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Hillary and Barack, The 3AM Failure [Video Update]


DONATE * “Special Ops Speak,” Larry Johnson

The 3AM phone call came, but it was not at 3AM. The phone rang a little after 1600 Lima (that’s military jargon for local) in Washington, D.C. And Hillary Clinton, David Petraeus and Barack Obama failed to answer. Their failure facilitated the deaths of Americans. In my opinion, they have blood on their hands.

Hillary’s failure? She is in charge of the bureaucracy that refused to give the so-called “Consulate” in Benghazi the security presence it needed. Why? It is now clear that because this was largely a CIA operation, State Department did not want to spend any of its resources in fortifying a position that existed largely to provide cover for an undercover CIA operation.

But Hillary’s big fail came when the phone rang alerting her and Under Secretary Kennedy, along with the OPS CENTER, that the “Consulate” was under attack and Ambassador Stevens normally at risk. In such a situation, the Bureau of Counter Terrorism is alerted and kicks in with a tried and true response plan. Their response includes coordinating with DOD, the CIA and the FBI, just to mention a few. Hillary refused to activate and involve the Bureau of Counter Terrorism in this response.

In the aftermath of the August 1998 attacks on the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, the State Department’s CT Bureau led an overseas response within 48 hours. Same thing happened in October 2000 when the USS Cole was attacked. This time? NOTHING. I have heard, but cannot confirm, that the senior people in the CT Bureau who should have been notified were not initially alerted to the attack. Hillary apparently did not want to treat this as a terrorism incident.

Shame on her.

But the real damage came at the CIA and the White House. (Jennifer Griffin did Pulitzer work in breaking the story.)

When the attack started on the “Consulate,” the only armed force capable of responding was a mile away at the CIA Annex. Those people asked CIA Headquarters for permission to respond. DENIED. They asked again. DENIED AGAIN! After a third request, former NAVY SEAL Tyrone Woods and other members of the CIA team at the Annex said, “FUCK IT,” and went to the sound of battle.

Do you remember the heroic sacrifice of Delta Force operators Randy Shugart and Gary Gordon in 1993 in Mogadishu, Somalia? A U.S. military Blackhawk helicopter was down and the crew at risk facing hundreds of angry, armed Somalis. They were outnumbered and outgunned but went to save their brothers. Shugart and Gordon died fighting. They were awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor posthumously.

That’s what Tyrone Woods and his CIA compatriots did that night. The failure to garner the immediate support of CIA Headquarters is on David Petraeus. He always has been a political asshole masquerading as a general.

On September 11, 2012, Petreaeus proved his true colors. Tyrone Woods, if he were still on active duty, would deserve the Congressional Medal of Honor.

Let me note in passing the difference between many CIA field operators and the bureaucrats who fill the corridors back in McLean. During the Contra War in Central America, James Adkins experienced the same thing. He was the Chief of Base for the CIA operation in southern Honduras. He was ordered to withhold food from Contra troops and force them to march into Nicaragua without weapons. The Contras were promised they would be supplied with weapons once they got into Nicaragua.

Adkins followed orders under protest. However, when the Contra troops were ambushed and took casualties, with no means to return fire and defend themselves, Adkins defied orders and personally flew into Nicaragua with a helo to retrieve wounded Contras.

Adkins subsequently was fired for his bravery. Note: This happened under Ronald Reagan. I present this lest you think this kind of chicken shit behavior is exclusive to Democrats. It is not.

Now let’s turn to Barack Obama. One hour into the attack on the “Consulate,” he met with SecDef Panetta and General Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. I can understand not wanting to put an F-18 or F-16 for a bombing run. Those aircraft cannot do precision bombing in a dangerous close situation. But there reportedly was an AC-130H Spectre gunship available. That weapon would have made a difference.

How do I know? I have good friends who flew and commanded units flying those birds. The Spectre can shoot the testicle hairs off of a gnat and are particularly effective during night time ops. Tyrone Woods had identified the mortar. This means the mortar had fired more than one round. The mortar team had a spotter and were adjusting fire. Woods reportedly lasered the mortar. That means a Spectre could have come on scene and taken it out.

Obama refused to give the order to use that weapon. He was too worried about his own election and did not give a damn about the U.S. forces in danger. The phone was ringing and Barack refused to answer the call. As a result of his failure to act, two former Navy SEALS paid the ultimate price for his cowardice. Damn you Barack Obama. Damn you.

UPDATE: If you haven’t seen this video and heard this caller, it is worth your time. The Lieutenant Colonel is the real deal and knows what he is talking about:

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  • http://twitter.com/ImaLindatoo Im a Linda too

    Thank you for this. I’m passed mad, now I’m just sick and sad every time I hear more. What’s upsetting me more? Our ignorant voters who are not paying attention to what this means our president tried to do and did to Americans and our brave military. Obama lied and Americans died.

  • binky354

    Embedded in this article is an excellent video, slightly off topic, about Obama’s relationship to Israel. I doubt many American Jews will see it. I see Obama’s reaction to the Benghazi attack having something to do with his love fest with Muslims:

    Factually correct and powerful:

    http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2012/09/awesome-biggest-anti-obama-pro-romney.html

  • Dave L.

    I think that Obama answered the phone, but he handed it off to Mooch-hell, because he had a n early tee time with Panetta , Pateraus, and Hillary !

