the hell they are doing or a massive coverup because the truth isn’t something they want the American people to be in on. Perhaps all three.

        I think that they know who did this but won’t come right out and admit it because they know that the American people would demand a strong and swift response. And Obama would be toast. Burnt toast to be precise. But that’s just my gut reaction. I have little faith in the Obama Administration and don’t believe anything that it says. I know for a fact that everything they say or do has a political consideration before any other consideration and that they are willing and prepared to come up with the most preposterous lies to hold onto power. Every one of them.

      • MarkFtLaud

        We need payback, Larry. After 11-7 or more like 1/21
        Time to be like the Romans….harm a Roman and you will pay.

        • TeakWoodKite

          re: payback;
          Karmic loans are difficult to fund.

          • MarkFtLaud

            Not really. We are Americans.

      • piattq

        This is astounding Larry. But really makes sense. Equally astounding is the almost complete silence about Benghazi among the big media with the single exception of Fox. I don’t think the administration is trying to cover up a secret operation/conduit to Syria so much as the other part of that equation that you point out—that this is really a daring strike against the US by the nation of Iran and as such is an act of war. Political kryptonite. My understanding of economic sanctions and actions is that they fall short of being a recognized act of war. Economic sanctions generally do not directly kill people even though they may hurt.

    • http://twitter.com/dbostan Dan Bostan

      I like LJ’s approach.
      Let the facts lead the way…

  • HELENK2

    off topic

    you gotta love it

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/10/25/veterans-group-buys-airtime-during-bin-laden-propaganda-movie-to-run-anti-obama-ads/

    veterans group buy anti-obama ads to run during bin laden propaganda movie

  • Dissentispatriotic

    Is this what the WH and State Dept are trying to cover up? It wouldn’t look good before an election that Iran got one over on Barack. I’ve heard some of the expert pundits say that Petraeus rolled over on this one. Any thoughts? He’s been missing from the public scene.

    • piattq

      Today McCain seemed to be accusing both Petraeus and Hillary of shilling for O on this and McCain said this with deep regret.

  • HELENK2

    If it is Iran, would the attack be considered an act of war or because Libyian natives did the actual attack, is Iran covered??

    • TeakWoodKite

      Proxy mud?