  • graywolf

    Dempsey is another political General dressed up like an opera singer.

  • Justine00

    Sorry to repeat my question from the Petraeus article, but:
    So, what’s the deal with the firing of the ME Admiral (Gaouette) and Africom General (Ham)?
    http://www.africom.mil/getArti
    http://www.stripes.com/news/na

  • http://twitter.com/PennsylvaniaRed PennsylvaniaRed
    • http://twitter.com/PennsylvaniaRed PennsylvaniaRed

      BTW I’m not a Rush fan but this caller caught my attention yesterday. Thanks Larry for bumping this up!

  • TeakWoodKite

    I wish it was you taking the call, LJ. What amazing people we have serving this nation.
    What thisOfficer just said was in lieu of a POTUS “no response” a standing order is prime. Obama would have had to said “No”.
    Obama is a yellow coward. How can any one follow him knowing he is? Barry should be removed via the 25th….like tomorrow.

  • foxyladi14

    Thanks Larry

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  • http://lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com/ Canaan

    ““The minute I found out what was going on, I gave three very clear directives — Number 1, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to,” the president said … http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/27/obama-avoids-question-on-whether-americans-in-libya-were-denied-requests-for/#ixzz2AWfPp538

    Do whatever? There’s nothing ‘very clear’ about that ‘directive.’ Of course, it’s most likely a lie anyway.

    Nothing on the NYT. NYT now stands for New York Treason. I know reasonably intelligent, affluent liberal New Yorkers who still consider the New York Treason a valid news source. Romney is right, it’s gotten so bad, how do you talk to them about it without implying they’re stupid, which only makes them defensive?

  • MarkFtLaud

    I Larry, I wonder how many pardons Obama will be giving?

    • FormerLiberal9

      Can he give himself a Pardon?

      • MarkFtLaud

        He has one. It would be messy.

    • Hokma

      and to whom . . . .

      • MarkFtLaud

        Holder for one. Jeez he will have a long list. Bush only gave I think 8 and not to Libby Cheneys Chief of Staff over Valerie being outed (larrys friends). Bush gave his pardons to minor infractions decades old.

  • Dave L.
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  • piattq

    I am just overwhelmed by this story and worse yet, the failure of most media to cover this story let alone investigate it. Here is what I am going to do about it and I invite any and all to join me. I AM DECLARING SUNDAY NOV. 4 MY NATIONAL BENGHAZI DAY. I AM SETTING AN EMPTY CHAIR IN MY FRONT YARD AND I AM ADDING A SIGN: REMEMBER 9-11-2012 BENGHAZI—VOTE WITH YOUR HEART. I may set it out there sooner but it will definitely be there on Sunday Nov. 4. It’s the least I can do. I’m glad I have voted. Wish I could double down.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mary.cusack Mary Cusack

      I posted this on facebook hope it goes viral!

  • randi
    • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

      Great albeit disturbing video. Even the (supposed) D’s in the comment section are beginning to ‘get’ this. Well, here’s hoping…

  • DianaLC

    I can’t add much to what others have written. But thanks to Larry for evaluating the call that Rush got from the Lieutenant Colonal. I listened to that yesterday when someone else (I forget who–but thank you) posted it in the thread. It seemed to me he knew what he was talking about, but I like having LJ’s validation. From the sound of his voice, I could tell that he was greatly upset and that he was sad about what transpired in Benghazi.

    The most frightening thing to me about this incident is that it brings up a possibility of something that I used to fear (and in a way still do). What happens when the majority of those people who are serving in the military and who have served in the military decide they will not serve the CIC? Military coups are something I’ve always deemed bad, or should I say “non optimal.” But, now I find myself wondering……
    Lately with all the military and ex-military members stepping up to express their disdain for the CIC, shouldn’t the rest of the country get their heads out of their asses and pay attention? And, I’m finding myself in a really strange position for me, since I am on the side of those in the military who are speaking up against the CIC. I never thought I would say that.
    Not only was I raised by a German who made it clear his kids followed his rules, but he was a man who served as a training instructor in WWII and later taught us discipline at home. Yet he himself would have been very, very hesitant to question the CIC of his country.

    • mgm

      “…with all the military and ex-military members stepping up to express their disdain for the CIC…”
      Yes, this is stunning. That these men would step forward with public criticism indicates the lack of respect Obama has earned. And, as was posted earlier by Hokma, the silence coming from the lapdog press should make us all shake in our boots. A democracy can’t survive without a free press.

  • Popsmoke

    Another thing… note the call to Rush…. Let’s not overlook the military screw up of not making the call either… There are many people who have blood on their hands here just not Obama..
    The entire system failed and that is a big story…

    • HObama HObamanana

      The question to be answered is: WHY did the system fail? We certainly had a good system in place to deal with events such as this so it seems to me that one of two things happened. Either the people in positions of responsibility are incompetent OR they were ordered not to fulfill their responsibilities.

      • piattq

        This is part of the big political hangover from Jimmy Carter and the Iran hostage crisis—a failed rescue that resulted in political infamy.

    • TeakWoodKite

      Popsmoke, I will stipulate at the outset that we can consider the screw ups of the entire Federal government as unable to co-ordinate a common sense response that has been on the books for a decade and that those in power, either elected or appointed from across the entire political spectrum as “responsible”.

      That said it’s clear you dislike Romney and Obama even more.

      Obama is the end of the road of the yes or no of it. He is the sole human in the entire food chain that was loathe to act to protect American lives.

      Are you are also of the opinion that coming to the aid of your fellow Americans, inspite of the idiot savant squating at Motel 1600, who put them in harms way, is not the correct course of action because the host country is the one to provide security? And failing at that?
      Even if the correct course of action was to get the last plane out, that plane was declined as well.

      The only reason that State and CIA where having an ownership war is because the there was no leadership, just an empty chair at Motel 1600.
      This president supports jihad. What are we to do about that? Screw the “neocons” and Alinsky heads alike. It is well beyond that. We are talking about a POTUS that is unfit for command in every respect. What are we going to do about it? The two SEALS didn’t take no for answer, and are fucking hero’s to Obama’s ZEROS.
      Mitt Romney maybe alot of things, but made of evil intent as is Barry is not one of them.

      • Popsmoke

        Teak
        Its like this… I am an equal opportunity hangman. I want everyone who was in the know from the start of these insane policies and sat on their hands right up to the consulate attack hung! Romney is excluded from this but realize he also agrees with the policy. However in all fairness was not in the loop at all.
        Moreover if true that the Commanders of the In

        • TeakWoodKite

          I can completely understand your sincere frustration and desire to purge these cowards and fools from the ranks.

          When Romney in the last debate said he agreed with Obama…and Jon Stewart parodied this, it was political Aikido. Nothing more.

          Let me ask you flat out. The LTC said Obama would have know with in 5 minutes 10 max. BO said “no”. Do you think Romney would have said NO?

          As I said. It’s an observable fact that Obama’s actions demonstrate his active support for Jihad against Americans. What are we to do about it???

  • Dave L.

    Tells it all !

  • Changes

    Not only did “O” screw up his 3 am call, his main contender who was warning the country he was incapable, stood right with him, holding his hand on the return of the Ambassador and the fallen former Navy Seals, condemning the actions of some guy over a cheap made video!

    Damn them, damn BOTH of them!

  • Popsmoke

    Once again the “cause” of the attack is beinng totally lost here. While I whole heartly agree both Obama and Clinton shoulder the heavy for this. The blood has to be shared with Republican Leadership for going along with the “cause” for the attack in the first place. This includes CIA…
    Unfortunately none of the entire story with exception of Larry here is getting out.
    Now not only did we loose 4 americans but we lost an entire intelligence operations. There is no good excuse for that either. How did the safe house also get outed?

    • jrterrier

      Pop, I’m not sure I understand what you are saying. For those of us who are not intelligence-experts and haven’t had the time to follow the details, will you please spell out what you mean.

    • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

      FYI, the top story on memeorandum, the liberal counterpart to the conservative HotAir; is the 9NEWS interview in which President Obama refuses to answer the question, ‘Did you reject 3 on-the-ground requests for help during the Benghazi invasion?’

    • HObama HObamanana

      Whether the Gang of Eight was read in on this operation or not is irrelevant. Each President, and his Administration, is directly (and Constitutionally) responsible for the actions he initiates. The Gang of Eight did not order this operation. The Gang of Eight did not decline to provide support to it. That came directly from the office of the President who is the only Constitutionally authorized individual to have ordered it.

      I am in full agreement with you that Republicans as well as Democrats have been playing these silly war games for decades. Starting wars that don’t officially exist and then hiding in plain sight when the house of cards fall around them. Feigning innocence and ignorance when the truth is clear to even complete fucking idiots.

      But we have a standard in this country that has been in place since our inception as a Constitutional Republic, and that is to hold our Commander in Chief responsible for the events that go sideways or right to hell as a result of orders he gives or doesn’t give.

      So we can worry about who else knew and who else approved after we hold the lying bastard actually responsible for these deaths to account; as it always has been and as it should be.

      • stodghie

        barak hussein obama is responsible. the buck stops with him. he wanted the job and he got i now let him sake the shame and responsibility for his failure in office as it should be.

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      Pop,
      Please get your head out of your ass. Republicans did not “out” this as an intel site. That was the New York Times. Please get your facts straight and stop blaming Republicans for something they did not do. It really pisses me off.

      • Popsmoke

        Fact? First I never said the republicans outed the safe house or annex.. So really get your facts straight. What I wanted to know was how the CIA safe house and front was outed TO THE BAD GUYS? Lousy tradecraft? State sponsored spooks as in Iran?
        So Larry then explain how the gang of eight did not know that the consulate was being used as cover to arm and train rebels and jihadis to fight in Syria? That is what pisses me off besides only blaming Obama (which I agree with) that really pisses me off.. You cannot sit in Florida and tell me that Republican Leadership was blindsided by a fucked up policy.
        Or are we just going to burn Obama and Clinton and no one else?

    • TeakWoodKite

      “How did the safe house also get outed?”
      Valierie Jarret told the Iranian delegation in Qatar about it? …just a thought….

      • Popsmoke

        Man if that was even remotely true….she would need to be prosecuted……

        • TeakWoodKite

          She was acting on the direct orders of Obama while in Qatar several months before this went down… I am first one to say I am full of shit on this, but what if I am not?

  • jrterrier

    I always feel saddest at the loss of life of those brave men & women who walk into hell knowing what they are facing. it was like that on 9/11/01. when i heard reports of the firefighters, police & other rescue workers who willingly walked into that hell to try to rescue others, i just felt an overwhelming sadness that they were ready to put their lives on the line. the innocents who died inside were in the wrong place at the wrong time, but those who walk into the valley of death to save others have a special place in my heart.

    that goes for the two brave former seals who left their safe locations & stepped up to save and rescue others & died doing so. rest in peace. http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/father-slain-seal-who-made-decision-not-save-my-son_657782.html

  • KenoshaMarge

    Anyone who isn’t willing to fall in love like a damn teenager knows better than to fall in love with a damn politiiccian. Admiration, respect and support are fine. Even supporting as better than a bad alternative.
    Once however you fall in love with a pol you act like some abused wife and find an excuse for every bad behavior.
    Pols can’t be trusted. NONE of them.
    If we had a decent media in this country that did it’s damn job of investigating every nefarious deed from every pol from any party we would have a more informed electorate.
    There would still remain the willfully blind partisans who refuse to see what they don’t want to see and would rather support their party than their country. Nothing can be done with such people. Excusing their behavior because they are friends or family is no different than an obot making excuses for their hero. Or those who still find excuses for the Clintons.
    People, good people called for help, didn’t get it, and died. How in hell can any American excuse that? How can any American excuse the media that doesn’t report it?
    How do such people sleep at night? Probably sleep better than I do. Because once you decide to support some damn political party or person over your country and the men and women who fight and die for it, you ain’t worth spit!

    • HObama HObamanana

      How in hell can any American excuse that? How can any American excuse the media that doesn’t report it?

      What the fools don’t realize is that if Obama and his horde are willing to let good people like this be abandoned and murdered then they wouldn’t think twice of abandoning their “loyal” supporters to the wolves should it prove politically expedient.

      • KenoshaMarge

        I just thought that Obama and company were typical lying scumbag politicians prettied up by the lying liberal media. That’s disgusting but not unfortunately far from normal. But once they have blood on their hands, not typical, not excusable, not anything but reprehensible scum.

        Just like the scum-sucking media that refuses to cover this story because it shows exactly what a POS their hero really is. What reprehensible scumbags the majority of his administration is.

      • BettsAZ

        Saw Geraldo on Bill O’Reilly…that putz was blaming Mitt Romney for not asking Obama about the lies and cover-up, not the news media!

        • FormerLiberal9

          I don’t know why FOX keeps that has been yellow journalist on the payroll. He was always worthless.

        • vinnie winkel

          omg, I couldn’t believe my ears! Bill did reply, ‘but, Mitt is not a journalist!’ It was so forced and tortured when Geraldo try to defend his guy barack. incredible.

  • getfitnow

    I’m sure the 4 grieving families take great solace in the fact the POTUS was not “personally aware.” WTF is wrong with this fool?

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/obama-not-personally-aware-security-requests-before-libya-attack/

    Recently there have been several callers into Rush’s show that have loved ones in the military. They express real concern now that their relatives may be left behind,

    • HObama HObamanana

      Is he implying that he was impersonally aware?

  • getfitnow

    Check the video.Here’s a reporter asking the right question several times and a POUTS tap dancing around the obvious answer.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/oct/26/picket-video-obama-dodges-question-denial-help-ame/

    • HObama HObamanana

      If there is anything good to be said about this interview it is that Obama admits that HE sent these “folks” into a dangerous situation. This valuable tidbit of information will come in handy a little later on.

      I forget where, and can’t seem to find it at this moment, but I saw something yesterday in which Obama stated that there was no issue that mattered more to him than finding out why these four Americans were murdered. If that really was the case shouldn’t he be suspending his campaign, knocking off the Romnesia comments and maybe asking his worldwide fans for their assistance tracking down the people responsible for imperiling his reelection chances? I mean, how dare they! Maybe he could set up a hotline with the number flashed upon the bottom of the screen every single time he gives a serious speech or shows up for a hard hitting interview.

  • shelldoll2

    Oh and Condi Rice is 100% wrong. She’s incompetent or stupid. Nobody can ignore what the LTC is talking about.

    • HObama HObamanana

      Surely she knows better than to say something like this. Do you have any theories as to why she would offer such a stupid observation?

      • piattq

        Empty chair day: Nov. 4 and before.
        Remember 9-11-12 Benghazi: Vote with your heart.

      • mgm

        Theory: Incompetence loves company? Remember her infamous “no one could imagine flying planes into buildings”?

        • TeakWoodKite

          :0

      • shelldoll2

        Becuz she’s stoopid?

        • TeakWoodKite

          And has given testimony under oath…mmm check that, that she has no imagination either.

        • HObama HObamanana

          Works for me!

  • shelldoll2

    Amen! The LTC is absolutely correct.

    But let’s say Obama and Biden didn’t know.

    News flash aholes! It’s your job to know.

    • KenoshaMarge

      But shelldoll2, how can they keep track of Big Bird and Binders and Bayonets and still “know” what they are supposed to know.

      I am willing to accept that Joe Biden didn’t know because even the Obama Administration isn’t stupid enough to trust Biden’s mouth with something they don’t want the world to know.

      But Obama? He knew. He knew and he went to bed and then went fundraising. Commander in Chief? Not a pimple on the ass of one!

  • Hokma

    I surfed the channels and scanned the newspapers.

    A scandel larger than the events are the complete and total lack or even absence of coverage other than FoxNews.

    Obama can get away with this because most Americans are unaware [ they do not read about it in their local newspaper or see it on their local ABC/NBC/CBS affiliates.

    The founders entrusted the press to be the voice for the people by exposing any government corruption and misdeeds.

    The press has become a propaganda arm of Obama and his cabal. When you have college drop-out Brian Williams of NBC not asking Obama about this then it is clear that Obama can come away unscathed.

    If Obama somehow wins a re-election the best we can hope for is that the GOP does take the Senate so that he can be immediately impeached.

    • KataKimbe

      Most watch puff pieces where Brian Williams is blowing Obama instead. They refuse to watch anything Faux News as they call it.

      • piattq

        Audience share for O’Reilly on at the same time BWilliams was doing his puff ball interview with the prez was bigger than for Williams—Williams dis report that O crowds much smaller than 08

        • KataKimbe

          I know, Bill’O was pointing that out many times yesterday… but that does not matter for those fools only watching NBC networks.

  • Hokma

    Another GREAT analysis.

  • Fred82

    Larry,

    Are any heads going to actually roll over this monumental screw up? Or is this simply going to go under the rug while things are quickly forgotten and business returns to usual?

  • Retired_from_SPOnaj

    Those who have said, “Fuck it” understand this scenario all too well. And to those einherjar who have gone on to Valhalla because of their bravery in battle, drink your fill of mead with Odin as you await to welcome others who will join your ranks.

  • Justine00

    I seldom swear, but I agree with you, LJ. “Damn you Barack Obama. Damn you.”
    .

    • KenoshaMarge

      I often swear and I say “Damn you Barack Obama, Damn you!” I also say it to all the Washington Lice who play politics when good people die. That would of course include the Obama ass-kissing media who refuse to do their job and report, damn it, report!

  • Sally Vaci

    Larry, I think you are right to focus on the men we left behind. And it’s so ironic and heartbreaking to realize that Woods and Doherty died because they would NOT leave any men behind.

  • HELENK2

    how convenient. military ballots headed for Afghanistan burned in plane crash. saw i on tickertape on Fox news

  • HObama HObamanana

    What I’m “hearing” and not liking in the least, is that Ambassador Stevens wasn’t protected because of fucking turf wars and money? I could have sworn we went through this whole turf war dance after 9/11/01 and created another layer of bureaucracy to sort things out and coordinate resources. I could have sworn we lost a substantial measure of our privacy and freedom in the deal too. So it was all for naught? A nice expensive dog and pony show so we could pretend as if the deaths of nearly 3000 Americans actually meant something. And we wouldn’t screw up again????

    Laying this turd directly at the doorstep of Petraeus is appropriate. The only thing missing is placing it in a paper bag, lighting it on fire, ringing his doorbell and hiding in the bushes. How could he not have known? How could he have not objected strenuously if he was being overruled by Obama or Panetta? If he did make the attempt to help “his people” why hasn’t he stood up like a man and spoke the truth to the American people? Has Jarrett clipped his cajones?

    I fault Panetta for this too. He is now and has always been a political hack. He might put on that serious face that he is doing all of this for the security of our nation but in all truth he is a partisan Democrat that could probably even school Obama on the art of lying.

    And finally we come to that piece of shit we call a President, commonly known as Barack Hussein Obama, Asshole Extraordinaire. I have despised this man for a long time now. I knew he would be a disaster as a President and that he would harm our country. But I never imagined that he would be such a callous coward. Even President Bush rose to the occasion when we were attacked on 9/11.

    Obama has made it completely apparent to anyone with a functioning brain that the only thing he really cares about is himself. And I can hardly wait to see him defeated on November 6, 2012. The day we take back our nation from a narcissistic psychopath and his treasonous party of immoral miscreants.

    • Freedom Fighter

      Where are you guys getting this stuff? I haven’t heard anything like it in the news. And Rush Limbaugh is a real credible news source.. LOL. C’mon guys, put the tin foil hats away, conspiracy theories make you guys look silly.

      • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

        I’m not sure where you get off with the conspiracy theories, but, if you want to improve your knowledge of ongoing news, I highly recommend you turn off MSNBC, including your friend Chris Matthews.

        • Freedom Fighter

          Why turn off MSNBC? It’s a good source of news and information. Take a look at this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/26/lawrence-wilkerson-colin-powell-sununu_n_2027721.html

          I know most people here are Democrats, do you really want to join the Republicans?

          • DianaLC

            Many of us here are EX-Democrats because of the Obama crime organization. I bet you haven’t checked out the ratings / the viewership numbers of FOX, whose excellent reporter Jennifer Griffin is doing an excellent job of uncovering most of the facts that Larry is substantiating. I thank God that a Denver television reporter also had the courage to ask your egocentric Toddler in Chief some hard questions, since I live here in the Mile High metropolitian area, and since our only local newspaper which is struggling for subscriptions lost another last week when it wasted far too much ink and column inches trying to rationalize why it endorsed O.
            There are people reporting this and far more people than you know are following this story.
            And who are you to question Larry? What is your knowledge of CIA procedure? It’s a small mind that gets its information only from an echo chamber, as you do.

          • stodghie

            ahhh poor little obot lost in a land of informed people. scary huh??? LOL

          • FormerLiberal9

            Sad you are too far gone to help! Even a intervention won’t work at this point. You are totally eaten up with the stupid.

      • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

        You are not a freedom fighter. You are a fucking asshole. Give me your true name and let’s meet. I’ll square you away.

        • KenoshaMarge

          Can I sell tickets? Although one suspects that FF won’t come out from behind Mommy when confronted.

        • Freedom Fighter

          Can’t you square things away on the interweb? I mean I follow the news quite alot to keep informed, and I haven’t heard anything from CNN, HuffPo, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CBS, PBS, NPR, NYT, WaPo, etc… and all you have is Rush Limbaugh? Come on, provide some more credible news sources.

          • piattq

            Try checking in with the local media in the swing states. They are not brain dead yet.

          • TeakWoodKite

            What a fasinating study in mind control you are.

            • http://twitter.com/solis_star_lit Kavika LoveAll

              Mind control? Are you even an American?

              • TeakWoodKite

                “1966 i/ was born on top of a hill overlooking pearl harbor on an army installation, into the healing arts, music, reading, listening, more art, humourous irony”…
                Is that you Johnny Five? You need some input?

          • FormerLiberal9

            Check CBS they are the only ones brave enough to cover the story other than FOX.

          • stodghie

            you are a pathetic liar as you are a chicken.

          • http://twitter.com/solis_star_lit Kavika LoveAll

            I’m not quick to draw lines in the sand but I agree with you. & btw, I have a firm grasp on reality. Very frustrating to watch how propaganda effects some of our people

      • HObama HObamanana

        If by “news” you mean the babble you hear when your head is up Obama’s ass then I’m not surprised you are deaf. It’s inconvenient that 4 Americans were murdered under Obama’s watch. Damned not optimal bumps in the road.

      • KenoshaMarge

        Your head that far up Obama’s ass makes you look sillier!

        • HObama HObamanana

          I suspect that Obama has a tin foil hat factory inside his ass where his loyal supplicants come for protection when those nasty fact thingies threaten them.

      • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

        Your insistence that the truth about President Obama’s failure in Benghazi is a lie, points to the reason I ignore those who insist, not enough undecided voters remain to sway the election away from the results indicated by the current polling. That is; I trust that even those people who have indicated to the pollsters, they are certain to vote for President Obama, will change their votes, once they know the truth.

        And, given the deluge of facts about Benghazi spilling out now; I have faith that even an Obama agent like you, too, will soon change your mind.

        • HObama HObamanana

          An Obot will not think for itself until it is fashionable and cool to do so.

          • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

            Yes, but, no one knows how one votes when the curtains are closed…

          • TeakWoodKite

            They are incapable of independent tought.

      • DianaLC

        What sort of freedom do you fight for….the freedom to live in the blissful nonreality of the lala land of your mind?

      • Daniele Dubroca

        We are well versed in the agenda to ridicule anyone asking legitimate questions that do not correspond with the Official Story. It’s an old, old tactic, much practiced by the left, and also by the right; and indeed by anyone in power who does not wish their wishes countered. Yesterday’s “conspiracy theory” is today’s news, even mainstream news. Does anyone believe Lee Harvey Oswald did it all by his lonesome? That Vietnam was a just war and American bodies were floating in the Tonkin River? Nixon’s initial version of Watergate? 9/11 was coordinated an Arab hiding in a mountain in Afghanistan?
        The conspiracy theories concocted by the powers that be, of that day, were beyond ANYTHING that could have been dreamt of here. I mean, they must have people working 24/7 in some DC basement, constantly, to think up some of the stuff served up for the public in the mainstream press and tv.
        A defector has already told us what we knew anyway: CNN is a propaganda org for this Aministration, bought and paid for.
        Hang it up. Anyone who has not looked seriously at “conspiracy theories” is someone who does not deserve the name of serious thinker, much less investigative journalist. We may not all agree, or come to the same conclusions, but we know NEVER to believe the WaPo or CNN entirely. And we should never entirely believe any alternative source without further corroboration either.

      • DB1954

        stfu ff.

    • Justine00

      LJ, I wonder what your take on Panetta is these days. At one point, some time ago, I seem to remember you thinking he was okay…
      .

    • elizabethrc

      This particular pissing contest between State and the CIA was supposed to have been resolved some time ago. Unfortunately, they’re pissing other peoples’ blood in their little contest for supremacy.
      I think those folks need a shakeup and concrete consequences.

      • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

        Yes; and, tragically, this ‘pissing’ contest (which is also manifested in a lack of coordinated intel) was again supposed to have been resolved after the fact, as in 9/11 (the original).

        http://www.c-span.org/pdf/911finalreportexecsum.pdf

      • piattq

        Please put the WH in this turf war. I’m not sure what to think of Petraeus’ adamant denial yesterday that not he nor any other CIA person denied the help. Weekly Standard says that denial points directly to the White House. Also O was asked twice yesterday about the refusal of aid and he evaded an answer but ultimately said he had given direct orders to take all measures to protect our people in Benghazi—that should leave a definite paper trail—a presidential order to act which would make Petraeus and Sec. Def. and his two honcho generals all defying a presidential order for action and I think that would be treason.

        • TeakWoodKite

          I do not trust a single word out of Obama’s orifice. I read the CIA release “We did not say no”, it rings hollow because it should have said, “we responded with all available resources”

          The conclusion is that they were told NOT to lift a finger by OBAMA. He is the only one that can say no. Hillary is a shill at this point and not going to do or say anything counter what Obama wants.
          Same for Petraeus and Sec. Def. What happended to take care of biz and ask questions later?

          • DB1954

            I suggest that we ask Panetta since Petraeus has already given his answer, true or false.

        • DB1954

          I think it’s more likely that a Martian will land in Washington tomorrow to offer his assistance in the war on terror than it is that Petraeus committed treason. That leaves Panetta and Obama. Sorry, but its inconceivable that that order was given and ignored.

    • jrterrier

      i haven’t understood that it was a turf war. i thought it was about protecting the myth that the leading-from-behind Lybia liberation was on track to be a model of the Arab spring where everything was going well; where the American Ambassador was not in peril; and where any attack could not possibly be an al-qaeda led/sanctioned attack on 9/11 but was just a demonstration gone awry.

      • HObama HObamanana

        I got that it was a turf war from what Larry stated.

        It is now clear that because this was largely a CIA operation, State Department did not want to spend any of its resources in fortifying a position that existed largely to provide cover for an undercover CIA operation.

        • jrterrier

          oh. got it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/ShermaDeYoungJillson Sherma Leanor Jillson
    • http://twitter.com/solis_star_lit Kavika LoveAll

      OMFG! you’ve got to be kidding! Bush/cheney rose to the occasion? In what way? By attempting to start a major regional war (on the credit card, mind you) axis-of-evil?, ‘patriot’ act, tax cuts during war time that did not create any jobs (also on the credit card & off-budget), i can go on. I hear your point of view but I totally & completely disagree! As far as what actually happened in Benghazi consulate, there is still an ongoing investigation. I will continue withold judgement until all the facts are in.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Thank you. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate the fact that you don’t agree with me. I wouldn’t have it any other way.

      • Dave L.

        Pull you head out of your ignorant ass, look around you at what this administration has done and is doing today. They don’t need an investigation, they know what they did or didn’t do. Four more years of this ignorant, marxist, socialist, moron of a president will destroy the United States.

    • Dave L.

      This bullshit has been going on for decades, when I was a Customs Agent, Customs was always in a fight with the Border Patrol to see who could seize the most drugs annually, the winner got a boost in their annual budget for use in combating drug interdiction. FBI was always feuding with CIA, its the way the system works, sharing intel for the good of the nation , ain’t gonna happpen… Getting a bigger slice of the budget pie is what its all about !!!

      • HObama HObamanana

        I would change the incentives and instead make it the responsibility of each agency to fulfill their obligations. No rewards for doing better than expected. Period.

        • Dave L.

          I handled some of the budget in my job, every Sept. the Govt would hand us hundreds of thousandsm if not millions to spend before the Oct 1st fiscal year began over again. We would have inspectors just standing around, doing nothing at all earning double time. If no one wanted the overtime the managers got pissed. I was told to buy $150.00 flashlights to give out as rewards. When I said why don’t we give some money back to the taxpayers, ( of which I was one, ) I was told that if we did that, our budget would be cut next year. That boys and girls is how your government works.

    • DB1954

      I don’t agree that “laying this turd” at the feet of Petraeus is appropriate, at least, not yet. He denied having given any stand down order. Maybe he was lying, but then again, it’s far from proven that he was. I think the culprit is Panetta, despite my prior admiration for this man and his loyalty and capabilities. We need to know more before we lay any of those turds anywhere.

  • ehuntert

    amen brother

  • retire05

    Jake Tapper tweeted:
    CIA spox: No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate.
    Is Petreaus getting ready to throw the administration under the bus after there were more than vague insinuations that Benghazi was a failure of the CIA?
    Utlimately, the facts remain: the attack was an act of war since it was an attack on a compound considered American soil and the final say in how it was handled was up to the CIC. Larry discusses the Spectre and the fact that Ty Woods had identified the mortar fire with a laser. He didn’t do that to provide light to the assholes shooting at him. He did that to allow air support to identify the source. It has been reported that one of the two drones was armed.
    There is a good conversation about the laser over at Blackfive. You might want to read that.

    • mgm

      Can you tell me what “spox” means? Is it something like talking points or an agreed- upon story?
      Can you tle lme

      • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

        Spokesman.

        • mgm

          Of course. Thank you.

        • nickoury

          You are very kind, Larry.
          All Homer can say is “D’oh”.

          • TeakWoodKite

            :)

        • DB1954

          Larry, I don’t mean to chap your hide here, I just don’t really need to know your opinion of Petraeus’ value as a soldier or as CIA director. So you think that he’s an overrated political “asshole”? So what? That tells me nothing about what he did or didn’t do about this situation in Benghazi. What I need to know is whether Petraeus was telling the truth when he denied having ordered or sending any order for any CIA personnel to “stand down” or to refrain from taking military action to repulse the assault on the consolate or to protect our Ambassador and the rest of the staff. Notwithstanding your opinion of Petraeus, I will continue to believe him because I think it’s far more probable that either Obama or someone else in the White House is responsible for this so-called “stand down” order. Perhaps Petraeus refused to give such an order but Obama or Valerie Jarrett gave it to Panetta or someone else. In fact, it’s Panetta’s story that doesn’t add up with what the White House is saying. If anyone’s lying, it has to be Panetta, which will be a shock to me since I always believed that Panetta gave the order to initiate the kill Bin Laden mission and did so without the President’s express permission. Someone’s lying, and I’m not yet convinced that it’s Petraeus.

    • Hokma

      Jake Tapper may be the only legititmate journalist left who does not work for Fox.

  • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

    The only immediate recourse is to vote Obama out of office on November 6. And if our worst nightmare occurs and he is re-elected, impeach him immediately upon reconvening Congress in January.

    • HObama HObamanana

      Absolutely!

    • KenoshaMarge

      How can you expect his loyal supporters to vote him out when many of them are too damn ignorant to know anything about Benghazi? Anyone with a brain or any decency has all ready decided to vote against him or stay home if they cannot bring themselves to vote for a Republican.

      I agree that the GOP has it’s own issues to answer to and for but this one, this one is all on the rotten Dems. And the worst rot is at the top while the cowardly rest follow along protecting their party instead of their country.

      By the way, is anyone else having a problem posting images with their comments? Because I’ve tried several times this morning and it just won’t work.

      • KenoshaMarge

        Image posting working fine now. Here’s a good one.

      • DianaLC

        Kenosha, I am in a serious state of depression about this incident. I spent some time writing something in response to my uncle (a Mitt supporter) who had copied my lib sister and brother and my other Mitt supporting sister. I explained the whole incident in Benghazi and gave the places they could go to read up on it. I told them that this is a serious concern they should have.
        I got no response from my lib brother and a short sentence from my lib sister saying she doesn’t read “campaign” stuff and besides she had already voted.
        I’m an English major, so I always think in “plot” outlines. What if Obama’s minions do get him elected and we start having youth brigades and a socialist type takeover? Do I give my brother and sister shelter because I am prepared to remain free and to fight?

        • KenoshaMarge

          I cannot tell anyone else how to deal with the obots or rabid partisans in their family or among their friends. I can only speak for myself.
          I have friends and family who are so far in denial or deep in their own ignorance that I simply cannot interact with them anymore. Many have also become as nasty and ugly as so many of the obot trolls who come here to spew are. Why would I want anything to do with them. But that’s just me.
          You have to do what you have to do. Either way, it isn’t going to be pleasant and it isn’t going to be painless.
          I only know that the people they have become would problably stood in the crowds in the 1920′s and screamed “Seig Heil” with the fanatics. Cult members do that kind of thing. Some turned in friends and family to be sent to concentration camps. Germany was supposedly an enlightened and civilized country. I would imagine they didn’t think that “it could happen” there either. But it did.

          • Justine00

            Marge, the US Civil War of the 1860′s broke apart families: Obummer’s doing the same.
            .

            • KenoshaMarge

              The man who was going to bring us all together has instead done his level best to tear us apart. For his own political gain. That the party I once supported for so many years has been part of it, has indeed encouraged it, shames me deeply.

              I cannot, I will not, ever respect a person who turns some damn politician into a “cult” figure.
              If that tears our family apart, so be it. To some of us honesty and integrity still matter. Why would we want to interact with those to whom it doesn’t?

              • HObama HObamanana

                I was watching This Week this morning and the Roundtable included Andrew (Bareback) Sullivan. He said that if Romney won VA and FL it would be a return of The Confederacy. I screamed at my television. I really wanted to reach through it and knock him completely off his chair and onto his fat British ass. Does it ever even occur to these idiots that The Confederacy was created by Democrats?

                • KenoshaMarge

                  Hyperbolic idiots like Sullivan just run their foolish mouths in the belief that the rest of the world is as ignorant as they are. All to often, they’re right.

    • elizabethrc

      You present an even more important reason for us to vote in a Republican majority in both Houses.
      If Romney wins the popular vote, Dems won have a leg to stand on (they’ll still scream partisanship, yada, yada but, as they did with Republicans, we won’t be listening) and impeachment can go forward.
      The people will win and it’s a sound reason the electoral college should be done away with.
      Then all that remains is to take care of the msm and put them out of business. I’d like to see a growth of conservative media programming (or even independent).

  • HARP2

    The way I understand this, is Obama Biden and Pinheadah were having a meeting at the WH.

    All of a sudden they get these reports from Libya about an attack.

    Wouldn`t the first reaction be to call in the whole security team just in case this was just a precursor to larger attacks somewhere else in the world ?

    You sure as Hell don`t just wander off to bed without knowing the fate of your Ambassador.

    • http://www.projectweavers.com/ Matthew J. Weaver

      Or head off the next day to Las Vegas for fundraising and partying.

    • jrterrier

      Let’s not leave out that this was on 9/11. that should have lent some urgency to the issue.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Obama doesn’t care about 9/11. You have to remember that he attended Jeremiah Wright’s church where 9/11 was exhorted to be the chickens coming home to roost. And don’t forget, 9/11 is also what led to that nasty war that was financed on a credit card that Obama always likes to remind people of. Heaven forbid we have to actually go into debt to protect and avenge our country.

        • binky354

          But instead of trying to pay off the credit card debt, he plans to spend the savings (?) from ending the war on rebuilding America.

          • HObama HObamanana

            Very good point.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001348291128 Sharon Pealer

      I’m not so sure about the timing you have. It sounds now like they might have been there meeting because of what was happening in Benghazi.